Re: [MBZ] 190D brakes ARRGH!

2013-06-16 Thread Brian Toscano
...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] 190D brakes ARRGH! Message-ID: cantulyjj7ac+wrkn2vv2nvsk2bkis-e3f7qxpv9ggda0j5y...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Curt, I'll bet that you still have air in the line

Re: [MBZ] 190D brakes ARRGH!

2013-06-16 Thread Curt Raymond
: [MBZ] 190D brakes ARRGH! Message-ID: CACnCPhkWFs0jjxBk0rpLJC=39leggxele+_o71rrru5kssm...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 If you don't want to bother with pressure bleeding, drip bleeding will probably be fine. On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 9:32 PM, G Mann g2ma

Re: [MBZ] 190D brakes ARRGH!

2013-06-16 Thread Mitch Haley
Curt Raymond wrote: Having used one, the next time I need to do brakes I'll either borrow Fred's again or buy my own bleeder, its not worth mucking about with any other method, you open the bleed line, the air comes out followed by fluid, you let as much fluid as you want to purge come out

Re: [MBZ] 190D brakes ARRGH!

2013-06-16 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On Sun, Jun 16, 2013 at 5:07 PM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: I bought a liter of the stuff ten years ago and still haven't opened it. M ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives

Re: [MBZ] 190D brakes ARRGH!

2013-06-16 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On Sun, Jun 16, 2013 at 5:35 PM, Alex Chamberlain apchamberl...@gmail.comwrote: On Sun, Jun 16, 2013 at 5:07 PM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: I bought a liter of the stuff ten years ago and still haven't opened it. Me too. (Well, more like five years ago.) Is it still good?

Re: [MBZ] 190D brakes ARRGH!

2013-06-16 Thread Mitch Haley
Alex Chamberlain wrote: Me too. (Well, more like five years ago.) Is it still good? Mine came in a steel can. I assume it's good until the can springs a leak. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search

[MBZ] 190D brakes ARRGH!

2013-06-12 Thread Curt Raymond
Used Grant's method to bleed the rear brakes on my '84 190D today. I wish I could say it worked perfectly but it didn't. I *think* yesterday's efforts to tag-team the bleeding (with Angie's help) may have cost me in the long run. Right now if I pump the brakes they'll build pressure and work

Re: [MBZ] 190D brakes ARRGH!

2013-06-12 Thread G Mann
Curt, I'll bet that you still have air in the line. Did you start the reverse bleed at the longest line, then the next longest, etc? Air acts as a spring since it can be compressed. If there is a section of the brake line what has fluid before the bubble and after the bubble [like from the

Re: [MBZ] 190D brakes ARRGH!

2013-06-12 Thread Dieselhead
No. sounds exactly like air in the line. try bleeding again. Frustrating, and expensive, especially with silicon fluid. Used Grant's method to bleed the rear brakes on my '84 190D today. I wish I could say it worked perfectly but it didn't. I *think* yesterday's efforts to tag-team the

Re: [MBZ] 190D brakes ARRGH!

2013-06-12 Thread Frederick Moir
:56 AM Subject: [MBZ] 190D brakes ARRGH! Used Grant's method to bleed the rear brakes on my '84 190D today. I wish I could say it worked perfectly but it didn't. I *think* yesterday's efforts to tag-team the bleeding (with Angie's help) may have cost me in the long run. Right now if I pump

Re: [MBZ] 190D brakes ARRGH!

2013-06-12 Thread Mitch Haley
G Mann wrote: Curt, I'll bet that you still have air in the line. Did you start the reverse bleed at the longest line, then the next longest, etc? The Olds drove me nuts for a week. First I did the farthest wheel (the one I had to replace a line on) until I quit seeing bubbles, then I did

Re: [MBZ] 190D brakes ARRGH!

2013-06-12 Thread Fmiser
Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: Right now if I pump the brakes they'll build pressure and work fine until I release and try again at which point they're back to bottom of the throw. The fronts still work fine but the pedal is bottom of the barrel. I *think* this means the MC

Re: [MBZ] 190D brakes ARRGH!

2013-06-12 Thread Chris James
When I ordered new rubber brake lines for the 260E I had, I bought a $10 Brake Bleeding Kit as well http://www.autohausaz.com/search/product.aspx?sid=xz2z3q55xchaxxbgw1xftfropartnumber=19200LISLE First time for me, but had no issues (thankfully) bleeding/flushing the lines with new syn DOT 3/4

Re: [MBZ] 190D brakes ARRGH!

2013-06-12 Thread Curt Raymond
: Re: [MBZ] 190D brakes ARRGH! Message-ID: cantulyjj7ac+wrkn2vv2nvsk2bkis-e3f7qxpv9ggda0j5y...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Curt, I'll bet that you still have air in the line. Did you start the reverse bleed at the longest line, then the next longest, etc? Air

Re: [MBZ] 190D brakes ARRGH!

2013-06-12 Thread G Mann
some more fluid and try again. This time I'll buy a quart. -Curt Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2013 09:23:42 -0700 From: G Mann g2ma...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] 190D brakes ARRGH! Message-ID: cantulyjj7ac+wrkn2vv2nvsk2bkis-e3f7qxpv9ggda0j5y

Re: [MBZ] 190D brakes and bedding

2012-09-12 Thread Hendrik Fay
No mention was made of bedding the brakes in? Recently put some ATE ceramics pads on the rear with new rotors, instructions for bedding in brakes where very specific and lenghty, typical German style. Hendrik who took the car for a trash around the block to get some heat in the brakes On

Re: [MBZ] 190D brakes

2012-09-11 Thread Curt Raymond
there in the spring. -Curt Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2012 19:33:27 -0500 From: Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] 190D brakes Message-ID: a062408bdcc74369ffa7a@[192.168.0.2] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii ; format=flowed Max Dillon wrote

Re: [MBZ] 190D brakes

2012-09-11 Thread Dan Penoff
saw Ira Glass there in the spring. -Curt Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2012 19:33:27 -0500 From: Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] 190D brakes Message-ID: a062408bdcc74369ffa7a@[192.168.0.2] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us

Re: [MBZ] 190D brakes

2012-09-11 Thread Randy Bennell
On 10/09/2012 7:25 PM, Dieselhead wrote: Y'all need a better impact wrench. Randy Glad to see that y'all Southern Canadians speak correspondingly with Southerners in the US of A! Just trying to make sure y'all understand. Randy who was exposed to that sort of language by some folks

Re: [MBZ] 190D brakes

2012-09-11 Thread Randy Bennell
? Wilton - Original Message - From: Gerry Archer arche...@embarqmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, September 10, 2012 6:57 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 190D brakes Snoring is bad for marriages but good for the twin bed industry. Of course, serious

Re: [MBZ] 190D brakes

2012-09-11 Thread Curt Raymond
@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] 190D brakes Message-ID: e65f6cb4-a125-4603-a825-666520ff0...@penoff.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I'm jealous. Tried to get our local art house theater to book the Mike Birbiglia film that he and Ira did. No luck so far. I got to meet the cast of Wait, Wait

Re: [MBZ] 190D brakes

2012-09-11 Thread WILTON
I've been trying to train 'im. 'Coming along very nicely, eh?. Wilton - Original Message - From: Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2012 12:05 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 190D brakes On 10/09/2012 7:25 PM

Re: [MBZ] 190D brakes

2012-09-11 Thread WILTON
, 2012 12:18 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 190D brakes I have a vague recollection of a story similar to that where the non-snorer woke the other fellow and made some suggestive comment about being gay. Solved the problem because the snorer was then afraid to go back to sleep. Randy On 10/09/2012 7

[MBZ] 190D brakes

2012-09-10 Thread Curt Raymond
My wife reported that the brakes in the 190D made a noise and then got quiet and it scared her. Apparently her definition of quiet and mine aren't the same because when I tried it the right front wheel made an ungodly racket. It'd had a hardened spot on the rotor for some time so I'd already

Re: [MBZ] 190D brakes

2012-09-10 Thread WILTON
Yep, those of us with SWMBO's are still in training - 59 1/2 years for me. Wilton - Original Message - From: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com To: Diesel List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, September 10, 2012 3:15 PM Subject: [MBZ] 190D brakes My wife reported that the brakes

Re: [MBZ] 190D brakes

2012-09-10 Thread Max Dillon
Very nice. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300 '87 300TD Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: My wife reported that the brakes in the 190D made a noise and then got quiet and it scared her. Apparently her definition of quiet and mine aren't the same because when I tried it the right front

Re: [MBZ] 190D brakes

2012-09-10 Thread Dieselhead
Good for you! It is nice when a job goes as planned, even with the heat wrench that was added to the original plan. I will leave the Attaboy for Wilton, as it is his name brand. My wife reported that the brakes in the 190D made a noise and then got quiet and it scared her. Apparently her

Re: [MBZ] 190D brakes

2012-09-10 Thread Curt Raymond
We'll hit 11 at the end of this month. -Curt Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2012 15:24:59 -0400 From: WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] 190D brakes Message-ID: 7423B264383D4996A4A0B84C0DC1E572@wiltonPC Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed

Re: [MBZ] 190D brakes

2012-09-10 Thread WILTON
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, September 10, 2012 4:07 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 190D brakes Good for you! It is nice when a job goes as planned, even with the heat wrench that was added to the original plan. I will leave the Attaboy for Wilton, as it is his name

Re: [MBZ] 190D brakes

2012-09-10 Thread Michael Canfield
15:24:59 -0400 From: WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] 190D brakes Message-ID: 7423B264383D4996A4A0B84C0DC1E572@wiltonPC Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=original Yep, those of us

Re: [MBZ] 190D brakes

2012-09-10 Thread Mitch Haley
OK, what's Alpha Sierra, and why would somebody name their company that? http://www.alphasierragroup.com/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or

Re: [MBZ] 190D brakes

2012-09-10 Thread Michael Canfield
Sent: Monday, September 10, 2012 4:07 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 190D brakes Good for you! It is nice when a job goes as planned, even with the heat wrench that was added to the original plan. I will leave the Attaboy for Wilton, as it is his name brand. My wife reported that the brakes

Re: [MBZ] 190D brakes

2012-09-10 Thread Max Dillon
THAT is funny, a businesses that will get no offers from anyone with military experience. Alpha sierra is aw s##t, usually followed by many and more colorful expressions. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300 '87 300TD Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: OK, what's Alpha Sierra, and why would

Re: [MBZ] 190D brakes

2012-09-10 Thread Greg Fiorentino
, September 10, 2012 12:16 PM To: Diesel List Subject: [MBZ] 190D brakes My wife reported that the brakes in the 190D made a noise and then got quiet and it scared her. Apparently her definition of quiet and mine aren't the same because when I tried it the right front wheel made an ungodly racket

Re: [MBZ] 190D brakes

2012-09-10 Thread Randy Bennell
On 10/09/2012 4:26 PM, Greg Fiorentino wrote: On the other side one of the big bolts that holds the caliper on would NOT come off. I resorted to the heat wrench On my 123s and 126s I've had to resort to a jack under the end of the wrench, using the weight of the car to apply force. That has

Re: [MBZ] 190D brakes

2012-09-10 Thread Randy Bennell
Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] 190D brakes Message-ID: 7423B264383D4996A4A0B84C0DC1E572@wiltonPC Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=original Yep, those of us with SWMBO's are still in training - 59 1/2 years for me. Wilton

Re: [MBZ] 190D brakes

2012-09-10 Thread WILTON
Alpha Sierra - Ah S*** Evidently, they've never been around Air Force aircrewmen. ;) Wilton - Original Message - From: Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, September 10, 2012 4:45 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 190D brakes OK

Re: [MBZ] 190D brakes

2012-09-10 Thread WILTON
Yep, that's about it. Wilton - Original Message - From: Michael Canfield slozuk...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, September 10, 2012 4:51 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 190D brakes Well, if this is going where I think then one Alpha Sierra

Re: [MBZ] 190D brakes

2012-09-10 Thread Gerry Archer
mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] 190D brakes Message-ID: 7423B264383D4996A4A0B84C0DC1E572@wiltonPC Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=original Yep, those of us with SWMBO's are still in training - 59 1/2 years for me. Wilton

Re: [MBZ] 190D brakes

2012-09-10 Thread Curt Raymond
] 190D brakes Message-ID: 023701cd8f9a$ed142b70$c73c8250$@net Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii On the other side one of the big bolts that holds the caliper on would NOT come off. I resorted to the heat wrench On my 123s and 126s I've had to resort to a jack under the end of the wrench

Re: [MBZ] 190D brakes

2012-09-10 Thread WILTON
'Musta whipped right through it without even noticing. I've never strayed. Wilton - Original Message - From: Gerry Archer arche...@embarqmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, September 10, 2012 5:36 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 190D brakes Whatever

Re: [MBZ] 190D brakes

2012-09-10 Thread Curt Raymond
the compressor would always be warm enough to use. SWMBO isn't really enamored if the idea. -Curt Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2012 16:24:00 -0500 From: Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] 190D brakes Message-ID: 504e5a70.1060...@bennell.ca

Re: [MBZ] 190D brakes

2012-09-10 Thread Curt Raymond
mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] 190D brakes Message-ID: 29C9147D5590419BB1A8469FAB4EDD06@PC466116028214 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=original Whatever happened to the seven year itch? It was widely accepted that wives/husbands tended to stray

Re: [MBZ] 190D brakes

2012-09-10 Thread Michael Canfield
isn't really enamored if the idea. -Curt Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2012 16:24:00 -0500 From: Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] 190D brakes Message-ID: 504e5a70.1060...@bennell.ca Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format

Re: [MBZ] 190D brakes

2012-09-10 Thread Rusty Cullens
-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Randy Bennell Sent: Monday, September 10, 2012 5:26 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] 190D brakes With the exception of Wilton, you are all amateurs so far. Barbara and I have been married 39 years so far

Re: [MBZ] 190D brakes

2012-09-10 Thread Randy Bennell
On 10/09/2012 4:50 PM, Rusty Cullens wrote: I had 36 years this past weekend but I suffer like you Randy, not sure how much longer I can take the elbows to my back for snoring. Rusty Cullens The thing that I really find truly amazing is that I don't hear it. I have sort of woken up and

Re: [MBZ] 190D brakes

2012-09-10 Thread Russ Williams
of this month. -Curt Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2012 15:24:59 -0400 From: WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] 190D brakes Message-ID: 7423B264383D4996A4A0B84C0DC1E572@wiltonPC Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply

Re: [MBZ] 190D brakes

2012-09-10 Thread Fmiser
WILTON wrote: BTW, how many ATTABOYs does it take to clear away one Alpha Sierra; infinite. conversely, how many Alpha Sierras does itL take to wipe out 10,000 ATTABOYs? one. -- Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to

Re: [MBZ] 190D brakes

2012-09-10 Thread Fmiser
Max Dillon wrote: Alpha sierra is aw s##t, usually followed by many and more colorful expressions. Or for Red Dwarf fans, Aw smeg! -- Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives

Re: [MBZ] 190D brakes

2012-09-10 Thread WILTON
Yep. Wilton - Original Message - From: Fmiser fmi...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, September 10, 2012 6:29 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 190D brakes WILTON wrote: BTW, how many ATTABOYs does it take to clear away one Alpha Sierra; infinite

Re: [MBZ] 190D brakes

2012-09-10 Thread Curt Raymond
Yeah I've got a little air ratchet I've been through that with. Not fun... -Curt Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2012 17:48:15 -0400 From: Michael Canfield slozuk...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] 190D brakes Message-ID

Re: [MBZ] 190D brakes

2012-09-10 Thread Gerry Archer
Snoring is bad for marriages but good for the twin bed industry. Of course, serious snorers sometimes have to move into the guest room. Once shared a hotel room with a friend. Never before or since have I heard anything like his snoring. Since sleep was no option, even after blocking it

Re: [MBZ] 190D brakes

2012-09-10 Thread Gerry Archer
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] 190D brakes Message-ID: 7423B264383D4996A4A0B84C0DC1E572@wiltonPC Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=original Yep, those of us with SWMBO's are still in training - 59 1/2 years for me

Re: [MBZ] 190D brakes

2012-09-10 Thread OK Don
On Sep 10, 2012 4:32 PM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: We'll hit 11 at the end of this month. -Curt Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2012 15:24:59 -0400 From: WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] 190D brakes Message-ID

Re: [MBZ] 190D brakes

2012-09-10 Thread Mountain Man
OK Don wrote: Yup, we're still beginners at 37 years - I still learn something about her every week, if not every day :-) And... that is why you will make it to 60 years, I posit. Like you, I find this woman interesting from day to day, for 38 years. mao ___

Re: [MBZ] 190D brakes

2012-09-10 Thread Max Dillon
...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Randy Bennell Sent: Monday, September 10, 2012 5:26 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] 190D brakes With the exception of Wilton, you are all amateurs so far. Barbara and I have been married 39 years so far. Not sure how much longer though as she

Re: [MBZ] 190D brakes

2012-09-10 Thread Max Dillon
Once on a church trip, four guys to a room, last guy to arrive hands out ear plugs all around; we needed 'em. I slept ok using the plugs, wouldn't have slept a wink otherwise. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300 '87 300TD Gerry Archer arche...@embarqmail.com wrote: Snoring is bad for

Re: [MBZ] 190D brakes

2012-09-10 Thread Frederick Moir
Subject: Re: [MBZ] 190D brakes Separate bedrooms would be far cheaper than divorce.  When the snoring gets too bad at our household, I move to the guest room.  Coming up on 14 years of marriage. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300 '87 300TD Rusty Cullens buymbpa...@gmail.com wrote: I had 36

Re: [MBZ] 190D brakes

2012-09-10 Thread Dieselhead
Y'all need a better impact wrench. Randy Glad to see that y'all Southern Canadians speak correspondingly with Southerners in the US of A! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives

Re: [MBZ] 190D brakes

2012-09-10 Thread Dieselhead
Max Dillon wrote: Alpha sierra is aw s##t, usually followed by many and more colorful expressions. Or for Red Dwarf fans, Aw smeg! -- Philip Not much left on PBS here. they took off Red Dwarf, they took off Dr. Who, now they took off Red Green. That is heresy... Only Sat night

Re: [MBZ] 190D brakes

2012-09-10 Thread WILTON
snore? I don't snore, do I? Wilton - Original Message - From: Gerry Archer arche...@embarqmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, September 10, 2012 6:57 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 190D brakes Snoring is bad for marriages but good for the twin bed

Re: [MBZ] 190D brakes NOT Snoring

2012-09-10 Thread Rich Thomas
One summer I worked in Virginia, found a room in a house with one guy who owned it, and one other room was vacant at the time. The owner, a fairly young guy, was a realtor. He was out evenings until whenever, then his brother and various other people would come over to the house to have a