Re: [MBZ] Topsider

2005-08-28 Thread David Brodbeck
OK Don wrote: Wipe hands before entering the house, use Gojo or similar waterless hand cleaner - and use an old tooth brush to get under and around the finger nails. Gojo is great stuff. I'm probably the last one in the world to discover this, but it also works great for getting oily stains

Re: [MBZ] 123 Brakes

2005-08-28 Thread David Brodbeck
TimothyPilgrim wrote: I had the reverse problem one time. I pushed down on the brake and it went totally soft, almost to the floor. Scared the hell outta me because I was on the highway at the time doing 70 mph. I got off the highway onto slower streets, and the problem has never happened

Re: [MBZ] mobile-1 1800 mile test

2005-08-28 Thread David Brodbeck
Peter Frederick wrote: Note that dino oil , of any type, should NOT be run more than 3000 miles between changes. That's probably true in diesel Mercedes engines, but it's NOT necessarily true for other makes. My Honda Civic's owner's manual recommended 7500 mile changes on dino oil, or 3000

Re: [MBZ] Neutral Sefety Switch

2005-08-28 Thread David Brodbeck
Royce Engler wrote: Must be a sailor thing...I hard wired in a remote start switch on mine as well. Comes in handy to spin the engine when I'm doing maintenance. I always wanted one in my VW van, but never got around to it. It was a long walk from the engine compartment up to the ignition

Re: [MBZ] Neutral Sefety Switch

2005-08-28 Thread LT Don
actually, it is an aviation thing -- I was a sailor but in twenty years I spent a total of 3 days at sea (during OCS and under duress) and 1600 hours up in the air. On 8/27/05, David Brodbeck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Royce Engler wrote: Must be a sailor thing...I hard wired in a remote

Re: [MBZ] Dead bulb light - 126

2005-08-28 Thread OK Don
I finally got to look at the brake lights - the third brake light in the rear window is burnt out! When the car comes back I'll change it and see if the bomb warning turns off. -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK '87 300SDL '81 240D '78 450SLC The FSM created the Diesel Benz http://www.venganza.org/

[MBZ] OT intelligent design

2005-08-28 Thread Dwight E. Giles, Jr.
I am with you on the Flying Spaghetti monster theory. Cool. Dwight Giles, Jr. 1979 240D auto, 243K+ miles Wickford RI -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of OK Don Sent: Saturday, August 27, 2005 7:17 PM To: Mercedes mailing list Subject: Re:

Re: [MBZ] gun post (car only guys delete)

2005-08-28 Thread JabbaHursty
he started with a .25 beretta and then went to 7.62. 7.62mm is .32 ACP. .380 is 9mm, but shorter than the more popular 9mm luger At 04:20 PM 8/27/2005, you wrote: you sure it was a .32 and not a .380 ? won't swear to it, but I remember it being a .380 beretta then he had the 7.62 Walther

Re: [MBZ] gun post (car only guys delete)

2005-08-28 Thread JabbaHursty
it's an endless source of debate, but there seems more to it than calculating simple force i tend to be in the big and slow camp. 230grain hollowpoint .45 ACP is my choice for carry. in terms of a defensive handgun, my thought is .45 ACP or .357 magnum i just got the casull to be

Re: [MBZ] gun post (car only guys delete)

2005-08-28 Thread JabbaHursty
i can't really fully grasp why the military changed from such a completely proven and effective weapon as the 1911. i'm told it was cost savings. i also suspect that the influx of women into the military also has something to do with it (not that a woman could not be trained in the use of

Re: [MBZ] gun post (car only guys delete)

2005-08-28 Thread JabbaHursty
230 grain federal hydrashok .45ACP is what I'm betting on. At 04:41 PM 8/27/2005, you wrote: Higher velocity maybe, but if you need to use one in self defense they are totally worthless. I totally refused to carry the M9 and went with the M23 sig in .40 You run into someone messed up on drugs

Re: [MBZ] gun post (car only guys delete)

2005-08-28 Thread JabbaHursty
and the .45 is for serious guys while the 9 is a eurochic pellet gun, right? At 05:12 PM 8/27/2005, you wrote: Force is mass*acceleration, kinetic energy is 1/2 * mv^2. Sorry, too much engineering for me to let that go. On 8/27/05, Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The .45 is like the

Re: [MBZ] mobile-1 1800 mile test

2005-08-28 Thread 72benz250
The answer of course is it depends. This is the way it was explained to me. Using dino oil for 10-20-30 years leaves behind sludge. The sludge froms in front of mating serfaces and allowes gaskets to dry out. It used to be adding synthetic, that had so many more cleaners and was more fuild

Re: [MBZ] gun post (car only guys delete)

2005-08-28 Thread JabbaHursty
it's referred to as 7.62MM though in the movies, so it would have to be a .32 At 06:02 PM 8/27/2005, you wrote: NOPE. It was a .25 ACP Beretta that was replaced with a 9mmKurz/.380 (same thing) PPK. Sure of it. Christopher --- Harry M.) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: you sure it was a .32 and

Re: [MBZ] 70.905.00.20.9 AC switch

2005-08-28 Thread 72benz250
Yeah, thanks. Reminds me of a saying. stupid people are like slinkies. Useless, but still puts a smile on your face when you push them down stairs ;) George -- Original message -- busted

Re: [MBZ] mobile-1 1800 mile test

2005-08-28 Thread Marshall Booth
Peter Frederick wrote: Snort! You may not be old enough to remember the unofficial test reported by a chief engineer at Ford in the early 70's when Mobil first started selling Mobil 1. Seems Mobil had sent for some for engine testing when they got around to it and it got stashed in the

Re: [MBZ] gun post (car only guys delete)

2005-08-28 Thread JabbaHursty
yeah, i regret getting the glock instead of a sig for my .40 At 06:19 PM 8/27/2005, you wrote: My sig .40 is my favorite, even my wife can handle it Christopher McCann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Pretty sure he carries the 9mm Walther P99 now. Wouldn;t mind have a .40cal P99. --- OK Don [EMAIL

Re: [MBZ] gun post (car only guys delete)

2005-08-28 Thread Chuck Landenberger
Is anybody else tired of deleting this gun post thread Chuck On Aug 27, 2005, at 6:49 PM, JabbaHursty wrote: federal hydrashok 230grain

Re: [MBZ] gun post (car only guys delete)

2005-08-28 Thread Steve MacSween
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is anybody else tired of deleting this gun post thread YEAH I thought this is what Banned was for? Mac

Re: [MBZ] mobile-1 1800 mile test

2005-08-28 Thread Marshall Booth
Harry M. wrote: Since there is a thread here on oil I was curious to ask if anyone has used Mobil 1 and had problems with leaks prior to using? Question is does it leak more or less after switching ? Depends! If a hole is partially or entirely blocked by engine sludge, then changing to a

Re: [MBZ] 70.905.00.20.9 AC switch

2005-08-28 Thread redghost
I have a spare if you need it. Push me down the stairs or not On Saturday, August 27, 2005, at 06:46 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yeah, thanks.   Reminds me of a saying.   stupid people are like slinkies. Useless, but still puts a smile on your face when you push them down stairs   ;)  

Re: [MBZ] gun post (car only guys delete)

2005-08-28 Thread JabbaHursty
I sure am! damn gun nuts At 09:52 PM 8/27/2005, you wrote: Is anybody else tired of deleting this gun post thread Chuck On Aug 27, 2005, at 6:49 PM, JabbaHursty wrote: federal hydrashok 230grain ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To

Re: [MBZ] gun post (car only guys delete)

2005-08-28 Thread JabbaHursty
i don't go to banned anymore At 09:55 PM 8/27/2005, you wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is anybody else tired of deleting this gun post thread YEAH I thought this is what Banned was for? Mac ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To

Re: [MBZ] gun post (car only guys delete)

2005-08-28 Thread redghost
Well that would lead to a very dry day in the mercedes list. I think other than the gun thread, we have six postings. The rest of you get off your duff, unless you are hiding from the hurricane, and write On Saturday, August 27, 2005, at 06:52 PM, Chuck Landenberger wrote: Is anybody else

[MBZ] Oli Pressure gauge reads high, dosen't move!

2005-08-28 Thread hue wong
I remember this popped up a few weeks ago, but I missed it and can't find it in the archives... So when my 300td fires up, the oil pressure gauge pegs at the 3 setting on the gauge (milibar???) Then it doesn't go down when I let off the gas and let the motor idle I seem to think that it

Re: [MBZ] Oli Pressure gauge reads high, dosen't move!

2005-08-28 Thread LT Don
I think the technical term for this is NORMAL. On 8/27/05, hue wong [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I remember this popped up a few weeks ago, but I missed it and can't find it in the archives... So when my 300td fires up, the oil pressure gauge pegs at the 3 setting on the gauge (milibar???)

Re: [MBZ] Oli Pressure gauge reads high, dosen't move!

2005-08-28 Thread hue wong
Normal? really? It usta bounce around right nice before I put the car in storage Now it just kinda sticks up there at 3. Another piece of the puzzle is that I ran non-desiel rate oil for about 500-600 miles. Could that be gumming it up? --- LT Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think the

Re: [MBZ] Oli Pressure gauge reads high, dosen't move!

2005-08-28 Thread Marshall Booth
hue wong wrote: I remember this popped up a few weeks ago, but I missed it and can't find it in the archives... So when my 300td fires up, the oil pressure gauge pegs at the 3 setting on the gauge (milibar???) Then it doesn't go down when I let off the gas and let the motor idle I seem

Re: [MBZ] Oli Pressure gauge reads high, dosen't move!

2005-08-28 Thread hue wong
So to clarify as I didn't quite say it right When I say warms up... I mean HOT, like after about 50-60 miles. and even then it would not always drop down after that I seem to remember that the gauge would start bounceing around, just after a few minutes when I first got the car,

Re: [MBZ] Oli Pressure gauge reads high, dosen't move!

2005-08-28 Thread Marshall Booth
hue wong wrote: Normal? really? It usta bounce around right nice before I put the car in storage Now it just kinda sticks up there at 3. Another piece of the puzzle is that I ran non-desiel rate oil for about 500-600 miles. Could that be gumming it up? Approved oil of the proper

Re: [MBZ] Oli Pressure gauge reads high, dosen't move!

2005-08-28 Thread hue wong
Ya, I think I might have mixed the oil I had, what I think was a loose oil return tube, off the bottom of the air intake... It leaked oil like a feind, so I started dumping in gas station oil. Different makes of oil, and I always try and run 10-30, but am sure I mixed viscosity at some

Re: [MBZ] Oli Pressure gauge reads high, dosen't move!

2005-08-28 Thread Marshall Booth
hue wong wrote: Ya, I think I might have mixed the oil I had, what I think was a loose oil return tube, off the bottom of the air intake... It leaked oil like a feind, so I started dumping in gas station oil. Different makes of oil, and I always try and run 10-30, but am sure I mixed

Re: [MBZ] Oli Pressure gauge reads high, dosen't move!

2005-08-28 Thread hue wong
'84 300td Not sure if it's running at six, don't think so ( it's not running low, that is for sure... Jumps right up there and never comes down...) I just wanted to make sure it wasn't something I've run gassers for years, but am new to the deseils, not to sure of thier little quirks

Re: [MBZ] Oli Pressure gauge reads high, dosen't move!

2005-08-28 Thread hue wong
'84 300td Not sure if it's running at six, don't think so ( it's not running low, that is for sure... Jumps right up there and never comes down...) I just wanted to make sure it wasn't something I've run gassers for years, but am new to the deseils, not to sure of thier little quirks

Re: [MBZ] Topsider

2005-08-28 Thread 72benz250
I got my gojo from costco. Came in a gallon for under 5$. My great grand kids will be using it ;) -- Original message -- OK Don wrote: Wipe hands before entering the house, use Gojo or similar waterless hand cleaner - and use an old tooth brush to get under and

Re: [MBZ] Oli Pressure gauge reads high, dosen't move!

2005-08-28 Thread JabbaHursty
what does this have to do with guns? At 10:47 PM 8/27/2005, you wrote: hue wong wrote: I remember this popped up a few weeks ago, but I missed it and can't find it in the archives... So when my 300td fires up, the oil pressure gauge pegs at the 3 setting on the gauge (milibar???) Then

Re: [MBZ] Topsider

2005-08-28 Thread David Brodbeck
Craig McCluskey wrote: On Sun, 28 Aug 2005 03:50:35 + [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I got my gojo from costco. Came in a gallon for under 5$. My great grand kids will be using it ;) Then again, maybe not. I find that the stuff separates (particularly if left in a warm garage) after a

Re: [MBZ] gun post (car only guys delete)

2005-08-28 Thread Harry  M.
Never understood what was so great about the glock. just because it has a polymer frame and it can shoot under water. So can my sig JabbaHursty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: yeah, i regret getting the glock instead of a sig for my .40 At 06:19 PM 8/27/2005, you wrote: My sig .40 is my favorite,

Re: [MBZ] Neutral Sefety Switch

2005-08-28 Thread Royce Engler
Oh yeah, I forgot about you being one of those candy-a$$ed flyboys GRIN Sailors belong on ships and ships belong at sea!!! Haze gray and underway Here's a cool picture of a new test ship being evaluated... http://www.strategypage.com/gallery/articles/military_photos_20058271.asp Royce

Re: [MBZ] gun post (car only guys delete)

2005-08-28 Thread Mitch Haley
JabbaHursty wrote: i can't really fully grasp why the military changed from such a completely proven and effective weapon as the 1911. i'm told it was cost savings. i also suspect that the influx of women into the military also has something to do with it (not that a woman could not be

Re: [MBZ] Oli Pressure gauge reads high, dosen't move!

2005-08-28 Thread Marshall Booth
hue wong wrote: '84 300td Not sure if it's running at six, don't think so ( it's not running low, that is for sure... Jumps right up there and never comes down...) I just wanted to make sure it wasn't something I've run gassers for years, but am new to the deseils, not to sure of

Re: [MBZ] Oli Pressure gauge reads high, dosen't move!

2005-08-28 Thread Marshall Booth
JabbaHursty wrote: what does this have to do with guns? Thank God for Hursty - always keeping us on track! Marshall -- Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond to unsigned questions) der Dieseling Doktor [EMAIL PROTECTED] '87 300TD 181Kmi,'87 190D 2.5 199Kmi, '84 190D 2.2 227Kmi,

Re: [MBZ] gun post (car only guys delete)

2005-08-28 Thread Tom Hargrave
It was a political move designed to more align is with out NATO allies. The same allies who for the most part, sat back and watched us invade Iraq. There were other motivators, the biggest one being the weight of the ammunition. Thanks, Tom Hargrave 256-656-1924 www.kegkits.com -Original

[MBZ] List Splitting

2005-08-28 Thread Dan Landiss
Re: list splitting. 206 messages in 24 hours is sufficient cause. I'll hang around another day or so to see if the content justifies the volume, and if this keeps up I'll take a vacation and look back in later. -- Never argue with a dragon, for you are crunchy and taste good with ketchup.

Re: [MBZ] gun post (car only guys delete)

2005-08-28 Thread RAH
Curt Raymond wrote: The .45 is like the lottery, a tax on people who are bad at math. Force is mass times the square of velocity. The 9mm is MUCH higher velocity than the .45 with insignificantly less mass. The 9mm simply has more stopping power with less recoil and weight than the .45.

Re: [MBZ] GUNS AND THE REALITY

2005-08-28 Thread MClaus8331

Re: [MBZ] GUNS AND THE REALITY

2005-08-28 Thread TimothyPilgrim
Steve, you're in Canada. Why on Earth were you shot at up here? Tim 1982 300TD Moby On 8/28/05, Steve MacSween [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sorry for your ex-partner. I have been shot at twice in my life, it isn't a whole lot of fun. mac

Re: [MBZ] 123 Brakes

2005-08-28 Thread TimothyPilgrim
Well, this happened while I was going straight down the highway at speed. No cornering involved. I've also had times when my brakes would be piss poor after the car sat for a while. There'd be a good shudder under braking. I'd drive really carefully on backroads for a while while applying pressure

Re: [MBZ] gun post (car only guys delete)

2005-08-28 Thread JabbaHursty
it may be something as they are sold cheaply in bulk to law enforcement At 07:01 AM 8/28/2005, you wrote: Never understood what was so great about the glock. just because it has a polymer frame and it can shoot under water. So can my sig JabbaHursty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: yeah, i regret

Re: [MBZ] GUNS AND THE REALITY

2005-08-28 Thread JabbaHursty
he lives in quebec At 12:23 PM 8/28/2005, you wrote: Steve, you're in Canada. Why on Earth were you shot at up here? Tim 1982 300TD Moby On 8/28/05, Steve MacSween [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sorry for your ex-partner. I have been shot at twice in my life, it isn't a whole lot of fun.

Re: [MBZ] GUNS AND THE REALITY

2005-08-28 Thread Steve MacSween
The first one was a fluke, when I was about 15 growing up in Montreal, drunken crazy old guy with a shotgun thought that was how you settled noise complaints with parties next door. Second time, I drove into a holdup of a gas station. Mac [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Steve, you're in Canada. Why

[MBZ] 240d - 300sd auto trans the same?

2005-08-28 Thread Steve MacSween
Is the auto trans used in the w123 240d, say 1982, the same 'small' unit as the one used in the w126 300sd (which if memory serves was a 1982- change to the smaller unit?). Mac

Re: [MBZ] List Splitting

2005-08-28 Thread jrobbins
Personally, the traffic doesn't really bother me, but I can see how that much would bother others... would be nice to have a MBZ list and then a general chat MBZ list... would make the filtering significantly easier ;) John On Sun, 28 Aug 2005, Dan Landiss wrote: Re: list splitting. 206

[MBZ] RR of rear trailing arm bushings 82 300SD

2005-08-28 Thread RAH
Has anyone RR the rear trailing arm bushings on a 126 (82 300SD) while replacing the front bushing of the rear subframe? Can this be done with the spring in place? FSM only shows RR of bushings while rear trailing arm is completely removed from car.Russ H.

Re: [MBZ] R-12

2005-08-28 Thread ms.300SD
Wow. I guess I got the super deal with I was the only bidder on a 30# tank of virgin freon. 250.00 delivered to the house The 300SD is quite chilly once again! Yay! Lynn '85 300SD 190k miles

Re: [MBZ] Neutral safety switch

2005-08-28 Thread Dennis Perkins
Lt. Don and all who contributed, Thanks for the info. I'm going to wtart with the switch then on to the ignition switch if that doesn't work. Dennis Perkins 84 300SD Subject: Re: [MBZ] Neutral safety switch To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

[MBZ] 84 300Dt Climate Control

2005-08-28 Thread Russ Williams
A buddy of mine has a '84 300Dt and is having problems with his A/C. Here's whats happing. When he turns on the A/C it will blow cold air for about 2 or 3 days. Then the Blower Motor fuse No.8 blows and also the Rear window Defrost fuse No.10 blows. I haven't had time to pull the blower motor

Re: [MBZ] List Splitting

2005-08-28 Thread Rory
Get a gmail account and who cares how msgs. you get, it has a nice format treads. Rory On 8/28/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Personally, the traffic doesn't really bother me, but I can see how that much would bother others... would be nice to have a MBZ list and then a

Re: [MBZ] Topsider

2005-08-28 Thread OK Don
Then you don't have enough old Benz's! On 8/27/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I got my gojo from costco. Came in a gallon for under 5$. My great grand kids will be using it ;) -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK '87 300SDL '81 240D '78 450SLC The FSM created the Diesel

Re: [MBZ] Topsider

2005-08-28 Thread OK Don
You can stir it up again -- Then again, maybe not. I find that the stuff separates (particularly if left in a warm garage) after a couple of years or so. It still works okay as a hand cleaner after it's separated, in my experience. It's just less convenient because it's runnier. --

Re: [MBZ] gun post (car only guys delete)

2005-08-28 Thread David Brodbeck
Tom Hargrave wrote: It was a political move designed to more align is with out NATO allies. The same allies who for the most part, sat back and watched us invade Iraq. Maybe they smelled the bullshit when Colin Powell told them why we were invading. Gotta admit, he had me fooled, though.

Re: [MBZ] gun post (car only guys delete)

2005-08-28 Thread Curt Raymond
Agreed. I'm in the smaller, lighter, faster camp. Allows me to carry more ammunition, be more accurate, have less recoil, and shoot more often. The guy who just knocked the cow down was almost certainly using hollow point bullets. Cow's gotta thick skull, you hit it there with a hollow point

Re: [MBZ] gun post (car only guys delete)

2005-08-28 Thread Curt Raymond
Actually it reads more like small and slow vs. big and slow. I like shooting a .38, there are many well balanced comfortable .38s but they've got zip for stopping power even compared to the 9mm. -Curt Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2005 12:10:46 -0400 From: RAH [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] gun

Re: [MBZ] THE REALITY

2005-08-28 Thread Bucks2
My sympathy to you and yours. It is never the right time to lose one of the good guys. Ken Tacoma Fire In a message dated 8/27/2005 10:17:43 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [MBZ] GUNS AND THE REALITY To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL

Re: [MBZ] List Splitting

2005-08-28 Thread Bucks2
I agree Dick. Let's throw the diesel stuff off and get back to talking about real Mercedes. One could think that the diesel folks could have their own oil discussion list and the rest of us could discuss general stuff. Ken YTTIC In a message dated 8/28/2005 11:01:01 AM Pacific Daylight Time,

[MBZ] Finally fixed my sagging rear - on my car, that is

2005-08-28 Thread meadedillon
Shipmates, Yesterday I had a few spare hours, so I installed a new control valve (thanks Rusty - less than $200!!) for the self-leveling system on rear axle of my '85 300TD. Loaded down the back of the car with ~400lbs, bled it out, cycled it up and down a few times. Unloaded the car, and