Re: [MBZ] 126 Lower Ball Joints - BFH

2013-11-15 Thread Jim Cathey
I bought a 4 lb hammer ... the bigger hammer did most of the magic. Ah, the magic of the BFH. Do not neglect the B part, it's important! -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change

Re: [MBZ] 126 Lower Ball Joints - BFH

2013-11-15 Thread Rich Thomas
Ye of little faith! Is this not what I said to do? YES --R (If in doubt, get a bigger hammer) On 11/15/13 3:06 AM, Scott Ritchey wrote: I bought a 4 lb hammer at Lowes today. Later, I had a few spare minutes so I securely clamped the inverted knuckle (ala spindle) in my big vice and ga

Re: [MBZ] 126 Lower Ball Joints - BFH

2013-11-15 Thread WILTON
'Nother ATTABOY! Wilton - Original Message - From: "Scott Ritchey" To: "'Mercedes Discussion List'" Sent: Friday, November 15, 2013 3:06 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 126 Lower Ball Joints - BFH I bought a 4 lb hammer at Lowes today. Later, I had

Re: [MBZ] 126 Lower Ball Joints - BFH

2013-11-15 Thread Jaime Kopchinski
Good job! On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 3:06 AM, Scott Ritchey wrote: > > > > I bought a 4 lb hammer at Lowes today. Later, I had a few spare minutes so > I securely clamped the inverted knuckle (ala spindle) in my big vice and > gave it a few whacks using a big socket as a drift. I wasn't swinging

Re: [MBZ] 126 Lower Ball Joints - BFH

2013-11-15 Thread Scott Ritchey
I bought a 4 lb hammer at Lowes today. Later, I had a few spare minutes so I securely clamped the inverted knuckle (ala spindle) in my big vice and gave it a few whacks using a big socket as a drift. I wasn't swinging very hard but the ball joint started coming out after just a few whacks. I

Re: [MBZ] 126 Lower Ball Joints

2013-11-14 Thread Richard Hattaway
If the $100 tool does the job, I'll be happy. > > -Original Message- > From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Rich > Thomas > Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2013 5:36 PM > To: Mercedes Discussion List > Subject: Re: [MBZ] 126 Lower Ball Joints >

Re: [MBZ] 126 Lower Ball Joints

2013-11-14 Thread Randy Bennell
On Behalf Of Rich Thomas Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2013 5:36 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] 126 Lower Ball Joints Interesting. The Benz tool is like a clamp sort of thing with a screw on to press down on the BJ (I think the fairing around the part that goes in the knuckle --

Re: [MBZ] 126 Lower Ball Joints

2013-11-14 Thread Richard Hattaway
ndred(s) more.  So I decided to get an S&W Shield instead.  If the $100 tool does the job, I'll be happy. -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Rich Thomas Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2013 5:36 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subj

Re: [MBZ] 126 Lower Ball Joints

2013-11-13 Thread Scott Ritchey
27;ll be happy. -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Rich Thomas Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2013 5:36 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] 126 Lower Ball Joints Interesting. The Benz tool is like a clamp sort of thing with a screw on

Re: [MBZ] 126 Lower Ball Joints

2013-11-13 Thread Rich Thomas
t it back together. -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Rich Thomas Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2013 1:41 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] 126 Lower Ball Joints I don't know what tool you are getting, but all the

Re: [MBZ] 126 Lower Ball Joints

2013-11-13 Thread Scott Ritchey
o it isn't going anywhere until I put it back together. > -Original Message- > From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Rich > Thomas > Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2013 1:41 PM > To: Mercedes Discussion List > Subject: Re: [MBZ] 126 Lower B

Re: [MBZ] 126 Lower Ball Joints

2013-11-13 Thread Rich Thomas
ebenz.com] On Behalf Of Larry T Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2013 12:03 PM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] 126 Lower Ball Joints we have a specialist here in the Richmond Va area that specializes in frame and alignment work. They do great work and are realistically priced to boot..

Re: [MBZ] 126 Lower Ball Joints

2013-11-13 Thread Scott Ritchey
[mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Larry T > Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2013 12:03 PM > To: mercedes@okiebenz.com > Subject: Re: [MBZ] 126 Lower Ball Joints > > we have a specialist here in the Richmond Va area that specializes in > frame and alignment work. They do great

Re: [MBZ] 126 Lower Ball Joints

2013-11-13 Thread Larry T
we have a specialist here in the Richmond Va area that specializes in frame and alignment work. They do great work and are realistically priced to boot.. Look for a similar speciality and they as usually very skilled at suspension work... They did a ball joint on our 78 240D for $65 incl par

Re: [MBZ] 126 Lower Ball Joints

2013-11-10 Thread Craig
On Sun, 10 Nov 2013 00:09:48 -0700 G Mann wrote: > This might be helpful. > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5PjkfDp8mLE > > Note the downward force bar PLUS the BFH application This might also be helpful, since it's on a W126 Mercedes: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_6To8ymriN8 Craig ___

Re: [MBZ] 126 Lower Ball Joints

2013-11-10 Thread Gerry Archer
Okay, if Scott has a very heavy duty vice, a breakover handle, a cheater pipe that fits the breakover handle, and a local Autozone, he can try the cheapest way to remove it. Autozone loans the tool free. You pay new price and they refund when you bring it back. Don't know if 126s are similar

Re: [MBZ] 126 Lower Ball Joints

2013-11-10 Thread Peter Frederick
Pickle fork won't do a thing for this application -- he's not trying to get the control arm off, he's trying to get the ball joint itself out of the steering knuckle. On the W126/W123, the ball joint is pressed into the knuckle, not the control arm. The control arm goes inside the knuckle

Re: [MBZ] 126 Lower Ball Joints

2013-11-10 Thread M. Mitchell Marmel
At 5:32 PM -0500 11/9/13, Scott Ritchey wrote: I tried some modest pounding with a 3 lb hammer to remove the old ball joint but so far it appears not to have moved. The main problem (I think) is holding the knuckle still while I try to drive the old BJ out. Does anyone have any advice here? P

Re: [MBZ] 126 Lower Ball Joints

2013-11-10 Thread Mitchell Haley, EA
> On Sat, 9 Nov 2013 23:20:13 -0500 "Scott Ritchey" > wrote: > If you are not going to make a practice of installing ball joints, having > it done by a place that knows what they are doing makes sense. > ...if you can find such a place. I'm reminded of the time I replaced the ball joints, tie rod

Re: [MBZ] 126 Lower Ball Joints

2013-11-10 Thread Jaime Kopchinski
lid=CJ-qvICq2boCFWh > o7AodwkEATA > > No rush on this job so I'm interested in any help. Thanks. Scott > > > -Original Message- > From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Peter > Frederick > Sent: Saturday, November 09, 2013 6:05 PM >

Re: [MBZ] 126 Lower Ball Joints

2013-11-10 Thread Larry T
Some FLAPS will loan tools like the BJ press - often for free if you buy at least some parts from them.they usually get a deposit equal to the cost of the tool in case you want to keep it ;-) around here, Advance Auto and AutoZone both loan tools.. As other mentioned, getting the BJ out wi

Re: [MBZ] 126 Lower Ball Joints

2013-11-09 Thread G Mann
; Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2013 12:40 AM > > To: Mercedes Discussion List > > Subject: Re: [MBZ] 126 Lower Ball Joints > > > > Others have said it already, but a BIG hammer can make a big difference. > 5 > > lb is probably the minimum for suspension work because

Re: [MBZ] 126 Lower Ball Joints

2013-11-09 Thread Gary Hurst
...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Brian > Toscano > Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2013 12:40 AM > To: Mercedes Discussion List > Subject: Re: [MBZ] 126 Lower Ball Joints > > Others have said it already, but a BIG hammer can make a big difference. 5 > lb is probably the minimum fo

Re: [MBZ] 126 Lower Ball Joints

2013-11-09 Thread Scott Ritchey
I guess it's the old adage: Don't force it, get a bigger hammer. -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Brian Toscano Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2013 12:40 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] 126 Lower Ball Join

Re: [MBZ] 126 Lower Ball Joints

2013-11-09 Thread Brian Toscano
t but it just seems tacky. > > -Original Message- > From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com ] On > Behalf Of Craig > Sent: Saturday, November 09, 2013 11:40 PM > To: Mercedes Discussion List > Subject: Re: [MBZ] 126 Lower Ball Joints > > On Sat, 9

Re: [MBZ] 126 Lower Ball Joints

2013-11-09 Thread Scott Ritchey
suppose teeth marks will hurt it but it just seems tacky. -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Craig Sent: Saturday, November 09, 2013 11:40 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] 126 Lower Ball Joints On Sat, 9 Nov 2013 23:20:13

Re: [MBZ] 126 Lower Ball Joints

2013-11-09 Thread Craig
On Sat, 9 Nov 2013 23:20:13 -0500 "Scott Ritchey" wrote: > The ball joint is pressed into the knuckle and that's where I'm stuck. > I have a big vice that has rough jaws that will chew up the knuckle so > I was hesitant to really bite into the knuckle with the vice. But I > guess that's what's r

Re: [MBZ] 126 Lower Ball Joints

2013-11-09 Thread Scott Ritchey
ck Sent: Saturday, November 09, 2013 6:05 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] 126 Lower Ball Joints A big vise and a 6 lb hammer should get them out just fine, but getting a new on in is a huge pain. I bought a cheap ball joint press and it failed on the first attempt. I boug

Re: [MBZ] 126 Lower Ball Joints

2013-11-09 Thread Peter Frederick
The ball joints go in from the top on the steering knuckle on a W126 (or a W123, same design). Takes a substantial hammer to drive them out, and a very narrow and short nosed press tool to push the new ones in. Low quality ball joint press tools will fail it you try to use them, and it is

Re: [MBZ] 126 Lower Ball Joints

2013-11-09 Thread Jim Cathey
I tried some modest pounding with a 3 lb hammer to remove the old ball joint but so far it appears not to have moved. The main problem (I think) is holding the knuckle still while I try to drive the old BJ out. Does anyone have any advice here? If these have tapered posts, the thing that see

Re: [MBZ] 126 Lower Ball Joints

2013-11-09 Thread Peter Frederick
A big vise and a 6 lb hammer should get them out just fine, but getting a new on in is a huge pain. I bought a cheap ball joint press and it failed on the first attempt. I bought a $200 one, and it works well enough that my brother does the job for our local retired independent MB guy. I

Re: [MBZ] 126 Lower Ball Joints

2013-11-09 Thread Rich Thomas
You want to have a Benz shop press in the new ones. Getting the old ones out involves a BFH and the knuckle on a vise or something that can take the pounding. A little PB might help, and the hot wrench, but mostly just the BFH. --R On 11/9/13 5:32 PM, Scott Ritchey wrote: What started out

[MBZ] 126 Lower Ball Joints

2013-11-09 Thread Scott Ritchey
What started out as a brake job has grown to include replacing the lower ball joints as well (torn boots). I'm doing one side at a time and I've removed the knuckle from the left side so far. I tried some modest pounding with a 3 lb hammer to remove the old ball joint but so far it appears n

Re: [MBZ] 126 lower ball joints

2010-04-13 Thread Dieselhead
scussion List Cc: "mercedes@okiebenz.com" Subject: Re: [MBZ] 126 lower ball joints Yeah, from what I remember, you cannot get a straight shot at the lower BJ with the rotor in place... Don't forget to check the BJ/bushing that lives in the big aluminum brackets at the back of the wh

Re: [MBZ] 126 lower ball joints

2010-04-13 Thread Peter Frederick
I'll get some in a day or two -- gonna be nuts here for the next couple days. Peter -Original Message- >From: Dieselhead <126die...@gmail.com> >Sent: Apr 13, 2010 9:38 AM >To: Mercedes Discussion List >Subject: Re: [MBZ] 126 lower ball joints > >Peter, &

Re: [MBZ] 126 lower ball joints

2010-04-13 Thread Dieselhead
c: "mercedes@okiebenz.com" Subject: Re: [MBZ] 126 lower ball joints Yeah, from what I remember, you cannot get a straight shot at the lower BJ with the rotor in place... Don't forget to check the BJ/bushing that lives in the big aluminum brackets at the back of the wheelhouses... Min

Re: [MBZ] 126 lower ball joints

2010-04-13 Thread Jim Cathey
The [HF] "C" is much too soft, and bends if not stiffened. I bent mine while using it. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change deliv

Re: [MBZ] 126 lower ball joints

2010-04-13 Thread Craig McCluskey
On Tue, 13 Apr 2010 00:33:08 -0500 Dieselhead <126die...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Anyone know of where I could rent this proper MB tool? Rusty? Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.o

Re: [MBZ] 126 lower ball joints

2010-04-13 Thread Peter Frederick
edes@okiebenz.com" >Subject: Re: [MBZ] 126 lower ball joints > >Yeah, from what I remember, you cannot get a straight shot at the >lower BJ with the rotor in place... >Don't forget to check the BJ/bushing that lives in the big aluminum >brackets at the back of the

Re: [MBZ] 126 lower ball joints

2010-04-13 Thread John Reames
Yeah, from what I remember, you cannot get a straight shot at the lower BJ with the rotor in place... Don't forget to check the BJ/bushing that lives in the big aluminum brackets at the back of the wheelhouses... Mine were good and tight... Split boots and rusted solid. Those are a PITA to g

Re: [MBZ] 126 lower ball joints

2010-04-12 Thread Dieselhead
all joint stuck "most of the way in" and cocked is asking for trouble. Peter -Original Message- From: Dieselhead <126die...@gmail.com> Sent: Apr 12, 2010 11:07 PM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] 126 lower ball joints Now I get to figure out what I need to chan

Re: [MBZ] 126 lower ball joints

2010-04-12 Thread Peter Frederick
sking for trouble. Peter -Original Message- >From: Dieselhead <126die...@gmail.com> >Sent: Apr 12, 2010 11:07 PM >To: mercedes@okiebenz.com >Subject: [MBZ] 126 lower ball joints > >Now I get to figure out what I need to change the lower ball joints >on the SDL ne

[MBZ] 126 lower ball joints

2010-04-12 Thread Dieselhead
Now I get to figure out what I need to change the lower ball joints on the SDL next.I printed out the jobs from the CD. Anyone got any pointers about the 126 Job? Do you have to take the hub off the spindle as the cd shows? Fortunately, this is a southern rust-free car too, so there shou