Re: [MBZ] C107 Values

2020-02-06 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Ahh, now we’re picking nits. Even a brown 230SL with a slushbox commands high dollars. -D > On Feb 5, 2020, at 10:44 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote: > > Bad color, bad model year. > > On Wed, Feb 5, 2020 at 7:59 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes > wrote: > I rest my

Re: [MBZ] Running w124 300D with failed alternator?

2020-02-06 Thread Meade Dillon via Mercedes
Curly - the OM602 used a "different" waste gate controller on the turbo, it was vacuum controlled and there was some interplay via the nannies such that defeating the EGR required fooling the nannies else they shut off the boost to the engine. In other words, not purely mechanical operation of

Re: [MBZ] OT: Banned in Britain

2020-02-06 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
The Boy Scout camp I went to is still there and largely unchanged from when I was there 25 years ago. I just scoped it out on Google maps and while there are more buildings than when I was there they still have the same campsites with platforms for wall tents. Probably still have outhouses

[MBZ] OT old wind machines blades

2020-02-06 Thread Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes
An interesting externality of “no-carbon” energy production https://www.bloomberg.com/news/features/2020-02-05/wind-turbine-blades-can-t-be-recycled-so-they-re-piling-up-in-landfills --FT Sent from iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives

Re: [MBZ] OT old wind machines blades

2020-02-06 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
Funny how "displaced emissions" stuff ends up causing emissions in other places.    "Ain't no free lunch" all the feel good EV and windmills and solar panels create a lot of displaced emissions in other places and in other ways. Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes

Re: [MBZ] Running w124 300D with failed alternator?

2020-02-06 Thread Rick Knoble via Mercedes
Dave Mieman has a write up for changing the wastegate on one of the online forums. Peach parts perhaps. Rick   Original Message   From: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: February 6, 2020 10:07 AM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Reply-to: mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: 126die...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [MBZ]

Re: [MBZ] OT: Banned in Britain

2020-02-06 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
not much.   Ferguson MO provides a glimpse of what happens when civilization breaks down.  First looting, burning and shooting; then starvation.   In big cities, the food runs out after a few days.  Then the looting will start. Boy Scouts have been under attack for almost 50 years.   I heard

Re: [MBZ] Running w124 300D with failed alternator?

2020-02-06 Thread Meade Dillon via Mercedes
I don't know for sure, but I think I've heard / read talk about doing that or similar: swapping in a pressure-controlled waste gate. - Max Charleston SC On Thu, Feb 6, 2020 at 11:07 AM Curley McLain via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > yeah, I forgot about that change. I

Re: [MBZ] OT old wind machines blades

2020-02-06 Thread Max Dillon via Mercedes
Dump them at Sea, make artificial reefs to replace the natural reefs killed by Trump. Max Dillon Charleston SC Feb 6, 2020 8:40:29 AM Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes : > An interesting externality of “no-carbon” energy production > >

Re: [MBZ] Running w124 300D with failed alternator?

2020-02-06 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
yeah, I forgot about that change.   I will have to learn about it.   I know there are a bunch of vacuum pods on the 300D 2.5 EGR.    If you change the turbo to an OM603 turbo, could you then delete the egr? Meade Dillon via Mercedes February 6, 2020 at 6:04 AM

Re: [MBZ] Running w124 300D with failed alternator?

2020-02-06 Thread Jim Cathey via Mercedes
You might pull a few fuses, to ensure parasitic loads don't deplete the battery, saving it for brake lights, windshield wiper. Fuses like clock/radio, HVAC, ABS, etc. If this car has an electric monovalve, it's drawing power to keep the heat off. (The W201 has a vacuum-operated blend flap, not

Re: [MBZ] OT old wind machines blades

2020-02-06 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
Interesting idea.  I'm checking with my buddy to see if that might work or if they would leach toxic materials --FT On 2/6/20 9:44 AM, Max Dillon via Mercedes wrote: Dump them at Sea, make artificial reefs to replace the natural reefs killed by Trump. Max Dillon Charleston SC Feb 6, 2020

Re: [MBZ] OT old wind machines blades

2020-02-06 Thread Meade Dillon via Mercedes
Maybe they float well enough that all you need is a tug boat to pull them into position, then punch a hole on both ends to let water in and air out. I think a caliber around 0.50" would work nicely. Might be a win-win. - Max Charleston SC On Thu, Feb 6, 2020 at 10:39 AM Floyd

Re: [MBZ] Running w124 300D with failed alternator?

2020-02-06 Thread Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes
Good idea about jump starting the car! Sent from my iPhone > On Feb 6, 2020, at 10:08 AM, Jim Cathey wrote: > > You might pull a few fuses, to ensure parasitic loads don't deplete the > battery, > saving it for brake lights, windshield wiper. Fuses like clock/radio, HVAC, > ABS, > etc. If

Re: [MBZ] OT old wind machines blades

2020-02-06 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
Thats what I meant, BB is the size of shot we use on geese. I'm not sure how big you can get in steel, BB is the biggest I've ever seen. You could use bismuth too, its heavier than steel, more expensive though, about $17/lb. -Curt On Thursday, February 6, 2020, 11:55:14 AM EST, Craig via

Re: [MBZ] Running w124 300D with failed alternator?

2020-02-06 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
We did that a lot when our Super M was still 6v. Since we did the 12v conversion we've had zero problems. Shoulda done the 12v conversion years before. -Curt On Thursday, February 6, 2020, 11:44:19 AM EST, Curley McLain via Mercedes wrote: one battery should be fine.   I ran my

Re: [MBZ] OT old wind machines blades

2020-02-06 Thread Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes
Those things are thick and tough. The .50 idea makes sense. I think shot would just bounce off --FT Sent from iPhone > On Feb 6, 2020, at 1:47 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes > wrote: > >  Thats what I meant, BB is the size of shot we use on geese. I'm not sure > how big you can get in

Re: [MBZ] Running w124 300D with failed alternator?

2020-02-06 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
I'd like to have a mag, but this one came out with a coil.   Our 39 and 41 H's had mags, as did my R50/2 (german content) an I loved being able to start and run them with no battery.   The shaft between the crank and engine on mine has been rusted solid for years.  I keep soaking it but it is

Re: [MBZ] ***SPAM*** RE: Running w124 300D with failed alternator?

2020-02-06 Thread Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes
Another good suggestion. Anyone know if it takes a group 49? Sent from my iPhone > On Feb 6, 2020, at 1:08 PM, Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes > wrote: > > Why not carry an extra, fully charged battery for insurance? Along with tools > to change them if necessary. > > Greg > > P.S. My son

Re: [MBZ] C107 Values

2020-02-06 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Brown generally takes away rather than adds value, although there are some who may like it. On Thu, Feb 6, 2020 at 5:08 AM Dan Penoff via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Ahh, now we’re picking nits. Even a brown 230SL with a slushbox commands > high dollars. > > -D > > > > > On Feb 5,

Re: [MBZ] ***SPAM*** RE: Running w124 300D with failed alternator?

2020-02-06 Thread Meade Dillon via Mercedes
It should, my 87 and 95 diesels do, as does my 94 gasser. - Max Charleston SC On Thu, Feb 6, 2020 at 2:24 PM Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Another good suggestion. Anyone know if it takes a group 49? > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Feb 6, 2020, at

Re: [MBZ] Running w124 300D with failed alternator?

2020-02-06 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
Could you wire a battery to a 12v adapter to back feed through the 12v socket in the car? You could have 2 batteries for the price of one. With one battery you *should* be fine. With 2 batteries you will be fine... -Curt On Thursday, February 6, 2020, 10:09:27 AM EST, Jim Cathey via

Re: [MBZ] Running w124 300D with failed alternator?

2020-02-06 Thread Craig via Mercedes
On Thu, 6 Feb 2020 16:35:12 + (UTC) Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote: > Could you wire a battery to a 12v adapter to back feed through the 12v > socket in the car? You could have 2 batteries for the price of one. Yes, you could do that. Craig ___

Re: [MBZ] Running w124 300D with failed alternator?

2020-02-06 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
A magneto Farmall didn't need a battery at all if you hand cranked. 12v conversion was the best thing we ever did, especially for a machine that doesn't see a whole lot of use. We were going through a 6v battery every 3 years or so, I think we're at 4 years on the 12v battery. It also really

[MBZ] The Good Kids: Was OT: Banned in Britain

2020-02-06 Thread Michael Esh via Mercedes
My son who is now 21 and applying for Med school, which will not be easy as he a white male, was a scout from age 6 through 16. Although he wanted to quit several times through the years he stuck it out ended up as an Eagle Scout. We are very proud if him. There are many success stories

Re: [MBZ] The Good Kids: Was OT: Banned in Britain

2020-02-06 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
Truth! We tend to remember bad things instead of the good. People have been complaining about previous generations back into the mists of time. -Curt On Thursday, February 6, 2020, 2:28:53 PM EST, Michael Esh via Mercedes wrote: My son who is now 21 and applying for Med school, which

Re: [MBZ] OT old wind machines blades

2020-02-06 Thread Craig via Mercedes
On Thu, 6 Feb 2020 16:36:10 + (UTC) Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote: > Now now, you can't go shooting lead bullets into the water. A couple > of blasts of steel BB should do the job just as well and protect > aquatic waterfowl. ;) -Curt Well, how about a blast from a 12- or 10-gauge

Re: [MBZ] Running w124 300D with failed alternator?

2020-02-06 Thread Allan Streib via Mercedes
Curley McLain via Mercedes writes: > Should make the trip. THe EDC should be the only draw, and if that > croaks the battery, the car will still run.  Congrats. Yes but you also won't have brake lights or turn signals. Could be hazardous. I'm guessing that would not happen in just 90 minutes

Re: [MBZ] Running w124 300D with failed alternator?

2020-02-06 Thread Jim Cathey via Mercedes
> I ran my Farmall H for years with non-functioning generator. I could run it > all day, then charge it over night and run it all day again the next day on a > group 49 battery borrowed from an MB. So your Farmall was converted to 12V? Ours is 6V. The only power drain on those is the

Re: [MBZ] OT old wind machines blades

2020-02-06 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
If you are serious about building reefs, you'd drill holes in the blades, run cables through them to build triangular stacks, then take them out and sink em in place. Sections of the blades might make good target holders.   Anyone know if they are foam filled?   Maybe you could cut 8-9'

[MBZ] ***SPAM*** RE: Running w124 300D with failed alternator?

2020-02-06 Thread Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes
Why not carry an extra, fully charged battery for insurance? Along with tools to change them if necessary. Greg P.S. My son drove an '80 240D from Austin to Vancouver with no alt. -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Dimitri Seretakis

Re: [MBZ] OT old wind machines blades

2020-02-06 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
Now now, you can't go shooting lead bullets into the water. A couple of blasts of steel BB should do the job just as well and protect aquatic waterfowl. ;) -Curt On Thursday, February 6, 2020, 10:48:42 AM EST, Meade Dillon via Mercedes wrote: Maybe they float well enough that all you

Re: [MBZ] Running w124 300D with failed alternator?

2020-02-06 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
one battery should be fine.   I ran my Farmall H for years with non-functioning generator.   I could run it all day, then charge it over night and run it all day again the next day on a group 49 battery borrowed from an MB. Curt Raymond via Mercedes February 6,

Re: [MBZ] Nice Kleb Car

2020-02-06 Thread Kevin Kraly via Mercedes
I don’t smoke, and I wouldn’t want to lick the engine in my 240D since it’s oily!!! OTOH, if you have a taste for oil, I need my engine cleaned! I’m going to finish the engine mounts today since I now have a u-joint extension for easier accessibility of the top bolts. Kevin in Hillsboro, OR 2019

Re: [MBZ] Nice Kleb Car

2020-02-06 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Only if you fly me out there for a week... On Thu, Feb 6, 2020 at 1:06 PM Kevin Kraly via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > I don’t smoke, and I wouldn’t want to lick the engine in my 240D since > it’s oily!!! OTOH, if you have a taste for oil, I need my engine cleaned! > I’m going to

Re: [MBZ] ***SPAM*** RE: Running w124 300D with failed alternator?

2020-02-06 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
Yes  Group 49 Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes February 6, 2020 at 1:23 PM Another good suggestion. Anyone know if it takes a group 49? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To

Re: [MBZ] The Good Kids: Was OT: Banned in Britain

2020-02-06 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
Congrats to him and to you as parents.   In general, Eagle Scouts are fine citizens.  In the 90s couple in our troop were pushed through by overly pushy parents.  The kid was not motivated.   Unfortunately, that is more the norm now than it was in my time.    My son was motivated.  I helped

Re: [MBZ] OT old wind machines blades

2020-02-06 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
They have to be pretty lightweight yet strong enough to withstand hurricane force winds. On Thu, Feb 6, 2020 at 2:07 PM Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Those things are thick and tough. The .50 idea makes sense. I think shot > would just bounce off > > --FT >

Re: [MBZ] OT old wind machines blades

2020-02-06 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes
Yes, isn't it amazing how well they do? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nemy4TD4I3A On 06/02/2020 3:07 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote: They have to be pretty lightweight yet strong enough to withstand hurricane force winds. ___

[MBZ] OT - 1950s Cultural Question

2020-02-06 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
As I’m just a touch younger than would have been necessary to directly experience it, I’m wondering if any of our slightly older members might want to offer their observations regarding something that has always stuck in the back of my mind…. Here’s the deal: When I have watched television

Re: [MBZ] OT old wind machines blades

2020-02-06 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
This is done manually by certified techs, who scale the towers carrying a special feathering tool when wind speeds approach 60 mph. On Thu, Feb 6, 2020 at 8:53 PM Curley McLain via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > they SHOULD be feathered in high wind. otherwise they break. > > >

Re: [MBZ] OT - 1950s Cultural Question

2020-02-06 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
I know for sure most insurance bidness was conducted in the evenings when folks were home. SWMBO remembers the ins agent coming in the evening, and I do too. Family businesses were available when the people were.   We were "Open" whenever someone drove in.   After my grandparents died, my

Re: [MBZ] OT old wind machines blades

2020-02-06 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
they SHOULD be feathered in high wind.  otherwise they break. Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes February 6, 2020 at 3:07 PM They have to be pretty lightweight yet strong enough to withstand hurricane force winds. ___

Re: [MBZ] OT - 1950s Cultural Question

2020-02-06 Thread M. Mitchell Marmel via Mercedes
Hell, in Philly a lot of stores didn't even open on Sunday, and bars closed down by 1 AM. Blue laws, don'chew know. That didn't change until the late 70s, when the courts struck most of the blue laws down. -MMM- ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list

Re: [MBZ] Hildegard’s DIRTY little secrets (1982 240D

2020-02-06 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
Small vice grips.   Clamp em on hard then turn.   Alternately, I have a set of Irwin external nut/bolt extractors that work really well for axle bolts that some dork has coated with loktite. https://www.irwin.com/tools/browse/screw-bolt-extractors/bolt-extractors BTDT. Kevin Kraly via

Re: [MBZ] ***SPAM*** RE: Running w124 300D with failed alternator?

2020-02-06 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
I bought one of those off Amazon, it's kind of interesting to watch. It's how I detected the ASV alternator not charging. It'd be interesting to know how long that's been the case before I bothered to look... Curt Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android On Thu, Feb 6, 2020 at 3:20 PM, Greg

Re: [MBZ] ***SPAM*** RE: Running w124 300D with failed alternator?

2020-02-06 Thread Michael Esh via Mercedes
The last radio/cd player I bought has a voltmeter as one of the options in the display. https://www.crutchfield.com/p_158XB120BT/Sony-MEX-XB120BT-CD-Receiver.html > On Feb 6, 2020, at 8:11 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes > wrote: > > I bought one of those off Amazon, it's kind of

Re: [MBZ] OT - 1950s Cultural Question

2020-02-06 Thread Craig via Mercedes
On Thu, 6 Feb 2020 17:48:34 -0500 Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: > Was this truly the case? Did business people conduct business or > meetings in the evenings, that is, things that we might find typical to > do during the “normal” business day? > > I’ve often opined as to whether or not this

Re: [MBZ] OT - 1950s Cultural Question

2020-02-06 Thread Dwight Giles via Mercedes
I don't know but i grew up in the country so we milked cows, ate dinner, went to bed & got up very early to milk the cows again. Dwight Giles Jr. Wickford RI On Thu, Feb 6, 2020, 7:06 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: > To clarify, it wasn’t just on Perry Mason I have seen this - it’s been on

[MBZ] OT - 1950s Cultural Question

2020-02-06 Thread ROGER HALE via Mercedes
Dan, My view might be different as I grew up in the country and somewhat close to "smaller" big cities (no NY or LA). It was my experience that if you didn't show by 5:00PM you were out of luck. In the 60's grocery and some other businesses started staying open to 6, 7, 8, and finally 9:00PM

Re: [MBZ] ***SPAM*** RE: Running w124 300D with failed alternator?

2020-02-06 Thread Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes
Maybe stick a little digital voltmeter into the cig lighter to keep tabs on how the battery is doing as you drive, so you can avoid changing batteries in an inconvenient location should that prove necessary. g -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On

Re: [MBZ] OT old wind machines blades

2020-02-06 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
I’m hoping you’re not serious. Feathering these machines is done automatically through the controls for the blade pitch. If you look closely at them, you’ll see an anemometer on the housing downwind of the rotor. It’s used to measure wind speed at the level of the machine. When the wind

Re: [MBZ] OT - 1950s Cultural Question

2020-02-06 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Indiana still has them, although they’re quite relaxed compared to when I was a kid. When we moved to Wisconsin in 1988 we were amazed at the difference. In Wisconsin you can buy pretty much anything in the way of liquor at grocery and convenience stores, and all between the hours of 6:00 am

Re: [MBZ] OT old wind machines blades

2020-02-06 Thread Clay via Mercedes
https://www.alaskapublic.org/2020/02/05/alaskas-largest-rural-solar-project-set-to-break-ground-in-kotzebue/ clay > On Feb 6, 2020, at 5:34 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes > wrote: > > Sometimes you just have to believe... ___ http://www.okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] OT - 1950s Cultural Question

2020-02-06 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
So it seem that what I have observed in such entertainment vehicles as Perry Mason (and others) is that the idea that people were conducting business on a regular basis at late hours at this period in history is a construct of the media. I often wondered if this wasn’t the case. Now I know.

Re: [MBZ] ***SPAM*** RE: Running w124 300D with failed alternator?

2020-02-06 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Buy a cheap 8 hour travel insurance policy. On Thu, Feb 6, 2020 at 8:13 PM Craig via Mercedes wrote: > On Thu, 6 Feb 2020 15:19:36 -0800 Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes > wrote: > > > Maybe stick a little digital voltmeter into the cig lighter to keep > > tabs on how the battery is doing as you

Re: [MBZ] OT: Banned in Britain

2020-02-06 Thread Scott Ritchey via Mercedes
I too have glimpsed (from afar) attacks on Scouting in recent decades. This begs the questions: Who is behind these attacks? Why? What is their goal, if any? > -Original Message- > From: Curley McLain via Mercedes > Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2020 11:02

[MBZ] Hildegard’s DIRTY little secrets (1982 240D

2020-02-06 Thread Kevin Kraly via Mercedes
Hello listers. I’ve spent about 5 hours working on this tired 240D. It has oil leaking from the rear main seal, and the valve cover and oil separator have been blowing oil all over the engine! I did replace the VC gasket when I did the valve adjustment. The major situation is that the

Re: [MBZ] OT old wind machines blades

2020-02-06 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Sometimes you just have to believe... On Thu, Feb 6, 2020 at 9:23 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > I’m hoping you’re not serious. > > Feathering these machines is done automatically through the controls for > the blade pitch. If you look closely at them, you’ll see an

Re: [MBZ] OT - 1950s Cultural Question

2020-02-06 Thread Peter Frederick via Mercedes
Liquor sales are now legal in indiana on Sunday from noon to four or something like that. Doesn't affect me at all since beer or wine was available at any place that sold food and bars have been open on Sunday night for decades. Canada still had no stores open on Sunday except in border towns

Re: [MBZ] Canadian Aviation Museum

2020-02-06 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
If that article was published by, say Breitbart, the buttercups would be screaming racist, sexist etc from all the mountaintops. Aside from that, and the multiple generalizations that aviation museums are "boring"  the museum does look like a great place to visit.   But you have to consider

Re: [MBZ] ***SPAM*** RE: Running w124 300D with failed alternator?

2020-02-06 Thread Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes
Ok good to know. I’ll probably pull the battery out of my 85 300D which I don’t use in the winter as a backup for the trip. Sent from my iPhone > On Feb 6, 2020, at 3:24 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes > wrote: > > Yes Group 49 > > >> Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes

Re: [MBZ] OT - 1950s Cultural Question

2020-02-06 Thread Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes
I don't think people conducted business late more in the 50s than today. Perry and other lawyers often deal with people on the fringes of society, so not typical of the normals of that period. Greg -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of

[MBZ] Canadian Aviation Museum

2020-02-06 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Hey Randy, ever visit this place? It sounds pretty cool: https://www.cnn.com/travel/article/aviation-museum-ottawa-canada/index.html -D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list

Re: [MBZ] OT - 1950s Cultural Question

2020-02-06 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
Monkey bidness meeting, plausible deniability! -_FT On 2/6/20 5:48 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: As I’m just a touch younger than would have been necessary to directly experience it, I’m wondering if any of our slightly older members might want to offer their observations regarding

Re: [MBZ] OT - 1950s Cultural Question

2020-02-06 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
I don't think the men ever took off their suits and ties either, they'd sit around in the evening in full business dress, well maybe swap the jacket for a cardigan.  Maybe they were anticipating that need for a 9PM bidness meeting, then finally like 11PM they'd go put on their full pajamas and

Re: [MBZ] OT - 1950s Cultural Question

2020-02-06 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
To clarify, it wasn’t just on Perry Mason I have seen this - it’s been on other programs of the same time period and in movies as well. -D > On Feb 6, 2020, at 6:26 PM, Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes > wrote: > > I don't think people conducted business late more in the 50s than today. >

Re: [MBZ] OT - 1950s Cultural Question

2020-02-06 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
Did you see it on TV? Enough said ... On Thu, Feb 6, 2020 at 5:27 PM Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > I don't think people conducted business late more in the 50s than today. > Perry and other lawyers often deal with people on the fringes of society, > so not

Re: [MBZ] OT - 1950s Cultural Question

2020-02-06 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
My guess was that they were catering to those with full time day jobs they couldn't leave - meet them after dinner and the kids were put to bed. Otherwise, it makes a good story ... On Thu, Feb 6, 2020 at 5:03 PM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Monkey bidness

Re: [MBZ] OT - 1950s Cultural Question

2020-02-06 Thread Dwight Giles via Mercedes
Yes PA was known for its,blue laws Dwight Giles Jr. Wickford RI On Thu, Feb 6, 2020, 8:54 PM M. Mitchell Marmel via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Hell, in Philly a lot of stores didn't even open on Sunday, and bars closed > down by 1 AM. Blue laws, don'chew know. > > That didn't

Re: [MBZ] OT old wind machines blades

2020-02-06 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
Back when the first big machines were being built I went to the Hamilton Standard factory where they were making blades 125ft long.  It was like a big lathe with a mandrel between two centers, and a traveling carriage that dispensed epoxy-soaked fiberglass string, just kept going back and

Re: [MBZ] OT old wind machines blades

2020-02-06 Thread Scott Ritchey via Mercedes
I would think more in terms of seawalls or pilings for docks (quay) or structures. > -Original Message- > From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of > Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes > Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2020 8:40 AM > To: Mercedes List > Cc: Buggered

Re: [MBZ] OT old wind machines blades

2020-02-06 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Love the comments: "Wind must be stopped. Its ruining the lives of innocent wind turbines.” -D > On Feb 6, 2020, at 4:16 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes > wrote: > > > Yes, isn't it amazing how well they do? > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nemy4TD4I3A > > On 06/02/2020 3:07 PM, Andrew

Re: [MBZ] OT: Banned in Britain

2020-02-06 Thread Scott Ritchey via Mercedes
I think this speaks to the fragile state of modern dense urban environment. Big cities are the ultimate parasite; they cannot produce any of the essentials they require daily: water, power, food, fuel, etc. I hear it said that we are headed for a civil war where one side has 100 million