[MBZ] Dead battery

2012-12-07 Thread Max Dillon
Any recommendations for a maker of good batteries these days? Looks like the Auto Zone Gold battery in my wife's Infiniti has died, just over three years old, only about 22k miles. Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300 '87 300TD '73 Balboa 20 ___

Re: [MBZ] Injection Pump Timing by millivolt method

2012-12-07 Thread Max Dillon
Bust. Fuel consumption is slightly worse, probably about 5% or 10% worse, after about 1500 miles of driving. Going to set it back to factory spec using the locking tool, then maybe play around with only adjusting it a degree or two at a time and then driving for a few tanks to see if I can get

Re: [MBZ] Dead battery

2012-12-07 Thread Michael Canfield
From what I hear they are like everything else...made cheap with a big warranty with the company hoping for failures like yours; just out of the warranty period. I buy mine from Wally Mart. Supposed to be made by Johnson Control who is supposed to be good. I have had a few failures in my

Re: [MBZ] Injection Pump Timing by millivolt method

2012-12-07 Thread Michael Canfield
Sir, you need a dyno! Mike On Dec 7, 2012 9:15 AM, Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net wrote: Bust. Fuel consumption is slightly worse, probably about 5% or 10% worse, after about 1500 miles of driving. Going to set it back to factory spec using the locking tool, then maybe play around

Re: [MBZ] Wagon with third row seats

2012-12-07 Thread Donald Snook
Alex wrote and provided the following link: Not a Benz, but... http://portland.craigslist.org/clk/cto/3452336232.html Was the rear-facing third row a common feature back in the heyday of full-size American station wagons? I was a kid in the '70s but my parents had a VW microbus, so this is

Re: [MBZ] Wagon with third row seats

2012-12-07 Thread Michael Canfield
Me too. I have always wanted to build an Olds Vista Cruiser with a built 6.2 diesel. Mike On Dec 7, 2012 9:36 AM, Donald Snook dsn...@mtsqh.com wrote: Alex wrote and provided the following link: Not a Benz, but... http://portland.craigslist.org/clk/cto/3452336232.html Was the rear-facing

Re: [MBZ] Troubleshooting cr*ppy fuel economy in a W123 turbodiesel wagon

2012-12-07 Thread Andrew Strasfogel
If I did we would circle one another, sniffing all the while. On Thu, Dec 6, 2012 at 10:36 PM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: On Dec 6, 2012, at 13:09, Michael Canfield slozuk...@gmail.com wrote: I always get bad mpg anywhere near DC. Any of the *95 routes around there are a huge

Re: [MBZ] Dead battery

2012-12-07 Thread Tim C
On Fri, Dec 7, 2012 at 9:29 AM, Michael Canfield slozuk...@gmail.comwrote: From what I hear they are like everything else...made cheap with a big warranty with the company hoping for failures like yours; just out of the warranty period. I buy mine from Wally Mart. Supposed to be made by

[MBZ] Muscle Car hype was Re: Wagon with third row seats

2012-12-07 Thread Donald Snook
Randy wrote: Everyone waxes nostalgic about the wonder cars of the 60's but most of them were nothing but pigs. Well, there were a lot of really cool cars in the 60's - in terms of styling, the cool factor, and technological improvements of the time. But, in terms of reliability, modern cars

Re: [MBZ] Wagon with third row seats

2012-12-07 Thread Donald Snook
Rich wrote: My 500 Eldo gets about.. wait, I never checked, and never really cared. Premium too. Oh. Wow. You have an old Eldo? With the 502 engine? What year? Some of those are very cool cars even if they are land barges. Donald H. Snook http://www.mtsqh.com/

Re: [MBZ] Dead battery

2012-12-07 Thread Gerry Archer
I bought a battery from Advance Auto about 2 years ago. I opened the cells at home and found one cell with no visible electrolyte. The amount of distilled water it took to fill it up would make it seem that the acid had been added but not the water. Advance Auto would not give me a different

Re: [MBZ] Dead battery

2012-12-07 Thread Michael Canfield
I just bought the Wallymart version, same 3 years, came to $125 with tax and I kept my old battery. Worth more at the salvage yard. Mike On Dec 7, 2012 9:56 AM, Tim C bb...@crone.us wrote: On Fri, Dec 7, 2012 at 9:29 AM, Michael Canfield slozuk...@gmail.com wrote: From what I hear they are

Re: [MBZ] Wagon with third row seats

2012-12-07 Thread Donald Snook
Phillip wrote: It now gets 12 or less - but after almost 400,000 miles without overhaul, I'm not complaining much. A word jumped out at me when I read that. Overhaul. There's another thing you very rarely hear anymore. Overhaul. No one overhauls engines anymore. Of course, we used to have

Re: [MBZ] Troubleshooting cr*ppy fuel economy in a W123

2012-12-07 Thread Donald Snook
Luther wrote: #1 Only use full-throttle when merging onto the interstate. #2 Find traffic-less sections of the interstate, stop on the shoulder, do full-throttle acceleration up to speed limit (or beyond, if you dare :) ), repeat. This would reduce carbon buildup on the injectors, rings, and

Re: [MBZ] Injection Pump Timing by millivolt method

2012-12-07 Thread Mitch Haley
Max Dillon wrote: Bust. Fuel consumption is slightly worse, probably about 5% or 10% worse, after about 1500 miles of driving. Retarding the timing always does that, unless you were seriously overadvanced to begin with. Advancing gains MPG at the expense of increased peak cylinder

Re: [MBZ] Muscle Car hype

2012-12-07 Thread Jim Cathey
The thing I think is funny is how much horsepower has been gained in the last 2 decades. We think of these cars from the 70's as being hot rods, but nearly all of them have less horsepower than a Honda Accord does now. The 60's cars were hot, the 70's were not. Marketing was working

Re: [MBZ] Dead battery

2012-12-07 Thread Mitch Haley
Gerry Archer wrote: I bought a battery from Advance Auto about 2 years ago. I opened the cells at home and found one cell with no visible electrolyte. The amount of distilled water it took to fill it up would make it seem that the acid had been added but not the water. Advance Auto would

Re: [MBZ] Muscle Car hype was Re: Wagon with third row seats

2012-12-07 Thread Randy Bennell
I think I intended to say 70's rather than 60's. There were some good cars in the 60's. Much better than they were later. For example, a 68 Chevy Impala is still a nice car in my opinion, but I don't want a 73 or 74 version. And yes, I am amazed at what the little 4 cylinders do these days

Re: [MBZ] Muscle Car hype

2012-12-07 Thread Randy Bennell
So, I have to wonder if the reason we are moving ahead is that the current crop of engineers was growing up in the heyday of the muscle car? They want the power and we now have better tools to produce it. And, I would agree that most commuters don't need a whole lot of horsepower. My 76 115

Re: [MBZ] Wagon with third row seats

2012-12-07 Thread Fmiser
Donald wrote: I don't know what it is, but I like these big old wagons. I really like the Woody Wagons (the Ford Country Squire of the 70's and 80's), the Olds Custom Cruiser (the Big one, not that stupid Cierra wagon version), the Big Buick Roadmaster Wagon (of the 80's and

Re: [MBZ] Dead battery

2012-12-07 Thread dblidd
I have used new batteries from Costco and Interstate, and have found Interstate to be the better of the two. Typically I don't buy batteries, usually I go down to the marine shop I used to work at and grab a discharged battery off of the core rack that has a recent date code, charge it and test

Re: [MBZ] Wagon with third row seats

2012-12-07 Thread Fmiser
Donald Snook wrote: Phillip wrote: It now gets 12 or less - but after almost 400,000 miles without overhaul, I'm not complaining much. A word jumped out at me when I read that. Overhaul. There's another thing you very rarely hear anymore. Overhaul. No one overhauls engines anymore.

Re: [MBZ] Dead battery

2012-12-07 Thread Max Dillon
Mine was Advance as well, not Auto Zone. I charged it for a couple hours, car started just fine, so I let it idle for ten minutes or so, then shut it off, and an hour later it had a hard time starting. Advance gave me $52 credit from the warranty toward the purchase of a new, so now it's done.

Re: [MBZ] Injection Pump Timing by millivolt method

2012-12-07 Thread Max Dillon
There's a diesel performance shop in town that uses one, wonder what they charge? -Max -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Michael Canfield Sent: Friday, December 07, 2012 9:32 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Injection

Re: [MBZ] Wagon with third row seats

2012-12-07 Thread Max Dillon
There's a convertible Eldo for sale on the side of the road not too far from my house, red with a white top. Looks very sharp, original. Maybe the local urban boys will pimp it. -Max -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Donald Snook

[MBZ] OT email list for 6.2L GM

2012-12-07 Thread Fmiser
I found a couple web forums, but I really prefer email lists. And I'd sure like a list as good as this one - but for the GM 6.2 L diesel. Any of you know of one? --Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To

Re: [MBZ] Troubleshooting cr*ppy fuel economy in a W123 turbodiesel wagon

2012-12-07 Thread Dieselhead
LOL Good one! If I did we would circle one another, sniffing all the while. On Thu, Dec 6, 2012 at 10:36 PM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: On Dec 6, 2012, at 13:09, Michael Canfield slozuk...@gmail.com wrote: I always get bad mpg anywhere near DC. Any of the *95 routes

Re: [MBZ] Wagon with third row seats

2012-12-07 Thread Rich Thomas
That thing has been around awhile. --R On 12/7/12 1:06 PM, Max Dillon wrote: There's a convertible Eldo for sale on the side of the road not too far from my house, red with a white top. Looks very sharp, original. Maybe the local urban boys will pimp it. -Max -Original Message-

Re: [MBZ] Dead battery

2012-12-07 Thread Mitch Haley
Advance has a $25 rebate until 12-31-2012, and the usual $40 off coupons. http://www.fatwallet.com/forums/topic_view.php?catid=18threadid=1231931start=40 https://advanceautoparts.4myrebate.com/Claim/OfferDetailsNewGrid/?Offercd=AAP-10020 ___

Re: [MBZ] OM603+107?

2012-12-07 Thread OK Don
Ain't nothing young about me - I've got an excuse! On Thu, Dec 6, 2012 at 9:43 PM, Benz Hogs benz-n-h...@gulseth.net wrote: Now who is too young to be forgetting things? :-D Luther KB5QHUForest Park, IL '98 ML320 Max (159,xxx mi) On 12/6/2012 9:20 PM, Jim Cathey wrote: I wasn't

Re: [MBZ] Dead battery

2012-12-07 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
Well you should still have some warranty left on it, take it back there. On 12/7/2012 7:48 AM, Max Dillon wrote: Any recommendations for a maker of good batteries these days? Looks like the Auto Zone Gold battery in my wife's Infiniti has died, just over three years old, only about 22k

Re: [MBZ] OT email list for 6.2L GM

2012-12-07 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
Just know of forums, no email lists. You got a 6.2? On 12/7/2012 12:46 PM, Fmiser wrote: I found a couple web forums, but I really prefer email lists. And I'd sure like a list as good as this one - but for the GM 6.2 L diesel. Any of you know of one? --Philip

[MBZ] OT Home phone on the super cheap, $40 upfront , $0 monthly. 3enumeda

2012-12-07 Thread Rolf
I came across this article when looking for a cheap homephone solution that outlined using a device from obihai.com. $40 for the box, google voice (which is free) for the in and out bound calls. http://www.obihai.com/tutorial1.html Now, who know how long google will let voice be free or

Re: [MBZ] Dead battery

2012-12-07 Thread Rick Knoble
On Dec 7, 2012, at 1:50 PM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: Advance has a $25 rebate until 12-31-2012, and the usual $40 off coupons. http://www.fatwallet.com/forums/topic_view.php?catid=18threadid=1231931start=40

[MBZ] Nobody cares department

2012-12-07 Thread RELNGSON
http://www.carmagazine.co.uk/News/Search-Results/Industry-News/Aston-Martin-sells-38-stake-to-Italians-to-raise-cash/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To

Re: [MBZ] OT email list for 6.2L GM

2012-12-07 Thread Fmiser
Fmiser wrote: I found a couple web forums, but I really prefer email lists. And I'd sure like a list as good as this one - but for the GM 6.2 L diesel. Any of you know of one? Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: Just know of forums, no email lists. You got a 6.2? Yup. In a 3/4 ton

Re: [MBZ] OT email list for 6.2L GM

2012-12-07 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
I got a 6.5 turbo 2500 suburban a while back, don't need it but it was cheap could not pass it up. Sent from my iPhone On Dec 7, 2012, at 7:33 PM, Fmiser fmi...@gmail.com wrote: Fmiser wrote: I found a couple web forums, but I really prefer email lists. And I'd sure like a list as good

Re: [MBZ] modern power

2012-12-07 Thread RELNGSON
It was Snook'd: If you get the 3.5 V6, it has 271 HP.  (that surprises me!) And MB's 3.5 DI V-6 is now at 302hp. Plus a flex-fuel version for 2013 for the ML GL, not to say you can find E85 anyplace. The newish 3.5 Bluetec Diesel for the ML GL is at 265hp. Even the little 1.8 turbo

[MBZ] Somebody Needs This

2012-12-07 Thread Rick Knoble
Not mine, etc. 1970 Mercedes 280SE 108 Body 6 Cylinder Fuel Injected $2800 http://chicago.craigslist.org/sox/cto/3431631922.html Rick Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives

Re: [MBZ] Somebody Needs This

2012-12-07 Thread Dan Penoff
Meh. Nice, but not as nice as this crackhead ad: http://tampa.craigslist.org/pnl/cto/3410152111.html Dan On Dec 7, 2012, at 11:06 PM, Rick Knoble wrote: Not mine, etc. 1970 Mercedes 280SE 108 Body 6 Cylinder Fuel Injected $2800 http://chicago.craigslist.org/sox/cto/3431631922.html

Re: [MBZ] Muscle Car hype was Re: Wagon with third row seats

2012-12-07 Thread Rich Thomas
I would take a 66 GTO or SS396 any day. Who cares about ricers when you got a V8 that sounds like that, and can spin those Polyglas radials until they melt? I followed a cherry red 70 Nova SS into the Costco gas station yesterday, the plate said ND GAS --R On 12/7/12 10:02 AM, Donald

Re: [MBZ] Somebody Needs This

2012-12-07 Thread WILTON
What?! $15K?! Wilton - Original Message - From: Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, December 07, 2012 11:10 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Somebody Needs This Meh. Nice, but not as nice as this crackhead ad:

Re: [MBZ] Muscle Car hype was Re: Wagon with third row seats

2012-12-07 Thread WILTON
BTW, 'going to Mama Dips for lunch tomorrow. ;) Wilton - Original Message - From: Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, December 07, 2012 11:13 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Muscle Car hype was Re: Wagon with third

Re: [MBZ] GTO

2012-12-07 Thread RELNGSON
...I would take a 66 GTO or SS396 any day.  Who cares about ricers when you got a V8 that sounds like that, and can spin those Polyglas radials until they melt?.. Everything but brakes. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to

Re: [MBZ] Muscle Car hype was Re: Wagon with third row seats

2012-12-07 Thread Rich Thomas
Get some collards. I have been wanting me some collards the last few days, I made some turnip greens the other night but collards were what I wanted. There is a whole field full of them up the road, I was tempted this morning... --R On 12/7/12 11:17 PM, WILTON wrote: BTW, 'going to Mama

Re: [MBZ] Somebody Needs This

2012-12-07 Thread Rich Thomas
12. Endless list of trinkets (radio, switches...) --R On 12/7/12 11:10 PM, Dan Penoff wrote: Meh. Nice, but not as nice as this crackhead ad: http://tampa.craigslist.org/pnl/cto/3410152111.html Dan On Dec 7, 2012, at 11:06 PM, Rick Knoble wrote: Not mine, etc. 1970 Mercedes 280SE 108

Re: [MBZ] GTO

2012-12-07 Thread Rich Thomas
Brakes are irrelevant. And overrated. --R On 12/7/12 11:22 PM, relng...@aol.com wrote: ...I would take a 66 GTO or SS396 any day. Who cares about ricers when you got a V8 that sounds like that, and can spin those Polyglas radials until they melt?.. Everything but brakes. RLE

Re: [MBZ] OT email list for 6.2L GM

2012-12-07 Thread OK Don
Perhaps Kaleb neds to start another list??? On Fri, Dec 7, 2012 at 9:32 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.netwrote: I got a 6.5 turbo 2500 suburban a while back, don't need it but it was cheap could not pass it up. Sent from my iPhone On Dec 7, 2012, at 7:33 PM, Fmiser fmi...@gmail.com

Re: [MBZ] GTO

2012-12-07 Thread OK Don
The best defense is a good offense. On Fri, Dec 7, 2012 at 10:31 PM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: Brakes are irrelevant. And overrated. --R On 12/7/12 11:22 PM, relng...@aol.com wrote: ...I would take a 66 GTO or SS396 any day. Who cares about ricers when

Re: [MBZ] Muscle Car hype was Re: Wagon with third row seats

2012-12-07 Thread Dieselhead
67 Chevelle SS396 for me. My second car was one. It was a beautiful car. That and my first SDL are the best looking cars I ever had. I knew it would be worth money someday, but I couldn't afford it. A battleship gray 190Dc caught my attention, and the SS396 went away. I would take a 66

Re: [MBZ] GTO

2012-12-07 Thread Dieselhead
Exactly what a goat was designed to do. (and every potty-yak) The best defense is a good offense. On Fri, Dec 7, 2012 at 10:31 PM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: Brakes are irrelevant. And overrated. --R ___

Re: [MBZ] OT email list for 6.2L GM

2012-12-07 Thread Fmiser
OK Don wrote: Perhaps Kaleb neds to start another list??? Maybe. I'm learn'n. Short term plans are: * install slow, no-swell glow plugs and a manual glow controller * wire brake controller and trailer electric socket * repair the dual battery system * transplant 3rd row seat mounts *