Re: [MBZ] OT anyone have experience and opinion on late model trucks?

2013-08-12 Thread Jim Cathey
have become so fancy that there is no hope of having a lighter duty pickup with an engine as trouble free as my old MB. IF only there was. The 1996-1998 (early) Dodge diesel uses the P7100 inline injection pump. That's your 240D-style engine right there. Not light-duty, though. -- Jim

Re: [MBZ] OT anyone have experience and opinion on late model trucks?

2013-08-08 Thread Randy Bennell
On 07/08/2013 6:14 PM, Craig wrote: On Wed, 7 Aug 2013 16:12:22 -0500 Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: oh? Back to IH again? Or is someone else building v-8s? Sorry, I cannot answer that question. Craig I think the new diesel engine is Ford designed and produced. Did they not

Re: [MBZ] OT anyone have experience and opinion on late model trucks?

2013-08-08 Thread Dieselhead
I think the new diesel engine is Ford designed and produced. Did they not have some dispute with IH and that resulted in departure from use of the IH engines? My mechanic son has done a fair amount of work on diesel pickups in the last year or two. Ford head gaskets etc. GM injectors etc.

Re: [MBZ] OT anyone have experience and opinion on late model trucks?

2013-08-08 Thread G Mann
It's my information. based on Ford diesel truck discussion board at the time, the issue with IH / Ford was actually with EPA. Story I've repeatedly heard is that Ford was found to have fudged the EPA emission numbers in order to make the ever tighter EPA restrictions, without incurring the

Re: [MBZ] OT anyone have experience and opinion on late model trucks?

2013-08-08 Thread Michael Canfield
The Ford 6.0 is an IH engine. It is a good, solid design that Ford screwed up by not listening to IH. The 6.0 should not have been released in the US market before clean enough fuel was available here. IIRC the original design is German and works just fine with European fuel. Ford was stupid.

Re: [MBZ] OT anyone have experience and opinion on late model trucks?

2013-08-08 Thread Randy Bennell
On 08/08/2013 11:08 AM, Dieselhead wrote: I think the new diesel engine is Ford designed and produced. Did they not have some dispute with IH and that resulted in departure from use of the IH engines? My mechanic son has done a fair amount of work on diesel pickups in the last year or

Re: [MBZ] OT anyone have experience and opinion on late model trucks?

2013-08-08 Thread Mitch Haley
G Mann wrote: It's my information. based on Ford diesel truck discussion board at the time, the issue with IH / Ford was actually with EPA. Story I've repeatedly heard is that Ford was found to have fudged the EPA emission numbers in order to make the ever tighter EPA restrictions, without

Re: [MBZ] OT anyone have experience and opinion on late model trucks?

2013-08-08 Thread Michael Canfield
If I was in the market for a new light duty pickup it would be a Chevy 1/2 ton 4x4 gasser. Nice ride, best prices I have seen, efficient, powerful, reliable. Mike On Aug 8, 2013 1:02 PM, Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca wrote: On 08/08/2013 11:08 AM, Dieselhead wrote: I think the new

Re: [MBZ] OT anyone have experience and opinion on late model trucks?

2013-08-08 Thread Fmiser
Randy wrote: However, I also have to admit that I really do not need a 3/4 ton and a 1/2 ton with a gas engine probably makes a whole lot more sense. I just like the diesel. Unfortunately, the new diesels have become so fancy that there is no hope of having a lighter duty pickup with an

Re: [MBZ] OT anyone have experience and opinion on late model trucks?

2013-08-08 Thread Randy Bennell
On 08/08/2013 1:16 PM, Fmiser wrote: Randy wrote: However, I also have to admit that I really do not need a 3/4 ton and a 1/2 ton with a gas engine probably makes a whole lot more sense. I just like the diesel. Unfortunately, the new diesels have become so fancy that there is no hope of having

Re: [MBZ] OT anyone have experience and opinion on late model trucks?

2013-08-08 Thread Michael Canfield
Interesting comment. Along with my 83 300d, I also drive an r3500 Chevy crewcab with 6.2 and sm465 4 speed tranny. The 6.2 is efficient but not powerful like a Cummins or Powerstroke. If you drive it completely the opposite of the Benz it is cheap to run and reliable. If you run it hard it

Re: [MBZ] OT anyone have experience and opinion on late model trucks?

2013-08-08 Thread OK Don
When I was looking at trucksa few months ago, I ruled out the GMs due to NO room behind the seat (single cab, basic truck). The Dodge had the lowest payload capacity of the three in a bottom of the line truck, so it got ruled out. The discount, no haggle, fixed price via the EAA membership sealed

Re: [MBZ] OT anyone have experience and opinion on late model trucks?

2013-08-08 Thread Curt Raymond
From: Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT anyone have experience and opinion on late model     trucks? Message-ID: 5203cefb.70...@bennell.ca Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed If I had really deep

Re: [MBZ] OT anyone have experience and opinion on late model trucks?

2013-08-08 Thread OK Don
Didn't I say that a year ago? :-) On Thu, Aug 8, 2013 at 1:48 PM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: The interesting thing about the TDI is that one ride makes you a believer, low down torque is awesome. -Curt -- OK Don They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little

Re: [MBZ] OT anyone have experience and opinion on late model trucks?

2013-08-08 Thread Michael Canfield
Hahahaha. Mine is like driving a narrow school bus. Long, slow, crude vinyl, plastic and steel interior and usually full of kids. Mike On Aug 8, 2013 2:29 PM, Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca wrote: On 08/08/2013 1:16 PM, Fmiser wrote: Randy wrote: However, I also have to admit that I

Re: [MBZ] OT anyone have experience and opinion on late model trucks?

2013-08-08 Thread Curt Raymond
Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT anyone have experience and opinion on late model     trucks? Message-ID:     CALHJ_1Abmuh-ubQ8qCfv-F5BeFL=iveayfxjy2frh33+yjn...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 If I was in the market for a new light duty pickup

Re: [MBZ] OT anyone have experience and opinion on late model trucks?

2013-08-08 Thread Fmiser
Fmiser wrote: Well, what's wrong with a late '80s GM with the Detroit 6.2L? Not as trouble free as an MB, but close. Michael wrote: Interesting comment. Along with my 83 300d, I also drive an r3500 Chevy crewcab with 6.2 and sm465 4 speed tranny. The 6.2 is efficient but not

Re: [MBZ] OT anyone have experience and opinion on late model trucks?

2013-08-08 Thread Curt Raymond
Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT anyone have experience and opinion on late model     trucks? Message-ID:     canzcij_evgze4os85wx+c4wwf88v1grwmbcfeuheato-ku9...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Didn't I say that a year ago?  :-) On Thu, Aug 8, 2013

Re: [MBZ] OT anyone have experience and opinion on late model trucks?

2013-08-08 Thread Curt Raymond
From: Fmiser fmi...@gmail.com To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT anyone have experience and opinion on late model     trucks? Message-ID: 20130808142417.58b4a...@jasper.condray.lan Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Fmiser wrote: Meanwhile, I'm on the lookout for a pickup like

Re: [MBZ] OT anyone have experience and opinion on late model trucks?

2013-08-08 Thread Rich Thomas
I saw a really nice new VW diesel pickup in Argentina, it was sort of the mid-sized size but was really nice. --R On 8/8/13 2:48 PM, Curt Raymond wrote: I was thinking about diesel pickups yesterday. If VW can make a 2.0l 4cyl diesel with 140hp and 250lb/ft of torque why can't somebody make

Re: [MBZ] OT anyone have experience and opinion on late model trucks?

2013-08-08 Thread Randy Bennell
On 08/08/2013 1:48 PM, Curt Raymond wrote: I was thinking about diesel pickups yesterday. If VW can make a 2.0l 4cyl diesel with 140hp and 250lb/ft of torque why can't somebody make a 4.0l v6 with 200hp 400lb/ft and put it in a 1/2 ton pickup? The answer is that of course they can and a

Re: [MBZ] OT anyone have experience and opinion on late model trucks?

2013-08-08 Thread Randy Bennell
My very limited experience with diesel trucks is all fairly remote. As I said, earlier, my son is a mechanic and does some work on diesel pickups. He tells me how messy, difficult and expensive they are to repair. He was working on a late model GM Duramax recently. (an 08 if I recall

Re: [MBZ] OT anyone have experience and opinion on late model trucks?

2013-08-08 Thread Michael Canfield
The wires are for the injectors. They are known to go bad and the hatness needs to be replaced so the injectors get the power they need before worrying about replacing any. Injector voltage is critical in a PSD. My truck is a 1990. Mike On Aug 8, 2013 4:40 PM, Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca

Re: [MBZ] OT anyone have experience and opinion on late model trucks?

2013-08-08 Thread Michael Canfield
See below On Aug 8, 2013 3:24 PM, Fmiser fmi...@gmail.com wrote: Fmiser wrote: Well, what's wrong with a late '80s GM with the Detroit 6.2L? Not as trouble free as an MB, but close. Michael wrote: Interesting comment. Along with my 83 300d, I also drive an r3500

Re: [MBZ] OT anyone have experience and opinion on late model trucks?

2013-08-08 Thread Randy Bennell
On 08/08/2013 4:48 PM, Michael Canfield wrote: The wires are for the injectors. They are known to go bad and the hatness needs to be replaced so the injectors get the power they need before worrying about replacing any. Injector voltage is critical in a PSD. My truck is a 1990. Mike On Aug

Re: [MBZ] OT anyone have experience and opinion on late model trucks?

2013-08-08 Thread Curt Raymond
The Amarok, I saw it too when I was there in 2011. They look awesome, same engine as the Jetta/Passat -Curt  Date: Thu, 08 Aug 2013 16:22:15 -0400 From: Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT anyone have

Re: [MBZ] OT anyone have experience and opinion on late model trucks?

2013-08-08 Thread David Kristin Gilmore
At 02:48 PM 8/8/2013, Curt wrote: I was thinking about diesel pickups yesterday. If VW can make a 2.0l 4cyl diesel with 140hp and 250lb/ft of torque why can't somebody make a 4.0l v6 with 200hp 400lb/ft and put it in a 1/2 ton pickup? Dodge is supposed to have a V6 diesel option in their

Re: [MBZ] OT anyone have experience and opinion on late model trucks?

2013-08-08 Thread Gerry Archer
IIRC when Ford first decided to test market diesel pickups, they bought (1000?) engines from IH. Those pickups sold out rapidly. Then they contractes with IH to supply engines. Then they leased the rights to manufacture them. The IH engines were bullet proof. When Ford started making them,

Re: [MBZ] OT anyone have experience and opinion on late model trucks?

2013-08-08 Thread Fmiser
Fmiser wrote: Well, what's wrong with a late '80s GM with the Detroit 6.2L? Not as trouble free as an MB, but close. Michael wrote: Comparing to the Benz.it is WAY easier to work on Fmiser wrote: I disagree. My 123s are much less likely to have seized

Re: [MBZ] OT anyone have experience and opinion on late model trucks?

2013-08-08 Thread Michael Canfield
I am thinking about making it 4wd Haven't decided on stock Chevy or a Cummins and HP60. Mike On Aug 8, 2013 7:40 PM, Fmiser fmi...@gmail.com wrote: Fmiser wrote: Well, what's wrong with a late '80s GM with the Detroit 6.2L? Not as trouble free as an MB, but close.

Re: [MBZ] OT anyone have experience and opinion on late model trucks?

2013-08-08 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
The duramax is a great engine Sent from my iPhone On Aug 8, 2013, at 11:08 AM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: I think the new diesel engine is Ford designed and produced. Did they not have some dispute with IH and that resulted in departure from use of the IH engines? My

Re: [MBZ] OT anyone have experience and opinion on late model trucks?

2013-08-07 Thread Curt Raymond
Used truck prices are very high right now, actually used vehicle prices in general are very high right now. I've been kind of keeping an eye out and anything in the $10-$15k range is pretty well beat. I think it makes a lot of sense to buy new, especially since the manufacturers are giving

Re: [MBZ] OT anyone have experience and opinion on late model trucks?

2013-08-07 Thread Craig
On Wed, 07 Aug 2013 12:03:32 -0500 Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca wrote: I have not heard great things about some of the Ford trucks in the later years. They tend to have some engine issues that mine has not. The brand new Fords have a different bunch of engines that may be better but

Re: [MBZ] OT anyone have experience and opinion on late model trucks?

2013-08-07 Thread Dieselhead
The bad Ford diesels are 2004 - 2006 Ford F250 with the 6 liter diesel engine. A friend of mine and a friend of his had these and both had MANY problems. Apparently, before that time Ford bought their engines. For 2004, they decided to make their own engines -- which had many problems. In 2007,

Re: [MBZ] OT anyone have experience and opinion on late model trucks?

2013-08-07 Thread Craig
On Wed, 7 Aug 2013 16:12:22 -0500 Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: oh? Back to IH again? Or is someone else building v-8s? Sorry, I cannot answer that question. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives