I just opened both needed blades, one on each side, never felt the need
for another set.
On Tue, Jan 26, 2021 at 7:30 AM Mitch Haley via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> On 2021-01-25 14:15, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:
> > *Or splurge and buy single (long) gauges with the
On 2021-01-25 14:15, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:
*Or splurge and buy single (long) gauges with the plastic handles,
which
makes it even easier.*
I've seen those and was blown away. Only for the Truly Spoiled.
Used to be able to buy 12" replacement blades for Snap-On feeler gauges
*Or splurge and buy single (long) gauges with the plastic handles, which
makes it even easier.*
I've seen those and was blown away. Only for the Truly Spoiled.
On Mon, Jan 25, 2021 at 3:08 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> Or splurge and buy single (long) gauges with
Or splurge and buy single (long) gauges with the plastic handles, which makes
it even easier.
-D
> On Jan 25, 2021, at 3:05 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes
> wrote:
>
> It can also be handy to have two sets of feeler gauges, so that you're
> not constantly flipping the blades back and forth on
It can also be handy to have two sets of feeler gauges, so that you're
not constantly flipping the blades back and forth on one set for the
intake and exhaust clearances.
Allan
dan--- via Mercedes writes:
> I have a little chart of the valve arrangement for the OM617 with the order
> to
Buy the OE valve cover seal. Anything else is junk and won’t fit well. As long
as they’re not damaged they will last many years. Also be sure you have the
copper washers for the hold down bolts, too.
-D
> On Jan 25, 2021, at 9:33 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes
> wrote:
>
> Gloves are a good
Gloves are a good idea. The valve cover seal ought to go a couple sets but I'd
probably keep one on hand just in case.
-Curt
On Sunday, January 24, 2021, 10:42:13 PM EST, Allan Streib via Mercedes
wrote:
Curt Raymond via Mercedes writes:
> You only need a set of feeler gauges, a
The "trick" is that you adjust valves in the order that they come up to the
proper position as the camshaft is rotated, and you do NOT go in sequential
order of one cylinder to the next. I mark a piece of scratch paper with "E
\ I" repeated once for each cylinder (meaning Exhaust and Intake) and
I have a little chart of the valve arrangement for the OM617 with the order to
adjust them in that prints on a 3x5 index card. Print it out, Mark them off as
you do each, throw paper away.
I can dig a copy out for anyone who wants it, send me a PM.
-D
> On Jan 25, 2021, at 5:32 AM, Buggered
I got wrenches from a pawn shop and put the torch to them and bent them. Makes
the job easier.
--R
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> On Jan 25, 2021, at 1:45 AM, Scott Ritchey via Mercedes
> wrote:
>
> The special bent wrenches are a bit faster but
> regular wrenches will work
o valves
that try my patience.
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] Initial thoughts of 240D was Re: Instrument cluster Fuse?
Curt Raymond via Merc
What Curt said - -
I set the valves every spring and fall on the OM615, 616, and 617 engines.
I never bent the wrenches, just used them straight, though I can see that
it would have been a bit easier if I had. Of course, I had been setting
valves on VW's for years before that, as well as MGs,
Yes. Valve cover gasket is cheap insurance
Dwight Giles Jr.
Wickford RI
On Sun, Jan 24, 2021, 10:42 PM Allan Streib via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> Curt Raymond via Mercedes writes:
>
> > You only need a set of feeler gauges, a reasonable set of wrenches and
> > a screwdriver.
Curt Raymond via Mercedes writes:
> You only need a set of feeler gauges, a reasonable set of wrenches and
> a screwdriver. $20-$30 at Harbor Freight would get you all the
> tools. I know they sell special wrenches but I don't think they're
> needed on a 240D.
I've never done them on a 240D.
Yes valve adjustment is critical on OM 616 & OM 617 engines. I figure every
10k miles.
Dwight Giles Jr.
Wickford RI
On Sun, Jan 24, 2021, 10:18 PM Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> Valves are absolutely something you can do yourself on a 240D. I've only
> done them
Valves are absolutely something you can do yourself on a 240D. I've only done
them once but I was struck by 2 things:
1. It was much easier than I expected. I planned on 2 hours, I think it took 1
and it would go faster the more I did it.2. The car started and ran MUCH better
and quieter after
I commuted about 100k miles in my 78 240D auto. I called it a middle lane
car. 75-80 was just right for I 95 commuting.. got between 28-30 MPG. Not
sure i ever ran it @ 87.5 MPH as Curt says.
Dwight Giles Jr.
Wickford RI
On Sun, Jan 24, 2021, 6:01 PM Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
New fuel filters and some diesel purge / Italian tune ups should be in your
future. On the flat a 4spd manual 240D should make 87.5mph. They don't strain,
they're governor limited, the engine just won't turn any faster.
Best fuel economy I ever turned in in something like 100,000 miles across
Nope - just stopped counting while driving a steady 70, about 50 miles from
snook's house.
On Sun, Jan 24, 2021 at 12:41 PM Mitch Haley via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> On 2021-01-24 12:27, OK Don via Mercedes wrote:
>
> > Strange - the odometer in the 300D 2.5T I bought from you
On 2021-01-24 12:27, OK Don via Mercedes wrote:
Strange - the odometer in the 300D 2.5T I bought from you died on the
trip
home as well - seems to be a trend.
Coincidence, or you guys are resetting the trip meter as you go down the
freeway after a fillup?
GP's affect cold starting. Valves, when they first become too
tight, also only affect cold starting. (If they get tight enough
it'll affect running, and can result in burned valves.) GP's,
the parallel kind, should measure about 0.7 ohms when cold.
It's easy to do from the GP relay plug. You
The glow plugs only affect starting, then they turn off - they have no
impact to power delivery. If it starts in the cold, they are fine.
On Sun, Jan 24, 2021 at 11:51 AM Donald Snook via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> I’m wondering about the glow plugs too. Isn’t there a way to
Don’t bother with a diesel purge, your highway drive was better for it than
any purge!
Valve adjustment is critical.
On Sun, Jan 24, 2021 at 12:51 PM Donald Snook via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> Jim wrote:
>
> “Even my W115 200D would maintain 85mph floored on the flats.
>
Jim wrote:
“Even my W115 200D would maintain 85mph floored on the flats.
Eventually. If your 240D can't do that, it's not dialed in right. The
Albatross (240D) had real problems at first, but that's because
somebody dicked with the throttle linkages to the point where it
would not reach full
That's a feature of a KlebCar™.
-D
> On Jan 24, 2021, at 12:27 PM, OK Don via Mercedes
> wrote:
>
> On Sun, Jan 24, 2021 at 9:53 AM Donald Snook via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> I did check the mileage. I had to guess a little based on mileage traveled
>> on my GPS
On Sun, Jan 24, 2021 at 9:53 AM Donald Snook via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
>
> I did check the mileage. I had to guess a little based on mileage traveled
> on my GPS because the odometer quit. My calculations are probably pretty
> close. 27.5 mpg.
>
Strange - the odometer in
> Does the injector linkage hit the stop on the pump when the pedal is at the
> floor?
The Albatross' stop adjustment on the pump was way off. I looked at it and the
other two 300D engines that I had accessible to me, and made it look more like
those. Good enough at that point.
-- Jim
Bingo: throttle linkage issues are very common and rob power. That would be
the first check. Does the injector linkage hit the stop on the pump when the
pedal is at the floor?
Max Dillon
Charleston SC
Jan 24, 2021 11:10:04 AM Jim Cathey via Mercedes :
> Even my W115 200D would maintain
I agree, if you had it floored most of the time something is wrong. While
they’re not fast, they should easily get up to highway speed to the point
that you have to back off unless you encounter a steep hill. Keeping the
pedal down will bring you to 85-90mph pretty easily.
Start with linkage,
Even my W115 200D would maintain 85mph floored on the flats.
Eventually. If your 240D can't do that, it's not dialed in right. The
Albatross (240D) had real problems at first, but that's because
somebody dicked with the throttle linkages to the point where it
would not reach full throttle.
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