Re: [MBZ] OM603 camshaft installation-success!

2007-08-11 Thread LarryT
List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, August 10, 2007 1:55 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OM603 camshaft installation-success! I was attempting to turn the engine over by the crank with a 27mm socket and ratchet. Make any difference? :) Luther On Fri, 10 Aug 2007 11:29:33 -0500, Tom Hargrave [EMAIL

Re: [MBZ] OM603 camshaft installation-success!

2007-08-11 Thread Peter Frederick
He replaced the head. Cam bearings are two bolts, and must be walked down one turn at a time on the four or five bearing caps specified in the shop manual to avoid warping or binding the cam. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official

Re: [MBZ] OM603 camshaft installation-success!

2007-08-11 Thread Tom Hargrave
complete revolutions without coming to a hard stop? Thanks, Tom 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: 8/10/07 6:47 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OM603 camshaft installation-success! Sure, but it's how I set the valves

Re: [MBZ] OM603 camshaft installation-success!

2007-08-11 Thread Tom Hargrave
. Tom www.kegkits.com Original Message From: Tom Hargrave [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 08/11/07 12:25 PM To: Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] OM603 camshaft installation-success! -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= It should take some effort

Re: [MBZ] OM603 camshaft installation-success!

2007-08-11 Thread Luther
RR of the cracked head. I installed the bearing caps in the exact order they were removed, they are numbered 1-7. Thank goodness :D Bearing caps 2,3,4, and 7 were installed 1 turn per bolt at a time. I'm thinking that the mechanical interference is not enough lube/metal on metal. That's why

Re: [MBZ] OM603 camshaft installation-success!

2007-08-11 Thread Peter Frederick
Chain guide go in OK between cam sprocket and injection timer? As I remember, it's possible to get that one in upsidedown, in which case the chain won't move. I could turn mine fairly easily with a 1/2 drive standard length ratchet. Peter ___

Re: [MBZ] OM603 camshaft installation-success!

2007-08-11 Thread Luther
Chain guide was never removed, always stayed on the chain. Luther On Sat, 11 Aug 2007 15:10:59 -0500, Peter Frederick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Chain guide go in OK between cam sprocket and injection timer? As I remember, it's possible to get that one in upsidedown, in which case the chain

Re: [MBZ] OM603 camshaft installation-success!

2007-08-11 Thread Peter Frederick
Does it rotate at all? Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:

Re: [MBZ] OM603 camshaft installation-success!

2007-08-10 Thread Luther
Plan's been revised. The cam is coming back off and getting cleaned of all its Mobil 1, clean the head areas, then re-assemble with assembly lube. I tried to turn the engine over by hand, and couldn't. I might get back into it tomorrow morning after work. For now, I'm relaxing and sleeping

Re: [MBZ] OM603 camshaft installation-success!

2007-08-10 Thread Tom Hargrave
Original Message From: Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 08/10/07 11:11 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] OM603 camshaft installation-success! -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Plan's been revised. The cam is coming back off and getting cleaned of all its Mobil 1

Re: [MBZ] OM603 camshaft installation-success!

2007-08-10 Thread dave walton
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] OM603 camshaft installation-success! -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Plan's been revised. The cam is coming back off and getting cleaned of all its Mobil 1, clean the head areas, then re-assemble with assembly lube. I

Re: [MBZ] OM603 camshaft installation-success!

2007-08-10 Thread Tom Hargrave
PROTECTED] Sent: 08/10/07 11:11 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] OM603 camshaft installation-success! -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Plan's been revised. The cam is coming back off and getting cleaned of all its Mobil 1, clean the head areas

Re: [MBZ] OM603 camshaft installation-success!

2007-08-10 Thread Luther
Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] OM603 camshaft installation-success! -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Plan's been revised. The cam is coming back off and getting cleaned of all its Mobil 1, clean the head areas, then re-assemble with assembly lube. I tried to turn the engine

Re: [MBZ] OM603 camshaft installation-success!

2007-08-10 Thread LarryT
Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2007 7:46 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OM603 camshaft installation-success! Oil is fine as long as you are sure that you have a good coating during assembly. The risk with oil is that so much may run or drip off that that you don't

Re: [MBZ] OM603 camshaft installation-success!

2007-08-10 Thread Luther
are dragging quite a bit around when you are turning the crack and it's not easy to move. Thanks, Tom 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: dave walton [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: 8/10/07 2:30 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OM603 camshaft

Re: [MBZ] OM603 camshaft installation-success!

2007-08-10 Thread Peter Frederick
Should be fairly easy to rotate a 603 -- if quite stuck, something is very wrong. I would remove the cam and make sure you have #1 on TDC. Check the installation, too -- if you got it sorta cocked, it may not turn because it's bound. It's not hard to turn the cam with a large screwdriver

Re: [MBZ] OM603 camshaft installation-success!

2007-08-10 Thread dave walton
and it's not easy to move. Thanks, Tom 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: dave walton [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: 8/10/07 2:30 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OM603 camshaft installation-success! I just checked - it's a 27mm. Turning

Re: [MBZ] OM603 camshaft installation-success!

2007-08-09 Thread Luther
I'm sure I wasn't off by a tooth since I had lightly scribed marks on the cam sprocket and chain right at TDC. Tom's suggestion of using the cam sprocket to move the camshaft worked. Cam is on and I can continue on with the reassembly. Thanks for the help. Luther On Thu, 09 Aug 2007 13:15:21

Re: [MBZ] OM603 camshaft installation-success!

2007-08-09 Thread LarryT
: Thursday, August 09, 2007 2:39 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OM603 camshaft installation-success! I'm sure I wasn't off by a tooth since I had lightly scribed marks on the cam sprocket and chain right at TDC. Tom's suggestion of using the cam sprocket to move the camshaft worked. Cam is on and I

Re: [MBZ] OM603 camshaft installation-success!

2007-08-09 Thread Luther
Is Mobile 1 good enough? On Thu, 09 Aug 2007 15:30:31 -0500, LarryT [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Not sure what is keeping the cam from lining up - never had a problem but one thing is *critical* -- lubrication to the cam bearings! You *must* coat the bearings with a startup lube to prevent

Re: [MBZ] OM603 camshaft installation-success!

2007-08-09 Thread Zeitgeist
I've always used assembly grease. I like this blood-red stuff I got from NAPA. Sticks around long enough for oil to coat things nicely. On 8/9/07, Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is Mobile 1 good enough? Casey __ '87 300TD

Re: [MBZ] OM603 camshaft installation-success!

2007-08-09 Thread Tom Hargrave
] OM603 camshaft installation-success! I've always used assembly grease. I like this blood-red stuff I got from NAPA. Sticks around long enough for oil to coat things nicely. On 8/9/07, Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is Mobile 1 good enough? Casey

Re: [MBZ] OM603 camshaft installation-success!

2007-08-09 Thread LarryT
] To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2007 7:46 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OM603 camshaft installation-success! Oil is fine as long as you are sure that you have a good coating during assembly. The risk with oil is that so much may run or drip off that that you

Re: [MBZ] OM603 camshaft installation-success!

2007-08-09 Thread Luther
' mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2007 7:46 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OM603 camshaft installation-success! Oil is fine as long as you are sure that you have a good coating during assembly. The risk with oil is that so much may run or drip off that that you don't have a good oil film