What are you wanting to know? How the lists came to be? Here is the
short version. There was the dave lefarber list which still exists but
has no traffic. People got tired of Cookies over there flaming everyone
etc so that is when the Ritter/Easley list started. At the same time
there was
Finally got the RustyQ 2006 pictures up at okiebenz.com that Regina took
at the RustyQ. You can access them from the main page by clicking on
the rustyQ button, or click here
http://www.okiebenz.com/rustyq/rustyQ06/
--
Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK
(2x) 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89
I would have bought it, but you are too far away.
Peter T. Arnold wrote:
Having found no interest while selling my Benz, I have elected to keep
it in the family and allow my Grandson to adopt it.
He is 18 and not a gear head. He'll drive and maintain it as long as
I assi$t, and instruct.
A
I would have been interested too, but trying to find a local car. I'm sure
your Grandson will love it, and you for gifting it to him.
Zeb
On 31/12/06, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I would have bought it, but you are too far away.
Peter T. Arnold wrote:
Having found no
All,
I'm interested in selling my 1959 220S would much rather sell to a list
member than someone else. It's in North Alabama.
Please email me questions through the group if interested so that I can
answer questions through the group in case others have the same questions.
And no,
Absolutely amazing photos! Tell us - is that a 450 V8 in the 240D? Now
that we have the 91 300D and have tasted what a marvel the diesel has become
(to that time) I keep looking at my 78 240D thinking it might be a good
candidate for a transplant of a small block V6 or V8 from a GM or Ford
BTW, are there any kits out there for installing a V6 or V8 in a W123?
Much less trouble, and of far more interest to most of us, is putting
a 300D turbo engine in instead. Lots of rust/wrecks out there still.
-- Jim
That is because you are a mechanical God who can make a car out of
spare microwave sheet metal. I am simple and can not figure out how to
make that quartz fit the hole in Gump. It is a wonder I even
procreated.
Not really. The clock, of course, wouldn't be giving you any help!
Seriously, it
Hi Larry,
Why not really go to town and stuff a 6.9 in there and find some period
correct AMG stuff for the car. I have an old AMG (Hammer era) catalog and
some of the kits for the W123 were pretty cool. They even had one for the
wagon. Hee hee, a 6.9 in a W123...that would leave a few guys at
Thanks, Kaleb - I wasn't aware of just what the timing (or the reason) for
the Ritter/Easley list origination, or just how Richard Sexton got involved.
I was fully involved with the old MBCA lists, and was ashamed of how a few
empire builders treated Kathy, who gave her all for the good of mthe
Larry - if you really wanted a challenge, then locate the engine and tranny
(a ZF unit)from a BMW 524TD, or even a Lincoln Mark LSC with that BMW
engine. It is a smooth 6 cylinder, very strong, and would make that 240
seem to fly. The US versions of the 524 were only sold here in '85 and '86
E M wrote:
Ever see the article about 15 years ago with the guy who stuffed all the
running gear from a 928 into a Rabbit. ha ha ha.
Did you see the 993 Turbo in a Type 1 (split window) VW transporter?
There's a video of it running at Spa, passing a V12 Aston Martin
and a Porsche turbo, filmed
I replaced the type A ATF in my manual 240D with Mobil 1 ATF a couple
of years ago (at aprrox. 170k miles) and it is a little smoother and
quieter. Granted, the PO had not changed the old ATF in a long time.
YMMV.
On 12/31/06, Dwight E. Giles, Jr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
John,
Follow the creed
I'm not up on the pre-114/5 cars - is this a W111, 220Sb? (W111.012
with M180.941)?
On 12/31/06, Tom Hargrave [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I'm interested in selling my 1959 220S would much rather sell to a list
member than someone else. It's in North Alabama.
Please email me questions through the
Perhaps some photos of the board it should mount to, and the back of
the clock would help?
Seriously, it was a zero-brainer. Something must be fishy about
the Gumpster if it doesn't just drop right in.
-- Jim
--
OK Don, KD5NRO
Norman, OK
Even if you're on the right track, you'll get run
Sorry to sound like a broken record - but the engine of choice would
be the 603.96x !
Install the aluminum block V6 - V8 in the MGB. I put an Olds 215 V8
aluminum block in an MGA back in my youth --- LOTS of fun to drive!
--
OK Don, KD5NRO
Norman, OK
Even if you're on the right track, you'll
This is the last year of the earlier round body Mercedes. It's the W180
sedan with a M180.924 engine. 55,279 were produced from 3/56 through 8/59.
This web site will tell you a lot:
http://www.mbzponton.org/
Here's a photo gallery of 220S and 220a (an earlier model) Mercedes.
First jiggle on the gearshifter while starting. Next pull on the fan belt
and see if the crankpulley moves. If the first on doesn't work and the
pulley moves, offrer him $ 300 and get a new starter for half the profits.
On 12/31/06, Alex Chamberlain [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Listers,
I'm
Missed my point. *American* english and the society that created it is at
fault. The religeous sectismus (how many kinds of Christians are there?)
helped it along.
*English* English doesn't have foul 4-letter words, nor does French,
Dutch, German, Italian and on and on.
I stick with (4 letters)
I think I want one. :-)
Zeb
On 31/12/06, Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
E M wrote:
Ever see the article about 15 years ago with the guy who stuffed all the
running gear from a 928 into a Rabbit. ha ha ha.
Did you see the 993 Turbo in a Type 1 (split window) VW transporter?
There's a
Thank you all for your replies to my ATF question. I'm glad to know
that there are several solutions. I think I will try and find some
Mobil 1 ATF first.
John Ingram
83 240D 240K
Back in the old hill climbing days one of our club members put a 292 Ford V8
into a VW van, installed just behind the front seats.It would
fly..just looked all wrong 4 wheel drifting on gravel steep hills.
Dennis T
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Jim,
If you donate the 617 turbo, I'll do the conversion and document the how
to. Otherwise, i'll have to use the NA one I have.
At 07:00 PM 12/31/2006, you wrote:
BTW, are there any kits out there for installing a V6 or V8 in a W123?
Much less trouble, and of far more interest to most of
Thank you all for your input about salvage yards. We finally ended up at
Silver Star Recycling in Rancho Cordova. There, we got a hood ($125) and a
right fender ($75) and both hood hinges ($25) from a Euro 123 coupe. In
exactly the same color as our car!
Craig
Craig,
Did you look around the place? I brought a Gas inline six cylinder from them
for $349 turned out a very fair deal.
Know if they had hinges in gold for 123?
Dennis T
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Sent: Sunday,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=acevFbpMXtM
Ooooh, they may be a little pricey, best of to stick with steel:-)
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From: woodlandtaylors [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Monday, January 01, 2007 5:48 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Salvage yards in California and Oregon
Know
If you can suffer an American Christian for a moment:
I, and most given to contemplation, have analyzed what it is about certain
words that makes them unacceptable in society. The four letter word could be
buck just as easily as it could be fuck and if society has labeled it
profane, it's
Tom - I am alive thanks to a '62 22Sb, but like the 50's models better.
Doubt I could fit it into the budget this year, but how much are you asking
for it? Do you have photo's and history? I would like to visit Alabama and
look up dad's records from when he lived there. He came to FL in 1932
My total piloting experience is one takeoff and about 25 minutes in a Cessna
some years ago, but that was certainly impressive.
BillR
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Sent: Monday, January 01, 2007 2:28 AM
To:
Bob Hoover's flying is the stuff of legend - they made a longer film of his
flying the Shrike as part of the advertising for the company. It was shown
several times at the Elmendorf Aero Club back in the '70s, and that kind of
flying is still impressive to this day!
And then there's the stunt
Bill,
I can provide a list of what I've done to the car since I've owned it. I've
owned the car for about 6 years.
I'm asking $3600.00.
Thanks,
Tom Hargrave
www.kegkits.com
256-656-1924
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On Behalf Of BillR
Sent:
Tom - I am currently in legal negotiations with a recalcitrant disability
insurer. I am a bit reluctant to spend that until the suit is settled
[expecting a win, of course]. If it is not sold by then let's talk.
Happy New Year
BillR
Jacksonville FL
1981 300SD
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From:
Bill,
I understand.
Thanks,
Tom Hargrave
www.kegkits.com
256-656-1924
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of BillR
Sent: Monday, January 01, 2007 10:49 AM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1959 220S
Tom - I am currently in
I saw Bob flying a Commander just like that many years ago at an
airshow in Lawton, OK. It was truely an amazing preformance. Met him
afterwards - he was a real gentleman.
On 1/1/07, Werner Fehlauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Bob Hoover's flying is the stuff of legend - they made a longer film
I'm presently wrestling with the wife over which vehicle we'll get to
replace her aging 123 clunker. She's adamantly convinced she needs an AWD
vehicle for her alpine-related program activities (x-country ski, hike,
snowshoe, etc.), but I think it's stoopid to lug all that 4WD stuff around
for
Richard had all the seperate lists, I have basically combined all the
lists into one here with a few exceptions. The only specialty lists are
the SL list and the vets list for older cars. They are there but not
much goes on with them. Most of the activity is here and just about any
question
I agree with your wife, a rear wheel drive Mercedes is not the greatest in
the snow ice. But I have another solution. As well as Mercedes fans, we've
also been long term Jeep fans.
My Wife bought a 2006 4WD Grand Cherokee with a V6 last year and she loves
it. The system is a full time 4WD it
Well, from personal experience I can say that a well designed system has no
reason not to lug around all that extra stuff. I've had and known more
than a couple Suby's and The only AWD issue I ever recall was a minor
tendancy for the center clutches to grab around turns which was only because
we
Casey - I'd bet that she would just love an ML320CDI - probably not that
much different in price from the Audi. A new Diesel, quiet, and lots of
go, and plenty of room for skis and stuff! Check out the MBUSA site
Werner
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From: Zeitgeist [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To:
The Hirshman antenna on my '81 300SD only goes down to the last section.
Car wash jockey banged on it the last time and now it won't go up all the
way. I am suspecting that a replacement is in order. What am I looking at,
or what is recommended to get it working properly? I have seen them from
The lower cost universal replacements are not worth the trouble. They don't
have the correct connection for Mercedes antenna cable, plus they are
incredibly cheap.
Thanks,
Tom Hargrave
www.kegkits.com
256-656-1924
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On
I think the mast is affordable.
If it goes up and down at all, a new mast would probably do it.
You just need a new mast, about $30 or so.
Unscrew the bezel at the base of the antenna with the mast down as far
as it will go, then switch radio on or set antenna switch to full up
and pull the tail out of the antenna housing as it comes free. Note
which way the teeth go!
Wipe a bit of
I've had a little experience with the Audi's and since my Passat which has 4
Motion is similar I would go for the Audi. The Allroad has a little better
ground clearance, but is no longer being built and the Avant has a little more
room. Just in my opinion Audi still has the best allwheel drive
Buy the mast replacement from Rusty - the ones he sells are direct
replacements. www.buymbparts.com
Your cost from Rusty is between $28 and $35 depending on brand and if you
need the toothed track or not. Replacement is very easy - the instructions
given by Peter are perfect.
Also, the
I should mention that we're just looking to purchase a used car $20k, so
the new CDI's are strictly verboten.
Here's a vid of my wife out test driving an A6 Avant ;)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aH6OcNmeuVcmode=relatedsearch=
On 1/1/07, Werner Fehlauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Casey -
Wish we could get away with that here in the States.
Thanks,
Tom Hargrave
www.kegkits.com
256-656-1924
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Zeitgeist
Sent: Monday, January 01, 2007 1:46 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT:
WOW! Thanks for all the response to my passing remark about putting a
different engine in my 240D! BTW, I saw that video a couple of weeks ago
with the VW Bus outrunning the Porsche 993 - if you've ever driven a VW Bus
you'll know what a change in personality that is! From slower than a
Howdy,
I'm considering getting the tool kit to do double flares and need to know if
there's a Metric Kit and a SAE Kit? I'm assuming there's both but haven't
seen more than the SAE - although I haven't looked hard.
I've found a place that does d flared tubing when provided with a metal
The console is original and I found two of the quartz at PnP that no
matter how I spun them would not line up with the holes for the post.
Off by degrees. I sat them next to the spare mechanicals, and there
were differences. Maybe I got the really odd quartz clocks out of non
115 cars
On
Casey - OK, you didn't mention a spending cap. So how about looking over
4Matic used M-Bs? The StarMark site (under MBUSA) might surprise you
After all, there's nothing as safe to have your Significant Other in than an
M-B!
(its a shame that we can't tap into the used ML 270 CDI market -
Standard board, but I sold the clocks on eBay to further my
accumulation of old Benz junk.
On Dec 31, 2006, at 7:12 PM, OK Don wrote:
Perhaps some photos of the board it should mount to, and the back of
the clock would help?
Seriously, it was a zero-brainer. Something must be fishy about
I'm betting even a used 4Matic will put you over the 20K limit. Besides they
don't have the ground clearance that the Audi has
Harry
69 280 SEL 135,000 Miles
72 350SL 118,000 Miles
2004 VW Passat 4 Motion
1999 Mazda Miata
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To:
The console is original and I found two of the quartz at PnP that no
matter how I spun them would not line up with the holes for the post.
Off by degrees. I sat them next to the spare mechanicals, and there
were differences. Maybe I got the really odd quartz clocks out of non
115 cars
Well
I'm considering getting the tool kit to do double flares and need to
know if
there's a Metric Kit and a SAE Kit? I'm assuming there's both but
haven't
seen more than the SAE - although I haven't looked hard.
So far as I know, there's only the SAE. Something about Bendix
(or somebody) having
or what is recommended to get it working properly?
New mast. No mas.
-- Jim
If she is able to do that, she needs Gump to keep her under control.
Get her a nice old diesel go no where fast car with chains.
On Jan 1, 2007, at 11:45 AM, Zeitgeist wrote:
I should mention that we're just looking to purchase a used car $20k,
so
the new CDI's are strictly verboten.
Pulls from whatever the PnP had that carried the sort of clock. There
have been some 116, a few slc, a bunch of 114/115. Not remembering
which offered what clock, since I tried and failed, so moved on.
Should I snag more quartz, I will look at the issue harder and figure
out what I am doing
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-300-Series-90-Mercedes-300D-Turbo-Diesel-like-new-LOW-RESERVE_W0QQitemZ200063997039QQihZ010QQcategoryZ6330QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
--
Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK
(2x) 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL,
87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D 2.2,
How hard is it to find a really nice 240D Larry? Are there still some
around that have very little if any rust? My old 911 is perfect but what
are the odds of finding such a diesel? Was the 240 made up to '85, or did
the 300TD replace it for North America? What should I expect to pay for a
I was looking under the 560SEL and notice what appears to be suspension oil
leaking from near front of engine. It appears to be coming from the
suspension pump, I was wondering if this was a common failure and if they
make a repair kit?
Thanks
Trampas
Well, just a quick look at the MBUSA pre-owned list, shows a Silver '99
ML320 for $14K in Lynnwood, WA, and a White '99 ML430 for $18K in Fife - not
that I would ever recommend a gas guzzler, but that shows for under 20K you
can get an all-wheel drive M-B! Also, the '99 MLs don't have all the
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