Re: [MBZ] It's Braken Jim!

2016-10-22 Thread clay via Mercedes
I normally carry a can with me in the tool box. Makes play dates at PnP much nicer. Last visit to the PnP the can leaked… all the fluid… into my tool box. I will not need to worry about rusty tools for a VERY LONG TIME. Now I need to get another can. clay > On Oct 22, 2016, at 12:34 PM,

Re: [MBZ] It's Braken Jim!

2016-10-22 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
Smells good too, unlike PB Blaster... -Curt From: Dan Penoff via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com> To: Mercedes List <mercedes@okiebenz.com> Cc: Dan Penoff <d...@penoff.com> Sent: Saturday, October 22, 2016 3:34 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] It's Braken Jim! Kroil.  Won

Re: [MBZ] It's Braken Jim!

2016-10-22 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Kroil. Wonderful stuff, does everything people says it will and more. Dan > On Oct 22, 2016, at 2:25 PM, clay via Mercedes wrote: > > Ok, I will take a stab at loosening the connections before I take on the > whole job. > > clay > >> On Oct 21, 2016, at 10:29 PM,

Re: [MBZ] It's Braken Jim!

2016-10-22 Thread clay via Mercedes
Ok, I will take a stab at loosening the connections before I take on the whole job. clay > On Oct 21, 2016, at 10:29 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes > wrote: > > Clay sez: > >> ‎ I am thinking FIRE, or maybe >penetrating lube. > > Heat, then quench with cold water from

Re: [MBZ] It's Braken Jim!

2016-10-22 Thread Max Dillon via Mercedes
I'd say start soaking them with penetrating oil, leave all the dirt and rust etc. in place to act as sponge to hold more oil and let them stew. I'll bet if you can keep them wet with oil for 24 hours or longer, they'll come apart like butter. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '87 300TD '95 E300

Re: [MBZ] It's Braken Jim!

2016-10-21 Thread Rick Knoble via Mercedes
Clay sez: >‎ I am thinking FIRE, or maybe >penetrating lube. Heat, then quench with cold water from a spray bottle. Repeat several times. Remember, brake fluid, and brake caliper components (think rubber bits) are designed to withstand temps to several hundred degrees Fahrenheit. Get it hot,

Re: [MBZ] It's Braken Jim!

2016-10-21 Thread clay via Mercedes
I just got them home and spent the rest of the day washing not the calipers. I got a full set of lug bolts that needed cleaning, as well as all the other bolts. I will give the dirty nasty calipers a cleaning and see if the guts swap out. The hoses use the same outside 13mm? wrench. I have

Re: [MBZ] It's Braken Jim!

2016-10-21 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes
> On October 21, 2016 at 11:30 PM clay via Mercedes > wrote: > > > They look exactly the same based on what I pulled off, but for the filth. > Are they the same? Do the pads swap over from one caliper to the other? Are the pistons the same diameter? Are the hose

Re: [MBZ] It's Braken Jim!

2016-10-21 Thread clay via Mercedes
I went to the PnP today and scored a little bit. I got calipers off a 560SEL, as well as the main brake line from the underside of the car. I had to cut out the line, but left the connections so that I might be able to separate them and install with ease. It is all boogered up at the

Re: [MBZ] It's Braken Jim!

2016-10-20 Thread Rick Knoble via Mercedes
SAE unions and tubing nuts and flares are double flares. Metric unions, tubing nuts and flares are bubble flares. On old American iron, I use SAE and double flares. On new American iron, and Mercedes I use bubble flares. SAE stuff.

Re: [MBZ] It's Braken Jim!

2016-10-20 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes
Jim Cathey via Mercedes wrote: It might be possible to cut out the bad spot in the middle, and flare in a splice section of hard line. Not sure if you can get female fittings or not. They're called flare unions I believe. You use female unions with a male inverted nut on both sides, the

Re: [MBZ] It's Braken Jim!

2016-10-19 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
Parking brake shoes/cables are a total PITA. Have new springs on hand. I can't think of anything that is more difficult to work on. I might even choose to do an evapectomy over changing park brake cables. clay via Mercedes October 19, 2016 at 10:21 PM That

Re: [MBZ] It's Braken Jim!

2016-10-19 Thread clay via Mercedes
I would much prefer the ability to splice clay > On Oct 19, 2016, at 6:41 PM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes > wrote: > > All of this looks like fairly straightforward DIY. Bending brake tubing > can be done, and a double-flare tool is not particularly expensive. I > bought

Re: [MBZ] It's Braken Jim!

2016-10-19 Thread clay via Mercedes
Used may be better than what it on the car at the moment. I can sort of test the PnP parts when I pull them. I am pretty sure the shop just whipped out a catalogue instead of doing more than shine a light on it. The on my ones could be rebuilt once they come off. Or they could be just

Re: [MBZ] It's Braken Jim!

2016-10-19 Thread clay via Mercedes
That does sound better than dropping a few K for some busted knuckle dragger to so much what I could. I have tried to install parking shoes on the 300SE. It was a mess. No instructions, but it looked simple. The springs were a PITA clay > On Oct 19, 2016, at 5:37 PM, Floyd Thursby via

Re: [MBZ] It's Braken Jim!

2016-10-19 Thread clay via Mercedes
I just got some tube from FleaBay on order. The tube bender is in the tool box. I will have to see how to stick the ends onto it. clay > On Oct 19, 2016, at 5:13 PM, Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes > wrote: > > My mechanical engineer brother swears by copper alloy

Re: [MBZ] It's Braken Jim!

2016-10-19 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
+1To do a double flare, all you need is the special thimble and a regular flare tool. I buy the special thimbles from snappy, but they are NOT guaranteed by snappy. I buy 2 for each time I have to make a brake line. I usually end up breaking one. BY ALL MEANS, make several trial

Re: [MBZ] It's Braken Jim!

2016-10-19 Thread Jim Cathey via Mercedes
All of this looks like fairly straightforward DIY. Bending brake tubing can be done, and a double-flare tool is not particularly expensive. I bought one for the Ebola Fishtank, though I no longer know where it is. Somewhere, no doubt... Practice putting flares on the ends of scraps before you

Re: [MBZ] It's Braken Jim!

2016-10-19 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
Used brake parts are such a crap shoot I can't see it being worth doing. What would you pay for used calipers vs what you'd pay for remans with a good warranty? Pads is cheap, buy good ones. I'd NEVER use a used brake line. Hard lines aren't expensive. The expensive part is when the fittings

Re: [MBZ] It's Braken Jim!

2016-10-19 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
Brake lines are no big deal if you have a tube bender and the old one to copy, and a flare tool that will work with whatever flare the tube has on it. Don't forget to put your fittings on before flaring! (I know this!) You can get the tube at the FLAPS, probably borrow the tools from them.

Re: [MBZ] It's Braken Jim!

2016-10-19 Thread Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes
My mechanical engineer brother swears by copper alloy brake lines. IDK if he buys pre formed or fabs them himself. If they can be self-fabbed then that could be a cheaper alternative. Corrosion would be a non-issue for the future. Greg -Original Message- From: Mercedes