Re: [MBZ] Shop cooling

On June 30, 2016 at 12:21 AM Curley McLain via Mercedes wrote:Propane is $.89 a gallon now. Whazzit? R600? That might make an economical refrigerant for the shop.Economical, but I wonder about purity. The best stuff that's bought by the gallon is HD5, which is at least 90%

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n via Mercedes" <mercedes@okiebenz.com> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" <mercedes@okiebenz.com> Cc: "Kaleb C. Striplin" <ka...@striplin.net> Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2016 4:47 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Shop cooling ___ http://www.

Re: [MBZ] Shop cooling Wuz: Large Quantity Rheem 4 Ton R410A Split System Air Conditioners - Super Price!

Those Surplus City Liquidator prices look pretty darn good, if shipping is reasonable they would probably beat the prices of the place that I linked. - Max Charleston SC On Thu, Jun 30, 2016 at 12:27 AM, Curley McLain via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > I've bought stuff

Re: [MBZ] Shop cooling Wuz: Large Quantity Rheem 4 Ton R410A Split System Air Conditioners - Super Price!

This is normally about as cheap as 4 ton condensers get:https://www.acwholesalers.com/Goodman-Air-Conditioner/VSX140481-4-Ton-14-SEER-Air-Conditioner-Condenser-with-R410A/67115.ac ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives

Re: [MBZ] Shop cooling Wuz: Large Quantity Rheem 4 Ton R410A Split System Air Conditioners - Super Price!

That looks like it’s just the condenser/compressor, no air handler/evaporator. Some good deals there. Dan > On Jun 30, 2016, at 12:27 AM, Curley McLain via Mercedes > wrote: > > I've bought stuff from deze guys. Dunno if max's place is cheaper, but > these guys

Re: [MBZ] Shop cooling

Propane is $.89 a gallon now. Whazzit? R600? That might make an economical refrigerant for the shop. R290. Fairly close to R22, isn't it? -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or

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gt;>> >>> - Original Message - From: "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes" >>> <mercedes@okiebenz.com> >>> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" <mercedes@okiebenz.com> >>> Cc: "Kaleb C. Striplin" <ka...@striplin.net> &

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would; Don has the outside unit. ;<) Wilton - Original Message - From: "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes" <mercedes@okiebenz.com> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" <mercedes@okiebenz.com> Cc: "Kaleb C. Striplin" <ka...@striplin.net> Sent: Tue

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Don't forget the "open-to-underside-of-roof" aspect of it. Wilt - Original Message - From: "archer75--- via Mercedes" <mercedes@okiebenz.com> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" <mercedes@okiebenz.com> Cc: <arche...@embarqmail.com> Sent: We

Re: [MBZ] Shop cooling

I have four solar powered roof vent fans, plus a gable fan exhausting a VERY hot attic. On Wed, Jun 29, 2016 at 3:20 PM, G Mann via Mercedes wrote: > Something that you could do to gain on the fight against heat load for the > building is to install a couple of attic fans

Re: [MBZ] Shop cooling

Something that you could do to gain on the fight against heat load for the building is to install a couple of attic fans in the gables. Typically, they are 3 speed fans, with louvers that are blown open by the fan, and a screen to keep critters out. Home creepo and Lowes has them.. as a starting

Re: [MBZ] Shop cooling

You need lower openings to let fresh (cooler?) air in - now air in, no air out. Again, the sizes need to be matched. An old rule of thumb was that the inlet needs to be twice the outlet for convection air flow. On Tue, Jun 28, 2016 at 6:21 PM, G Mann via Mercedes wrote: >

Re: [MBZ] Shop cooling

If you take the shop dimensions, and thickness and type of insulation, to a big A/C dealer and ask them to run it through their computer program, they can tell you how big the A/C would have to be. I did that with my shop and found that after the shop was finished, the dealers program was

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Or you can use the R-22 equivalent offered by Envirosafe, the same company that sells the e-12 that some of us use in our cars. Manfred Who has 6 cans of the stuff on the shelf. Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2016 16:36:18 -0500 From: OK Don Yes - some local A/C shops recycle/reclaim

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Yes it is open to the rafters Sent from my iPhone > On Jun 28, 2016, at 6:21 PM, G Mann via Mercedes > wrote: > > Does your shop have a ceiling that is open to the rafters? No enclosed > attic space? > > If it does, you might get a very appreciable gain by installing

Re: [MBZ] Shop cooling

Does your shop have a ceiling that is open to the rafters? No enclosed attic space? If it does, you might get a very appreciable gain by installing attic fans at each end of the gables.. They move the very heated air at the top of the building out of the building, which greatly reduces the total

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Too humid here Sent from my iPhone > On Jun 28, 2016, at 6:08 PM, Craig via Mercedes wrote: > > On Tue, 28 Jun 2016 18:01:12 -0500 "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes" > wrote: > >> I figured I could just run a single run duct down the middle with

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On Tue, 28 Jun 2016 18:01:12 -0500 "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes" wrote: > I figured I could just run a single run duct down the middle with vents > out the side like I have seen in commercial type buildings. I would > probably have to get somebody to hook it up as I

Re: [MBZ] Shop cooling

gt;> From: Joel Cairo via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com> >>> To: mercedes@okiebenz.com >>> Cc: Joel Cairo <buggeredbenzm...@gmail.com> >>> Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2016 5:34 PM >>> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Shop cooling >>> >>

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rt need not be cooled. >> -Curt >> >> From: Joel Cairo via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com> >> To: mercedes@okiebenz.com >> Cc: Joel Cairo <buggeredbenzm...@gmail.com> >> Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2016 5:34 PM >> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Shop coolin

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t; mercedes@okiebenz.com> >>> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" <mercedes@okiebenz.com> >>> Cc: "Kaleb C. Striplin" <ka...@striplin.net> >>> Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2016 4:47 PM >>> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Shop cooling >>> &

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ore comfortable. > -Curt > > From: OK Don <okd...@gmail.com> > To: Curt Raymond <curtlud...@yahoo.com>; Mercedes Discussion List > <mercedes@okiebenz.com> > Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2016 5:38 PM > Subject: Re: [MBZ] Shop cooling > > I think

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s Discussion List <mercedes@okiebenz.com> Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2016 5:38 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Shop cooling I think that degree of organization is far beyond Kaleb's abilities (and mine as well). On Tue, Jun 28, 2016 at 4:36 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebe

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t; Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2016 5:34 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Shop cooling Get one of those big curtains to block off the part of the shop you do work in and you can go with a much smaller unit just to cool that part. --JC -- --BB ___ http://www.okiebenz.c

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ge part need not be cooled. > -Curt > > From: Joel Cairo via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com> > To: mercedes@okiebenz.com > Cc: Joel Cairo <buggeredbenzm...@gmail.com> > Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2016 5:34 PM > Subject: Re: [MBZ] Shop cooling > >

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e 28, 2016 5:34 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Shop cooling Get one of those big curtains to block off the part of the shop you do work in and you can go with a much smaller unit just to cool that part. --JC On 6/28/16 5:11 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote: > I put "how mu

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To: "Mercedes Discussion List" <mercedes@okiebenz.com> >> Cc: "Kaleb C. Striplin" <ka...@striplin.net> >> Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2016 4:47 PM >> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Shop cooling >> >> >> Is it the inside and outside unit or just th

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Get one of those big curtains to block off the part of the shop you do work in and you can go with a much smaller unit just to cool that part. --JC On 6/28/16 5:11 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote: I put "how much ac for 2400 sq ft" into the gargler and got:

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> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" <mercedes@okiebenz.com> Cc: "Kaleb C. Striplin" <ka...@striplin.net> Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2016 4:47 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Shop cooling Is it the inside and outside unit or just the outside unit? I would need both I would guess.

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I put "how much ac for 2400 sq ft" into the gargler and got:  http://michaelbluejay.com/electricity/hvac-sizing.htmlwhich suggests based on the map and chart that you'll need 4 tons, maybe more, I don't know exactly where you are in Okieland. A smaller AC unit wouldn't do the job entirely but

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riplin.net> Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2016 4:47 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Shop cooling Is it the inside and outside unit or just the outside unit? I would need both I would guess. On 6/28/2016 3:39 PM, OK Don via Mercedes wrote: I have a 5 ton R22 compressor/condenser unit that you can have for comi

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Just the outside unit. You'd have to find/buy a 5 ton R-22 inside unit to go with it. On Tue, Jun 28, 2016 at 3:47 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Is it the inside and outside unit or just the outside unit? I would need > both I would guess. > > > > On

Re: [MBZ] Shop cooling

Is it the inside and outside unit or just the outside unit? I would need both I would guess. On 6/28/2016 3:39 PM, OK Don via Mercedes wrote: I have a 5 ton R22 compressor/condenser unit that you can have for coming to get it - - - it is supposed to work, but it's been sitting in the hangar

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I have a 5 ton R22 compressor/condenser unit that you can have for coming to get it - - - it is supposed to work, but it's been sitting in the hangar from before I bought this place. On Tue, Jun 28, 2016 at 2:54 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > So earlier I

Re: [MBZ] Shop cooling

I have the 2 gas heaters out there but they need to be hooked up to propane. If I was able to snag a heat pump that would be even better I suppose. On 6/28/2016 3:10 PM, Joel Cairo via Mercedes wrote: You would need to do a calculation on what size you would need based on the size of the

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Generally a new unit will come with a full charge of refrigerant. I use this place, great prices for two heat pumps several years ago, R410 with SEER 13 rating: http://www.shop.thefurnaceoutlet.com/main.sc Free shipping above a certain price point, you can download the installation manuals so

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You would need to do a calculation on what size you would need based on the size of the space, the insulation, doors, and such. Or call an AC guy and they could probably give you a rough idea to get maybe 20deg difference inside v. outside (80F inside, 100F outside). Does it get cold there in