Re: [MBZ] Barry Manilow

2020-07-05 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
I don’t recall ever stopping for a weigh station. We had a rental business and 
were hauling all sorts of stuff, mainly generator sets, on the Landoll trailer. 
We had some smaller gooseneck trailers we hauled wit the same truck, too.

-D

> On Jul 5, 2020, at 7:07 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> On Sun, July 5, 2020 6:43 pm, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
>> Privately owned and licensed separately from the trailer, maybe? It was a
>> single axle day cab if that mattered. Not something I ever had to deal
>> with. This was in the late 70s/early 80s if it mattered. I drove it all
>> of the time picking up and dropping off equipment, never had a problem.
> 
> Still sounds like a modern day class 8 CDL rig, but nowhere near the
> 80,000lb max limit. In Michigan, we'd have needed a commercial license
> with a class A (truck/trailer) endorsement by the late 1970s if not
> earlier. There were also endorsements for straight trucks over 26,000lb
> and for having 8 (or was it 10?) passengers.
> 
> Did you stop at or drive by any open weigh stations along the way?
> Seems like stopping would get interesting (show us your class A license
> and bills of lading), and not stopping would get very interesting. Maybe
> the weigh stations were only for freight haulers and not for fixed loads
> back then?
> 
> At least once, I think my commercial license helped get me out of a ticket
> while delivering pizza (which technically did not require a special
> license but many in LE weren't happy with the law).
> 
> Just in the last 20 years it's gotten worse in stages, to where a friend
> of mine won't even haul his own fork lift to a job because he can't do it
> without putting DOT numbers on his pickup and stopping at weigh stations.
> Now he just rents fork lifts and man lifts, has them delivered to the job
> sites, and adds the rental to his job quotes.
> 
> He bought a 28" box truck with roll up sides back in 2002 so he could
> deliver entire conveyor systems, then around 2005 he sold it and bought a
> 3500 pickup, found out the pickup with GVWR >10k was a CDL item with his
> equipment trailer behind it, bought a 2500 pickup to replace it, and then
> threw in the towel a couple years after they made him stencil his 2500 and
> stop at weigh stations. Fedgov has gotten good at prevention of interstate
> commerce, at least for the small companies with fewer than ten employees,
> they make it not worth the hassle to do business. Now he mostly does
> repairs and design consulting instead of installations, and for now the
> DOT still lets him haul his own butt around in a pickup truck without
> stopping at weigh stations.
> 
> Mitch.
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Re: [MBZ] Holy CRACK

2020-07-05 Thread Dwight Giles via Mercedes
So what  do you all think is,a fair market price for this? No Kaleb- not
500.00

Dwight Giles Jr.
Wickford RI

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> 1999 Mercedes E300 Turbo Diesel
>
>
> https://stlouis.craigslist.org/cto/d/ballwin-1999-mercedes-e300-turbo-diesel/7153670462.html
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Re: [MBZ] Holy CRACK

2020-07-05 Thread Dwight Giles via Mercedes
Seems,about right. Wish i had cash & driveway space

Dwight Giles Jr.
Wickford RI

On Sun, Jul 5, 2020, 10:33 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Maybe $4k?
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Jul 5, 2020, at 8:47 PM, Dwight Giles  wrote:
> >
> > 
> > So what  do you all think is,a fair market price for this? No Kaleb- not
> 500.00
> >
> > Dwight Giles Jr.
> > Wickford RI
> >
> >> On Sun, Jul 5, 2020, 8:47 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >> 1999 Mercedes E300 Turbo Diesel
> >>
> >>
> https://stlouis.craigslist.org/cto/d/ballwin-1999-mercedes-e300-turbo-diesel/7153670462.html
> >>
> >>
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Re: [MBZ] Amazon

2020-07-05 Thread Allan Streib via Mercedes
I let my Prime subscription expire over a year ago. Was great at first
but by the end I was rarely getting the 2-day delivery, and I didn't use
the Prime Video or other benefits so I didn't see the point in paying
for it.

I rarely buy from Amazon these days, but when I do I either pay for
shipping or choose the "free" option that most items offer. That takes
about a week or so, but really isn't much slower than Prime was at the end.

Allan

Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes  writes:

> Is there no such thing as Prime 2 day shipping anymore? Just about
> everytime I see a Prime item, it is about a week ship time. For
> example looking at ordering something now and it will not arrive until
> Friday. Another item is Thursday? It used to be 2 days or less with
> Prime for me.

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Re: [MBZ] Bleeding 240D clutch

2020-07-05 Thread Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
I got home with the 8ft section of hose and I just decided to leave it 
as is rather than cutting it shorter.  I filled the tube with fluid from 
the HF oil can squirter then attached it to the bleeder and began 
pumping.  I ended up developing some air pockets in the house so I 
removed it from the bleeder again and got them out.  I determined the 
issue the whole time might have been I did not have the bleeder loose 
enough.  I loosened it some more and continued pumping.  After a while I 
noticed a small amount of movement in the brake reservoir.  Then the 
level started to slowly rise.  I closed the bleeder screw then went 
under the dash to pull the linkage rod out to install the one originally 
on the car.  The one that came with the MC was much shorter than the MB 
one that came off the car so I stuck the one that came with the MC back 
in.  I had a hell of a time compressing it to get it back to the bolt 
hole.  Finally got it, screwed it back down and now the clutch works!  I 
am not sure if it was a matter of leaving the rod disconnected from the 
clutch pedal, opening the bleed screw more, or using the oil can instead 
of the hose connected to brake caliper.  At the end of the day I think I 
prefer the oil can method because using the caliper has the potential to 
pump dirty brake fluid up into the brand new clutch hydraulics (although 
in this case the fluid looks clean like it was recently flushed.


On 7/5/2020 3:07 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote:

I just bought 8 ft of clear tubing. Will run it out from under the car to where 
I can watch the reservoir then cut the length I need. I will then pump the line 
full of fluid before hooking it up to the bleeder on slave cylinder. Then start 
pumping.

Sent from my iPhone


On Jul 5, 2020, at 2:52 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes  
wrote:

 I didn't say it would always work. ;)
-Curt


On Sunday, July 5, 2020, 2:37:17 AM EDT, fmiser  wrote:

Curt wrote:
Have you checked to see if the line from the master to the slave
is clear? Maybe that was the problem all along. My suggestion is
to use the rod from the car, not the replacement master.

Can't always do that.  I've seen at least three different
rod-to-cylinder interfaces.  Not all were interchangeable.


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Re: [MBZ] OT - Mini Split and More

2020-07-05 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
 The ones I've seen pull in room air and cool some, exhausting some as hot air. 
AFAIK all the air is taken from the room. Of course efficiency will be lower 
since the air that is exhausted has to be made up from somewhere

-Curt

On Sunday, July 5, 2020, 10:19:22 AM EDT, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
 wrote:  
 
 This is what I thought about getting to blow on my in my immediate area in the 
shop. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 5, 2020, at 6:38 AM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> I had extremely low expectations when my parents bought one.
> Let's draw 95° air into the house, heat it up to make cold air, blow the
> hot air (and condensate from the cold air) out the tube, drawing more 95°
> moist air into the building...but surprisingly enough, it seems to work
> about as well as a window unit.
> Mitch.
> 
>> On Sun, July 5, 2020 3:27 am, Scott Ritchey via Mercedes wrote:
>> Be interesting to see how this work.  HVAC guys put one in my house as a
>> temp fix.  Didn't do much good.  I don't see how a single hose can work.
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Bleeding 240D clutch

2020-07-05 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes
Attaboy.
Mitch.

On Sun, July 5, 2020 6:15 pm, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
>  Finally
> got it, screwed it back down and now the clutch works!


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Re: [MBZ] Barry Manilow

2020-07-05 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes
On Sun, July 5, 2020 6:43 pm, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
> Privately owned and licensed separately from the trailer, maybe? It was a
> single axle day cab if that mattered. Not something I ever had to deal
> with. This was in the late 70s/early 80s if it mattered. I drove it all
> of the time picking up and dropping off equipment, never had a problem.

Still sounds like a modern day class 8 CDL rig, but nowhere near the
80,000lb max limit. In Michigan, we'd have needed a commercial license
with a class A (truck/trailer) endorsement by the late 1970s if not
earlier. There were also endorsements for straight trucks over 26,000lb
and for having 8 (or was it 10?) passengers.

Did you stop at or drive by any open weigh stations along the way?
Seems like stopping would get interesting (show us your class A license
and bills of lading), and not stopping would get very interesting. Maybe
the weigh stations were only for freight haulers and not for fixed loads
back then?

At least once, I think my commercial license helped get me out of a ticket
while delivering pizza (which technically did not require a special
license but many in LE weren't happy with the law).

Just in the last 20 years it's gotten worse in stages, to where a friend
of mine won't even haul his own fork lift to a job because he can't do it
without putting DOT numbers on his pickup and stopping at weigh stations.
Now he just rents fork lifts and man lifts, has them delivered to the job
sites, and adds the rental to his job quotes.

He bought a 28" box truck with roll up sides back in 2002 so he could
deliver entire conveyor systems, then around 2005 he sold it and bought a
3500 pickup, found out the pickup with GVWR >10k was a CDL item with his
equipment trailer behind it, bought a 2500 pickup to replace it, and then
threw in the towel a couple years after they made him stencil his 2500 and
stop at weigh stations. Fedgov has gotten good at prevention of interstate
commerce, at least for the small companies with fewer than ten employees,
they make it not worth the hassle to do business. Now he mostly does
repairs and design consulting instead of installations, and for now the
DOT still lets him haul his own butt around in a pickup truck without
stopping at weigh stations.

Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] Barry Manilow

2020-07-05 Thread Peter Frederick via Mercedes
No CDL in those days.  I worked a coupe concerts with a friend of mine who 
worked for the local promotion company.  Lotta hot sweaty work to listen to 
bands I didn't care for, but it paid.

Got to find the correct wine and pick the red M out of the candy -- and much 
later found that those things were in there to make sure the local guys were 
reading and fulfilling the contract, the band didn't much care.
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Re: [MBZ] Barry Manilow

2020-07-05 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
 I bet I could count on both hands all the times I've ever seen weigh stations 
open in New England. We noticed one in Maine open the other day, first time I 
could remember seeing one open for years...
-Curt

On Sunday, July 5, 2020, 7:08:08 PM EDT, Mitch Haley via Mercedes 
 wrote:  
 
 On Sun, July 5, 2020 6:43 pm, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
> Privately owned and licensed separately from the trailer, maybe? It was a
> single axle day cab if that mattered. Not something I ever had to deal
> with. This was in the late 70s/early 80s if it mattered. I drove it all
> of the time picking up and dropping off equipment, never had a problem.

Still sounds like a modern day class 8 CDL rig, but nowhere near the
80,000lb max limit. In Michigan, we'd have needed a commercial license
with a class A (truck/trailer) endorsement by the late 1970s if not
earlier. There were also endorsements for straight trucks over 26,000lb
and for having 8 (or was it 10?) passengers.

Did you stop at or drive by any open weigh stations along the way?
Seems like stopping would get interesting (show us your class A license
and bills of lading), and not stopping would get very interesting. Maybe
the weigh stations were only for freight haulers and not for fixed loads
back then?

At least once, I think my commercial license helped get me out of a ticket
while delivering pizza (which technically did not require a special
license but many in LE weren't happy with the law).

Just in the last 20 years it's gotten worse in stages, to where a friend
of mine won't even haul his own fork lift to a job because he can't do it
without putting DOT numbers on his pickup and stopping at weigh stations.
Now he just rents fork lifts and man lifts, has them delivered to the job
sites, and adds the rental to his job quotes.

He bought a 28" box truck with roll up sides back in 2002 so he could
deliver entire conveyor systems, then around 2005 he sold it and bought a
3500 pickup, found out the pickup with GVWR >10k was a CDL item with his
equipment trailer behind it, bought a 2500 pickup to replace it, and then
threw in the towel a couple years after they made him stencil his 2500 and
stop at weigh stations. Fedgov has gotten good at prevention of interstate
commerce, at least for the small companies with fewer than ten employees,
they make it not worth the hassle to do business. Now he mostly does
repairs and design consulting instead of installations, and for now the
DOT still lets him haul his own butt around in a pickup truck without
stopping at weigh stations.

Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] Holy CRACK

2020-07-05 Thread Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
Maybe $4k? 

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> On Jul 5, 2020, at 8:47 PM, Dwight Giles  wrote:
> 
> 
> So what  do you all think is,a fair market price for this? No Kaleb- not 
> 500.00
> 
> Dwight Giles Jr.
> Wickford RI
> 
>> On Sun, Jul 5, 2020, 8:47 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 1999 Mercedes E300 Turbo Diesel
>> 
>> https://stlouis.craigslist.org/cto/d/ballwin-1999-mercedes-e300-turbo-diesel/7153670462.html
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Barry Manilow

2020-07-05 Thread Allan Streib via Mercedes
How did you drive a semi as a high-schooler? I thought you had to be 21 for a 
CDL?

Allan

Dan Penoff via Mercedes  writes:

> While it has been many years, in the summer in junior/senior years of high 
> school and later before I was in tech school I used to drive a semi with a 
> Landoll trailer carrying a 350kW generator set and cables to be used by the 
> various tours as they went around the Midwest. A lot of the venues back in 
> that time didn’t have adequate house power to run their whole show, so they 
> would run the sound off house power and used our generator for lighting.
>
> I would often follow a given show for a week at a time, sometimes more, as 
> they toured around the Midwest. We also had a standing gig with Market Square 
> Area and the Clay Courts in Indianapolis for the same thing, so in some cases 
> I would be doing it during the rest of the year locally, too.
>
> I was first in, last out. For a typical 8:00 pm show I had to be there no 
> later than 8:00 am, sound check was usually around 2:00-3:00, then cool my 
> heels until the show started. A lot of times we wouldn’t have everything 
> struck at the prior venue until 2:00 - 3:00 am, which meant I might have to 
> high tail it a couple hundred miles to the next venue, like maybe Louisville 
> to Columbus or St. Louis, for example. Longer distances usually meant a 
> travel day in between. Lots of sleeping in the truck.
>
> Some of the artists I toured with:
>
> Rush
> Fleetwood Mac
> Don Henley
> Stevie Nicks
> Kiss
> Foreigner
> Phil Collins
> Def Leppard
> Dire Straits
> AC/DC
> Journey
> REO Speedwagon
> Pat Benatar
> ZZ Top
> Heart
> Toto
> Kenny Loggins
> Steve Winwood
>
> I’m sure there were others, but these are the ones I recall. All I can say is 
> that while it was fun, sort of, it made me realize what a crappy way to make 
> a living it was. I had to carry a firearm because I always got paid in cash 
> by the road manager before the end of the show, so I always had large sums of 
> cash on me until the morning when I could deposit it if I could find the 
> right bank where we were. I was not union, so at the union (IATSE) halls I 
> had to have a union member “assigned” to me that made all the final 
> connections and I pretty much just flipped the switch and made sure all was 
> well. Once that was done I was free to hit the buffet if there was one for 
> the crew.
>
> My recollections about artists are as such:
>
> Rush was the absolute best band to work for. They had a dedicated crew that 
> toured exclusively with them, some of them having been with the band for some 
> time. Food was excellent and they (Geddy Lee and Alex Lifeson) were always 
> very nice and came by before the show to thank everyone. Molson and cold 
> shrimp were some of the regular things on the after show buffet, and they 
> always had a “to-go” kit of food and goodies for everyone on the crew after 
> things were broken down/struck. A good breakfast was out on the morning of 
> the show, too, with lots of fresh fruit and good things to eat.
>
> Don Henley’s entourage was the worst. That was one of those “avert your eyes 
> when the “artist” is moving through the wings and backstage.” A real douche. 
> No buffet or food, a pile of order-out pizza and cooler full of generic soda 
> was all they would put out, and it was rarely enough to feed everyone.
>
> Keep in mind that food is always provided by the venue/promoter and costs the 
> act a minimal amount of money, if any, as it’s factored into the cost of the 
> show and spelled out in the rider in advance. That’s the contract that says 
> “no brown M’s.” So if a tour does a crappy job on food for the crew, it’s 
> on the tour, not the venue.
>
> Understand that as a crew member you rarely see the talent. If you do, 
> they’re moving through backstage from point A to point B with their entourage 
> around them, so you often can’t even see them if you tried. The only ones I 
> recall circulating backstage were Rush, ZZ Top and I think Kenny Loggins. 
> They would often hang around and chat a little bit after the sound check. As 
> I mentioned before, Rush would come around and thank everyone before the show.
>
> I really don’t recall a lot of details, as it was 40 years ago, but those are 
> the ones that stand out. The rest were pretty decent because they recognized 
> the value of keeping the help happy. It was still a crappy gig, but I got 
> paid pretty well for the time, I think $200/day in cash.
>
> -D “Yeah, I’m with the band, baby”
>

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Re: [MBZ] Barry Manilow

2020-07-05 Thread Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes
When I was 17 I drove an old converted school bus party wagon full of drunks to 
the Indy 500. That was the year Swede Savage got killed in a big wreck on the 
2nd or 3rd lap right about the S/F line. 1972 I guess. Some of the drunks got 
hit by fuel and flying debris so we were delayed leaving while they got checked 
out in the infield hospital. 

Getting out was a trip. They were all sh*tfaced, I was the only sober one, 
threw that sucker into first gear and laid on the horn and the crowd and 
traffic parted like Moses and the Red Sea. I got $20 and an infield ticket, met 
a buddy right quick in amongst about  30,000 people at the first turn, that 
didn’t last long. 

--FT
Sent from iPhone

> On Jul 5, 2020, at 5:25 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> I was thinking 18 (but no way a major freight carrier's insurance will
> cover you under 21) but I was wondering the same thing.
> 
> I don't think Michigan would have given me a Chauffeurs license before I
> was 18 with our without the Class A endorsement. I had one at 20 with no
> truck/bus endorsements on it.
> Mitch.
> 
>> On Sun, July 5, 2020 5:13 pm, Allan Streib via Mercedes wrote:
>> How did you drive a semi as a high-schooler? I thought you had to be 21
>> for a CDL?
> 
> 
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[MBZ] Weigh stations

2020-07-05 Thread Dwight Giles via Mercedes
I agree Curt. They never seem to be open here in NE.

Dwight Giles Jr.
Wickford RI

On Sun, Jul 5, 2020, 7:22 PM Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

>  I bet I could count on both hands all the times I've ever seen weigh
> stations open in New England. We noticed one in Maine open the other day,
> first time I could remember seeing one open for years...
> -Curt
>
> On Sunday, July 5, 2020, 7:08:08 PM EDT, Mitch Haley via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
>  On Sun, July 5, 2020 6:43 pm, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
> > Privately owned and licensed separately from the trailer, maybe? It was a
> > single axle day cab if that mattered. Not something I ever had to deal
> > with. This was in the late 70s/early 80s if it mattered. I drove it all
> > of the time picking up and dropping off equipment, never had a problem.
>
> Still sounds like a modern day class 8 CDL rig, but nowhere near the
> 80,000lb max limit. In Michigan, we'd have needed a commercial license
> with a class A (truck/trailer) endorsement by the late 1970s if not
> earlier. There were also endorsements for straight trucks over 26,000lb
> and for having 8 (or was it 10?) passengers.
>
> Did you stop at or drive by any open weigh stations along the way?
> Seems like stopping would get interesting (show us your class A license
> and bills of lading), and not stopping would get very interesting. Maybe
> the weigh stations were only for freight haulers and not for fixed loads
> back then?
>
> At least once, I think my commercial license helped get me out of a ticket
> while delivering pizza (which technically did not require a special
> license but many in LE weren't happy with the law).
>
> Just in the last 20 years it's gotten worse in stages, to where a friend
> of mine won't even haul his own fork lift to a job because he can't do it
> without putting DOT numbers on his pickup and stopping at weigh stations.
> Now he just rents fork lifts and man lifts, has them delivered to the job
> sites, and adds the rental to his job quotes.
>
> He bought a 28" box truck with roll up sides back in 2002 so he could
> deliver entire conveyor systems, then around 2005 he sold it and bought a
> 3500 pickup, found out the pickup with GVWR >10k was a CDL item with his
> equipment trailer behind it, bought a 2500 pickup to replace it, and then
> threw in the towel a couple years after they made him stencil his 2500 and
> stop at weigh stations. Fedgov has gotten good at prevention of interstate
> commerce, at least for the small companies with fewer than ten employees,
> they make it not worth the hassle to do business. Now he mostly does
> repairs and design consulting instead of installations, and for now the
> DOT still lets him haul his own butt around in a pickup truck without
> stopping at weigh stations.
>
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Re: [MBZ] Bleeding 240D clutch

2020-07-05 Thread Max Dillon via Mercedes
Bravo!

Max Dillon
Charleston SC

Jul 5, 2020 6:15:23 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes :

> I got home with the 8ft section of hose and I just decided to leave it as is 
> rather than cutting it shorter.  I filled the tube with fluid from the HF oil 
> can squirter then attached it to the bleeder and began pumping.  I ended up 
> developing some air pockets in the house so I removed it from the bleeder 
> again and got them out.  I determined the issue the whole time might have 
> been I did not have the bleeder loose enough.  I loosened it some more and 
> continued pumping.  After a while I noticed a small amount of movement in the 
> brake reservoir.  Then the level started to slowly rise.  I closed the 
> bleeder screw then went under the dash to pull the linkage rod out to install 
> the one originally on the car.  The one that came with the MC was much 
> shorter than the MB one that came off the car so I stuck the one that came 
> with the MC back in.  I had a hell of a time compressing it to get it back to 
> the bolt hole.  Finally got it, screwed it back down and now the clutch 
> works!  I am not sure if it was a matter of leaving the rod disconnected from 
> the clutch pedal, opening the bleed screw more, or using the oil can instead 
> of the hose connected to brake caliper.  At the end of the day I think I 
> prefer the oil can method because using the caliper has the potential to pump 
> dirty brake fluid up into the brand new clutch hydraulics (although in this 
> case the fluid looks clean like it was recently flushed.
> 
> On 7/5/2020 3:07 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
>> I just bought 8 ft of clear tubing. Will run it out from under the car to 
>> where I can watch the reservoir then cut the length I need. I will then pump 
>> the line full of fluid before hooking it up to the bleeder on slave 
>> cylinder. Then start pumping.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Jul 5, 2020, at 2:52 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>>  I didn't say it would always work. ;)
>>> -Curt
>>> 
 On Sunday, July 5, 2020, 2:37:17 AM EDT, fmiser  wrote:
 
 Curt wrote:
 Have you checked to see if the line from the master to the slave
 is clear? Maybe that was the problem all along. My suggestion is
 to use the rod from the car, not the replacement master.
>>> Can't always do that.  I've seen at least three different
>>> rod-to-cylinder interfaces.  Not all were interchangeable.
>>> 
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[MBZ] Holy CRACK

2020-07-05 Thread Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
1999 Mercedes E300 Turbo Diesel

https://stlouis.craigslist.org/cto/d/ballwin-1999-mercedes-e300-turbo-diesel/7153670462.html


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Re: [MBZ] Barry Manilow

2020-07-05 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes
I was thinking 18 (but no way a major freight carrier's insurance will
cover you under 21) but I was wondering the same thing.

I don't think Michigan would have given me a Chauffeurs license before I
was 18 with our without the Class A endorsement. I had one at 20 with no
truck/bus endorsements on it.
Mitch.

On Sun, July 5, 2020 5:13 pm, Allan Streib via Mercedes wrote:
> How did you drive a semi as a high-schooler? I thought you had to be 21
> for a CDL?



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Re: [MBZ] Barry Manilow

2020-07-05 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Privately owned and licensed separately from the trailer, maybe? It was a 
single axle day cab if that mattered. Not something I ever had to deal with. 
This was in the late 70s/early 80s if it mattered. I drove it all of the time 
picking up and dropping off equipment, never had a problem.

-D

> On Jul 5, 2020, at 5:13 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> How did you drive a semi as a high-schooler? I thought you had to be 21 for a 
> CDL?
> 
> Allan
> 
> Dan Penoff via Mercedes  writes:
> 
>> While it has been many years, in the summer in junior/senior years of high 
>> school and later before I was in tech school I used to drive a semi with a 
>> Landoll trailer carrying a 350kW generator set and cables to be used by the 
>> various tours as they went around the Midwest. A lot of the venues back in 
>> that time didn’t have adequate house power to run their whole show, so they 
>> would run the sound off house power and used our generator for lighting.
>> 
>> I would often follow a given show for a week at a time, sometimes more, as 
>> they toured around the Midwest. We also had a standing gig with Market 
>> Square Area and the Clay Courts in Indianapolis for the same thing, so in 
>> some cases I would be doing it during the rest of the year locally, too.
>> 
>> I was first in, last out. For a typical 8:00 pm show I had to be there no 
>> later than 8:00 am, sound check was usually around 2:00-3:00, then cool my 
>> heels until the show started. A lot of times we wouldn’t have everything 
>> struck at the prior venue until 2:00 - 3:00 am, which meant I might have to 
>> high tail it a couple hundred miles to the next venue, like maybe Louisville 
>> to Columbus or St. Louis, for example. Longer distances usually meant a 
>> travel day in between. Lots of sleeping in the truck.
>> 
>> Some of the artists I toured with:
>> 
>> Rush
>> Fleetwood Mac
>> Don Henley
>> Stevie Nicks
>> Kiss
>> Foreigner
>> Phil Collins
>> Def Leppard
>> Dire Straits
>> AC/DC
>> Journey
>> REO Speedwagon
>> Pat Benatar
>> ZZ Top
>> Heart
>> Toto
>> Kenny Loggins
>> Steve Winwood
>> 
>> I’m sure there were others, but these are the ones I recall. All I can say 
>> is that while it was fun, sort of, it made me realize what a crappy way to 
>> make a living it was. I had to carry a firearm because I always got paid in 
>> cash by the road manager before the end of the show, so I always had large 
>> sums of cash on me until the morning when I could deposit it if I could find 
>> the right bank where we were. I was not union, so at the union (IATSE) halls 
>> I had to have a union member “assigned” to me that made all the final 
>> connections and I pretty much just flipped the switch and made sure all was 
>> well. Once that was done I was free to hit the buffet if there was one for 
>> the crew.
>> 
>> My recollections about artists are as such:
>> 
>> Rush was the absolute best band to work for. They had a dedicated crew that 
>> toured exclusively with them, some of them having been with the band for 
>> some time. Food was excellent and they (Geddy Lee and Alex Lifeson) were 
>> always very nice and came by before the show to thank everyone. Molson and 
>> cold shrimp were some of the regular things on the after show buffet, and 
>> they always had a “to-go” kit of food and goodies for everyone on the crew 
>> after things were broken down/struck. A good breakfast was out on the 
>> morning of the show, too, with lots of fresh fruit and good things to eat.
>> 
>> Don Henley’s entourage was the worst. That was one of those “avert your eyes 
>> when the “artist” is moving through the wings and backstage.” A real douche. 
>> No buffet or food, a pile of order-out pizza and cooler full of generic soda 
>> was all they would put out, and it was rarely enough to feed everyone.
>> 
>> Keep in mind that food is always provided by the venue/promoter and costs 
>> the act a minimal amount of money, if any, as it’s factored into the cost of 
>> the show and spelled out in the rider in advance. That’s the contract that 
>> says “no brown M’s.” So if a tour does a crappy job on food for the crew, 
>> it’s on the tour, not the venue.
>> 
>> Understand that as a crew member you rarely see the talent. If you do, 
>> they’re moving through backstage from point A to point B with their 
>> entourage around them, so you often can’t even see them if you tried. The 
>> only ones I recall circulating backstage were Rush, ZZ Top and I think Kenny 
>> Loggins. They would often hang around and chat a little bit after the sound 
>> check. As I mentioned before, Rush would come around and thank everyone 
>> before the show.
>> 
>> I really don’t recall a lot of details, as it was 40 years ago, but those 
>> are the ones that stand out. The rest were pretty decent because they 
>> recognized the value of keeping the help happy. It was still a crappy gig, 
>> but I got paid pretty well for the time, I think $200/day in cash.
>> 
>> -D “Yeah, 

Re: [MBZ] Holy CRACK

2020-07-05 Thread Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes
38mpg == crack+heroin+meth injected snorted smoked and rubbed on

--FT
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> On Jul 5, 2020, at 8:47 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
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> 
> 1999 Mercedes E300 Turbo Diesel
> 
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> 
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[MBZ] Amazon

2020-07-05 Thread Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
Is there no such thing as Prime 2 day shipping anymore?  Just about 
everytime I see a Prime item, it is about a week ship time. For example 
looking at ordering something now and it will not arrive until Friday.  
Another item is Thursday?  It used to be 2 days or less with Prime for me.



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Re: [MBZ] Holy CRACK

2020-07-05 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes
On Sun, July 5, 2020 10:26 pm, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes wrote:
> 38mpg == crack+heroin+meth injected snorted smoked and rubbed on

That number seems reasonable for a late model CDI, or even low for a 250CDI.

What could you get from a 606 turbo in front of a five speed auto in a
W210, 32-34?

Not many cars have done 38 for me.
1980 Citation, 4cyl 4sp, on a rural backroad commute 60-65 miles a day at
55mph. Still pretty darn good for a carbureted car. My lifetime total
would be closer to 30 in that car.

That's probably about my warm weather average in the 1989 Horizon, but the
odometer in that car was at least 3% optimistic, so it was no better than
37 in reality. Best tank ever was 43mpg, driving at 45mph to see what I
could get.

The 2016 Cruze is about as quick as the 1986 2.3-16, has more room and
trunk space, and gets 43 about as easily as the 190E gets 25 (not easy,
have to work to get those numbers, Cruze would rather get 40, 2.3-16 more
like 22-23).


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Re: [MBZ] Barry Manilow

2020-07-05 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes
On Sun, July 5, 2020 6:58 pm, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
> That was 1973, the race that went over three days.

What's funny/coincidental is this popped up as a youtube suggestion for me
several hours ago:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eodcGBlPtC4

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Re: [MBZ] Bleeding 240D clutch

2020-07-05 Thread G Mann via Mercedes
Glad the trick pony gave one more ride Kaleb.

Congrats on success Now, get out and do a burnout before you do the
Italian tuneup. 240 version. Don't forget to pack a lunch.. ;))

On Sun, Jul 5, 2020 at 4:29 PM Max Dillon via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Bravo!
>
> Max Dillon
> Charleston SC
>
> Jul 5, 2020 6:15:23 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes  >:
>
> > I got home with the 8ft section of hose and I just decided to leave it
> as is rather than cutting it shorter.  I filled the tube with fluid from
> the HF oil can squirter then attached it to the bleeder and began pumping.
> I ended up developing some air pockets in the house so I removed it from
> the bleeder again and got them out.  I determined the issue the whole time
> might have been I did not have the bleeder loose enough.  I loosened it
> some more and continued pumping.  After a while I noticed a small amount of
> movement in the brake reservoir.  Then the level started to slowly rise.  I
> closed the bleeder screw then went under the dash to pull the linkage rod
> out to install the one originally on the car.  The one that came with the
> MC was much shorter than the MB one that came off the car so I stuck the
> one that came with the MC back in.  I had a hell of a time compressing it
> to get it back to the bolt hole.  Finally got it, screwed it back down and
> now the clutch works!  I am not sure if it was a matter of leaving the rod
> disconnected from the clutch pedal, opening the bleed screw more, or using
> the oil can instead of the hose connected to brake caliper.  At the end of
> the day I think I prefer the oil can method because using the caliper has
> the potential to pump dirty brake fluid up into the brand new clutch
> hydraulics (although in this case the fluid looks clean like it was
> recently flushed.
> >
> > On 7/5/2020 3:07 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
> >> I just bought 8 ft of clear tubing. Will run it out from under the car
> to where I can watch the reservoir then cut the length I need. I will then
> pump the line full of fluid before hooking it up to the bleeder on slave
> cylinder. Then start pumping.
> >>
> >> Sent from my iPhone
> >>
> >>> On Jul 5, 2020, at 2:52 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>  I didn't say it would always work. ;)
> >>> -Curt
> >>>
>  On Sunday, July 5, 2020, 2:37:17 AM EDT, fmiser 
> wrote:
> 
>  Curt wrote:
>  Have you checked to see if the line from the master to the slave
>  is clear? Maybe that was the problem all along. My suggestion is
>  to use the rod from the car, not the replacement master.
> >>> Can't always do that.  I've seen at least three different
> >>> rod-to-cylinder interfaces.  Not all were interchangeable.
> >>>
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Re: [MBZ] Barry Manilow

2020-07-05 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
That was 1973, the race that went over three days. Saw that one from the 
paddock penthouse. I remember Salt Walther’s car sliding to stop and seeing his 
legs hanging out of the front of the tub. We also saw the crew member get hit 
in the pits by the fire truck responding to the Swede Savage crash. It was a 
total cluster. I remember Dan Gurney being interviewed on a local news station 
after the second day, saying that as far as he was concerned they should just 
make the race a scratch and move on to Milwaukee...

Things were so screwed up by the third day they weren’t even checking tickets 
any more. You could pretty well walk in and sit where you wanted.

My Dad had a customer that was the commercial GMC (trucks and heavy equipment, 
Parker GMC) that bought blocks of tickets to give out to customers, along with 
a suite they had in the Speedway Motel on the second turn. I sat in that one 
year and it was lousy except for the food, drinks and valet parking. I got free 
tickets to the 500 for years from them and pretty much sat in nearly every part 
of the track. Best place to sit? Southeast Vista in the end of the alphabet 
double letter rows. You’re high up enough to see almost to the finish line 
around the first and second turns, down the back stretch into the third turn 
chute. You also get torched by the sun up there on a sunny day.

-D

> On Jul 5, 2020, at 5:38 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> When I was 17 I drove an old converted school bus party wagon full of drunks 
> to the Indy 500. That was the year Swede Savage got killed in a big wreck on 
> the 2nd or 3rd lap right about the S/F line. 1972 I guess. Some of the drunks 
> got hit by fuel and flying debris so we were delayed leaving while they got 
> checked out in the infield hospital. 
> 
> Getting out was a trip. They were all sh*tfaced, I was the only sober one, 
> threw that sucker into first gear and laid on the horn and the crowd and 
> traffic parted like Moses and the Red Sea. I got $20 and an infield ticket, 
> met a buddy right quick in amongst about  30,000 people at the first turn, 
> that didn’t last long. 
> 
> --FT
> Sent from iPhone
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>> On Jul 5, 2020, at 5:25 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> I was thinking 18 (but no way a major freight carrier's insurance will
>> cover you under 21) but I was wondering the same thing.
>> 
>> I don't think Michigan would have given me a Chauffeurs license before I
>> was 18 with our without the Class A endorsement. I had one at 20 with no
>> truck/bus endorsements on it.
>> Mitch.
>> 
>>> On Sun, July 5, 2020 5:13 pm, Allan Streib via Mercedes wrote:
>>> How did you drive a semi as a high-schooler? I thought you had to be 21
>>> for a CDL?
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Bleeding 240D clutch

2020-07-05 Thread Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
Next up I need to replace the voltage regulator then get the blower and AC 
working. Front end needs to be rebuilt and the flex disks and center support 
need to be replaced. Not sure yet if I will do all that or sell as is. One this 
is certain I will not be doing any of that unless I get my lift going. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 5, 2020, at 6:38 PM, G Mann via Mercedes  wrote:
> 
> Glad the trick pony gave one more ride Kaleb.
> 
> Congrats on success Now, get out and do a burnout before you do the
> Italian tuneup. 240 version. Don't forget to pack a lunch.. ;))
> 
>> On Sun, Jul 5, 2020 at 4:29 PM Max Dillon via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Bravo!
>> 
>> Max Dillon
>> Charleston SC
>> 
>> Jul 5, 2020 6:15:23 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes >> :
>> 
>>> I got home with the 8ft section of hose and I just decided to leave it
>> as is rather than cutting it shorter.  I filled the tube with fluid from
>> the HF oil can squirter then attached it to the bleeder and began pumping.
>> I ended up developing some air pockets in the house so I removed it from
>> the bleeder again and got them out.  I determined the issue the whole time
>> might have been I did not have the bleeder loose enough.  I loosened it
>> some more and continued pumping.  After a while I noticed a small amount of
>> movement in the brake reservoir.  Then the level started to slowly rise.  I
>> closed the bleeder screw then went under the dash to pull the linkage rod
>> out to install the one originally on the car.  The one that came with the
>> MC was much shorter than the MB one that came off the car so I stuck the
>> one that came with the MC back in.  I had a hell of a time compressing it
>> to get it back to the bolt hole.  Finally got it, screwed it back down and
>> now the clutch works!  I am not sure if it was a matter of leaving the rod
>> disconnected from the clutch pedal, opening the bleed screw more, or using
>> the oil can instead of the hose connected to brake caliper.  At the end of
>> the day I think I prefer the oil can method because using the caliper has
>> the potential to pump dirty brake fluid up into the brand new clutch
>> hydraulics (although in this case the fluid looks clean like it was
>> recently flushed.
>>> 
>>> On 7/5/2020 3:07 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
 I just bought 8 ft of clear tubing. Will run it out from under the car
>> to where I can watch the reservoir then cut the length I need. I will then
>> pump the line full of fluid before hooking it up to the bleeder on slave
>> cylinder. Then start pumping.
 
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> On Jul 5, 2020, at 2:52 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>  I didn't say it would always work. ;)
> -Curt
> 
>> On Sunday, July 5, 2020, 2:37:17 AM EDT, fmiser 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Curt wrote:
>> Have you checked to see if the line from the master to the slave
>> is clear? Maybe that was the problem all along. My suggestion is
>> to use the rod from the car, not the replacement master.
> Can't always do that.  I've seen at least three different
> rod-to-cylinder interfaces.  Not all were interchangeable.
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Re: [MBZ] Barry Manilow

2020-07-05 Thread Allan Streib via Mercedes
Mitch Haley via Mercedes  writes:

> Fedgov has gotten good at prevention of interstate commerce, at least
> for the small companies with fewer than ten employees, they make it
> not worth the hassle to do business.

Sometimes I see trucks/trailers placarded "Not For Hire" so maybe that
relieves the owners of some regulatory hassle?

Allan


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Re: [MBZ] OT - Mini Split and More

2020-07-05 Thread Scott Ritchey via Mercedes
Thanks for the explanation.  I'm still skeptical on real-world effectiveness.  
I wonder what kind of SEER or net cooling capacity these things deliver?  Using 
room air to cool the hot coil should make the supply air nice and cool at the 
expense of sucking hot, humid outside air into the space.

Maybe Dan can drill an exhaust hose hole at a location that can later support a 
mini-split?

> -Original Message-
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> Mitch Haley via Mercedes
> 
> The suck in is through the side of the housing, not the hose.
> It's not outside air, it's conditioned room air that you're going to throw 
> outside
> when you're done heating it, so unconditioned outside air can be sucked into
> the room through whatever leaks it can find.
> 
> Yeah, when you think about it, holy cow that sounds stupid.
> But, as I said earlier, the one in my parents' living room actually seems to 
> work,
> although I'm sure the interior humidity is much higher than it should be with 
> a
> real air conditioner.
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Re: [MBZ] Holy CRACK

2020-07-05 Thread Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes
My 99 E300 consistently got 28, seemed to be in order, ran great 

--FT
Sent from iPhone

> On Jul 5, 2020, at 10:57 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes  
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> On Sun, July 5, 2020 10:26 pm, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes wrote:
>> 38mpg == crack+heroin+meth injected snorted smoked and rubbed on
> 
> That number seems reasonable for a late model CDI, or even low for a 250CDI.
> 
> What could you get from a 606 turbo in front of a five speed auto in a
> W210, 32-34?
> 
> Not many cars have done 38 for me.
> 1980 Citation, 4cyl 4sp, on a rural backroad commute 60-65 miles a day at
> 55mph. Still pretty darn good for a carbureted car. My lifetime total
> would be closer to 30 in that car.
> 
> That's probably about my warm weather average in the 1989 Horizon, but the
> odometer in that car was at least 3% optimistic, so it was no better than
> 37 in reality. Best tank ever was 43mpg, driving at 45mph to see what I
> could get.
> 
> The 2016 Cruze is about as quick as the 1986 2.3-16, has more room and
> trunk space, and gets 43 about as easily as the 190E gets 25 (not easy,
> have to work to get those numbers, Cruze would rather get 40, 2.3-16 more
> like 22-23).
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Bleeding 240D clutch

2020-07-05 Thread fmiser via Mercedes
> Curt wrote:

> Have you checked to see if the line from the master to the slave
> is clear? Maybe that was the problem all along. My suggestion is
> to use the rod from the car, not the replacement master.

Can't always do that.  I've seen at least three different
rod-to-cylinder interfaces.  Not all were interchangeable.


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Re: [MBZ] Bleeding 240D clutch

2020-07-05 Thread fmiser via Mercedes
> Kaleb wrote:

> If you push pedal down all the way it stays down but will pop
> back up to the top on its own if you pop it up a little 

Once the lines and cylinders are full of oil, the clutch spring
will help push the master cylinder back to the top.

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Re: [MBZ] jasper transmissions

2020-07-05 Thread fmiser via Mercedes
> Allan wrote:

> Honda Element transmission went out and left me on the side of
> the road tonight.

I'm totally unfamiliar with the mechanicals of that car.

> Anyone familiar with Jasper transmissions?

Very large rebuilder of engines and transmissions.  Stock builds
only, from what I could find.

> DIY rebuild feasible? Never done that.

Automatic transmissions are doable.  Lots of small parts,
hydraulic system so clean is really important.  The only ones I've
done are GM longitudinal, non-electronic.  Very few specialty
tools needed for those.  For a Honda?  I don't know.

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Re: [MBZ] Bleeding 240D clutch

2020-07-05 Thread fmiser via Mercedes
> Kaleb wrote:

> I had to push the rod in about an 8th of an inch or less to get
> it to line up with the pedal mounting point. Would that make a
> difference?

YES!

That is too far in.  It won't bleed - and the master cylinder will
never get fresh fluid from the reservoir.  You must have a rod
that is not too long.

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Re: [MBZ] Bleeding 240D clutch

2020-07-05 Thread fmiser via Mercedes
> Kaleb wrote:

> ...have pumped the crap out the brake pedal and still no pedal
> action (pedal stays down, does not come back up).  I seem to
> recall reading something about certain brands of replacement
> master cylinder the rod does not come all the way back up.  I do
> know on this one in order to attach it to the brake pedal I had
> it push the rod in maybe an 8th of an inch or so.

That's the problem.

It will ONLY bleed if the master cylinder is ALL THE WAY out.  1/16" depressed 
blocked the port on mine.

> Otherwise, any other ideas for getting it bled?

I will never fill with fluid if that port is covered.  Shorten the
rod, either by adjusting the eccentric bolt or by grinding off the
end of the rod.

I think it was TRW brand that I got that I had to grind off the
rod.  It came with both a short and a long - and neither was right!

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Re: [MBZ] OT - Mini Split and More

2020-07-05 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
I haven’t opened it yet, so I’m not sure what the deal is with the hose. I’ll 
tear into it later today, I expect.

-D

> On Jul 5, 2020, at 10:47 AM, tyee165 via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> The thing that surprised me is that it managed to blow the condensate out and 
> there was no pan to empty like on a dehumidifier.Sent from my Galaxy Tab® A
>  Original message From: Mitch Haley via Mercedes 
>  Date: 2020-07-05  06:38  (GMT-06:00) To: Mercedes 
> Discussion List  Cc: mi...@mitchellhaley.com Subject: 
> Re: [MBZ] OT - Mini Split and More I had extremely low expectations when my 
> parents bought one.Let's draw 95° air into the house, heat it up to make cold 
> air, blow thehot air (and condensate from the cold air) out the tube, drawing 
> more 95°moist air into the building...but surprisingly enough, it seems to 
> workabout as well as a window unit.Mitch.On Sun, July 5, 2020 3:27 am, Scott 
> Ritchey via Mercedes wrote:> Be interesting to see how this work.  HVAC guys 
> put one in my house as a> temp fix.  Didn't do much good.  I don't see how a 
> single hose can 
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Re: [MBZ] OT - Mini Split and More

2020-07-05 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes
On Sun, July 5, 2020 10:41 am, tyee165 via Mercedes wrote:
> I think the single hose is actually a double hose with an inner and outer
> combined.

Some (more expensive) models have intake and exhaust, which I would assume
would need some degree of separation, or you'd just be sucking the exhaust
back in the intake.

The one my parents have is just a plain 4" exhaust. The various cracks in
the building provide the intake.

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[MBZ] ***SPAM*** RE: Barry Manilow

2020-07-05 Thread Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes
IMO it says a lot about the character of celebs to see how they treat us 
"nobodies" they meet in everyday life.

Greg

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Subject: Re: [MBZ] Barry Manilow

While it has been many years, in the summer in junior/senior years of high 
school and later before I was in tech school I used to drive a semi with a 
Landoll trailer carrying a 350kW generator set and cables to be used by the 
various tours as they went around the Midwest. A lot of the venues back in that 
time didn’t have adequate house power to run their whole show, so they would 
run the sound off house power and used our generator for lighting.

I would often follow a given show for a week at a time, sometimes more, as they 
toured around the Midwest. We also had a standing gig with Market Square Area 
and the Clay Courts in Indianapolis for the same thing, so in some cases I 
would be doing it during the rest of the year locally, too.

I was first in, last out. For a typical 8:00 pm show I had to be there no later 
than 8:00 am, sound check was usually around 2:00-3:00, then cool my heels 
until the show started. A lot of times we wouldn’t have everything struck at 
the prior venue until 2:00 - 3:00 am, which meant I might have to high tail it 
a couple hundred miles to the next venue, like maybe Louisville to Columbus or 
St. Louis, for example. Longer distances usually meant a travel day in between. 
Lots of sleeping in the truck.

Some of the artists I toured with:

Rush
Fleetwood Mac
Don Henley
Stevie Nicks
Kiss
Foreigner
Phil Collins
Def Leppard
Dire Straits
AC/DC
Journey
REO Speedwagon
Pat Benatar
ZZ Top
Heart
Toto
Kenny Loggins
Steve Winwood

I’m sure there were others, but these are the ones I recall. All I can say is 
that while it was fun, sort of, it made me realize what a crappy way to make a 
living it was. I had to carry a firearm because I always got paid in cash by 
the road manager before the end of the show, so I always had large sums of cash 
on me until the morning when I could deposit it if I could find the right bank 
where we were. I was not union, so at the union (IATSE) halls I had to have a 
union member “assigned” to me that made all the final connections and I pretty 
much just flipped the switch and made sure all was well. Once that was done I 
was free to hit the buffet if there was one for the crew.

My recollections about artists are as such:

Rush was the absolute best band to work for. They had a dedicated crew that 
toured exclusively with them, some of them having been with the band for some 
time. Food was excellent and they (Geddy Lee and Alex Lifeson) were always very 
nice and came by before the show to thank everyone. Molson and cold shrimp were 
some of the regular things on the after show buffet, and they always had a 
“to-go” kit of food and goodies for everyone on the crew after things were 
broken down/struck. A good breakfast was out on the morning of the show, too, 
with lots of fresh fruit and good things to eat.

Don Henley’s entourage was the worst. That was one of those “avert your eyes 
when the “artist” is moving through the wings and backstage.” A real douche. No 
buffet or food, a pile of order-out pizza and cooler full of generic soda was 
all they would put out, and it was rarely enough to feed everyone.

Keep in mind that food is always provided by the venue/promoter and costs the 
act a minimal amount of money, if any, as it’s factored into the cost of the 
show and spelled out in the rider in advance. That’s the contract that says “no 
brown M’s.” So if a tour does a crappy job on food for the crew, it’s on the 
tour, not the venue.

Understand that as a crew member you rarely see the talent. If you do, they’re 
moving through backstage from point A to point B with their entourage around 
them, so you often can’t even see them if you tried. The only ones I recall 
circulating backstage were Rush, ZZ Top and I think Kenny Loggins. They would 
often hang around and chat a little bit after the sound check. As I mentioned 
before, Rush would come around and thank everyone before the show.

I really don’t recall a lot of details, as it was 40 years ago, but those are 
the ones that stand out. The rest were pretty decent because they recognized 
the value of keeping the help happy. It was still a crappy gig, but I got paid 
pretty well for the time, I think $200/day in cash.

-D “Yeah, I’m with the band, baby”

> On Jul 4, 2020, at 6:07 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I just heard a Barry Manilow song and it reminded me of a story. A friend of 
> mine's wife has this part time gig where when shows come to town they do the 
> back stage stuff with costumes.  Anyway she was working a Barry Manilow 
> concert and apparently if they saw him coming none of them were allowed to 
> look at him.  They 

Re: [MBZ] ***SPAM*** RE: Barry Manilow

2020-07-05 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes
On Sun, July 5, 2020 11:25 am, Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes wrote:
> IMO it says a lot about the character of celebs to see how they treat us
> "nobodies" they meet in everyday life.

Or in extreme cases, see how much Hillary Rodham Clinton hates humans,
including those tasked with protecting her life.

Mitch

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Re: [MBZ] OT - Mini Split and More

2020-07-05 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes
On Sun, July 5, 2020 10:19 am, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
> This is what I thought about getting to blow on my in my immediate area
> in the shop.

If you can spend most of your time where you can feel the breeze, it
should make you feel a lot cooler for a kiloWatt or less. And it's on
wheels so you can aim it as needed. Being tethered to a 6-10' hose puts
limits on it though.
Making the whole building more comfortable would cost a whole lot more.

Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] OT - Mini Split and More

2020-07-05 Thread Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes
Yes insulate the garage door with foam sheet to reduce the heat load. And
be sure to seal the air inlet/outlet tightly at the wall or garage door,
and seal any gaps tight at the door edge.

On Sun, Jul 5, 2020, 9:47 AM Mitch Haley via Mercedes 
wrote:

> On Sun, July 5, 2020 10:19 am, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
> > This is what I thought about getting to blow on my in my immediate area
> > in the shop.
>
> If you can spend most of your time where you can feel the breeze, it
> should make you feel a lot cooler for a kiloWatt or less. And it's on
> wheels so you can aim it as needed. Being tethered to a 6-10' hose puts
> limits on it though.
> Making the whole building more comfortable would cost a whole lot more.
>
> Mitch.
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Re: [MBZ] jasper transmissions

2020-07-05 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes


If I wanted somebody else to rebuild a Japanese gearbox for me, I'd get a
hold of Anthony Storey, who as best as I can remember had a shop in the
Indianapolis area when I last talked to him 15 years ago.

He dabbled in airguns and rifle scopes, but his main source of income was
wholesale transmission rebuilding. (he did not work on cars, but if you
took him a transmission he'd fix it for you)

A quick DuckDuckGo and Bing search didn't get me much info, other than
he's been building silencers for airguns that have a pretty good
reputation. (my last dealing with Anthony was buying a target rifle he'd
built for himself that for whatever reason didn't work out to his
satisfaction)

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Re: [MBZ] OT - Mini Split and More

2020-07-05 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes
I had extremely low expectations when my parents bought one.
Let's draw 95° air into the house, heat it up to make cold air, blow the
hot air (and condensate from the cold air) out the tube, drawing more 95°
moist air into the building...but surprisingly enough, it seems to work
about as well as a window unit.
Mitch.

On Sun, July 5, 2020 3:27 am, Scott Ritchey via Mercedes wrote:
> Be interesting to see how this work.  HVAC guys put one in my house as a
> temp fix.  Didn't do much good.  I don't see how a single hose can work.


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Re: [MBZ] OT - Mini Split and More

2020-07-05 Thread Scott Ritchey via Mercedes
Be interesting to see how this work.  HVAC guys put one in my house as a temp 
fix.  Didn't do much good.  I don't see how a single hose can work. 

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> Penoff via Mercedes
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> Subject: [MBZ] OT - Mini Split and More
> 
> So my HVAC engineer neighbor was over the other night and I was asking him
> about his opinion on a mini-split in the garage…
> 
> His take? Buy a portable 12,000 BTU unit and use that, forget about a mini-
> split.
> 
> I bought one at Lowe’s today. I’m going to try it out in the morning tomorrow.
> It should be a pretty wicked test, as we’ve been having 95+ degree days of 
> late
> with heat indexes approaching 100. This can also act as a backup for the house
> in the event that the house AC pukes for whatever reason - we can use it to
> cool a couple of rooms in an emergency.
> 
> I’ve got to do distributor caps, rotors and insulators on the 420E, so I’ll 
> pull it in
> early, shut the door and fire this thing up and see how it does. Not sure how
> I’m going to vent it at present, but that’s something I can work out.
> 
> He also suggested that I insulate the garage doors, too.
> 
> More as I know it.
> 
> I also bought my hybrid electric water heater. I was planning on doing this in
> August, since I just dropped $6k last week on a new AC system for the house,
> which is working quite well, I would add. While I was wandering the aisles of
> Lowe’s I went by the water heaters to see if they still had any of the one I
> wanted. They did, and it was marked down $300 from the regular $1299.
> Bought the last one they had and let them carry the paper for 18 months, too.
> 
> So maybe next weekend I’ll have the resident plumber install the new water
> heater. I already had him survey the existing setup to determine what he’ll
> need to do the job, so that’s done. Another significant decrease in energy
> consumption, *and* some cooling for the garage as well.
> 
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Re: [MBZ] OT - Mini Split and More

2020-07-05 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes
On Sun, July 5, 2020 3:19 pm, Scott Ritchey via Mercedes wrote:
> I eagerly await Dan's experience but I am skeptical.  I don't see how it
> can suck in warm outside air and exhaust even-warmer air through the same
> duct/hose (unless it's coaxial).

The suck in is through the side of the housing, not the hose.
It's not outside air, it's conditioned room air that you're going to throw
outside when you're done heating it, so unconditioned outside air can be
sucked into the room through whatever leaks it can find.

Yeah, when you think about it, holy cow that sounds stupid.
But, as I said earlier, the one in my parents' living room actually seems
to work, although I'm sure the interior humidity is much higher than it
should be with a real air conditioner.

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Re: [MBZ] Bleeding 240D clutch

2020-07-05 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
 I didn't say it would always work. ;)
-Curt

On Sunday, July 5, 2020, 2:37:17 AM EDT, fmiser  wrote:  
 
 > Curt wrote:

> Have you checked to see if the line from the master to the slave
> is clear? Maybe that was the problem all along. My suggestion is
> to use the rod from the car, not the replacement master.

Can't always do that.  I've seen at least three different
rod-to-cylinder interfaces.  Not all were interchangeable.

  
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Re: [MBZ] Bleeding 240D clutch

2020-07-05 Thread Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
I just bought 8 ft of clear tubing. Will run it out from under the car to where 
I can watch the reservoir then cut the length I need. I will then pump the line 
full of fluid before hooking it up to the bleeder on slave cylinder. Then start 
pumping. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 5, 2020, at 2:52 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
>  I didn't say it would always work. ;)
> -Curt
> 
>>On Sunday, July 5, 2020, 2:37:17 AM EDT, fmiser  wrote: 
>>  
>> 
>> Curt wrote:
> 
>> Have you checked to see if the line from the master to the slave
>> is clear? Maybe that was the problem all along. My suggestion is
>> to use the rod from the car, not the replacement master.
> 
> Can't always do that.  I've seen at least three different
> rod-to-cylinder interfaces.  Not all were interchangeable.
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Fakebook 124 AC idiocy

2020-07-05 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
Interesting ... How many timing chains have been replaced? Have you
measured the chain stretch?
Marshall said that the synthetic drastically reduced the rate of chain wear
and that it was measurable. You might be able to confirm or debunk that.

On Sat, Jul 4, 2020 at 8:20 PM ROGER HALE via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Well, I hate to even chime in here, but...  I know some of you are purist,
> but my 1983 300D with over 360,000 miles .  It also has only run Dino
> 15x40 Mobil, no synthetic.
> Best Wishes and Happy 4th,
> Roger
>

-- 
OK Don

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Re: [MBZ] Barry Manilow

2020-07-05 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
My mother and rode an elevator with JFK one winter evening in '58 when he
was a US Senator visiting the Donnell public library in NYC to give a
talk.  No security at all - just the two of us sharing a small space with
an incredibly distinguished looking man in a blue cashmere overcoat.  My
mother told him he was one of her favorites, and he graciously acknowledged
the compliment.  Even then as a mere 12 yo I knew he was special.

On Sat, Jul 4, 2020 at 11:16 PM Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> I got to hang out with the guys in Mountain one afternoon at the airport
> (FWA) where I worked summers. There were thunderstorms around that
> prevented their plane from coming to pick them up for 3-4 hours. Because of
> that everything was dead so I just hung out in the office with them. They
> were really tired and bored but also just really nice regular guys. We just
> chitchatted a bit, I mostly left them alone. I think I might have run to
> get them lunch or something from the airport diner  They read and rested,
> were happy to leave, thanked me.
>
> When I told my friends later they thought I was a god.
>
> I saw James Brown one night too for a minute. THAT was an experience.
>
> --FT
> Sent from iPhone
>
> > On Jul 4, 2020, at 8:08 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > While it has been many years, in the summer in junior/senior years of
> high school and later before I was in tech school I used to drive a semi
> with a Landoll trailer carrying a 350kW generator set and cables to be used
> by the various tours as they went around the Midwest. A lot of the venues
> back in that time didn’t have adequate house power to run their whole show,
> so they would run the sound off house power and used our generator for
> lighting.
> >
> > I would often follow a given show for a week at a time, sometimes more,
> as they toured around the Midwest. We also had a standing gig with Market
> Square Area and the Clay Courts in Indianapolis for the same thing, so in
> some cases I would be doing it during the rest of the year locally, too.
> >
> > I was first in, last out. For a typical 8:00 pm show I had to be there
> no later than 8:00 am, sound check was usually around 2:00-3:00, then cool
> my heels until the show started. A lot of times we wouldn’t have everything
> struck at the prior venue until 2:00 - 3:00 am, which meant I might have to
> high tail it a couple hundred miles to the next venue, like maybe
> Louisville to Columbus or St. Louis, for example. Longer distances usually
> meant a travel day in between. Lots of sleeping in the truck.
> >
> > Some of the artists I toured with:
> >
> > Rush
> > Fleetwood Mac
> > Don Henley
> > Stevie Nicks
> > Kiss
> > Foreigner
> > Phil Collins
> > Def Leppard
> > Dire Straits
> > AC/DC
> > Journey
> > REO Speedwagon
> > Pat Benatar
> > ZZ Top
> > Heart
> > Toto
> > Kenny Loggins
> > Steve Winwood
> >
> > I’m sure there were others, but these are the ones I recall. All I can
> say is that while it was fun, sort of, it made me realize what a crappy way
> to make a living it was. I had to carry a firearm because I always got paid
> in cash by the road manager before the end of the show, so I always had
> large sums of cash on me until the morning when I could deposit it if I
> could find the right bank where we were. I was not union, so at the union
> (IATSE) halls I had to have a union member “assigned” to me that made all
> the final connections and I pretty much just flipped the switch and made
> sure all was well. Once that was done I was free to hit the buffet if there
> was one for the crew.
> >
> > My recollections about artists are as such:
> >
> > Rush was the absolute best band to work for. They had a dedicated crew
> that toured exclusively with them, some of them having been with the band
> for some time. Food was excellent and they (Geddy Lee and Alex Lifeson)
> were always very nice and came by before the show to thank everyone. Molson
> and cold shrimp were some of the regular things on the after show buffet,
> and they always had a “to-go” kit of food and goodies for everyone on the
> crew after things were broken down/struck. A good breakfast was out on the
> morning of the show, too, with lots of fresh fruit and good things to eat.
> >
> > Don Henley’s entourage was the worst. That was one of those “avert your
> eyes when the “artist” is moving through the wings and backstage.” A real
> douche. No buffet or food, a pile of order-out pizza and cooler full of
> generic soda was all they would put out, and it was rarely enough to feed
> everyone.
> >
> > Keep in mind that food is always provided by the venue/promoter and
> costs the act a minimal amount of money, if any, as it’s factored into the
> cost of the show and spelled out in the rider in advance. That’s the
> contract that says “no brown M’s.” So if a tour does a crappy job on food
> for the crew, it’s on the tour, not the venue.
> >
> > 

Re: [MBZ] ***SPAM*** RE: Barry Manilow

2020-07-05 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Alright, this is not going to go into politics. Drop it.

-D/ListMom/Lil Hilter


> On Jul 5, 2020, at 3:10 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Trump's secret service detail is coming down with covid 19 as he travels
> the country.  How's that for showing some respect for those who guard his
> life?
> 
> On Sun, Jul 5, 2020 at 11:38 AM Mitch Haley via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> On Sun, July 5, 2020 11:25 am, Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes wrote:
>>> IMO it says a lot about the character of celebs to see how they treat us
>>> "nobodies" they meet in everyday life.
>> 
>> Or in extreme cases, see how much Hillary Rodham Clinton hates humans,
>> including those tasked with protecting her life.
>> 
>> Mitch
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Re: [MBZ] Barry Manilow

2020-07-05 Thread Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
He would have never been elected now days. Does ask what you can do for your 
country sound like it would fly now days?

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 5, 2020, at 1:54 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> My mother and rode an elevator with JFK one winter evening in '58 when he
> was a US Senator visiting the Donnell public library in NYC to give a
> talk.  No security at all - just the two of us sharing a small space with
> an incredibly distinguished looking man in a blue cashmere overcoat.  My
> mother told him he was one of her favorites, and he graciously acknowledged
> the compliment.  Even then as a mere 12 yo I knew he was special.
> 
>> On Sat, Jul 4, 2020 at 11:16 PM Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>> I got to hang out with the guys in Mountain one afternoon at the airport
>> (FWA) where I worked summers. There were thunderstorms around that
>> prevented their plane from coming to pick them up for 3-4 hours. Because of
>> that everything was dead so I just hung out in the office with them. They
>> were really tired and bored but also just really nice regular guys. We just
>> chitchatted a bit, I mostly left them alone. I think I might have run to
>> get them lunch or something from the airport diner  They read and rested,
>> were happy to leave, thanked me.
>> 
>> When I told my friends later they thought I was a god.
>> 
>> I saw James Brown one night too for a minute. THAT was an experience.
>> 
>> --FT
>> Sent from iPhone
>> 
>>> On Jul 4, 2020, at 8:08 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> While it has been many years, in the summer in junior/senior years of
>> high school and later before I was in tech school I used to drive a semi
>> with a Landoll trailer carrying a 350kW generator set and cables to be used
>> by the various tours as they went around the Midwest. A lot of the venues
>> back in that time didn’t have adequate house power to run their whole show,
>> so they would run the sound off house power and used our generator for
>> lighting.
>>> 
>>> I would often follow a given show for a week at a time, sometimes more,
>> as they toured around the Midwest. We also had a standing gig with Market
>> Square Area and the Clay Courts in Indianapolis for the same thing, so in
>> some cases I would be doing it during the rest of the year locally, too.
>>> 
>>> I was first in, last out. For a typical 8:00 pm show I had to be there
>> no later than 8:00 am, sound check was usually around 2:00-3:00, then cool
>> my heels until the show started. A lot of times we wouldn’t have everything
>> struck at the prior venue until 2:00 - 3:00 am, which meant I might have to
>> high tail it a couple hundred miles to the next venue, like maybe
>> Louisville to Columbus or St. Louis, for example. Longer distances usually
>> meant a travel day in between. Lots of sleeping in the truck.
>>> 
>>> Some of the artists I toured with:
>>> 
>>> Rush
>>> Fleetwood Mac
>>> Don Henley
>>> Stevie Nicks
>>> Kiss
>>> Foreigner
>>> Phil Collins
>>> Def Leppard
>>> Dire Straits
>>> AC/DC
>>> Journey
>>> REO Speedwagon
>>> Pat Benatar
>>> ZZ Top
>>> Heart
>>> Toto
>>> Kenny Loggins
>>> Steve Winwood
>>> 
>>> I’m sure there were others, but these are the ones I recall. All I can
>> say is that while it was fun, sort of, it made me realize what a crappy way
>> to make a living it was. I had to carry a firearm because I always got paid
>> in cash by the road manager before the end of the show, so I always had
>> large sums of cash on me until the morning when I could deposit it if I
>> could find the right bank where we were. I was not union, so at the union
>> (IATSE) halls I had to have a union member “assigned” to me that made all
>> the final connections and I pretty much just flipped the switch and made
>> sure all was well. Once that was done I was free to hit the buffet if there
>> was one for the crew.
>>> 
>>> My recollections about artists are as such:
>>> 
>>> Rush was the absolute best band to work for. They had a dedicated crew
>> that toured exclusively with them, some of them having been with the band
>> for some time. Food was excellent and they (Geddy Lee and Alex Lifeson)
>> were always very nice and came by before the show to thank everyone. Molson
>> and cold shrimp were some of the regular things on the after show buffet,
>> and they always had a “to-go” kit of food and goodies for everyone on the
>> crew after things were broken down/struck. A good breakfast was out on the
>> morning of the show, too, with lots of fresh fruit and good things to eat.
>>> 
>>> Don Henley’s entourage was the worst. That was one of those “avert your
>> eyes when the “artist” is moving through the wings and backstage.” A real
>> douche. No buffet or food, a pile of order-out pizza and cooler full of
>> generic soda was all they would put out, and it was rarely enough to feed
>> everyone.
>>> 
>>> Keep in mind that food is always provided 

Re: [MBZ] OT - Mini Split and More

2020-07-05 Thread Allan Streib via Mercedes
tyee165 via Mercedes  writes:

> The thing that surprised me is that it managed to blow the condensate
> out and there was no pan to empty like on a dehumidifier.

I had a small window unit that I used in a camper. It had no drain for
condensate. The condensor fan would dip into the accumulated condensate
from the evap and fling it up against the condensor, where it
evaporated, providing some additional cooling for the condensor and no
drips. Maybe this does something similar.

Allan

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Re: [MBZ] ***SPAM*** RE: Barry Manilow

2020-07-05 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Trump's secret service detail is coming down with covid 19 as he travels
the country.  How's that for showing some respect for those who guard his
life?

On Sun, Jul 5, 2020 at 11:38 AM Mitch Haley via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> On Sun, July 5, 2020 11:25 am, Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes wrote:
> > IMO it says a lot about the character of celebs to see how they treat us
> > "nobodies" they meet in everyday life.
>
> Or in extreme cases, see how much Hillary Rodham Clinton hates humans,
> including those tasked with protecting her life.
>
> Mitch
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Re: [MBZ] OT - Mini Split and More

2020-07-05 Thread Scott Ritchey via Mercedes
I eagerly await Dan's experience but I am skeptical.  I don't see how it can 
suck in warm outside air and exhaust even-warmer air through the same duct/hose 
(unless it's coaxial).  Also, I don't see how the airflow through a 4 in hose 
can begin to match the air flow through a mini-split outdoor unit.  I just 
don't see how the physics can work.

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> Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - Mini Split and More
> 
> The thing that surprised me is that it managed to blow the condensate out and
> there was no pan to empty like on a dehumidifier.Sent from my Galaxy Tab® A
>  Original message From: Mitch Haley via Mercedes
>  Date: 2020-07-05  06:38  (GMT-06:00) To:
> Mercedes Discussion List  Cc:
> mi...@mitchellhaley.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - Mini Split and More I had
> extremely low expectations when my parents bought one.Let's draw 95° air
> into the house, heat it up to make cold air, blow thehot air (and condensate
> from the cold air) out the tube, drawing more 95°moist air into the
> building...but surprisingly enough, it seems to workabout as well as a window
> unit.Mitch.On Sun, July 5, 2020 3:27 am, Scott Ritchey via Mercedes wrote:>
> Be interesting to see how this work.  HVAC guys put one in my house as a>
> temp fix.  Didn't do much good.  I don't see how a single hose can
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Re: [MBZ] Bleeding 240D clutch

2020-07-05 Thread Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
See next posts where I unbolted the rod from the pedal to allow it to freely 
extend and still couldn’t bleed it. Going to try the oil can method next.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 5, 2020, at 1:33 AM, fmiser via Mercedes  wrote:
> 
> 
>> 
>> Kaleb wrote:
> 
>> I had to push the rod in about an 8th of an inch or less to get
>> it to line up with the pedal mounting point. Would that make a
>> difference?
> 
> YES!
> 
> That is too far in.  It won't bleed - and the master cylinder will
> never get fresh fluid from the reservoir.  You must have a rod
> that is not too long.
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Re: [MBZ] OT - Mini Split and More

2020-07-05 Thread Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
This is what I thought about getting to blow on my in my immediate area in the 
shop. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 5, 2020, at 6:38 AM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> I had extremely low expectations when my parents bought one.
> Let's draw 95° air into the house, heat it up to make cold air, blow the
> hot air (and condensate from the cold air) out the tube, drawing more 95°
> moist air into the building...but surprisingly enough, it seems to work
> about as well as a window unit.
> Mitch.
> 
>> On Sun, July 5, 2020 3:27 am, Scott Ritchey via Mercedes wrote:
>> Be interesting to see how this work.  HVAC guys put one in my house as a
>> temp fix.  Didn't do much good.  I don't see how a single hose can work.
> 
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Re: [MBZ] OT - Mini Split and More

2020-07-05 Thread tyee165 via Mercedes
I think the single hose is actually a double hose with an inner and outer 
combined. My nephew brought one out to the cottage and it worked well 
enough.Sent from my Galaxy Tab® A
 Original message From: Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
 Date: 2020-07-05  09:19  (GMT-06:00) To: Mercedes 
Discussion List  Cc: Kaleb Striplin  
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - Mini Split and More This is what I thought about 
getting to blow on my in my immediate area in the shop. Sent from my iPhone> On 
Jul 5, 2020, at 6:38 AM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes  
wrote:> > I had extremely low expectations when my parents bought one.> Let's 
draw 95° air into the house, heat it up to make cold air, blow the> hot air 
(and condensate from the cold air) out the tube, drawing more 95°> moist air 
into the building...but surprisingly enough, it seems to work> about as well as 
a window unit.> Mitch.> >> On Sun, July 5, 2020 3:27 am, Scott Ritchey via 
Mercedes wrote:>> Be interesting to see how this work.  HVAC guys put one in my 
house as a>> temp fix.  Didn't do much good.  I don't see how a single hose can 
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Re: [MBZ] OT - Mini Split and More

2020-07-05 Thread tyee165 via Mercedes
The thing that surprised me is that it managed to blow the condensate out and 
there was no pan to empty like on a dehumidifier.Sent from my Galaxy Tab® A
 Original message From: Mitch Haley via Mercedes 
 Date: 2020-07-05  06:38  (GMT-06:00) To: Mercedes 
Discussion List  Cc: mi...@mitchellhaley.com Subject: 
Re: [MBZ] OT - Mini Split and More I had extremely low expectations when my 
parents bought one.Let's draw 95° air into the house, heat it up to make cold 
air, blow thehot air (and condensate from the cold air) out the tube, drawing 
more 95°moist air into the building...but surprisingly enough, it seems to 
workabout as well as a window unit.Mitch.On Sun, July 5, 2020 3:27 am, Scott 
Ritchey via Mercedes wrote:> Be interesting to see how this work.  HVAC guys 
put one in my house as a> temp fix.  Didn't do much good.  I don't see how a 
single hose can 
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Re: [MBZ] OT - Mini Split and More

2020-07-05 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
I’m not sure how effective it would be given the volume fo your shop. Maybe if 
you cordoned off an area with a big curtain, like a welding curtain, or 
something like that it might work?

I’m just trying to cool a roughly 20’ by 20’ garage. The one I got is rated for 
400 SF, so theoretically, it should work. I’m not worried as much about 
temperature as I am about humidity. I also need to figure out how to vent it, 
as doing it under the partially opened garage doors opens other areas to 
outside air, like at the top of the door.

More as I know it.

-D

> On Jul 5, 2020, at 10:19 AM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> This is what I thought about getting to blow on my in my immediate area in 
> the shop. 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jul 5, 2020, at 6:38 AM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> I had extremely low expectations when my parents bought one.
>> Let's draw 95° air into the house, heat it up to make cold air, blow the
>> hot air (and condensate from the cold air) out the tube, drawing more 95°
>> moist air into the building...but surprisingly enough, it seems to work
>> about as well as a window unit.
>> Mitch.
>> 
>>> On Sun, July 5, 2020 3:27 am, Scott Ritchey via Mercedes wrote:
>>> Be interesting to see how this work.  HVAC guys put one in my house as a
>>> temp fix.  Didn't do much good.  I don't see how a single hose can work.
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] OT - Mini Split and More

2020-07-05 Thread tyee165 via Mercedes
If you don't have a window that opens then I suggest you cut a hole in the wall 
to install it.Sent from my Galaxy Tab® A
 Original message From: Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
 Date: 2020-07-05  09:29  (GMT-06:00) To: Okie Benz 
 Cc: Dan Penoff  Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT 
- Mini Split and More I’m not sure how effective it would be given the volume 
fo your shop. Maybe if you cordoned off an area with a big curtain, like a 
welding curtain, or something like that it might work?I’m just trying to cool a 
roughly 20’ by 20’ garage. The one I got is rated for 400 SF, so theoretically, 
it should work. I’m not worried as much about temperature as I am about 
humidity. I also need to figure out how to vent it, as doing it under the 
partially opened garage doors opens other areas to outside air, like at the top 
of the door.More as I know it.-D> On Jul 5, 2020, at 10:19 AM, Kaleb Striplin 
via Mercedes  wrote:> > This is what I thought about 
getting to blow on my in my immediate area in the shop. > > Sent from my 
iPhone> >> On Jul 5, 2020, at 6:38 AM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes 
 wrote:>> >> I had extremely low expectations when my 
parents bought one.>> Let's draw 95° air into the house, heat it up to make 
cold air, blow the>> hot air (and condensate from the cold air) out the tube, 
drawing more 95°>> moist air into the building...but surprisingly enough, it 
seems to work>> about as well as a window unit.>> Mitch.>> >>> On Sun, July 5, 
2020 3:27 am, Scott Ritchey via Mercedes wrote:>>> Be interesting to see how 
this work.  HVAC guys put one in my house as a>>> temp fix.  Didn't do much 
good.  I don't see how a single hose can work.>> >> >> 
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