>>Then Cuomo needs to be brought up on charges for seeding Covid into the
>>nursing homes.
>I do not understand why he did that.
I already answered that.
There. Is. No. Rule. Of. Law.
Said another way, because he can.
Statistics is numbers. If you need statistics for a certain purpose, you
Yes that is a better summary. Thanks.
Mitch Haley via Mercedes writes:
> Not just 'what is required' which sounds like emergency management (which
> should carry a 30 day time limit IMO).
> He enacted criminal statute by way of executive fiat when he declared that
> failure to wear a mask in
On Thu, July 23, 2020 9:23 pm, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:
> Not really, they only have 78,000 cases in a country of 10 million.
Michigan is a country of 10 million. 73,000 cases confirmed, plus about
8000 probables, highly concentrated in 3 counties surrounding Detroit.
Not just 'what is required' which sounds like emergency management (which
should carry a 30 day time limit IMO).
He enacted criminal statute by way of executive fiat when he declared that
failure to wear a mask in public was a more serious crime than DUI. You
can't be convicted of a misdemeanor
The Indiana Attorney General has objected to the Governor's recent
state-wide mask order, his argument is that that 4 months into the
"crisis" the legislature should be the governmental body that decides
what is required of its citizens.
Allan
Curt Raymond via Mercedes writes:
> He's a
This is a visual description of how electrostatic masks work.
https://blogs.cdc.gov/niosh-science-blog/2009/10/14/n95/
On Thu, 23 Jul 2020 18:40:23 -0700
Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes wrote:
> Kaleb that is totally untrue. The masks work
I have heard it said breathing thru your nose provides about as much
natural filtration as most of these mask do. Breathing thru your mouth
sucks more of it in.
On 7/23/2020 9:29 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes wrote:
I find that when I wear a mask I tend to breath through my mouth, which
is
I find that when I wear a mask I tend to breath through my mouth, which
is worse for filtering out contaminants.
I am a nose-breather otherwise, unless I'm doing something strenuous and
need to move larger volumes of air.
If I'm wearing a mask I have to contentrate on deliberately breathing
If it is transmitted by droplets, they droplets hold the virus. If it is
airborn, the virus does not require droplets to carry it, it is carried
in the air. Here are a couple of articles that explain the different
and precautions needed for each. Although the one article talks about
it is
I mean, Belgium has the highest death rate period. I've wondered about that
for a while now, it seems a curious number.
-Curt
On Thursday, July 23, 2020, 9:38:06 PM EDT, Meade Dillon via Mercedes
wrote:
Sweden's death rate has been in steady decline, now down to about 10 people
per
I watched about the first 20 minutes, the first speaker went full $5 word
mode, and it was getting pretty hard for me to follow. It sounded like he
was saying that the virus can infect a person via mouth, nose, eyes, and
throat and lungs. Wearing a mask that increases a person's tendency to
You're still missing the point, the mask isn't there to filter the virus out,
we know thats too hard. Gads, if people complain about breathing through a
simple cloth mask I can't imagine how they'd complain if it was actually
filtering.
The mask slows down your breath, it keeps your spew
Kaleb that is totally untrue. The masks work through electrostatic charges.
They are not a sieve.
On Thu, Jul 23, 2020, 6:37 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> It all comes down to this. What size is the virus? What micron rating is
> the mast?
>
> Sent from my
e with comorbidities were at extreme risk. In a just society, that is
> mass murder. There. Is. No. Rule. Of. Law.
>
> Rick
>
>
> From: Mercedes on behalf of OK Don via
> Mercedes
> Sent: Thursday, July 23, 2020 7:34:23 PM
> To: Mercedes Discussion
I hate those kind of videos, if somebody can't be bothered to write it down I
don't care.
-Curt
On Thursday, July 23, 2020, 9:34:41 PM EDT, Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes
wrote:
Did anybody watch the video I sent a link to this AM? I get it if people
dont have time but it addresses many
It all comes down to this. What size is the virus? What micron rating is the
mast?
Sent from my iPhone
> On Jul 23, 2020, at 7:35 PM, OK Don via Mercedes
> wrote:
>
> Even if airborn, you wearing a mask dramtically reduces my chances of
> getting it from you.
>
>> On Thu, Jul 23, 2020 at
Sweden's death rate has been in steady decline, now down to about 10 people
per day, from a high of 100 per day. I'd say their approach is looking
like it worked out just fine. Compare them to Belgium, which went the full
lock-down route, and it is clear that lock-down vs. no lock-down does not
How long does it take to reach here immunity?
Sent from my iPhone
> On Jul 23, 2020, at 7:34 PM, OK Don via Mercedes
> wrote:
>
> Sweden has shown that herd immunity is not working.
>
>> On Thu, Jul 23, 2020 at 7:09 PM Mitch Haley via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>
>>
Did anybody watch the video I sent a link to this AM? I get it if people
dont have time but it addresses many of these questions.
On Thu, Jul 23, 2020, 1:29 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> The problem is we do not know if they help to contain the virus. They say
hat is mass murder.
There. Is. No. Rule. Of. Law.
Rick
From: Mercedes on behalf of OK Don via Mercedes
Sent: Thursday, July 23, 2020 7:34:23 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Cc: OK Don
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Mask wearing
Even if airborn, you wearing a mask dramtically reduces my
Not really, they only have 78,000 cases in a country of 10 million. The number
of new infections per day in Sweden right now is only a bit higher than here in
MA yet they have almost 5 times as many people. So their rate of transmission
is actually lower.
Sweden has been kind of a whipping boy
You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.
Its a respiratory illness, of course its airborne. Think about the word: air,
meaning that stuff all around us, borne, meaning carried upon. The virus gets
carried upon the air when people cough or sneeze. It also gets
Thursday, July 23, 2020 7:34:23 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Cc: OK Don
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Mask wearing
Even if airborn, you wearing a mask dramtically reduces my chances of
getting it from you.
On Thu, Jul 23, 2020 at 7:30 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com>
Even if airborn, you wearing a mask dramtically reduces my chances of
getting it from you.
On Thu, Jul 23, 2020 at 7:30 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> Perhaps. Seems logical a large group will spread things. Is the virus
> airborne or not? We still don’t know.
Sweden has shown that herd immunity is not working.
On Thu, Jul 23, 2020 at 7:09 PM Mitch Haley via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> Reaching herd immunity before the rest of us?
> Mitch.
>
--
OK Don
"Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to
pause and
Perhaps. Seems logical a large group will spread things. Is the virus airborne
or not? We still don’t know. If it is, masks are a total and complete waste of
time. We would need to be wearing gas masks or something.
Sent from my iPhone
> On Jul 23, 2020, at 7:25 PM, Curt Raymond wrote:
>
>
Incorrect, mask wearing can reduce transmission unless you're an idiot. If you
insist on going to bars and clubs you're almost certainly going to get infected.
A thought I had, if some idiot goes out to a bar and gets infected, then they
go home and unknowingly infect their elderly parents who
Wrong. I have to wear a mask because you won't.
On Thu, Jul 23, 2020 at 6:47 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> So long story short mask wearing is not going to solve anything and
> those at high risk should isolate at home.
>
> On 7/23/2020 6:39 PM, Curt Raymond
Reaching herd immunity before the rest of us?
Mitch.
On Thu, July 23, 2020 8:04 pm, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:
> My son lives in LA. He says the 30-somethings over crowded the bars and
> avoided the social distance protocols. Masks were also a little used
> option. NOW THEY MUST
My son lives in LA. He says the 30-somethings over crowded the bars and
avoided the social distance protocols. Masks were also a little used
option. Now they must deal with the consequences.
On Thu, Jul 23, 2020 at 7:47 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> So long
So long story short mask wearing is not going to solve anything and
those at high risk should isolate at home.
On 7/23/2020 6:39 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:
Correlation is not causality. California reduced many restrictions and will be
seeing tourist trade increase. There are
Correlation is not causality. California reduced many restrictions and will be
seeing tourist trade increase. There are probably several reasons why cases
have increased, most related to behavior. My friends in LA tell me that almost
nobody is wearing masks and bars have reopened with few
IMO they should be telling vulnerable people to wear N95 masks to protect
themselves. Nobody cares more about one's own health than oneself. They
will be motivated.
Telling young people who don't really have much to worry about to wear
masks that won't stop them getting the virus --- you can see
> Dimitri wrote:
> Sorry but that is total crapola. Wear the damn mask. Protect
> others, protect yourself. Contain this virus and let’s move on!
It CANNOT be contained. Slowed - maybe. Contained - no. Protect
those who are have a high risk, and the rest of us should move
on. If you feel you
Another thing that I've heard is going on, the rich get the instant test,
and only go into treatment if needed. The poor get the slow test, and
while waiting for the results they get hospitalized in a room full of other
poor people also waiting for test results, so if they didn't have it when
The cases I think are in areas with certain demographics. My boy is
doing ICU duty in San Jose now, where the cases were a lot higher than
in towns with higher socioeconomic numbers.
--FT
On 7/23/20 4:50 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes wrote:
Have you seen the news from California? I think
Or could it be the masks are actually leading to increased cases? This could be
due to the fact that masks are trapping crap that you are then breathing in. Or
maybe the masks are creating a false sense of security?
Sent from my iPhone
> On Jul 23, 2020, at 3:51 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes
>
Then there is the increase in cases in CA where masks were mandated a month
ago.
https://www.libertybell.com/one-month-after-their-mask-mandate-guess-what-californias-daily-covid-case-average-is/
Sent from my iPhone
> On Jul 23, 2020, at 3:41 PM, Curt Raymond wrote:
>
>
> They don't
Right. They still don’t know how it is transmitted. Figure that out, then there
might be an argument for masks.
Sent from my iPhone
> On Jul 23, 2020, at 3:39 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes
> wrote:
>
> On Thu, July 23, 2020 4:29 pm, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
>> The problem is we do
Have you seen the news from California? I think their Mando Mask wearing
started over 30 days ago, but infection rate is still climbing and death rate
too. Masks alone are not the answer.
Max Dillon
Charleston SC
Jul 23, 2020 1:25:22 PM OK Don via Mercedes :
> Well, that was Arkansas, after
They don't contain completely that much is pretty obvious but, since people
complain about masks restricting airflow its pretty clear that the mask reduces
the velocity of the air coming out of you which means the virus is more likely
to stick with you than to float around free.
Nobody with
On Thu, July 23, 2020 4:29 pm, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
> The problem is we do not know if they help to contain the virus. They say
> they think it might be spread by droplets from coughing etc. A report
> then came out that it might be airborne. First we need to figure that
> out. Next,
The problem is we do not know if they help to contain the virus. They say they
think it might be spread by droplets from coughing etc. A report then came out
that it might be airborne. First we need to figure that out. Next, what size is
the virus? What micron rating are the masks? So far
Sanitizing maybe, my pet theory is that the "otherwise healthy", young, strong
people who are dying or really suffering with COVID are also the people who are
excessively clean. I'm thinking that germophobes don't build as strong immune
systems.
If you're just staying away from other people
Not days. Months or years of isolating, masking, and sanitizing might do it
though.
Sent from my iPhone
> On Jul 23, 2020, at 1:50 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes
> wrote:
>
> Yeah, the idea that your body will lose its ability to fight off regular
> colds "within days" that some are
Yeah, the idea that your body will lose its ability to fight off regular colds
"within days" that some are saying is the pretty dumb. You're still
experiencing other infectious agents, theres not really any practical way to
not...
-Curt
On Thursday, July 23, 2020, 1:47:42 PM EDT, Dimitri
Huh?
Sent from my iPhone
> On Jul 23, 2020, at 12:47 PM, Dimitri Seretakis wrote:
>
> Sorry but that is total crapola. Wear the damn mask. Protect others, protect
> yourself. Contain this virus and let’s move on!
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Jul 23, 2020, at 1:31 PM, Kaleb Striplin via
Sorry but that is total crapola. Wear the damn mask. Protect others, protect
yourself. Contain this virus and let’s move on!
Sent from my iPhone
> On Jul 23, 2020, at 1:31 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
> wrote:
>
> They your body loses the ability to fight common colds and flus then the
They your body loses the ability to fight common colds and flus then the deaths
go up from that.
All of these places are giving you new disposable cups for refill, everything
in styrofoam to go boxes, disposable menus, utensils. I bet the amount of trash
and pollution for all of this is
Well, that was Arkansas, after all ...
IIRC, the incidence of colds and old style flu are way down since social
distancing and masks.
On Thu, Jul 23, 2020 at 12:11 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> After traveling by air last week and spending this week in Arkansas
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