Re: [MBZ] This Looks Interesting

It is an M104. What do you think it burns? Car is listed as an E320. That is a clue. Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes October 3, 2016 at 5:22 PM Diesel or gas? On Mon, Oct 3, 2016 at 6:18 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes < ___

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Diesel or gas? On Mon, Oct 3, 2016 at 6:18 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > IS that some kind of pumped-up euro mkt engine or the standard fitting to > the car? Is the US version 24 valve? > > --FT > > > > On 10/3/16 6:14 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes wrote: >

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IS that some kind of pumped-up euro mkt engine or the standard fitting to the car? Is the US version 24 valve? --FT On 10/3/16 6:14 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes wrote: Nice! No ACC! That is a HUGE plus! Sportline a Plus. Vergasser: a Huge negative cancels out the plusses.

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Nice! No ACC! That is a HUGE plus! Sportline a Plus. Vergasser: a Huge negative cancels out the plusses. If anyone wants a vergasser, this looks like a candidate. Dan Penoff via Mercedes October 3, 2016 at 4:45 PM

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Alexandria? $2500? Andrew needs that more than he needs a Rolls. > On October 3, 2016 at 5:45 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes > wrote: > > > http://www.benzworld.org/forums/sale-wanted-trade-giveaway/2708585-1993-euro-w124-e320-sportline-euro.html#post14996577 > > Dan

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On Mon, 3 Oct 2016 17:45:46 -0400 Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: > http://www.benzworld.org/forums/sale-wanted-trade-giveaway/2708585-1993-euro-w124-e320-sportline-euro.html#post14996577 Yes, it does. Craig ___

[MBZ] This Looks Interesting

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Re: [MBZ] OT: An interesting pattern of earthquakes in, Oklahoma and Kansas (this time WITH picture)

I had 4 parked here these last few days, I heard some rumblings the last coupla nights --JC On 7/5/16 7:53 PM, MG via Mercedes wrote: Can't be me. I only have 6 of those MBs here. Manfred Date: Tue, 5 Jul 2016 17:04:53 -0500 From: Randy Bennell I hear there is

Re: [MBZ] OT: An interesting pattern of earthquakes in, Oklahoma and Kansas (this time WITH picture)

Can't be me. I only have 6 of those MBs here. Manfred Date: Tue, 5 Jul 2016 17:04:53 -0500 From: Randy Bennell I hear there is another fault being generated in Florida. RB ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives

Re: [MBZ] OT: An interesting pattern of earthquakes in Oklahoma and Kansas (this time WITH picture)

More than you could ever imagine…. Dan > On Jul 5, 2016, at 6:04 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes > wrote: > > I hear there is another fault being generated in Florida. > > RB > > On 05/07/2016 5:01 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: >> That’s the Snook/Striplin Fault

Re: [MBZ] OT: An interesting pattern of earthquakes in Oklahoma and Kansas (this time WITH picture)

On Tue, 5 Jul 2016 18:01:21 -0400 Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: > That’s the Snook/Striplin Fault Line. It runs from Wichita to > northeast OK and it’s caused by a large concentration of older Mercedes > vehicles accreting in the area. > > Dan OkieList Resident

Re: [MBZ] OT: An interesting pattern of earthquakes in Oklahoma and Kansas (this time WITH picture)

I hear there is another fault being generated in Florida. RB On 05/07/2016 5:01 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: That’s the Snook/Striplin Fault Line. It runs from Wichita to northeast OK and it’s caused by a large concentration of older Mercedes vehicles accreting in the area. Dan

Re: [MBZ] OT: An interesting pattern of earthquakes in Oklahoma and Kansas (this time WITH picture)

That’s the Snook/Striplin Fault Line. It runs from Wichita to northeast OK and it’s caused by a large concentration of older Mercedes vehicles accreting in the area. Dan OkieList Resident Geologist > On Jul 5, 2016, at 5:04 PM, Craig via Mercedes wrote: > > I saw

[MBZ] OT: An interesting pattern of earthquakes in Oklahoma and Kansas

I saw this on http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/map and thought it was very interesting. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:

[MBZ] This is interesting but too much money

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Yes I should be. I need to sell some stuff though Sent from my iPhone > On May 21, 2016, at 5:37 AM, Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes > wrote: > > I'd be all over that. > > On Friday, May 20, 2016, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > >>

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ail.com> Sent: Saturday, May 21, 2016 6:37 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] This is interesting I'd be all over that. On Friday, May 20, 2016, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: 1983 MERCEDES 240D W123 MANUAL http://oklahomacity.craigslist.org/cto/5595519033.html via

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I'd be all over that. On Friday, May 20, 2016, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > 1983 MERCEDES 240D W123 MANUAL > http://oklahomacity.craigslist.org/cto/5595519033.html > > via cPro for Craigslist > iOS: http://tinyurl.com/CL-iDevice > Android:

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Kaleb wrote: > 1983 MERCEDES 240D W123 MANUAL looks like my 1984 with cloth door panels mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:

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Best possible 240D! Out of my price range, but looks like a keeper! (based on very limited info) Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes May 20, 2016 at 5:40 PMvia Postbox 1983 MERCEDES

[MBZ] This is interesting

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[MBZ] This is interesting body work

http://jalopnik.com/this-dent-pulling-system-is-oddly-satisfying-to-watch-1740192497 --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:

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Mind boggling. Makes me want to get dented. I wonder if it only works in France. On Tue, Nov 3, 2015 at 10:37 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > http://jalopnik.com/this-dent-pulling-system-is-oddly-satisfying-to-watch-1740192497 > > --R > >

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It only works if you drink wine for lunch.. ;) Successful dent repair is creating the accident in reverse. In the most simple terms. On Tue, Nov 3, 2015 at 8:43 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Mind boggling. Makes me want to get dented. I wonder if it only

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Spelling is almost correct. It's Gaulois. On Tue, Nov 3, 2015 at 11:04 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > And you have to have a Galois (sp?) hanging out the corner of your mouth > > --R > > > On 11/3/15 10:45 AM, G Mann via Mercedes wrote: > >> It only works if you

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Ah yes, that Gauls... Gallia est omnis divisa in tres partes... --R On 11/3/15 12:12 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote: Spelling is almost correct. It's Gaulois. On Tue, Nov 3, 2015 at 11:04 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: And you have to have a Galois

Re: [MBZ] This is interesting body work

I wonder if it only works with the mild/soft steel of Toymotors, and not the "high strength" steel of 126 and later MBs - - - I'm sure it would work with our VW - the steel doors are more like aluminum - dent very easily. On Tue, Nov 3, 2015 at 9:43 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <

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I don't get how those flimsy looking tabs can be so strong. Grasshopper, Go check out "God is my Co-Pilot" from your govmnt welfare bookstore (library) and read the part about raising a plane from the bottom of the river. many hands make light work. ___

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com> To: Mercedes Discussion List <mercedes@okiebenz.com> Cc: Curly McLain <126die...@gmail.com> Sent: Tuesday, November 3, 2015 3:53 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] This is interesting body work >I don't get how those flimsy looking tabs can be so strong. Grasshopper, Go check out "God

Re: [MBZ] This is interesting body work

I'm amazed that you can do spot welds in a fraction of a second while holding the tab you're spot welding and letting your hand touch the panel you're welding it to. Not to mention I can't imagine welding without gloves. Normally that would seem like a good way to make your hand tingle for a

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the connection. -Curt From: Mitch Haley via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com> To: Mercedes Discussion List <mercedes@okiebenz.com> Cc: Mitch Haley <mi...@mitchellhaley.com> Sent: Tuesday, November 3, 2015 3:25 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] This is interesting body work I'm a

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would break the connection. -Curt From: Mitch Haley via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com> To: Mercedes Discussion List <mercedes@okiebenz.com> Cc: Mitch Haley <mi...@mitchellhaley.com> Sent: Tuesday, November 3, 2015 3:25 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] This is interesting bo

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On 03/11/2015 2:25 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes wrote: I'm amazed that you can do spot welds in a fraction of a second while holding the tab you're spot welding and letting your hand touch the panel you're welding it to. Not to mention I can't imagine welding without gloves. Normally that would

Re: [MBZ] This is interesting body work

From: Mitch Haley via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com> >> To: Mercedes Discussion List <mercedes@okiebenz.com> >> Cc: Mitch Haley <mi...@mitchellhaley.com> >> Sent: Tuesday, November 3, 2015 3:25 PM >> Subject: Re: [MBZ] This is interesting body work

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On Tue, 3 Nov 2015 10:37:41 -0500 Rich Thomas via Mercedes wrote: > http://jalopnik.com/this-dent-pulling-system-is-oddly-satisfying-to-watch-1740192497 The company's web page has more information: http://www.carolinacollisionequipment.com/miracle-system-dent-puller

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And you have to have a Galois (sp?) hanging out the corner of your mouth --R On 11/3/15 10:45 AM, G Mann via Mercedes wrote: It only works if you drink wine for lunch.. ;) Successful dent repair is creating the accident in reverse. In the most simple terms. On Tue, Nov 3, 2015 at 8:43 AM,

[MBZ] This is... Interesting...

http://worcester.craigslist.org/cto/5067293164.html *snort* -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:

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It might be diesel but not likely an MB motor. RB On 22/06/2015 12:08 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes wrote: I'll bet it really is legit. When I bought my '87 wagon up in New Jersey, at my first fuel stop there was a 80's BMW getting diesel, I think it had a six cylinder motor. They also had a

Re: [MBZ] This is... Interesting...

Sure am glad it has no rust. ;) On Mon, Jun 22, 2015 at 11:31 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: http://worcester.craigslist.org/cto/5067293164.html *snort* -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives

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I'll bet it really is legit. When I bought my '87 wagon up in New Jersey, at my first fuel stop there was a 80's BMW getting diesel, I think it had a six cylinder motor. They also had a reputation for weak heads. - Max Charleston SC On Mon, Jun 22, 2015 at 11:47 AM, Rich Thomas via

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There was an 80s vintage BMW diesel, which I looked at once when searching for my 1979 300TD. Randy Steele warned me off of them, saying that they had some serious issues with heads leaking, I believe. Sounds like the rodbender MB engines. Dan On Jun 22, 2015, at 1:15 PM, Randy Bennell

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Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: There was an 80s vintage BMW diesel, which I looked at once when searching for my 1979 300TD. Randy Steele warned me off of them, saying that they had some serious issues with heads leaking, I believe. Sounds like the rodbender MB engines. 324d or 524td. It

Re: [MBZ] This is... Interesting...

The 350 is very reliable for the most part, it is not bullet proof like the 617 though. Sent from my iPhone On Jun 22, 2015, at 2:33 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: There was an 80s vintage BMW diesel, which I looked at once when

Re: [MBZ] This is... Interesting...

Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: There was an 80s vintage BMW diesel, which I looked at once when searching for my 1979 300TD. Randy Steele warned me off of them, saying that they had some serious issues with heads leaking, I believe. Sounds like the rodbender MB engines. 324d or 524td. It

Re: [MBZ] This is... Interesting...

The MB stealership in Milwaukee had a BMW wagon with one of these engines in it, and they wanted to make me a DEAL. I talked to Randy about it and he told me to run away as if my hair was on fire. Asshats also wanted to sell me a W124 260E, too. What a POS that car was. Dan On Jun 22,

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The confusion is understandable. He probably couldn't find a star at the PNP and stuck a BMW button on the hood. It's probably a fine Mercedes with ice cold air. Gerry There is nothing wrong with a BMW identifying as a Benz. It has probably had those feelings since it was built, but had to

Re: [MBZ] Could be interesting

The one in the Euromotorcars lot had at least a complete front seat. On Thu, Mar 12, 2015 at 2:37 AM, arche...@embarqmail.com arche...@embarqmail.com wrote: Andrew Strasfogel wrote: I saw a new Sprinter diesel at the dealership a few months ago. The price tag was only 45 thousand dollars.

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Andrew Strasfogel wrote: I saw a new Sprinter diesel at the dealership a few months ago. The price tag was only 45 thousand dollars. What's the catch? There were 3 at the Gainesville, Fl dealer for $40,000 each. The catch was that there was nothing inside but the drivers seat. Gerry

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My neighbor went to buy one a year or so ago to haul produce, a new one was more than that he said. He ended up buying a used one but it was still $32k I think he told me. --R On 3/11/15 2:14 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote: I saw a new Sprinter diesel at the dealership a few months ago. The

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I saw a new Sprinter diesel at the dealership a few months ago. The price tag was only 45 thousand dollars. What's the catch? On Mar 11, 2015 8:20 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I think they are going to be building those at the expanded Sprinter plant up the road.

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I was surprised by the gas engine too. But I'm still impressed by it... Should do well Jaime On Wednesday, March 11, 2015, Curly McLain via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: http://www.autonews.com/article/20150305/OEM04/150309896 Too bad Jaime can't convince MomBUSA to get em to bring

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I think they are going to be building those at the expanded Sprinter plant up the road. THey have the dizzel in the Sprinter, would seem easy to put it in these. --R On 3/11/15 7:51 AM, Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes wrote: I was surprised by the gas engine too. But I'm still impressed by

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Bummer, no Dissel power option. The Transit Connect and Ram Promaster do have Diesels, a 3.2l 5 cyl and 3.0l 4 cyl respectively Kevin in Hillsboro, OR who likes that Diesel sound Sent from my iPhone On Mar 10, 2015, at 10:09 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

[MBZ] Could be interesting

http://www.autonews.com/article/20150305/OEM04/150309896 Too bad Jaime can't convince MomBUSA to get em to bring in the Vito Dissel in place of the gasser. Even so, it might be an alternative to the dogde van in a few years. (Also borrowed from the MBCA Hawaii section)

Re: [MBZ] OT but interesting

On Tue, 17 Feb 2015 16:10:59 -0600 Randy Bennell via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: This is something I picked off of another list that I read. Thought you folks might enjoy it too. http://yarchive.net/home.html Since it's all text, there's a lot of reading in little

[MBZ] OT but interesting

This is something I picked off of another list that I read. Thought you folks might enjoy it too. RB I have had the below link bookmarked for years. From what I can gather Norman had many varied interests and he spent the time to save interesting stuff and put it up on line. When you read

[MBZ] this is interesting

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On Sat, 29 Mar 2014 15:58:22 -0500 Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net wrote: http://www.chonday.com/Videos/cruishalcut2 Indeed! They had the 99 foot section to be inserted pre-fabbed and just slipped it in. That speaks to both the original ship's assembly being accurately to plan and the new

[MBZ] This looks interesting

http://dallas.craigslist.org/dal/cto/4361302010.html -- Sent from cPRO for iPhone, iPod and iPad Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:

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On Sat, 8 Mar 2014 11:58:14 -0600 Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net wrote: http://dallas.craigslist.org/dal/cto/4361302010.html Why would it look interesting? Just because it's a W11[4,5]? Remember, they get poor gas mileage. Craig ___

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Yeah, I don't get it. They have smelly interiors from the ancient vinyl seat covers, and their driving performance is sadly lacking. Plus they lack any sort of attractive design. On Sat, Mar 8, 2014 at 1:08 PM, Craig diese...@pisquared.net wrote: On Sat, 8 Mar 2014 11:58:14 -0600 Kaleb C.

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It appears to be in decent shape, looks good. Would rather have a diesel. Sent from my iPhone On Mar 8, 2014, at 12:08 PM, Craig diese...@pisquared.net wrote: On Sat, 8 Mar 2014 11:58:14 -0600 Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net wrote:

Re: [MBZ] This looks interesting

On Sat, 8 Mar 2014 12:33:18 -0600 Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net wrote: It appears to be in decent shape, looks good. Would rather have a diesel. Yes, a diesel would be a much better choice. Our first Benz was a '72 W115 220D/8. Craig ___

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Is it me or is there something funky about the center console? It looks askew in the picture. Dan Sent from my iPad On Mar 8, 2014, at 1:33 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net wrote: It appears to be in decent shape, looks good. Would rather have a diesel. Sent from my iPhone On

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No I can see it too, perhaps trying to copy a RHD BMW? The /8 looks nice in coupe form but the sedan is a bit plain, especially with all the US junk. Speaking of coupes http://ranwhenparked.net/2014/01/14/a-look-at-the-one-off-mercedes-benz-600-coupe-w100/ Hendrik who had a two door ute once

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Yea it looks like it is not screwed down Sent from my iPhone On Mar 8, 2014, at 6:28 PM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: Is it me or is there something funky about the center console? It looks askew in the picture. Dan Sent from my iPad On Mar 8, 2014, at 1:33 PM, Kaleb C.

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On Mar 8, 2014 7:33 PM, Hendrik and Fay heni...@gmail.com wrote: No I can see it too, perhaps trying to copy a RHD BMW? There are clips on the top left and right of the console. If one jumped off, the owner might not have known how to put it right. Or, the AC fan may have been replaced

Re: [MBZ] This looks interesting

On Sat, 8 Mar 2014 11:58:14 -0600 Kaleb C. Striplin http://dallas.craigslist.org/dal/cto/4361302010.html Why would it look interesting? Just because it's a W11[4,5]? Remember, they get poor gas mileage. Our last two fillups were 25.5 and 31.5 MPG. That one should be a W114, and won't do

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I would think so. Balancing is just making sure the moving parts are equal in weight. I can't see that being at all difficult in this environment. Dan who once balanced and blueprinted a 1600cc Beetle engine. On Dec 29, 2013, at 7:46 PM, OK Don wrote: I wonder if the manufacturing process

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The Saturn SL series was entirely US made as far as I know. Sent from my iPhone On Dec 30, 2013, at 1:54 AM, Alex Chamberlain apchamberl...@gmail.com wrote: On Dec 29, 2013 4:29 PM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: I never could see any need for a geo or a saturn. What are you

Re: [MBZ] This is interesting upe1ujyz

Alex Chamberlain wrote: On Dec 29, 2013 4:29 PM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: I never could see any need for a geo or a saturn. What are you talking about? Nobody mentioned Saturn. The point was the hypocrisy of people in the '90s who said Buy American and then went to their Chevy

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i loved saturn and were quite sad to see them fail On Mon, Dec 30, 2013 at 11:32 AM, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: The Saturn SL series was entirely US made as far as I know. Sent from my iPhone On Dec 30, 2013, at 1:54 AM, Alex Chamberlain apchamberl...@gmail.com wrote: On Dec 29, 2013

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What are you talking about? Nobody mentioned Saturn. The point was the hypocrisy of people in the '90s who said Buy American and then went to their Chevy dealer to buy a Geo (all of which were captive imports). Alex my thought has nothing to do with origin. I just never saw any

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Gary Hurst wrote: i loved saturn and were quite sad to see them fail You just didn't like the early Ecotec engines and their lack of oil pressure at low rpm? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To

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:19 -0500 From: Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] This is interesting upe1ujyz Message-ID: 52c1b0b7.80...@voyager.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Alex Chamberlain wrote: On Dec 29, 2013 4:29 PM

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it like everything else at GM, same way they screwed up Saab. -Curt Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2013 11:51:35 -0600 From: Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] This is interesting Message-ID: a062408f0cee76278f2a0@[192.168.1.52] Content-Type: text

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Geo allowed people who would never buy an asian car to get an asian car without having to have a Toyota or Suzuki. My dad had a Chevy Tracker which was a re-badged Geo Tracker which was a re-badged Suzuki Grand Vitara. It was an EXCELLENT little truck, very good offroad and easy on gas. The

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On Dec 30, 2013, at 9:13 PM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: Until they screwed it up Saturn was a brilliant move, weird little cars that people loved in a no-pressure buying atmosphere. Saturn people loved Saturn, then they just made it like everything else at GM, same way they

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IMHO, a business doesn't really start a downhill slide until the accountants take over. Rick Sent from my iPhone A brilliant, and accurate observation. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To

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On Mon, Dec 30, 2013 at 9:08 PM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: IMHO, a business doesn't really start a downhill slide until the accountants take over. A brilliant, and accurate observation. Rather an incoherent comment, Loren, considering that you just said that you thought

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Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2013 22:20:02 -0800 From: apchamberl...@gmail.com To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] This is interesting On Mon, Dec 30, 2013 at 9:08 PM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: IMHO, a business doesn't really start

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To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] This is interesting upe1ujyz Message-ID: 52c1b0b7.80...@voyager.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Alex Chamberlain wrote: On Dec 29, 2013 4:29 PM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: I never could

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Craig wrote: On Sat, 28 Dec 2013 10:38:36 -0600 Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net wrote: http://jalopnik.com/this-is-how-mercedes-amg-hand-builds-every-single-engin-1487869406 Indeed! The level of specialized tooling is amazing, even the jig to allow the pistons to just be pushed down,

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Jerry Herrman wrote: Slow day here. Terrific video. He made it look easy assembling that engine. I was wondering about his level of skill. Is he just an assembler? How long would it take to become proficient at that job? IMO, he's just working as an assembler, but he could very well be

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Slow day here. Terrific video. He made it look easy assembling that engine. I was wondering about his level of skill. Is he just an assembler? Most likely How long would it take to become proficient at that job? about a week. There are probably cheater cards, or more likely, the parts are

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Dieselhead wrote: At AMG, they may specify the exact sizes from the parts suppliers, (.001mm) or they have the parts picker matching pistons to bore ahead of time. Modern machining allows all cyl to be the same within .001mm and the same for pistons. Process control (SPC) and better

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The Iron Duke was a European design, not a US one, which may have had something to do with the longevity (along with new, rather than 50 year old, manufacturing equipment). GM was well known for sloppy manufacture and nickel and dimeing a good design into junk by saving miniscule amounts

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Peter Frederick wrote: The Iron Duke was a European design, not a US one, which may have had something to do with the longevity (along with new, rather than 50 year old, manufacturing equipment). I thought it was half a 301 V-8. (and so does Wiki) You've got a point about the tooling being

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I was impressed with the robot that torqued all of the head bolts at one time - On Sun, Dec 29, 2013 at 7:55 AM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: Craig wrote: The level of specialized tooling is amazing, even the jig to allow the pistons to just be pushed down, compressing the rings,

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Dieselhead wrote: At AMG, they may specify the exact sizes from the parts suppliers, (.001mm) or they have the parts picker matching pistons to bore ahead of time. Modern machining allows all cyl to be the same within .001mm and the same for pistons. Process control (SPC) and better

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I think getting their butts kicked by the Japanese may have had something to do with it, even though there were millions of Americans that would NEVER buy a Jap car. -Original Message- From: Peter Frederick Sent: Sunday, December 29, 2013 11:34 AM ... Emissions warranty requirements

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How much of that crowd bought Geo's? (The prizm in particular)... -- John W Reames jream...@verizon.net Home: +14106646986 Mobile: +14437915905 On Dec 29, 2013, at 18:38, Scott Ritchey ritche...@nc.rr.com wrote: I think getting their butts kicked by the Japanese may have had something to do

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That was the wake up call for sure! Frod thought they could produce a quality product by saying quality is job one, but it was not until the mid 80s when they contracted Mazda to build some transmissions for tauri, that they got a startk contrast in warranty claims, lots for frod, almost

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I never could see any need for a geo or a saturn. How much of that crowd bought Geo's? (The prizm in particular)... -- John W Reames jream...@verizon.net Home: +14106646986 Mobile: +14437915905 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives

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I wonder if the manufacturing process is good enough to produce a balanced engine without cherry picking and matching parts? I was told (don't know if it's true) that MB engines, at least back in the 61x days were dynamically balanced at the factory. I didn't see any evidence of that in the video,

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Dieselhead wrote: Modern machining allows all cyl to be the same within .001mm and the same for pistons. Process control (SPC) and better machines make this possible. It is the main reason why american engines routinely go 300k miles , not 40k to 120k as in the 60s. Mitch wrote:

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I doubt a MB of the 00s until now needs to be balanced. Probably from the 90s on. I wonder if the manufacturing process is good enough to produce a balanced engine without cherry picking and matching parts? I was told (don't know if it's true) that MB engines, at least back in the 61x days

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It looked like there might have been a small LCD terminal at the one end of the engine assembly stand along with the laser scanner that was next to it. -Original Message- From: Scott Ritchey Sent: Saturday, December 28, 2013 8:38 PM To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' Subject: Re: [MBZ

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Yes the RTV robot was most impressive. Sent from my iPhone On Dec 29, 2013, at 8:55 AM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: Craig wrote: On Sat, 28 Dec 2013 10:38:36 -0600 Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net wrote:

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rmassm...@embarqmail.com wrote: It looked like there might have been a small LCD terminal at the one end of the engine assembly stand along with the laser scanner that was next to it. 45 seconds into the video, he's standing at a computer terminal with a handful of papers. Then he walks away

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