[MBZ] why we drive old Mercedes Benz cars

2006-04-03 Thread Loren Faeth
Driving back home last night, a 200 mile trip, the weather was lousy. High winds, off and on rain. wind was hard out of the NW, quartering off the port or starboard the whole way. (headwind and crosswind) Most traffic on I-80 was going 55-65, some noticeably slower. (very unusual, except

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2006-01-26 Thread Richard Murdoch
On 1/24/06, Loren Faeth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The local independent shop has the remains of an SD that caught fire while driving down the interstate. I would have believed that to be impossible until I saw it. The fire does not appear to have started at the alternator or battery.

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2006-01-26 Thread Mitch Haley
Richard Murdoch wrote: Not quite impossible. A friend had his 85 300D catch fire while he was on the highway. My mail carrier stopped in my driveway and told me she was having brake trouble. I noticed that the trouble with her Taurus at that moment in time was the flames behind the right

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2006-01-26 Thread Christopher McCann
why I carry a fire extinguisher in the 300SD...prolly should throw one in the TD too. Chris Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Richard Murdoch wrote: Not quite impossible. A friend had his 85 300D catch fire while he was on the highway. My mail carrier stopped in my driveway and

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2006-01-25 Thread Bob Rentfro
Amen, Dr. L Bob Rentfro '77 300D 148K '01 VW Beetle TDI 61K Litchfield Park, AZ - Original Message - From: Loren Faeth [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2006 4:09 PM Subject: [MBZ] Why we drive old Mercedes Benz Cars Today

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2006-01-25 Thread Alex Chamberlain
Surely a big part of why the Toyota fire happened is just that it was a gas car? That's one big safety advantage of diesel that many people don't think about---it's combustible, but not inflammable, much less volatile. Not saying that MB's aren't safer than other cars, rather that there's a big

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2006-01-25 Thread Loren Faeth
I always thought that gasoline caused most vehicle fires, but I have seen a lot of semi tractors that burned. The only difference is that diesel needs a wick or it needs to be heated enough to vaporize. Gasoline evaporates easily at air temps. Since diesel has more BTUs per gallon, it will

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2006-01-25 Thread OK Don
I vaguely recall a scandal around a TV documentary where they were demonstrating the difference in flamability of Diesle and gas cars by firing a rifle at the fuel tanks. Neither one exploded onr burned. They decided to light the gas tank with a model rocket engine to demonstrate their point! I

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2006-01-25 Thread Jim Cathey
One thing that I have noticed is that on the old cars with the tank under the trunk (107-115 inclusive) if a fuel line is cut or broken, the fuel stays in the tank. In the R107, at least, the tank is behind the rear seating area. That is, above the floor of the trunk and forward of the

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2006-01-25 Thread Loren Faeth
That was the chevy pickup truck attack. they were trying to prove that side mounted tanks in pickups were dangerous. They could not get the trucks to burn in the staged crashes, so the helped them with Estes model rocket engines. At 09:36 PM 1/24/2006, you wrote: I vaguely recall a scandal

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2006-01-25 Thread Loren Faeth
I have not found out what model toyota it was. I tend to believe it was one with the tank mounted behind the seat. (vertical) Those will gravity feed the fire, as I mentioned previously. In a frontal collision, it is unlikely that a rear mounted tank would have spewed enough fuel to cause

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2006-01-25 Thread Loren Faeth
The attack was against Chevrolet, but it was really against ALL side mounted pickup tanks. This includes every manufacturer of pickups. Some used the tanks behind the seat in some models. IH and Ford come to mind, but both IH and Ford also used side mounted tanks. So did the datsun I had.

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2006-01-25 Thread Bob Rentfro
] Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2006 8:36 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Why we drive old Mercedes Benz Cars I vaguely recall a scandal around a TV documentary where they were demonstrating the difference in flamability of Diesle and gas cars by firing a rifle at the fuel tanks. Neither one exploded onr burned

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2006-01-25 Thread Loren Faeth
Yes, your are right. I didn't think that one through. I don't mess with 107s as much as you do. I too, feel safer with dissel fool. (but it does burn) At 10:25 PM 1/24/2006, you wrote: One thing that I have noticed is that on the old cars with the tank under the trunk (107-115

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2006-01-25 Thread l02turner
] Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2006 6:09 PM Subject: [MBZ] Why we drive old Mercedes Benz Cars Today we learned that a HS friend of my daughter was burned beyond any recognition after her 2005 Toyota hit a rock pillar at the entrance to a park and then burned. It took them almost a week to find

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2006-01-25 Thread LT Don
I asked Jeff about that car just a few days ago. He thought that maybe it was brake fluid rather than #2 that got the fire going initially. On 1/24/06, Loren Faeth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: IThe local independent shop has the remains of an SD that caught fire while driving down the interstate.

[MBZ] Why we drive old Mercedes Benz Cars

2006-01-24 Thread Loren Faeth
Today we learned that a HS friend of my daughter was burned beyond any recognition after her 2005 Toyota hit a rock pillar at the entrance to a park and then burned. It took them almost a week to find out who it was. There was not enough of the vehicle left to get a VIN from, and the