Not all CDs had leather but most did.
On Mon, Feb 6, 2023 at 10:52 AM Allan Streib via Mercedes <
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> Yeah I guess the trashed seats do look more like leather. Maybe the ones
> in the parts car are TEX, they look pretty good actually just need some
> cleaning.
>
> On
Yeah I guess the trashed seats do look more like leather. Maybe the ones in the
parts car are TEX, they look pretty good actually just need some cleaning.
On Mon, Feb 6, 2023, at 10:36, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes wrote:
> I think the coupés were leather seats but maybe not all
>
> --FT
>
I don't think Dwight's coupe has leather. I could be wrong though...
-Curt
On Monday, February 6, 2023 at 10:37:15 AM EST, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes
wrote:
I think the coupés were leather seats but maybe not all
--FT
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> On Feb 6, 2023, at 10:33 AM, Allan Streib via
I think the coupés were leather seats but maybe not all
--FT
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> On Feb 6, 2023, at 10:33 AM, Allan Streib via Mercedes
> wrote:
>
> Runner and parts car. What the heck happened to the seats in the white car?
> MBTEX ususally holds up better than that.
>
>
Runner and parts car. What the heck happened to the seats in the white car?
MBTEX ususally holds up better than that.
https://chicago.craigslist.org/sox/cto/d/joliet-1985-mercedes-300cd-coupe-cars/7586413947.html
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Worst possible color combination IMO and the mileage is also a deterrent.
On Thu, Dec 29, 2022 at 9:08 PM Dwight Giles via Mercedes <
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> I bet that is close to market after watching these & my insurance
> experience with my 82 300CD.
> Low production numbers & US
I bet that is close to market after watching these & my insurance
experience with my 82 300CD.
Low production numbers & US market only
On Thu, Dec 29, 2022, 7:05 PM Allan Streib via Mercedes <
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> Not bad looking, but high-ish miles. Are these worth that much? Or is
>
I say $10k too high, but maybe I’m wrong.
If this is reasonable, Kaleb better get busy AF on his coupes.
AZBob
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> On Dec 29, 2022, at 5:05 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes
> wrote:
>
> Not bad looking, but high-ish miles. Are these worth that much? Or is there
> an extra
Not bad looking, but high-ish miles. Are these worth that much? Or is there an
extra 1 in the price?
https://cookeville.craigslist.org/cto/d/cookeville-1985-mercedes-300cd-diesel/7573063388.html
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Like a body, engine, interior, etc.
On Thu, Dec 30, 2021 at 1:32 PM Allan Streib via Mercedes <
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> Ratty, "could use floor pans and some other little things"
>
>
> https://lexington.craigslist.org/cto/d/versailles-1985-mercedes-benz-300d-2dr/7426404120.html
>
>
Ratty, "could use floor pans and some other little things"
https://lexington.craigslist.org/cto/d/versailles-1985-mercedes-benz-300d-2dr/7426404120.html
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With bidding to match. 49 state edition.
Pretty car, aka garage queen.
https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1985-mercedes-benz-300cd-turbo-15-2
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Yes, I now remember. This may be why Rich has become
uncharacteristically reticent.
On Wed, Aug 15, 2012 at 9:21 PM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote:
Cat poop dermaders and pepper jelly
OMG, what did I promise as an incentive?
On Wed, Aug 15, 2012 at 2:54 PM, WILTON
Well I have been getting maters from the farm across the road, and made
some awesome hot sauce on Sunday with my peppers I grew in pots (just
plant-based compost, no poo) and some peaches. I am guessing that
pepper jelly grew in el merde del gato too...
But if I am up there anytime again I
When I was a kid, my Uncle Henry lived with us after Aunt Ollie died. He
started tomatoes from seed in a pan full of dirt that he kept on the back
porch and then transplanted them outside. One day at dinner my mother was
going on about how good Henrys tomatoes were until my father, who was a
I guarantee that all my urban farm produce is 100% free from human byproducts.
On Thu, Aug 16, 2012 at 1:12 PM, Gerry Archer arche...@embarqmail.com wrote:
When I was a kid, my Uncle Henry lived with us after Aunt Ollie died. He
started tomatoes from seed in a pan full of dirt that he kept on
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I guarantee that all my urban farm produce is 100% free from human byproducts.
On Thu, Aug 16, 2012 at 1:12 PM
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I guarantee that all my urban
in the compost pile along with much of our paper
waste. If we had more food waste I could use more of the paper waste.
-Curt
Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2012 16:40:48 -0400
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1985 300CD Klima
: [MBZ] 1985 300CD Klima relay - where is it?
But he's using R134. Is ES-12a compatible with that?
Wilton
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1985 300CD Klima relay - where is it?
But he's using R134. Is ES-12a compatible with that?
Wilton
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that the R134 has created. If you had R-12 in there
you are supposed to change to R134 first and of course we will all do that.
Manfred
Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2012 21:46:58 -0400
From: WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1985 300CD Klima relay - where is it?
But he's using R134. Is ES-12a
ATTABOY!
Wilton
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Now that the dust has settled, the AC/hot air issue
Yep, 'believe it was. ATTABOY to you, too!
Wilton
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Rich
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Rich wins the internet for the second time today!!! W W! Was it
not Rich who first asked, Are you sure you have enough refrigerant?
--R
On 8/15/12 1:11 PM, andrew strasfogel wrote
Cat poop dermaders and pepper jelly
OMG, what did I promise as an incentive?
On Wed, Aug 15, 2012 at 2:54 PM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote:
Yep, 'believe it was. ATTABOY to you, too!
Wilton
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Curt Raymond wrote:
You could wire a light to the monovalve and watch for it's
activity
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electronic unit for temp control. Don't know if that is the Klima
relay or not but when it happened to me the AC compressor also
ran just like
board on my daughter's car. I did mine
about 3 years ago because I was getting erratic behavior on the
vents and fan speeds which worked fine after that.
Manfred
Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2012 06:42:29 -0700 (PDT)
From: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1985 300CD Klima relay - where is it?
Great suggestions but I like Fuse 14 the most. What else is on that
circuit?
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1985 300CD Klima relay - where is it?
Easy enough to test but it wouldn't make it cycle between hot and cold I
don't think.
Or is it that its cold air until the engine warms up and it becomes hot air
, 14 Aug 2012 17:42:49 -0400
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1985 300CD Klima relay - where is it?
Thanks again. We also needed 2 lbs. of R134.
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But he's using R134. Is ES-12a compatible with that?
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Glad to be able
From: wilt...@nc.rr.com
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Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2012 21:46:58 -0400
Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1985 300CD Klima relay - where is it?
But he's using R134. Is ES-12a compatible with that?
Nope. Need to remove it first.
Rick
'Zackly.
Wilton
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Yeah, it was cooling just fine. She was driving along the road when
the vents started blowing hot air. The compressor is clicking on and
off while this is happening so I am thinking an electrical glitch.
On Sun, Aug 12, 2012 at 11:14 PM, Rich Thomas
richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote:
What do the gauges read when it is running?
Yeah, it was cooling just fine. She was driving along the road when
the vents started blowing hot air. The compressor is clicking on and
off while this is happening so I am thinking an electrical glitch.
On Sun, Aug 12, 2012 at 11:14 PM, Rich
Check the low pressure switch, not sure where it is on your car but on
my old wagon it is lower left (looking from the front) in front of the
engine/wheel/next to radiator, sort of. That switch (among others too I
guess) controls the clutch on the compressor. Might be a lose (loose)
Sounds almost as good as pepper jelly made from peppers grown on an
urban outpost on the northwestern frontier of Washington, DC.
On Mon, Aug 13, 2012 at 11:01 AM, Rich Thomas
richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote:
Check the low pressure switch, not sure where it is on your car but on my
Rich Thomas wrote:
Check the low pressure switch, not sure where it is on your
car but on my old wagon it is lower left (looking from the
front) in front of the engine/wheel/next to radiator, sort
of. That switch (among others too I guess) controls the
clutch on the compressor.
Not on an
BTW, Andrew, what are you growing in the front yard? 'Looks good.
Wilton
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the full hot flow of the
water. Happened to me just a few weeks ago.
Manfred
Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2012 10:37:16 -0400
From: andrew strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com
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Yeah, it was cooling just fine. She was driving along the road
when
: [MBZ] 1985 300CD Klima relay - where is it?
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Yeah, it was cooling just fine. She was driving along the road when
the vents started blowing hot air. The compressor
I may be wrong here, but doesn't the klima relay only control the function
of the AC compressor? That is, it has nothing to do with the control of
the heater valve, fan speed, etc. The push button unit does this.
Your problem is that is going between heating and cooling erratically,
right?
hmm, would a bad switch cause the klima to cause the compressor to cycle?
--R
On 8/13/12 2:17 PM, Fmiser wrote:
Rich Thomas wrote:
Check the low pressure switch, not sure where it is on your
car but on my old wagon it is lower left (looking from the
front) in front of the engine/wheel/next to
Curt Raymond wrote:
You could wire a light to the monovalve and watch for it's
activity. Power out I think means monovalve open which means
heat on.
Even if I've got the state backwards (light on versus out) if
the monovalve is always powered to a constant state while
having alternating
Jaime Kopchinski wrote:
I may be wrong here, but doesn't the klima relay only control
the function of the AC compressor? That is, it has nothing to
do with the control of the heater valve, fan speed, etc. The
push button unit does this.
Ah. Good point.
The _speed_ and _temperature_ of
Great suggestions but I like Fuse 14 the most. What else is on that circuit?
On Mon, Aug 13, 2012 at 3:42 PM, Fmiser fmi...@gmail.com wrote:
Curt Raymond wrote:
You could wire a light to the monovalve and watch for it's
activity. Power out I think means monovalve open which means
heat on.
Has the pushbutton unit been resoldered or is that not a problem on the
'85s?
The mechanical pushbutton switches malfunctioned on my '83 and caused the
unit to burn up.
The used unit I bought had to be resoldered, so while it was apart I
squirted some Deoxit on the switch contacts and
like it should again. Hope it's the same with
yours.
Manfred
Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2012 15:50:10 -0400
From: andrew strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1985 300CD Klima relay - where is it?
Great suggestions but I like Fuse 14
like it should again. Hope it's the same with yours.
Manfred
Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2012 15:50:10 -0400
From: andrew strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1985 300CD Klima relay - where is it?
Great suggestions but I like Fuse 14
Congratulations! 'Hope it holds.
Wilton
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Sent: Monday, August 13, 2012 10:48 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1985 300CD Klima relay - where is it?
Who said it was the #14
On Mon, 13 Aug 2012 22:48:43 -0400 andrew strasfogel
astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote:
Who said it was the #14 fuse? I changed it out even though it looked
OK (if a bit funky). Since then, I have driven 30 minutes nonstop
with the air blowing ICE COLD. Whether it stil works when SWMBO
drives
it should again. Hope it's the same with yours.
Manfred
Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2012 15:50:10 -0400
From: andrew strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1985 300CD Klima relay - where is it?
Great suggestions but I like Fuse 14
, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote:
Best , of course, is free or no additional cost.
Wilton
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I doubt that is the problem, as this baby has been under cover and
babied over the past dozen or so years. I will check
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I doubt that is the problem, as this baby has been under cover and
babied over the past dozen or so years. I will check the little
grille
, August 12, 2012 10:34 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1985 300CD Klima relay - where is it?
I doubt that is the problem, as this baby has been under cover and
babied over the past dozen or so years. I will check the little
grille on the dash for suction, however. I swapped in another klima
relay
Did you check all the connections at the various sensors -- the cut-out
switches and what not? You do have refrigerant, right?
--R
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SWMBO's 1985 300CD AC has started to behave erratically, blowing hot
air one minute and cold the next. I checked the monovalve (perfect)
and swapped in another ACC push button module. Nothing changed.
What's odd is that the ACC seems to be hunting wile operating,
clicking the compressor on and
andrew strasfogel wrote:
Could this be the klima relay?
Sure! I use the KLIMA as a scape goat for all ills. *smiles*
Actually, I suspect not, but I don't (yet) grok the KLIMA
...I looked under
the hood and didn't see it. Where is it located?
Big rectangular relay looking thing on the
I had a hunch that might be the klima but thought this it can't be
this easy. Thanks!
On Sat, Aug 11, 2012 at 9:42 PM, Fmiser fmi...@gmail.com wrote:
andrew strasfogel wrote:
Could this be the klima relay?
Sure! I use the KLIMA as a scape goat for all ills. *smiles*
Actually, I suspect
Classic symptoms of a deteriorated foam tube under the dash, which can be
replaced with similar tube from hardware store.
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'95 E300
'87 300TD
andrew strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote:
SWMBO's 1985 300CD AC has started to behave erratically, blowing hot
air one
Two things to check.
First is that there is suction past the interior temp sensor (in the
dash, I think). If not, the foam hose under the dash between the
plastic pipe and the fan box has fallen apart and you are getting zero
air movement past the sensor from the fan, resulting wide
A $2 repair?
Wilton
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Classic symptoms of a deteriorated foam tube under
Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1985 300CD Klima relay - where is it?
Classic symptoms of a deteriorated foam tube under the dash, which can be
replaced with similar tube from hardware store.
--
Max Dillon
Charleston SC
'95 E300
'87 300TD
andrew strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote:
SWMBO's 1985
lights
and sunroof switches.
Dan
On Aug 11, 2012, at 9:58 PM, WILTON wrote:
A $2 repair?
Wilton
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Best , of course, is free or no additional cost.
Wilton
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1985 300CD Klima relay - where is it?
Yes
Aha. Thanks, John.
On Feb 4, 2008 5:42 PM, John Robbins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
andrew strasfogel wrote:
I don't get it. I want to fix, not disable her car because she's a
SWMBO
kinda girl.
The car would still be able to shift just fine normally, and it would
just be a temporary
andrew strasfogel wrote:
I don't get it. I want to fix, not disable her car because she's a SWMBO
kinda girl.
The car would still be able to shift just fine normally, and it would
just be a temporary troubleshooting kind of thing. If there is
something else in the kickdown circuitry that is
andrew strasfogel wrote:
Her 1985 300CD intermittently won't progress past first gear unless we stop
the car, turn it off, and press the throttle to the floor. When we re-start
the car, it upshifts normally. I installed a new kick down switch a few
months ago, which reduced the frequency but
Group,
Her 1985 300CD intermittently won't progress past first gear unless we stop
the car, turn it off, and press the throttle to the floor. When we re-start
the car, it upshifts normally. I installed a new kick down switch a few
months ago, which reduced the frequency but did not end this
I don't get it. I want to fix, not disable her car because she's a SWMBO
kinda girl.
On Feb 4, 2008 5:15 PM, John Robbins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
andrew strasfogel wrote:
Her 1985 300CD intermittently won't progress past first gear unless we
stop
the car, turn it off, and press the
Spot on, Jim. I removed the floor mat, pushed the pedal to the floor a
couple times, started it up and drove away with smooth shifting in all
gears. Not sure why it acted up, but to play it safe a new kick down switch
is on the way...
300CD 214 K miles
On 8/29/07, Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Help! This morning, SWMBO's 1985 300CD won't progress out of first gear!
She had to leave the car in the carport and take the bus! What should I do
when I get home to check it out? Could it be low fluid? Stuck kickdown
switch? This has happened before but i forget how it was resolved (perhaps
Help! This morning, SWMBO's 1985 300CD won't progress out of first
gear!
She had to leave the car in the carport and take the bus! What should
I do
when I get home to check it out? Could it be low fluid? Stuck
kickdown
switch? This has happened before but i forget how it was
Many thanks to Marshall and Jim for their assistance in solving the case of
the floppy seat backs in her 1985 300CD.
Anyway, this morning I discovered that I can manually move the locking
hardware on the inside of each bucket seat into the lock position with the
engine running, and the seats
andrew strasfogel wrote:
Many thanks to Marshall and Jim for their assistance in solving the case of
the floppy seat backs in her 1985 300CD.
Anyway, this morning I discovered that I can manually move the locking
hardware on the inside of each bucket seat into the lock position with the
engine
it say they replaced the transmission?
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New transmission at less than 90K miles? Trailer
hitch? Hmmm.
Chris K
Cayce
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New transmission at less than 90K miles? Trailer
hitch? Hmmm.
Chris K
Cayce, SC
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Who was looking for a nice 300CD? Your MB has arrived.
http://makeashorterlink.com/?T52E31F4C
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John Freer
Palm Springs, CA
1992 500 SEL 140K Stardust
1985 380SL 145K Blue Belle
New transmission at less than 90K miles? Trailer hitch? Hmmm.
Chris K
Cayce, SC
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Who was looking for a nice 300CD? Your
ohhh baby, I gotta change my underwear now
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Who was looking for a nice 300CD? Your MB has arrived.
http://makeashorterlink.com/?T52E31F4C
where does it say they replaced the transmission?
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New transmission at less than 90K miles? Trailer hitch? Hmmm.
Chris K
Cayce, SC
?
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New transmission at less than 90K miles? Trailer hitch? Hmmm.
Chris K
Cayce, SC
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There was a similar 300CD advertised in the Nashville, TN paper last weekend
for $14,700.
Alan Duff
Knoxville, TN
From: andrew strasfogel
If a low milage 1979 240 D in comparable condition sold on ebay for
$13,500, what will this one get? It's a much nicer car model and far more
fun to
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