It's on jackstands - probably to hide the collapsed air bags in the
suspension. IIRC that's around $1000 per corner to fix. But that
would be a stunner when repaired and painted! I'm thinking Astral
Silver would do it justice. Wonder what condition the engine is in.
That could be a real
Air bags can be had for about $300 each per corner. Valves are more. But
you don't necessarily need them to be rebuilt to have a driveable car.
I'm rebuilding my second air suspension car right now, a W112 coupe.
They're really not so bad, it's a simple system. But parts are expensive,
they
Do realize that there are a lot of people out there who don't understand the
air suspension and as a result kludge it up badly.
My former W112 wouldn't stay up until I went through and adjusted all the
valves per the factory procedure. After doing so, it would stay up for three
weeks at a time
By 1969 the M189 was gone. This would be a M130 according to the
info I found, so it is no longer a 4 door 300SL. Still a nice car,
and it looks worth saving.
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'Pends on ambient temp and whether I'm gonna keep driving or immediately
park it to bake (expand) in the hot sun. Most times, I wait for foam to
dissipate and pack more in.
BTW, visitors at the air show few days ago were alarmed that the B-52H on
display in the hot sun was leaking fuel and
Don't forget: One of life's most useless things (sometimes critical) is
empty space in top of fuel tank.
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Well, wait for foam to dissipate and fill 'until liquid is at same point in
neck. Also shake car a bit side to side with hip to release trapped bubbles
and pack in some more. Ya never know when ya might need that last cup full.
;)
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What I am after is accurate mpg calculations, not sure how much the
foam might vary from pump to pump
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NOW the truth comes out. I answered yes originally to both questions
because I suspected Kaleb didn't explain his real question.
My stock answer to an either-or double
If you keep an elevated tank and fill from gravity, you don't get ANY
foaming. Ask any farmer with an elevated Diesel tank.
Well, wait for foam to dissipate and fill 'until liquid is at same
point in neck. Also shake car a bit side to side with hip to
release trapped bubbles and pack in
Ah... not so grasshopper...
My comment and attaboy was directed to Curlys post.
MIS judgement.. how novel for you...
[snark off]
On Wed, May 27, 2015 at 10:52 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
DId I just get an Attaboy from Grant?
Grant, I serously
I need to get one of those tanks and get some farm diesel
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On May 27, 2015, at 1:21 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
If you keep an elevated tank and fill from gravity, you don't get ANY
foaming. Ask any farmer with an elevated Diesel tank.
Yeah, I'd like to have some a that farm Diesel, too.
(Notice I still say too, not that new-fangled as well. ;)
Wilton
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'Had Klima fail on my '91 350SDL and '87 300D. Also received a new bad one
from Gary. He quickly sent a good replacement of course.
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DId I just get an Attaboy from Grant?
Grant, I serously MISjudged you. :)
On Wed, May 27, 2015 at 1:49 PM, G Mann via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com
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Attaboy !
You summed it up, in one post. It is the essence of America and the
Constitution. Present individual occupying the office
No, I meant what I said. The original 109 had the M189, which is a
modified 300SL engine first used in the Adenour outside the 300SL, so
the original 109 300SEL was a 4 door version of the 300SL. With the
M130, it had no ties to the 300Sl, except maybe the differential.
300SLs did exist in
On May 27, 2015 10:31 AM, Curly McLain via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com
wrote:
No, I meant what I said. The original 109 had the M189, which is a
modified 300SL engine first used in the Adenour outside the 300SL, so the
original 109 300SEL was a 4 door version of the 300SL. With the M130, it
Andrew writes :
Those Red Chinese need to go to reprogramming school to unlearn capitalism.
Maybe we can send them Obama to be their new leader, when he retires
in another year. That should do it.
Rick
Who just couldn't resist a cheap shot.
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Yeah! the bumster
Yes, something like that. They all are 3 liter slant 6 engines with
a common lineage.
M130 and predecessor M180 are vertical 6 cyl engines of varying
displacement from 2.2 to 3 L.
On May 27, 2015 10:31 AM, Curly McLain via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com
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No, I meant what I said.
I used to do this endlessly in order to ge a REALLY full fuel tank. Now I
just pump to the initial shutoff and call it a day.
On Wed, May 27, 2015 at 12:17 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
When you pump diesel do you stop when the pump shuts off or do you let the
There was no 300SL vehicle produced in 1969, although as you say the 6 cyl.
engine from the 300SL Gullwing era may have still been in production.
(M189)
On Wed, May 27, 2015 at 12:15 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
Yes, something like that. They all are 3 liter
Bravo! You manage to twist around any statement to make a cheap political
(pointless) point
On Wed, May 27, 2015 at 11:20 AM, Curly McLain via Mercedes
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
Andrew writes :
Those Red Chinese need to go to reprogramming school to unlearn
capitalism.
Maybe we can
I let it stop when the foam shuts the pump off. Life is too short to spend
time trying to get the last drop (or gallon) into the tank. This is easier
when your Diesel car will go 800 miles on a full tank, 750 on an almost
full tank :-)
On Wed, May 27, 2015 at 11:09 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin via
800 miles? How big is your fuel tank, Don?
On Wed, May 27, 2015 at 12:27 PM, OK Don via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com
wrote:
I let it stop when the foam shuts the pump off. Life is too short to spend
time trying to get the last drop (or gallon) into the tank. This is easier
when your Diesel
Depends on what I'm after, if its a long distance drive I'll wait. The Jetta in
particular will hold almost two whole gallons more, thats nearly 100 miles on
the highway.Most of the time I don't bother.
-Curt
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When you pump diesel do you stop when the pump shuts off or do you let the foam
go down and pump more in?
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Yeah, but it gets tedious doesn't it?
On Wed, May 27, 2015 at 12:22 PM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
Since the foaming is enough to prevent something like a full gallon
going in, I always de-foam and top off.
-- Jim
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Since the foaming is enough to prevent something like a full gallon
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When you pump diesel do you stop when the pump shuts off or do you
let the foam go down and pump more in?
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Those Red Chinese need to go to reprogramming school to unlearn capitalism.
On Tue, May 26, 2015 at 11:30 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes
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http://www.businessinsider.com/office-that-looks-like-star-trek-enterprise-2015-5
The USS Enterprise has landed.
Andrew writes :
Those Red Chinese need to go to reprogramming school to unlearn capitalism.
Maybe we can send them Obama to be their new leader, when he retires in another
year. That should do it.
Rick
Who just couldn't resist a cheap shot.
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You mean 300SE L. 300SL does not exist in 1969.
On Wed, May 27, 2015 at 9:51 AM, Curly McLain via Mercedes
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
By 1969 the M189 was gone. This would be a M130 according to the info I
found, so it is no longer a 4 door 300SL. Still a nice car, and it looks
worth
Last weekend, my son and I went to the lake.
We are in Winnipeg and we go to Sioux Narrows on Lake of the Woods about
45 minutes south of Kenora.
It is roughly 175 miles each way and the first 80 miles is fairly flat 4
lane highway.
After that we get more into Canadian Shield territory and the
To try to get accurate mileage calculations, wait for the foam to go down
and keep adding until you see liquid. You said it - no way to know the
volume of the foam, which may even vary with temperature.
Even when waiting for the foam to go down, there are several factors
working against you,
Those Red Chinese need to go to reprogramming school to unlearn capitalism.
How can you twist a trekkie posting into a leftist political rant?
Funny thing, communism, marxism and socialism all fail because human
nature is to desire freedom and independence. Capitalism existed
since the
Just read an article about the most recent bug in iPhone IOS, which is
triggered by a text message containing both arabic and english text.
Apple will first deny that anything could possibly wrong, then secretly
work on it for months while selling new iPhones to users who end up in the
forced
On 27/05/2015 11:27 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:
800 miles? How big is your fuel tank, Don?
Andrew, you have to remember that these cars all do at least 40 mpg so
that only requires a 20 gallon tank.
RB
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What I am after is accurate mpg calculations, not sure how much the foam might
vary from pump to pump
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On May 27, 2015, at 11:29 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
Depends on what I'm after, if its a long distance drive I'll wait. The Jetta
in
There is no relationship between a W109 and the Gullwing other than
they used a mechanical injection pump for fuel delivery, I don't think
even the pump is the same.
The Gullwing engine wasn't used all that much, it was very expensive
to manufacture, and difficult to maintain (the
On 27/05/2015 11:50 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
What I am after is accurate mpg calculations, not sure how much the foam might
vary from pump to pump
I would suggest that you do the same process each time whether it be to
stop when the pump kicks off or to try to fill more once
My brother's SDL has a 30 gallon tank, and will go nearly 900 miles on
a full one. He filled up once on the way from home to Alexandria, VA.
My 87 300D holds 20, and in good weather I can easily to 500 miles
before stopping to re-fuel.
The Golf will hold quite a bit more (at least 1.5
Yes what?
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On May 27, 2015, at 11:17 AM, Curly McLain via Mercedes
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
When you pump diesel do you stop when the pump shuts off or do
you let the foam go down and pump more in?
Sent from my iPhone
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Yes
Yes to your questions.
When
He's not as bad as Harper.
In any case, their gratuitous cheap shots had nothing to do with Red
Chinese Star Trek capitalists.
On Wed, May 27, 2015 at 12:31 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
Well, you must admit that your current president has been a major
Well, you must admit that your current president has been a major
disappointment for most Americans.
He is a good speaker and managed to convince the voters that he could
bring change, but he has been a failure.
I am not suggesting that the Republican alternatives were any better,
but he
Yes what?
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On May 27, 2015, at 11:17 AM, Curly McLain via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com
wrote:
When you pump diesel do you stop when the pump shuts off or do you let the
foam go down and pump more in?
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Yes
Too late - I have it in writing.
;)
I love this list.
On Wed, May 27, 2015 at 2:54 PM, G Mann via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com
wrote:
Ah... not so grasshopper...
My comment and attaboy was directed to Curlys post.
MIS judgement.. how novel for you...
[snark off]
On Wed, May 27,
Check the prices first. Last time I checked the offroad diesel
without tax, delivered was more per gallon than road taxed Diesel at
the pump in town.
You are likely to be stopped and have your tank dipped with the
pickup. It is unlikely with a car.
I need to get one of those tanks and
'Had Klima fail on my '91 350SDL and '87 300D. Also received a new
bad one from Gary. He quickly sent a good replacement of course.
Wilton
You are lucky Not many thing Herr Doktor was wrong about but he
was wrong about Klimas never failing. It routes electrons. Things
that move, route
I filled my W108 280SE REALLY full on a hot summer day in D.C. (100 F.),
then drove home about 10 miles and parked in the carport. Gasoline began
gushing out of the (through) the filler cap, Scary!
On Wed, May 27, 2015 at 3:33 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes
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Check
http://chicago.craigslist.org/nwc/cto/5043396472.html
Rick
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I have found that calculating the cost per mile at each station is the best
way to determine which station to use. I keep a log for each diesel car.
This levels that playing field by accounting for inaccurate pumps.
-
Max
Charleston SC
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Grant wrote:
Anything granted can be taken back at will , just a reminder to all
overblown government agencies, communist organizers, and community
agitators.
Isn't that a paraphrase of a founder? i.e. Jefferson or Hamilton?
The problem seems that today most citizens are willing to be duped
RB wrote:
Well, you must admit that your current president has been a major
disappointment for most Americans.
The reason for that disappointment? - America is racist, pure and simple.
Go ahead, lets see a raise of hands - are there any dark skin people
reading okiebenz?
Nope! - I suspect...
The way to get accurate milage calculations is to do them over several
tanks. this will average out the differences in fill, although it
won't help much with pump variations unless you always use the same
pump -- I can to and from work, but on the road, no. Otherwise fill
the same way at
Lol, that 26 gallon tank with the filler six inches higher than the
top doesn't give you much room for expansion!
That is why, in fact, the instructions always say not to top off the
tank. Not a problem for me, as I'm half a gallon away from home most
of the time I fill up, and likely a
Rick wrote:
http://chicago.craigslist.org/nwc/cto/5043396472.html
I like the price and engine - rod bender?
My son knew a guy that had one in the rod bender era local - maybe this is it?
Thanks.
mao
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Bends rods, too.
Wilton
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Subject: [MBZ] Beater For Mao
On 27/05/2015 4:28 PM, Mountain Man via Mercedes wrote:
RB wrote:
Well, you must admit that your current president has been a major
disappointment for most Americans.
The reason for that disappointment? - America is racist, pure and simple.
Go ahead, lets see a raise of hands - are there any
RB wrote:
Well, you must admit that your current president has been a major
disappointment for most Americans.
The reason for that disappointment? - America is racist, pure and simple.
Go ahead, lets see a raise of hands - are there any dark skin people
reading okiebenz?
Nope! - I suspect...
RB wrote:
Unfortunately, he appears to have been all talk and very little action.
I think we could do a bit more introspection becuz I think our racism
is more than we suspect - I'm not racist.
Action not happening has been a function of the racism no matter how
you frame it - they had both
Max wrote:
Just read an article about the most recent bug in iPhone IOS, which is
triggered by a text message containing both arabic and english text.
Could be firmware hardwired in at the national competitor's factory, i.e. china.
Since security breaches are such money makers for people that
I track mileage, carefully. That doesn't work if you don't have
a constant fill point. Yes, it's tedious.
-- Jim
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I'm sure hoping so.
Six months ago I bought and installed a new clutch master
cylinder in a early '81 240D. The website didn't post the
manufacturer - so I took a chance, and lost. It was a TRW
with Lucas cast into the body - not a FTE or FAG.
A couple months ago the car started losing brake
If someone buys em, I can use the extra set of headlight doors.
Not Mine, etc.
Fred Moir.Lynn MA.Diesel preferred.
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Subject: 84 Mercedes Turbo Diesel
Date: Wed, 27 May 2015 22:31:39 +
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On May 27, 2015, at 8:21 PM, Mountain Man via Mercedes
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Kaleb wrote:
That is a steal
Shall I call on it - for you?
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On some of our vehicles the load varies wildly (truck!), so I
like to keep a close eye on mileage. It can help tame my wife's
lead foot. Also, sudden mileage drops can indicate something
that needs addressing.
I have always done it this way, my entire life. On the farm,
in college, since
Yep, and during this one's lifetime, chances are higher that it'll bend rods
or do other catastrophic things, but you'll never get Mr. MB to admit it.
They just changed names and kept makin' and sellin' 'em.
Wilton
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'Better snap it up.
Wilton
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That is a
Curly wrote:
Whole lotta action on the golf courses and extended vacations
Probably no more golf outings than other persons in that position in
this country?
As to Randy comments regarding his inability to get people to work
together for the benefit of the country - couldn't that be analyzed to
Pretty sure I'm not racist. I'm also pretty sure that I
would be very nervous in _any_ inner city situation, regardless
of the 'decor'! IMHO population density is the problem,
not color.
Urban Stupid is a sub-culture. Not sure why it appears to
be so attractive.
I'm _glad_ Obama has been
If I didn't have two running123 wagons I'd be all over this.
On Wed, May 27, 2015 at 7:06 PM, Fred Moir via Mercedes
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Not Mine, etc.
Fred Moir.Lynn MA.Diesel preferred.
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ATTABOY!
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Jim wrote:
Since the foaming is enough to prevent something like a
Kaleb wrote:
That is a steal
Shall I call on it - for you?
mao
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That is a steal
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http://chicago.craigslist.org/nwc/cto/5043396472.html
Rick
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Not Mine, etc.
Fred Moir.Lynn MA.Diesel preferred.
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fred.s...@yahoo.com forwarded you this from craigslist:
84 Mercedes Turbo Diesel
On 27/05/2015 4:42 PM, Mountain Man via Mercedes wrote:
RB wrote:
Unfortunately, he appears to have been all talk and very little action.
I think we could do a bit more introspection becuz I think our racism
is more than we suspect - I'm not racist.
Action not happening has been a function of
I don't think that is fair.
A whole lot of white people voted for him in order for him to get
into the office of president.
During the campaign he was a very good speaker.
He convinced a lot of people that he could get the job done.
Unfortunately, he appears to have been all talk and very
Curly wrote:
what does skin color have to do with incompetence?
Yes.
The incompetence seems to be a function of race, essentially. Examine it.
We could dialog about the issue, but I doubt we can. Race is more
explosive among citizens than politics so I suspect Dan to shove this
thread to halt.
Jim wrote:
Since the foaming is enough to prevent something like a
full gallon going in, I always de-foam and top off.
Andrew wrote:
Yeah, but it gets tedious doesn't it?
Fueling? Yes. Waiting a bit to get another 25+ miles of
range? No. I drive long miles [kilometers] so it's
On May 27, 2015 at 5:35 PM WILTON via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
Bends rods, too.
But these rodbender engines last a lifetime. Didn't ya read the ad?
Actually all mechanical devices last a lifetime, their lifetime of course.
Mitch.
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