Re: [MBZ] A replacement for wilt

2016-05-01 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes
It's white, it's local, and it at least gives a chance to test drive a W211. http://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-sale/vehicledetails.xhtml?listingId=399436580Xtra clean! Black interior.http://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-sale/vehicledetails.xhtml?listingId=426208898Service

Re: [MBZ] PAC Key Chart

2016-05-01 Thread Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes
You'll be disappointed to know that the ignition switch hasn't done much other than just send a few signals about its position since the W210. This switch you refer to doesn't exist anymore, keyless or not. Welcome to the future. (Of course, its easy to point out that millions of cars have been

Re: [MBZ] Subject: Re: 124 bites dust

2016-05-01 Thread Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes
I just got one of those in the UPS on Friday, have not opened it up yet, it was on special a week or so ago for $40some? I'll check the model, but it was whatever got good reviews in some survey I saw a coupla weeks ago, then there was a price drop on Amazon for a day. Mine is a "Black Box

Re: [MBZ] Temp vehicle for Wilton, and Dan-140-man-bait

2016-05-01 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Interior is rough, I’m betting it’s got PSE issues as the trunk isn’t cinched down in the proper position. Didn’t have time to run a sweeper in the interior. Would have to know more. Dan > On May 1, 2016, at 2:44 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes > wrote: > > 1999 S500,

Re: [MBZ] Get off Your Wallets, Boys

2016-05-01 Thread Mountain Man via Mercedes
--R wrote: > I always wanted a "Beauville" right after I got a "Nubira" Our insco listed it as "Beanville" which was fun. Explain "Nubira" - or is that banned? mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To

Re: [MBZ] Poor Man's KLIMA

2016-05-01 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
Yea I would not sell them for $10 especially when they probably would work fine after a resolder job Sent from my iPhone > On May 1, 2016, at 3:42 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes > wrote: > > They have a part of their website for selling cores. They didn't want any of

Re: [MBZ] PAC Key Chart

2016-05-01 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes
On May 1, 2016 at 1:57 PM Curly McLain via Mercedes wrote:Yep. If I ever have ta buy a push and pray car, It WILL get a battery disconnect that can be operated from the driver's seat.Run the fuel pump power in series with a dash switch. Mitch.

Re: [MBZ] Poor Man's KLIMA

2016-05-01 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Interesting. I just went to their web site and set up an account. I went in to “buy” the repair on my KLIMA and the process was just like buying a part. I’ll call them in the morning and see if that’s the case. The site description makes it sound like you have to send it in to them for

Re: [MBZ] Subject: Re: 124 bites dust

2016-05-01 Thread Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes
Mine was $53 on special last week or the week before, basically the same unit --R On 5/1/16 6:02 PM, WILTON via Mercedes wrote: 'Sounds good. I'll get something like that. Thanks. Wilt - Original Message - From: "G Mann via Mercedes" To: "Mercedes

Re: [MBZ] Get off Your Wallets, Boys

2016-05-01 Thread Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes
Yes, the well-known Daewoo Nubira --R On 5/1/16 6:22 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: A Nubira was a Daewoo model. Dan, who’s now deceased Mom’s last car was a Daewoo On May 1, 2016, at 6:11 PM, Mountain Man via Mercedes wrote: --R wrote: I always wanted a

Re: [MBZ] Poor Man's KLIMA

2016-05-01 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
They don’t list a core charge on their web site for mine, and since it’s a fairly rare one (only used on two models) I doubt they have cores available. http://www.programainc.com/product_detail.aspx?idproduct=143=4904= Since

Re: [MBZ] Get off Your Wallets, Boys

2016-05-01 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
Theres actually a place just around the corner from me that does too. They've always got a bunch of really nice cars around. I need to go introduce myself. They've got a Thing out there now that looks pretty sweet. -Curt From: Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes To:

Re: [MBZ] Earthquake page

2016-05-01 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
Yes, we have that page as one of the home tabs that opens every time we launch the browser. It will filter the results based on the area you are displaying, so we keep it zoomed in to north central OK. We like to see what the magnitude of the last quake we felt was and how far away it was. On

[MBZ] Poor Man's KLIMA

2016-05-01 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Since I want to send my KLIMA in to Programa for rebuilding and I can’t really be without AC (I could, but it would suck) I was looking into ways that people have “cheated” the KLIMA. There’s the jumper approach, which has the compressor running all of the time. Crude, but effective. Also

Re: [MBZ] Poor Man's KLIMA

2016-05-01 Thread Max Dillon via Mercedes
How much do they charge? New KLIMA relay for my '95 sedan is about $140 from the dealer. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '87 300TD '95 E300 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery

Re: [MBZ] Poor Man's KLIMA

2016-05-01 Thread Curly McLain via Mercedes
They have a part of their website for selling cores. They didn't want any of mine. I think the ACCIII climate control for 124, they paid $10 for, but only if it was perfect. I figured for $10, I will keep the ones I have as spares. Interesting. I just went to their web site and set up an

Re: [MBZ] Poor Man's KLIMA

2016-05-01 Thread Curly McLain via Mercedes
Interesting. I just went to their web site and set up an account. I went in to "buy" the repair on my KLIMA and the process was just like buying a part. I'll call them in the morning and see if that's the case. The site description makes it sound like you have to send it in to them for

Re: [MBZ] Poor Man's KLIMA

2016-05-01 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
New one from the dealer lists out at around $245, I think. That’s a little under $200 my cost. Mine is unique and only fits two W126 diesel models. It’s a fairly rare part. 0035452605 Programa charges $70 for a rebuild with a three year warranty. Dan > On May 1, 2016, at 4:29 PM, Max

Re: [MBZ] Get off Your Wallets, Boys

2016-05-01 Thread Mountain Man via Mercedes
Nice bench in front row - I had an orange one with bench front row, not 23-window. I rebuilt the engine, then bought 6.2L Beauville and gave VW to friend in CSpgs. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To

Re: [MBZ] Subject: Re: 124 bites dust

2016-05-01 Thread WILTON via Mercedes
'Sounds good. I'll get something like that. Thanks. Wilt - Original Message - From: "G Mann via Mercedes" To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Cc: "G Mann" Sent: Sunday, May 01, 2016 2:30 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Subject:

Re: [MBZ] Poor Man's KLIMA

2016-05-01 Thread WILTON via Mercedes
'Sounds like another ATTABOY! Wilt - Original Message - From: "Dan Penoff via Mercedes" To: "Mercedes List" Cc: "Dan Penoff" Sent: Sunday, May 01, 2016 3:54 PM Subject: [MBZ] Poor Man's KLIMA Since I want to send my

Re: [MBZ] Get off Your Wallets, Boys

2016-05-01 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Her’s could have been a Nubira, I don’t know. I stayed as far as I possibly could from it. My long suffering brother had to deal with it. Dan > On May 1, 2016, at 6:28 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes > wrote: > > Yes, the well-known Daewoo Nubira > > --R >

[MBZ] Scosche IPFMRDS FM Modulator for iPod

2016-05-01 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Just came across this in the garage - I used to use it in the former Frod Focus wagon - worked great, even had integration with the text display in the stock radio and charged the iPod/iPhone. Here are some references for fitment:

Re: [MBZ] Temp vehicle for Wilton, and Dan-140-man-bait

2016-05-01 Thread Max Dillon via Mercedes
Thanks, sounds very manageable (no computers / special diagnostic software). -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '87 300TD '95 E300 On May 1, 2016 8:47:27 PM EDT, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: >It’s the pneumatic pump that sits beneath the passenger side rear seat >that

[MBZ] Earthquake page

2016-05-01 Thread Craig McCluskey via Mercedes
http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/map/#{"feed"%3A"1day_m25"% 2C"search"%3Anull%2C"listFormat"%3A"default"%2C"sort"%3A"newest"% 2C"basemap"%3A"grayscale"%2C"autoUpdate"%3Atrue%2C"restrictListToMap"% 3Atrue%2C"timeZone"%3A"local"%2C"mapposition"%3A[[-85.83159098927688%

Re: [MBZ] Get off Your Wallets, Boys

2016-05-01 Thread Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes
I always wanted a "Beauville" right after I got a "Nubira" --R On 5/1/16 6:03 PM, Mountain Man via Mercedes wrote: Nice bench in front row - I had an orange one with bench front row, not 23-window. I rebuilt the engine, then bought 6.2L Beauville and gave VW to friend in CSpgs. mao

Re: [MBZ] Temp vehicle for Wilton, and Dan-140-man-bait

2016-05-01 Thread WILTON via Mercedes
Yep, 'been thinking something like that, too. Wilton - Original Message - From: "Max Dillon via Mercedes" To: "Mercedes" Cc: "Max Dillon" Sent: Sunday, May 01, 2016 2:44 PM Subject: [MBZ] Temp vehicle for Wilton,

Re: [MBZ] Temp vehicle for Wilton, and Dan-140-man-bait

2016-05-01 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
It’s the pneumatic pump that sits beneath the passenger side rear seat that provides vacuum and pressure for central locking, trunk closing and other stuff like lumbar bladders. Depends on what the issue is whether or not it’s expensive to fix. To be honest, most PSE pump failures are due to

Re: [MBZ] Poor Man's KLIMA

2016-05-01 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
I have never had to send one in to them to rebuild, I just have ordered them and they send them to me. I think they might have had a core charge maybe. Sent from my iPhone > On May 1, 2016, at 2:54 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes > wrote: > > Since I want to send my KLIMA

Re: [MBZ] Subject: Re: 124 bites dust

2016-05-01 Thread G Mann via Mercedes
Yes, that is exactly it.. Plus, I got the first 3 items that are in the "popup list" below that listing.. 32GB card, mirror mount, and Hard Wire Harness. The cam comes with a window suction cup mount, which works.. but the mirror mount removes window clutter nicely and puts the cam up out of the

Re: [MBZ] Get off Your Wallets, Boys

2016-05-01 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
A Nubira was a Daewoo model. Dan, who’s now deceased Mom’s last car was a Daewoo > On May 1, 2016, at 6:11 PM, Mountain Man via Mercedes > wrote: > > --R wrote: >> I always wanted a "Beauville" right after I got a "Nubira" > > Our insco listed it as "Beanville" which

Re: [MBZ] Get off Your Wallets, Boys

2016-05-01 Thread MG via Mercedes
For that kind of money he should have rebuilt it to 61 specs. The tail lights and front blinkers are from 67 if I remember correctly. It's also missing the rear hold down bolts for the middle seat and the trim piece that goes on the bottom front of the rear seat. He has the front fold open

Re: [MBZ] Temp vehicle for Wilton, and Dan-140-man-bait

2016-05-01 Thread Max Dillon via Mercedes
What does PSE stand for, and how expensive to fix it? -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '87 300TD '95 E300 On May 1, 2016 6:12:12 PM EDT, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: >Interior is rough, I’m betting it’s got PSE issues as the trunk isn’t >cinched down in the proper position.

Re: [MBZ] PAC Key Chart

2016-05-01 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
I was thinking the same way. Many Chrysler vehicles have acknowledged the same about the shifter, they use a dial now. I call it "dial a gear". I've driven a couple with it now and it doesn't really bother me. At first they were using it only on the top end vehicles but the Chrysler 200 I had a

Re: [MBZ] Stoopid

2016-05-01 Thread WILTON via Mercedes
Et vous avez une autre ATTABOY grande, aussi! Wilton - Original Message - From: "Jim Cathey via Mercedes" To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Cc: "Jim Cathey" Sent: Sunday, May 01, 2016 11:26 AM Subject: [MBZ]

Re: [MBZ] stereo

2016-05-01 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
Angie wants to get rid of my big Fisher speakers. I don't know the model, I got them in around '93 for a birthday present. With my Pioneer 2800 they'll shake the house. Someday when the kids across the street are really annoying me I'll put on "The Final Cut" and turn the speakers out the

[MBZ] Temp vehicle for Wilton, and Dan-140-man-bait

2016-05-01 Thread Max Dillon via Mercedes
1999 S500, $2500, 84k miles, looks decent. https://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/5548051605.html Buy this, drive it until you find your diesel, then flip it to Dan... -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '87 300TD '95 E300 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list

Re: [MBZ] Stereo

2016-05-01 Thread Jim Cathey via Mercedes
My first stereo, the Schenkendorff, wasn't much of a stereo, really. But it had SW/LW/MW/FM tuner and an eye tube. And it had a _gorgeous_ lighted glass and satin liquor cabinet in the other side of the case, if you like that sort of thing. The first piece of furniture my parents bought, in

Re: [MBZ] PAC Key Chart

2016-05-01 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
I was just thinking that you can always work around HAL by pulling the power to him. The master switch in aircraft activates a solenoid that connects the power from the battery. Nothing happens until you ground that coil wire. Such a solenoid could be installed in any vergasser I would think. If

[MBZ] Get off Your Wallets, Boys

2016-05-01 Thread Bob Rentfro via Mercedes
*http://tinyurl.com/gqxtsn3 * *Bob R* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:

Re: [MBZ] Subject: Re: 124 bites dust

2016-05-01 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
Is this it? http://www.amazon.com/Black-Box-G1W-CB-Capacitor-Dashboard/dp/B00P8F3LD0/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8=1462130075=8-1=Black+Box+G1W-CB+model On Sun, May 1, 2016 at 1:30 PM, G Mann via Mercedes wrote: > In the past week I took delivery of a new car camera. It has a

[MBZ] Stoopid

2016-05-01 Thread Jim Cathey via Mercedes
So it's spring-cleaning time, and the flat chiclet keyboard on this Mac Pro was pretty gross. Having learned from the mistake I made at work cleaning the grody keyboard upon our move to our shiny new digs, I was very careful to hold the keyboard upside down as I wiped down with a Windex'd rag...

Re: [MBZ] Stoopid

2016-05-01 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
Interesting, I've got a couple of those keyboards at work. Not fantastic but Apple has made some pretty lousy keyboards over the years. I keep 2 identical PC keyboards around. These were some a previous employer sold with our video editing systems, they've got colored key caps with shortcut

Re: [MBZ] 124 bites dust

2016-05-01 Thread Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes
Bummer. What's that they say about a good landing being any one you walk away from? Hopefully this is one step further toward everyone on this list running a dash cam. Think I'll be ordering a few today. Re: whiplash, the first thing your insurer would ask you is about any preexisting condition

Re: [MBZ] Get off Your Wallets, Boys

2016-05-01 Thread Max Dillon via Mercedes
I like those, but top speed is about fifty miles per hour. Maybe. Also absolutely no protection in a collision. No heat or AC. That price seems crazy high. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '87 300TD '95 E300 On May 1, 2016 12:25:47 PM EDT, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes wrote:

Re: [MBZ] PAC Key Chart

2016-05-01 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes
On May 1, 2016 at 8:26 AM Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes wrote:(Of course, its easy to point out that millions of cars have been made withthis system and its been well proven to be reliable. Not to mention howdifficult it is to steal a car with a modern security system.)Not

Re: [MBZ] stereo

2016-05-01 Thread Jim Cathey via Mercedes
Someday when the kids across the street are really annoying me I'll put on "The Final Cut" and turn the speakers out the windows. What, you've not seen "Mars Attacks?" I've got my Slim Whitman vinyl all ready, for national (or local) emergency use. I bet that'd make the little rap-scallions'

Re: [MBZ] stereo

2016-05-01 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
As the aliens say in "When Mars Attacks", "nack, nack - nck." On Sun, May 1, 2016 at 12:55 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > I had a professor in kawledge at Purdue, before I went to MIT, who had > gone all the way through MIT getting his PhD in

Re: [MBZ] PAC Key Chart

2016-05-01 Thread Curly McLain via Mercedes
And how expensive the keys have gotten. VW wants around $200 for a key for my '05 Golf. Fortunately the aftermarket can handle the Gen IV VWs, I got 2 keys online for $60, the borrowed a programmer to get them to start my car. There should ALWAYS be a way to remove the security system,

Re: [MBZ] PAC Key Chart

2016-05-01 Thread Curly McLain via Mercedes
Yep. If I ever have ta buy a push and pray car, It WILL get a battery disconnect that can be operated from the driver's seat. Yes, the common rail dissels can't run without electrons. One of the reasons I am avoiding them. My OM61x and OM60x engines will keep running with or without

Re: [MBZ] PAC Key Chart

2016-05-01 Thread Curly McLain via Mercedes
When the unintended acceleration thing kept coming up with Toyota the thing they said was "Press and HOLD the start button for an emergency shutdown." I tried that in the Chrysler 200, no-shutdown. It did beep at me, perhaps I needed to wait longer and let it beep more... -Curt Yeah, right!

Re: [MBZ] Subject: Re: 124 bites dust

2016-05-01 Thread G Mann via Mercedes
In the past week I took delivery of a new car camera. It has a mount that attaches to the stem of the rear view mirror and a couple power options. One is a cig lighter plug.. the other is a hard wire for "key on operation" which kicks up the camera any time key is on. After driving in the city a

Re: [MBZ] Stoopid

2016-05-01 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes
Yep, that's Apple, specializing in form over cooling/dependability, upgrade-ability, and maintenance/ repair. With the exception of "smart" phones, I'll take something built for the long haul over something designed by Apple. If I'm going to do something silly like carry a "smart" phone, I'll

Re: [MBZ] PAC Key Chart

2016-05-01 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
And how expensive the keys have gotten. VW wants around $200 for a key for my '05 Golf. Fortunately the aftermarket can handle the Gen IV VWs, I got 2 keys online for $60, the borrowed a programmer to get them to start my car. There should ALWAYS be a way to remove the security system, anything

[MBZ] It's Baaaaaack

2016-05-01 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
http://tampa.craigslist.org/hil/cto/5565262603.html Tried to talk to the owner last time they listed the car, got little or nothing of value out of them. Car has not been cared for from what I can see. I asked when it had been repainted

Re: [MBZ] It's Baaaaaack

2016-05-01 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
The engine delivers its power through wheels! On Sun, May 1, 2016 at 1:11 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > http://tampa.craigslist.org/hil/cto/5565262603.html < > http://tampa.craigslist.org/hil/cto/5565262603.html> > > Tried to talk to the owner last time they

Re: [MBZ] It's Baaaaaack

2016-05-01 Thread Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes
Its a rear wheel drive vehicle, with the engine positioned in the front powered courtesy of a turbocharged engine of 3 litre capacity. Litres! --R On 5/1/16 1:24 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote: The engine delivers its power through wheels! On Sun, May 1, 2016 at 1:11 PM, Dan

Re: [MBZ] PAC Key Chart

2016-05-01 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
When the unintended acceleration thing kept coming up with Toyota the thing they said was "Press and HOLD the start button for an emergency shutdown." I tried that in the Chrysler 200, no-shutdown. It did beep at me, perhaps I needed to wait longer and let it beep more... -Curt From: OK

Re: [MBZ] stereo

2016-05-01 Thread Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes
I had a professor in kawledge at Purdue, before I went to MIT, who had gone all the way through MIT getting his PhD in Aero/Astro. He told me when he found out I was going to MIT that he had lived on the top floor of a frat house right on Memorial Drive along the Charles River on the

Re: [MBZ] Get off Your Wallets, Boys

2016-05-01 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
What a load of cr*p. It has been CONVERTED to a 23 window bus, losing its originality. On Sun, May 1, 2016 at 12:25 PM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > *http://tinyurl.com/gqxtsn3 * > > *Bob R* > ___ >

[MBZ] Subject: Re: 124 bites dust

2016-05-01 Thread Bob via Mercedes
Yep, seems like the other driver was on on phone or severely distracted by something Have the police search phone records for proof that he WAS distracted... can be done Bob ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives

Re: [MBZ] Stoopid

2016-05-01 Thread Max Dillon via Mercedes
Isopropyl alcohol would have made a better bath, or maybe as a rinse after the soap/water. Alcohol would help prevent corrosion. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '87 300TD '95 E300 On May 1, 2016 11:26:33 AM EDT, Jim Cathey via Mercedes wrote: >So it's spring-cleaning time,

Re: [MBZ] Get off Your Wallets, Boys

2016-05-01 Thread Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes
There's a guy not far from over on Wadmalaw Island that fixes these things up and sells them. He always has a bunch of beaters around but turns them into fairly nice rides. I guess he makes some money at it. --R On 5/1/16 2:17 PM, G Mann via Mercedes wrote: $95,000.00 and no giant crack

Re: [MBZ] A replacement for wilt

2016-05-01 Thread WILTON via Mercedes
Yep, not far away. I'll try to check it out. Lota miles on it. 'Hoping to find one with 100kmi less. Thanks. Wilt - Original Message - From: Mitch Haley via Mercedes To: Mercedes Discussion List Cc: Mitch Haley Sent: Sunday, May 01, 2016 7:30 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] A

Re: [MBZ] stereo

2016-05-01 Thread Curly McLain via Mercedes
In the 1972 Pioneer catalog, the SX2500 is in the left column, and to its right is the SX626. I bought my 626 at the end of 71 or the first of 72. it needs some deoxit in the knobs, and some light bubs, bit it works great. They are contemporaries. have a Pioneer SX-525 (I think) I

Re: [MBZ] A replacement for wilt

2016-05-01 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes
Silk Beige over Polar White. It's the right color, but has hole in the roof. Sunroof is optional, but I doubt you'll easily find one without it. http://www.mercedesbenzraleigh.com/new-Raleigh+-2016-Mercedes+Benz-+-4dr+Sdn+E250+BlueTEC+Sport+RWD-WDDHF0EB6GB217147

Re: [MBZ] 124 bites dust

2016-05-01 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes
Now there's a way to get a car in showroom condition. http://www.edmunds.com/mercedes-benz/e-class/2015/?sub=diesel="">http://www.edmunds.com/mercedes-benz/e-class/2016/?sub=diesel="">On April 30, 2016 at 10:00 PM "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes" wrote:Yes you are very

Re: [MBZ] 124 bites dust

2016-05-01 Thread Peter Frederick via Mercedes
No, you would have just been shaken up good. I got hit square in the driver's door by a Chevy 3500 series van doing 60, had to have weighed at least 7000 lbs. Headlight right at the seat back, full impact to up to the front of the car. I walked away -- slightly crooked, but walking.

Re: [MBZ] 124 bites dust

2016-05-01 Thread WILTON via Mercedes
Yep, seems like the other driver was on on phone or severely distracted by something. Wilt - Original Message - From: "Curly McLain via Mercedes" To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Cc: "Curly McLain" <126die...@gmail.com> Sent: Sunday, May

Re: [MBZ] 124 bites dust

2016-05-01 Thread Curly McLain via Mercedes
No, you would have just been shaken up good. I got hit square in the driver's door by a Chevy 3500 series van doing 60, had to have weighed at least 7000 lbs. Headlight right at the seat back, full impact to up to the front of the car. I walked away -- slightly crooked, but walking.

Re: [MBZ] stereo

2016-05-01 Thread Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes
I have a Pioneer SX-525 (I think) I bought in 1973 in college that still works except one channel has had a crackle in it for like 35 years, and my large Advents I got with it are still cranking away with a re-coning about 20 years ago (they are lease-breakers if you crank them up). The rcvr

Re: [MBZ] Temp vehicle for Wilton, and Dan-140-man-bait

2016-05-01 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
And the M119 is pretty darned bulletproof. I’ve always been a little gun shy of the MB V8s after having an M117 crater on me, but the M119 is built like a brick doghouse. I’ve got one that approaching 300k and one that was around 275k and neither has ever given me a bit of trouble. The 300k

Re: [MBZ] Temp vehicle for Wilton, and Dan-140-man-bait

2016-05-01 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
I don’t think so. They have a propensity to munch cams if the oiler tubes aren’t cared for, so a high mileage example should probably have the valve covers pulled and the cams and oilers inspected for wear/damage. If you have to pull a head you may have to have the holes drilled and

Re: [MBZ] Temp vehicle for Wilton, and Dan-140-man-bait

2016-05-01 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
It was a 420SEL. I thought it was an M117, but it’s been over 15 years I’ve been trying to forget about it… Dan > On May 1, 2016, at 9:39 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes > wrote: > > The 420 has the 116, smaller displacement but otherwise the same engine > >

Re: [MBZ] Temp vehicle for Wilton, and Dan-140-man-bait

2016-05-01 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
Yes. 4.2 is 116, the 4.5 and 5.6 is 117 Sent from my iPhone > On May 1, 2016, at 8:46 PM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes > wrote: > > In 1989? > > Dwight Giles Jr. > 1982 300CD > 1990 300D > Wickford RI > On May 1, 2016 9:39 PM, "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes" < >

Re: [MBZ] Temp vehicle for Wilton, and Dan-140-man-bait

2016-05-01 Thread Jim Cathey via Mercedes
The 380SL we had felt like it had plenty of power to me. At least, when it was running right. Sure, not nearly as much as a 560, but not bad at all. Way more satisfactory power-wise than the 450. The 4-speed tranny might have helped. I am not sure you could change spark plugs without pulling

Re: [MBZ] PAC Key Chart

2016-05-01 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
Hahaha. Tell them they will go out of business by years end unless they bring back 123s also. Sent from my iPhone > On May 1, 2016, at 8:12 PM, Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes > wrote: > > I'll be sure the let the management know what you guys think first thing >

Re: [MBZ] Temp vehicle for Wilton, and Dan-140-man-bait

2016-05-01 Thread Dwight Giles via Mercedes
In 1989? Dwight Giles Jr. 1982 300CD 1990 300D Wickford RI On May 1, 2016 9:39 PM, "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes" < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > The 420 has the 116, smaller displacement but otherwise the same engine > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On May 1, 2016, at 8:29 PM, Dwight Giles via

Re: [MBZ] 124 bites dust

2016-05-01 Thread clay via Mercedes
I would say no Benz between 1995 and 2007 is worth adding to the stable.I am so unimpressed with the quality, and what I see in the PnP backs it up. Even the auction yards are passing on these cars. clay 2002 s430 - Victor, a Stately & well tailored chap 1974 450sl - Frosch - Two

Re: [MBZ] Temp vehicle for Wilton, and Dan-140-man-bait

2016-05-01 Thread Curly McLain via Mercedes
The only MB v-8 I've touched or driven is the m116 in the 380SL I'm thinking repowering a 380SL with the 4.2L M116 from a 126 would be an improvement. the 126 could them be repowered with a OM603. I'm talking about 126 Lwb cars. Not sure about 107 Sent from my iPhone On May 1, 2016, at

Re: [MBZ] Temp vehicle for Wilton, and Dan-140-man-bait

2016-05-01 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
It's just the electric vacuum pump and system. Sent from my iPhone > On May 1, 2016, at 7:31 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes > wrote: > > What does PSE stand for, and how expensive to fix it? > -- > Max Dillon > Charleston SC > '87 300TD > '95 E300 > >> On May 1, 2016

Re: [MBZ] Temp vehicle for Wilton, and Dan-140-man-bait

2016-05-01 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
I don't find anything with the 140s too difficult to work on. Sent from my iPhone > On May 1, 2016, at 8:10 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes > wrote: > > To be honest, while having access to a DAS/Xentry system is helpful when > troubleshooting these cars, it’s certainly

Re: [MBZ] Temp vehicle for Wilton, and Dan-140-man-bait

2016-05-01 Thread Dwight Giles via Mercedes
So Dan, I have been looking at an 89 420SEL. Should I avoid it because of the m117? Dwight Giles Jr. 1982 300CD 1990 300D Wickford RI On May 1, 2016 9:21 PM, "Dan Penoff via Mercedes" wrote: > And the M119 is pretty darned bulletproof. I’ve always been a little gun > shy

Re: [MBZ] Temp vehicle for Wilton, and Dan-140-man-bait

2016-05-01 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
The 420 has the 116, smaller displacement but otherwise the same engine Sent from my iPhone > On May 1, 2016, at 8:29 PM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes > wrote: > > So Dan, > I have been looking at an 89 420SEL. Should I avoid it because of the m117? > > Dwight Giles Jr.

Re: [MBZ] Temp vehicle for Wilton, and Dan-140-man-bait

2016-05-01 Thread Dwight Giles via Mercedes
Thanks Dan. This one has 100k miles. Dwight Giles Jr. 1982 300CD 1990 300D Wickford RI On May 1, 2016 9:37 PM, "Dan Penoff via Mercedes" wrote: > I don’t think so. They have a propensity to munch cams if the oiler tubes > aren’t cared for, so a high mileage example

Re: [MBZ] Temp vehicle for Wilton, and Dan-140-man-bait

2016-05-01 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
A 117 cratered? That is odd as those engines are pretty bullet proof also except for needing timing chains at about 130k. Sent from my iPhone > On May 1, 2016, at 8:21 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes > wrote: > > And the M119 is pretty darned bulletproof. I’ve always been

Re: [MBZ] Temp vehicle for Wilton, and Dan-140-man-bait

2016-05-01 Thread Dwight Giles via Mercedes
Anything to be concerned about a M116 with 100k miles? Dwight Giles Jr. 1982 300CD 1990 300D Wickford RI On May 1, 2016 9:52 PM, "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes" < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: Yes. 4.2 is 116, the 4.5 and 5.6 is 117 Sent from my iPhone > On May 1, 2016, at 8:46 PM, Dwight

Re: [MBZ] Temp vehicle for Wilton, and Dan-140-man-bait

2016-05-01 Thread Curly McLain via Mercedes
Cheep paké Prastic timing chain guides IF they were not already replaced. Not terribly expensive, but takes a day or two. Helps to have a shop loan you the tool that guides the new chain in, unless you have someone available to turn the engine while you do that. I'd change the chain at the

Re: [MBZ] Temp vehicle for Wilton, and Dan-140-man-bait

2016-05-01 Thread Curly McLain via Mercedes
Even though they are the same the 117 seems to not have those issues like the 116 for some reason. The 420 feels like a diesel compared to a 560. How do you mean that "feels like a diesel?" are you saying it is noisy? That the 420 is more torquey? or that the 560 has way more power? Or

[MBZ] Sold the SL

2016-05-01 Thread clay via Mercedes
Mercedes-Benz: SL-Class 450SL This was an interesting sale. The winning bidder made a cheater deal with the owner of the 1974 SL I was selling on CL. He had contacted me in March to take a look at the above car, but flaked. Last week he shows up at my Indy claiming to not know me and that

Re: [MBZ] Temp vehicle for Wilton, and Dan-140-man-bait

2016-05-01 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
The 560 has way more power compared to the 420. If you drive a 560 then jump in a 420 you will see what I mean. Sent from my iPhone On May 1, 2016, at 9:21 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes wrote: >> Even though they are the same the 117 seems to not have those issues like

Re: [MBZ] Temp vehicle for Wilton, and Dan-140-man-bait

2016-05-01 Thread Curly McLain via Mercedes
The 560 has way more power compared to the 420. If you drive a 560 then jump in a 420 you will see what I mean. M116 in a 107 is tight, but mostly serviceable. one plug is nearly unaccessible. I looked at one 560SL and the M117 was so tight in there I am not sure you could change spark

Re: [MBZ] Temp vehicle for Wilton, and Dan-140-man-bait

2016-05-01 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
To be honest, while having access to a DAS/Xentry system is helpful when troubleshooting these cars, it’s certainly not required. Nearly everything can be diagnosed through basic troubleshooting and onboard diagnostics. While there are a lot of electronics on the W140, it’s all military grade

Re: [MBZ] PAC Key Chart

2016-05-01 Thread Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes
I'll be sure the let the management know what you guys think first thing tomorrow morning. On Sun, May 1, 2016 at 2:09 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > And how expensive the keys have gotten. VW wants around $200 for a key for >> my '05 Golf. Fortunately the

Re: [MBZ] Temp vehicle for Wilton, and Dan-140-man-bait

2016-05-01 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
Even though they are the same the 117 seems to not have those issues like the 116 for some reason. The 420 feels like a diesel compared to a 560. Sent from my iPhone > On May 1, 2016, at 8:43 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes > wrote: > > It was a 420SEL. I thought it was

Re: [MBZ] Temp vehicle for Wilton, and Dan-140-man-bait

2016-05-01 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
Unless there is documentation otherwise I would go ahead and replace the chain and tensioner. Inspect guide rails and oiler tubes while there. Sent from my iPhone > On May 1, 2016, at 9:04 PM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes > wrote: > > Anything to be concerned about a

Re: [MBZ] Sold the SL

2016-05-01 Thread clay via Mercedes
http://www.ebay.com/itm/291747507440?forcerRptr=true=291747507440==ADME:L:EOISSA:MOTORS:1123 On May 1, 2016, at 7:29 PM, clay via Mercedes wrote: > Mercedes-Benz: SL-Class 450SL > > This was an interesting sale. The winning bidder made a cheater deal with > the owner of the 1974 SL I was

Re: [MBZ] Temp vehicle for Wilton, and Dan-140-man-bait

2016-05-01 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
I'm talking about 126 Lwb cars. Not sure about 107 Sent from my iPhone On May 1, 2016, at 10:40 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes wrote: >> The 560 has way more power compared to the 420. If you drive a 560 then jump >> in a 420 you will see what I mean. > > M116 in a 107