I pretty much ran thru all the things it might need after sitting that long to
get it running. Will need a full service for sure.
Sent from my iPhone
> On Apr 28, 2020, at 7:22 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes
> wrote:
>
> It’s easy to make a case on a non-operable car. Just start going down
It’s easy to make a case on a non-operable car. Just start going down the list
of all the things you *can’t* check out and it gets ugly real quick. If the
person is unwilling to accept this, make your best offer, walk away, and know
that there will be others.
-D
> On Apr 28, 2020, at 8:19 PM,
Yes good point. Not running would be,worth what a buyer would pay & assume
risk.
Dwight Giles Jr.
Wickford RI
On Tue, Apr 28, 2020, 6:39 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes
wrote:
> Not to rant, but if yours was worth $4200 at the time and it was running,
> what would a comparably appointed car of the
I thought the AC was dead. Oh well, my bad memory I guess.
On 4/28/2020 5:57 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
The AC worked and I was very, very lucky that my buyer got into a bidder’s
pissing match and got caught on the top. It was a nice car, but not an $8k nice
car. Maybe $5k-$6k.
-D
The AC worked and I was very, very lucky that my buyer got into a bidder’s
pissing match and got caught on the top. It was a nice car, but not an $8k nice
car. Maybe $5k-$6k.
-D
> On Apr 28, 2020, at 6:49 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
> wrote:
>
> It could be a BAT candidate if it was
Yep, I have been watching that thread over there.
On 4/28/2020 5:55 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
Uh-oh. If emotion has entered the negotiations, walk away. You’ll never get it
for your price. This is a battle you will always lose.
I’m working with a guy that was on PeachParts who is
Uh-oh. If emotion has entered the negotiations, walk away. You’ll never get it
for your price. This is a battle you will always lose.
I’m working with a guy that was on PeachParts who is trying to sell his father
in law’s 1984 380SL. FIL no longer drives and they need some $$ towards his
care.
It could be a BAT candidate if it was cleaned up and had a few things
done to it. I figure a $4-5k real world value but on BAT, no telling
what would happen. After all didn't you sell a 4 door there with no
working AC for crazy money?
On 4/28/2020 5:44 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
I
Mmmm, good point. A CDI properly sorted is a wonderful modern MB. Even my
eldest’s 2005 with nearly 350k on it is still a very pleasant car to drive.
Much nicer than a CD.
-D
> On Apr 28, 2020, at 6:42 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes
> wrote:
>
> Did you explain this to him?
>
> Not to sound
I do not think I spelled it out quite as nicely as you, I did explain I
see them advertised anywhere from $1k on up to $7-8k but not sure if
they are selling for that. I just told him I was willing to pay $2k as
it sits at that very moment. He then started to talk about if he wanted
to just
I doubt it’s a BaT candidate based on what you described. If that’s the case
and it was running and in good condition, $5k might not be an unrealistic
price. Mileage is a big hit no matter what.
-D
> On Apr 28, 2020, at 6:40 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
> wrote:
>
> How long ago was
I am sure I could have thrown a battery in it and I bet it would start
right up. Knowing the guy (who is Jewish BTW which may factor in, sorry
if I offended any of our Jewish friends) I figure it probably runs
good. I was make the offer as is trying to make it seem like it will
take a lot
Did you explain this to him?
Not to sound pedantic, but sometimes people just don’t get it unless you lay it
out for them. It also validates your rationale for the price you offer, so they
don’t immediately go into “lowball” mode or think you’re trying to rip them
off. It also puts them in a
How long ago was that. I figured a value of $4-5k on it realistically
so I figured not running with flat tires $2k was fair.
On 4/28/2020 5:35 PM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes wrote:
Yes mine ran well when i bought it for 4200.
Dwight Giles Jr.
Wickford RI
On Tue, Apr 28, 2020, 6:23 PM Dan
Not to rant, but if yours was worth $4200 at the time and it was running, what
would a comparably appointed car of the same mileage and vintage be worth if
it’s not running?
(I’m not ranting at you, just using your car as an example to make a point.)
The logic escapes me when people come up
That is why I thought a $2k offer as it sits was more than fair. If he
wants to get full value for it, or even what he considers full value, he
should get it running. I do have 2 240D's but I would really like to
get a turbo, its been many years since I have had one. Will end up
selling at
Yes mine ran well when i bought it for 4200.
Dwight Giles Jr.
Wickford RI
On Tue, Apr 28, 2020, 6:23 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes
wrote:
> I wouldn’t offer jack until you can drop a battery in it and take it for a
> drive. Cosmetics might be nice but it if you can’t check the mechanicals it
>
Yeah, I find it somewhat incredulous that people place a value on a car that’s
a market value for something that’s operable yet theirs doesn’t run. How can
that compare?
-D
> On Apr 28, 2020, at 6:32 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
> wrote:
>
> That’s true
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On
That’s true
Sent from my iPhone
> On Apr 28, 2020, at 5:23 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes
> wrote:
>
> I wouldn’t offer jack until you can drop a battery in it and take it for a
> drive. Cosmetics might be nice but it if you can’t check the mechanicals it
> leaves a LOT of questions
I wouldn’t offer jack until you can drop a battery in it and take it for a
drive. Cosmetics might be nice but it if you can’t check the mechanicals it
leaves a LOT of questions unanswered.
-D
> On Apr 28, 2020, at 6:19 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
> wrote:
>
> Maybe I should up my offer
Maybe I should up my offer to $3k
On 4/28/2020 5:15 PM, Dwight Giles wrote:
Some sell on BAT for 15K. In 2013 a tree came down on my 82 during
a,blizzard. I was ready to kiss good by but ins co said,worth 13,400
so body shop restored & painted it for about 6500.
I think they are the
Some sell on BAT for 15K. In 2013 a tree came down on my 82 during
a,blizzard. I was ready to kiss good by but ins co said,worth 13,400 so
body shop restored & painted it for about 6500.
I think they are the ultimate,123 diesel. If i had room & permission i
would have several.
Dwight Giles Jr.
There is this old guy I know who has this 85 300CD. He has owned it
about 25 years and bought it in CA. He has asked me about it in the past
looking for parts etc. The other day he said he might be interested in
selling it so I went and looked at it today. Car has been sitting about
5 years,
I think this particular 300CD was built on the MONDAY after the Octoberfest
weekend! It has a whole bunch of weird problems.
On Fri, Oct 31, 2008 at 7:30 PM, Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
If that is the case it is quite strange. Usually its the shutoff valve or
other leaks. I have
]wrote:
Yep, but it should allow the engine shutoff to work.
Wilton
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From: andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Monday, October 27, 2008 10:02 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] 85 300CD running on and on and on...
I
andrew strasfogel wrote:
Well, the dealership diagnosed that a leaky vacuum servo for the shutoff
under the dash near ignition switch.
AFAIK, there's a vacuum switch (aka valve) on the back of the ignition switch,
and hard plastic vacuum lines running to it from under the hood. I suppose if
Do you mean the vacuum control valve, 123 070 0046? That part is NLA!
On Fri, Oct 31, 2008 at 9:24 AM, Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
andrew strasfogel wrote:
Well, the dealership diagnosed that a leaky vacuum servo for the shutoff
under the dash near ignition switch.
AFAIK,
andrew strasfogel wrote:
Do you mean the vacuum control valve, 123 070 0046? That part is NLA!
I believe the official name for the valve that controls the vacuum applied to
the transmission modulator (controlling shift harshness/slippage) is vacuum
control valve. Not sure what the shutoff
Well, the dealership diagnosed that a leaky vacuum servo for the
shutoff
under the dash near ignition switch. They need to remove the cluster
to get
at it. Has anyone ever heard of this?
The _switch_ is behind there. They can go bad, especially
if they've gotten filled with oil. Perhaps
The switch often fails if oil gets into the line from a bad shutoff
valve.
We had to replace the one on my brother's 76 W115, so it's not
unheard of.
Easy fix, just pop out the cluster, unscrew the switch, install new
one, re-install cluster. Maybe an hour's labor.
Peter
On Oct 31,
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To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Monday, October 27, 2008 10:02 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] 85 300CD running on and on and on...
I assume that will disable the cetnral locking system - correct?
On Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 1:09 AM, Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Can
If that is the case it is quite strange. Usually its the shutoff
valve or other leaks. I have never see the ignition part go bad.
The one on the Albatross was full of oil, and popped apart.
I put it back together, clean, and it worked just fine.
-- Jim
I assume that will disable the cetnral locking system - correct?
On Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 1:09 AM, Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Can a leaky trunklock vacuum element cause a 1985 300CD to run on and on?
Plug the feed to the yellow line under the hood. That's
the lock system.
-- Jim
Yep, but it should allow the engine shutoff to work.
Wilton
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From: andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Monday, October 27, 2008 10:02 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] 85 300CD running on and on and on...
I assume
Can a leaky trunklock vacuum element cause a 1985 300CD to run on and on?
There is a serious vacuum leak somewhere, but the front door locks check
out OK. I replaced the fuel door servo this summer. Could a breach in the
trunk lock servo have the effect of preventing the vehicle from shutting
Yes - not leaving enough vacuum to operate the fuel shutoff.
Wilton
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To: Mercedes Discussion List Mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Sunday, October 26, 2008 7:21 PM
Subject: [MBZ] 85 300CD running on and on and on...
Can a leaky
The vacuum line to my 240D's central locking system has a big ol' golf tee
stuck in it, for that very reason.
On Sun, Oct 26, 2008 at 7:21 PM, andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:
Can a leaky trunklock vacuum element cause a 1985 300CD to run on and on?
There is a serious vacuum leak
Can a leaky trunklock vacuum element cause a 1985 300CD to run on and
on?
Plug the feed to the yellow line under the hood. That's
the lock system.
-- Jim
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You guys are all still either missing the point or not reading my
messages carefully! ONLY the battery in a 300CD TURBODIESEL coupe is
a challenge to remove; all other W123s are relatively straightforward.
On 9/2/07, Allan Streib [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Perhaps a few pictures and detailed notes as to why it is so relatively
hard to get a batt out of a CD might help us to understand, particularly
us over ere who have never seen a CD, let alone had a gander under the
bonnet.
andrew strasfogel wrote:
You guys are all still either missing the
: Re: [MBZ] '85 300CD battery question
Perhaps a few pictures and detailed notes as to why it is so relatively
hard to get a batt out of a CD might help us to understand, particularly
us over ere who have never seen a CD, let alone had a gander under the
bonnet.
andrew strasfogel wrote:
You guys
andrew strasfogel wrote:
All I know is, the MB Roadside tech was really SWEATING for 45 minutes
before he succeeded in getting out the old battery and installing the
new one.
It only took me 5-10 minutes to wrestle the battery out of the wrecked
190Dt. (it was hit behind the right front
andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
All I know is, the MB Roadside tech was really SWEATING for 45
minutes before he succeeded in getting out the old battery and
installing the new one. Perhaps someone can do some measurements to
determine why this job was so difficult.
Good chance
Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Friday, August 31, 2007 4:35 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] '85 300CD battery question
Kaleb C. Striplin, work wrote:
I dont really see how that could be. A sedan, wagon, coupe are all the
same
from the windshield up.
The California versions
It's hard to get a battery out, armed only with a laptop and mobile phone.
andrew strasfogel wrote:
All I know is, the MB Roadside tech was really SWEATING for 45 minutes
before he succeeded in getting out the old battery and installing the
new one. Perhaps someone can do some measurements
10 minutes? Takes me less than 2 minutes.
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Kaleb C. Striplin
Cox Auto Trader
730 FSBO Supervisor
- Original Message -
From: Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Friday, August 31, 2007 12:09 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] '85 300CD battery
@okiebenz.com
Sent: Friday, August 31, 2007 12:09 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] '85 300CD battery question
WOW, I can RR a 123 battery in less than 10 mins. I much prefer the
pull
out drop in of the 126. Remove the air cleaner. Have new rubber air
cleaner mounts handy if yours are bad
? Takes me less than 2 minutes.
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Kaleb C. Striplin
Cox Auto Trader
730 FSBO Supervisor
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From: Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Friday, August 31, 2007 12:09 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] '85 300CD battery
: [MBZ] '85 300CD battery question
It's ONLY a difficult job in the cramped engine bay of a W123 300CD coupe.
On other models even I can do the trick in 10 minutes.
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To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Friday, August 31, 2007 12:17 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] '85 300CD battery question
It's ONLY a difficult job in the cramped engine bay of a W123 300CD coupe.
On other
@okiebenz.com
Sent: Friday, August 31, 2007 12:17 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] '85 300CD battery question
It's ONLY a difficult job in the cramped engine bay of a W123 300CD
coupe.
On other models even I can do the trick in 10 minutes.
--
Luther KB5QHUAlma, Ark
'87 300SDL (272
123 isnt it?
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From: andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Friday, August 31, 2007 12:17 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] '85 300CD battery question
Subject: Re: [MBZ] '85 300CD battery question
it's identical. Kaleb, can you get it out without removing the air
cleaner?
Luther
On Fri, 31 Aug 2007 13:58:50 -0500, Kaleb C. Striplin, work
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The engine bay should be the same as any other 123 isnt it?
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, August 31, 2007 3:29 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] '85 300CD battery question
The roominess around the battery of a 1985 300CD is defiitely more cramped
than a 1983 300TD, I can tell you that as a FACT.
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Kaleb C. Striplin, work wrote:
I dont really see how that could be. A sedan, wagon, coupe are all the same
from the windshield up.
The California versions are different...
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FWIW, it wasn't difficult at all the change out the battery in my '85
California 300D; only took a few minutes.
cheers!
e
John Robbins wrote:
Kaleb C. Striplin, work wrote:
I dont really see how that could be. A sedan, wagon, coupe are all the same
from the windshield up.
The
: Friday, August 31, 2007 3:51 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] '85 300CD battery question
I dont really see how that could be. A sedan, wagon, coupe are all the same
from the windshield up.
---
Kaleb C. Striplin
Cox Auto Trader
730 FSBO Supervisor
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List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Friday, August 31, 2007 4:35 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] '85 300CD battery question
Kaleb C. Striplin, work wrote:
I dont really see how that could be. A sedan, wagon, coupe are all the
same
from the windshield up.
The California versions are different
I know that I sound ignorant so sue me. :) I am trying to replace the junk
battery in my '85 300CD with a brand new battery and I can't remove the old
battery. Is there something else that I have to take off to get the battery
out. It doesn't clear the lip of the engine compartment and it
Smith, Todd wrote:
I know that I sound ignorant so sue me. :) I am trying to replace
the junk battery in my '85 300CD with a brand new battery and I can't
remove the old battery. Is there something else that I have to take
off to get the battery out. It doesn't clear the lip of the engine
@okiebenz.com
Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2007 4:45 PM
Subject: [MBZ] '85 300CD battery question
I know that I sound ignorant so sue me. :) I am trying to replace the junk
battery in my '85 300CD with a brand new battery and I can't remove the old
battery. Is there something else that I have
List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2007 4:45 PM
Subject: [MBZ] '85 300CD battery question
I know that I sound ignorant so sue me. :) I am trying to replace the junk
battery in my '85 300CD with a brand new battery and I can't remove the old
battery. Is there something
WOW, I can RR a 123 battery in less than 10 mins. I much prefer the pull out
drop in of the 126. Remove the air cleaner. Have new rubber air cleaner
mounts handy if yours are bad.
Luther
On Thu, 30 Aug 2007 18:46:37 -0500, andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Pull off the long
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