Re: [MBZ] reminded tonight how bad old diesels are in the snow

2019-03-09 Thread Clay Monroe via Mercedes
The SDL did exceptionally in the grand voyage from SEA to ND and back two years ago. Junk chinee tars that were maybe 6 months old, driving at speed in the dark of night. At one point through blinding snow for maybe 20 miles with all manner of vehicles in ditches and medians, spun out or

Re: [MBZ] reminded tonight how bad old diesels are in the snow

2019-03-09 Thread Jim Cathey via Mercedes
> Note 2: You will notice the type of vehicle is not listed because it makes > minimal difference. Geometry matters. Short and square like a Jeep CJ is evil. Long and strung out, like my Dodge pickup, seems to not want to swap ends very easily. Same general effect as a tall vs short

Re: [MBZ] reminded tonight how bad old diesels are in the snow

2019-03-08 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
Schnee performance depends on: 1.  Tire performance.  (min of Blizzaks, max of hakkas) 2.  See #1   (repeat)   No fat tires.  Stock size.  The engineers picked the best tire size. 3.  Driver experience/ability 4.  Weight over drive wheels Note 1:  Front wheel drive is less controllable in

Re: [MBZ] reminded tonight how bad old diesels are in the snow

2019-03-08 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
Same place he was last week and the week before!  Pay attention! Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote on 3/8/19 3:43 PM: Where is this? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change

Re: [MBZ] reminded tonight how bad old diesels are in the snow

2019-03-08 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
no comparison between "all season" and real schnee tars.  Blizzaks have a Metzler heritage and are available at tar rack prices (ask for price match) at your local farstone dealer.  They are available at competitive prices similar to a low-mid to mid range summer tar.    hakkas are big bucks.

Re: [MBZ] reminded tonight how bad old diesels are in the snow

2019-03-08 Thread Jim Cathey via Mercedes
> how is the BMW in the snow? In fact, it would be my _first_ choice from our stable when going into harm's way. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:

Re: [MBZ] reminded tonight how bad old diesels are in the snow

2019-03-08 Thread Jim Cathey via Mercedes
The AWD X5, 2006, with studded Hakkapeliittas on all four corners, has been _excellent_ in the snow. Our dissatisfaction with this car has nothing to do with its functionality, and everything to do with its insatiable appetite for money. (Comparatively speaking.) -- Jim

Re: [MBZ] reminded tonight how bad old diesels are in the snow

2019-03-08 Thread Clay Monroe via Mercedes
how is the BMW in the snow? clay monroe > I turned my computer upside down and shook it, but the bookmark for what I'm > looking for didn't fall out. > On Mar 8, 2019, at 7:18 AM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes > wrote: > >>> Need better tires and some weight in the back. > > This utterly

Re: [MBZ] reminded tonight how bad old diesels are in the snow

2019-03-08 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Where is this? On Fri, Mar 8, 2019 at 4:23 PM Clay Monroe via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Well, that changes the optics of my dragging the SD up here once I get a > fresh engine in her. Temps are just getting past freezing, the streets are > beginning to get slushy. I get to

Re: [MBZ] reminded tonight how bad old diesels are in the snow

2019-03-08 Thread Clay Monroe via Mercedes
Well, that changes the optics of my dragging the SD up here once I get a fresh engine in her. Temps are just getting past freezing, the streets are beginning to get slushy. I get to walk the dog. One road has massive divots in the six inches of ice on the road where either the garbage truck

Re: [MBZ] reminded tonight how bad old diesels are in the snow

2019-03-08 Thread Allan Streib via Mercedes
Yes, admittedly the tires are not suitable for snow. They aren't old, but they are your standard "all season" touring tread and are doing nothing in the snow. Didn't buy snow tires for it this winter because I hadn't even planned on driving it. I like to keep it out of the salt. But circumstances

Re: [MBZ] reminded tonight how bad old diesels are in the snow

2019-03-08 Thread Jim Cathey via Mercedes
>> Need better tires and some weight in the back. This utterly transformed my death-trap Camaro. 200# of sand over the drive wheels was what I used. And in a pinch you could always slice open a tube and throw some under the wheels. I use(d) Nokian Hakkapeliittas on the Frankenheap W115 200D,

Re: [MBZ] reminded tonight how bad old diesels are in the snow

2019-03-08 Thread Craig via Mercedes
On Fri, 8 Mar 2019 15:18:59 + (UTC) Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote: > Need better tires and some weight in the back. I will concur with the need for better tires -- those which have a least the mountain and snowflake symbol on them. When I got our '94 E420, it had Yokohama tires on it

Re: [MBZ] reminded tonight how bad old diesels are in the snow

2019-03-08 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
Need better tires and some weight in the back. My 240Ds and 190Ds never let me down or left me stuck. My '85 190D once drove home in an epic snowstorm, I was climbing one big hill with a Toyota 4x4 next to me crab walking in 4wd with 4 wheels spinning. I had just gotten snow tires on the 190D

Re: [MBZ] reminded tonight how bad old diesels are in the snow

2019-03-07 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
you need Blizzaks on the rear at least, and one sand tune on each side in the trunk.  you will be AMAZED!   MY diesels will go ANYWHERE in schnee/blizzard conditions, and have for lots of year and lots of  miles. When I drove long distances almost every day in all conditions, I put Blizzaks

Re: [MBZ] reminded tonight how bad old diesels are in the snow

2019-03-07 Thread G Mann via Mercedes
Time to install sand bags in the trunk, along with tire chains for drive wheels. In the old days, when I lived in snow and cold country with pick up trucks [empty truck beds have no load weight over drive wheels] always carried sand bags stacked behind wheel wells in bed of truck, Ratchet straps

[MBZ] reminded tonight how bad old diesels are in the snow

2019-03-07 Thread Allan Streib via Mercedes
Too much torque, weight all in the front. Had maybe 1" or 2" of snow, could not get home in the 300SD. Stranded at the bottom of the hill about 1/2 mile from my house. Had to have the boy come in the Frontier with a tow chain to pull me up. Rear wheels were spinning at idle. Need to pay more