Re: [MBZ] Volt Reading Across Battery

2013-09-17 Thread Bob Rentfro
it's just like the links I sent you. a 7 pin and a 6 pin. I am not ready to spend $300 right now. I want to check around here and also see if Kleberoo may have one lying about. Bob R Have to check VIN when I get home On Mon, Sep 16, 2013 at 10:09 PM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote: i

Re: [MBZ] Volt Reading Across Battery

2013-09-17 Thread Gary Hurst
i get the $300 part. i'm trying to figure out a cheaper alternative. the even scarier part is once those $300 stribels are gone, benz will own all of them and they will be 4 figures i personally liked the preglow time system where you pulled a knob on the dash. but i'd have probably opposed

Re: [MBZ] Volt Reading Across Battery

2013-09-17 Thread Richard Hattaway
Although the relay is involved, you need to revisit the diagnosis. My concern is that having 12+ on the plug and 10+ at the battery says you are creating energy somewhere.  Einstein says this can't happen.  The battery/alternator are the source in the system, everything else is downhill.   Go

Re: [MBZ] HVAC / Mono valve issue. Attn Jim Cathey

2013-09-17 Thread Mike Esh
Thanks Scott, I will give that a try today. Michael E. Esh me...@horizonenv.com michael...@mac.com http://www.yugster.com/invite/138123 (C) 231.286.2344 On Sep 16, 2013, at 09:53 PM, Scott Ritchey ritche...@nc.rr.com wrote: There is a 2-pin connector on the mono valve. One pin is always

Re: [MBZ] Volt Reading Across Battery

2013-09-17 Thread WILTON
ATTABOY! Wilt - Original Message - From: Bob Rentfro azbob...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, September 16, 2013 11:20 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Volt Reading Across Battery Finally figured it out it is the glow plug relay. After I start the

Re: [MBZ] OT: Truck

2013-09-17 Thread MG
Chevy Ford and Dodge are probably less expensive but cost more to feed. Toyota Tacoma 2wd with the offroad TRD wannabe package 16 wheels would probably do what you want also. My wifes 03 with 4cyl has hauled up to 1500 lbs and pulled a 5x8 enclosed utility trailer with full load over the

Re: [MBZ] Volt Reading Across Battery

2013-09-17 Thread Curt Raymond
I have one I think, if I can find it... You could also just wire in a solenoid and a button in the dash. Thats what my 240D has, its pretty handy when its very cold, I can make the car glow as long as I want. -Curt Date: Mon, 16 Sep 2013 20:20:41 -0700 From: Bob Rentfro azbob...@gmail.com

Re: [MBZ] Volt Reading Across Battery

2013-09-17 Thread Rich Thomas
I told you last week to check that -- had the same frustrating ($$$) problem on the 300SD the daughter unit is using, had to pay a shop where she is to finally figure it out, all the same symptoms and approaches. But did you listen --R On 9/16/13 11:20 PM, Bob Rentfro wrote: Finally

Re: [MBZ] Volt Reading Across Battery

2013-09-17 Thread Bob Rentfro
I will probably wire in a switch somehow. If you find a relay, let me know. Thanks, man. Bob R On Sep 17, 2013 6:19 AM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: I have one I think, if I can find it... You could also just wire in a solenoid and a button in the dash. Thats what my 240D has,

Re: [MBZ] Volt Reading Across Battery

2013-09-17 Thread Bob Rentfro
I know. I learn the hard way. Bob R On Sep 17, 2013 6:24 AM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: I told you last week to check that -- had the same frustrating ($$$) problem on the 300SD the daughter unit is using, had to pay a shop where she is to finally figure it out,

Re: [MBZ] Volt Reading Across Battery

2013-09-17 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
$300 for a glow plug relay? Are you kidding? Wtf? Sent from my iPhone On Sep 17, 2013, at 6:23 AM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote: i get the $300 part. i'm trying to figure out a cheaper alternative. the even scarier part is once those $300 stribels are gone, benz will own all of

Re: [MBZ] Volt Reading Across Battery

2013-09-17 Thread Rich Thomas
And suck up lots of our precious bandwidth doing it --R On 9/17/13 9:24 AM, Bob Rentfro wrote: I know. I learn the hard way. Bob R On Sep 17, 2013 6:24 AM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: I told you last week to check that -- had the same frustrating ($$$) problem

Re: [MBZ] OT: Truck

2013-09-17 Thread Rich Thomas
This doesn't belong on this list! --R On 9/16/13 9:01 PM, Jaime Kopchinski wrote: I've decided I want a pick up truck for basic utility. Carrying stuff around, trips to the home disappointment, etc. And towing around my utility trailer. Overall, it would get used pretty rarely and I'd

Re: [MBZ] Volt Reading Across Battery

2013-09-17 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
What year is your car? Sent from my iPhone On Sep 17, 2013, at 8:24 AM, Bob Rentfro azbob...@gmail.com wrote: I will probably wire in a switch somehow. If you find a relay, let me know. Thanks, man. Bob R On Sep 17, 2013 6:19 AM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: I have one I

[MBZ] Fwd: 84 300SD tranny refill

2013-09-17 Thread Rich Thomas
Original Message Subject:84 300SD tranny refill Date: Sun, 15 Sep 2013 19:02:47 -0400 From: Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com It looks like the only way to get at the torque converter is to

[MBZ] Fwd: Dr. Fatty's belts too big

2013-09-17 Thread Rich Thomas
Original Message Subject:Dr. Fatty's belts too big Date: Sun, 15 Sep 2013 19:07:21 -0400 From: Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com I ordered a set of belts from Trent then Dr. Fatty. I

[MBZ] Fwd: Mechanic special,Light engine fire. Will run

2013-09-17 Thread Rich Thomas
Original Message Subject:Mechanic special,Light engine fire. Will run Date: Sun, 15 Sep 2013 12:56:52 -0400 From: Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com I'm sure it'll buff right out

[MBZ] Fwd: HF AC set question

2013-09-17 Thread Rich Thomas
Original Message Subject:HF AC set question Date: Sun, 15 Sep 2013 19:17:21 -0400 From: Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com I was dinking around with the AC on the SD today, was going to put in

Re: [MBZ] Volt Reading Across Battery

2013-09-17 Thread Bob Rentfro
1980 240D On Sep 17, 2013 6:44 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net wrote: What year is your car? Sent from my iPhone On Sep 17, 2013, at 8:24 AM, Bob Rentfro azbob...@gmail.com wrote: I will probably wire in a switch somehow. If you find a relay, let me know. Thanks, man.

Re: [MBZ] Volt Reading Across Battery

2013-09-17 Thread Bob Rentfro
It has a 7 pin connection and a 6 pin connectionand a random white landed next to the fuse. On Sep 17, 2013 6:54 AM, Bob Rentfro azbob...@gmail.com wrote: 1980 240D On Sep 17, 2013 6:44 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net wrote: What year is your car? Sent from my iPhone On

Re: [MBZ] Volt Reading Across Battery

2013-09-17 Thread Bob Rentfro
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Truck for Jamie

2013-09-17 Thread Craig
On Tue, 17 Sep 2013 08:13:23 -0700 (PDT) Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: http://www.frankcoffeyauto.com/1994_Ford_Ford_Milford_NH_174894153.veh Looks good, and the price is right. Google maps says it's 285 miles from Trenton, NJ, 4 hours 52 minutes. Sounds like road trip time. Craig

Re: [MBZ] HVAC / Mono valve issue. Attn Jim Cathey

2013-09-17 Thread Jim Cathey
Could this be the push button unit? Soitenly! The mono valve was rebuilt with a new kit 12 months ago. Is there a test to determine what is not working? Other than what's in the factory manuals, I have my writeups on such things: http://userweb.windwireless.net/~jimc/mamerepairs.html A

Re: [MBZ] Fwd: 84 300SD tranny refill

2013-09-17 Thread Gary Hurst
my answer will not satisfy you but back in the day i used to just put a drain plug on the pan, drop the pan, change the filter and then just dump the fluid out ever few thousand miles for maybe 2 or 3 times. then i'd dump it again every 10 k another 2 times and then ch ange the filter and gasket

Re: [MBZ] Fwd: Mechanic special,Light engine fire. Will run

2013-09-17 Thread Craig
On Tue, 17 Sep 2013 09:47:18 -0400 Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: I'm sure it'll buff right out https://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/4050404265.html Light engine fire, he says. And no pictures of the engine bay Craig ___

Re: [MBZ] OT: Truck

2013-09-17 Thread Randy Bennell
Why not? Vehicle related even if a bit OT as the poster noted to begin with. More on topic than a lot the things we tend to get into on here. Randy On 17/09/2013 8:34 AM, Rich Thomas wrote: This doesn't belong on this list! --R On 9/16/13 9:01 PM, Jaime Kopchinski wrote: I've decided I want

Re: [MBZ] Volt Reading Across Battery

2013-09-17 Thread Gary Hurst
yeah, and it's just going to get worse. your beloved AZ is selling them for 6 and change already and i figure they'll be over a grand in 2 years everywhere. and 800 dollar car with a 1000 dollar glow plug relay? only in benz! On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 9:31 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin

Re: [MBZ] Volt Reading Across Battery

2013-09-17 Thread Gary Hurst
yeah, stop sucking kleb's . hmmm, wrong list :( On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 9:33 AM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: And suck up lots of our precious bandwidth doing it --R On 9/17/13 9:24 AM, Bob Rentfro wrote: I know. I learn the hard way. Bob R On Sep

Re: [MBZ] Wanted: W140 LH Door Latch

2013-09-17 Thread Jim Cathey
Can you disassemble the actual switch? I have fixed microswitches before. Severe burning and melting, not so much, but this isn't a high-powered application. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To

Re: [MBZ] Fwd: HF AC set question

2013-09-17 Thread Craig
On Tue, 17 Sep 2013 09:47:48 -0400 Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: Original Message Subject: HF AC set question Date: Sun, 15 Sep 2013 19:17:21 -0400 From: Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net To: Mercedes

Re: [MBZ] Volt Reading Across Battery

2013-09-17 Thread Jim Cathey
Gonna take a helluva switch to do the 50-80A DC reliably. I'd be opening the GP relay for a look-see, maybe some contact filing and/or resoldering. Also, make _sure_ that the purple line from the ignition switch doesn't bounce up and down, like from a going-out ignition switch, as that'll trip

Re: [MBZ] OT: Truck

2013-09-17 Thread Michael Canfield
Sounds like an easy task gor a good Cummins...lololol Mike On Sep 17, 2013 10:58 AM, Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net wrote: For intermittent, low-mileage use, it doesn't matter how much of a guzzler it is, so just about _any_ domestic truck will probably be the best value. If it looks

Re: [MBZ] OT: Truck

2013-09-17 Thread Randy Bennell
2001-2003 F150 Supercrew. Probably not for under $3K but the extra money will be worth it. Has a full back seat and 4 doors. Once you have it you will realize it is like driving a car and will use it more than you think you will. Nice to have the passenger space available. Short box but I have

Re: [MBZ] OT: Truck for Jamie

2013-09-17 Thread Michael Canfield
Miles are high for a v8 Ford. Not a great deal. Look further south for less rust. A 3/4 ton with a diesel will get better mpg and haul way more. Early idi models get near 20mpg and have plenty enough power. That truck will get around 12. Older Chevy diesels, 6.2 etc., get great mpg and last

Re: [MBZ] Volt Reading Across Battery

2013-09-17 Thread Mitch Haley
Jim Cathey wrote: You could try starting the car and then disconnecting the _little_ GPR plug, see if that makes a difference. If the problem goes away, then it might not be the relay's fault at all. Good point. If the signal wire (purple?) is intermittent, the relay would properly keep

Re: [MBZ] Fwd: Dr. Fatty's belts too big

2013-09-17 Thread Gary Hurst
hard to imagine any belt as being too big for me! even thought the manual says 10x1035, 10x1000 is a correct original spec for later engines. my thought is you are correctly 10x1000 from the factory only the documentation has us thinking 10x1035. i can thave a pair of 10x1000 thrown in the

Re: [MBZ] Fwd: HF AC set question

2013-09-17 Thread Jim Cathey
I presume the yellow filler hose will fit a can of refrigerant Not directly. There's a can fitting with a valve on it, usually. Anyway, the gauges have a set of valves and fittings that go out the bottom, I presume these are for a recovery system. Those bottom 'fittings' are usually

Re: [MBZ] Dr. Fatty's belts too big

2013-09-17 Thread Curt Raymond
A few years ago I ordered an alternator belt for my '83 240D, the one Rusty sent was too big.  I took it over to Car Quest and they hooked me up with the right thing. I put the incorrect one up on the shelf. Last April we replaced the head gasket on my '78 240D. In putting it back together I

[MBZ] 1989 F150 Ext. Cab.....Here is a better deal for a gasser that needs work.

2013-09-17 Thread Michael Canfield
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Truck

2013-09-17 Thread Jim Cathey
For intermittent, low-mileage use, it doesn't matter how much of a guzzler it is, so just about _any_ domestic truck will probably be the best value. If it looks attractively small, or foreign, be prepared to pay several times the outlay. For the most 240D-like experience, the Dodge with the

Re: [MBZ] OT: Truck

2013-09-17 Thread Mitch Haley
Jaime Kopchinski wrote: I've decided I want a pick up truck for basic utility. Looking to spend under $3000. Doesn't have to be pretty, but should a basically reliable design. I don't mind doing some work, of course, to make it reliable. A bonus would be something heavy enough to tow a

Re: [MBZ] Wanted: W140 LH Door Latch

2013-09-17 Thread Dan Penoff
I have to pretty much disassemble the door and go through some wrist shredding gyrations a 'la 108/114 heater blower motor replacement to get at it. I don't want to do it without having a contingency plan..., Dan On Sep 17, 2013, at 10:49 AM, Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net wrote: Can you

Re: [MBZ] OT: Truck for Jamie

2013-09-17 Thread Curt Raymond
He's gonna pay 2-3x for a diesel and it'll have added maintenance costs. Its not like he's going to commute with it. For trips to the home center or the dump or to retrieve a car a cheap gasser makes more sense than a diesel. If he was gonna do long road trips sure... -Curt Date: Tue, 17 Sep

Re: [MBZ] Fwd: Dr. Fatty's belts too big

2013-09-17 Thread Rich Thomas
No, that's fine, the ones on the car were pretty decent. Next time I order stuff I might get some, or see if these will fit the other 84 SD. --R On 9/17/13 12:03 PM, Gary Hurst wrote: hard to imagine any belt as being too big for me! even thought the manual says 10x1035, 10x1000 is a

Re: [MBZ] OT: Truck for Jamie

2013-09-17 Thread Gary Hurst
i'd agree with curt here. the love of diesel is nice and all but diesel isn't always an answer but the reality is jaime just wants another toy. for as often as he needs to use a truck, he can just rent one and be WAY ahead in overall costs i used to drive a very nice 94 E420, but the head

Re: [MBZ] Volt Reading Across Battery

2013-09-17 Thread Curt Raymond
Ford starter solenoid. Remember to make the cables to the glowplugs big. When I first got mine they were real small, I forget exactly, 16ga maybe. Surprisingly they didn't just burn up but you had to glow a looong time. I rebuilt with 10ga (I think) which is the biggest my crimper would

Re: [MBZ] OT: Truck

2013-09-17 Thread Mitch Haley
Curt Raymond wrote: 2wd I presume. $3k buys almost nothing in a 4wd truck right now. That's why I have a $3000 S210 4Matic in the driveway. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or

Re: [MBZ] OT: Truck

2013-09-17 Thread Dan Penoff
Some guy in South Africa just posted some pictures of a Finnie pickup conversion on Benzworld. Looked like a Universal wagon that got chopped. Dan On Sep 17, 2013, at 12:56 PM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: Jaime Kopchinski wrote: I've decided I want a pick up truck for basic

[MBZ] Ford F250 powerstroke 7.3 5SPEED!.....Cheap diesel for $2k

2013-09-17 Thread Michael Canfield
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[MBZ] OT: Truck for Jamie

2013-09-17 Thread Curt Raymond
http://www.frankcoffeyauto.com/1994_Ford_Ford_Milford_NH_174894153.veh No affiliation etc.  -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:

[MBZ] a sad story i was just told

2013-09-17 Thread Gary Hurst
someone ordered a hard top seal and all i'm finding is apa/uro so i'm trying to find something else and got this reply regarding alternatives: OE WHICH IS URO REBOXED sad days :( -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars * *www.BuyEUROparts.com*

Re: [MBZ] OT: Truck for Jamie

2013-09-17 Thread Michael Canfield
I have to question the added maintenance costs. Really? My old idi's just go on and on with minimal maint. My friends with gassers that sit a lot are always fiddling with plug wires or stale gas to get them going for an occasional mission. I just go out and give the old 6.2 a crank, let the

Re: [MBZ] a sad story i was just told

2013-09-17 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
So oe is now uro? Well I guess you might as well retire or start up a boiler room. Sent from my iPhone On Sep 17, 2013, at 2:06 PM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote: someone ordered a hard top seal and all i'm finding is apa/uro so i'm trying to find something else and got this reply

Re: [MBZ] a sad story i was just told

2013-09-17 Thread Gary Hurst
not in general, but, yes, in this one instance, if you give your benz dealer 150 dollars for a genuine seal, he will give you a reboxed URO On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 4:32 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.netwrote: So oe is now uro? Well I guess you might as well retire or start up a boiler

Re: [MBZ] OT: Truck for Jamie

2013-09-17 Thread Curt Raymond
With the Ford don't you give up a lot of the fuel economy reason for having one? With a 6.2 you certainly don't have the power you'd get with a 5.7 gasser... Lets not count out a Dakota either. My '96 had 222,000 miles when I got rid of it, it was big enough to haul a small car (actually it

Re: [MBZ] OT: Truck for Jamie

2013-09-17 Thread WILTON
'Used the Ford trailer with MB 123 wheel covers and three-pointed star on the tailgate today; noticed right tire pressure low and cracking with age; probably time for newer tires on it. These are probably only 10 - 12 years old. Wilton - Original Message - From: Curt Raymond

Re: [MBZ] OT: Truck for Jamie

2013-09-17 Thread Gary Hurst
fine, diminish he who might point out the emperor has no clothes On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 6:05 PM, Jaime Kopchinski jaime...@gmail.comwrote: Reality is that Gary doesn't know what I'm looking for! Lots of good points being made here (other than Gary's), so thanks for the input. A diesel

Re: [MBZ] a sad story i was just told

2013-09-17 Thread Jaime Kopchinski
Get me a part number and I'll get to the bottom of this. Jaime On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 3:06 PM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote: someone ordered a hard top seal and all i'm finding is apa/uro so i'm trying to find something else and got this reply regarding alternatives: OE WHICH

Re: [MBZ] OT: Truck for Jamie

2013-09-17 Thread Richard Hattaway
I have a 2001 F-250.  Got it new, love it.  Diesel was 4K$ more at the time, and it just wasn't worth it, even though fuel was cheaper then.  If you tow all the time for a living, then a diesel is a good thing.  If you're buying a utility truck to go to the lake, pick up lawn stuff, and in

Re: [MBZ] a sad story i was just told

2013-09-17 Thread Randy Bennell
On 17/09/2013 4:53 PM, Gary Hurst wrote: it's hard to get. most f these cars aren't used much so maybe you can last out the warranty. also, wehn you sell it for 30 to 50 times what you paid for it, you have a lot of room for warranty work Maybe but no one likes warranty work. Randy

Re: [MBZ] a sad story i was just told

2013-09-17 Thread WILTON
'Pushing me closer to a Passat TDI. 'Haven't really driven one yet; don't care to listen to sales BS. 'May hafta get former DIL to let me drive hers if she'll let me maneuver the seat to a more forward and upright position. Wilton - Original Message - From: Gary Hurst

Re: [MBZ] a sad story i was just told

2013-09-17 Thread Gary Hurst
it's hard to get. most f these cars aren't used much so maybe you can last out the warranty. also, wehn you sell it for 30 to 50 times what you paid for it, you have a lot of room for warranty work On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 5:50 PM, Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca wrote: Ooooh! But it will

Re: [MBZ] a sad story i was just told

2013-09-17 Thread Randy Bennell
Ooooh! But it will come in a nice MB box with the star logo. On a serious note, one would think that MB may soon realize that it is not a good deal to sell junk that they will have to warranty. Randy On 17/09/2013 3:39 PM, Gary Hurst wrote: not in general, but, yes, in this one instance, if

Re: [MBZ] OT: Truck for Jamie

2013-09-17 Thread Jaime Kopchinski
Reality is that Gary doesn't know what I'm looking for! Lots of good points being made here (other than Gary's), so thanks for the input. A diesel isn't out of the question, but I'd like to avoid having to a steep learning curve with something completely new. A gas 350, or example, is something

Re: [MBZ] OT: Truck for Jamie

2013-09-17 Thread Curt Raymond
I rented a pickup a couple months ago to tow my 240D home. I paid around $150 for 24 hours for a Chevy extended cab v6 4wd which as Gary says really isn't that bad at all. I towed a car (carefully!) and returned the truck with them none the wiser. That was me just walking in off the street, I'm

Re: [MBZ] a sad story i was just told

2013-09-17 Thread Gary Hurst
GM used to warrant stuff for 12,000 miles knowing it would fail at 18 to 24. junk just has to outlast he warranty in most of the cases i'm thinking the koreans are the future On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 5:54 PM, Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca wrote: On 17/09/2013 4:53 PM, Gary Hurst wrote:

[MBZ] Fw: 1967 Mercedes 250-S Project Car - $995 (East Bridgewater, Ma)

2013-09-17 Thread Frederick Moir
Not mine, etc.   Fred Moir Lynn MA Diesel preferred. - Forwarded Message - From: fred.s...@verizon.net fred.s...@verizon.net To: fredy4.s...@yahoo.com Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2013 6:15 PM Subject: 1967 Mercedes 250-S Project Car - $995 (East Bridgewater, Ma)

Re: [MBZ] OT: Truck for Jamie

2013-09-17 Thread Curt Raymond
So far north of gas? I got my aunt with this the other day, they have a diesel Passat and a gasser Volvo. We talked it out and if you aim low on the Passat and say 40mpg and say 30mpg on the Volvo which is probably slightly optimistic that gives the Passat a 33% advantage right? If gas is

Re: [MBZ] OT: Truck for Jamie

2013-09-17 Thread Michael Canfield
My 6.2 has just as much power as a 350 gasser and gets better mpg. It hauls my crewcab with 10k pound trailer and a fullsize pickup just fine. A 350 would be working hard and getting worse mpg. Yeah, you sort of give up economy. Until you look at how much fuel a gasser that will pull like a

Re: [MBZ] OT watering deep

2013-09-17 Thread Benz Hogs
Two quotes below. Re: soil swelling. I wouldn't expect the swelling to last long, only as long as the water stays in the location you need the swelling. Then, due to the soil type, the soil may compact *more* than it was before, compounding your issue. Be very careful with adding water to

Re: [MBZ] OT: Truck for Jamie

2013-09-17 Thread Mitch Haley
Jaime Kopchinski wrote: But this is more realistic: http://newjersey.craigslist.org/cto/4050953148.html How many miles has it been since the intake was hooked up to a functioning air filter? My Horizon had a KN in it from about 30k mi. It was running OK when I parked it at 232k mi, but by

Re: [MBZ] a sad story i was just told

2013-09-17 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On Sep 17, 2013 1:40 PM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote: not in general, but, yes, in this one instance, if you give your benz dealer 150 dollars for a genuine seal, he will give you a reboxed URO I'm not the least bit surprised. New Benz's are probably full of Chinese-made parts.

Re: [MBZ] a sad story i was just told

2013-09-17 Thread Mitch Haley
Alex Chamberlain wrote: On Sep 17, 2013 1:40 PM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote: not in general, but, yes, in this one instance, if you give your benz dealer 150 dollars for a genuine seal, he will give you a reboxed URO I'm not the least bit surprised. New Benz's are probably full

[MBZ] Wiring a Switch in the Glow plug Relay

2013-09-17 Thread Bob Rentfro
Someone mentioned yesterday that I could keep my car on the road by simply removing the fuse from the glowplug relay after each start and then reinstalling the fuse when it was time to start the car. Someone else mentioned about the wiring in a switch of some sort. How in the world would I do

Re: [MBZ] OT: Truck for Jamie

2013-09-17 Thread Jaime Kopchinski
This is kinda cool: http://newjersey.craigslist.org/cto/4062231342.html On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 6:40 PM, Michael Canfield slozuk...@gmail.comwrote: My 6.2 has just as much power as a 350 gasser and gets better mpg. It hauls my crewcab with 10k pound trailer and a fullsize pickup just fine.

Re: [MBZ] OT: Truck for Jamiey

2013-09-17 Thread Richard Hattaway
True, but we're talking about Ford F-250's.  There is not a significant mileage difference between the gas and the diesel versions.  Mine gets 14 towing the boat, 15 on the road.  A diesel gets 20. I was going to be out $4K up front.   Maintenance on an F-250 Diesel is very expensive.  At the

Re: [MBZ] OT: Truck for Jamie

2013-09-17 Thread Jaime Kopchinski
But this is more realistic: http://newjersey.craigslist.org/cto/4050953148.html On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 6:49 PM, Jaime Kopchinski jaime...@gmail.comwrote: This is kinda cool: http://newjersey.craigslist.org/cto/4062231342.html On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 6:40 PM, Michael Canfield

Re: [MBZ] a sad story i was just told

2013-09-17 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On Sep 17, 2013 4:25 PM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: The rules for a Swiss watch movement allow you to use a $2 Chinese movement with $2.50 worth of Swiss made springs in it. Is that why the Stauer and Daniel Steiger watches with the big ads in the car magazines are so cheap? Alex

[MBZ] Wiring a Switch in the Glow plug Relay

2013-09-17 Thread Curt Raymond
Actually even easier. My car has a button on the dash, two wires run from it through the firewall, one to the battery, one to a remote starter solenoid which is mounted on the engine side of the firewall pretty much dead center. A big wire runs from the solenoid to the battery. From the

Re: [MBZ] OT: Truck for Jamie

2013-09-17 Thread Craig
On Tue, 17 Sep 2013 18:51:21 -0400 Jaime Kopchinski jaime...@gmail.com wrote: But this is more realistic: http://newjersey.craigslist.org/cto/4050953148.html 1994 Chevy Silverado 1500 with Extended Cab, 8ft Bed w/Bedliner, All power options, 5.7L V8 with Automatic Trans, A/C, KN Intake Tune

Re: [MBZ] Wiring a Switch in the Glow plug Relay

2013-09-17 Thread Greg Fiorentino
How about setting up a manually operated relay in order to avoid heavy gauge wiring to the dash? Greg -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Bob Rentfro Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2013 3:50 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: [MBZ]

Re: [MBZ] OT: Truck

2013-09-17 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
Hahahahahahahahahahaha Sent from my iPhone On Sep 17, 2013, at 11:55 AM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: Jaime Kopchinski wrote: I've decided I want a pick up truck for basic utility. Looking to spend under $3000. Doesn't have to be pretty, but should a basically reliable design. I

Re: [MBZ] OT: Truck for Jamie

2013-09-17 Thread Michael Canfield
Get rid of the stacks and the 72 is a much better investment. Can't get easier to work on. Nowhere near as comfortable or efficient but the coolness factor makes up for that. Mike On Sep 17, 2013 7:52 PM, Craig diese...@pisquared.net wrote: On Tue, 17 Sep 2013 18:51:21 -0400 Jaime Kopchinski

Re: [MBZ] Wiring a Switch in the Glow plug Relay

2013-09-17 Thread Craig
On Tue, 17 Sep 2013 16:55:07 -0700 Greg Fiorentino gf...@dslnorthwest.net wrote: How about setting up a manually operated relay in order to avoid heavy gauge wiring to the dash? That's exactly what Curt just suggested Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] Wiring a Switch in the Glow plug Relay

2013-09-17 Thread Jaime Kopchinski
No matter what you do, you need a fuse in the circuit. Fires start fast with thick wire like that. Jaime On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 6:49 PM, Bob Rentfro azbob...@gmail.com wrote: Someone mentioned yesterday that I could keep my car on the road by simply removing the fuse from the glowplug

Re: [MBZ] OT: Truck for Jamie

2013-09-17 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
Jaime is just trying to be more like me. First he moves to the country (I think), then he needs a lawn tractor. Now he wants a pickup. Next thing you know he will have 80 junk cars in his back yard. Sent from my iPhone On Sep 17, 2013, at 12:49 PM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote: i'd

Re: [MBZ] Wiring a Switch in the Glow plug Relay

2013-09-17 Thread Greg Fiorentino
What I meant was, interrupting the connection at the fuse. Using the relay to act like someone removing the fuse after starting. That avoids all the heavy gauge wiring. Isn't this a possible kludge? Greg -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On

Re: [MBZ] Ford F250 powerstroke 7.3 5SPEED!.....Cheap diesel for $2k

2013-09-17 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
If I were Jaime I would jump on that unless a Chevy diesel or 350 Shows up Sent from my iPhone On Sep 17, 2013, at 2:04 PM, Michael Canfield slozuk...@gmail.com wrote: http://baltimore.craigslist.org/cto/4073041540.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To

Re: [MBZ] a sad story i was just told

2013-09-17 Thread Mitch Haley
Alex Chamberlain wrote: On Sep 17, 2013 4:25 PM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: The rules for a Swiss watch movement allow you to use a $2 Chinese movement with $2.50 worth of Swiss made springs in it. Is that why the Stauer and Daniel Steiger watches with the big ads in the car

Re: [MBZ] OT: Truck for Jamie

2013-09-17 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
If I were in your boat a 350 Chevy is exactly what I would get. That suburban toad had for a long time then I had travelled all over the country hauling cars, it had about 260k and did not use a drop of oil. Sent from my iPhone On Sep 17, 2013, at 5:05 PM, Jaime Kopchinski jaime...@gmail.com

Re: [MBZ] OT: Truck for Jamie

2013-09-17 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
Yep there you go, try to talk then down to about 2500 though. Sent from my iPhone On Sep 17, 2013, at 5:51 PM, Jaime Kopchinski jaime...@gmail.com wrote: But this is more realistic: http://newjersey.craigslist.org/cto/4050953148.html On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 6:49 PM, Jaime Kopchinski

Re: [MBZ] Wiring a Switch in the Glow plug Relay

2013-09-17 Thread Curt Raymond
The heavy wiring is only 10ga. The wiring into the car is quite small, it just has to actuate the relay. -Curt Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2013 17:05:36 -0700 From: Greg Fiorentino gf...@dslnorthwest.net To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Wiring a Switch in the Glow

Re: [MBZ] a sad story i was just told

2013-09-17 Thread Gary Hurst
that's why i'd look to korea. usa cars, all chinese junk. euro cars, soon to be all chinese junk. at least korean cars are korean! to my mind, they are the present and future. although i'm not quite sure what japanese cars are made of. i know my ex wife's honda is from canada but not much

Re: [MBZ] Fw: 1967 Mercedes 250-S Project Car - $995 (East Bridgewater, Ma)

2013-09-17 Thread Andrew Strasfogel
Pretty color, but what do you do with it? On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 6:32 PM, Frederick Moir fredy4.s...@yahoo.comwrote: Not mine, etc. Fred Moir Lynn MA Diesel preferred. - Forwarded Message - From: fred.s...@verizon.net fred.s...@verizon.net To: fredy4.s...@yahoo.com Sent:

Re: [MBZ] OT: Truck for Jamiey

2013-09-17 Thread Andrew Strasfogel
Diesel is cheaper here, believe it or not, at $3.89. Andrew in D.C. On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 7:04 PM, Richard Hattaway rhatta...@rocketmail.comwrote: True, but we're talking about Ford F-250's. There is not a significant mileage difference between the gas and the diesel versions. Mine gets

Re: [MBZ] OT: Truck for Jamie

2013-09-17 Thread Gary Hurst
it's time for you to know this. jaime used to confide in me that he wanted to be you On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 8:03 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.netwrote: Jaime is just trying to be more like me. First he moves to the country (I think), then he needs a lawn tractor. Now he wants a

Re: [MBZ] Fw: 1967 Mercedes 250-S Project Car - $995 (East Bridgewater, Ma)

2013-09-17 Thread Dwight Giles
That's easy. Pour money into it. It's only about 40 miles from me. I want a 198 but I want the m110 engine. On Sep 17, 2013 9:29 PM, Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: Pretty color, but what do you do with it? On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 6:32 PM, Frederick Moir fredy4.s...@yahoo.com

Re: [MBZ] OT: Truck

2013-09-17 Thread Gerry Archer
He could whack the back off of a big V-8 Mercedes and mount a pickup body on it. Continental Imports in Gainesville, Florida did one that way. It looked pretty nice. I seem to remember Steve or Walter saying they had to reinforce the unibody, however. Gerry From: Kaleb C. Striplin

Re: [MBZ] Fw: 1967 Mercedes 250-S Project Car - $995 (East Bridgewater, Ma)

2013-09-17 Thread Dwight Giles
That's a 108 not 198 I want. On Sep 17, 2013 10:04 PM, Dwight Giles dwight.gi...@gmail.com wrote: That's easy. Pour money into it. It's only about 40 miles from me. I want a 198 but I want the m110 engine. On Sep 17, 2013 9:29 PM, Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: Pretty

Re: [MBZ] Fw: 1967 Mercedes 250-S Project Car - $995 (East Bridgewater, Ma)

2013-09-17 Thread Gary Hurst
i like 108s. they are pretty rust prone, as are most cars of the era (in fact, probably much better than average for the era but atrocious by modern standards). also, it's got an old lube it up kingpin front end but few today get what that means, so unless the front end has been rebuilt in

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