Re: [MBZ] 1982 240D TURBO, YES TURBO

2005-11-01 Thread Steve MacSween
list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, October 30, 2005 8:07 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1982 240D TURBO, YES TURBO I want another 240D...I am in the NEWhat is the asking price? Mike - Original Message - From: Tom Scordato [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL

Re: [MBZ] 1982 240D TURBO, YES TURBO

2005-11-01 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
PROTECTED] To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, October 30, 2005 8:07 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1982 240D TURBO, YES TURBO I want another 240D...I am in the NEWhat is the asking price? Mike - Original Message - From: Tom Scordato [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes mailing

Re: [MBZ] 1982 240D TURBO, YES TURBO

2005-11-01 Thread Steve MacSween
: Re: [MBZ] 1982 240D TURBO, YES TURBO I want another 240D...I am in the NEWhat is the asking price? Mike - Original Message - From: Tom Scordato [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, October 30, 2005 7:59 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ

Re: [MBZ] 1982 240D TURBO, YES TURBO

2005-11-01 Thread Fmiser
rumor has it that Steve wrote: What I wrote: The reason for recalibrating the pump up is to squirt enough extra fuel into the cylinder to make full use of the extra air that's being pumped in. What you wrote: Also, unless the pump was removed and recalibrated up to compensate for the

Re: [MBZ] 1982 240D TURBO, YES TURBO

2005-11-01 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
: Sunday, October 30, 2005 8:07 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1982 240D TURBO, YES TURBO I want another 240D...I am in the NEWhat is the asking price? Mike - Original Message - From: Tom Scordato [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, October 30

Re: [MBZ] 1982 240D TURBO, YES TURBO

2005-10-31 Thread redghost
Well, I for one am willing to try supercharging Gump. I figure an inverter and commercial blow drier will suffice. On Sunday, October 30, 2005, at 03:25 PM, Sunil Hari wrote: If the car was intended to have more power, the Mercedes engineers would have put it there. On 10/30/05, Marshall

Re: [MBZ] 1982 240D TURBO, YES TURBO

2005-10-31 Thread Marshall Booth
Hendrik Riessen wrote: My question is why would MB want to turbo the 240D? I would think that a turboed version would use the same amount of fuel as a 300D if not more. The only reason I can think of is in commercial applications where there is not enough room for the 5 cylinder motor but more

Re: [MBZ] 1982 240D TURBO, YES TURBO

2005-10-31 Thread OK Don
I once saw the changes made to the 617 when the turbo was added. I can't find the article now, but IIRC, it included strengthened crank and rods, oil spray under the pistons for cooling, and sodium cooled valve stems. I could be wrong, it's been a long time (1981?). The 616 engine won't many, if

Re: [MBZ] 1982 240D TURBO, YES TURBO

2005-10-31 Thread redghost
Then I will have to cut into the exhaust and fit the blow drier closer to the manifold. Might have to get the stainless model to survive the heat. On Sunday, October 30, 2005, at 04:26 PM, OK Don wrote: Since a Diesel supplies more air than needed, and adds the right amount of fuel, maybe

Re: [MBZ] 1982 240D TURBO, YES TURBO

2005-10-31 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
there is not enough room for the 5 cylinder motor but more power was required. Hendrik - Original Message - From: Marshall Booth [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, October 31, 2005 9:42 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1982 240D TURBO, YES TURBO Tom

Re: [MBZ] 1982 240D TURBO, YES TURBO

2005-10-31 Thread OK Don
No - I meant use the blowing exhaust instead of the blow drier -- Perpetual motion like -- - On 10/30/05, redghost [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Then I will have to cut into the exhaust and fit the blow drier closer to the manifold. Might have to get the stainless model to survive the heat. --

Re: [MBZ] 1982 240D TURBO, YES TURBO

2005-10-31 Thread Rick Knoble
OK Don wrote The C111 was used as a test bed for the turbo charged 617 engine. They established several speed and duration records, and learned a lot with that car. Too bad they seem to have forgotten much since then ... Rick Knoble 1985 300 CD

Re: [MBZ] 1982 240D TURBO, YES TURBO

2005-10-31 Thread redghost
h, I do not want to lower Gump's power. EGR is a bad thing, since I would have to engineer a way to put a BB in to block the valve. Will just stick with the blow drier idea On Sunday, October 30, 2005, at 04:49 PM, Marshall Booth wrote: OK Don wrote: Since a Diesel supplies more air

Re: [MBZ] 1982 240D TURBO, YES TURBO

2005-10-31 Thread redghost
I do not know that the FSM would approve. If he were to touch it with his noodley appendage, then I could consider that. Right now the exhaust just blows into the cabin. May be better to route it back through the manifold On Sunday, October 30, 2005, at 04:42 PM, OK Don wrote: No - I

Re: [MBZ] 1982 240D TURBO, YES TURBO

2005-10-31 Thread Marshall Booth
Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: why would it use more fuel all other things being equal? The amount of fuel used in this series of engines depends almost entirely on the amount of work done. The different versions don't change efficiency much. Turbo the engine so it produces a little more power and

Re: [MBZ] 1982 240D TURBO, YES TURBO

2005-10-31 Thread Tom Scordato
: redghost [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, October 30, 2005 7:43 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1982 240D TURBO, YES TURBO h, I do not want to lower Gump's power. EGR is a bad thing, since I would have to engineer a way to put a BB in to block the valve

Re: [MBZ] 1982 240D TURBO, YES TURBO

2005-10-31 Thread Mike Canfield
I want another 240D...I am in the NEWhat is the asking price? Mike - Original Message - From: Tom Scordato [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, October 30, 2005 7:59 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1982 240D TURBO, YES TURBO Boy thanks

Re: [MBZ] 1982 240D TURBO, YES TURBO

2005-10-31 Thread Marshall Booth
Rick Knoble wrote: OK Don wrote The C111 was used as a test bed for the turbo charged 617 engine. They established several speed and duration records, and learned a lot with that car. Too bad they seem to have forgotten much since then ... Rick Knoble 1985 300 CD Well they HAVE since

Re: [MBZ] 1982 240D TURBO, YES TURBO

2005-10-31 Thread Dave M.
] Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1982 240D TURBO, YES TURBO The crazy Finns make claims of improved mileage and double power from 60x engines with larger turbos and intercoolers.

Re: [MBZ] 1982 240D TURBO, YES TURBO

2005-10-31 Thread l02turner
Sounds like turbocharging a 240D is not a viable solution. I would think putting a 300D turbo engine in the 240D - assuming you have a 240D and want more power from it - would be more practical. I suspect there's plenty of used engines around - Sincerely, Larry T (78 240D) A Blood Test

Re: [MBZ] 1982 240D TURBO, YES TURBO

2005-10-31 Thread Marshall Booth
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sounds like turbocharging a 240D is not a viable solution. I would think putting a 300D turbo engine in the 240D - assuming you have a 240D and want more power from it - would be more practical. I suspect there's plenty of used engines around - It's even more

Re: [MBZ] 1982 240D TURBO, YES TURBO

2005-10-31 Thread Fmiser
rumor has it that Steve wrote: 2. Was the four banger designed to allow and run properly witht his type of adder. **snip** Also, unless the pump was removed and recalibrated up to compensate for the additional fuel demand from the turbocharging, the engine will be under-fueled and

Re: [MBZ] 1982 240D TURBO, YES TURBO

2005-10-31 Thread Steve MacSween
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The reason for recalibrating the pump up is to squirt enough extra fuel into the cylinder to make full use of the extra air that's being pumped in. And that differs from what I said, in what respect? Mac

Re: [MBZ] 1982 240D TURBO, YES TURBO

2005-10-31 Thread Mike Canfield
: Sunday, October 30, 2005 8:07 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1982 240D TURBO, YES TURBO I want another 240D...I am in the NEWhat is the asking price? Mike - Original Message - From: Tom Scordato [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, October 30, 2005 7

Re: [MBZ] 1982 240D TURBO, YES TURBO

2005-10-31 Thread Kevin
On Mon, Oct 31, 2005 at 02:53:32AM -0500, Steve MacSween wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The reason for recalibrating the pump up is to squirt enough extra fuel into the cylinder to make full use of the extra air that's being pumped in. And that differs from what I said, in what

Re: [MBZ] 1982 240D TURBO, YES TURBO

2005-10-30 Thread Mike Canfield
Tom, I don't know much about it other than you should pass it up and tell me how to contact the owner right awayLOLOL..I loved my 240DA turbo would have made it near perfect! Mike - Original Message - From: Tom Scordato [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL

Re: [MBZ] 1982 240D TURBO, YES TURBO

2005-10-30 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
it would be aftermarket unless its a euro model. Aftermarket turbos will blow the engine up sooner rather than later. Tom Scordato wrote: I have a line on a 1982 240D that I may be interested in. It has a turbo on it. Owner who is the original says it was put on I believe after market. 1.

Re: [MBZ] 1982 240D TURBO, YES TURBO

2005-10-30 Thread Sunil Hari
If the car was intended to have more power, the Mercedes engineers would have put it there. On 10/30/05, Marshall Booth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tom Scordato wrote: I have a line on a 1982 240D that I may be interested in. It has a turbo on it. Owner who is the original says it was put on