Re: [MBZ] Replacement Key Head for 124

2020-01-14 Thread Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes
Just print two halves and glue them together with plexus. Or put some plexus in a mold and jam the key down into it. Or do the same thing with epoxy with some milled glass fibers or similar. Done. On Tue, Jan 14, 2020, 6:52 PM Curley McLain via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > I

Re: [MBZ] Replacement Key Head for 124

2020-01-14 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
I believe that could be done.   That would be a good way to go with the carbon fiber filament. build a fixture onto the base plate that you could clamp the key in, then hit GO for program #2.  Program 2 would be just an inverse of program 1. OK Don via Mercedes

Re: [MBZ] Replacement Key Head for 124

2020-01-14 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
Hmmm - could you program the printer to stop at the appropriate point for you to put the metal key in place, then let the printer continue and make the head all one piece, with the key encapsulated in it? On Tue, Jan 14, 2020 at 7:48 AM Meade Dillon via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: >

Re: [MBZ] Replacement Key Head for 124

2020-01-14 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
The base is heated. The default base for most printers is a plastic coated surface that’s sort of bumpy, for lack of a better description. I replaced mine with a sheet of glass for better adhesion. A quick spritz of “Aqua Net” makes things stick just fine. -D > On Jan 14, 2020, at 3:31 PM,

Re: [MBZ] Replacement Key Head for 124

2020-01-14 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes
On 14/01/2020 11:53 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: Hair spray. Nozzle temp too cool, or feed rate too high. And yes, you have to make accommodations for the type of filament you’re using. It’s always good to get comfortable with a particular type of filament so you can understand how

Re: [MBZ] Replacement Key Head for 124

2020-01-14 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Hair spray. Nozzle temp too cool, or feed rate too high. And yes, you have to make accommodations for the type of filament you’re using. It’s always good to get comfortable with a particular type of filament so you can understand how various changes in the printing process affect it. Once

Re: [MBZ] Replacement Key Head for 124

2020-01-14 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes
A lot of what I am seeing relates to basic things like getting the printed item to stick to the base surface. Also, nozzles that plug up etc. Many variables for different sorts of filament. RB On 14/01/2020 11:38 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: That’s quite true, too, Randy. More so if

Re: [MBZ] Replacement Key Head for 124

2020-01-14 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Also - I use “Ultimaker Cura” as my file management/printing software. It’s open source and well supported. A lot of what I’ve gained as far as understanding how to make good prints came out of their support forums. -D > On Jan 14, 2020, at 12:38 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes > wrote: > >

Re: [MBZ] Replacement Key Head for 124

2020-01-14 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
That’s quite true, too, Randy. More so if you’re doing things on your own, that is, designing your own prints. I found that by reading a lot of the notes with the files on Thingverse as well as researching my printer in various online forums that I’ve got an idea of how to print things

Re: [MBZ] Replacement Key Head for 124

2020-01-14 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes
On 14/01/2020 10:26 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: I think the biggest negative about 3D printing is the time it takes to clean up or finish a print. Most people think you just upload the file, turn the printer on and go. A lot depends on how fine a line/resolution/layer you set up to

Re: [MBZ] Replacement Key Head for 124

2020-01-14 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
I think the biggest negative about 3D printing is the time it takes to clean up or finish a print. Most people think you just upload the file, turn the printer on and go. A lot depends on how fine a line/resolution/layer you set up to print, which also affects print time substantially. Default

Re: [MBZ] Replacement Key Head for 124

2020-01-14 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
I had a print made of a Raspberry Pi case in the shape of an Atari 800. I spent a ton of time filling the grooves from the print material and then priming. Then I foolishly tried to help the primer dry faster with the heat gun. The print sagged and is now the wrong shape. Its been sitting

Re: [MBZ] Replacement Key Head for 124

2020-01-14 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
Those are decent machines, I have been looking at them.  Wouldn't mind having one to make things --FT On 1/14/20 8:16 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: I think it’s an Ender 3 or something like that. -- --FT ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list

Re: [MBZ] Replacement Key Head for 124

2020-01-14 Thread MG via Mercedes
At the UF print lab where they will do printing for a reasonable cost they have a printer that uses a carbon fiber embedded plastic that they have used to produce motorcycle brake and clutch levers that are almost impossible to break. MG Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: Something as a small

Re: [MBZ] Replacement Key Head for 124

2020-01-14 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Yeah, I’ve looked at a couple. For now I’ve been able to get everything I’m interested in (so far) from Thingverse. It’s frighteningly HUGE as far as 3D files and subject matter. Don’t go looking there without some time on your hands. -D > On Jan 14, 2020, at 9:41 AM, Curley McLain via

Re: [MBZ] Replacement Key Head for 124

2020-01-14 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
Max,  Dan,   there are several 3D modelling software apps that are free or cheap.    Most of them are easy to learn, and are used for gradeshcool or Jr High kids. Dan Penoff via Mercedes January 14, 2020 at 7:57 AM Something as a small as a key head won’t take a

Re: [MBZ] Replacement Key Head for 124

2020-01-14 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Something as a small as a key head won’t take a lot of material or time. The question is, what would be durable enough for a key head? Once you can identify the right material, there are a number of offerings that have short lengths that come in an assortment of colors. -D > On Jan 14, 2020,

Re: [MBZ] Replacement Key Head for 124

2020-01-14 Thread Meade Dillon via Mercedes
I'll try to find something which can be dyed the same color as the car, I've got too many black MB keys now and need a more elegant way to keep track of which keys go with which car. Maybe color-coding will be the answer, although I would hate to ruin a perfectly good key head simply to change

Re: [MBZ] Replacement Key Head for 124

2020-01-14 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Sure. Send me the files and I’ll knock them out. Do understand that there are a wide range of materials available for 3D printing. Look here: https://smile.amazon.com/s?k=3d+printing+filament=2JF2L95MP97R2=3d+printing%2Caps%2C258=nb_sb_ss_i_2_11 Look down at the choices under “3D Printing

Re: [MBZ] Replacement Key Head for 124

2020-01-14 Thread Meade Dillon via Mercedes
Sounds like I need to find (or create) the files to make the two halves of the key head and send them down to you for printing. - Max Charleston SC On Tue, Jan 14, 2020 at 8:17 AM Dan Penoff via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > I got a printer courtesy of a credit card

Re: [MBZ] Replacement Key Head for 124

2020-01-14 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
I got a printer courtesy of a credit card scam someone tried to accomplish on my youngest son. His credit card got compromised and someone ordered two 3D printers with it. The bank reversed the fraudulent charges and he thought that was it, not knowing what they were for. A few weeks later two

Re: [MBZ] Replacement Key Head for 124

2020-01-13 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
I've often thought about getting a printer but I've got no skilz on the design side making it fairly impractical. Our house is so small it'd be inconvenient too ASFAIK prints easily run into tens of hours... -Curt On Monday, January 13, 2020, 4:11:32 PM EST, Curley McLain via Mercedes

Re: [MBZ] Replacement Key Head for 124

2020-01-13 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
here's a printer for $200.  You can create the file, then go inta biz, https://www.monoprice.com/product?p_id=40108=res_source=200109_email_seg_medium=email_content=cadet_button_campaign=200110_cadet_comingsoon=DM7722 Curt Raymond via Mercedes January 13, 2020 at

Re: [MBZ] Replacement Key Head for 124

2020-01-13 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
I'd have thought somebody would have already designed one but a search on Thingverse came up negative... -Curt On Sunday, January 12, 2020, 1:58:21 PM EST, fmiser wrote: > Curt wrote: > I made one out of spruce. It lasted tolerably well considering > my poor woodworking skills. I've

Re: [MBZ] Replacement Key Head for 124

2020-01-12 Thread fmiser via Mercedes
> Curt wrote: > I made one out of spruce. It lasted tolerably well considering > my poor woodworking skills. I've still got it around somewhere. What about 3D print? Not as elegant, for sure. But easy and effective. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search

Re: [MBZ] Replacement Key Head for 124

2020-01-12 Thread Max Dillon via Mercedes
Mitch - yes, Wilton made one from wood, for his 300D, and that ignition cylinder is now in my long languishing cabriolet, and I have the key too. It is very nice, I simply don't have time to replicate it. Maybe Floyd can set up his DIY CNC machine to cut a batch from wood? Max Dillon

Re: [MBZ] Replacement Key Head for 124

2020-01-12 Thread Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes
I have run one of those aluminum key heads on a 123 key for a year or two and aside from the black color wearing off the corners it is as good as the day I put it on. I agree the price is steep. I was going to have a machinist friend do a run in part because my mechanic always comments on how nice

Re: [MBZ] Replacement Key Head for 124

2020-01-12 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
I made one out of spruce. It lasted tolerably well considering my poor woodworking skills. I've still got it around somewhere. Curt Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android On Sat, Jan 11, 2020 at 9:55 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes wrote: Meade Dillon via Mercedes wrote: > I bought one of these

Re: [MBZ] Replacement Key Head for 124

2020-01-11 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes
Meade Dillon via Mercedes wrote: I bought one of these for a 124 key that was missing the plastic head: https://blenddoor.com/product/billet-aluminum-key-head/ Nice product, looks and feels good. We'll see how long it will hold up, undoubtably a lot longer than the cheapo plastic replacements

Re: [MBZ] Replacement Key Head for 124

2020-01-11 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Yeah, I guess I could see that. Agreed. They’re a bit pricey, I thought, but the one I saw a few years ago was very nice. -D > On Jan 11, 2020, at 3:57 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes > wrote: > > > I think the most possible scenario would be your right hand or arm striking > that area, and

Re: [MBZ] Replacement Key Head for 124

2020-01-11 Thread Max Dillon via Mercedes
I think the most possible scenario would be your right hand or arm striking that area, and yes that would be a minor concern in such a collision. Point is, other than the price, there is much to like about it, not much to quibble about. Max Dillon Charleston SC Jan 11, 2020 3:19:32 PM Dan

Re: [MBZ] Replacement Key Head for 124

2020-01-11 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
If you’re worried about getting gouged in a collision from the ignition key you’ve got far more issues to be concerned about, I would think. I’m not sure how you could hit or contact the ignition in an impact in a W124. Wouldn’t it be “behind” the steering wheel? I’ve seen those key heads.