Re: [MBZ] 300SD available to nice English people
No, looks fine to me, your flavour of colour is an offence to those who harbour a secret love for her royal highness Liz. Hendrik who is ageing On 29/08/13 13:39, Andrew Strasfogel wrote: You should talk. Colour looks a bit funny with the superfluous u. On Wed, Aug 28, 2013 at 10:16 PM, Hendrik and Fay heni...@gmail.com wrote: Ahh come on Jaime you been here long enough to expect this sort of thing. Sure the comments where a tad harsh but the base question was, is there any rust. We have seen plenty of ads where the seller goes on about a perfect body and further investigation reveals, rust, scratches and dings. And whilst we are critiquing, me no likey those headlights and the steering wheel ain't straight. However it is a nice looking car and if it's as described a good buy for a low mile 300SD. Although it may be the lighting but the seats look a funny colour. Hendrik who is trolling along ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 300SD available
Jaime wrote: Wow... you guys are cruel. I'm passing this along as an honest car I can vouch for that someone here might be interested in. I wasn't attempting to deceive any of you, or looking for a critique of his skills as a craigslist poster. This is really a miserable group sometimes. Yup. We eat our young, sometimes. However, is the list to blame? You provided a craigslist link with a very simple introduction. Here is the ad for the 300SD I mentioned in the past: I, for one, did not go back and see what else you may have said earlier. So with no more reference than one I mentioned I took it to be just another craigslist ad. So why did you expect the list to treat it any different than any other posted ad? Now, if you said, I know this to be a good car. or I know the seller and the car. then I think you could have reason to complain. As it is, it seems to me to be too late to be complaining. -- Philip, who eats nails - and _likes_ it. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 108
Kaleb wrote: The 280SE and SEL are fuel injected. I believe there are other fuel injected models also. The E originally meant fuel injected - and I think for the 108 vintage cars it still did. --Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 300SD available
Liberal amounts of 3M Adhesive Remover will take it off with minimal effort. I've done it more times than I care to recall. I really hate those things Dan Sent from my iPad On Aug 28, 2013, at 9:45 PM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote: Wonder if I can get that deflector off without leaving a scar? Wilton - Original Message - From: WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, August 28, 2013 9:43 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 300SD available Yep. 'Looks good. Hmm. Wilton - Original Message - From: Jon Agne jonag...@gwi.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, August 28, 2013 9:16 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 300SD available I'm with Dimitri... and the wind deflector is not an issue for a serious buyer who knows anything. On Aug 28, 2013, at 8:33 PM, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: I have your back here Jaime. I think it looks pretty nice! Well except for the tacky sunroof wind deflector:) Sent from my iPhone On Aug 28, 2013, at 8:16 PM, Jaime Kopchinski jaime...@gmail.com wrote: Wow... you guys are cruel. I'm passing this along as an honest car I can vouch for that someone here might be interested in. I wasn't attempting to deceive any of you, or looking for a critique of his skills as a craigslist poster. This is really a miserable group sometimes. Jaime On Wed, Aug 28, 2013 at 12:54 PM, G Mann g2ma...@gmail.com wrote: Neu Joesey... Rust belt car... pretty on the outside.. I want pics of the salt rust damage on the bottom and at the wheel wells.. at any price... I'm spoiled by the rust free cars here in Arizona.. 130K miles.. hmmm.. and I trust that because? On Wed, Aug 28, 2013 at 9:08 AM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote: mahwah , home of the jackson whites and gateway to airmont. my kinda place! On Wed, Aug 28, 2013 at 7:41 AM, Jaime Kopchinski jaime...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, Here is the ad for the 300SD I mentioned in the past: http://newjersey.craigslist.org/cto/4028189435.html Jaime -- Jaime Kopchinski http://www.jaimekop.com/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars * *www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Jaime Kopchinski http://www.jaimekop.com/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1984 300D Air conditioning
On Aug 28, 2013, at 6:50 AM, Gerry Archer arche...@embarqmail.com wrote: From: Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net I have heard it recommended that an input filter be used on formerly-shrapnelled systems. The flush isn't always quite good enough. -- Jim Read that too but couldn't find a source for the filters http://auto-air-compressor.com/in-line-filter.html http://www.ackits.com/c/inlinefilters/Universal+In-line+Filters.html http://www.autozone.com/autozone/parts/1985-Mercedes-Benz-300DT/A-C-Inline-Filter-Kit/_/N-ius9lZ91u1a?searchText=Inline%2520ac%2520filter http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B008PKUTYY/ref=mp_s_a_1_9?qid=138034sr=8-9pi=AC_SX110_SY165 http://www.autoacforum.com/messageview.cfm?catid=2threadid=10431 Rick Sent from my iPhone. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 108
I have never owned a 108 with a V-8, but the ones I had with the inline six were good cars and did well in the road. I like the simplicity of the sizes and the amount of space in the engine compartment they give you. The V-8s always sort of scared me with their fuel systems and the appearance of being shoehorned into the car. From what I understand the performance wasn't that great with the larger engines, either, but that's hearsay for me. Dan On Aug 28, 2013, at 10:03 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net wrote: When speaking of 108s, is the 6 cylinder or v8 better suited to that body? I think I would rather have a v8 if I was getting one but the 6 would probably be easier to work on and not as front heavy. Just got to thinking about this and wondered what some of you 108 people thought. Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 300SD available
'Needs to be lost completely. Wilton - Original Message - From: Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, August 28, 2013 11:46 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 300SD available youse guys, but it's getting pretty rare On Wed, Aug 28, 2013 at 7:59 PM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote: But, do they say y'all or youse guys? ;) Wilton - Original Message - From: dsereta...@yahoo.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, August 28, 2013 7:43 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 300SD available True southern Joisey is almost into Maryland. Sent from my iPhone On Aug 28, 2013, at 12:59 PM, Michael Canfield slozuk...@gmail.com wrote: Actually I have bought cars that spent their life in Southern NJ and I would dare to say that many are just as rust free as AZ cars with less sun damage. North Joyzee is another story. Mike On Aug 28, 2013 12:54 PM, G Mann g2ma...@gmail.com wrote: Neu Joesey... Rust belt car... pretty on the outside.. I want pics of the salt rust damage on the bottom and at the wheel wells.. at any price... I'm spoiled by the rust free cars here in Arizona.. 130K miles.. hmmm.. and I trust that because? On Wed, Aug 28, 2013 at 9:08 AM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote: mahwah , home of the jackson whites and gateway to airmont. my kinda place! On Wed, Aug 28, 2013 at 7:41 AM, Jaime Kopchinski jaime...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, Here is the ad for the 300SD I mentioned in the past: http://newjersey.craigslist.**org/cto/4028189435.htmlhttp://newjersey.craigslist.org/cto/4028189435.html Jaime -- Jaime Kopchinski http://www.jaimekop.com/ __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars * *www.BuyEUROparts.com* __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars * *www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 300SD available
I hate 'em, too; hate the big hole under them even more. Wilton - Original Message - From: Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2013 5:56 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 300SD available Liberal amounts of 3M Adhesive Remover will take it off with minimal effort. I've done it more times than I care to recall. I really hate those things Dan Sent from my iPad On Aug 28, 2013, at 9:45 PM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote: Wonder if I can get that deflector off without leaving a scar? Wilton - Original Message - From: WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, August 28, 2013 9:43 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 300SD available Yep. 'Looks good. Hmm. Wilton - Original Message - From: Jon Agne jonag...@gwi.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, August 28, 2013 9:16 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 300SD available I'm with Dimitri... and the wind deflector is not an issue for a serious buyer who knows anything. On Aug 28, 2013, at 8:33 PM, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: I have your back here Jaime. I think it looks pretty nice! Well except for the tacky sunroof wind deflector:) Sent from my iPhone On Aug 28, 2013, at 8:16 PM, Jaime Kopchinski jaime...@gmail.com wrote: Wow... you guys are cruel. I'm passing this along as an honest car I can vouch for that someone here might be interested in. I wasn't attempting to deceive any of you, or looking for a critique of his skills as a craigslist poster. This is really a miserable group sometimes. Jaime On Wed, Aug 28, 2013 at 12:54 PM, G Mann g2ma...@gmail.com wrote: Neu Joesey... Rust belt car... pretty on the outside.. I want pics of the salt rust damage on the bottom and at the wheel wells.. at any price... I'm spoiled by the rust free cars here in Arizona.. 130K miles.. hmmm.. and I trust that because? On Wed, Aug 28, 2013 at 9:08 AM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote: mahwah , home of the jackson whites and gateway to airmont. my kinda place! On Wed, Aug 28, 2013 at 7:41 AM, Jaime Kopchinski jaime...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, Here is the ad for the 300SD I mentioned in the past: http://newjersey.craigslist.org/cto/4028189435.html Jaime -- Jaime Kopchinski http://www.jaimekop.com/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars * *www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Jaime Kopchinski http://www.jaimekop.com/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1984 300D Air conditioning
Michael E. Esh me...@horizonenv.com michael...@mac.com http://www.yugster.com/invite/138123 (C) 231.286.2344 On Aug 29, 2013, at 07:25 AM, Mike Esh michael...@mac.com wrote: I found this site that has the ES-12a 6 oz. cans for $8.00 each. They have other amounts and sizes available as well. Has anyone ordered from this company? How may cans would I need for a complete refill of the system including new dryer and expansion valve? The specs state that each 6oz. can is equivilent to 18 oz of 134a. They have a special going on now to get 6 cans for $38.00 plus $7.00 shipping which brings it down to $7.50 http://autorefrigerants.com/co00033.htm Thanks, Mike Michael E. Esh me...@horizonenv.com michael...@mac.com http://www.yugster.com/invite/138123 (C) 231.286.2344 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 108
The E originally meant fuel injected - and I think for the 108 vintage cars it still did. Until the letters came in front, in the 90's, that's exactly (and only) what E meant. Not definitive, though, as SL's (starting with the gullwing/300) never had an E, even when fuel-injected. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 108
I've owned both and like the feel of the 6 cylinder cars over the v8s. A nice running M130 in a 280SE/L is quite powerful. Jaime On Wednesday, August 28, 2013, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: When speaking of 108s, is the 6 cylinder or v8 better suited to that body? I think I would rather have a v8 if I was getting one but the 6 would probably be easier to work on and not as front heavy. Just got to thinking about this and wondered what some of you 108 people thought. Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Jaime Kopchinski http://www.jaimekop.com/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 108
I've owned both and like the feel of the 6 cylinder cars over the v8s. A nice running M130 in a 280SE/L is quite powerful. The M130 in our 250C (convertible) ran quite nicely. IIRC. The Zenith carbs, however... -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 108
Now don't start trashing the Zeniths. Jaime and I will have to start defending them. Again. Maybe it's just me, but I had at least three MBs with Zeniths over the years, and I never had a problem with them once they were adjusted and set up properly. Dan On Aug 29, 2013, at 11:02 AM, Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net wrote: I've owned both and like the feel of the 6 cylinder cars over the v8s. A nice running M130 in a 280SE/L is quite powerful. The M130 in our 250C (convertible) ran quite nicely. IIRC. The Zenith carbs, however... -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 108
you would be less happy with them overall had they leaked On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 11:17 AM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: Now don't start trashing the Zeniths. Jaime and I will have to start defending them. Again. Maybe it's just me, but I had at least three MBs with Zeniths over the years, and I never had a problem with them once they were adjusted and set up properly. Dan On Aug 29, 2013, at 11:02 AM, Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net wrote: I've owned both and like the feel of the 6 cylinder cars over the v8s. A nice running M130 in a 280SE/L is quite powerful. The M130 in our 250C (convertible) ran quite nicely. IIRC. The Zenith carbs, however... -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars * *www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 108
I had a couple that leaked on my 1970 250C, but after they were rebuilt and the air cleaner bolt properly tightened I never had a problem with them after that. On Aug 29, 2013, at 11:20 AM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote: you would be less happy with them overall had they leaked On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 11:17 AM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: Now don't start trashing the Zeniths. Jaime and I will have to start defending them. Again. Maybe it's just me, but I had at least three MBs with Zeniths over the years, and I never had a problem with them once they were adjusted and set up properly. Dan On Aug 29, 2013, at 11:02 AM, Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net wrote: I've owned both and like the feel of the 6 cylinder cars over the v8s. A nice running M130 in a 280SE/L is quite powerful. The M130 in our 250C (convertible) ran quite nicely. IIRC. The Zenith carbs, however... -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars * *www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 108
What do you think about this? http://topeka.craigslist.org/cto/4025794422.html Sent from my iPhone On Aug 29, 2013, at 9:35 AM, Jaime Kopchinski jaime...@gmail.com wrote: I've owned both and like the feel of the 6 cylinder cars over the v8s. A nice running M130 in a 280SE/L is quite powerful. Jaime On Wednesday, August 28, 2013, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: When speaking of 108s, is the 6 cylinder or v8 better suited to that body? I think I would rather have a v8 if I was getting one but the 6 would probably be easier to work on and not as front heavy. Just got to thinking about this and wondered what some of you 108 people thought. Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Jaime Kopchinski http://www.jaimekop.com/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 108
i'd be interested On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 11:54 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.netwrote: What do you think about this? http://topeka.craigslist.org/cto/4025794422.html Sent from my iPhone On Aug 29, 2013, at 9:35 AM, Jaime Kopchinski jaime...@gmail.com wrote: I've owned both and like the feel of the 6 cylinder cars over the v8s. A nice running M130 in a 280SE/L is quite powerful. Jaime On Wednesday, August 28, 2013, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: When speaking of 108s, is the 6 cylinder or v8 better suited to that body? I think I would rather have a v8 if I was getting one but the 6 would probably be easier to work on and not as front heavy. Just got to thinking about this and wondered what some of you 108 people thought. Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Jaime Kopchinski http://www.jaimekop.com/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars * *www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 300SD available
Cruel would be suggesting it was a POS. I was merely offering suggestions to help them sell their car. -Curt Date: Wed, 28 Aug 2013 20:16:42 -0400 From: Jaime Kopchinski jaime...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] 300SD available Message-ID: cacy-bajfdckdrtt5tmjknipcctgv1jm-jkfdf4d66dg5mls...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Wow... you guys are cruel. I'm passing this along as an honest car I can vouch for that someone here might be interested in. I wasn't attempting to deceive any of you, or looking for a critique of his skills as a craigslist poster. This is really a miserable group sometimes. Jaime ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 108
Not bad for $3k I'm guessing. Looks like the body has some dings and the upholstery is toast, but otherwise looks nice. Buy it, ship it to me for the full Martha treatment, then come get it. Dan Sent from my iPad On Aug 29, 2013, at 11:54 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net wrote: What do you think about this? http://topeka.craigslist.org/cto/4025794422.html Sent from my iPhone On Aug 29, 2013, at 9:35 AM, Jaime Kopchinski jaime...@gmail.com wrote: I've owned both and like the feel of the 6 cylinder cars over the v8s. A nice running M130 in a 280SE/L is quite powerful. Jaime On Wednesday, August 28, 2013, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: When speaking of 108s, is the 6 cylinder or v8 better suited to that body? I think I would rather have a v8 if I was getting one but the 6 would probably be easier to work on and not as front heavy. Just got to thinking about this and wondered what some of you 108 people thought. Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Jaime Kopchinski http://www.jaimekop.com/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 300SD available to nice English people
Please be considerate. Those extra vowels are sucking up precious bandwidth. On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 2:02 AM, Hendrik and Fay heni...@gmail.com wrote: No, looks fine to me, your flavour of colour is an offence to those who harbour a secret love for her royal highness Liz. Hendrik who is ageing On 29/08/13 13:39, Andrew Strasfogel wrote: You should talk. Colour looks a bit funny with the superfluous u. On Wed, Aug 28, 2013 at 10:16 PM, Hendrik and Fay heni...@gmail.com wrote: Ahh come on Jaime you been here long enough to expect this sort of thing. Sure the comments where a tad harsh but the base question was, is there any rust. We have seen plenty of ads where the seller goes on about a perfect body and further investigation reveals, rust, scratches and dings. And whilst we are critiquing, me no likey those headlights and the steering wheel ain't straight. However it is a nice looking car and if it's as described a good buy for a low mile 300SD. Although it may be the lighting but the seats look a funny colour. Hendrik who is trolling along __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 300SD available to nice English people
They should donate them to the Balkans. --R On 8/29/13 1:05 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote: Please be considerate. Those extra vowels are sucking up precious bandwidth. On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 2:02 AM, Hendrik and Fay heni...@gmail.com wrote: No, looks fine to me, your flavour of colour is an offence to those who harbour a secret love for her royal highness Liz. Hendrik who is ageing On 29/08/13 13:39, Andrew Strasfogel wrote: You should talk. Colour looks a bit funny with the superfluous u. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 300SD available to nice English people
That would be fun to see. All those vowel-less words peppered with strategically inserted us On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 1:16 PM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: They should donate them to the Balkans. --R On 8/29/13 1:05 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote: Please be considerate. Those extra vowels are sucking up precious bandwidth. On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 2:02 AM, Hendrik and Fay heni...@gmail.com wrote: No, looks fine to me, your flavour of colour is an offence to those who harbour a secret love for her royal highness Liz. Hendrik who is ageing On 29/08/13 13:39, Andrew Strasfogel wrote: You should talk. Colour looks a bit funny with the superfluous u. __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 108
it's very likely worth 3 but consider that he'll get it for 2500 or less. but i'm guessing someone has already bought it in the low to mid 2 grand range On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 12:48 PM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: Not bad for $3k I'm guessing. Looks like the body has some dings and the upholstery is toast, but otherwise looks nice. Buy it, ship it to me for the full Martha treatment, then come get it. Dan Sent from my iPad On Aug 29, 2013, at 11:54 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net wrote: What do you think about this? http://topeka.craigslist.org/cto/4025794422.html Sent from my iPhone On Aug 29, 2013, at 9:35 AM, Jaime Kopchinski jaime...@gmail.com wrote: I've owned both and like the feel of the 6 cylinder cars over the v8s. A nice running M130 in a 280SE/L is quite powerful. Jaime On Wednesday, August 28, 2013, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: When speaking of 108s, is the 6 cylinder or v8 better suited to that body? I think I would rather have a v8 if I was getting one but the 6 would probably be easier to work on and not as front heavy. Just got to thinking about this and wondered what some of you 108 people thought. Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Jaime Kopchinski http://www.jaimekop.com/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars * *www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 108
That's pretty darn nice. Sent from my iPhone On Aug 29, 2013, at 11:54 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net wrote: What do you think about this? http://topeka.craigslist.org/cto/4025794422.html Sent from my iPhone On Aug 29, 2013, at 9:35 AM, Jaime Kopchinski jaime...@gmail.com wrote: I've owned both and like the feel of the 6 cylinder cars over the v8s. A nice running M130 in a 280SE/L is quite powerful. Jaime On Wednesday, August 28, 2013, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: When speaking of 108s, is the 6 cylinder or v8 better suited to that body? I think I would rather have a v8 if I was getting one but the 6 would probably be easier to work on and not as front heavy. Just got to thinking about this and wondered what some of you 108 people thought. Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Jaime Kopchinski http://www.jaimekop.com/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 108
And it's a 6- just to your liking. Sent from my iPhone On Aug 29, 2013, at 12:06 PM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote: i'd be interested On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 11:54 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.netwrote: What do you think about this? http://topeka.craigslist.org/cto/4025794422.html Sent from my iPhone On Aug 29, 2013, at 9:35 AM, Jaime Kopchinski jaime...@gmail.com wrote: I've owned both and like the feel of the 6 cylinder cars over the v8s. A nice running M130 in a 280SE/L is quite powerful. Jaime On Wednesday, August 28, 2013, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: When speaking of 108s, is the 6 cylinder or v8 better suited to that body? I think I would rather have a v8 if I was getting one but the 6 would probably be easier to work on and not as front heavy. Just got to thinking about this and wondered what some of you 108 people thought. Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Jaime Kopchinski http://www.jaimekop.com/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars * *www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 108
I know someone on this list who has a complete like new interior for that baby:) Sent from my iPhone On Aug 29, 2013, at 12:48 PM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: Not bad for $3k I'm guessing. Looks like the body has some dings and the upholstery is toast, but otherwise looks nice. Buy it, ship it to me for the full Martha treatment, then come get it. Dan Sent from my iPad On Aug 29, 2013, at 11:54 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net wrote: What do you think about this? http://topeka.craigslist.org/cto/4025794422.html Sent from my iPhone On Aug 29, 2013, at 9:35 AM, Jaime Kopchinski jaime...@gmail.com wrote: I've owned both and like the feel of the 6 cylinder cars over the v8s. A nice running M130 in a 280SE/L is quite powerful. Jaime On Wednesday, August 28, 2013, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: When speaking of 108s, is the 6 cylinder or v8 better suited to that body? I think I would rather have a v8 if I was getting one but the 6 would probably be easier to work on and not as front heavy. Just got to thinking about this and wondered what some of you 108 people thought. Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Jaime Kopchinski http://www.jaimekop.com/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1984 300D Air conditioning
Buy it directly from manufacturer: http://www.es-refrigerants.com/ Use the industrial ES-12. You won't be disappointed. On Aug 29, 2013, at 9:04 AM, Mike Esh wrote: Michael E. Esh me...@horizonenv.com michael...@mac.com http://www.yugster.com/invite/138123 (C) 231.286.2344 On Aug 29, 2013, at 07:25 AM, Mike Esh michael...@mac.com wrote: I found this site that has the ES-12a 6 oz. cans for $8.00 each. They have other amounts and sizes available as well. Has anyone ordered from this company? How may cans would I need for a complete refill of the system including new dryer and expansion valve? The specs state that each 6oz. can is equivilent to 18 oz of 134a. They have a special going on now to get 6 cans for $38.00 plus $7.00 shipping which brings it down to $7.50 http://autorefrigerants.com/co00033.htm Thanks, Mike Michael E. Esh me...@horizonenv.com michael...@mac.com http://www.yugster.com/invite/138123 (C) 231.286.2344 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 108
That would be meif you like pristine green leather! On Aug 29, 2013, at 1:36 PM, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: I know someone on this list who has a complete like new interior for that baby:) Sent from my iPhone On Aug 29, 2013, at 12:48 PM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: Not bad for $3k I'm guessing. Looks like the body has some dings and the upholstery is toast, but otherwise looks nice. Buy it, ship it to me for the full Martha treatment, then come get it. Dan Sent from my iPad On Aug 29, 2013, at 11:54 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net wrote: What do you think about this? http://topeka.craigslist.org/cto/4025794422.html Sent from my iPhone On Aug 29, 2013, at 9:35 AM, Jaime Kopchinski jaime...@gmail.com wrote: I've owned both and like the feel of the 6 cylinder cars over the v8s. A nice running M130 in a 280SE/L is quite powerful. Jaime On Wednesday, August 28, 2013, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: When speaking of 108s, is the 6 cylinder or v8 better suited to that body? I think I would rather have a v8 if I was getting one but the 6 would probably be easier to work on and not as front heavy. Just got to thinking about this and wondered what some of you 108 people thought. Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Jaime Kopchinski http://www.jaimekop.com/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 108
Oh boy, I may have to get with you on that. Got the carpet etc in green also? Sent from my iPhone On Aug 29, 2013, at 2:25 PM, Jon Agne jonag...@gwi.net wrote: That would be meif you like pristine green leather! On Aug 29, 2013, at 1:36 PM, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: I know someone on this list who has a complete like new interior for that baby:) Sent from my iPhone On Aug 29, 2013, at 12:48 PM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: Not bad for $3k I'm guessing. Looks like the body has some dings and the upholstery is toast, but otherwise looks nice. Buy it, ship it to me for the full Martha treatment, then come get it. Dan Sent from my iPad On Aug 29, 2013, at 11:54 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net wrote: What do you think about this? http://topeka.craigslist.org/cto/4025794422.html Sent from my iPhone On Aug 29, 2013, at 9:35 AM, Jaime Kopchinski jaime...@gmail.com wrote: I've owned both and like the feel of the 6 cylinder cars over the v8s. A nice running M130 in a 280SE/L is quite powerful. Jaime On Wednesday, August 28, 2013, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: When speaking of 108s, is the 6 cylinder or v8 better suited to that body? I think I would rather have a v8 if I was getting one but the 6 would probably be easier to work on and not as front heavy. Just got to thinking about this and wondered what some of you 108 people thought. Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Jaime Kopchinski http://www.jaimekop.com/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1984 300D Air conditioning
At 09:04 AM 8/29/2013, Mike wrote re the Enviro-System products: Has anyone ordered from this company? How may cans would I need for a complete refill of the system including new dryer and expansion valve? The specs state that each 6oz. can is equivilent to 18 oz of 134a. They have a special going on now to get 6 cans for $38.00 plus $7.00 shipping which brings it down to $7.50 http://autorefrigerants.com/co00033.htm I don't know the answer as to how many cans you would need. Perhaps you should call them with information about the capacities of your car's system. The usual approach involves reaching certain pressures as measured by a set of gauges. I ordered from them a year or two ago. I got the R-12 top up kit described at the bottom of the page at the above address. My Porsche 968 had gradually lost R-12 over a 20 year period - the sight glass was showing just occasional foam and the cooling barely perceptible. I added a can of stopleak and one can of their ES-12. Bubbles in the sight glass ceased and the cooling came back. Still working well. I had read good things about ES products at www.968forums.com . As I recall there were some oddities about the ES refrigerant. At least at one time they were not recommending it for a complete refill nor did they recommend pulling a vacuum on the system. Again, calling them about your situation probably would be best. Dave Gilmore, Cameron WV Look thy last on all things lovely,every hour. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1984 300D Air conditioning
Does anyone have any experience with their ES502 replacement for R-22? I suspect this is a propane mix of some sort? I'm going to ask my former neighbor about this, as he's an engineer who works with commercial AC systems but has done some hacks on his home system... Dan Sent from my iPad On Aug 29, 2013, at 4:21 PM, David Kristin Gilmore dandkgilm...@frontier.com wrote: At 09:04 AM 8/29/2013, Mike wrote re the Enviro-System products: Has anyone ordered from this company? How may cans would I need for a complete refill of the system including new dryer and expansion valve? The specs state that each 6oz. can is equivilent to 18 oz of 134a. They have a special going on now to get 6 cans for $38.00 plus $7.00 shipping which brings it down to $7.50http://autorefrigerants.com/co00033.htm I don't know the answer as to how many cans you would need. Perhaps you should call them with information about the capacities of your car's system. The usual approach involves reaching certain pressures as measured by a set of gauges. I ordered from them a year or two ago. I got the R-12 top up kit described at the bottom of the page at the above address. My Porsche 968 had gradually lost R-12 over a 20 year period - the sight glass was showing just occasional foam and the cooling barely perceptible. I added a can of stopleak and one can of their ES-12. Bubbles in the sight glass ceased and the cooling came back. Still working well. I had read good things about ES products at www.968forums.com . As I recall there were some oddities about the ES refrigerant. At least at one time they were not recommending it for a complete refill nor did they recommend pulling a vacuum on the system. Again, calling them about your situation probably would be best. Dave Gilmore, Cameron WV Look thy last on all things lovely,every hour. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT power line ethernet
Thanks Scott - Is there any easy way to extend the rangeof my wifi - I' like to use my laptop downstairs at times... LarryT On 8/28/2013 5:06 PM, Scott Ritchey wrote: A repeater will cut your effective bandwidth in half or worse. -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Larry T Sent: Wednesday, August 28, 2013 1:39 PM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT power line ethernet speaking of the internet ;-) I am considering a wifi repeater -- anyone have good/bad recommendations? Thanks LarryT 91 300D On 8/28/2013 10:02 AM, Craig wrote: On Wed, 28 Aug 2013 08:16:44 -0400 Gerry Archer arche...@embarqmail.com wrote: If the circuits aren't listed, you can run a long wire (I've used a series of extension cords) between the two distant receptacles and check the voltage. If the voltage is 110v it's the same leg; if the voltage is 220v the receptacles are not on the same leg. That should read, If the circuits aren't listed, you can run a long wire (I've used a series of extension cords) between the two distant receptacles. Then measure the voltage between the two hot terminals. If the voltage is zero, it's the same leg; if the voltage is 220 VAC, the receptacles are not on the same leg. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 108
You bet. Also has very nice door panels. On Aug 29, 2013, at 3:42 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: Oh boy, I may have to get with you on that. Got the carpet etc in green also? Sent from my iPhone On Aug 29, 2013, at 2:25 PM, Jon Agne jonag...@gwi.net wrote: That would be meif you like pristine green leather! On Aug 29, 2013, at 1:36 PM, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: I know someone on this list who has a complete like new interior for that baby:) Sent from my iPhone On Aug 29, 2013, at 12:48 PM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: Not bad for $3k I'm guessing. Looks like the body has some dings and the upholstery is toast, but otherwise looks nice. Buy it, ship it to me for the full Martha treatment, then come get it. Dan Sent from my iPad On Aug 29, 2013, at 11:54 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net wrote: What do you think about this? http://topeka.craigslist.org/cto/4025794422.html Sent from my iPhone On Aug 29, 2013, at 9:35 AM, Jaime Kopchinski jaime...@gmail.com wrote: I've owned both and like the feel of the 6 cylinder cars over the v8s. A nice running M130 in a 280SE/L is quite powerful. Jaime On Wednesday, August 28, 2013, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: When speaking of 108s, is the 6 cylinder or v8 better suited to that body? I think I would rather have a v8 if I was getting one but the 6 would probably be easier to work on and not as front heavy. Just got to thinking about this and wondered what some of you 108 people thought. Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Jaime Kopchinski http://www.jaimekop.com/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 108
I saw it about 10 days ago. It is nice. Wish I had a 108 On Thursday, August 29, 2013, Jon Agne jonag...@gwi.net wrote: You bet. Also has very nice door panels. On Aug 29, 2013, at 3:42 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: Oh boy, I may have to get with you on that. Got the carpet etc in green also? Sent from my iPhone On Aug 29, 2013, at 2:25 PM, Jon Agne jonag...@gwi.net wrote: That would be meif you like pristine green leather! On Aug 29, 2013, at 1:36 PM, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: I know someone on this list who has a complete like new interior for that baby:) Sent from my iPhone On Aug 29, 2013, at 12:48 PM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: Not bad for $3k I'm guessing. Looks like the body has some dings and the upholstery is toast, but otherwise looks nice. Buy it, ship it to me for the full Martha treatment, then come get it. Dan Sent from my iPad On Aug 29, 2013, at 11:54 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net wrote: What do you think about this? http://topeka.craigslist.org/cto/4025794422.html Sent from my iPhone On Aug 29, 2013, at 9:35 AM, Jaime Kopchinski jaime...@gmail.com wrote: I've owned both and like the feel of the 6 cylinder cars over the v8s. A nice running M130 in a 280SE/L is quite powerful. Jaime On Wednesday, August 28, 2013, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: When speaking of 108s, is the 6 cylinder or v8 better suited to that body? I think I would rather have a v8 if I was getting one but the 6 would probably be easier to work on and not as front heavy. Just got to thinking about this and wondered what some of you 108 people thought. Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Jaime Kopchinski http://www.jaimekop.com/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Homebrew BioD
Anybody in the chicago area that could process 500 gal a month or so of soy oil into BioD? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Homebrew BioD
Reminds me: Honors student grandaughter (senior) at NC State U is working in a lab on production of fuels from algae. Wilton - Original Message - From: Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2013 5:48 PM Subject: [MBZ] Homebrew BioD Anybody in the chicago area that could process 500 gal a month or so of soy oil into BioD? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 108
Me too - I've owned 3 W108's with the last being a 4.5 - that engine was amazing - really smooth and powerful - that 280SEL was great on the interstate! Got terrible mpg's but a joy to drive. My 280SEwas an awesome car also - and the engine got low 20s mpg's. Also a beautiful car only lacking a big honking V8! Larryt On 8/29/2013 5:12 PM, Dwight Giles wrote: I saw it about 10 days ago. It is nice. Wish I had a 108 On Thursday, August 29, 2013, Jon Agne jonag...@gwi.net wrote: You bet. Also has very nice door panels. On Aug 29, 2013, at 3:42 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: Oh boy, I may have to get with you on that. Got the carpet etc in green also? Sent from my iPhone On Aug 29, 2013, at 2:25 PM, Jon Agne jonag...@gwi.net wrote: That would be meif you like pristine green leather! On Aug 29, 2013, at 1:36 PM, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: I know someone on this list who has a complete like new interior for that baby:) Sent from my iPhone On Aug 29, 2013, at 12:48 PM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: Not bad for $3k I'm guessing. Looks like the body has some dings and the upholstery is toast, but otherwise looks nice. Buy it, ship it to me for the full Martha treatment, then come get it. Dan Sent from my iPad On Aug 29, 2013, at 11:54 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net wrote: What do you think about this? http://topeka.craigslist.org/cto/4025794422.html Sent from my iPhone On Aug 29, 2013, at 9:35 AM, Jaime Kopchinski jaime...@gmail.com wrote: I've owned both and like the feel of the 6 cylinder cars over the v8s. A nice running M130 in a 280SE/L is quite powerful. Jaime On Wednesday, August 28, 2013, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: When speaking of 108s, is the 6 cylinder or v8 better suited to that body? I think I would rather have a v8 if I was getting one but the 6 would probably be easier to work on and not as front heavy. Just got to thinking about this and wondered what some of you 108 people thought. Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Jaime Kopchinski http://www.jaimekop.com/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT power line ethernet
How big is your estate? Mine seems to work fine upstairs from downstairs, across house, out on terrace, etc. ;) Wilton - Original Message - From: Larry T l02tur...@comcast.net To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2013 4:58 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT power line ethernet Thanks Scott - Is there any easy way to extend the rangeof my wifi - I' like to use my laptop downstairs at times... LarryT On 8/28/2013 5:06 PM, Scott Ritchey wrote: A repeater will cut your effective bandwidth in half or worse. -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Larry T Sent: Wednesday, August 28, 2013 1:39 PM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT power line ethernet speaking of the internet ;-) I am considering a wifi repeater -- anyone have good/bad recommendations? Thanks LarryT 91 300D On 8/28/2013 10:02 AM, Craig wrote: On Wed, 28 Aug 2013 08:16:44 -0400 Gerry Archer arche...@embarqmail.com wrote: If the circuits aren't listed, you can run a long wire (I've used a series of extension cords) between the two distant receptacles and check the voltage. If the voltage is 110v it's the same leg; if the voltage is 220v the receptacles are not on the same leg. That should read, If the circuits aren't listed, you can run a long wire (I've used a series of extension cords) between the two distant receptacles. Then measure the voltage between the two hot terminals. If the voltage is zero, it's the same leg; if the voltage is 220 VAC, the receptacles are not on the same leg. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 108
My pick of the 108 litter would be a 280SEL. If the FI got too costly, I am sure I could snag a FI system off a 3.3 dogde or similar and adapticate it. However if the pump is cared for, they will last a lifetime or more. The M130/M180 is so smooth and quiet. They are nice engines, especially euro/pre-smog 250SE is not bad 250S with webers would be nice Dan can have all the warped nasty zenights he wants. Another possibility is to snag the dual 2 barrel solexes off an early 220S M180. those just run. 111/112 is nice too. This grille is not as big though. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 108
My 280SE 4.5 got 17 mpg on the highway, and really wanted to run at 90 and up Enormous power out of the 4.5L, much more (and at much lower rpm) than the sixes, which were screaming at highway speed and as a result very fuel hungry (upper teens to very low 20's mpg). Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Homebrew BioD
On Aug 29, 2013, at 4:48 PM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: Anybody in the chicago area that could process 500 gal a month or so of soy oil into BioD? I'd love to, if I could find the feed stock. Is that a rhetorical question? I have the stuff to build a processor in storage. I just haven't bothered, because I am not going to pay yellow grease prices for feedstock. Rick Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Brake fiasco
I finally finished the complete front brake job on the 240D today, but...it's still not braking quite right. On the highway, with hard braking, I get a pulsation. There is also quite a bit of squealing. Here's what I did good and bad: Good: I used genuine MB flexible hoses, grease seals, bearing grease, left front bearing set, left front steel brake line. I used scale to measure grease and dial indicator to set bearings. Bad: I used remanufactured calipers, duralast pads and duralast rotors. I did this in the interest of time. I should have been more patient and ordered the good stuff from Gary! I also did not torque the lug nuts but I did use the wimpy factory lug wrench which can't realistically apply too much torque. I also didn't step on it to tighten! I've never had an issue with this approach so I doubt that I warped the rotors but you never know. What could be going on? Literally everything was replaced! Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT power line ethernet
You're better off trying an antenna than using a repeater or range extender, both of which will cause you to lose some bandwidth in the process. Your access point will have some antennas attached to it that can be removed and a larger antenna or more directional antenna can be attached. Dan On Aug 29, 2013, at 4:58 PM, Larry T l02tur...@comcast.net wrote: Thanks Scott - Is there any easy way to extend the rangeof my wifi - I' like to use my laptop downstairs at times... LarryT On 8/28/2013 5:06 PM, Scott Ritchey wrote: A repeater will cut your effective bandwidth in half or worse. -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Larry T Sent: Wednesday, August 28, 2013 1:39 PM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT power line ethernet speaking of the internet ;-) I am considering a wifi repeater -- anyone have good/bad recommendations? Thanks LarryT 91 300D On 8/28/2013 10:02 AM, Craig wrote: On Wed, 28 Aug 2013 08:16:44 -0400 Gerry Archer arche...@embarqmail.com wrote: If the circuits aren't listed, you can run a long wire (I've used a series of extension cords) between the two distant receptacles and check the voltage. If the voltage is 110v it's the same leg; if the voltage is 220v the receptacles are not on the same leg. That should read, If the circuits aren't listed, you can run a long wire (I've used a series of extension cords) between the two distant receptacles. Then measure the voltage between the two hot terminals. If the voltage is zero, it's the same leg; if the voltage is 220 VAC, the receptacles are not on the same leg. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Jabba parts ban
This conversation needs to be taken off line. On Sat, Aug 24, 2013 at 6:19 PM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote: he sent the money to milton to pay for me from 4+ years ago. sheesh, wilton, pay attention! On Sat, Aug 24, 2013 at 6:10 PM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote: 'Course, I've been following it. I helped start it in mid-June when I couldn't get parts (or any response) I ordered 31 May! Now, I'm just trying to find what msg I'm s'posed to have responded to (yeah, English majors, I know it's s'posed to be to which I'm s'posed to have responded). ;) WILTON - Original Message - From: Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Saturday, August 24, 2013 5:58 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Jabba parts ban you try to return your money via email, but i prevented him. he stole all the money to pay off my vendors from 4+ years ago but now they are paid off so he's ok and you should give him more money haven't you been following this story, wilton? this is too crazy even for me. how any of you could have given this guy money for months and made up stories as to how it was ok he didn't ship you parts (as he is learning and sick) is beyond me. On Sat, Aug 24, 2013 at 5:53 PM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote: Return to what? What did I miss? I keep up with my msgs fairly closely, and I have only one email address. Wilton - Original Message - From: Buymbparts buymbpa...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Saturday, August 24, 2013 5:32 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Jabba parts ban I enjoy the story line also, I'm dealing with a forum, and a handful of customers, that I do cherish, and sorry I let down, if it takes 4 years, ok, I will be here, you all are right about my knowledge of Mercedes, you all know far more than I do. Tom is coming back, finally after my divorce we are financially sound. If anybody on this forum wants genuine or OEM parts, order them, I will ship them, pay me when you see fit, I don't know what else I can do to earn trust again. Call me on Monday, my phone will be open. 1-800-741-5252. . I will make up for the wrongs I did . My goal is to give you guys genuine parts for your cars. Ps. Wilton, you haven't sent me a return email. Sent from my iPhone On Aug 24, 2013, at 3:17 PM, Scott Ritchey ritche...@nc.rr.com wrote: Actually, I don't care about the back story. If he is not a fast, reliable, competitive, and knowledgeable parts supplier then he is off my radar. Trent started life with such a reputation and soon lost it. If he reestablishes a solid reputation for, maybe 3-4 years, I'll reconsider. Of course, I still enjoy an entertaining story from time to time. Scott -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-bounces@**oki**ebenz.com http://okiebenz.com mercedes-bounces@**okiebenz.com mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of G Mann Sent: Saturday, August 24, 2013 1:53 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Jabba parts ban Trent, We have never met, I've never bought a part from you. I'm a member of this group however and own more than one Mercedes, thus my request to you, and you alone. Either by a One on One email, or by a email to the group, your choice, give me a clear and concise replay of what ever chain of events happened from the time Rusty and you exchanged ownership of the parts business to the present moment. Just ONE time I want the facts, only the facts. No bullshit, no he said/she said, no you hurt my feelings or I'm owed money or parts. Cut to the straight story. ONE TIME. If you do that, instead of the tiny little snip fights, you will gain respect from me, and perhaps others. If you don't, might as well pack your shit and leave. Any questions? Grant... On Sat, Aug 24, 2013 at 10:40 AM, Buymbparts buymbpa...@gmail.com wrote: I didn't say that. Sent from my iPhone On Aug 24, 2013, at 12:18 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net wrote: So jabba took parts orders, never shipped the parts and never refunded the money? Hmm Sent from my iPhone On Aug 24, 2013, at 12:13 PM, Buymbparts buymbpa...@gmail.com wrote: Jabba, I am dealing with the mess from your past also, I'm not here to play the game or cut anybody down, I'm being blamed for your crap as well. I don't know, and really don't care about you and rusty's feud. I am coming back, my accounts is not your business. If I would happen to have a problem with an account, it's because of the past. Not my past. Sent from my iPhone On Aug 24, 2013, at 11:04 AM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote: it's not down but it looks as if he just is waiting to get
Re: [MBZ] OT Louie Louie
yeah, it's the translation of hte story into english (well, english and spanish here as there is a large non english speaking population) that would make it work universally. they are good stories that should captivate most any watcher On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 12:56 PM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: We were benefactors of the Florentine Opera when we lived in Wisconsin. A great opera company that does a nice mix of traditional and modern operas every season. As benefactors we got invited to all sorts of social things which often included the performers. It was at these that I got to hobnob with the likes of people such as Sherril Milnes. It was pretty cool to talk to well known operatic performers like him on such a personal level. One of the things I liked best were the backstage talks they would do after a performance. They went a long way in helping to better understand the characters and plot of the opera, especially if it was one you were unfamiliar with. I think too many people both present and perceive opera as a snooty upper crust sort of entertainment, something that you have to be intelligent and well bred to enjoy. It's too bad, as we would on occasion take friends with us, especially ones who had never been, and they always came away amazed at how much they enjoyed it. One nice thing was the use of supertitles so the audience could follow the performance and understand the dialogue. Dan Sent from my iPad On Aug 25, 2013, at 10:16 AM, Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: Most opera singers are over the top personalities, outgoing and friendly. A couple weeks before he died on stage Leonard Warren was chatting happily with the boys. Great guy, great loss. He and Richard Tucker were inseparable. I also remember Georgio Tozzi and Cesare Siepi. Love those basso profundo voices. Funny thing about memories. I can still recite from memory the entire scene with the children and the madman from Boris Godunov. On Sun, Aug 25, 2013 at 8:28 AM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: I have hung out with Sherril Milnes on a couple of occasions. Nice guy, very gracious. Dan who likes Puccini and Verdi On Aug 25, 2013, at 3:15 AM, Gerry Archer wrote: That's remarkable! A Met opera performer on the Mercedes List! A blind, music loving friend has a classical music list. With your permission, I'd like to post this on her list. (Last year?) we saw Natalie Dessay in the title role of Lucia Di Lammermoor on closed circuit. We were anxious to hear her do the Mad Scene and compare it to Joan Sutherlands which we considered the all time peak performance. She didn't do it, but it was probably forgiveable since she was doing something like 6 or 7 performances per week and we doubted that anyone could do a decent Mad Scene that often. When Sutherland did it, you could barely tell her voice from the (flute? piccolo?). Gerry..Okay, okay, I'll shut up about music and get back to Mercedes. [:o) From: Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com I sang in the Met Opera boys' chorus from 7 until my voice changed (11, IIRC). I also had a couple solo roles, one of which included a curtain call as Gherardino in Puccini's one act opera Gianni Schicchi (usually paired with Salome in a double bill). I lost interest in opera until recently. Last show attended was a the Washington Opera performance of Manon Lescaut. On Sat, Aug 24, 2013 at 8:30 PM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote: Yep, they're mighty fine, too. Wilton - Original Message - From: Gerry Archer arche...@embarqmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Saturday, August 24, 2013 8:00 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Louie Louie I liked symphonies as a young person, especially those with a principal performer; Jascha Heifetz, for example. Later preferred opera, and currently prefer vocal performers such as Dimitri Hvorostovsky, Elina Garanca, etc: http://www.youtube.com/watch?**v=OmPI2WNuUzE http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OmPI2WNuUzE http://www.youtube.com/watch?**v=aakfkGBh-fM http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aakfkGBh-fM Gerry Yep; fantastic! A bit late, but very welcomed. Thanks. Wilton - Original Message - From: Gerry Archer arche...@embarqmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Saturday, August 24, 2013 7:20 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Louie Louie http://www.youtube.com/watch?**v=_-mvutiDRvQ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_-mvutiDRvQ Is there an icon on that page we can click right now to hear some symphony? 'Probably good for all of us. ;)) Wilton - Original Message - From: Gerry Archer arche...@embarqmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Saturday, August 24, 2013 6:42 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Louie Louie Beethovens 9th is
Re: [MBZ] OT: Amazon.com!
On Sat, 10 Aug 2013 00:08:21 -0400 Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: Craig wrote: The hard disk drive in one of our computers has been acting up. I was looking at a replacement. Yesterday, it was $62.99. Today it's $81.24! Do they vary their prices according to the day of the week? Yep, they play games with prices like you wouldn't believe. There's even a web page dedicated to storing Amazon price history, you can have it send you an email when a target price is reached: http://camelcamelcamel.com/ I went to this website and found that the hard disk I recently purchased is selling for $47, about $13 less than I paid for it. (Didn't check free shipping, though.) This website says you don't have to sign up and that there is a price versus time graph for each product, but it's a little non-obvious to find. The one for the disk I purchased is attached. BTW, is this a good router for $20? http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16833156249 Going to that page shows the pricing is now $45.99 and looking at the ratings shows an overall rating of three eggs with specifics of: Five eggs 40% (151) Four eggs 13% (48) Three eggs 12% (45) Two eggs15% (58) One egg 21% (78) Looking at the ratings this year gives Five eggs 110% Four eggs 110% Three eggs 4 with 4 Mfgr responses, 40% Two eggs1 with Mfgr response 10% One egg 2 with 2 Mfgr responses, 30% 1 with no Mfgr response Going to that page shows a new version is available at http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16833156454, with a price of $49.99 and two ratings of 5 eggs each. Searching for wireless router dd-wrt and sorting by price gives http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16833166064 Rosewill RNX-N150RT Wireless Router, DD-WRT Open Source Support IEEE 802.3/3u, IEEE 802.11b/g, IEEE802.11n Draft 2 Up to 150Mbps Wireless Data Rates 1 x 10/100M WAN; 4 x 10/100 LAN $19.99 Four eggs overall with 269 reviews http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16833156422 TRENDnet TEW-712BR N150 Wireless Router IEEE 802.3/3u, DD-WRT Open Source support, IEEE 802.11b/g/n $21.99 Three eggs overall with 30 reviews If you want good ratings, http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16833124190 Linksys WRT54GL Wireless Broadband Router 802.11b/g up to 54Mbps/ Compatible with Open Source DD-WRT (not pre-load) $47.99 Five eggs overall with 3,875 reviews Craig attachment: Hard.disk.price.vs.time.png___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 108
My 2.8 L FI pagoda is quite powerful and quite thirsty! Sent from my iPhone On Aug 29, 2013, at 10:35 AM, Jaime Kopchinski jaime...@gmail.com wrote: I've owned both and like the feel of the 6 cylinder cars over the v8s. A nice running M130 in a 280SE/L is quite powerful. Jaime On Wednesday, August 28, 2013, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: When speaking of 108s, is the 6 cylinder or v8 better suited to that body? I think I would rather have a v8 if I was getting one but the 6 would probably be easier to work on and not as front heavy. Just got to thinking about this and wondered what some of you 108 people thought. Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Jaime Kopchinski http://www.jaimekop.com/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 108
I guess I don't understand this, are you suggesting that the 4.5 wasn't very fuel hungry with its mid-high teens fuel economy? -Curt Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2013 17:19:53 -0500 From: Peter Frederick psf...@earthlink.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] 108 Message-ID: 3026a085-7de8-443d-ac6c-81eb903a0...@earthlink.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes My 280SE 4.5 got 17 mpg on the highway, and really wanted to run at 90 and up Enormous power out of the 4.5L, much more (and at much lower rpm) than the sixes, which were screaming at highway speed and as a result very fuel hungry (upper teens to very low 20's mpg). Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Jabba parts ban
On Aug 29, 2013, at 6:22 PM, Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: This conversation needs to be taken off line. You just responded to an email that was five days old. AND you didn't TRIM YOUR POST! :-D Rick Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT power line ethernet
Can you run Cat 5 to the downstairs and install another WiFi box? On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 3:58 PM, Larry T l02tur...@comcast.net wrote: Thanks Scott - Is there any easy way to extend the rangeof my wifi - I' like to use my laptop downstairs at times... LarryT On 8/28/2013 5:06 PM, Scott Ritchey wrote: A repeater will cut your effective bandwidth in half or worse. -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-bounces@**okiebenz.commercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Larry T Sent: Wednesday, August 28, 2013 1:39 PM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT power line ethernet speaking of the internet ;-) I am considering a wifi repeater -- anyone have good/bad recommendations? Thanks LarryT 91 300D On 8/28/2013 10:02 AM, Craig wrote: On Wed, 28 Aug 2013 08:16:44 -0400 Gerry Archer arche...@embarqmail.com wrote: If the circuits aren't listed, you can run a long wire (I've used a series of extension cords) between the two distant receptacles and check the voltage. If the voltage is 110v it's the same leg; if the voltage is 220v the receptacles are not on the same leg. That should read, If the circuits aren't listed, you can run a long wire (I've used a series of extension cords) between the two distant receptacles. Then measure the voltage between the two hot terminals. If the voltage is zero, it's the same leg; if the voltage is 220 VAC, the receptacles are not on the same leg. Craig __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- OK Don They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. - Benjamin Franklin 1775 in this world nothing can be said to be certain, except death and taxes. - Benjamin Franklin 1789 2013 F150, 19 mpg 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 45 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Brake fiasco
When I did rear pads/rotors/calipers on my '84 190D recently I used parts from Car Quest. One thing I noticed about the pads was that the edges weren't beveled but were squared off. I seem to remember the fronts I put on were beveled but I haven't checked. These squared off ones squealed a bit for the first hundred or so miles. I'll ask the obvious question, you did put caliper grease on the pads right? I've heard various opinions about how much to use, I slather the stuff on. First time I did pads I bought a big bottle of caliper grease. The parts guy tried to talk me into a little tube of the stuff but I went for the big jobbie, haven't regretted it in the 3 brake jobs I've done. -Curt Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2013 18:33:09 -0400 From: dsereta...@yahoo.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] Brake fiasco Message-ID: 0ca0081e-761f-45b2-9e8d-8b83e0447...@yahoo.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I finally finished the complete front brake job on the 240D today, but...it's still not braking quite right. On the highway, with hard braking, I get a pulsation. There is also quite a bit of squealing. Here's what I did good and bad: Good: I used genuine MB flexible hoses, grease seals, bearing grease, left front bearing set, left front steel brake line. I used scale to measure grease and dial indicator to set bearings. Bad: I used remanufactured calipers, duralast pads and duralast rotors. I did this in the interest of time. I should have been more patient and ordered the good stuff from Gary! I also did not torque the lug nuts but I did use the wimpy factory lug wrench which can't realistically apply too much torque. I also didn't step on it to tighten! I've never had an issue with this approach so I doubt that I warped the rotors but you never know. What could be going on? Literally everything was replaced! Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] 87 300D cruise control
Another chance to excel - where in the 87 MB 300D Service Manual CD is the cruise control amp? I KNOW where it is in the car; I wanta know where it is in DA BOOK/MANUAL. Wilt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 108
It's almost twice as big and gets about the same milage -- 3.23 gears instead of 3.88, uses less fuel. I suspect at 4.5 can be safely tuned to get around 18 on the highway if you use only premium. No comparison in terms of power, the 4.5 is a real beast. Factory specs are 9.5 sec 0-60, and most of that is on the fast end. It's actually a pain to drive on the open road, it keeps wanting to go faster and it's necessary to keep lifting your foot to stay near the speed limit. Top speed is 125 for the 4.5 and 118 for the sixes, although if you are brave you can push them faster. You will wear the cylinders out pretty fast if you do (as in a couple runs). Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Jabba parts ban
Sic 'em Rover! Sic 'em! Wilton - Original Message - From: Rick Knoble rickkno...@hotmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2013 7:41 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Jabba parts ban On Aug 29, 2013, at 6:22 PM, Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: This conversation needs to be taken off line. You just responded to an email that was five days old. AND you didn't TRIM YOUR POST! :-D Rick Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Brake fiasco
On Aug 29, 2013, at 5:33 PM, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: What could be going on? Literally everything was replaced! I responded twice and the emails disappeared. Hmmm. Intercepted by the NSA ??? Anyway, did you bed the pads? Perhaps the rotors are inferior? Here is more than you want to know about the causes of brake judder. Thanks to Philip. http://www.stoptech.com/technical-support/technical-white-papers/-warped-brake-disc-and-other-myths Rick Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Jabba parts ban
Plenty of automatic post trimmers on Google. Kaleb should hook one up to his server. https://www.google.com/#q=automatic+post+trimmer Sic 'em Rover! Sic 'em! Wilton - Original Message - From: Rick Knoble rickkno...@hotmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2013 7:41 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Jabba parts ban On Aug 29, 2013, at 6:22 PM, Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: This conversation needs to be taken off line. You just responded to an email that was five days old. AND you didn't TRIM YOUR POST! :-D Rick Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.2242 / Virus Database: 3211/6121 - Release Date: 08/29/13 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 108
Yes the 4.5 is quite the beast. My brother had a 280SE 4.5 and shit that thing was fast! Can even imagine what a 6.3 would be like. Sent from my iPhone On Aug 29, 2013, at 7:49 PM, Peter Frederick psf...@earthlink.net wrote: It's almost twice as big and gets about the same milage -- 3.23 gears instead of 3.88, uses less fuel. I suspect at 4.5 can be safely tuned to get around 18 on the highway if you use only premium. No comparison in terms of power, the 4.5 is a real beast. Factory specs are 9.5 sec 0-60, and most of that is on the fast end. It's actually a pain to drive on the open road, it keeps wanting to go faster and it's necessary to keep lifting your foot to stay near the speed limit. Top speed is 125 for the 4.5 and 118 for the sixes, although if you are brave you can push them faster. You will wear the cylinders out pretty fast if you do (as in a couple runs). Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Brake fiasco
Yes I used the CRC red caliper grease. I didn't slather it on though. I initially liked the stuff but I've noticed that it dries to a rubbery goo unlike the Mercedes like stuff that comes in the little packages. Sent from my iPhone On Aug 29, 2013, at 7:44 PM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: When I did rear pads/rotors/calipers on my '84 190D recently I used parts from Car Quest. One thing I noticed about the pads was that the edges weren't beveled but were squared off. I seem to remember the fronts I put on were beveled but I haven't checked. These squared off ones squealed a bit for the first hundred or so miles. I'll ask the obvious question, you did put caliper grease on the pads right? I've heard various opinions about how much to use, I slather the stuff on. First time I did pads I bought a big bottle of caliper grease. The parts guy tried to talk me into a little tube of the stuff but I went for the big jobbie, haven't regretted it in the 3 brake jobs I've done. -Curt Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2013 18:33:09 -0400 From: dsereta...@yahoo.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] Brake fiasco Message-ID: 0ca0081e-761f-45b2-9e8d-8b83e0447...@yahoo.com Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii I finally finished the complete front brake job on the 240D today, but...it's still not braking quite right. On the highway, with hard braking, I get a pulsation. There is also quite a bit of squealing. Here's what I did good and bad: Good: I used genuine MB flexible hoses, grease seals, bearing grease, left front bearing set, left front steel brake line. I used scale to measure grease and dial indicator to set bearings. Bad: I used remanufactured calipers, duralast pads and duralast rotors. I did this in the interest of time. I should have been more patient and ordered the good stuff from Gary! I also did not torque the lug nuts but I did use the wimpy factory lug wrench which can't realistically apply too much torque. I also didn't step on it to tighten! I've never had an issue with this approach so I doubt that I warped the rotors but you never know. What could be going on? Literally everything was replaced! Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Brake fiasco
Not sure if I know anymore what bedding pads means. I initially heard that you should ease on the brakes but then that you should brake hard. Not being sure which approach to take I did do some hard abrupt braking though on the test drive. The rotors may very well be inferior. They are made in China Duralasts. Can I check for warpage using a dial indicator to measure runout. Is there a specific way to do that? What are the measurements? Sent from my iPhone On Aug 29, 2013, at 7:50 PM, Rick Knoble rickkno...@hotmail.com wrote: On Aug 29, 2013, at 5:33 PM, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: What could be going on? Literally everything was replaced! I responded twice and the emails disappeared. Hmmm. Intercepted by the NSA ??? Anyway, did you bed the pads? Perhaps the rotors are inferior? Here is more than you want to know about the causes of brake judder. Thanks to Philip. http://www.stoptech.com/technical-support/technical-white-papers/-warped-brake-disc-and-other-myths Rick Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 87 300D cruise control
I found it - Group 30; throttle/cruise control. Wilt - Original Message - From: WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com To: mercedes list mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2013 7:46 PM Subject: [MBZ] 87 300D cruise control Another chance to excel - where in the 87 MB 300D Service Manual CD is the cruise control amp? I KNOW where it is in the car; I wanta know where it is in DA BOOK/MANUAL. Wilt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 87 300D cruise control
From: wilt...@nc.rr.com To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2013 20:35:40 -0400 Subject: Re: [MBZ] 87 300D cruise control I found it - Group 30; throttle/cruise control. ATTABOY! Rick Who wonders why he is calling a military hero old enough to be his dad, boy? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Brake fiasco
I can't remember who makes the stuff I've got, Permatex problem. Its kind of blue/purple. I haven't had to go back and find out what it dries like. My 190D does make a little squeak, I can't tell if its the fronts or the rears. Probably the rears, I need to go back and re-slather. -Curt Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2013 20:17:19 -0400 From: dsereta...@yahoo.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Brake fiasco Message-ID: 96748ef4-3b27-45bf-aaa7-fef390407...@yahoo.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Yes I used the CRC red caliper grease. I didn't slather it on though. I initially liked the stuff but I've noticed that it dries to a rubbery goo unlike the Mercedes like stuff that comes in the little packages. Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Brake fiasco
From: dsereta...@yahoo.com Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2013 20:24:16 -0400 To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Brake fiasco Not sure if I know anymore what bedding pads means. I initially heard that you should ease on the brakes but then that you should brake hard. Not being sure which approach to take I did do some hard abrupt braking though on the test drive. The article goes into great detail about the transference of material from the pads to the rotors, after installing them as new. What most people erroneously believe is a warped rotor is actually a build up of pad material to the rotor, causing the pedal to pulse when braking. Coming to a full stop whilst the brakes are new and hot can cause this. The article also talks about how the composition of the iron changes as it goes through heating and cooling cycles. Really, read the article. It is very informative. http://www.stoptech.com/technical-support/technical-white-papers/-warped-brake-disc-and-other-myths Rick ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 87 300D cruise control
Danke. Wilt - Original Message - From: Rick Knoble rickkno...@hotmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2013 8:48 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 87 300D cruise control From: wilt...@nc.rr.com To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2013 20:35:40 -0400 Subject: Re: [MBZ] 87 300D cruise control I found it - Group 30; throttle/cruise control. ATTABOY! Rick Who wonders why he is calling a military hero old enough to be his dad, boy? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Brake fiasco
From: dsereta...@yahoo.com Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2013 18:33:09 -0400 To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] Brake fiasco What could be going on? Literally everything was replaced! Clipped from the referenced article. The obvious question now is is there a cure for discs with uneven friction material deposits? The answer is a conditional yes. If the vibration has just started, the chances are that the temperature has never reached the point where cementite begins to form. In this case, simply fitting a set of good semi-metallic pads and using them hard (after bedding) may well remove the deposits and restore the system to normal operation but with upgraded pads. If only a small amount of material has been transferred i.e. if the vibration is just starting, vigorous scrubbing with garnet paper may remove the deposit. As many deposits are not visible, scrub the entire friction surfaces thoroughly. Do not use regular sand paper or emery cloth as the aluminum oxide abrasive material will permeate the cast iron surface and make the condition worse. Do not bead blast or sand blast the discs for the same reason. The only fix for extensive uneven deposits involves dismounting the discs and having them Blanchard ground - not expensive, but inconvenient at best. A newly ground disc will require the same sort of bedding in process as a new disc. The trouble with this procedure is that if the grinding does not remove all of the cementite inclusions, as the disc wears the hard cementite will stand proud of the relatively soft disc and the thermal spiral starts over again. Unfortunately, the cementite is invisible to the naked eye. Taking time to properly bed your braking system pays big dividends but, as with most sins, a repeat of the behavior that caused the trouble will bring it right back. Rick ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Bed and Brake fiasco
Bedding in brakes is a process of getting the rotors hot and (for want of a better term) tempering them. Also some of the material from the pads is infused into the rotors, basically this can't be done at the factory (well it could but would add cost). The problem is if you don't bed in your brakes, you may end up with a hard spot on your rotors, this happens because the rotors where not tempered and then when you do have a hard brake situation and stop, the spot where the pads are will be hotter than the rest of the rotor. Basically what you are trying to achieve with the bedding in, is to get the rotors uniformly as hot as they will be likely to get in 99% of driving situations and then let them cool down. Quality rotors will come with instructions on how to bed them in but basically you need to drive as fast as the law will allow and then brake hard without stopping the wheels from turning, this has to be repeated a couple of times to ensure that the rotors get up to maximum operating temperature. One of the things I have read on the net is people saying I never bed my brakes in and I have had no issues well that is lucky and may be that after they fitted their pads and rotors they drove the car in a similar fashion to a proper bedding in procedure, however may well only have got their rotors up to 60% of max temp and due to their driving style, have got away with it. The problem is that if you tempered your rotors to 60% and then get into a situation where the temp of the rotors go up to 100%, you are in effect re-tempering the rotors, which can cause problems. So to sum up, bedding in brakes is the process of getting your rotors up to 100% operating temp and transferring some pad material into the rotors. If you have done it properly you should be able to smell your brakes but make sure not to fully stop the car until the rotors have cooled down, otherwise you could have a hot/hard spot. You need to find a good location to do this, preferably a rural or industrial area with little traffic, obviously going a bit faster will be better than going slower. From memory the recommendation is 80kmh down to 5kmh and then up to 80 and down to 5 again and once more, drive until the rotors have cooled and then repeat (especially if you are bedding in rears) Hendrik who has done a bit of brake bedding On 30/08/13 09:54, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: Not sure if I know anymore what bedding pads means. I initially heard that you should ease on the brakes but then that you should brake hard. Not being sure which approach to take I did do some hard abrupt braking though on the test drive. The rotors may very well be inferior. They are made in China Duralasts. Can I check for warpage using a dial indicator to measure runout. Is there a specific way to do that? What are the measurements? Sent from my iPhone On Aug 29, 2013, at 7:50 PM, Rick Knoble rickkno...@hotmail.com wrote: On Aug 29, 2013, at 5:33 PM, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: What could be going on? Literally everything was replaced! I responded twice and the emails disappeared. Hmmm. Intercepted by the NSA ??? Anyway, did you bed the pads? Perhaps the rotors are inferior? Here is more than you want to know about the causes of brake judder. Thanks to Philip. http://www.stoptech.com/technical-support/technical-white-papers/-warped-brake-disc-and-other-myths Rick ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Brake fiasco
'Don't mean to imply that mine was this same problem - it certainly was not, but I'm reminded of the '81 300D that I bought from a 94-year-old friend in '01. I remembered when he bought the car new and was a bit envious - his ivory 123 looked much better to me than my cactus green 123 (240D). When I bought it from him, the brakes squealed so badly that I thought it was metal on metal. I immediately bought new pads and was ready to purchase discs if necessary. When I removed wheels, though, to replace the pads, I found nearly-showroom pads and discs. I asked him the next day at lunch when he'd had the brakes replaced. He denied any knowledge of having done so, and replied, Aw, I don't ever use the brakes. A few days of my regular driving and maybe even some extra braking cleared up the squealing fairly quickly. Wilton - Original Message - From: Rick Knoble rickkno...@hotmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2013 9:07 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Brake fiasco From: dsereta...@yahoo.com Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2013 18:33:09 -0400 To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] Brake fiasco What could be going on? Literally everything was replaced! Clipped from the referenced article. The obvious question now is is there a cure for discs with uneven friction material deposits? The answer is a conditional yes. If the vibration has just started, the chances are that the temperature has never reached the point where cementite begins to form. In this case, simply fitting a set of good semi-metallic pads and using them hard (after bedding) may well remove the deposits and restore the system to normal operation but with upgraded pads. If only a small amount of material has been transferred i.e. if the vibration is just starting, vigorous scrubbing with garnet paper may remove the deposit. As many deposits are not visible, scrub the entire friction surfaces thoroughly. Do not use regular sand paper or emery cloth as the aluminum oxide abrasive material will permeate the cast iron surface and make the condition worse. Do not bead blast or sand blast the discs for the same reason. The only fix for extensive uneven deposits involves dismounting the discs and having them Blanchard ground - not expensive, but inconvenient at best. A newly ground disc will require the same sort of bedding in process as a new disc. The trouble with this procedure is that if the grinding does not remove all of the cementite inclusions, as the disc wears the hard cementite will stand proud of the relatively soft disc and the thermal spiral starts over again. Unfortunately, the cementite is invisible to the naked eye. Taking time to properly bed your braking system pays big dividends but, as with most sins, a repeat of the behavior that caused the trouble will bring it right back. Rick ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Brake fiasco
'Said discs, meant rotors. Wilton - Original Message - From: WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2013 9:28 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Brake fiasco 'Don't mean to imply that mine was this same problem - it certainly was not, but I'm reminded of the '81 300D that I bought from a 94-year-old friend in '01. I remembered when he bought the car new and was a bit envious - his ivory 123 looked much better to me than my cactus green 123 (240D). When I bought it from him, the brakes squealed so badly that I thought it was metal on metal. I immediately bought new pads and was ready to purchase discs if necessary. When I removed wheels, though, to replace the pads, I found nearly-showroom pads and discs. I asked him the next day at lunch when he'd had the brakes replaced. He denied any knowledge of having done so, and replied, Aw, I don't ever use the brakes. A few days of my regular driving and maybe even some extra braking cleared up the squealing fairly quickly. Wilton - Original Message - From: Rick Knoble rickkno...@hotmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2013 9:07 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Brake fiasco From: dsereta...@yahoo.com Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2013 18:33:09 -0400 To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] Brake fiasco What could be going on? Literally everything was replaced! Clipped from the referenced article. The obvious question now is is there a cure for discs with uneven friction material deposits? The answer is a conditional yes. If the vibration has just started, the chances are that the temperature has never reached the point where cementite begins to form. In this case, simply fitting a set of good semi-metallic pads and using them hard (after bedding) may well remove the deposits and restore the system to normal operation but with upgraded pads. If only a small amount of material has been transferred i.e. if the vibration is just starting, vigorous scrubbing with garnet paper may remove the deposit. As many deposits are not visible, scrub the entire friction surfaces thoroughly. Do not use regular sand paper or emery cloth as the aluminum oxide abrasive material will permeate the cast iron surface and make the condition worse. Do not bead blast or sand blast the discs for the same reason. The only fix for extensive uneven deposits involves dismounting the discs and having them Blanchard ground - not expensive, but inconvenient at best. A newly ground disc will require the same sort of bedding in process as a new disc. The trouble with this procedure is that if the grinding does not remove all of the cementite inclusions, as the disc wears the hard cementite will stand proud of the relatively soft disc and the thermal spiral starts over again. Unfortunately, the cementite is invisible to the naked eye. Taking time to properly bed your braking system pays big dividends but, as with most sins, a repeat of the behavior that caused the trouble will bring it right back. Rick ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Brake fiasco
You must brake in your new breaks! Greg -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of dsereta...@yahoo.com Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2013 3:33 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: [MBZ] Brake fiasco I finally finished the complete front brake job on the 240D today, but...it's still not braking quite right. On the highway, with hard braking, I get a pulsation. There is also quite a bit of squealing. Here's what I did good and bad: Good: I used genuine MB flexible hoses, grease seals, bearing grease, left front bearing set, left front steel brake line. I used scale to measure grease and dial indicator to set bearings. Bad: I used remanufactured calipers, duralast pads and duralast rotors. I did this in the interest of time. I should have been more patient and ordered the good stuff from Gary! I also did not torque the lug nuts but I did use the wimpy factory lug wrench which can't realistically apply too much torque. I also didn't step on it to tighten! I've never had an issue with this approach so I doubt that I warped the rotors but you never know. What could be going on? Literally everything was replaced! Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Bed and Brake fiasco
The real problem is coming to a very hard stop and then holding the brakes on without moving. This permits the carbon in the pad to become incorperated into the iron of the disk, making a hard spot. There is a huge difference between bedding in racing brakes and normal ones. All you need to do with normal brakes is go lightly until the fur on the surface has worn off and the pads conform to the rotor. If you do make a panic stop, DON'T just sit there with the brakes locked up after you stop, ease off and allow the wheels to rotate a bit. Best if you can roll slowly, but it's not always possible. If you can, ease off the pedal and allow the car to roll slowly when coming to a stop, it doesn't take much to get the heat below the critical temperature. Even a panic stop will not heat the whole rotor enough to carburize it, you have to drag the brakes hard at full throttle for a while, even Nascar cars rarely have glowing rotors, if they do they aren't ventilated well enough. If you have to warm up the brakes to get them to work, toss the pads and buy ones that work cold, or expect to rear end people all the time while you wait for your brakes to warm up and work -- they are ALWAYS cold in terms of brakes unless the calipers stick. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Brake fiasco
One way to eliminate the squeak is to stick with OEM pads, as they have the anti-squeal material bonded to the back of the pad. Cheap aftermarkets with plain metal backing plates (no layer of hard plastic on the piston side) will probably squeal no matter what you do, and glueing them to the rotors with Permatex is only going to make them very hard to remove. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Brake fiasco
Good point about the backing on OEM pads. Sent from my iPhone On Aug 29, 2013, at 10:02 PM, Peter Frederick psf...@earthlink.net wrote: One way to eliminate the squeak is to stick with OEM pads, as they have the anti-squeal material bonded to the back of the pad. Cheap aftermarkets with plain metal backing plates (no layer of hard plastic on the piston side) will probably squeal no matter what you do, and glueing them to the rotors with Permatex is only going to make them very hard to remove. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Brake fiasco
I remember reading that article a few years ago and found it very interesting. I will re-read it though to refresh. Sent from my iPhone On Aug 29, 2013, at 8:59 PM, Rick Knoble rickkno...@hotmail.com wrote: From: dsereta...@yahoo.com Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2013 20:24:16 -0400 To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Brake fiasco Not sure if I know anymore what bedding pads means. I initially heard that you should ease on the brakes but then that you should brake hard. Not being sure which approach to take I did do some hard abrupt braking though on the test drive. The article goes into great detail about the transference of material from the pads to the rotors, after installing them as new. What most people erroneously believe is a warped rotor is actually a build up of pad material to the rotor, causing the pedal to pulse when braking. Coming to a full stop whilst the brakes are new and hot can cause this. The article also talks about how the composition of the iron changes as it goes through heating and cooling cycles. Really, read the article. It is very informative. http://www.stoptech.com/technical-support/technical-white-papers/-warped-brake-disc-and-other-myths Rick ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Brake fiasco
Since I usually get 60,000 miles on a set of pads, OEM is fine for me. Thats roughly a set of fronts every three years, rears every six. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Brake fiasco
Brakes on friend's/my 81 300D were OEM; squealed with me a first 'cause he hadn't used 'em. Wilton - Original Message - From: Peter Frederick psf...@earthlink.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2013 10:02 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Brake fiasco One way to eliminate the squeak is to stick with OEM pads, as they have the anti-squeal material bonded to the back of the pad. Cheap aftermarkets with plain metal backing plates (no layer of hard plastic on the piston side) will probably squeal no matter what you do, and glueing them to the rotors with Permatex is only going to make them very hard to remove. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Homebrew BioD
I have about 7000 gal/yr feedstock. Serious question. The oil is N of chicago, but still ill. We could haul it to IA or KS to process, but seems like it may be more practical to process it closer to where it is. We have technical resources available. We might spring for a 50 gal processor, or we can try your homebuilt one.If you have space and time we might trade some oil/fuel for your time/space to process. Do you have space for 4-6 250 gal totes at a time? Loren On Aug 29, 2013, at 4:48 PM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: Anybody in the chicago area that could process 500 gal a month or so of soy oil into BioD? I'd love to, if I could find the feed stock. Is that a rhetorical question? I have the stuff to build a processor in storage. I just haven't bothered, because I am not going to pay yellow grease prices for feedstock. Rick Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Bed and Brake fiasco
On Thu, 29 Aug 2013 21:00:04 -0500 Peter Frederick psf...@earthlink.net wrote: Even a panic stop will not heat the whole rotor enough to carburize it, you have to drag the brakes hard at full throttle for a while, even Nascar cars rarely have glowing rotors, if they do they aren't ventilated well enough. Years ago, I saw a Mercedes magazine. On the cover was a picture of a Mercedes racing car coming thorough a tight turn. You could see the front brake rotors glowing orange through the wheel spokes. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT power line ethernet
This is what I did. The wireless router is at one end of the house with an access point (connected by Cat 5) is at the other end. The really-high bandwidth stuff (like 2 NAS units) is hard wired through a gigabit switch. -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of OK Don Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2013 7:44 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT power line ethernet Can you run Cat 5 to the downstairs and install another WiFi box? On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 3:58 PM, Larry T l02tur...@comcast.net wrote: Thanks Scott - Is there any easy way to extend the rangeof my wifi - I' like to use my laptop downstairs at times... LarryT On 8/28/2013 5:06 PM, Scott Ritchey wrote: A repeater will cut your effective bandwidth in half or worse. -Original Message- ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 108
I owned a 280SE 6 cyl. sedan, several 280SE 3.5 coupes and a 3.5 sedan. They were all awesome and fun to drive. The 3.5s were fast, dependable, and reasonably fuel efficient. The 280Se was my first concours winner. I loved driving at night with the colorful dash lights and slightly growly EFI engine. On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 8:11 PM, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: Yes the 4.5 is quite the beast. My brother had a 280SE 4.5 and shit that thing was fast! Can even imagine what a 6.3 would be like. Sent from my iPhone On Aug 29, 2013, at 7:49 PM, Peter Frederick psf...@earthlink.net wrote: It's almost twice as big and gets about the same milage -- 3.23 gears instead of 3.88, uses less fuel. I suspect at 4.5 can be safely tuned to get around 18 on the highway if you use only premium. No comparison in terms of power, the 4.5 is a real beast. Factory specs are 9.5 sec 0-60, and most of that is on the fast end. It's actually a pain to drive on the open road, it keeps wanting to go faster and it's necessary to keep lifting your foot to stay near the speed limit. Top speed is 125 for the 4.5 and 118 for the sixes, although if you are brave you can push them faster. You will wear the cylinders out pretty fast if you do (as in a couple runs). Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Brake fiasco
my philosophy on brake stuff is really simple. i sell either original compound (textar/pagid or, rarely, jurid) or akebono ceramics. in terms of rotors, i sell only the german stuff, zimmermann and balo, with a strong preference towards the coated versions. back in the day i'd sell ate powerdiscs and brembo too. but since production has been moved to china, i've avoided them as they are charging the same today for chinese blanks finished in china as they used to be for italian blanks finished in europe. i also find cross drilled rotors stupid and never sell them unless someone just flat out insists they MUST have them i wouldn't even sell rebuilt calipers for years but nobody wants to pay for new today. i like a particular california rebuilder best, but i still really prefer new. there is no way around the rebuilts being essentially just used calipers cleaned up and resealed. as for hoses, i've never had an issue either with original/ate oem ones (expensive) or your febi type aftermarket (a lot cheaper). i do push original though as they aren't that much more money when i can get them in OEM ate On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 8:24 PM, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: Not sure if I know anymore what bedding pads means. I initially heard that you should ease on the brakes but then that you should brake hard. Not being sure which approach to take I did do some hard abrupt braking though on the test drive. The rotors may very well be inferior. They are made in China Duralasts. Can I check for warpage using a dial indicator to measure runout. Is there a specific way to do that? What are the measurements? Sent from my iPhone On Aug 29, 2013, at 7:50 PM, Rick Knoble rickkno...@hotmail.com wrote: On Aug 29, 2013, at 5:33 PM, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: What could be going on? Literally everything was replaced! I responded twice and the emails disappeared. Hmmm. Intercepted by the NSA ??? Anyway, did you bed the pads? Perhaps the rotors are inferior? Here is more than you want to know about the causes of brake judder. Thanks to Philip. http://www.stoptech.com/technical-support/technical-white-papers/-warped-brake-disc-and-other-myths Rick Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars * *www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Brake fiasco
two things in life often don't work out well: 1. rushing 2. cheaping out when you do either it generally ends up taking longer and costing more money, but we have moved to a society that values fast and cheap above all. in this case, we learn about rushing. you can't rush anymore as there is a lot of outright crap being sold as people enjoy making 500% margins while offering the lowest price at the same time. (in fact,THIS is the only road to success today, but that is a topic for another time). one simply cannot rush today and expect it to work out with any consistency. and there often isn't even that much of a delay as parts are often delivered in one or two business days. cheaping out is similarly problematic. penoff sent me a customer recently who wanted a deal on a water pump on a W115 300D. i told him that rather than search for a low price on the standard geba pump all the front end sites push, he ought to buy a hepu as those are MUCH better in this application than the mediocre geba and that i'd sell him one for like 10 bucks more than a geba. a few days later he emails to solicit advise as he is having fitment problems with the geba he bought from the low bidder. what did he save by cheaping out? the bottom line is that going and buying a pile of garbage at autohausAZ is not really the best value, sort of like buying shoes at walmart. sometimes it works out but often it does not someone was shocked today to learn that the bucket hat i wear all the time (yeah, i'm a fashion icon) cost over 60 bucks in a world where walmart and the flea market sell bucket hats for under 10 dollars all day long. i didn't care to explain it and just said man, did i get taken! but the reality is that it is hemp watership that has been worn pretty much daily by me for 4 years. it has been washed hundreds of times. it will probably last several years more and odds are the i will lose it before i wear it out. On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 6:33 PM, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: I finally finished the complete front brake job on the 240D today, but...it's still not braking quite right. On the highway, with hard braking, I get a pulsation. There is also quite a bit of squealing. Here's what I did good and bad: Good: I used genuine MB flexible hoses, grease seals, bearing grease, left front bearing set, left front steel brake line. I used scale to measure grease and dial indicator to set bearings. Bad: I used remanufactured calipers, duralast pads and duralast rotors. I did this in the interest of time. I should have been more patient and ordered the good stuff from Gary! I also did not torque the lug nuts but I did use the wimpy factory lug wrench which can't realistically apply too much torque. I also didn't step on it to tighten! I've never had an issue with this approach so I doubt that I warped the rotors but you never know. What could be going on? Literally everything was replaced! Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars * *www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 108
compared to a modern powerful engine, they are all a joke On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 8:11 PM, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: Yes the 4.5 is quite the beast. My brother had a 280SE 4.5 and shit that thing was fast! Can even imagine what a 6.3 would be like. Sent from my iPhone On Aug 29, 2013, at 7:49 PM, Peter Frederick psf...@earthlink.net wrote: It's almost twice as big and gets about the same milage -- 3.23 gears instead of 3.88, uses less fuel. I suspect at 4.5 can be safely tuned to get around 18 on the highway if you use only premium. No comparison in terms of power, the 4.5 is a real beast. Factory specs are 9.5 sec 0-60, and most of that is on the fast end. It's actually a pain to drive on the open road, it keeps wanting to go faster and it's necessary to keep lifting your foot to stay near the speed limit. Top speed is 125 for the 4.5 and 118 for the sixes, although if you are brave you can push them faster. You will wear the cylinders out pretty fast if you do (as in a couple runs). Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars * *www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 108
Off with his head! On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 11:25 PM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote: compared to a modern powerful engine, they are all a joke On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 8:11 PM, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: Yes the 4.5 is quite the beast. My brother had a 280SE 4.5 and shit that thing was fast! Can even imagine what a 6.3 would be like. Sent from my iPhone On Aug 29, 2013, at 7:49 PM, Peter Frederick psf...@earthlink.net wrote: It's almost twice as big and gets about the same milage -- 3.23 gears instead of 3.88, uses less fuel. I suspect at 4.5 can be safely tuned to get around 18 on the highway if you use only premium. No comparison in terms of power, the 4.5 is a real beast. Factory specs are 9.5 sec 0-60, and most of that is on the fast end. It's actually a pain to drive on the open road, it keeps wanting to go faster and it's necessary to keep lifting your foot to stay near the speed limit. Top speed is 125 for the 4.5 and 118 for the sixes, although if you are brave you can push them faster. You will wear the cylinders out pretty fast if you do (as in a couple runs). Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars * *www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 108
i guess it is heresy, but cars are s powerful and fast today which is odd as in much of the USA, driving fast is a thing of the past. gone are the days of getting clocked and triple digit speeds and paying 100 bucks for it On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 11:27 PM, Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.comwrote: Off with his head! On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 11:25 PM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote: compared to a modern powerful engine, they are all a joke On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 8:11 PM, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: Yes the 4.5 is quite the beast. My brother had a 280SE 4.5 and shit that thing was fast! Can even imagine what a 6.3 would be like. Sent from my iPhone On Aug 29, 2013, at 7:49 PM, Peter Frederick psf...@earthlink.net wrote: It's almost twice as big and gets about the same milage -- 3.23 gears instead of 3.88, uses less fuel. I suspect at 4.5 can be safely tuned to get around 18 on the highway if you use only premium. No comparison in terms of power, the 4.5 is a real beast. Factory specs are 9.5 sec 0-60, and most of that is on the fast end. It's actually a pain to drive on the open road, it keeps wanting to go faster and it's necessary to keep lifting your foot to stay near the speed limit. Top speed is 125 for the 4.5 and 118 for the sixes, although if you are brave you can push them faster. You will wear the cylinders out pretty fast if you do (as in a couple runs). Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars * *www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars * *www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Brake fiasco
On Aug 29, 2013, at 10:22 PM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote: and there often isn't even that much of a delay as parts are often delivered in one or two business days. Silly questions, that I would've asked off-list, but are pertinent to all I suppose. One, do you ship from a parts supplier nearest your customer if you can? Do you offer free shipping on orders over xxx dollars? Do you provide a tracking number? Do you provide an email invoice with orders? Thanks, Rick Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] OT: but car related -
For all you closet pilot wannabies, there are these cars --- http://io9.com/is-there-anything-cooler-than-a-car-with-a-giant-propel-1220328894 Shouldn't be too hard to convert an old tired Mercedes :-) -- OK Don They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. - Benjamin Franklin 1775 in this world nothing can be said to be certain, except death and taxes. - Benjamin Franklin 1789 2013 F150, 19 mpg 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 45 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Brake fiasco
Silly questions, that I would've asked off-list, but are pertinent to all I suppose. One, do you ship from a parts supplier nearest your customer if you can? Do you offer free shipping on orders over xxx dollars? Do you provide a tracking number? Do you provide an email invoice with orders? Thanks, Rick Unlike the baseless accusations made on this list, autohaus az does all that, except I am not sure about free shipping over X dollars. That was a perk offered by Rusty. OEM parts are available from autohaus az if you ask for them. NO problems so far. Since Q is no more, we are on our own, and I use several sources like I used to. FLAPS is good for some things, as Curt can attest. Dealers advertising in the Star for OE parts. AZ for the rest. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] OT Bringing back the View Master
Hey all, just wanted to share a little diddy we just launched. No doubt you're familiar with View Masters, the old school slide reel viewers--you probably had some Disney ones years ago... maybe still do. I've partnered up with a guy that used to shoot in stereovision, did all that fancy stuff for Spielberg back in the day... and well in the spirit of adorning the analog, I'm trying to get the new kids hooked back on these things. If you're familiar with Instagram, you know it's the largest photo sharing community on the planet. We simply married the two. Site might still be a little buggy, but enjoy! http://reelagram.com Darren ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Brake fiasco
usually i ship the best parts i can without regard to location. so, for example, i really like those previously mentioned dallas made R4 AC compressors, so i sent mike esh one of those even though i had access to really good air products compressors 200 miles from his home. i did this because he was ok with getting it next week. if he said he needed it today and didn't want to pay some freight, i'd have offered him the air products one out of chicago instead. if, however, all i had available in chicago were the ubiquitous chinese behrs i'd have warned them that those were not the best but would have shipped if he wanted them. i guess there is a lot of communication with the buyer so where it is shipped from is flexible, but generally i recommend quality over speed (but speed is possible for nearly all orders without additional charge with minor sacrifices in quality. i generally will not allow major sacrifices in quality though) i've always done free shipping over $99 but there is flexibility there. sometimes i'll give you partial discounts on shipping or even free shipping under 99. bill wachsmuth spent like 70 bucks on parts yesterday and the actual shipping was 10, but i charged him only 5. but as a general rule expect to pay some freight below 99 dollars and expect to pay none above that figure yes, i email tracking numbers when i know them i email invoices for those who want them. most of my business is conducted in email, so there is a record there and a formal invoice would be redundant. web orders automatically generate invoices. phone orders will nearly always have an invoice emailed so there is a clear record of the transaction. i mean, say you buy an air filter and then your car blows up 3 weeks later without it having been installed. how do i know how much to refund you on a return unless that clear record is created? On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 11:49 PM, Rick Knoble rickkno...@hotmail.comwrote: On Aug 29, 2013, at 10:22 PM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote: and there often isn't even that much of a delay as parts are often delivered in one or two business days. Silly questions, that I would've asked off-list, but are pertinent to all I suppose. One, do you ship from a parts supplier nearest your customer if you can? Do you offer free shipping on orders over xxx dollars? Do you provide a tracking number? Do you provide an email invoice with orders? Thanks, Rick Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars * *www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Bed and Brake and nastycar fiasco
I was going to suggest that nascars don't need brakes, cause they go on oval circuits but apparently they do a few road courses as well. Hendrik who is on a break On 30/08/13 12:09, Craig wrote: On Thu, 29 Aug 2013 21:00:04 -0500 Peter Frederick psf...@earthlink.net wrote: Even a panic stop will not heat the whole rotor enough to carburize it, you have to drag the brakes hard at full throttle for a while, even Nascar cars rarely have glowing rotors, if they do they aren't ventilated well enough. Years ago, I saw a Mercedes magazine. On the cover was a picture of a Mercedes racing car coming thorough a tight turn. You could see the front brake rotors glowing orange through the wheel spokes. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT power line ethernet
Is there any easy way to extend the rangeof my wifi Move the AP so that it's more centrally located; External higher-gain antenna. Directional, if your AP is on an edge or in a corner of your desired service area. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Signal, no noise
We shall see how far working on his car goes. I was ring leader for the past two weeks, but now it devolves to him to make the hard choices. I have the tools and the detailing products. He may or may not avail himself of them. If he shows promise, I may gift him a membership to MBCA for a year. clay On Aug 28, 2013, at 7:31 PM, Craig wrote: On Wed, 28 Aug 2013 17:40:20 -0700 clay redgh...@comcast.net wrote: #1 boy and I will be headed to smokey to get inspection on his 92 300SE in the morning. Then he can get titled and register the beast. AC Blows ice cold. Runs and drives, clean title and interior. Congratulations on getting it back up to snuff. Congratulations on getting #1 boy to work on his car, too. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
