Re: [MBZ] 2004 MB E 320 4matic visit to Dealership......$5, 308.80 to fix!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Didn't sound right to me either... Just a matter of hooking it up to the star tool resetting it, nothing to do with the state inspection... It would be worth it to get an oil change, if nothing else at the dealer, just to get it taken care of. On 4/20/2013 3:46 PM, Mitch Haley wrote: The car knows it's time for the state of New York's next inspection does not sound about right. -- Chris J. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: shot Down in Flames gun propaganda!
That's a lot of what if's. Hitler promised a better future to a people desperate for a better life. Sure many could see that he and the NAZIs where evil and there where people with weapons in Germany, not a lot due to the restrictions of the Versailles treaty but you can't tell me that if someone had wanted to shoot Hitler they could not get a hold of a weapon? No the problem was roughly a third of Germans supported Hitler, a third supported the communists and a third supported the Weimar republic, which due to the Versailles treaty was pretty much a basket case. The bigger problem was that the military stood by and did nothing, just as the signatories to the Versailles treaty did nothing when Hitler abolished the constitution. Now you say that a militia could have stopped Hitler. The same thing would more than likely happen in the US if it went really downhill and people where suffering, it's all nice and good to wrap yourself up in the flag and clutch a copy of the constitution but if you're family is starving to death and someone comes along and promises a better future, what are you going to do? Think that that person might be up to no good and shoot him/her? Hitler didn't talk about about abolishing the rights of the people or declaring total war on the world on his way to power. Hendrik who is not going to keep discussing this On 21/04/13 14:28, G Mann wrote: The point that civilians with hunting rifles are no match for the military power is a point that is truly off point. In the case of guys like hitler, stalin, po pot, ad nausium, the point is not civilians against the military after these despotic s took charge of the military and used them against the civilian populations... the valid point is civilians vs despots before they gain total control and military power... Case in point.. Hitler was a very unsuccessful civilian and successful in manipulation to gain power. There could be good argument made that had the citizenry simply paid attention and used the application of armed force at that early stage, millions of lives world wide would have not been lost. One armed citizen, with one bullet, at the right time and place, millions alive because of it. Not citizens with hunting rifles and kitchen knives against a well armed and supplied military.. In response to Greg, above Afgani comment. I lived in Afghanistan and the Northern Tribal Territories for 7 years. I have seen the gun makers in action, used the weapons they made, had them make some for my personal use. This was many years ago and even then, an AK-47 was well within their work scope. However, the Russians made so many, why bother making one when you could just shoot a Russian and take his along with his ammo and food. Case in point, poorly armed civilians with purpose against huge, well armed and supplied army... Who went home and who stayed? Your call. Grant... AZ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] BenzpR0n of the day - DISTRONIC PLUS® with Steering Assist
Came across an article describing the system working in conjunction with ESP on the previous A B Class models. I'd like to imagine that Steering Assist also comes into play on the new E with the standard ESP program possibly the optional lane tracking feature, they're just choosing to market it with Distronic. Hard to say though without any technical info. From the article: Steering assist is designed in a way that it supports a driver in these situations, but never dictates to the driver. The driver may override the systems’ intentions at any time. http://www.driveandstayalive.com/info%20section/news/individual%20news%20articles/y_050316_bosch_steering-assist.htm On 4/20/2013 3:41 PM, Mitch Haley wrote: Chris James wrote: No, no! Steering assist is only active when you have the Distronic cruise activated. But it's an assist onlyit doesn't take full control of the wheel, only making it easier to stay in your lane by slightly varying the power assist off the center direction of travel. It won't prevent you from trying to avoid that 2x4 or rain puddle. So if I move the wheel just far enough to miss the pothole, it won't guide me into the pothole? Mitch. -- Chris J. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: shot Down in Flames gun propaganda!
Hendrik and fay wrote: The pro gun mob always wheel out this sort of thing because it is easy to understand by the average gun owner, however the reality is that you can't fight a modern army with the stuff you buy at walmart. Hahaha. Look at what the Afghans did without any WalMarts. If, as happened about 250 years ago, 3% of the population takes to guerrilla warfare (about ten million people), just what do you propose the military (made up mostly of the sons and daughters of those ten million insurrectionists) do about it? Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Oil cooler lines
On Apr 21, 2013 7:23 AM, Tim Crone wrote: I think the oil cooler itself is the same. I was lucky enough to find an 85 SD in the pnp yesterday. Someone already pulled the oil cooler, but after two hours of contortions I was able to pull the lines (definitely the new version) without having a jack or Allen wrenches. In any case I'll know if they fit soon enough, and we'll go from there. Thanks! -Tim On Apr 20, 2013 3:17 PM, Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net wrote: If the hose is no longer available, maybe you need to replace oil cooler with new and then new hose for later models will fit? Have you checked the EPC? -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20 Tim Crone bb...@crone.us wrote: I took off the oil cooler lines for my 77 300D. It looks like some threads stripped, there are probably enough at the bottom to get the oil cooler back together. There is a fix listed on peachparts that involves tapping threads for new connectors, has anyone done that? Also, the lower hose (old style) is NLA. It has a nubby end, the recommended local hydraulic guy says he can't do it because of how short the end is. BabyQ is of course out today, his site shows it NLA also. So... Is there some kind of retrofit? Any ideas? I'd hate to kill the car over something so trivial. Thanks, Tim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 2004 MB E 320 4matic visit to Dealership Service Clinic......found bad Front Axles / Springs...........$5, 308.80 to fix!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
For once I have to disagree with Loren. :) My 94 Mazda used to eat axles, I had no better experience with OE versus bottom of the barrel. (I understand I'm comparing Mazda OE to Mercedes OE, but yours broke in 77k.) There was an axle shop that did boots only if there was no noise, can't say I ever was able to try that but it was a bit cheaper. That would let you keep OE too. Mazda axles were in the $200-$500 range installed in 97-200x (two hours book, the axle specialist only charged one). I'm sure there's more to do on yours but 4500 is a little faster than inflation... Best, Tim On Apr 20, 2013 1:46 PM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: Not sure about a car this new, but in general, (For the cars from 86 through ~2000) the OE axles are what you want. If you can't see cracks in the boots, I would not worry about them. It is normal to have some weeping of the grease through the boot ends. If the boots are cracked or near cracking, new boots can be put on. I would run the original axles until they are noisy or broken. As for the spring, it is not a terribly difficult DIY repair. Replace both rear springs at the same time. Used Springs should be available via car-part.com ~100/pair or less. New through Q jr. may not be much more than that. Hi Guys, I Took my 2004 E320 4matic (77K) to a local dealership that was having a Service Clinic for MBCA members in Westchester, New York. They found two issues: - Left Rear Spring was cracked the mechanic said he could see the car was leaning left and the crack was in the lower section which was not visible to me on the lift. - Front outer axle boots were leaking and the axles needed replacing. The estimate for the repairs were $4508.80 to replace the front axles and $800 for the rear springs! The axle boots appeared to have grease around the area but I saw no obvious cracks. I got online and found replacement axles for around $250 each in addition to genuine Mercedes Replacement boots for $85 per pair. Anyone have experience replacing the axles or just the boots. Should only genuine Mercedes Axles be used? How bad a job is it? I am still having no luck finding a repair manual. Any thoughts on the spring replacement? Lastly I asked him about a malfunction message I receive when I set the instrument panel to the correct year, month and day. The malfunction keeps reading Main Inspection Performed on Time?. When I set the year back to 2000 the message disappears (I don't know why that works). At first they never heard of the issue so I set it to the correct day, year and month and the malfunction message appeared. Then another technician said to fix it involves programming which takes over an hour because this message is a reminder that a New York Inspection is due, the dealerships have capability not independent shops. Anyone have a similar issue? Does any of this make and sense? Any comments appreciated. Thanks in advance. Bob __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 2004 MB E 320 4matic visit to Dealership Service Clinic......found bad Front Axles / Springs...........$5, 308.80 to fix!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Tim Crone wrote: For once I have to disagree with Loren. :) My 94 Mazda used to eat axles, I had no better experience with OE versus bottom of the barrel. (I understand I'm comparing Mazda OE to Mercedes OE, but yours broke in 77k.) There was an axle shop that did boots only if there was no noise, can't say I ever was able to try that but it was a bit cheaper. That would let you keep OE too. If it used to 'eat' axles, then OE were bottom of the barrel. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 2004 MB E 320 4matic visit to Dealership Service Clinic......found bad Front Axles / Springs...........$5, 308.80 to fix!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
For once I have to disagree with Loren. :) My 94 Mazda used to eat axles, I had no better experience with OE versus bottom of the barrel. (I understand I'm comparing Mazda OE to Mercedes OE, but yours broke in 77k.) There was an axle shop that did boots only if there was no noise, can't say I ever was able to try that but it was a bit cheaper. That would let you keep OE too. Mazda axles were in the $200-$500 range installed in 97-200x (two hours book, the axle specialist only charged one). I'm sure there's more to do on yours but 4500 is a little faster than inflation... Best, Tim I was talking specifically about MB axles. The general experience was that a used OE axle was better than a new axle. Again , that was with respect to 68 - ~1990 year MB cars. I know nothing about 2000+ MB axles, nor 4WD front axles on MB. In recent years, I believe Mr.Q had some reasonably priced thrid party MB axles that gave good service. The original post however was not that the axle was broken or noisy, but that a stealership told him to replace the axles (with boots intact) due to some grease seepage. The real point here is that I see no reason to replace the axles. My argument is that IF you were need to replace axles, used OE may still be preferable to new third party. Here's what I'd do: 1. Nothing but keep an eye on the axle boots. No cracks through or greasy wet spots: OK Seeping/wicking is ok 2. If there is a boot failure: replace boots 3. If an axle gets noisy: replace My guess is that these axles will last another 100k to 200k miles and many years I have no experience with mazzy axles, and no reference was made to them. If I needed 4WD, I'd be buying Deetriot pickup. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Many Thanks!!!!!!!....... 2004 MB E 320 4matic visit to Dealership Service Clinic.
Hi all, I just wanted to take a minute to thank the list for the help on this topic and other issues I had over the past few months! This is an invaluable resource that has gotten me out of binds and saved me money! Enough of the that..gear up for my next question! Sincerely, Bob K -Original Message- From: Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sun, Apr 21, 2013 11:38 am Subject: Re: [MBZ] 2004 MB E 320 4matic visit to Dealership Service Clinic..found bad Front Axles / Springs...$5, 308.80 to fix!!! For once I have to disagree with Loren. :) My 94 Mazda used to eat axles, I had no better experience with OE versus bottom of the barrel. (I understand I'm comparing Mazda OE to Mercedes OE, but yours broke in 77k.) There was an axle shop that did boots only if there was no noise, can't say I ever was able to try that but it was a bit cheaper. That would let you keep OE too. Mazda axles were in the $200-$500 range installed in 97-200x (two hours book, the axle specialist only charged one). I'm sure there's more to do on yours but 4500 is a little faster than inflation... Best, Tim I was talking specifically about MB axles. The general experience was that a used OE axle was better than a new axle. Again , that was with respect to 68 - ~1990 year MB cars. I know nothing about 2000+ MB axles, nor 4WD front axles on MB. In recent years, I believe Mr.Q had some reasonably priced thrid party MB axles that gave good service. The original post however was not that the axle was broken or noisy, but that a stealership told him to replace the axles (with boots intact) due to some grease seepage. The real point here is that I see no reason to replace the axles. My argument is that IF you were need to replace axles, used OE may still be preferable to new third party. Here's what I'd do: 1. Nothing but keep an eye on the axle boots. No cracks through or greasy wet spots: OK Seeping/wicking is ok 2. If there is a boot failure: replace boots 3. If an axle gets noisy: replace My guess is that these axles will last another 100k to 200k miles and many years I have no experience with mazzy axles, and no reference was made to them. If I needed 4WD, I'd be buying Deetriot pickup. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: shot Down in Flames gun propaganda!
I remind you that the NDAA act, passed by congress last year, signed by Prez, allowed the use of military against civilians, as written.. so they did it . Since then, that provision has, I believe been set aside, however, the rulers are thinking it is OK to attack civilians and get by with it. I sleep better at night knowing I'm unarmed and helpless, don't you? On Sat, Apr 20, 2013 at 10:15 PM, Scott Ritchey ritche...@nc.rr.com wrote: Actually, it's not the Constitution but the Passe Comitatus Act that limits use of federal military forces for law enforcement. Ref: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posse_Comitatus_Act -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Dieselhead Sent: Saturday, April 20, 2013 11:33 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: shot Down in Flames gun propaganda! It would probably be best if the 2nd amendment was expanded to include any weapon the U.S. military has or could use. But then again, the law is supposed to be U.S. troops cannot be deployed on U.S. land. Ah! BUT the Constitution does not say the Homely land insecurity can't be deployed against the citizens. Nor does the Constitution say the Ialien Natural ization service can't be deployed against the citizens. Nor does the Constitution say the ATF can't be deployed against the citizens. Does this give any clues about the real intent of our homegrown National Socia lists? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: shot Down in Flames gun propaganda!
Hitler lied, Millions diedimagine that. See anything similar? On Sat, Apr 20, 2013 at 11:51 PM, Hendrik and fay heni...@gmail.com wrote: That's a lot of what if's. Hitler promised a better future to a people desperate for a better life. Sure many could see that he and the NAZIs where evil and there where people with weapons in Germany, not a lot due to the restrictions of the Versailles treaty but you can't tell me that if someone had wanted to shoot Hitler they could not get a hold of a weapon? No the problem was roughly a third of Germans supported Hitler, a third supported the communists and a third supported the Weimar republic, which due to the Versailles treaty was pretty much a basket case. The bigger problem was that the military stood by and did nothing, just as the signatories to the Versailles treaty did nothing when Hitler abolished the constitution. Now you say that a militia could have stopped Hitler. The same thing would more than likely happen in the US if it went really downhill and people where suffering, it's all nice and good to wrap yourself up in the flag and clutch a copy of the constitution but if you're family is starving to death and someone comes along and promises a better future, what are you going to do? Think that that person might be up to no good and shoot him/her? Hitler didn't talk about about abolishing the rights of the people or declaring total war on the world on his way to power. Hendrik who is not going to keep discussing this On 21/04/13 14:28, G Mann wrote: The point that civilians with hunting rifles are no match for the military power is a point that is truly off point. In the case of guys like hitler, stalin, po pot, ad nausium, the point is not civilians against the military after these despotic s took charge of the military and used them against the civilian populations... the valid point is civilians vs despots before they gain total control and military power... Case in point.. Hitler was a very unsuccessful civilian and successful in manipulation to gain power. There could be good argument made that had the citizenry simply paid attention and used the application of armed force at that early stage, millions of lives world wide would have not been lost. One armed citizen, with one bullet, at the right time and place, millions alive because of it. Not citizens with hunting rifles and kitchen knives against a well armed and supplied military.. In response to Greg, above Afgani comment. I lived in Afghanistan and the Northern Tribal Territories for 7 years. I have seen the gun makers in action, used the weapons they made, had them make some for my personal use. This was many years ago and even then, an AK-47 was well within their work scope. However, the Russians made so many, why bother making one when you could just shoot a Russian and take his along with his ammo and food. Case in point, poorly armed civilians with purpose against huge, well armed and supplied army... Who went home and who stayed? Your call. Grant... AZ __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: shot Down in Flames gun propaganda!
The last 51 months have been a steady chipping away at centuries old rights. Many are just tests to see what they can get by with. The liar in chief has yet to explain why he needs to use for ces against civi lians. Of course, even if he did, it would be lies. THE MANN sez: I remind you that the NDAA act, passed by congress last year, signed by Prez, allowed the use of military against civilians, as written.. so they did it . Since then, that provision has, I believe been set aside, however, the rulers are thinking it is OK to attack civilians and get by with it. I sleep better at night knowing I'm unarmed and helpless, don't you? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] CL morons
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Re: [MBZ] CL morons
I think I know them ol boys! --R On 4/21/13 4:46 PM, clay wrote: http://seattle.craigslist.org/sno/cto/3757715372.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] CL morons
They don't have a franchise in the Chuckietown area, do they? ;) Wilton - Original Message - From: Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, April 21, 2013 4:53 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] CL morons I think I know them ol boys! --R On 4/21/13 4:46 PM, clay wrote: http://seattle.craigslist.org/sno/cto/3757715372.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Down in Flames!
Oh, tell me it ain't so!!! How could dedicated civil servants possibly violate the very law they have sworn to uphold?? I'm mortified. Oh wait, I forgot the example being set at the top. Seriously, for anyone who thinks we need more Federal gun laws, I suggest you take a hard look at 18 USC section 922 (http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/922). What could possibly be outlawed that's not already illegal? And these violations carry heavy fines and serious jail-time. If the Feds and locals (especially certain mayors) simply enforced existing laws, gun violence would drop suddenly (maybe that's not the desired outcome). As a case in point, our county Sheriff and the Henderson NC police have gotten dozens of habitual criminals off the street (for like 5-15 years) by referring cases to the US Attorney for Federal gun violations. This is a big deal because the state courts had become little more than a revolving door. Scott -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Mitch Haley Sent: Friday, April 19, 2013 10:40 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Down in Flames! Scott Ritchey wrote: Not so. The only records are kept locally by the individual gun dealer. 1. When he goes out of business, he has to turn the 4473s and bound book over to ATF. 2. ATF has been known to scan all the 4473s and/or bound book when doing a 'random compliance check'. 3. For several years, ATF has been strongly encouraging FFL holders to keep an electronic bound book so instead of looking at the book they can just copy his database to a thumb drive. By law, the NICBC data must be destroyed shortly after the check. You don't think they actually do that, do you? Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Fw: 1991 Mercedes 350SDL - $1000 (Jamaica Plain)
Not mine, etc. Fred Moir Lynn MA Diesel preferred. - Forwarded Message - From: fred.s...@yahoo.com fred.s...@yahoo.com To: fredy4.s...@yahoo.com Sent: Sunday, April 21, 2013 6:18 PM Subject: 1991 Mercedes 350SDL - $1000 (Jamaica Plain) fred.s...@yahoo.com has forwarded you this craigslist.org posting. Please see below for more information. Visit the posting at http://boston.craigslist.org/gbs/cto/3751564702.html to contact the person who posted this. 1991 Mercedes 350SDL Date: 2013-04-18, 2:25PM This Mercedes is in immaculate condition inside and out, but the engine needs serious work. All of the bells and whistles work on this car otherwise and it is a beauty to look at and drive (when the engine was fully functional). This car is power everything, has the expensive and awesome stock Mercedes tow hitch, has flawless leather and dash, etc. This is a project car for someone who either wants the parts, has an engine to install into it or knows how to get someone to install an engine in it. I have spent a lot of time and money on this car and am selling it for $1000 or best offer. I really need someone to take this vehicle off my hands. Serious inquiries only. 617-645-8910 * Location: Jamaica Plain * it's NOT ok to contact this poster with services or other commercial interests Original URL: http://boston.craigslist.org/gbs/cto/3751564702.html this craigslist posting was forwarded to you by someone using our email-a-friend feature - if you want to prevent these, please go to: http://www.craigslist.org/cgi-bin/te/U2FsdGVkX185MzkxOTM5MdeVkcAG_IsT46AaHIT2jnuunvudSLbAjlQyJgOOnN_by9KA6U2cSRLt5hFeVFlt-A ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Fw: 1991 Mercedes 350SDL - $1000 (Jamaica Plain)
A pity. Yep, a mighty fine car running, but I learned in about 1942 behind a '37 Ford that there's nothing more worthLESS than a car that ya hafta push; still keeping fingers crossed on my '91 350SDL at 205 kmi. Wilton - Original Message - From: Frederick Moir fredy4.s...@yahoo.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, April 21, 2013 6:35 PM Subject: [MBZ] Fw: 1991 Mercedes 350SDL - $1000 (Jamaica Plain) Not mine, etc. Fred Moir Lynn MA Diesel preferred. - Forwarded Message - From: fred.s...@yahoo.com fred.s...@yahoo.com To: fredy4.s...@yahoo.com Sent: Sunday, April 21, 2013 6:18 PM Subject: 1991 Mercedes 350SDL - $1000 (Jamaica Plain) fred.s...@yahoo.com has forwarded you this craigslist.org posting. Please see below for more information. Visit the posting at http://boston.craigslist.org/gbs/cto/3751564702.html to contact the person who posted this. 1991 Mercedes 350SDL Date: 2013-04-18, 2:25PM This Mercedes is in immaculate condition inside and out, but the engine needs serious work. All of the bells and whistles work on this car otherwise and it is a beauty to look at and drive (when the engine was fully functional). This car is power everything, has the expensive and awesome stock Mercedes tow hitch, has flawless leather and dash, etc. This is a project car for someone who either wants the parts, has an engine to install into it or knows how to get someone to install an engine in it. I have spent a lot of time and money on this car and am selling it for $1000 or best offer. I really need someone to take this vehicle off my hands. Serious inquiries only. 617-645-8910 * Location: Jamaica Plain * it's NOT ok to contact this poster with services or other commercial interests Original URL: http://boston.craigslist.org/gbs/cto/3751564702.html this craigslist posting was forwarded to you by someone using our email-a-friend feature - if you want to prevent these, please go to: http://www.craigslist.org/cgi-bin/te/U2FsdGVkX185MzkxOTM5MdeVkcAG_IsT46AaHIT2jnuunvudSLbAjlQyJgOOnN_by9KA6U2cSRLt5hFeVFlt-A ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Fw: 1991 Mercedes 350SDL - $1000 (Jamaica Plain)
still keeping fingers crossed on my '91 350SDL at 205 kmi. Wilton An SDL at 200k miles is just over a pup. IMHO, an OM603 is a pup until it crosses 200K. BTW, I have a parts car with a good engine for this car if anyone is interested. (1987 SDL) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Fw: 1991 Mercedes 350SDL - $1000 (Jamaica Plain)
On Apr 21, 2013 3:35 PM, Frederick Moir fredy4.s...@yahoo.com wrote: 1991 Mercedes 350SDL This Mercedes is in immaculate condition inside and out, but the engine needs serious work. Finally an honest seller! I've seen an awful lot of rodbenders described as runs great, just smokes a little. Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] It starts in Park
Knuckle head move of the weekend. I have been having issues with the tachometer in Frosch since I got her. The needle would behave seldomly, sort of wiggling around the general area of possible engine RPM. Or it would decide that it wanted nothing to do with the engine and would just lie there like a dead twig. Then either continue to resist or wildly swing to and fro in an approximation of a seismometer. Or just peg out and let me figure out what the heck that means. The clock was much better earlier on. It would try to approximate the time. Somewhere in the world. Most of the time. Quartz movement, so no winding up or getting cold, it just could not keep proper time. When spring sprang and times changed, I tried to adjust it, but might have turned it a small bit anti-clockwise and now it will not tell time at all. Screw it. I got a used tach from a fleabay seller who operates a watch repair, or horological shop in SC. I suspect the tach lived there because its former owner wanted a working clock. The shop was unable to repair the clock (probably because the cost to do that was higher than just calling the classic center for a new tach) and I got it cheap. The clock repair is probably quite simple and involves the handiwork of a small oriental child to place a part. Same damage as my clock. I pulled the cluster yesterday and futzed around with the old tach, removed it, inspected and poke the new to me one about to see if I could see a difference. New one seemed more restrained, so I installed it and popped the cluster back in the dash. After hooking everything back up. Even the oil line. I had once forgotten that step, much to my chagrin a few months ago. Before putting the steering wheel back on, figured I should fire it up to check function. Put the key in and turn it. Lights all come on, stereo powers up, antenna goes up, no starter. Well, that is a head scratcher? Maybe I did not hook it up properly? Pretty hard to imagine, as I had been able to light it off with the cluster unhooked at the oil line before. Might it be an issue with the ignition switch? Bad wire that I had knocked off while removing or reinserting the cluster? Yank the cluster and poke around. Shine lights on it. Shine some light in the back toward the firewall. Poke vacuum lines and wires. Looked at the rear of the cluster for any indication of stupidity. I was not able to find any fault with the area mechanically, so button it back up. The speedo cable is a pain to put back on. Cross thread, or the sides are both magnetic north. No idea. Try to light it off again. Same response with lights and motion accompanied with noise from the radio, but no turn over or starter spin. Maybe it wants the steering wheel back on? Odd that it would, as the oil line was happy to piddle on me and the wheel was not on then. No accounting for why the car decided to not start, other than the tach was new and the clock busted, so it has hexed the engine. So I put the steering wheel back on, bolt it and try once more. Nope, nothing. Throw up my hands and sink back into the seat, thinking I should Lexol the leather, but Whiskey Tango is the deal with the dang starter?!!?!! As I am rubbing my addled pate, I look about the cabin for inspiration or a tool to smack the thing with and my eyes land on the center console. Wonder why the ash tray is out and akimbo? Might the evil scavengers have gotten into my car in a misplaced attempt to find spare change? Very odd. What is the shift lever doing there? That is not where it usually is when I get into the car. Hmm. Deep mystery. Put it back into park, turn the key, and there we go. I need more than coffee if I am going to be working on this thing. clay 1974 450sl - Frosch - Two tone green 1972 220D - Gump - She is green, simple and ran 1995 E300D - Cleo - Used by the Queen of Denial POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Fw: 1991 Mercedes 350SDL - $1000 (Jamaica Plain)
He's probably honest about the engine, but the problem with a non-running car is that it's impossible to test and evaluate a long list of things like the transmission, HVAC, suspension, electrical system, brakes, ABS, etc. That's why the car is with little more than scrap. Best option for the owner would be a turbo OM606 including the factory intercooler, but use the injection pump from this car. Step up in power, reliability, refinement, lower fuel consumption, cleaner burning. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20 Alex Chamberlain apchamberl...@gmail.com wrote: On Apr 21, 2013 3:35 PM, Frederick Moir fredy4.s...@yahoo.com wrote: 1991 Mercedes 350SDL This Mercedes is in immaculate condition inside and out, but the engine needs serious work. Finally an honest seller! I've seen an awful lot of rodbenders described as runs great, just smokes a little. Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] CL morons
I flagged this. For best of. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20 clay redgh...@comcast.net wrote: http://seattle.craigslist.org/sno/cto/3757715372.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] It starts in Park
If it's any consolation, btdt. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20 clay redgh...@comcast.net wrote: Knuckle head move of the weekend. I have been having issues with the tachometer in Frosch since I got her. The needle would behave seldomly, sort of wiggling around the general area of possible engine RPM. Or it would decide that it wanted nothing to do with the engine and would just lie there like a dead twig. Then either continue to resist or wildly swing to and fro in an approximation of a seismometer. Or just peg out and let me figure out what the heck that means. The clock was much better earlier on. It would try to approximate the time. Somewhere in the world. Most of the time. Quartz movement, so no winding up or getting cold, it just could not keep proper time. When spring sprang and times changed, I tried to adjust it, but might have turned it a small bit anti-clockwise and now it will not tell time at all. Screw it. I got a used tach from a fleabay seller who operates a watch repair, or horological shop in SC. I suspect the tach lived there because its former owner wanted a working clock. The shop was unable to repair the clock (probably because the cost to do that was higher than just calling the classic center for a new tach) and I got it cheap. The clock repair is probably quite simple and involves the handiwork of a small oriental child to place a part. Same damage as my clock. I pulled the cluster yesterday and futzed around with the old tach, removed it, inspected and poke the new to me one about to see if I could see a difference. New one seemed more restrained, so I installed it and popped the cluster back in the dash. After hooking everything back up. Even the oil line. I had once forgotten that step, much to my chagrin a few months ago. Before putting the steering wheel back on, figured I should fire it up to check function. Put the key in and turn it. Lights all come on, stereo powers up, antenna goes up, no starter. Well, that is a head scratcher? Maybe I did not hook it up properly? Pretty hard to imagine, as I had been able to light it off with the cluster unhooked at the oil line before. Might it be an issue with the ignition switch? Bad wire that I had knocked off while removing or reinserting the cluster? Yank the cluster and poke around. Shine lights on it. Shine some light in the back toward the firewall. Poke vacuum lines and wires. Looked at the rear of the cluster for any indication of stupidity. I was not able to find any fault with the area mechanically, so button it back up. The speedo cable is a pain to put back on. Cross thread, or the sides are both magnetic north. No idea. Try to light it off again. Same response with lights and motion accompanied with noise from the radio, but no turn over or starter spin. Maybe it wants the steering wheel back on? Odd that it would, as the oil line was happy to piddle on me and the wheel was not on then. No accounting for why the car decided to not start, other than the tach was new and the clock busted, so it has hexed the engine. So I put the steering wheel back on, bolt it and try once more. Nope, nothing. Throw up my hands and sink back into the seat, thinking I should Lexol the leather, but Whiskey Tango is the deal with the dang starter?!!?!! As I am rubbing my addled pate, I look about the cabin for inspiration or a tool to smack the thing with and my eyes land on the center console. Wonder why the ash tray is out and akimbo? Might the evil scavengers have gotten into my car in a misplaced attempt to find spare change? Very odd. What is the shift lever doing there? That is not where it usually is when I get into the car. Hmm. Deep mystery. Put it back into park, turn the key, and there we go. I need more than coffee if I am going to be working on this thing. clay 1974 450sl - Frosch - Two tone green 1972 220D - Gump - She is green, simple and ran 1995 E300D - Cleo - Used by the Queen of Denial POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Fw: 1991 Mercedes 350SDL - $1000 (Jamaica Plain)
'My thoughts, too, 'til I learned about the rodbender 350SD's. Wilton - Original Message - From: Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, April 21, 2013 6:56 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Fw: 1991 Mercedes 350SDL - $1000 (Jamaica Plain) still keeping fingers crossed on my '91 350SDL at 205 kmi. Wilton An SDL at 200k miles is just over a pup. IMHO, an OM603 is a pup until it crosses 200K. BTW, I have a parts car with a good engine for this car if anyone is interested. (1987 SDL) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Fw: 1991 Mercedes 350SDL - $1000 (Jamaica Plain)
A real live Rod Bender? On Sun, Apr 21, 2013 at 6:35 PM, Frederick Moir fredy4.s...@yahoo.comwrote: Not mine, etc. Fred Moir Lynn MA Diesel preferred. - Forwarded Message - From: fred.s...@yahoo.com fred.s...@yahoo.com To: fredy4.s...@yahoo.com Sent: Sunday, April 21, 2013 6:18 PM Subject: 1991 Mercedes 350SDL - $1000 (Jamaica Plain) fred.s...@yahoo.com has forwarded you this craigslist.org posting. Please see below for more information. Visit the posting at http://boston.craigslist.org/gbs/cto/3751564702.htmlto contact the person who posted this. 1991 Mercedes 350SDL Date: 2013-04-18, 2:25PM This Mercedes is in immaculate condition inside and out, but the engine needs serious work. All of the bells and whistles work on this car otherwise and it is a beauty to look at and drive (when the engine was fully functional). This car is power everything, has the expensive and awesome stock Mercedes tow hitch, has flawless leather and dash, etc. This is a project car for someone who either wants the parts, has an engine to install into it or knows how to get someone to install an engine in it. I have spent a lot of time and money on this car and am selling it for $1000 or best offer. I really need someone to take this vehicle off my hands. Serious inquiries only. 617-645-8910 * Location: Jamaica Plain * it's NOT ok to contact this poster with services or other commercial interests Original URL: http://boston.craigslist.org/gbs/cto/3751564702.html this craigslist posting was forwarded to you by someone using our email-a-friend feature - if you want to prevent these, please go to: http://www.craigslist.org/cgi-bin/te/U2FsdGVkX185MzkxOTM5MdeVkcAG_IsT46AaHIT2jnuunvudSLbAjlQyJgOOnN_by9KA6U2cSRLt5hFeVFlt-A ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Fw: 1991 Mercedes 350SDL - $1000 (Jamaica Plain)
No, it's dead. Wilton - Original Message - From: Dwight Giles dwight.gi...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, April 21, 2013 8:21 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Fw: 1991 Mercedes 350SDL - $1000 (Jamaica Plain) A real live Rod Bender? On Sun, Apr 21, 2013 at 6:35 PM, Frederick Moir fredy4.s...@yahoo.comwrote: Not mine, etc. Fred Moir Lynn MA Diesel preferred. - Forwarded Message - From: fred.s...@yahoo.com fred.s...@yahoo.com To: fredy4.s...@yahoo.com Sent: Sunday, April 21, 2013 6:18 PM Subject: 1991 Mercedes 350SDL - $1000 (Jamaica Plain) fred.s...@yahoo.com has forwarded you this craigslist.org posting. Please see below for more information. Visit the posting at http://boston.craigslist.org/gbs/cto/3751564702.htmlto contact the person who posted this. 1991 Mercedes 350SDL Date: 2013-04-18, 2:25PM This Mercedes is in immaculate condition inside and out, but the engine needs serious work. All of the bells and whistles work on this car otherwise and it is a beauty to look at and drive (when the engine was fully functional). This car is power everything, has the expensive and awesome stock Mercedes tow hitch, has flawless leather and dash, etc. This is a project car for someone who either wants the parts, has an engine to install into it or knows how to get someone to install an engine in it. I have spent a lot of time and money on this car and am selling it for $1000 or best offer. I really need someone to take this vehicle off my hands. Serious inquiries only. 617-645-8910 * Location: Jamaica Plain * it's NOT ok to contact this poster with services or other commercial interests Original URL: http://boston.craigslist.org/gbs/cto/3751564702.html this craigslist posting was forwarded to you by someone using our email-a-friend feature - if you want to prevent these, please go to: http://www.craigslist.org/cgi-bin/te/U2FsdGVkX185MzkxOTM5MdeVkcAG_IsT46AaHIT2jnuunvudSLbAjlQyJgOOnN_by9KA6U2cSRLt5hFeVFlt-A ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Solar Tree for charging EVs
Out here where power is cheap and made out of air and water, we have to allow the gummi'nt to turn off the flow of electrons because we make too much zappy stuff. BPA, which squishes fishes to make power has demanded the propeller folks stop putting energy on the grid, so the agency can sell its overpriced electrons. Wind is too plentiful in making power and we have shut down the consumers, like smelters, so there is a bit of trouble in that now BPA rate payers will be paying the wind farms to be shut down. Why we do not set up some massive grow operations by the propellor farms eludes me. Micro$oft has a ginormous server farm out in the boondocks to suck up electrons, and BMW has a carbon fiber plant out there too. Maybe the magic electric cars should be on the wind grid and have filling pods with large deep cycle battery storage so they can suckle off the grid at a time closer to when wind makes power. clay On Apr 20, 2013, at 1:53 PM, Brian Toscano wrote: The proliferation of computers and mobile devices increases power consumption. People heating 6000-7000+ sq ft homes aren't exact environmentally friendly. On Fri, Apr 19, 2013 at 10:37 AM, Benz Hogs benz-n-h...@gulseth.net wrote: Yup. Until that lifestyle is changed, efficiency (or the lack thereof) of energy usage cannot be truly fixed. Luther KB5QHUForest Park, IL '98 ML320 Max (164,xxx mi) On 4/18/2013 9:30 PM, OK Don wrote: Ah ha! Now you've identified the problem - highest traffic areas and drive to a major downtown! OKDon, who doesn't live in ANY town anymore! __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] odo sticking
Could be imminent failure or you did not get it set back fully when you poked the button and it is stuck midway. Do not reset the trip odo while in motion. Punch the button a few times when fully stopped and it should behave again. clay On Apr 20, 2013, at 6:12 PM, ernest breakfield wrote: hi all! i noticed last week that the odometer and trip meter seemed to 'stick' for a few miles, while the speedo seemed to behave normally. is this the typical symptom of the gears slipping on their shaft, or something else? any tips on how to narrow it down to what needs attention, or any instructions on how i might approach addressing this myself? cheers! e '85 300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Fw: 1991 Mercedes 350SDL - $1000 (Jamaica Plain)
Dieselhead wrote: still keeping fingers crossed on my '91 350SDL at 205 kmi. Wilton An SDL at 200k miles is just over a pup. IMHO, an OM603 is a pup until it crosses 200K. Unless, of course, it's a 3.5L with a leaky head gasket and hydrolocked #1 piston. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: shot Down in Flames gun propaganda!
As Wilton is very aware, you can drop tons and tons of ordinance on palm trees and dense jungles all day, all week and all year long with minimal effect on the will of the opposition to keep on shooting the boys on the ground. We flew bombers over German cities and turned them into firestorms fierce enough to turn stone to dust, as well as bounce the rubble of houses and factories all night long, but the war still ground on. The air power was helpful, but the boys on the ground still had to dodge bullets and mop up that mess before it was over. Japan was made to glow in the early morning light of two August days before they were willing to consider calling it quits. Air power devastated the Islands and cities thereon. We did not get a chance to lose our boys on the ground in Japan, but a great many did perish in the Pacific war. Syria is using its air power, but most of the real fighting is on the ground. Iran and Iraq flew and bombed, but again, the boys on the ground did most of the work. George HW Bush took 100 days to liberate Kuwait, and that took boots on the ground, after the flyboys had expended their loads. Even the Soviets in Afghanistan were bedeviled by ground fire while tooling about in gunships. We are not doing any better there than the Ruskies, and over in Saddamistan, we declared victory in a few short weeks due to air support, but took another eight years on the ground before we gave up. To the guys on the street corners with guns. clay On Apr 20, 2013, at 8:06 PM, Hendrik and fay wrote: So the basis of that dribble is that if the citizens of Germany, Russia, Japan, etc had been armed that there would not have been as many deaths or the dictatorships would not have happened? I don't think so. The pro gun mob always wheel out this sort of thing because it is easy to understand by the average gun owner, however the reality is that you can't fight a modern army with the stuff you buy at walmart. Sure back in the day when the most sophisticated military hardware was rifles and cannons, you could fight an army but these days airpower is the key to victory and I did not see any fighter jets or attack helicopters in the gun shops. Perhaps Wilton has a B-52 stashed away in the back yard, just in case or a few might have build a mini drone to spy on the neighbours but I really can't see that doing much. However I am happy enough for the gun crowd to have their little delusions if it makes them feel happy and secure. No point in alarming people. Hendrik On 21/04/13 05:32, Scott Ritchey wrote: I echo Max's view. This was indeed an interesting read. The main reason the pro-gun community opposes National registration is fear of government (including our own). I'm certain that some on this list believe that fear of our own government is simply nuts, paranoia. I'm just as sure many Weimar Germans felt that way too; after all, Germany was the most civilized country on the planet. I encountered this little clip that may provide some historical perspective and food for thought: http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=0sujnvIV4g4 I haven't audited the numbers but, from memory, they are at least close. Scott -Original Message- From: Of Max Dillon Thanks for sharing that link, always enjoyable to read a well-reasoned and researched explanation of any part of our constitution. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: shot Down in Flames gun propaganda!
The Paki gunsmiths are making the arms for the insurgents. Making an AK is child's play for these guys. I think it was History channel that had the documentary about some white boy from england land that went looking at this issue. He walked to these bitty towns in the middle of arid noplace and was able to get the guys to make and sell him a few while he waited. Cost him all of an Andrew Jackson per gun, and the maker tossed in the first 100 rounds. clay On Apr 20, 2013, at 9:13 PM, Greg Fiorentino wrote: you can't fight a modern army with the stuff you buy at walmart. The Afghanis didn't even need a Walmart. I've seen videos of Afghani craftsmen making Enfield rifles with foot-powered lathes. Perhaps they now can make AK-47s using this kind of crude technology. Modern warfare still can't take and hold large territories without massive numbers of boots on the ground. Greg -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Hendrik and fay Sent: Saturday, April 20, 2013 8:06 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: shot Down in Flames gun propaganda! So the basis of that dribble is that if the citizens of Germany, Russia, Japan, etc had been armed that there would not have been as many deaths or the dictatorships would not have happened? I don't think so. The pro gun mob always wheel out this sort of thing because it is easy to understand by the average gun owner, however the reality is that you can't fight a modern army with the stuff you buy at walmart. Sure back in the day when the most sophisticated military hardware was rifles and cannons, you could fight an army but these days airpower is the key to victory and I did not see any fighter jets or attack helicopters in the gun shops. Perhaps Wilton has a B-52 stashed away in the back yard, just in case or a few might have build a mini drone to spy on the neighbours but I really can't see that doing much. However I am happy enough for the gun crowd to have their little delusions if it makes them feel happy and secure. No point in alarming people. Hendrik On 21/04/13 05:32, Scott Ritchey wrote: I echo Max's view. This was indeed an interesting read. The main reason the pro-gun community opposes National registration is fear of government (including our own). I'm certain that some on this list believe that fear of our own government is simply nuts, paranoia. I'm just as sure many Weimar Germans felt that way too; after all, Germany was the most civilized country on the planet. I encountered this little clip that may provide some historical perspective and food for thought: http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=0sujnvIV4g4 I haven't audited the numbers but, from memory, they are at least close. Scott -Original Message- From: Of Max Dillon Thanks for sharing that link, always enjoyable to read a well-reasoned and researched explanation of any part of our constitution. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: shot Down in Flames gun propaganda!
That fellow who was just re elected has not made any sweeping statements of evil doing either. I do not trust folks who come with a story of being bringers of sweetness and light. They are charlatans who should be run out of town on a rail after a good tarring and feathering. Never trust the leader who wants a position of leadership, as they are not pure in their desires. I would follow a man or woman who was thrust into a position of leadership against their will who wants nothing more than to be allowed to return to his previous livelihood as quickly as possible once the task is accomplished. Politicians are like rats, they just breed more of the blasted critters to support their being there in the first place. On Apr 20, 2013, at 11:51 PM, Hendrik and fay wrote: That's a lot of what if's. Hitler promised a better future to a people desperate for a better life. Sure many could see that he and the NAZIs where evil and there where people with weapons in Germany, not a lot due to the restrictions of the Versailles treaty but you can't tell me that if someone had wanted to shoot Hitler they could not get a hold of a weapon? No the problem was roughly a third of Germans supported Hitler, a third supported the communists and a third supported the Weimar republic, which due to the Versailles treaty was pretty much a basket case. The bigger problem was that the military stood by and did nothing, just as the signatories to the Versailles treaty did nothing when Hitler abolished the constitution. Now you say that a militia could have stopped Hitler. The same thing would more than likely happen in the US if it went really downhill and people where suffering, it's all nice and good to wrap yourself up in the flag and clutch a copy of the constitution but if you're family is starving to death and someone comes along and promises a better future, what are you going to do? Think that that person might be up to no good and shoot him/her? Hitler didn't talk about about abolishing the rights of the people or declaring total war on the world on his way to power. Hendrik who is not going to keep discussing this On 21/04/13 14:28, G Mann wrote: The point that civilians with hunting rifles are no match for the military power is a point that is truly off point. In the case of guys like hitler, stalin, po pot, ad nausium, the point is not civilians against the military after these despotic s took charge of the military and used them against the civilian populations... the valid point is civilians vs despots before they gain total control and military power... Case in point.. Hitler was a very unsuccessful civilian and successful in manipulation to gain power. There could be good argument made that had the citizenry simply paid attention and used the application of armed force at that early stage, millions of lives world wide would have not been lost. One armed citizen, with one bullet, at the right time and place, millions alive because of it. Not citizens with hunting rifles and kitchen knives against a well armed and supplied military.. In response to Greg, above Afgani comment. I lived in Afghanistan and the Northern Tribal Territories for 7 years. I have seen the gun makers in action, used the weapons they made, had them make some for my personal use. This was many years ago and even then, an AK-47 was well within their work scope. However, the Russians made so many, why bother making one when you could just shoot a Russian and take his along with his ammo and food. Case in point, poorly armed civilians with purpose against huge, well armed and supplied army... Who went home and who stayed? Your call. Grant... AZ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Fw: 1991 Mercedes 350SDL - $1000 (Jamaica Plain)
Dieselhead wrote: still keeping fingers crossed on my '91 350SDL at 205 kmi. Wilton An SDL at 200k miles is just over a pup. IMHO, an OM603 is a pup until it crosses 200K. Unless, of course, it's a 3.5L with a leaky head gasket and hydrolocked #1 piston. Mitch. Yep Head gasket is an E service item on a 350SDL. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: shot Down in Flames gun propaganda!
Another nomination for the Quotes page! Politicians are like rats, they just breed more of the blasted critters to support their being there in the first place. Clay ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Fw: 93 mercedes diesel - $1500 (south coast)
Nor this'n either. Fred Moir Lynn MA Diesel preferred. - Forwarded Message - From: fred.s...@yahoo.com fred.s...@yahoo.com To: fredy4.s...@yahoo.com Sent: Sunday, April 21, 2013 6:20 PM Subject: 93 mercedes diesel - $1500 (south coast) fred.s...@yahoo.com has forwarded you this craigslist.org posting. Please see below for more information. Visit the posting at http://boston.craigslist.org/sob/cto/3750209398.html to contact the person who posted this. 93 mercedes diesel Date: 2013-04-17, 8:45PM 1993 mercedes 300D 5-cylinder diesel , runs and drives and has NO rot , please call 508-728-7248. My name is chris * Location: south coast * it's NOT ok to contact this poster with services or other commercial interests Original URL: http://boston.craigslist.org/sob/cto/3750209398.html this craigslist posting was forwarded to you by someone using our email-a-friend feature - if you want to prevent these, please go to: http://www.craigslist.org/cgi-bin/te/U2FsdGVkX18yMzA4MjMwOK_tXIEA1HnCzTR9FWho_s3cAm7prbSzg9bFrkHWzySjtwbPTE8KCyedRAGqp7IW1Q ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] It starts in Park
Quartz clocks have one of two problems: 1) bad capacitors 2) broken axle on one of the plastic gears. I have fixed both of these with great success. New capacitors is what it sounds like. The broken axle (from ham-handed setting) is trickier, but I use a fine drill bit to drill down into the shaft that used to have a little pip of an axle coming out of it, then use a bit of straight pin (clipped off) as a new axle. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] CL morons
Wunnums running for Congress! --R On 4/21/13 5:07 PM, WILTON wrote: They don't have a franchise in the Chuckietown area, do they? ;) Wilton - Original Message - From: Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, April 21, 2013 4:53 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] CL morons I think I know them ol boys! --R On 4/21/13 4:46 PM, clay wrote: http://seattle.craigslist.org/sno/cto/3757715372.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] CL morons
I noticed. ;) Wilton - Original Message - From: Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, April 21, 2013 10:56 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] CL morons Wunnums running for Congress! --R On 4/21/13 5:07 PM, WILTON wrote: They don't have a franchise in the Chuckietown area, do they? ;) Wilton - Original Message - From: Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, April 21, 2013 4:53 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] CL morons I think I know them ol boys! --R On 4/21/13 4:46 PM, clay wrote: http://seattle.craigslist.org/sno/cto/3757715372.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] CL morons
Wunnums running for Congress! --R 535 ovums in congress already! 9 ovums are Supremes! wunnuvums the liarin chief ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Martha Returns!
The Mercedes Martha Stewart has returned with a vengeance! See the results of Martha's attack on the finish of the S500, which was so bad according to one detailing shop that, You're wasting your money trying to resurrect that. http://penoff.com/Penoff.com/S500_Detailing.html Booyah! Dan/Martha ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Oil cooler lines
On Sun, Apr 21, 2013 at 7:24 AM, Tim Crone bb...@crone.us wrote: On Apr 21, 2013 7:23 AM, Tim Crone wrote: I think the oil cooler itself is the same. I was lucky enough to find an 85 SD in the pnp yesterday. Someone already pulled the oil cooler, but after two hours of contortions I was able to pull the lines (definitely the new version) without having a jack or Allen wrenches. For future reference, the lines are routed very differently, but the newer lines can be stuck in the older chassis. I will have to fashion a brace as they are completely wrong in that regard. Now I just have to decide how to approach the cooler itself. And then of course the rest of the stuff I might as well do... :) Best, Tim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] CL morons
President and Vice President 2014 ?? They seem to have the political genius look so necessary to attract the average voter today. One or both of the parties will want them, I'm sure.. On Sun, Apr 21, 2013 at 1:46 PM, clay redgh...@comcast.net wrote: http://seattle.craigslist.org/sno/cto/3757715372.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Martha Returns!
To echo Wilton: Attaboy! I'd like to bring you my white 240D. The Mercedes Martha Stewart has returned with a vengeance! See the results of Martha's attack on the finish of the S500, which was so bad according to one detailing shop that, You're wasting your money trying to resurrect that. http://penoff.com/Penoff.com/S500_Detailing.html Booyah! Dan/Martha ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Martha Returns!
On Sun, 21 Apr 2013 23:37:16 -0400 Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: The Mercedes Martha Stewart has returned with a vengeance! See the results of Martha's attack on the finish of the S500, which was so bad according to one detailing shop that, You're wasting your money trying to resurrect that. http://penoff.com/Penoff.com/S500_Detailing.html Wow! Are you going to take it back to the detailing shop and show them the results of your work? Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] odo sticking
hi Clay! thanks, but i'm pretty particular about how i reset the Trip Meter, and never reset a Trip Meter while moving. i wouldn't expect both the main Odo and Trip Meter to stick together even if i had. oddly enough they both started working again before i could even get stopped, but i don't expect they're going to get better by themselves in the long run. cheers! e On 21/Apr/13 17:39, clay wrote: Could be imminent failure or you did not get it set back fully when you poked the button and it is stuck midway. Do not reset the trip odo while in motion. Punch the button a few times when fully stopped and it should behave again. clay On Apr 20, 2013, at 6:12 PM, ernest breakfield wrote: hi all! i noticed last week that the odometer and trip meter seemed to 'stick' for a few miles, while the speedo seemed to behave normally. is this the typical symptom of the gears slipping on their shaft, or something else? any tips on how to narrow it down to what needs attention, or any instructions on how i might approach addressing this myself? cheers! e '85 300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Oil cooler lines
Apr 21, 2013, at 10:42 PM, Tim Crone bb...@crone.us wrote: but after two hours of contortions I was able to pull the lines (definitely the new version) without having a jack or Allen wrenches. Why didn't you buy new lines? IIRC they are about 60 bucks for the pair. Rick Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
