Re: [MBZ] OT Welding learnings

[Jim Cathey via Mercedes]

Arc Welding I
Gas Metal Arc Weld. Ferrous I
Flux Cored Arc Welding I
Tungsten Arc Welding

I think I would want Flux Cored?  The descriptions are minimal, but 
that would be for wire welders?


Take 'em all!  For welding on rusty cars, #3 seems to work for me.

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] OT: Global none-warming. was: Where to dump the snow in Boston?

[OK Don via Mercedes]

This episode is better - - but definitely NSFW.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zkC4hj07dh8


On Mon, Feb 16, 2015 at 6:23 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Probably not safe for work. Vulgarity, and maybe some nudity.
> Penn and Teller. The name of the show is Bullsh*t!
> Entertaining, witty, funny, and a bit to the real side of center.
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qlNobW-bSmo&sns=em
> ‎
>
> Rick
>
>


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Re: [MBZ] OT: Global none-warming. was: Where to dump the snow in Boston?

[OK Don via Mercedes]

There is no education system that can teach someone to think. Either they
will, or they won't. The education system can give those who are capable
the tools they need to not have to re-invent the wheel. The rest can only
be made to be (hopefully) functional enough to do what the thinkers want
them to do. It has been this way forever - it's the human condition.

On Mon, Feb 16, 2015 at 10:21 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> The goal of education is learning how to think.  Thinking requires facts
>> but education is not just learning facts.  Comments like this imply that
>> our education system isn't working.
>>
>
> Sadly, it has not been so for some decades.
>
> The goal of the current ejamacashun sistem is to turn out good little borg
> who follow orders from our brave leader.
>
> It started with "consolidation"
> Moved to centralized  financing
> then to Federal control and manipulation
> and so it goes...
> around the bowl and down the hole
>
>
>


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Re: [MBZ] iCoulomb ?

[Curly McLain via Mercedes]

iWhat?


OK, then it's the iWatt.

On Mon, Feb 16, 2015 at 10:40 PM, Curly McLain 
<126die...@gmail.com> wrote:


No, it would be the iAmpere - it's the amps that make the difference.

OK Don


Only if volties are present too.

Maybe the iVxA




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Re: [MBZ] OT: Global none-warming. was: Where to dump the snow in Boston?

[OK Don via Mercedes]

So do I.

On Mon, Feb 16, 2015 at 10:06 PM, Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> <>
>
> I have a brother like that.
>
> Greg
>
> --
>

OK Don

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for themselves."

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Global none-warming. was: Where to dump the snow in Boston?

[OK Don via Mercedes]

See my tag line - nothing works for some people but peeing on the electric
fence ---

On Mon, Feb 16, 2015 at 9:35 PM, Scott Ritchey via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> The goal of education is learning how to think.  Thinking requires facts
> but education is not just learning facts.  Comments like this imply that
> our education system isn't working.
>
>


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Re: [MBZ] iCoulomb ?

[OK Don via Mercedes]

The ML had one of those trannies - Kaleb has it now. You just pried off the
cap on what should have been the dip stick tube, and poof - a serviceable
tranny. You then buy the universal tranny dip stick (from Q at that time)
and you're in business.

I think there is a law about having to support a product for 7 years. it
doesn't say that the price of those parts has to be reasonable, nor that
they will be in stock at your local dealer, but should not be
un-attainable. We used to hammer computer companies about that all the
time. They could get 6 and 7 year old motherboards for us, but they would
be VERY expensive.

On Mon, Feb 16, 2015 at 10:33 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Yep, and we drive MBs.  And MB decided that transmissions should be
> sealed.  "No user serviceable components"   I never bought one of those
> cars, and I never bought that line.
>
>
>


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Re: [MBZ] iCoulomb ?

[OK Don via Mercedes]

If you look carefully at the Volt, it is actually elegant. The powertrain
is the only one that makes sense, and would be even better with a Diesel
engine. The prise was too high, and I'm irrationally attached to Diesel
fuel, or I would have bought one instead of the Passat.

On Mon, Feb 16, 2015 at 8:23 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> The Volt is the first hybrid that makes any sense, series hybrids should
> be much more efficient than parallel plus you can plug it in. Many people
> would make much of their driving purely on electricity with no need to
> worry about running out since the gas engine would just start.
> Now if they'd made it with a diesel engine they'd be able to see some real
> mileage...
> Which reminds me Chevy is still making the Cruze diesel but apparently
> they don't sell many. I wonder if this is the same foolishness Jeep did a
> few years ago with the Liberty CRD, they only made 8,000 and complained
> that they couldn't sell them but there weren't any available...
> -Curt--
>

OK Don

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for themselves."

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Re: [MBZ] iCoulomb ?

[Curly McLain via Mercedes]

Yep, and we drive MBs.  And MB decided that transmissions should be 
sealed.  "No user serviceable components"   I never bought one of 
those cars, and I never bought that line.


I am not defending or supporting Apple or the iCoulomb or iFahrad.  I 
am just passing on news and adding possible names.


I intend that one of my 240Ds will be the last car I drive.  It is 
user serviceable


I am typing this on a macbook pro that has performed flawlessly for 4 
years and going.  If it needs a drive or other service, I will do it 
myself.  Last time I had to buy a set of jewelers screwdrivers 
different from what I had.   I did stick more memory in it.  It went 
together, it will come apart.




Remember its Apple we're talking about. The whole engine (motor I 
guess) compartment will be glued shut, there will be no user 
serviceable components.
I'm typing this on an Macbook Pro that has no openings for the drive 
or the battery. If either fails it'll be a bugger to replace. The 
newest iMacs are worse. Wasn't there one Macbook that literally was 
glued shut?
I seem to remember there being a law about carmakers providing 10 
years of spare parts.

-Curt



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Re: [MBZ] iCoulomb ?

[OK Don via Mercedes]

No, it would be the iAmpere - it's the amps that make the difference.

On Mon, Feb 16, 2015 at 7:40 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Borrowed from MBCA Hawaii section:
>
> http://europe.autonews.com/article/20150216/COPY/
> 302169928/5-ways-that-apple-is-already-poised-to-become-
> an-automaker?cciid=email-ane-daily
>
> They could call the new product an iCoulomb  or and iTesla  (n)
> iOhm
>
>
>


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Re: [MBZ] OT Robocalls

[OK Don via Mercedes]

However, that wastes your time as well. Just hang up on them.

On Mon, Feb 16, 2015 at 7:42 PM, Mountain Man via Mercedes <
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> Curt wrote:
> > The best way I've found is to waste a bunch of their time...
> >
>
> Hear.
> Hear.
> I like to string them along with questions and then wrong name and
> address.  Lately the calls are not robo, but annoying . . . .
>



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for themselves."

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Global none-warming. was: Where to dump the snow in Boston?

[Curly McLain via Mercedes]

The goal of education is learning how to think.  Thinking requires 
facts but education is not just learning facts.  Comments like this 
imply that our education system isn't working.


Sadly, it has not been so for some decades.

The goal of the current ejamacashun sistem is to turn out good little 
borg who follow orders from our brave leader.


It started with "consolidation"
Moved to centralized  financing
then to Federal control and manipulation
and so it goes...
around the bowl and down the hole

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Global none-warming. was: Where to dump the snow in Boston?

[Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes]

<>

I have a brother like that.

Greg

-Original Message-
From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Andrew 
Strasfogel via Mercedes
Sent: Monday, February 16, 2015 4:11 PM
To: Dan Penoff; Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Global none-warming. was: Where to dump the snow in 
Boston?

She is one of those smart people who are actually quite stupid.

On Mon, Feb 16, 2015 at 7:07 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes < 
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> So she’s dead because she believed the lunar landing was faked?
>
> Did the Illuminati do her in?
>
> Dan
>
>
>
> > On Feb 16, 2015, at 7:02 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > OMG you don't know me at all.
> >
> > My former partner steadfastly believed the lunar landing was faked, 
> > and nothing could shake this belief.  That was one of her fatal flaws...
> >
>
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Global none-warming. was: Where to dump the snow in Boston?

[Scott Ritchey via Mercedes]

The goal of education is learning how to think.  Thinking requires facts but 
education is not just learning facts.  Comments like this imply that our 
education system isn't working.

> -Original Message-
> From:  Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
> Sent: Monday, February 16, 2015 7:11 PM
> 
> She is one of those smart people who are actually quite stupid.
> 


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Re: [MBZ] iCoulomb ?

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

Remember its Apple we're talking about. The whole engine (motor I guess) 
compartment will be glued shut, there will be no user serviceable components.
I'm typing this on an Macbook Pro that has no openings for the drive or the 
battery. If either fails it'll be a bugger to replace. The newest iMacs are 
worse. Wasn't there one Macbook that literally was glued shut?
I seem to remember there being a law about carmakers providing 10 years of 
spare parts.
-Curt
  From: Curly McLain via Mercedes 
 To: Mercedes Discussion List  
 Sent: Monday, February 16, 2015 9:23 PM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] iCoulomb ?
   
>They'll stop supporting your old car every 5 years and force you to upgrade...
>-Curt

Is that any different form toada, Datsoon, shovey and whoever else 
has a 'lectrik car now?

But, yes, they are getting to be as bad as or worse than Micro$haft.

However, what modern car is supported by the manufacturer for more 
than 5 years?  In practicality, not many.  Koreans with 7 yr warranty 
come to mind.  Dogde when they had the 7 yr warranty, but i'd bet a 
good share of the year 6 and 7 parts came from Uro or FLAPS.


Meanwhile, back at the ranch, I thought of the perfect name for the 
iCar.  they should call it the iFahrad

A play on farad, as in measure of capacitance, and the German Fahr and rad.



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Re: [MBZ] iCoulomb ?

[Curly McLain via Mercedes]

They'll stop supporting your old car every 5 years and force you to upgrade...
-Curt


Is that any different form toada, Datsoon, shovey and whoever else 
has a 'lectrik car now?


But, yes, they are getting to be as bad as or worse than Micro$haft.

However, what modern car is supported by the manufacturer for more 
than 5 years?  In practicality, not many.  Koreans with 7 yr warranty 
come to mind.  Dogde when they had the 7 yr warranty, but i'd bet a 
good share of the year 6 and 7 parts came from Uro or FLAPS.



Meanwhile, back at the ranch, I thought of the perfect name for the 
iCar.  they should call it the iFahrad


A play on farad, as in measure of capacitance, and the German Fahr and rad.

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Re: [MBZ] iCoulomb ?

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

The Volt is the first hybrid that makes any sense, series hybrids should be 
much more efficient than parallel plus you can plug it in. Many people would 
make much of their driving purely on electricity with no need to worry about 
running out since the gas engine would just start.
Now if they'd made it with a diesel engine they'd be able to see some real 
mileage...
Which reminds me Chevy is still making the Cruze diesel but apparently they 
don't sell many. I wonder if this is the same foolishness Jeep did a few years 
ago with the Liberty CRD, they only made 8,000 and complained that they 
couldn't sell them but there weren't any available...
-Curt

 

 From: G Mann via Mercedes 
 To: Curly McLain <126die...@gmail.com>; Mercedes Discussion List 
 
 Sent: Monday, February 16, 2015 9:10 PM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] iCoulomb ?
   
I vote they buy up the Chevy Volt and after spending billions to make it
work, re-badge it as the I-Fail...

Instead of people camping out to get in line to get one, they could make
camping equipment part of the design package so you would have a shelter
when it dies and leaves you stranded. Marketing people could sell that..
yeah.. The kit could come with scissors so you could cut grass, go green,
and not go hungry..

;)))

On Mon, Feb 16, 2015 at 6:40 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes <
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> Borrowed from MBCA Hawaii section:
>
> http://europe.autonews.com/article/20150216/COPY/
> 302169928/5-ways-that-apple-is-already-poised-to-become-
> an-automaker?cciid=email-ane-daily
>
> They could call the new product an iCoulomb  or and iTesla  (n)
> iOhm
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Re: [MBZ] iCoulomb ?

[G Mann via Mercedes]

I vote they buy up the Chevy Volt and after spending billions to make it
work, re-badge it as the I-Fail...

Instead of people camping out to get in line to get one, they could make
camping equipment part of the design package so you would have a shelter
when it dies and leaves you stranded. Marketing people could sell that..
yeah.. The kit could come with scissors so you could cut grass, go green,
and not go hungry..

;)))

On Mon, Feb 16, 2015 at 6:40 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Borrowed from MBCA Hawaii section:
>
> http://europe.autonews.com/article/20150216/COPY/
> 302169928/5-ways-that-apple-is-already-poised-to-become-
> an-automaker?cciid=email-ane-daily
>
> They could call the new product an iCoulomb  or and iTesla  (n)
> iOhm
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Re: [MBZ] OT Robocalls

[Curly McLain via Mercedes]

Curt wrote:

 The best way I've found is to waste a bunch of their time...



Hear.
Hear.
I like to string them along with questions and then wrong name and
address.  Lately the calls are not robo, but annoying since they are
from some national 'school' network.  Come to find out the teach
cosmetology.  Yeah, I'm prime service person for that field of
service.  not!  The plan is to hook me with financial aid for a field
that has no future - ugghhh!!
mao



Oh Come on!  You might look alright in a long wig and high heels!  It 
is much easier to "do" your own hair when you can take it off and 
look at it!


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Re: [MBZ] iCoulomb ?

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

They'll stop supporting your old car every 5 years and force you to upgrade...
-Curt

  From: Curly McLain via Mercedes 
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 Sent: Monday, February 16, 2015 8:40 PM
 Subject: [MBZ] iCoulomb ?
   
Borrowed from MBCA Hawaii section:

http://europe.autonews.com/article/20150216/COPY/302169928/5-ways-that-apple-is-already-poised-to-become-an-automaker?cciid=email-ane-daily

They could call the new product an iCoulomb  or and iTesla  (n)
iOhm



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Re: [MBZ] Wilton's computer [was: Re: Schnee]

[Mountain Man via Mercedes]

Addison wrote:
> I also heard it said that "If there is no solution there is no problem."
>

I heard that having birthdays is good for your health.  Studies show
that persons who have more birthdays live longer.
mao

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[MBZ] iCoulomb ?

[Curly McLain via Mercedes]

Borrowed from MBCA Hawaii section:

http://europe.autonews.com/article/20150216/COPY/302169928/5-ways-that-apple-is-already-poised-to-become-an-automaker?cciid=email-ane-daily

They could call the new product an iCoulomb  or and iTesla  (n)
iOhm

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Re: [MBZ] OT Robocalls

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Curt wrote:
> The best way I've found is to waste a bunch of their time...
>

Hear.
Hear.
I like to string them along with questions and then wrong name and
address.  Lately the calls are not robo, but annoying since they are
from some national 'school' network.  Come to find out the teach
cosmetology.  Yeah, I'm prime service person for that field of
service.  not!  The plan is to hook me with financial aid for a field
that has no future - ugghhh!!
mao

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[MBZ] A contest entry

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

I've been buying parts from IDparts.com for awhile, its where I got the 
injector nozzles for my 190D (MB content). Their doing a cold start contest so 
this morning in the cold I made a video:http://youtu.be/hxWA_55F5d8

-Curt
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Re: [MBZ] espresso machine vibrator

[Mountain Man via Mercedes]

Andrew wrote:
> 50 shades of black?

Did anyone see that movie?
I heard that it is quite racey?
mao

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Re: [MBZ] This baffles me

[Curly McLain via Mercedes]

Ultrasonic measurement

Surely someone in DC has sonar...




On February 16, 2015 7:30:56 PM EST, Andrew Strasfogel 
 wrote:

How does one determine thickness of a garage floor, other than drilling
a

 >test hole?




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Re: [MBZ] Fwd: Rolling Heckflosse

[Ed Booher via Mercedes]

The tag under the hood says 110011

On Mon, Feb 16, 2015 at 10:41 AM, Curly McLain via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Thanks Ed!  I thought the 230 was a 110.  What is the sub type? (second
> set of 3 numbers after the 110.?)
>
> 190Dc and 200D are 110.110
>
> The 230 has the single headlights of a 110 and the smaller taillights like
> a 110, but the hood area is stretched to accommodate the M180 engine.
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Re: [MBZ] This baffles me

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Tue, 17 Feb 2015 01:02:50 + (UTC) Curt Raymond via Mercedes
 wrote:

> > I'm sure a ground-penetrating radar, like the Lab used to check out
> > concrete before drilling and ground before digging, could easily tell
> > you. Now you just have to find one.
>
> Bet theres a service for that...

There probably is, but I'm sure it would be much cheaper to drill a hole.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Global none-warming. was: Where to dump the snow in Boston?

[Peter Frederick via Mercedes]

Yeah, I used to have to work for one of those too.  What a pain in the  
sitting part.


Peter

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Re: [MBZ] This baffles me

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

Bet theres a service for that...
-Curt
  From: Craig via Mercedes 
 To: Mercedes Discussion List  
 Sent: Monday, February 16, 2015 7:53 PM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] This baffles me
   
On Mon, 16 Feb 2015 19:45:21 -0500 Max Dillon via Mercedes
 wrote:

> Dunno, I'd drill a test hole.
> -- 
> Max Dillon
> Charleston SC
> '87 300TD
> '95 E300
> 
> On February 16, 2015 7:30:56 PM EST, Andrew Strasfogel
>  wrote:
> >How does one determine thickness of a garage floor, other than drilling
> >a
> >test hole?

I'm sure a ground-penetrating radar, like the Lab used to check out
concrete before drilling and ground before digging, could easily tell
you. Now you just have to find one.


Craig



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Re: [MBZ] Driving in DC

[wiltonw--- via Mercedes]

That parking space was near Georgetown U., not George Wash.

Wilt

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Re: [MBZ] This baffles me

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

Use a masonry bit, they're really easy. The worst thing would be if you hit 
steel in the slab. Actually, not having steel in the slab would probably be bad 
too.
-Curt
  From: Andrew Strasfogel 
 To: Curt Raymond ; Mercedes Discussion List 
 
 Sent: Monday, February 16, 2015 7:09 PM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] This baffles me
   
I love the sound track - it makes the installation seem so carefree and easy.

The steps that are critical are not shown - starting the initial drill hole and 
pounding in the bolt from start to finish in a VERTICAL orientation..  I would 
probably be bouncing the bit all over the place as it refused to dig into the 
floor.

Other than that, I want one badly.



On Mon, Feb 16, 2015 at 6:32 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
 wrote:

The manufacturer has made a video...https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7kXzzrufv_M

-CurtWho generally checks youtube before asking questions.
      From: Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
 To: Curly McLain <126die...@gmail.com>; Mercedes Discussion List 

 Sent: Monday, February 16, 2015 5:35 PM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] This baffles me

If anyone attempts to install this lift as a DIY project please share with
videos and blow by blow account of how you did it.  I am hung up on the
bolt to the floor part.

On Mon, Feb 16, 2015 at 5:11 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> What keeps these lifts from collapsing and squeezing the car doors?
>>
>> http://www.costco.com/.product.11731656.html?&EMID=
>> B2C_2015_0216_PresidentsDay
>>
>> --R
>>
>
> For the same money, or a little more, you can buy a real hoist with the
> bar across the top.  Either way you need a BIG hunk of concrete under it
> with the anchor bolts embedded.  You don't just drill into your 3" slab and
> put in a few blue screws.
>
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Re: [MBZ] This baffles me

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Mon, 16 Feb 2015 19:45:21 -0500 Max Dillon via Mercedes
 wrote:

> Dunno, I'd drill a test hole.
> -- 
> Max Dillon
> Charleston SC
> '87 300TD
> '95 E300
> 
> On February 16, 2015 7:30:56 PM EST, Andrew Strasfogel
>  wrote:
> >How does one determine thickness of a garage floor, other than drilling
> >a
> >test hole?

I'm sure a ground-penetrating radar, like the Lab used to check out
concrete before drilling and ground before digging, could easily tell
you. Now you just have to find one.


Craig

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[MBZ] Driving in DC

[Alice Strickland via Mercedes]

I paid my "fee."  Good luck getting any more outta me.

Check the link below.

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Global none-warming. was: Where to dump the snow in Boston?

[Addison Thompson via Mercedes]

Ahhh……   My faith in the List is restored!   ;->)
Addison


On Feb 16, 2015, at 4:23 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote:

From:  
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Global none-warming. was: Where to dump the snow in 
Boston?

OMG you don't know me at all.

My former partner steadfastly believed the lunar landing was faked, and
nothing could shake this belief.  That was one of her fatal flaws...

On Mon, Feb 16, 2015 at 6:44 PM, OK Don via Mercedes 
wrote:

> I believe that his tongue was placed firmly in his cheek - - -
> 
> On Mon, Feb 16, 2015 at 5:08 PM, Addison Thompson via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> Andrew,
>> Are you just fooling around with us or do you really believe that the
>> lunar landing photos were faked?
>> 
>> From: Andrew Strasfogel 
>> Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Global none-warming. was: Where to dump the snow
> in
>> Boston?
>> Date: February 13, 2015 7:23:44 AM PST
>> 
>> Curt, you just don't get it.  The same folks who faked the lunar landing
>> photos have figured out a way to make it appear that the ice caps are
>> melting and glaciers are receding.  They are being funded by
> latte-guzzling
>> liberals who want you to drive a Prius.
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Re: [MBZ] This baffles me

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

Dunno, I'd drill a test hole.
-- 
Max Dillon
Charleston SC
'87 300TD
'95 E300

On February 16, 2015 7:30:56 PM EST, Andrew Strasfogel  
wrote:
>How does one determine thickness of a garage floor, other than drilling
>a
>test hole?
>

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Re: [MBZ] This baffles me

[dseretakis--- via Mercedes]

I don't think you need a thick slab for a four post.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Feb 16, 2015, at 7:19 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> I'm sure you could pay a professional to install it.
> 
> I'm also tempted.  I have a very high ceiling in my garage, but the garage 
> doors hang low.  If I changed my garage doors, I could probably install a 
> full-size lift, but I'd probably also have to do some concrete work, not sure 
> of thickness of my garage floor pad.
> -- 
> Max Dillon
> Charleston SC
> '87 300TD
> '95 E300
> 
>> On February 16, 2015 7:09:42 PM EST, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> I love the sound track - it makes the installation seem so carefree and
>> easy.
>> 
>> The steps that are critical are not shown - starting the initial drill
>> hole
>> and pounding in the bolt from start to finish in a VERTICAL
>> orientation..
>> I would probably be bouncing the bit all over the place as it refused
>> to
>> dig into the floor.
>> 
>> Other than that, I want one badly.
>> 
>> On Mon, Feb 16, 2015 at 6:32 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> The manufacturer has made a video...
>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7kXzzrufv_M
>>> 
>>> -CurtWho generally checks youtube before asking questions.
>>>  From: Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
>>> To: Curly McLain <126die...@gmail.com>; Mercedes Discussion List <
>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com>
>>> Sent: Monday, February 16, 2015 5:35 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [MBZ] This baffles me
>>> 
>>> If anyone attempts to install this lift as a DIY project please share
>> with
>>> videos and blow by blow account of how you did it.  I am hung up on
>> the
>>> bolt to the floor part.
>>> 
>>> On Mon, Feb 16, 2015 at 5:11 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes <
>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> 
 What keeps these lifts from collapsing and squeezing the car doors?
> 
> http://www.costco.com/.product.11731656.html?&EMID=
> B2C_2015_0216_PresidentsDay
> 
> --R
 
 For the same money, or a little more, you can buy a real hoist with
>> the
 bar across the top.  Either way you need a BIG hunk of concrete
>> under it
 with the anchor bolts embedded.  You don't just drill into your 3"
>> slab
>>> and
 put in a few blue screws.
 
 
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Global none-warming. was: Where to dump the snow in Boston?

[Rick Knoble via Mercedes]

Original Message  
From: Andrew Strasfogel:

>OMG you don't know me at all.

>My former partner steadfastly >believed the lunar landing was >faked, and
>nothing could shake this belief.  >That was one of her fatal flaws...

Probably not safe for work. Vulgarity, and maybe some nudity. 
Penn and Teller. The name of the show is Bullsh*t!
Entertaining, witty, funny, and a bit to the real side of center. 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qlNobW-bSmo&sns=em
‎

Rick 
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Re: [MBZ] This baffles me

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

I'm sure you could pay a professional to install it.

I'm also tempted.  I have a very high ceiling in my garage, but the garage 
doors hang low.  If I changed my garage doors, I could probably install a 
full-size lift, but I'd probably also have to do some concrete work, not sure 
of thickness of my garage floor pad.
-- 
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On February 16, 2015 7:09:42 PM EST, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
 wrote:
>I love the sound track - it makes the installation seem so carefree and
>easy.
>
>The steps that are critical are not shown - starting the initial drill
>hole
>and pounding in the bolt from start to finish in a VERTICAL
>orientation..
>I would probably be bouncing the bit all over the place as it refused
>to
>dig into the floor.
>
>Other than that, I want one badly.
>
>On Mon, Feb 16, 2015 at 6:32 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
>mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
>> The manufacturer has made a video...
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7kXzzrufv_M
>>
>> -CurtWho generally checks youtube before asking questions.
>>   From: Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
>>  To: Curly McLain <126die...@gmail.com>; Mercedes Discussion List <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com>
>>  Sent: Monday, February 16, 2015 5:35 PM
>>  Subject: Re: [MBZ] This baffles me
>>
>> If anyone attempts to install this lift as a DIY project please share
>with
>> videos and blow by blow account of how you did it.  I am hung up on
>the
>> bolt to the floor part.
>>
>> On Mon, Feb 16, 2015 at 5:11 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>
>> > What keeps these lifts from collapsing and squeezing the car doors?
>> >>
>> >> http://www.costco.com/.product.11731656.html?&EMID=
>> >> B2C_2015_0216_PresidentsDay
>> >>
>> >> --R
>> >>
>> >
>> > For the same money, or a little more, you can buy a real hoist with
>the
>> > bar across the top.  Either way you need a BIG hunk of concrete
>under it
>> > with the anchor bolts embedded.  You don't just drill into your 3"
>slab
>> and
>> > put in a few blue screws.
>> >
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Re: [MBZ] This baffles me

[dseretakis--- via Mercedes]

Or just buy a four post. Safer, more practical as you can safely store cars 
underneath and use a bridge jack ( I think that's what it's called) if you want 
to do a repair with wheels off the ramp.

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On Feb 16, 2015, at 5:11 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes  
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>> What keeps these lifts from collapsing and squeezing the car doors?
>> 
>> http://www.costco.com/.product.11731656.html?&EMID=B2C_2015_0216_PresidentsDay
>> 
>> --R
> 
> For the same money, or a little more, you can buy a real hoist with the bar 
> across the top.  Either way you need a BIG hunk of concrete under it with the 
> anchor bolts embedded.  You don't just drill into your 3" slab and put in a 
> few blue screws.
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Global none-warming. was: Where to dump the snow in Boston?

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

She is one of those smart people who are actually quite stupid.

On Mon, Feb 16, 2015 at 7:07 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> So she’s dead because she believed the lunar landing was faked?
>
> Did the Illuminati do her in?
>
> Dan
>
>
>
> > On Feb 16, 2015, at 7:02 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > OMG you don't know me at all.
> >
> > My former partner steadfastly believed the lunar landing was faked, and
> > nothing could shake this belief.  That was one of her fatal flaws...
> >
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Re: [MBZ] OT for Gerry and other toada-volt owners

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

That's a great story.
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Re: [MBZ] This baffles me

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

I love the sound track - it makes the installation seem so carefree and
easy.

The steps that are critical are not shown - starting the initial drill hole
and pounding in the bolt from start to finish in a VERTICAL orientation..
I would probably be bouncing the bit all over the place as it refused to
dig into the floor.

Other than that, I want one badly.

On Mon, Feb 16, 2015 at 6:32 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
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> The manufacturer has made a video...
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7kXzzrufv_M
>
> -CurtWho generally checks youtube before asking questions.
>   From: Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
>  To: Curly McLain <126die...@gmail.com>; Mercedes Discussion List <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com>
>  Sent: Monday, February 16, 2015 5:35 PM
>  Subject: Re: [MBZ] This baffles me
>
> If anyone attempts to install this lift as a DIY project please share with
> videos and blow by blow account of how you did it.  I am hung up on the
> bolt to the floor part.
>
> On Mon, Feb 16, 2015 at 5:11 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> > What keeps these lifts from collapsing and squeezing the car doors?
> >>
> >> http://www.costco.com/.product.11731656.html?&EMID=
> >> B2C_2015_0216_PresidentsDay
> >>
> >> --R
> >>
> >
> > For the same money, or a little more, you can buy a real hoist with the
> > bar across the top.  Either way you need a BIG hunk of concrete under it
> > with the anchor bolts embedded.  You don't just drill into your 3" slab
> and
> > put in a few blue screws.
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Global none-warming. was: Where to dump the snow in Boston?

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

So she’s dead because she believed the lunar landing was faked?

Did the Illuminati do her in?

Dan



> On Feb 16, 2015, at 7:02 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> OMG you don't know me at all.
> 
> My former partner steadfastly believed the lunar landing was faked, and
> nothing could shake this belief.  That was one of her fatal flaws...
> 


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Re: [MBZ] OT: Global none-warming. was: Where to dump the snow in Boston?

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

OMG you don't know me at all.

My former partner steadfastly believed the lunar landing was faked, and
nothing could shake this belief.  That was one of her fatal flaws...

On Mon, Feb 16, 2015 at 6:44 PM, OK Don via Mercedes 
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> I believe that his tongue was placed firmly in his cheek - - -
>
> On Mon, Feb 16, 2015 at 5:08 PM, Addison Thompson via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> > Andrew,
> > Are you just fooling around with us or do you really believe that the
> > lunar landing photos were faked?
> >
> > From: Andrew Strasfogel 
> > Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Global none-warming. was: Where to dump the snow
> in
> > Boston?
> > Date: February 13, 2015 7:23:44 AM PST
> >
> > Curt, you just don't get it.  The same folks who faked the lunar landing
> > photos have figured out a way to make it appear that the ice caps are
> > melting and glaciers are receding.  They are being funded by
> latte-guzzling
> > liberals who want you to drive a Prius.
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> >
> OK Don
>
> NSA: The only branch of government that actually listens to US citizens!
>
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> our people need it sorely on these accounts.”* – Mark Twain
>
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> learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence
> for themselves."
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Re: [MBZ] Wilton's computer [was: Re: Schnee]

[Addison Thompson via Mercedes]

Wilton,
I also heard it said that "If there is no solution there is no problem."
Good luck!
Addison Thompson
On his Mac



On Feb 16, 2015, at 3:31 PM, Wilton wrote:

From: Alice Strickland 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Wilton's computer [was: Re: Schnee]



Nothing is hard if ya have all the answers.  A problem is not a problem once it 
solved.

Wilton
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Global none-warming. was: Where to dump the snow in Boston?

[OK Don via Mercedes]

I believe that his tongue was placed firmly in his cheek - - -

On Mon, Feb 16, 2015 at 5:08 PM, Addison Thompson via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Andrew,
> Are you just fooling around with us or do you really believe that the
> lunar landing photos were faked?
>
> From: Andrew Strasfogel 
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Global none-warming. was: Where to dump the snow in
> Boston?
> Date: February 13, 2015 7:23:44 AM PST
>
> Curt, you just don't get it.  The same folks who faked the lunar landing
> photos have figured out a way to make it appear that the ice caps are
> melting and glaciers are receding.  They are being funded by latte-guzzling
> liberals who want you to drive a Prius.
>
>
>
> --
>
OK Don

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Re: [MBZ] OT for Gerry and other toada-volt owners

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

Hope he has the sense to go looking for the water leak, them bus bars didn't 
corrode themselves...

-Curt
  From: Curly McLain via Mercedes 
 To: Mercedes Discussion List  
 Sent: Monday, February 16, 2015 6:26 PM
 Subject: [MBZ] OT for Gerry and other toada-volt owners
   
  Toada stealer told this pious guy he was in for $4400.  He fixed it 
himself for time and a couple of bucks worth of vinegar and soda.

http://imgur.com/gallery/j8Bcp

Shades of Herr Doktor Marshall Booth.  Also, an insight into the 
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Re: [MBZ] This baffles me

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

The manufacturer has made a video...https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7kXzzrufv_M

-CurtWho generally checks youtube before asking questions.
  From: Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
 To: Curly McLain <126die...@gmail.com>; Mercedes Discussion List 
 
 Sent: Monday, February 16, 2015 5:35 PM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] This baffles me
   
If anyone attempts to install this lift as a DIY project please share with
videos and blow by blow account of how you did it.  I am hung up on the
bolt to the floor part.

On Mon, Feb 16, 2015 at 5:11 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> What keeps these lifts from collapsing and squeezing the car doors?
>>
>> http://www.costco.com/.product.11731656.html?&EMID=
>> B2C_2015_0216_PresidentsDay
>>
>> --R
>>
>
> For the same money, or a little more, you can buy a real hoist with the
> bar across the top.  Either way you need a BIG hunk of concrete under it
> with the anchor bolts embedded.  You don't just drill into your 3" slab and
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[MBZ] OT for Gerry and other toada-volt owners

[Curly McLain via Mercedes]

  Toada stealer told this pious guy he was in for $4400.  He fixed it 
himself for time and a couple of bucks worth of vinegar and soda.


http://imgur.com/gallery/j8Bcp

Shades of Herr Doktor Marshall Booth.  Also, an insight into the 
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Re: [MBZ] Wilton's computer [was: Re: Schnee]

[Alice Strickland via Mercedes]

Yes, cncled USAA card Mon afternoon; new one en route.  Ltr to 'em tomorrow 
splainin the scam in detail.

Wilt

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> On Feb 16, 2015, at 5:38 PM, Craig via Mercedes  wrote:
> 
> On Mon, 16 Feb 2015 16:22:27 -0500 Alice Strickland via Mercedes
>  wrote:
> 
>> SOB in Singapore portrayed himself as TWC agent, took control of my
>> computer, got me to give 'I'm c card # and 'don't know what else he may
>> have done to read/see everything I may do in future.
> 
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> 
> 
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Global none-warming. was: Where to dump the snow in Boston?

[Addison Thompson via Mercedes]

Andrew,
Are you just fooling around with us or do you really believe that the lunar 
landing photos were faked? 
I can tell you that I worked for Buzz Aldrin in 1972 and I knew Neal Armstrong 
(last talked to him in 2007). If they faked the landing they certainly did a 
great job of continuing the charade for many years. 
Surely you don't REALLY believe the landings were faked…..
Addison Thompson
In California where the temps have been in the 80s the past few days


From: Andrew Strasfogel 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Global none-warming. was: Where to dump the snow in 
Boston?
Date: February 13, 2015 7:23:44 AM PST

Curt, you just don't get it.  The same folks who faked the lunar landing
photos have figured out a way to make it appear that the ice caps are
melting and glaciers are receding.  They are being funded by latte-guzzling
liberals who want you to drive a Prius.

On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 10:02 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Whats causing glaciers to recede? Even if temperature data is being faked
> the pictures of big lakes where there used to be glaciers doesn't lie..
> 
> -Curt
>  From: Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
> To: "arche...@embarqmail.com" ; Mercedes
> Discussion List 
> Sent: Friday, February 13, 2015 9:58 AM
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Global none-warming. was: Where to dump the snow
> in Boston?
> 
> So if the polar ice cap isn't melting, what do you think has caused the
> worldwide rise in sea level?  The relentless inundation of coastal areas,
> such as Miami, NYC, Boston and other low lying metropoli?  Trick
> photography?  Conspiracy by the renewable energy cartel?
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Re: [MBZ] Wilton's computer [was: Re: Schnee]

[Alice Strickland via Mercedes]

Right; shouldn't have been hard at all until I couldn't remember the passwords 
for Norton and email.  Then, I had to talk to TWC (ISP).   Trying to get # for 
'em, I found "twconlinehelp.com" with a phone # amongst other legitimate TWC 
listings.  The # is for the scamming SOB in Singapore who presented himself as 
a TWC agent. 

Nothing is hard if ya have all the answers.  A problem is not a problem once it 
solved.

Wilton

Sent from my iPad

> On Feb 16, 2015, at 4:47 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Well, whatever it is you are trying to do to set up a new computer.   should 
> not be too hard, depending.
> 
> You know you can use Siri to do lots of stuff on the ipad - saves a lot of 
> "typing" and she seems to be pretty good at recognizing speech.  Check it 
> out, you can dictate lots of stuff and tell it to do things.
> 
> --Rt 
>> On 2/16/15 4:22 PM, Alice Strickland wrote:
>> Difficult on the iPad or getting to legitimate TWC agent?  Difficulty on 
>> iPad is to keep shaky hands from touching stuff I don' want.  I spend a LOT 
>> -A LOT- of time uldn' remember correcting stuff that gets in accidentally.
>> 
>> Also, the email format I'm using now is not nearly as versatile as what I've 
>> been using.
>> 'Course part of it is not being used to it
>> 
>> Setting up new computer would not have been hard at all if I had remembered 
>> pswrds for email and Norton Security.
>> 
>> SOB in Singapore portrayed himself as TWC agent, took control of my 
>> computer, got me to give 'I'm c card # and 'don't know what else he may have 
>> done to read/see everything I may do in future.
>> 
>> Wilton
>> 
>> Sent from my iPad
>> 
>>> On Feb 16, 2015, at 2:52 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> What exactly are you trying to do?  Not sure what would be so difficult...
>>> 
>>> --R
>>> 
>>> 
 On 2/16/15 2:10 PM, wiltonw--- via Mercedes wrote:
 Computer update not going well.  Nieeded help of ISP (time Warner Cable).  
 Called # supposedly theirs Fri 6th and got scammed by SOB in Singapore at 
 cost of $464.44 plus lots of worry and other costs of trying to recover.  
 Took unit toGeek Squad at Best Buy to try to fix whatever SOB may have 
 done and to try to restore my confidence.p
 
 Don't like the iPad for this
 
 Wilton
 Im
  Craig via Mercedes  wrote:
> On Sun, 15 Feb 2015 22:26:54 -0500 Alice Strickland via Mercedes
>  wrote:
> 
>> It's just part of our kidding each other back and forth at every
>> chance.  No offense taken nor meant.  ;<)
>> 
>> Wilton
>> 
>> Sent from my iPad
> Wilton,
> 
> I see you are still identified as Alice sending from an iPad.
> 
> Is your computer update not going well?
> 
> 
> Craig
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Re: [MBZ] Wilton's computer [was: Re: Schnee]

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Mon, 16 Feb 2015 16:22:27 -0500 Alice Strickland via Mercedes
 wrote:

> SOB in Singapore portrayed himself as TWC agent, took control of my
> computer, got me to give 'I'm c card # and 'don't know what else he may
> have done to read/see everything I may do in future.

I presume you have already called your credit card issuer to tell them to
cancel the card.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] This baffles me

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

If anyone attempts to install this lift as a DIY project please share with
videos and blow by blow account of how you did it.  I am hung up on the
bolt to the floor part.

On Mon, Feb 16, 2015 at 5:11 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> What keeps these lifts from collapsing and squeezing the car doors?
>>
>> http://www.costco.com/.product.11731656.html?&EMID=
>> B2C_2015_0216_PresidentsDay
>>
>> --R
>>
>
> For the same money, or a little more, you can buy a real hoist with the
> bar across the top.  Either way you need a BIG hunk of concrete under it
> with the anchor bolts embedded.  You don't just drill into your 3" slab and
> put in a few blue screws.
>
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Re: [MBZ] This baffles me

[Fred Moir via Mercedes]

Curt, et al."Portable" was the word that gave me the creeps. How many people 
will buy this product and not anchor it properly?How many people will see 
portable and reposition it in haste away from the anchors? My view is that it 
is a recipe for disaster.

Fred Moir.Lynn MA.Diesel preferred.

> Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2015 22:09:26 +
> To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] This baffles me
> From: mercedes@okiebenz.com
> 
> What about the great big bolts attaching it to the floor? Zoom in on the 
> picture, they're pretty clear. ;)
> -Curt
> 
> 
>   From: Fred Moir via Mercedes 
>  To: Mercedes Discussion List  
>  Sent: Monday, February 16, 2015 2:35 PM
>  Subject: Re: [MBZ] This baffles me
>
> Looks dangerous to me. Nothing holding it down. A fall against the side of 
> the car and good night!
> 
> Fred Moir.Lynn MA.Diesel preferred.
  
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Re: [MBZ] Wilton's computer [was: Re: Schnee]

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

The android voice recognition is damned near flawless - it even nailed
"Leonid Breznev" on the first go.

On Mon, Feb 16, 2015 at 4:47 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Well, whatever it is you are trying to do to set up a new computer.
>  should not be too hard, depending.
>
> You know you can use Siri to do lots of stuff on the ipad - saves a lot of
> "typing" and she seems to be pretty good at recognizing speech.  Check it
> out, you can dictate lots of stuff and tell it to do things.
>
> --R
>
>
>
> On 2/16/15 4:22 PM, Alice Strickland wrote:
>
>> Difficult on the iPad or getting to legitimate TWC agent?  Difficulty on
>> iPad is to keep shaky hands from touching stuff I don' want.  I spend a LOT
>> -A LOT- of time correcting stuff that gets in accidentally.
>>
>> Also, the email format I'm using now is not nearly as versatile as what
>> I've been using.
>> 'Course part of it is not being used to it
>>
>> Setting up new computer would not have been hard at all if I had
>> remembered pswrds for email and Norton Security.
>>
>> SOB in Singapore portrayed himself as TWC agent, took control of my
>> computer, got me to give 'I'm c card # and 'don't know what else he may
>> have done to read/see everything I may do in future.
>>
>> Wilton
>>
>> Sent from my iPad
>>
>>  On Feb 16, 2015, at 2:52 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes <
>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> What exactly are you trying to do?  Not sure what would be so
>>> difficult...
>>>
>>> --R
>>>
>>>
>>>  On 2/16/15 2:10 PM, wiltonw--- via Mercedes wrote:
 Computer update not going well.  Nieeded help of ISP (time Warner
 Cable).  Called # supposedly theirs Fri 6th and got scammed by SOB in
 Singapore at cost of $464.44 plus lots of worry and other costs of trying
 to recover.  Took unit toGeek Squad at Best Buy to try to fix whatever SOB
 may have done and to try to restore my confidence.p

 Don't like the iPad for this

 Wilton
 Im
  Craig via Mercedes  wrote:

> On Sun, 15 Feb 2015 22:26:54 -0500 Alice Strickland via Mercedes
>  wrote:
>
>  It's just part of our kidding each other back and forth at every
>> chance.  No offense taken nor meant.  ;<)
>>
>> Wilton
>>
>> Sent from my iPad
>>
> Wilton,
>
> I see you are still identified as Alice sending from an iPad.
>
> Is your computer update not going well?
>
>
> Craig
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Re: [MBZ] OT Welding learnings

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

That's why I came up short for a master's degree - got sick of taking off-
topic courses such as physics and P CHEM

On Mon, Feb 16, 2015 at 3:18 PM, OK Don via Mercedes 
wrote:

> I've wanting to get into arc welding of some sort, and started watching the
> various videos at
> http://www.weldingtipsandtricks.com/mig-welding-videos.html (send by Grant
> a few days ago?). I decided that for lighter metal and around the house, a
> 115 volt MIG/Flux core wire welder is all I need. If you buy the one that
> can accept a spool gun and gas, you can also weld aluminum, but the range
> of gauges is limited to .050 to .075 or so. Probably good enough to
> fabricate gas tanks, etc.
>
> You might need to be able to read/speak English to take/pass the code test.
>
> On Mon, Feb 16, 2015 at 12:45 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> > The local tech college teaches welding of various sorts.  I am thinking
> to
> > take a class.  I just turned 60 (!!!) so it is free except for the
> > materials fee.  The choices are:
> >
> > Arc Welding I
> > Gas Metal Arc Weld. Ferrous I
> > Flux Cored Arc Welding I
> > Tungsten Arc Welding
> >
> > I think I would want Flux Cored?  The descriptions are minimal, but that
> > would be for wire welders?
> >
> > A buddy of mine, a retired doctor, is taking baking classes as a hobby.
> > They wanted him to take freshman English and participate in the dining
> room
> > service to round out his education.  He has been going round and round
> with
> > them about all that, stuck in the bureaucracy.  He doesn't want a degree
> in
> > baking, just learn techniques and such.  I probably would not need
> english
> > to weld?
> >
> > --R
> >
> >
>
>
> --
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Re: [MBZ] This baffles me

[Curly McLain via Mercedes]

What keeps these lifts from collapsing and squeezing the car doors?

http://www.costco.com/.product.11731656.html?&EMID=B2C_2015_0216_PresidentsDay

--R


For the same money, or a little more, you can buy a real hoist with 
the bar across the top.  Either way you need a BIG hunk of concrete 
under it with the anchor bolts embedded.  You don't just drill into 
your 3" slab and put in a few blue screws.


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Re: [MBZ] Fwd: Rolling Heckflosse

[Curly McLain via Mercedes]

Reverse is toward you past the detent, and up.  first is center and up

Second is center and down.

Standard 3 on the tree layout, but a lower gear is added where the 
shovey or frod had reverse, and reverse is one notch further back, 
past a detent.


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Re: [MBZ] Fwd: Rolling Heckflosse

[Curly McLain via Mercedes]

Four on the tree? How does that shift pattern work? Pull way, way toward
you and up for reverse? :)



Presactly!

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Re: [MBZ] This baffles me

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

What about the great big bolts attaching it to the floor? Zoom in on the 
picture, they're pretty clear. ;)
-Curt


  From: Fred Moir via Mercedes 
 To: Mercedes Discussion List  
 Sent: Monday, February 16, 2015 2:35 PM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] This baffles me
   
Looks dangerous to me. Nothing holding it down. A fall against the side of the 
car and good night!

Fred Moir.Lynn MA.Diesel preferred.



> Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2015 13:09:28 -0500
> To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
> Subject: [MBZ] This baffles me
> From: mercedes@okiebenz.com
> 
> What keeps these lifts from collapsing and squeezing the car doors?
> 
> http://www.costco.com/.product.11731656.html?&EMID=B2C_2015_0216_PresidentsDay
> 
> --R
                         
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Re: [MBZ] Wilton's computer [was: Re: Schnee]

[Rich Thomas via Mercedes]

Well, whatever it is you are trying to do to set up a new computer.   
should not be too hard, depending.


You know you can use Siri to do lots of stuff on the ipad - saves a lot 
of "typing" and she seems to be pretty good at recognizing speech.  
Check it out, you can dictate lots of stuff and tell it to do things.


--R


On 2/16/15 4:22 PM, Alice Strickland wrote:

Difficult on the iPad or getting to legitimate TWC agent?  Difficulty on iPad 
is to keep shaky hands from touching stuff I don' want.  I spend a LOT -A LOT- 
of time correcting stuff that gets in accidentally.

Also, the email format I'm using now is not nearly as versatile as what I've 
been using.
'Course part of it is not being used to it

Setting up new computer would not have been hard at all if I had remembered 
pswrds for email and Norton Security.

SOB in Singapore portrayed himself as TWC agent, took control of my computer, 
got me to give 'I'm c card # and 'don't know what else he may have done to 
read/see everything I may do in future.

Wilton

Sent from my iPad


On Feb 16, 2015, at 2:52 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes  
wrote:

What exactly are you trying to do?  Not sure what would be so difficult...

--R



On 2/16/15 2:10 PM, wiltonw--- via Mercedes wrote:
Computer update not going well.  Nieeded help of ISP (time Warner Cable).  
Called # supposedly theirs Fri 6th and got scammed by SOB in Singapore at cost 
of $464.44 plus lots of worry and other costs of trying to recover.  Took unit 
toGeek Squad at Best Buy to try to fix whatever SOB may have done and to try to 
restore my confidence.p

Don't like the iPad for this

Wilton
Im
 Craig via Mercedes  wrote:

On Sun, 15 Feb 2015 22:26:54 -0500 Alice Strickland via Mercedes
 wrote:


It's just part of our kidding each other back and forth at every
chance.  No offense taken nor meant.  ;<)

Wilton

Sent from my iPad

Wilton,

I see you are still identified as Alice sending from an iPad.

Is your computer update not going well?


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Wilton's computer [was: Re: Schnee]

[Alice Strickland via Mercedes]

Difficult on the iPad or getting to legitimate TWC agent?  Difficulty on iPad 
is to keep shaky hands from touching stuff I don' want.  I spend a LOT -A LOT- 
of time correcting stuff that gets in accidentally.

Also, the email format I'm using now is not nearly as versatile as what I've 
been using.
'Course part of it is not being used to it

Setting up new computer would not have been hard at all if I had remembered 
pswrds for email and Norton Security.

SOB in Singapore portrayed himself as TWC agent, took control of my computer, 
got me to give 'I'm c card # and 'don't know what else he may have done to 
read/see everything I may do in future.

Wilton

Sent from my iPad

> On Feb 16, 2015, at 2:52 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> What exactly are you trying to do?  Not sure what would be so difficult...
> 
> --R
> 
> 
>> On 2/16/15 2:10 PM, wiltonw--- via Mercedes wrote:
>> Computer update not going well.  Nieeded help of ISP (time Warner Cable).  
>> Called # supposedly theirs Fri 6th and got scammed by SOB in Singapore at 
>> cost of $464.44 plus lots of worry and other costs of trying to recover.  
>> Took unit toGeek Squad at Best Buy to try to fix whatever SOB may have done 
>> and to try to restore my confidence.p
>> 
>> Don't like the iPad for this
>> 
>> Wilton
>> Im
>>  Craig via Mercedes  wrote:
>>> On Sun, 15 Feb 2015 22:26:54 -0500 Alice Strickland via Mercedes
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
 It's just part of our kidding each other back and forth at every
 chance.  No offense taken nor meant.  ;<)
 
 Wilton
 
 Sent from my iPad
>>> 
>>> Wilton,
>>> 
>>> I see you are still identified as Alice sending from an iPad.
>>> 
>>> Is your computer update not going well?
>>> 
>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Wilton's computer [was: Re: Schnee]

[Alice Strickland via Mercedes]

Loss of peace of mind is worst of all of it.  Been in bad shape for over a week 
now, and tremor of right hand is seriously exacerbated.  Makes doing anything 
even harder.   Especially hard not to touch wrong thing on the iPad.

Wilton

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> On Feb 16, 2015, at 2:37 PM, Craig via Mercedes  wrote:
> 
>> On Mon, 16 Feb 2015 19:10:30 +  wrote:
>> 
>> Computer update not going well.  Needed help of ISP (time Warner
>> Cable).  Called # supposedly theirs Fri 6th and got scammed by SOB in
>> Singapore at cost of $464.44 plus lots of worry and other costs of
>> trying to recover.  Took unit to Geek Squad at Best Buy to try to fix
>> whatever SOB may have done and to try to restore my confidence.
> 
> May you recover your money and peace of mind!
> 
> 
>> Don't like the iPad for this!
> 
> I can understand that.
> 
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Re: [MBZ] ML

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

Yea the same one. I don't remember how many miles it had on it when I got it 
from you but it's a 225k now so they are just worn down.

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> On Feb 16, 2015, at 2:20 PM, OK Don  wrote:
> 
> Is that the ML you got from me? It was GREAT in ice and snow - - - What did 
> you do to the tires? They weren't that bad when you got it.
> 
>> On Mon, Feb 16, 2015 at 1:00 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> We had ice last night with about 6" of snow today. My ML tires are worn out 
>> and waiting on new ones to arrive but even at that it gets around great in 
>> this stuff. Wow.
> 
> 
> -- 
> OK Don
> 
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> people need it sorely on these accounts.” – Mark Twain
> "There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who 
> learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence for 
> themselves."
> 
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> 
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> 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg
> 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph!
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Re: [MBZ] Fwd: Rolling Heckflosse

[OK Don via Mercedes]

The W115 220D had a short hood and was straight across between the
headlights and across the radiator support. The W115 300D ('75 & '76) had a
longer hood and the radiator support was a few inches in front of the line
across the headlights - to accommodate the longer OM617 engine. I would
think that the 110 could be similar for different engines.

The '70 W115 220D that was our first MB had 4 on the tree. you pulled out
on the shifter for reverse, but I can't remember if it was towards or away
from you. A friend's father had a '65 W110 220 (?) with a six cylinder and
4 on the tree.

On Mon, Feb 16, 2015 at 1:17 PM, Ed Booher via Mercedes <
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> Four on the tree? How does that shift pattern work? Pull way, way toward
> you and up for reverse? :)
>
>
>


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Re: [MBZ] ML

[OK Don via Mercedes]

Is that the ML you got from me? It was GREAT in ice and snow - - - What did
you do to the tires? They weren't that bad when you got it.

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> We had ice last night with about 6" of snow today. My ML tires are worn
> out and waiting on new ones to arrive but even at that it gets around great
> in this stuff. Wow.
>
>

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Re: [MBZ] OT Welding learnings

[OK Don via Mercedes]

I've wanting to get into arc welding of some sort, and started watching the
various videos at
http://www.weldingtipsandtricks.com/mig-welding-videos.html (send by Grant
a few days ago?). I decided that for lighter metal and around the house, a
115 volt MIG/Flux core wire welder is all I need. If you buy the one that
can accept a spool gun and gas, you can also weld aluminum, but the range
of gauges is limited to .050 to .075 or so. Probably good enough to
fabricate gas tanks, etc.

You might need to be able to read/speak English to take/pass the code test.

On Mon, Feb 16, 2015 at 12:45 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> The local tech college teaches welding of various sorts.  I am thinking to
> take a class.  I just turned 60 (!!!) so it is free except for the
> materials fee.  The choices are:
>
> Arc Welding I
> Gas Metal Arc Weld. Ferrous I
> Flux Cored Arc Welding I
> Tungsten Arc Welding
>
> I think I would want Flux Cored?  The descriptions are minimal, but that
> would be for wire welders?
>
> A buddy of mine, a retired doctor, is taking baking classes as a hobby.
> They wanted him to take freshman English and participate in the dining room
> service to round out his education.  He has been going round and round with
> them about all that, stuck in the bureaucracy.  He doesn't want a degree in
> baking, just learn techniques and such.  I probably would not need english
> to weld?
>
> --R
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Re: [MBZ] This baffles me

[Ed Booher via Mercedes]

Magic. Sheer magic.

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> What keeps these lifts from collapsing and squeezing the car doors?
>
> http://www.costco.com/.product.11731656.html?&EMID=
> B2C_2015_0216_PresidentsDay
>
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Re: [MBZ] Car for poosy

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

In talking with George, the Leatherique guy, who had several Rolls-Royces over 
the years, I quickly learned I wanted no part of that nightmare. Lots and lots 
of very unique parts and assemblies that are very, very expensive and often 
single sourced.

Beautiful cars, but not my idea of fun.

Dan

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> On Feb 16, 2015, at 3:05 PM, OK Don  wrote:
> 
> I have a friend who bought a '75 Rolls via eBay. flew to California and drove 
> it home. IIRC, he paid $5000 for it. He found out on the drive back to OK 
> that it needed a water pump. He ended up working with his father to machine a 
> new part for the water pump in addition to installing new bearings and seals. 
> Saved $2000 doing that. It was missing a hub cap, and he found one in a local 
> salvage yard, for only $150. Next it needed brake work. It uses high pressure 
> hydraulics for both the brakes and the suspension. IIRC, there are four puck 
> calipers at each wheel with massive rotors. It uses a proprietary hydraulic 
> fluid, which is probably interchangeable with something else, but he hadn't 
> figured out what yet. He claims to have driven it around town a few times, 
> but I've never seen it run.
> 
>> On Mon, Feb 16, 2015 at 8:18 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> I have never investigated it in detail, but from what I have been told the 
>> brake and suspension systems on these cars are highly proprietary and very, 
>> very expensive to repair and maintain.
>> 
>> Gives new meaning to the term, "There is no such thing as a cheap (Mercedes) 
>> Rolls-Royce."
>> 
>> Dan
>> 
>> 
>> --
> 
> 
> OK Don
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> people need it sorely on these accounts.” – Mark Twain
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> learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence for 
> themselves."
> 
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> 
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Re: [MBZ] I just love these cars

[OK Don via Mercedes]

I also like the 126 SEC, but not enough to buy one . . .

On Mon, Feb 16, 2015 at 8:50 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
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> Looks well kept.  I personally dislike that body style, however.
>
> On Sun, Feb 15, 2015 at 4:16 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes <
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>
> > Yes...  I was looking at that ad last night.  Price may be a little high,
> > need to go look at it.
> > --
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> > Charleston SC
> > '87 300TD
> > '95 E300
> >
> > On February 15, 2015 4:07:47 PM EST, Rich Thomas via Mercedes <
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> > >
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Re: [MBZ] Car for poosy

[OK Don via Mercedes]

I have a friend who bought a '75 Rolls via eBay. flew to California and
drove it home. IIRC, he paid $5000 for it. He found out on the drive back
to OK that it needed a water pump. He ended up working with his father to
machine a new part for the water pump in addition to installing new
bearings and seals. Saved $2000 doing that. It was missing a hub cap, and
he found one in a local salvage yard, for only $150. Next it needed brake
work. It uses high pressure hydraulics for both the brakes and the
suspension. IIRC, there are four puck calipers at each wheel with massive
rotors. It uses a proprietary hydraulic fluid, which is probably
interchangeable with something else, but he hadn't figured out what yet. He
claims to have driven it around town a few times, but I've never seen it
run.

On Mon, Feb 16, 2015 at 8:18 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> I have never investigated it in detail, but from what I have been told the
> brake and suspension systems on these cars are highly proprietary and very,
> very expensive to repair and maintain.
>
> Gives new meaning to the term, "There is no such thing as a cheap
> (Mercedes) Rolls-Royce."
>
> Dan
>
>
> --
>

OK Don

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for themselves."

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2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg
1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph!
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Re: [MBZ] Wilton's computer [was: Re: Schnee]

[Rich Thomas via Mercedes]

What exactly are you trying to do?  Not sure what would be so difficult...

--R


On 2/16/15 2:10 PM, wiltonw--- via Mercedes wrote:

Computer update not going well.  Nieeded help of ISP (time Warner Cable).  
Called # supposedly theirs Fri 6th and got scammed by SOB in Singapore at cost 
of $464.44 plus lots of worry and other costs of trying to recover.  Took unit 
to Geek Squad at Best Buy to try to fix whatever SOB may have done and to try 
to restore my confidence.

Don't like the iPad for this!

Wilton

 Craig via Mercedes  wrote:

On Sun, 15 Feb 2015 22:26:54 -0500 Alice Strickland via Mercedes
 wrote:


It's just part of our kidding each other back and forth at every
chance.  No offense taken nor meant.  ;<)

Wilton

Sent from my iPad


Wilton,

I see you are still identified as Alice sending from an iPad.

Is your computer update not going well?


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] This baffles me

[Rich Thomas via Mercedes]

Actually more reading on the reviews shows it requires bolts in the 
floor to hold the posts, which sorta defeats the purpose of having 
"portable" lifts, though I suppose if you unbolt them and move them they 
would be OK.  Would have to put nuts or something in the floor though so 
no studs sticking up to punch tires.  And there are requirements for 
floor thickness and concrete strength, which I would be concerned about 
unless I poured proper footings for it.  It seems useful though for a 
regular garage, you can get the car lifted up to 4ft (or until it hits 
the ceiling I guess) which gives some good room for a lot of jobs though 
you would still be kinda hunched over or on a creeper.  I see used lifts 
for about $2k or less on CL occasionally, but they are the high-lift 
ones so you would need a high ceiling for them.


--R


On 2/16/15 2:35 PM, Fred Moir via Mercedes wrote:

Looks dangerous to me. Nothing holding it down. A fall against the side of the 
car and good night!

Fred Moir.Lynn MA.Diesel preferred.


Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2015 13:09:28 -0500
To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: [MBZ] This baffles me
From: mercedes@okiebenz.com

What keeps these lifts from collapsing and squeezing the car doors?

http://www.costco.com/.product.11731656.html?&EMID=B2C_2015_0216_PresidentsDay

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Re: [MBZ] Wilton's computer [was: Re: Schnee]

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Mon, 16 Feb 2015 19:10:30 +  wrote:

> Computer update not going well.  Needed help of ISP (time Warner
> Cable).  Called # supposedly theirs Fri 6th and got scammed by SOB in
> Singapore at cost of $464.44 plus lots of worry and other costs of
> trying to recover.  Took unit to Geek Squad at Best Buy to try to fix
> whatever SOB may have done and to try to restore my confidence.

May you recover your money and peace of mind!


> Don't like the iPad for this!

I can understand that.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] This baffles me

[Fred Moir via Mercedes]

Looks dangerous to me. Nothing holding it down. A fall against the side of the 
car and good night!

Fred Moir.Lynn MA.Diesel preferred.

> Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2015 13:09:28 -0500
> To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
> Subject: [MBZ] This baffles me
> From: mercedes@okiebenz.com
> 
> What keeps these lifts from collapsing and squeezing the car doors?
> 
> http://www.costco.com/.product.11731656.html?&EMID=B2C_2015_0216_PresidentsDay
> 
> --R
  
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Re: [MBZ] Fwd: Rolling Heckflosse

[Ed Booher via Mercedes]

Four on the tree? How does that shift pattern work? Pull way, way toward
you and up for reverse? :)

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> And both have a four speed "on the tree", not a three speed.
>
> Peter
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Re: [MBZ] Wilton's computer [was: Re: Schnee]

[wiltonw--- via Mercedes]

Computer update not going well.  Nieeded help of ISP (time Warner Cable).  
Called # supposedly theirs Fri 6th and got scammed by SOB in Singapore at cost 
of $464.44 plus lots of worry and other costs of trying to recover.  Took unit 
to Geek Squad at Best Buy to try to fix whatever SOB may have done and to try 
to restore my confidence.

Don't like the iPad for this!

Wilton

 Craig via Mercedes  wrote: 
> On Sun, 15 Feb 2015 22:26:54 -0500 Alice Strickland via Mercedes
>  wrote:
> 
> > It's just part of our kidding each other back and forth at every
> > chance.  No offense taken nor meant.  ;<)
> > 
> > Wilton
> > 
> > Sent from my iPad
> 
> 
> Wilton,
> 
> I see you are still identified as Alice sending from an iPad.
> 
> Is your computer update not going well?
> 
> 
> Craig
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[MBZ] ML

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

We had ice last night with about 6" of snow today. My ML tires are worn out and 
waiting on new ones to arrive but even at that it gets around great in this 
stuff. Wow.

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Re: [MBZ] here you go

[G. M. Brown via Mercedes]

No matter how good/bad the price for one of these, I think the majority of the 
folks on this list are of the somewhat frugal variety and wouldn't be 
interested in the gas mileage.

G. M. Brown
Brevard, NC
  
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[MBZ] OT Welding learnings

[Rich Thomas via Mercedes]

The local tech college teaches welding of various sorts.  I am thinking 
to take a class.  I just turned 60 (!!!) so it is free except for the 
materials fee.  The choices are:


Arc Welding I
Gas Metal Arc Weld. Ferrous I
Flux Cored Arc Welding I
Tungsten Arc Welding

I think I would want Flux Cored?  The descriptions are minimal, but that 
would be for wire welders?


A buddy of mine, a retired doctor, is taking baking classes as a hobby.  
They wanted him to take freshman English and participate in the dining 
room service to round out his education.  He has been going round and 
round with them about all that, stuck in the bureaucracy.  He doesn't 
want a degree in baking, just learn techniques and such.  I probably 
would not need english to weld?


--R


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Re: [MBZ] OT Robocalls

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

Long time ago I had an answering machine that could be set to start with the 
three tones used to signal the phone service had been disconnected.  Very 
effective at stopping the unwanted calls.  Real humans would listen past the 
tone, then either leave a message or try again later.
-- 
Max Dillon
Charleston SC
'87 300TD
'95 E300
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Re: [MBZ] OT Robocalls

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

You need something Like this:

Www.plugnblock.com

I used to have a little black box that went inline with the POTS line that 
would pause the off hook signal or something to that effect. It disrupted 
recorded calls somehow by doing this.

I just look at the caller ID and if I don't recognize it I ignore the call.

Dan

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> On Feb 16, 2015, at 12:09 PM, Fred Moir via Mercedes  
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> 
> Alles.Is there some kind of electronic raspberry that one could squirt down 
> the phone to stop robocalls?The do-not-call-list being more than useless, 
> annoying too.
> 
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[MBZ] This baffles me

[Rich Thomas via Mercedes]

What keeps these lifts from collapsing and squeezing the car doors?

http://www.costco.com/.product.11731656.html?&EMID=B2C_2015_0216_PresidentsDay

--R


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Re: [MBZ] OT Robocalls

[G Mann via Mercedes]

I find keeping a coaches whistle near the phone to be an effective tool..
Phone rings, it's an unwanted call, I pick up the whistle and blow it into
the phone...

Usually, by the time I'm through, they have hung up and moved on to more
receptive pastures.

On Mon, Feb 16, 2015 at 10:57 AM, Fred Moir via Mercedes <
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> Curt.I'd thought of replying in Cockney rhyming slang or Scouse or some
> such. Too much trouble for so little reward.
>
> Fred Moir.Lynn MA.Diesel preferred.
>
> > Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2015 17:15:50 +
> > To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
> > Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Robocalls
> > From: mercedes@okiebenz.com
> >
> > The best way I've found is to waste a bunch of their time, it doesn't
> stop them but seems to slow them down some. As others have said acting
> clueless works pretty well but for me nothing beats being really, really
> friendly. Make the caller want to not bother you anymore just because
> you're such a great guy...
> > -Curt
> >   From: Fred Moir via Mercedes 
> >  To: Mercedes Discussion List 
> >  Sent: Monday, February 16, 2015 12:09 PM
> >  Subject: [MBZ] OT Robocalls
> >
> > Alles.Is there some kind of electronic raspberry that one could squirt
> down the phone to stop robocalls?The do-not-call-list being more than
> useless, annoying too.
> >
> > Fred Moir.Lynn MA.Diesel preferred.
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Re: [MBZ] OT Robocalls

[Rich Thomas via Mercedes]

If they are recorded messages just ignore them if the caller ID shows no 
info or some random number from somewhere.  If the answering machine 
gets it they stop.  If it is a person, like "Technical Services" calling 
about your windows computer just start shouting allahuwa akbar, asking 
if they are sending the bomb, when is the martyrdom operation inshallah, 
is washington dc the target, throw in a few obamas.  They have not 
called for a coupla weeks now...


--R


On 2/16/15 12:09 PM, Fred Moir via Mercedes wrote:

Alles.Is there some kind of electronic raspberry that one could squirt down the 
phone to stop robocalls?The do-not-call-list being more than useless, annoying 
too.

Fred Moir.Lynn MA.Diesel preferred. 
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Re: [MBZ] OT Robocalls

[Fred Moir via Mercedes]

Curt.I'd thought of replying in Cockney rhyming slang or Scouse or some such. 
Too much trouble for so little reward.

Fred Moir.Lynn MA.Diesel preferred.

> Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2015 17:15:50 +
> To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Robocalls
> From: mercedes@okiebenz.com
> 
> The best way I've found is to waste a bunch of their time, it doesn't stop 
> them but seems to slow them down some. As others have said acting clueless 
> works pretty well but for me nothing beats being really, really friendly. 
> Make the caller want to not bother you anymore just because you're such a 
> great guy...
> -Curt
>   From: Fred Moir via Mercedes 
>  To: Mercedes Discussion List  
>  Sent: Monday, February 16, 2015 12:09 PM
>  Subject: [MBZ] OT Robocalls
>
> Alles.Is there some kind of electronic raspberry that one could squirt down 
> the phone to stop robocalls?The do-not-call-list being more than useless, 
> annoying too.
> 
> Fred Moir.Lynn MA.Diesel preferred.
  
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Re: [MBZ] DC driving

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

I'll try and get you an address so you can mail in your fine, plus
interest.  That will both clear your conscience and broaden our tax base.
A win-win for all.  [?]

On Mon, Feb 16, 2015 at 12:00 PM, Alice Strickland via Mercedes <
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> Click the link below to review my DC blizzard driving years ago on 80 240D.
>
> http://www.mail-archive.com/mercedes%40okiebenz.com/msg177872.html
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> Wilton
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Re: [MBZ] OT Robocalls

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Try "Hola" and then continue in Spanglish.

On Mon, Feb 16, 2015 at 12:15 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
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> The best way I've found is to waste a bunch of their time, it doesn't stop
> them but seems to slow them down some. As others have said acting clueless
> works pretty well but for me nothing beats being really, really friendly.
> Make the caller want to not bother you anymore just because you're such a
> great guy...
> -Curt
>   From: Fred Moir via Mercedes 
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>  Sent: Monday, February 16, 2015 12:09 PM
>  Subject: [MBZ] OT Robocalls
>
> Alles.Is there some kind of electronic raspberry that one could squirt
> down the phone to stop robocalls?The do-not-call-list being more than
> useless, annoying too.
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Re: [MBZ] snowmageddon XXXXVIIIIIII

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

I am of course speaking in jest.  We have a well coordinated attack plan in
place - no asphalt left unsalted.

The problem with our recent snow "events" is timing:  each storm (including
the one due in a few hours) managed to hit town just before the morning
commute.

On Mon, Feb 16, 2015 at 11:45 AM, Curly McLain via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Don't scoff if you've never been driving in DC during rush hour.  People
>> commute more than two hours to get to work, and traffic often grid-locks in
>> good weather.  Wet snow packing down to ice on the freeway makes it really
>> bad, and inadequate funding from Congress for road clearing doesn't help a
>> bit.
>>
>> Peter
>>
>
>
> How's that go?   Your failure to plan ahead does not constitute a crisis
> for me?
>
> DC's lack of planning and preparedness does not constitute a crisis for me.
>
>
> It has snowed regularly in the area where DC is for eons.  Nothing new
> there.   Failure to plan and prepare in DC... nothing new there either.
> Its run by the slickest shysters money can buy.
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Re: [MBZ] here you go

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

If there are no obvious issues based on inspection and test drive, I am all
over this like casing on salami.

On Mon, Feb 16, 2015 at 11:26 AM, Curly McLain via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> http://jalopnik.com/would-you-pay-4-750-for-this-1993-
>> mercedes-benz-600sel-1685943537
>>
>> --R
>>
>
> Nope!  the v-12 is problematic and expensive, like the M100 club
>
> I'd sooner pay that for a good 300SDL.  Its a better car with a better
> engine.  (and less electronics)
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Re: [MBZ] OT Robocalls

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

The best way I've found is to waste a bunch of their time, it doesn't stop them 
but seems to slow them down some. As others have said acting clueless works 
pretty well but for me nothing beats being really, really friendly. Make the 
caller want to not bother you anymore just because you're such a great guy...
-Curt
  From: Fred Moir via Mercedes 
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 Sent: Monday, February 16, 2015 12:09 PM
 Subject: [MBZ] OT Robocalls
   
Alles.Is there some kind of electronic raspberry that one could squirt down the 
phone to stop robocalls?The do-not-call-list being more than useless, annoying 
too.

Fred Moir.Lynn MA.Diesel preferred.                         
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[MBZ] OT Robocalls

[Fred Moir via Mercedes]

Alles.Is there some kind of electronic raspberry that one could squirt down the 
phone to stop robocalls?The do-not-call-list being more than useless, annoying 
too.

Fred Moir.Lynn MA.Diesel preferred.   
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Re: [MBZ] DC driving

[Alice Strickland via Mercedes]

Click the link below to review my DC blizzard driving years ago on 80 240D.

http://www.mail-archive.com/mercedes%40okiebenz.com/msg177872.html

Wilton

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Re: [MBZ] snowmageddon XXXXVIIIIIII

[Curly McLain via Mercedes]

Don't scoff if you've never been driving in DC during rush hour.  
People commute more than two hours to get to work, and traffic often 
grid-locks in good weather.  Wet snow packing down to ice on the 
freeway makes it really bad, and inadequate funding from Congress 
for road clearing doesn't help a bit.


Peter



How's that go?   Your failure to plan ahead does not constitute a 
crisis for me?


DC's lack of planning and preparedness does not constitute a crisis for me.


It has snowed regularly in the area where DC is for eons.  Nothing 
new there.   Failure to plan and prepare in DC... nothing new there 
either.Its run by the slickest shysters money can buy.


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Re: [MBZ] here you go

[Curly McLain via Mercedes]

http://jalopnik.com/would-you-pay-4-750-for-this-1993-mercedes-benz-600sel-1685943537

--R


Nope!  the v-12 is problematic and expensive, like the M100 club

I'd sooner pay that for a good 300SDL.  Its a better car with a 
better engine.  (and less electronics)


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Re: [MBZ] snowmageddon XXXXVIIIIIII

[Rich Thomas via Mercedes]

It's not an issue of inadequate funding for road clearing -- it makes no 
sense to spend huge amounts of money on something that might be 
necessary once or twice a year.  But then again, it's the federal 
gummint, so disregard my comment...


--R


On 2/16/15 11:11 AM, Peter Frederick via Mercedes wrote:
Don't scoff if you've never been driving in DC during rush hour.  
People commute more than two hours to get to work, and traffic often 
grid-locks in good weather.  Wet snow packing down to ice on the 
freeway makes it really bad, and inadequate funding from Congress for 
road clearing doesn't help a bit.


Peter

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Re: [MBZ] snowmageddon XXXXVIIIIIII

[Peter Frederick via Mercedes]

Don't scoff if you've never been driving in DC during rush hour.   
People commute more than two hours to get to work, and traffic often  
grid-locks in good weather.  Wet snow packing down to ice on the  
freeway makes it really bad, and inadequate funding from Congress for  
road clearing doesn't help a bit.


Peter

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[MBZ] SL

[Jim Cathey via Mercedes]

Anybody looking for a 560SL?  A co-worker's moving to London,
and is lightening the load.  Smoke silver (possibly a repaint),
120kmi or so, meticulously maintained.  Needs very little.
He's been asking $7k looking for a quick sale, he figured it
was a $10-12k car.  Located in or about Spokane, WA USA.
He bought it from the dealer, they had it parked inside in
the showroom.

-- Jim


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