Re: [MBZ] 300SD Morning Scare

2012-07-10 Thread Randy Bennell
On 09/07/2012 5:12 PM, Dimitri Seretakis wrote: I have no tolerance for Lexus:) Never will. Toyota as a company irks me. My three most hated cars: 1. Lexus (all models) 2. Prius 3. Camry I have to say I am more or less neutral on Lexus. Don't want one. Don't really care one way ot t'oher.

Re: [MBZ] 300SD Morning Scare

2012-07-10 Thread Dan Penoff
Couldn't you lump Honda Civics in with the Camrys? They are just as endemic... Dan On Jul 10, 2012, at 11:53 AM, Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca wrote: On 09/07/2012 5:12 PM, Dimitri Seretakis wrote: I have no tolerance for Lexus:) Never will. Toyota as a company irks me. My three most

Re: [MBZ] 300SD Morning Scare

2012-07-10 Thread Dimitri Seretakis
I'm not a fan of any Japanese or Korean cars but Toyota takes the cake. After their recent safety issues and subsequent attempted denial and cover-up of these issues I'm really turned off. The whole Lexus copycating MB and BMW styling and then surpassing MB in sales really angers me. Honda

Re: [MBZ] 300SD Morning Scare

2012-07-10 Thread Dan Penoff
Points well taken, but if I understand correctly (and if I don't I am sure someone will take me to task) hasn't Hyundai done rather well in the owner satisfaction category? Dan On Jul 10, 2012, at 12:11 PM, Dimitri Seretakis dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: I'm not a fan of any Japanese or Korean

Re: [MBZ] 300SD Morning Scare

2012-07-09 Thread andrew strasfogel
My son experienced two 300SD overheating snafus, cooking the engine in the process both times. Each time the cause was a cracked plastic radiator neck, while he was driving fast on the h'way and didn't notice in time. Since then he was switched to Miatas, Subaru Outbacks, and most recently a

Re: [MBZ] 300SD Morning Scare

2012-07-09 Thread Randy Bennell
On 09/07/2012 11:05 AM, Rich Thomas wrote: So this morning mama rings me a 4:26AM (don't ask) and in fumbling for the phone I did not get the call. Try to call her like 6 times, then a voice mail pops up, she says the car is dead, was smoking bad, would not start again after stopping. Anyway

Re: [MBZ] 300SD Morning Scare

2012-07-09 Thread Randy Bennell
On 09/07/2012 11:13 AM, andrew strasfogel wrote: My son experienced two 300SD overheating snafus, cooking the engine in the process both times. Each time the cause was a cracked plastic radiator neck, while he was driving fast on the h'way and didn't notice in time. Since then he was switched

Re: [MBZ] 300SD Morning Scare

2012-07-09 Thread Rich Thomas
I was thinking about that when she told me she did not see a red warning light. I should try to rig something up, just a little temp sensor and a buzzer/light or something. --R On 7/9/12 12:19 PM, Randy Bennell wrote: On 09/07/2012 11:13 AM, andrew strasfogel wrote: My son experienced two

Re: [MBZ] 300SD Morning Scare

2012-07-09 Thread Max Dillon
OM617, right? Maybe Andrew still has one? -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300, '87 300TD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery

Re: [MBZ] 300SD Morning Scare

2012-07-09 Thread Dan Penoff
The problem with the typical temperature sensor is that when it is in free air, it doesn't work. It had to be in contact with the liquid to be measured. Case in point: When I was at Kohler we started using Ford industrial engines on our small (100kW) gas units. Unfortunately, some of the units

Re: [MBZ] 300SD Morning Scare

2012-07-09 Thread Randy Bennell
How about some form of water pressure sensor? One would think that when the level drops, the pump would not be putting out full pressure due to air/cavitation etc? Or a temperature sensor located lower on the block? If fluid is not moving well, one would think the temperature would rise?

Re: [MBZ] 300SD Morning Scare

2012-07-09 Thread Dan Penoff
Good thinking, but wouldn't you have pressure even in the instance of low coolant level? Dan On Jul 9, 2012, at 2:30 PM, Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca wrote: How about some form of water pressure sensor? One would think that when the level drops, the pump would not be putting out full

Re: [MBZ] 300SD Morning Scare

2012-07-09 Thread Rich Thomas
OK the good news is that mama smelled something when she shut the car off, then saw the smoke so I figure it had not yet drained completely and was still cooling some so no damage. One hopes. On the temp sensor, would not it be best to put some sort of contact thermothingie on the head

Re: [MBZ] 300SD Morning Scare

2012-07-09 Thread Fmiser
Randy Bennell wrote: How about some form of water pressure sensor? One would think that when the level drops, the pump would not be putting out full pressure due to air/cavitation etc? Pressure in the system comes from the heat. I don't think that would work dependably. Or a temperature

Re: [MBZ] 300SD Morning Scare

2012-07-09 Thread Dimitri Seretakis
Lexus. Ughh:( Sent from my iPhone On Jul 9, 2012, at 12:13 PM, andrew strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: My son experienced two 300SD overheating snafus, cooking the engine in the process both times. Each time the cause was a cracked plastic radiator neck, while he was driving fast on the

Re: [MBZ] 300SD Morning Scare

2012-07-09 Thread Randy Bennell
On 09/07/2012 2:55 PM, Dimitri Seretakis wrote: Lexus. Ughh:( Sent from my iPhone Well, my recollection is that there was a Lexus that looked a lot like an MB so the styling was OK. Toyota used to have a good mechanical reputation so if the one that looks like an MB came from that era, it

Re: [MBZ] 300SD Morning Scare

2012-07-09 Thread andrew strasfogel
I sold my engine to a dude from VA for $325. )) On Mon, Jul 9, 2012 at 12:30 PM, Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net wrote: OM617, right? Maybe Andrew still has one? -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300, '87 300TD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new

Re: [MBZ] 300SD Morning Scare

2012-07-09 Thread andrew strasfogel
You must learn to be more tolerant, Dimitri. I felt the same way until I read the road test report. On Mon, Jul 9, 2012 at 3:55 PM, Dimitri Seretakis dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: Lexus. Ughh:( Sent from my iPhone On Jul 9, 2012, at 12:13 PM, andrew strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote:

Re: [MBZ] 300SD Morning Scare

2012-07-09 Thread Dimitri Seretakis
I have no tolerance for Lexus:) Never will. Toyota as a company irks me. My three most hated cars: 1. Lexus (all models) 2. Prius 3. Camry Sent from my iPhone On Jul 9, 2012, at 5:48 PM, andrew strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: You must learn to be more tolerant, Dimitri. I felt the

Re: [MBZ] 300SD Morning Scare

2012-07-09 Thread Scott Ritchey
I'd just replace the pump and hope for the best. The pump is just a relatively small flange with the impeller on the inside and the pulley on the outside, Inside the flange is the bearing and the seal. There is weep hole on the bottom to let coolant out in case the seal starts to leak. These

Re: [MBZ] 300SD Morning Scare

2012-07-09 Thread Curt Raymond
running it to see what happens. Even then in a nice-ish car its still probably worth fixing. -Curt Date: Mon, 9 Jul 2012 19:41:13 -0400 From: Scott Ritchey ritche...@nc.rr.com To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] 300SD Morning Scare Message-ID