Re: [MBZ] Ethanol-free gasoline

2013-09-10 Thread clay
Well that is handy. I will fuel up Frosch there. No need to screw her up with corn spirits. It is nice that the pump is about a mile away. clay On Sep 9, 2013, at 3:59 PM, Craig wrote: For those of you who want ethanol-free gasoline for your MB or small power equipment:

Re: [MBZ] Ethanol-free gasoline

2013-09-09 Thread Dan Penoff
I'm in the process of changing over to top-tier fuel suppliers to see if it makes a difference in my fuel economy. I have plenty of Mobil stations in the area, but they rip you off on the cash or credit surcharge. There is a Shell relatively close that I'm going to use from now on. I'm on my

Re: [MBZ] ethanol

2012-01-23 Thread RELNGSON
...You certainly are silent about ethanol, a subject about which you know nothing... I know quite a bit because I belong to a group that has done considrable research on the subject. But, I have no vested interest in it, unlike yourself. RLE ___

Re: [MBZ] ethanol

2012-01-23 Thread Dieselhead
BZZT Wrong again. I have no vested or unvested financial interest in ethanol industry. I do believe in attempting to set the record straight with facts when facts are not involved with a diatribe. We all have an interest in availability and price of fuels, since we all use fuel. I

Re: [MBZ] ethanol

2011-11-19 Thread RELNGSON
..RLE/Seattle, who has been drining too much MTBE... Pretty hard to be drining MTBE when it's never been used in Washington State. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives

Re: [MBZ] Ethanol could be risk in U.S. pipelines

2011-08-09 Thread G Mann
The relationship of the American Citizen and Congress [and apparently every other citizen with their Government worldwide] is on parallel with a marriage where one spouse finds to late the other spouse is a drug addict with a gambling habit, and has lost or blown the entire net worth of the

Re: [MBZ] Ethanol could be risk in U.S. pipelines

2011-08-09 Thread Dan Penoff
I like this. Where can I get one? Dan Sent from my iPhone On Aug 9, 2011, at 12:55 PM, G Mann The bumper sticker on back of my 300SD says Charlie Sheen / Leslie Lohan 2012 Country is going to hell, elect a team that knows the way ___

Re: [MBZ] Ethanol could be risk in U.S. pipelines

2011-08-09 Thread astrasfogel
: Re: [MBZ] Ethanol could be risk in U.S. pipelines But the US government is -- TOO BIG TO FAIL. hahahahahaha The Chinese economy would crash if can't buy all their crap. They won;t let it happen. On Mon, Aug 8, 2011 at 10:52 PM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: And don't forget they just

Re: [MBZ] Ethanol could be risk in U.S. pipelines

2011-08-09 Thread G Mann
Dan, I have a local guy that will make one off bumper stickers. That's where I had this one made. I'm sure he would be very happy to make as many as wanted. The one of a kind cost me about $20... but it suited my twisted sense of humor, so I gave myself a treat. ;)) Grant... Gas is something you

Re: [MBZ] Ethanol could be risk in U.S. pipelines

2011-08-09 Thread andrew strasfogel
I can get you any number of Obama 2012 bumper stickers for free. ;) On Tue, Aug 9, 2011 at 3:26 PM, G Mann g2ma...@gmail.com wrote: Dan, I have a local guy that will make one off bumper stickers. That's where I had this one made. I'm sure he would be very happy to make as many as wanted.

Re: [MBZ] Ethanol could be risk in U.S. pipelines

2011-08-09 Thread Mitch Haley
andrew strasfogel wrote: I can get you any number of Obama 2012 bumper stickers for free. ;) Should be interesting to see who the Dem nominee is. Unlike 1980, challengers won't be put off by the president quietly muttering Chappaquiddick. Mitch. ___

Re: [MBZ] Ethanol could be risk in U.S. pipelines

2011-08-09 Thread Walt Zarnoch
Leslie? Thought it was Lindsy? Walt, who thinks people shouldn't get special treatment because there's a box-office flop with their name in the credits... On Aug 9, 2011 3:26 PM, G Mann g2ma...@gmail.com wrote: Dan, I have a local guy that will make one off bumper stickers. That's where I had

Re: [MBZ] Ethanol could be risk in U.S. pipelines

2011-08-09 Thread G Mann
AHHhh. same result... different candidate.. love the irony. Send me a few trillion. Either way, next diesel I shop for will have armor and riot control gear most likely. Is there a forum for those vehicles? ;)) On Tue, Aug 9, 2011 at 2:27 PM, andrew strasfogel

Re: [MBZ] Ethanol could be risk in U.S. pipelines

2011-08-08 Thread Larry T
g2ma...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Saturday, August 6, 2011 10:12:43 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Ethanol could be risk in U.S. pipelines Nothing in politics happens by accident. I'll put my bets in that even the SP downgrade was pre-planned. We are being

Re: [MBZ] Ethanol could be risk in U.S. pipelines

2011-08-08 Thread G Mann
: G Mann g2ma...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Saturday, August 6, 2011 10:12:43 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Ethanol could be risk in U.S. pipelines Nothing in politics happens by accident. I'll put my bets in that even the SP downgrade was pre-planned. We

Re: [MBZ] Ethanol could be risk in U.S. pipelines

2011-08-08 Thread Lee
g2ma...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Saturday, August 6, 2011 10:12:43 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Ethanol could be risk in U.S. pipelines Nothing in politics happens by accident. I'll put my bets in that even the SP downgrade was pre-planned. We are being played like

Re: [MBZ] Ethanol could be risk in U.S. pipelines

2011-08-08 Thread Larry
for the rant - I am very angry - our representatives don't deserve the name. LarryT 91 300D -Original Message- From: G Mann Sent: Monday, August 08, 2011 10:13 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Ethanol could be risk in U.S. pipelines Watching politics in action these days

Re: [MBZ] Ethanol could be risk in U.S. pipelines

2011-08-08 Thread Larry
- Skunk maybe - but the skunks would be offended. And rightly so... LarryT 91 300D -Original Message- From: Lee Sent: Monday, August 08, 2011 10:41 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Ethanol could be risk in U.S. pipelines Yep. Just saw a bar graph published July 27

Re: [MBZ] Ethanol could be risk in U.S. pipelines

2011-08-08 Thread Rolf
www.youroil.net For Inexpensive Oil Test Kits! - Original Message - From: G Mann g2ma...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Saturday, August 6, 2011 10:12:43 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Ethanol could be risk in U.S. pipelines Nothing in politics happens by accident. I'll

Re: [MBZ] Ethanol could be risk in U.S. pipelines

2011-08-08 Thread Luther's Benz
- gt;gt; From: G Mann lt;g2ma...@gmail.comgt; gt;gt; To: Mercedes Discussion List lt;mercedes@okiebenz.comgt; gt;gt; Sent: Saturday, August 6, 2011 10:12:43 PM gt;gt; Subject: Re: [MBZ] Ethanol could be risk in U.S. pipelines gt;gt; gt;gt; Nothing in politics happens by accident. gt;gt

Re: [MBZ] Ethanol could be risk in U.S. pipelines

2011-08-08 Thread Allan Streib
Luther's Benz benz-n-h...@gulseth.net writes: Foreclosure? nbsp;Search on Google for home loan documents missing and you will find that when some banks sold mortgages electronically, they failed to transfer the title paperwork. nbsp;If pressed for the paperwork, the banks might not be able to

Re: [MBZ] Ethanol could be risk in U.S. pipelines

2011-08-08 Thread Mitch Haley
Allan Streib wrote: The liens I've seen are in terms of So and So Bank, its succesors and/or assigns so even if they didn't update the lien when they sold the mortgage it would likely still hold up in a foreclosure. Only if they could prove a lawful assignment. Many states the law requires

Re: [MBZ] Ethanol could be risk in U.S. pipelines

2011-08-08 Thread Hans Neureiter
I don't talk politics, religieon and other personal issues in a bar and any other public place. But Snce all the above is correct I cant pass. We are a conglomeration of idiots'es'es thinking to be clever'er'er. Sorry. We (you all and myself) didn't write the Constitution. But all uf us, including

Re: [MBZ] Ethanol could be risk in U.S. pipelines

2011-08-08 Thread rogerhga
From what I've read in following this, yes, you might not get foreclosed by the bank/mortgage company because they can't produce the proper paperwork, BUT, it seems that you can't get a title to the property either. So, you can stay and leave it to your heirs, but not sell it. At least that's

Re: [MBZ] Ethanol could be risk in U.S. pipelines

2011-08-08 Thread Mountain Man
Lee wrote: What wasn't on the bar graph? The bailout to the Wall Street banksters. The GAO investigated it, over the shrill protests of the Bernanke, and found that it cost 16 trillion dollars, nearly twice the cost of our several wars, the Bush tax cuts, all of our domestic spending and the

Re: [MBZ] Ethanol could be risk in U.S. pipelines

2011-08-08 Thread John Freer
http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Total_Wall_Street_Bailout_Cost On Mon, Aug 8, 2011 at 6:11 PM, Mountain Man maontin@gmail.com wrote: Lee wrote: What wasn't on the bar graph? The bailout to the Wall Street banksters. The GAO investigated it, over the shrill protests of the

Re: [MBZ] Ethanol could be risk in U.S. pipelines

2011-08-08 Thread Lee
Read about it here - http://sanders.senate.gov/newsroom/news/?id=9e2a4ea8-6e73-4be2-a753-62060dcbb3c3 There was some serious sleight of hand going on with the Wall Street Boys and their cronies in Washington, and it hasn't been easy to trace as I understand it. The Bloomberg report ended up

Re: [MBZ] Ethanol could be risk in U.S. pipelines

2011-08-08 Thread Craig
On Mon, 8 Aug 2011 13:12:04 -0400 Larry l02tur...@comcast.net wrote: They don't seem to understand the SP reaction - it's the same as those who would like to see spending cut, the same people who know it's not possible to spend your way out of debt. The TP is made up of Republicans,

Re: [MBZ] Ethanol could be risk in U.S. pipelines

2011-08-08 Thread Dieselhead
And don't forget they just bought another credit card and charged another $40,000 on it last week. I read in the past week that the U.S. can be likened to a family that makes $48,000 per year, but that spends $75,000 per year. With the latest big belt-tightening, the family is now spending

Re: [MBZ] Ethanol could be risk in U.S. pipelines

2011-08-08 Thread OK Don
But the US government is -- TOO BIG TO FAIL. hahahahahaha The Chinese economy would crash if can't buy all their crap. They won;t let it happen. On Mon, Aug 8, 2011 at 10:52 PM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: And don't forget they just bought another credit card and charged another

Re: [MBZ] Ethanol could be risk in U.S. pipelines

2011-08-06 Thread Curt Raymond
to find people stupid enough to try farming. -Curt Date: Fri, 5 Aug 2011 18:58:49 -0700 From: G Mann g2ma...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Ethanol could be risk in U.S. pipelines Message-ID: cantulyhc5wuc-3ynp55zrsxct2q60jhbwrpw678g+wqg437

Re: [MBZ] Ethanol could be risk in U.S. pipelines

2011-08-06 Thread Mountain Man
OK Don wrote: Like many other things - follow the money. Last I heard, the industry was driving the ethanol mandate, congress just did what they were paid to do. Ya, well... Not to be too partisan here, the reality is that all the games DC has been playing with large dollar amounts did nothing

Re: [MBZ] Ethanol could be risk in U.S. pipelines

2011-08-06 Thread Mountain Man
Curt wrote: Theres no shortage of ground available for food production, nobody is renting my farm for instance but our addiction to cheap food has kept food prices so low for so long its hard to find people stupid enough to try farming. Have you considered Community Supported Agriculture

Re: [MBZ] Ethanol could be risk in U.S. pipelines

2011-08-06 Thread G Mann
Nothing in politics happens by accident. I'll put my bets in that even the SP downgrade was pre-planned. We are being played like a cheap trick by master manipulators on a scale to large be understood. The Modes Operands is always as follows: Manufactured Problem Orchestrated Reaction Planned

Re: [MBZ] Ethanol could be risk in U.S. pipelines

2011-08-06 Thread Mountain Man
Grant wrote: The Modes Operands is always as follows: Manufactured Problem Orchestrated Reaction Planned Solution All actions to the benefit of the criminal grifters who have seized power. This has been the manner for all incidents for a hundred+ years. Yep - I *do* feel raped. mao

Re: [MBZ] Ethanol could be risk in U.S. pipelines

2011-08-05 Thread Michael Canfield
utilized as a gasoline additive for its oxygen content and octane rating Now that is an interesting statement. I say bullshit. Mike On Aug 4, 2011 10:38 PM, relng...@aol.com wrote: Ethanol could be risk in U.S. pipelines by Staff Writers Washington (UPI) Aug 3, 2011 Plans to use existing

Re: [MBZ] Ethanol could be risk in U.S. pipelines

2011-08-05 Thread Allan Streib
One of the reasons it was added was to add oxygen to the fuel to achieve reduced CO emission. I don't know how it might affect octane rating, which is an indicator of resistance to pre-ignition. Originally MBTE was used until it was discovered that it has a tendency to contaminate

Re: [MBZ] Ethanol could be risk in U.S. pipelines

2011-08-05 Thread Mountain Man
Allan wrote: Originally MBTE was used until it was discovered that it has a tendency to contaminate groundwater/drinking water as a result of spills and leaky storage tanks and pipelines.  Ethanol then became the favored additive for oxygenation. The industry has gotten smarter. Today,

Re: [MBZ] Ethanol could be risk in U.S. pipelines

2011-08-05 Thread MG
as an octane booster. Manfred Date: Fri, 5 Aug 2011 10:41:29 -0400 From: Michael Canfield slozuk...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Ethanol could be risk in U.S. pipelines Message-ID: CALHJ_1Bg2Rmjq+H6c-yd+jS3g=bk07mn6tlz8qnpqoqmgos

Re: [MBZ] Ethanol could be risk in U.S. pipelines

2011-08-05 Thread G Mann
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Re: [MBZ] Ethanol could be risk in U.S. pipelines

2011-08-05 Thread OK Don
Like many other things - follow the money. Last I heard, the industry was driving the ethanol mandate, congress just did what they were paid to do. On Fri, Aug 5, 2011 at 8:58 PM, G Mann g2ma...@gmail.com wrote: It is yet another government mandated, poorly planned, poorly executed, burden on

Re: [MBZ] Ethanol, again

2010-11-30 Thread Mountain Man
OK Don wrote: This will be the downfall of the USA. I think you are wrong. I think this *was* the downfall of the USA. There is zero desire or movement away from listening to jazz about black friday / cyber monday - we love the palliative. We are dupes, we know that, and we do not want to

Re: [MBZ] Ethanol, again

2010-11-30 Thread OK Don
The news media is only an extension of Madison Ave. It is neither liberal nor conservative - it is advertising, should to the highest bidder. the market always wins! On Tue, Nov 30, 2010 at 10:42 AM, Mountain Man maontin@gmail.comwrote: OK Don wrote: This will be the downfall of the USA.

Re: [MBZ] Ethanol, again

2010-11-30 Thread Mountain Man
OK Don wrote: The news media is only an extension of Madison Ave. It is neither liberal nor conservative - it is advertising, should to the highest bidder. the market always wins! Agreed. You have made my point. We have already passed a point of recovery. We are a dead nation, pure and simple.

Re: [MBZ] Ethanol, again

2010-11-29 Thread Dieselhead
Fact check please 1. though we've been hearing that advanced ethanol is just a year or two away from viability for two decades. WRONG. Cellulosic ethanol is here now. The first plants are in design and construction phase. The technology has been licensed by brazil, and is being

Re: [MBZ] Ethanol, again

2010-11-29 Thread Mountain Man
Dieselhead wrote: I agree, gummit meddling messes up the markets, but if you want to stop the meddling, lets get the gummit out of ALL the markets, including gas and oil, food, and more. Social Security, standing army, healthcare - the three third-rail items also. mao

Re: [MBZ] Ethanol, again

2010-11-29 Thread Dieselhead
SocSec and healthcare I agree the gummit has no business in. However, defense is one of the few things besides tariffs the gummit IS authorized to do by the constitution. Dieselhead wrote: I agree, gummit meddling messes up the markets, but if you want to stop the meddling, lets get the

Re: [MBZ] Ethanol, again

2010-11-29 Thread OK Don
Madison Ave., regardless of who they are working for, distorts markets more than anyone else -- most people beleive what they are told and don't check the facts. This will be the downfall of the USA. On Mon, Nov 29, 2010 at 8:07 AM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: BTW, wall street

Re: [MBZ] Ethanol in the Glorious People's Premium ?

2010-08-06 Thread Van Knutson
E M pokieba...@gmail.com  wrote:   I'm in Ontario.  While smoking isn't good for you, I doubt very much the odd cigar will have any negative effect on longevity what so ever.  As you say, in moderation, it's all part of enjoying life. I'm pretty sure cigars, or any tobacco products, are not

Re: [MBZ] Ethanol in the Glorious People's Premium ?

2010-08-05 Thread Van Knutson
LWB250 lwb...@yahoo.com   Nod to the north, Van.  I had a Sprecker with my lunch today.  Yum. I hear that Harley is threatening to move production out of town.  That should be getting the locals worked up. Dan who just got his monthly care package from Bernie's Fine Meats in Port

Re: [MBZ] Ethanol in the Glorious People's Premium ?

2010-08-04 Thread Rich Thomas
Do you run a messenger service too? --R On 8/4/2010 12:37 AM, Van Knutson wrote: DBV wrote: I dream of the day someone in the US has the stones to declare the embargo a waste of time and open trade with the Commies. What do you mean? The commies are our largest debt owner - china

Re: [MBZ] Ethanol in the Glorious People's Premium ?

2010-08-04 Thread OK Don
I like the signs at liquor stores now that say 100% alcohol, no gas! On Tue, Aug 3, 2010 at 10:13 PM, E M pokieba...@gmail.com wrote: Back to wineI think the Italians have it all figured out. last time i was there, a decent bottle of red table wine, cost the same per litre as a litre

Re: [MBZ] Ethanol in the Glorious People's Premium ?

2010-08-04 Thread E M
There was a time here, about 15 years ago, that that sign would have be questioned, if it was in the French wine section. lol. Ed 300E On 4 August 2010 13:03, OK Don okd...@gmail.com wrote: I like the signs at liquor stores now that say 100% alcohol, no gas! On Tue, Aug 3, 2010 at 10:13 PM,

Re: [MBZ] Ethanol in the Glorious People's Premium ?

2010-08-04 Thread Van Knutson
We have minimum beer and wine pricing here.  I remember about 10 years or so years ago, there was a local wine producing, offering a good wine for $3.50 or so a bottle.  Gov said no no to that, much charge at least 7.50 or whatever it was.  It's not the greedy beer and wine producers, it's the gov

Re: [MBZ] Ethanol in the Glorious People's Premium ?

2010-08-04 Thread LWB250
/4/10, Van Knutson southpaw0...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Van Knutson southpaw0...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Ethanol in the Glorious People's Premium ? To: mercedes okiebenz mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Wednesday, August 4, 2010, 4:04 PM You and I have similar smoking habits re: weekends

Re: [MBZ] Ethanol in the Glorious People's Premium ?

2010-08-04 Thread E M
I'm in Ontario. While smoking isn't good for you, I doubt very much the odd cigar will have any negative effect on longevity what so ever. As you say, in moderation, it's all part of enjoying life. I'm pretty sure cigars, or any tobacco products, are not allowed to be mailed within Canada. Now

Re: [MBZ] Ethanol in the Glorious People's Premium ?

2010-08-03 Thread Van Knutson
E M pokieba...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com I mentioned the $1.04 per litre.  We have recently had yet ANOTHER tax added to most things, including gas.  To put it in perspective, when gas is now $1.02 a litre, I jump on it and fill up, as that's somewhat of a

Re: [MBZ] Ethanol in the Glorious People's Premium ?

2010-08-03 Thread Mountain Man
DBV wrote: I dream of the day someone in the US has the stones to declare the embargo a waste of time and open trade with the Commies. What do you mean? The commies are our largest debt owner - china is still communist, no? mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] Ethanol in the Glorious People's Premium ?

2010-08-03 Thread E M
We have minimum beer and wine pricing here. I remember about 10 years or so years ago, there was a local wine producing, offering a good wine for $3.50 or so a bottle. Gov said no no to that, much charge at least 7.50 or whatever it was. It's not the greedy beer and wine producers, it's the gov

Re: [MBZ] Ethanol in the Glorious People's Premium ?

2010-08-03 Thread Van Knutson
DBV wrote: I dream of the day someone in the US has the stones to declare the embargo a waste of time and open trade with the Commies. What do you mean? The commies are our largest debt owner - china is still communist, no? mao *** I'll be impressed with the ChiComs

Re: [MBZ] Ethanol in the Glorious People's Premium ?

2010-08-02 Thread Tim C
In some states it is different. In NC, you don't have to label until you cross 15%, and maybe not even then. Found this helpful list, which may or may not be accurate but at least has been updated in the past year: http://www.fuel-testers.com/state_guide_ethanol_laws.html There is a station

Re: [MBZ] Ethanol in the Glorious People's Premium ?

2010-08-02 Thread E M
In the fuel I use, premium is 100% gas, midgrade is cut with upto to 5%, and regular is cut with up to 10%. Ed 300E On 2 August 2010 08:30, Tim C bb...@crone.us wrote: In some states it is different. In NC, you don't have to label until you cross 15%, and maybe not even then. Found this

Re: [MBZ] Ethanol in the Glorious People's Premium ?

2010-08-02 Thread Mitch Haley
E M wrote: In the fuel I use, premium is 100% gas, midgrade is cut with upto to 5%, and regular is cut with up to 10%. Usually the station has two gas tanks, and mixes the midgrade at the pump, so that makes sense. What doesn't make sense is many states, like Michigan, Indiana, and Ohio, not

Re: [MBZ] Ethanol in the Glorious People's Premium ?

2010-08-02 Thread E M
They label the gas at my station here in Canada, and they also label the cost breakdown of what you're paying per litre. Raw oil, processing, various TAXES, and profits. For anyone who thinks the oil companies make too much money per gallon of gas, read up on what the governments take of that

Re: [MBZ] Ethanol in the Glorious People's Premium ?

2010-08-02 Thread Van Knutson
Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com They label the gas at my station here in Canada, and they also label the cost breakdown of what you're paying per litre.  Raw oil, processing, various TAXES, and profits. For anyone who thinks the oil companies make too much money per gallon of

Re: [MBZ] Ethanol in the Glorious People's Premium ?

2010-08-02 Thread E M
I'll pay attention at next gas up, and post how they break it down here. Regular today, is $1.04 per litre, and diesel a bit less. Up until a few months ago, diesel was equal, or a bit more than regular. Ed 300E, fed the good stuff. ;-) On 2 August 2010 12:17, Van Knutson southpaw0...@yahoo.com

Re: [MBZ] Ethanol in the Glorious People's Premium ?

2010-08-02 Thread Dieselhead
This explains why I am taking the Dogde van to the peoples democratic republic of WI tomorrow. By the time you get to north WI, both gas and Diesel are $0.30/gal higher than the rest of the country. It is cheaper to run the van than the SDL in those conditions. $.57 a gallon is a ridiculous

Re: [MBZ] Ethanol in the Glorious People's Premium ?

2010-08-02 Thread E M
Hee hee, .57 a gallon. Wait til I post some of the taxes we pay here in Canada, per LITRE, not per gallon. We're not Europe, but that's not stopping those in power from trying to tax us like Europeans!! Ed 300E On 2 August 2010 13:16, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: This explains why I

Re: [MBZ] Ethanol in the Glorious People's Premium ?

2010-08-02 Thread Mitch Haley
Van Knutson wrote: Federal (US) tax per gallon is 18.4 cents. It does not appear to discriminate between gas and diesel. Source for all 50 states, not just wisconsin: http://wisconsingasprices.com/tax_info.aspx Federal Excise tax on diesel is 24.4 cents, but I think you can get 6 cents off

Re: [MBZ] Ethanol in the Glorious People's Premium ?

2010-08-02 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
they tax more for diesel in OK as well. Van Knutson wrote: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com They label the gas at my station here in Canada, and they also label the cost breakdown of what you're paying per litre. Raw oil, processing, various TAXES, and profits. For anyone who

Re: [MBZ] Ethanol in the Glorious People's Premium ?

2010-08-02 Thread Van Knutson
E M pokieba...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Hee hee, .57 a gallon.  Wait til I post some of the taxes we pay here in Canada, per LITRE, not per gallon.  We're not Europe, but that's not stopping those in power from trying to tax us like Europeans!! Ed 300E  

Re: [MBZ] Ethanol in the Glorious People's Premium ?

2010-08-02 Thread E M
I mentioned the $1.04 per litre. We have recently had yet ANOTHER tax added to most things, including gas. To put it in perspective, when gas is now $1.02 a litre, I jump on it and fill up, as that's somewhat of a good price! And I did mention that's regular, not the premium stuff, that the

Re: [MBZ] Ethanol or not?

2009-12-30 Thread Robert Bigham
3. Ethanol or not? (Max Dillon) 7. Re: E10 (relng...@aol.com) 8. Re: Fuel for a 103 Vergasser engine? Ethanol or not? (OK Don) -- If they're advertising No ethanol, I suppose it pretty nearly has to be true. Salut!

Re: [MBZ] Ethanol or not?

2009-12-30 Thread Peter Frederick
: [MBZ] Ethanol or not? 3. Ethanol or not? (Max Dillon) 7. Re: E10 (relng...@aol.com) 8. Re: Fuel for a 103 Vergasser engine? Ethanol or not? (OK Don) -- If they're advertising No ethanol, I suppose it pretty nearly has

Re: [MBZ] Ethanol or not in MB engines + Oz Diesels?

2009-12-30 Thread Hendrik Fay
edward_baldh...@earthlink.net Sent: Dec 30, 2009 2:05 PM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Ethanol or not? 3. Ethanol or not? (Max Dillon) 7. Re: E10 (relng...@aol.com) 8. Re: Fuel for a 103 Vergasser engine? Ethanol or not? (OK Don

Re: [MBZ] ethanol industry seeks bigger subsidy

2009-12-14 Thread Dimitri Seretakis
Then we should at least have an option of E10 at the pump. Sent from my iPhone On Dec 14, 2009, at 5:57 PM, L Mark Finch mfi...@katzenfinch.com wrote: An ethanol advocacy group says cars built since 2001 should be able to burn a 15% blend with no problem. That isn't reassuring to those of us

Re: [MBZ] ethanol industry seeks bigger subsidy

2009-12-14 Thread Mitch Haley
Dimitri Seretakis wrote: Then we should at least have an option of E10 at the pump. I want to go back to seeing all pumps plainly labeled. I can run avgas in my chain saws, but any car I own newer than a 1977 Saab shouldn't have leaded gas in it. Mitch.

Re: [MBZ] ethanol industry seeks bigger subsidy

2009-12-14 Thread Allan Streib
L Mark Finch mfi...@katzenfinch.com writes: An ethanol advocacy group says cars built since 2001 should be able to burn a 15% blend with no problem. That isn't reassuring to those of us whose vehicles were manufactured in the 1990s or before. Another reason to stick with the klatta klatta I

Re: [MBZ] ethanol industry seeks bigger subsidy

2009-12-14 Thread Fmiser
Mitch Haley wrote: Dimitri Seretakis wrote: Then we should at least have an option of E10 at the pump. I want to go back to seeing all pumps plainly labeled. I can run avgas in my chain saws, but any car I own newer than a 1977 Saab shouldn't have leaded gas in it. Yeah!! I

Re: [MBZ] Ethanol WAS: I hate small engines

2009-07-06 Thread Loren Faeth
This was a lawnmower/small engine shop. They have them for sale. At 08:49 PM 7/5/2009, you wrote: On Sun, 05 Jul 2009 20:27:36 -0500 Loren Faeth lfa...@leadingchange.com wrote: The guy at the dealer suggested putting a small inline screen in the gas line. So simple, why didn't I think of

Re: [MBZ] Ethanol WAS: I hate small engines

2009-07-05 Thread Craig McCluskey
On Sun, 05 Jul 2009 20:27:36 -0500 Loren Faeth lfa...@leadingchange.com wrote: The guy at the dealer suggested putting a small inline screen in the gas line. So simple, why didn't I think of that? probly because when i was learning engines, the only fuel screens to be found were the car

Re: [MBZ] Ethanol WAS: I hate small engines

2009-07-05 Thread Mitch Haley
Craig McCluskey wrote: Where? At FLAPS? There are genuine Briggs Stratton clear plastic filters with paper elements for under $5 at the small engine shops, or you could just get one from FLAPS if you can find one that fits the fuel line. A OM617 prefilter would be better than nothing.

Re: [MBZ] Ethanol

2009-05-28 Thread Scott Ritchey
' Subject: Re: [MBZ] Ethanol Scott - It has been a few years since I have worked on many of those pumper carbs but as far as adjustments to the needle and seat, the parts that you would call the float valve in a float type carb, when you have it assembled to the point that you can view the needle seat

Re: [MBZ] Ethanol

2009-05-27 Thread Curt Raymond
We get 10% ethanol in all our gas here in New England. Its been that way for 3 or 4 years now. I've never noticed much difference, except: Snowmobiles tend to accumulate moisture in the gas no matter what you do which makes some sense if you consider the environment they exist in.  2 years ago I

Re: [MBZ] Ethanol

2009-05-27 Thread pm7088
the bowl full of 90% fuel. -- Peter Arnold Windsor, CT - Original Message - From: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com To: Diesel List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, May 27, 2009 11:05:59 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [MBZ] Ethanol We get 10% ethanol in all

Re: [MBZ] Ethanol

2009-05-27 Thread LWB250
between seasons. Dan --- On Wed, 5/27/09, pm7...@comcast.net pm7...@comcast.net wrote: From: pm7...@comcast.net pm7...@comcast.net Subject: Re: [MBZ] Ethanol To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Wednesday, May 27, 2009, 11:37 AM My Connecticut lawnmower repair guy tells

Re: [MBZ] Ethanol

2009-05-27 Thread Scott Ritchey
Of LWB250 Sent: Wednesday, May 27, 2009 12:41 To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Ethanol This is nothing new - the RV business used to be a gold mine for us (we don't do RVs anymore - thank G-d!) because people would just park them over the winter and the carbs on the generators would get

Re: [MBZ] Ethanol

2009-05-27 Thread Barry Stark
Scott - It has been a few years since I have worked on many of those pumper carbs but as far as adjustments to the needle and seat, the parts that you would call the float valve in a float type carb, when you have it assembled to the point that you can view the needle seat relationship, the lever

Re: [MBZ] Ethanol

2009-05-27 Thread Curt Raymond
blooded bitch but thats normal) so it must be good stuff. -Curt Date: Wed, 27 May 2009 15:37:03 + (UTC) From: pm7...@comcast.net Subject: Re: [MBZ] Ethanol To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID:     678474217.14295521243438623567.javamail.r

Re: [MBZ] Ethanol

2009-05-27 Thread Curt Raymond
: [MBZ] Ethanol To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: f7db3775d0ff4f208fe25444d3cda...@scottemachine Content-Type: text/plain;    charset=us-ascii I don't think this has that much to do with ethanol but it does seem worse with recent fuels.  With several small engines, I now

Re: [MBZ] Ethanol

2009-05-27 Thread Mountain Man
Curt wrote: What do you use to stabilize your fuel stabilizer? Classic. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:

Re: [MBZ] Ethanol

2008-11-24 Thread Smith, Todd
://www.butanol.com/ -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jim Cathey Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2008 20:50 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Ethanol So why the focus on ethanol? Why not methanol, or any other

Re: [MBZ] Ethanol/Why it works in Brazil/Stolen from OTC Journal

2008-11-20 Thread Tom Hargrave
To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Ethanol/Why it works in Brazil/Stolen from OTC Journal Tom wrote: A lot of the corn stalks are used as feed stock. Convert corn stalks to ethanol and we have to feed our animals something else. Like I said earlier, the problem (and solution

Re: [MBZ] Ethanol

2008-11-20 Thread Jim Cathey
Methanol is a known toxin. Gasoline is worse. Of course methanol is poisonous, but we're already familiar with fuels that one should not bathe in or drink... Methanol is also called wood alcohol, and can be made out of nearly anything. -- Jim ___

Re: [MBZ] Ethanol

2008-11-20 Thread Tom Hargrave
] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jim Cathey Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2008 7:59 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Ethanol Methanol is a known toxin. Gasoline is worse. Of course methanol is poisonous, but we're already familiar with fuels that one should not bathe

Re: [MBZ] Ethanol

2008-11-20 Thread dave walton
Gasoline is worse. Actually, no. There is inconclusive evidence that it is carcinogenic. It is, but only in the rats they tested it on. Something about a protein binding and building up in the liver and killing the test animals. That does not happen in humans - we don't have that protein. You

Re: [MBZ] Ethanol

2008-11-20 Thread Loren Faeth
You USED to be able to wash your hands with gasoline/kerosene/diesel with no apparent harm, but gasoline had lead in it. The lead police claim now that just looking at lead will kill you. They'd have a hissy fit about washing hands and parts in leaded gasoline. (even though we all did it.)

Re: [MBZ] Ethanol/Why it works in Brazil/Stolen from OTC Journal

2008-11-20 Thread Curt Raymond
From: Tom Hargrave [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Ethanol/Why it works in Brazil/Stolen from OTC     Journal To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain;    charset=windows-1250 Larry, So, you are telling us that sugar beets

Re: [MBZ] Ethanol/Why it works in Brazil/Stolen from OTC Journal

2008-11-20 Thread Rich Thomas
means Price of food has risen to cover the cost of production... -Curt Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2008 18:08:14 -0600 From: Tom Hargrave [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Ethanol/Why it works in Brazil/Stolen from OTC Journal To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL

Re: [MBZ] Ethanol/Why it works in Brazil/Stolen from OTC Journal

2008-11-20 Thread Curt Raymond
. -Curt --- On Thu, 11/20/08, Rich Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Rich Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Ethanol/Why it works in Brazil/Stolen from OTC Journal To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Thursday, November 20, 2008, 12:03 PM Aren't

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