Re: [MBZ] OT - Electrical Distribution Panel Relocation

2021-07-18 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes
On 2021-07-15 14:25, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote: Most utilities will coordinate pulling and replacing a meter without too much hassle. You break the seal and you’re in for some serious hurt. Sometimes they want to see your county permit before they turn the power back on, which is a

Re: [MBZ] OT - Electrical Distribution Panel Relocation

2021-07-15 Thread Allan Streib via Mercedes
Some of the smart meters go over the power lines, and some use essentially a built-in cellular modem. There was something of a scandal in the aftermath of the Texas power outages last winter. The meters leak information and someone figured out how to tell which meters never lost power.

Re: [MBZ] OT - Electrical Distribution Panel Relocation

2021-07-15 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
haha yeah right.  We have these "smart" meters now that report usage back to some central monitor, I guess over the power lines. The powerco will know immediately if you pull the meter as the signal will cease to ping and it will show as an outage so a truck will be dispatched...  I let this

Re: [MBZ] OT - Electrical Distribution Panel Relocation

2021-07-15 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes
Where is your spirit of adventure? Better to beg for forgiveness than to ask permission? On 15/07/2021 1:25 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote: This is a possibility, however, messing with the meter for most electrical utilities is a major league no-no, like fining you or putting in a

Re: [MBZ] OT - Electrical Distribution Panel Relocation

2021-07-15 Thread dan penoff.com via Mercedes
This is a possibility, however, messing with the meter for most electrical utilities is a major league no-no, like fining you or putting in a commercial meter box that has the meter behind a window so you can’t get at it (all of this on your dime, too.) Most utilities will coordinate pulling

Re: [MBZ] OT - Electrical Distribution Panel Relocation

2021-07-15 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
Here you can call the utility co. and they will come out and pull a fuse or switch at the transformer - killing power to everything including the meter. When you're finished, call them and they will turn it back on. How responsive they are to your calls might be another issue --- On Thu, Jul 15,

Re: [MBZ] OT - Electrical Distribution Panel Relocation

2021-07-15 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes
I am not an electrician and I know nothing about the rules in Florida, so take this with a grain of salt. I think you should be able to install a splitter box (which is basically a metal box with terminals inside to connect wires ) where the old panel is and then run new wires up to a new

Re: [MBZ] OT - Electrical Distribution Panel Relocation

2021-07-14 Thread Peter Frederick via Mercedes
My father would have shit bricks if he saw something like that. If you are going to jumper outlets, you strip a portion of wire to go under the screw, you don't put wire nuts on. Same thing for equipment ground, one wire all the way back to the ground rail in the box, no splices, ever. He

Re: [MBZ] OT - Electrical Distribution Panel Relocation

2021-07-14 Thread Allan Streib via Mercedes
I've only seen the nut and pigtail when the circuit continues to another outlet or box. If it's the last outlet/fixture on the circuit it's just wired directly to the feed wire, or so has been the case in the houses I've owned here. Allan On Wed, Jul 14, 2021, at 10:52 PM, Mitch Haley via

Re: [MBZ] OT - Electrical Distribution Panel Relocation

2021-07-14 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes
On 2021-07-14 21:12, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote: I’m curious as well. I can’t imagine wire nutting would be to code, but then again who knows? I don’t. Wire nuts are preferred at the other end. Example: feed wire from breaker > wire nut > pigtail > outlet seems to be preferred to

Re: [MBZ] OT - Electrical Distribution Panel Relocation

2021-07-14 Thread G Mann via Mercedes
Your existing panel, which you want to replace with a larger service panel in a better location, will need to be removed and replaced with an approved watertight sub panel. All the existing lines will then be connected inside that sub panel with new lines that come from your new service entrance

Re: [MBZ] OT - Electrical Distribution Panel Relocation

2021-07-14 Thread dan penoff.com via Mercedes
I’ll have to check with the utility on the drop capacity. Based on previous experience they seem to run a minimum size service entrance conductor which would probably support up to 200A. I’ll consult an electrician when I get time to get one over to check things out, I am more curious to know

Re: [MBZ] OT - Electrical Distribution Panel Relocation

2021-07-14 Thread dan penoff.com via Mercedes
I’m curious as well. I can’t imagine wire nutting would be to code, but then again who knows? I don’t. -D Sent from my iPad > On Jul 14, 2021, at 8:19 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes > wrote: > > Replace every breaker with a wire nut, and run new wires from the old box up > to the new box? >

Re: [MBZ] OT - Electrical Distribution Panel Relocation

2021-07-14 Thread Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes
Is the cable from the pole to the meter and outdoor shutoff and thence the new panel good for 200A? All that might need to be upgraded. I can’t remember the size of that cable - 6/0? 8/0? A new panel relocated from the old panel location will need to connect to the old cables in the house

Re: [MBZ] OT - Electrical Distribution Panel Relocation

2021-07-14 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
I'm curious what you find out. Our new place in Maine has a very modern circuit breaker box that is located poorly which is to say its very nearly under the toilet. I'd like to get it moved about 10 feet away. Fortunately there is exactly 1 circuit in it which feeds the (ancient) fuse panel on

Re: [MBZ] OT - Electrical Distribution Panel Relocation

2021-07-14 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes
Replace every breaker with a wire nut, and run new wires from the old box up to the new box? I think it would be legal, but it seems a bit inelegant. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or