Re: [MBZ] Bad car names (was: Re: The Wave)
I like TuRD much better. Dodge adds the acronym SLT to some of its trucks...anyone care to guess what that works out to in my juvenile little mind? On 5/5/06, R A Bennell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Toyota Racing Development (I think) - supposed to be like putting AMG on a MB? Decals make em faster, right? Randy B Casey Olympia, WA Biodiesel: I drive in a persistent vegetative state '87 300TD intercooler #22 (214k) '84 300D (212k) Gashuffer: '89 Vanagon Wolfsburg Edition (187K)
Re: [MBZ] Bad car names
Zeitgeist wrote: I like TuRD much better. Dodge adds the acronym SLT to some of its trucks...anyone care to guess what that works out to in my juvenile little mind? Salt? -- John L. Ervine 1981 240D 4-spd 270+kmi 1980 300TD 175+kmi 1980 300SD 277+kmi 1977 280S 4-spd 81+kmi 1976 350SE 4-spd 163+kmi
[MBZ] Bad car names
Hi, All. Was following a dark blue Chevrolet Cobalt today and thought Hmmm cobalt, one of three magnetic materials, attractive color, and horribly toxic, just like a Chevrolet! Up yur moose! Fred Moir Lynn MA Oh Lord won't you buy me a Mercedes Benz Janis Joplin - Blab-away for as little as 1¢/min. Make PC-to-Phone Calls using Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sat May 06 00:54:04 2006 Received: from ens9.eatel.net ([209.124.203.19]) by server5.arterytc5.net with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.52) id 1FcB3a-0003lE-Ug for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Sat, 06 May 2006 00:54:03 + Received: (qmail 11680 invoked by uid 89); 6 May 2006 00:53:58 - Received: from unknown (HELO eatel.net) ([EMAIL PROTECTED]@66.186.245.84) by 0 with SMTP; 6 May 2006 00:53:58 - Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, 05 May 2006 19:53:38 -0500 From: Russ Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.6) Gecko/20040113 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Subject: Re: [MBZ] Got a new phone X-BeenThere: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Id: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes_striplin.net.striplin.net List-Unsubscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: http://striplin.net/pipermail/mercedes_striplin.net List-Post: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 06 May 2006 00:54:06 - Rick, You can use this web site to upload it to and Kaleb can download it from there http://www.yousendit.com/ It will send Kaleb an email with the link if you put his email addy in the notification space. I use it to send files over 10 megs all the time. It's free but you have to sign up. Russ W. Rick Knoble wrote: Kaleb, I tried to email this thing a couple times, it is a 47mb file and it is just too damn big. Gimme your addy off list and I will send it snail mail Or if you are on yhaoo messenger, gimme your id and I might be able to send it that way Rick Knoble '85 300 CD '87 190 DT yea, could you email that to me?? Thanks Rick Knoble wrote: OK, another question, you know how you can download those stupid ringtones? Well if you use bluetooth, or in my case, the cable, can you upload your own songs to the phone to use as ringtones? Yeah, if you have the software. I downloaded the software from a file sharing site. You want it? I could email it to you or send you a CD ROM. Rick Knoble '85 300 CD '87 190 DT ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] Got a new phone
Cool I will do that. Rick Knoble '85 300 CD '87 190 DT - Original Message - From: Russ Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 05, 2006 7:53 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Got a new phone Rick, You can use this web site to upload it to and Kaleb can download it from there http://www.yousendit.com/ It will send Kaleb an email with the link if you put his email addy in the notification space. I use it to send files over 10 megs all the time. It's free but you have to sign up. Russ W. Rick Knoble wrote: Kaleb, I tried to email this thing a couple times, it is a 47mb file and it is just too damn big. Gimme your addy off list and I will send it snail mail Or if you are on yhaoo messenger, gimme your id and I might be able to send it that way Rick Knoble '85 300 CD '87 190 DT yea, could you email that to me?? Thanks Rick Knoble wrote: OK, another question, you know how you can download those stupid ringtones? Well if you use bluetooth, or in my case, the cable, can you upload your own songs to the phone to use as ringtones? Yeah, if you have the software. I downloaded the software from a file sharing site. You want it? I could email it to you or send you a CD ROM. Rick Knoble '85 300 CD '87 190 DT ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] 95 E300D St. Louis $3500
let me know, its been pulled tom savage wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Doesn't $3500 seem awfully cheap? Might there be something wrong with it?? You mean like it needs an evaporator, wiring harness, and head removal because a glowplug is broken off in the head? Perish the thought! It is very cheap. I sent the guy an email; if it is still available I'll see if I can check it out tomorrow for curiosity's sake. Tom ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 420SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 190D 2.2, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 73 280SEL 4.5, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] Boxster engine cover
Yes, the Boxster's engine cannot be seen from the top - it's not *very* easy to see from underneath! The top view gets a look at the top of the engine shroud/cover and little else. Someone once thought some bright person would make a clear cover so people could see a little bit of the engine - a la' F360. The covers over the top of the Boxster's engine can be removed in about five minutes. It's a requirement in PCA Concours. RLE
[MBZ] Autobahn crash
http://www.marax.at/funpix/porsche_mega_crash.html
[MBZ] Street racing in Dubai
http://www.marax.at/funpix/arab_street_racing.htm
Re: [MBZ] Street racing in Dubai
Pretty cool, but aren't the men 'sposed to gouge their eyes out or something after they have seen a woman clad like that? Rick Knoble '85 300 CD '87 190 DT - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 05, 2006 9:00 PM Subject: [MBZ] Street racing in Dubai http://www.marax.at/funpix/arab_street_racing.htm ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] The Wave - Focus US vs. Euro
BillR wrote: Just after I got my 'first year' Focus [which gave me 50 wonderful trouble free miles prior to the first breakdown] I chatted with a guy in London that had one that certainly looked identical to mine, though the wheel was on the right side, of course. What was different about it - other than it hopefully had far fewer recalls? I looked it up to be sure. It seems the story is both cars were the same until 2004, when Europe got an all-new Focus, while the U.S. got the old platform with a facelift.
Re: [MBZ] Autobahn crash
On Fri, 5 May 2006 21:57:51 EDT [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.marax.at/funpix/porsche_mega_crash.html Mega crash is certainly appropriate. I wonder what caused him to lose control. You can see in the fourth picture that he was driving along a straight road and then swerved to the right. It looks like he was already spinning long before he crossed the merge lane. Craig
Re: [MBZ] Street racing in Dubai
I think they are supposed to, but they could just go buy new eyes. Seems like there is metric butt-loads of moola flowing around thereand I bet you and I helped pay for some of those sweet rides with the $3.199 #2 we're buying lately. Bob Rentfro - Original Message - From: Rick Knoble [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 05, 2006 7:30 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Street racing in Dubai Pretty cool, but aren't the men 'sposed to gouge their eyes out or something after they have seen a woman clad like that? Rick Knoble '85 300 CD '87 190 DT - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 05, 2006 9:00 PM Subject: [MBZ] Street racing in Dubai http://www.marax.at/funpix/arab_street_racing.htm ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] Heat/AC Fan speed switch
On Wed, 3 May 2006 23:10:36 -0700 Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If that's the case, it's TOTALLY different from my '82 240D. The fan switch controls just the fan. There are two sliders just below the dash vent that control the air to the defrosters and floor vents. We're talking about the three-dial jobs. Like this: http://cathey.dogear.com/mb240d/console.JPG Note that the fan dial is in the fan-off but vent-on position in this photograph. That's usually where I leave it. I have a three-dial jobbie, too, as the attached photograph shows. It has two sliding levers for the vents and a temperature wheel for controlling the A/C. Craig -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: console.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 84686 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://striplin.net/pipermail/mercedes_striplin.net/attachments/20060505/39af7c24/console.jpg
Re: [MBZ] Heat/AC Fan speed switch
I have a three-dial jobbie, too, as the attached photograph shows. It has two sliding levers for the vents and a temperature wheel for controlling the A/C. I've seen that one before in the junkyards. Looks like the two sliding levers' actions are combined in my car, and my mechanical AC thermostat replaced with an electronic one, but otherwise pretty much the same. Still looks like it has the extra 90 degrees of rotation on the fan switch, I'm guessing it's still hooked to a master vent shutoff. (Skunk or dust storm mode.) -- Jim
Re: [MBZ] Heat/AC Fan speed switch
Funny: The wife and I have become real users of the outside air shutoff feature (talking about her Honda CRV). We so dislike cigarette smoke (and it seems that her CRV has a more pronounced tendency to inhale outside fumes) that when someone in the car infront of us is smoking, or someone standing along side the road is, we hit that inside air only button. Also useful for when next to a big pickup tailpipe or passing this particularly stinky refining plant between Rochester and the Twin Cities. Also: I always knew about the Max AC setting in the family car growing up, but it was not until surprisingly recently that I realized that what it does is shut off the outside air inlet, and begin to recirculate the inside air which is, when appropriately used, much cooler than outside air. Brian Jim Wrote: Still looks like it has the extra 90 degrees of rotation on the fan switch, I'm guessing it's still hooked to a master vent shutoff. (Skunk or dust storm mode.)
Re: [MBZ] Bad car names
No, but I must say that when DSL came out in the world of computers, I had to LMAO. Brian On 5/5/06, John Ervine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Zeitgeist wrote: I like TuRD much better. Dodge adds the acronym SLT to some of its trucks...anyone care to guess what that works out to in my juvenile little mind? Salt? -- John L. Ervine 1981 240D 4-spd 270+kmi 1980 300TD 175+kmi 1980 300SD 277+kmi 1977 280S 4-spd 81+kmi 1976 350SE 4-spd 163+kmi ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] The Wave - Focus US vs. Euro
Thanks - I have slept since then and was hoping my memory was not that bad. Sounds like they did so poorly with the first year car here [though it was in use in Europe before then] they decided not to try the second time. I still think it was a nice car to drive as long as you were not personally responsible for repairing the flaws. BillR -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Brodbeck Sent: Friday, May 05, 2006 10:50 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] The Wave - Focus US vs. Euro BillR wrote: Just after I got my 'first year' Focus [which gave me 50 wonderful trouble free miles prior to the first breakdown] I chatted with a guy in London that had one that certainly looked identical to mine, though the wheel was on the right side, of course. What was different about it - other than it hopefully had far fewer recalls? I looked it up to be sure. It seems the story is both cars were the same until 2004, when Europe got an all-new Focus, while the U.S. got the old platform with a facelift. ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] Street racing in Dubai
Seems like there is metric butt-loads of moola flowing around thereand I bet you and I helped pay for some of those sweet rides with the $3.199 #2 we're buying lately. Bob Rentfro One of my 'favorite' stories from a lady who was working over there had to do with the penchant for not repairing a car. You just steered it off the road and bought a new one. She had seen that done with a Rolls Royce. Yeah, I'd say price is not a big object with many locals. Then there is the report [though this one is not from one who saw it personally] of the girl who was given a 747 for her 16th BD. Probably safer in that than any car she would have wanted [assuming she didn't try to drive it herself]. BillR
[MBZ] Why a W126 is a good thing
Last weekend, 1800 miles to go to the Fuel Meet in Bristol, TN. 3 Guys, Cooler and stuff. Satellite radio on the Oldies station 75/80 mph, steady as a rock, 25.6 mpg average. This is a great road car. -- Regards, Peter T. Arnold 1987 300SDL 242 KMI 1995 F-250 PowerChoke 193Kmi 1954 Metropolitan Convertible, Hanger Queen Wife has a Cruizer, 80 Kmi, as reliable as an Ice Box, the car that is!
Re: [MBZ] Why a W126 is a good thing
Amen. Say Autobahn-mobile! :-) My 300TD wagon is also extremely stable at higher cruising speeds, FYI...but a totally different feel comapred to a 126. I really like both, but they are apples and oranges...very different. CM - whose SD is out of commission for 24 hours until the RTV dries on the little copper cap where my EGR USED to be... :-) (YES!) Peter T. Arnold [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Last weekend, 1800 miles to go to the Fuel Meet in Bristol, TN. 3 Guys, Cooler and stuff. Satellite radio on the Oldies station 75/80 mph, steady as a rock, 25.6 mpg average. This is a great road car. -- Regards, Peter T. Arnold 1987 300SDL 242 KMI 1995 F-250 PowerChoke 193Kmi 1954 Metropolitan Convertible, Hanger Queen Wife has a Cruizer, 80 Kmi, as reliable as an Ice Box, the car that is! ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net Christopher McCann, Squier Park, Kansas City, Missouri -1987 300TD, 152K, Rotkäppchen -1985 300SD, 213K, Wulf -1971 Case 222 Hydrive, One Banger Ich bin stolz ein deutscher Amerikaner zu sein! - How low will we go? Check out Yahoo! Messengers low PC-to-Phone call rates. From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sat May 06 13:37:47 2006 Received: from nz-out-0102.google.com ([64.233.162.199]) by server5.arterytc5.net with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FcMyh-0002nv-1d for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Sat, 06 May 2006 13:37:47 + Received: by nz-out-0102.google.com with SMTP id 13so788786nzp for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Sat, 06 May 2006 06:37:43 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=QtdaIM1YBlQf/nmjTKL3HqR1HGtBDjDdfd+nD67hqEEkBPf83sxVQAe7RxnFAKTBs9AM6zhA0UoinTjVe1CAxeZwkMG6sj/CS1oIAPmWdnzShYW+gPa2s9GKD985dAsQsaCrV0xjQy0hTjl/h2ATjsN7foZ6f1CfBuglAVv5ow4= Received: by 10.65.105.8 with SMTP id h8mr187904qbm; Sat, 06 May 2006 06:37:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.65.105.3 with HTTP; Sat, 6 May 2006 06:37:43 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sat, 6 May 2006 09:37:43 -0400 From: Tony Wirtel [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.6 Subject: Re: [MBZ] 95 E300D St. Louis $3500 X-BeenThere: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Id: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes_striplin.net.striplin.net List-Unsubscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: http://striplin.net/pipermail/mercedes_striplin.net List-Post: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 06 May 2006 13:37:49 - Ditto for the Philly CL. Tony Wirtel have been promoted at my work and they sent me to Toronto,Canada,the car is with me. The car has a clean title it is in perfect mechanical and psihycal condition. And it's an american car. I have tryed to register it here but the fees are to expensive and it isn't a very good deal for me. So i have decided to sell it to US, I need a very fast and clean sale because I decided to buy another car here and I need to secure the downpaymnet for the other car, this is why the car's price is so low I want to be sure that I sell it fast. I got almost the exact same email when I found a 1999 SLK on craigslist for $3500. Definitely bogus!
Re: [MBZ] Belching smoke...
Marshall said Every Mercedes diesel I've ever owned (12 or 13 of them) would occasionally belch a black cloud after being driven gently in the city for weeks or months or after idling for a LONG period. --- I first discovered the joys of being able to belch smoke on demand with my first diesel...a Pontiac Bonnevile station wagon (Pontiac 570TD) At first I thought it was a PITA, then I figured out that when some a55h0le tailgated me, that putting it on the floor would give him a cloud of smoke in his face. Ya gotta take yer pleasures in life when you canalas, I find that the volume of smoke I can generate from the 300TD is a lot smaller, but satisfying none the less. Royce Engler 1985 300TD Turbo 285K
Re: [MBZ] Autobahn crash
Doesn't say what injuries the occupants suffered but the passenger compartment certainly looks like this was highly survivable - IMHO. I'm no expert, but it looks like they could have walked away without injuroes - except for being shook-up perhaps.. Also, I believe this is a cabriolet with the optional hardtop in place. It must have been pretty well connected ! But that method of engine removal is pretty drastic - but very fast! ;-) The engine looks like it was removed for a clutch job and fell off the engine cart.. The brake rotor shown looks like one of the new Ceramic rotors Porsche has started offering as a ~$8000 option. Either the rotor exploded - which has happened at times - or was broken in the accident. It's possible the rotor exploded and *caused* the accident. Some owners with that brake system have had them removed by the dealerships - and the normal brakes installed. The History Channel did a Modern Marvels program about the Autobahn and they show a couple of RUF prepared Porsches being tested on the Autobahn - and there's also a short film showing a MB SL rolling over several times before finally stopping next to the Autobahn where the driver staggered out and sat down on the ground a short distance away. The accidenr was caught by one of the many traffic control cameras and shows the SL hitting the ARMCO before violently spinning/rolling along the road. Their point was the cars were very well made so they could take advantage of the high speed Autobahn. Sincerely, Larry T ('74 911, '67 MGB, 91 300D Turbo) A Blood Test for your oil - www.youroil.net For Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil Weber Carb Stuff http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs http://members.rennlist.com/my_911/Index.htm For my Paint Job Info - Original Message - From: Craig McCluskey [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 05, 2006 10:53 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Autobahn crash On Fri, 5 May 2006 21:57:51 EDT [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.marax.at/funpix/porsche_mega_crash.html Mega crash is certainly appropriate. I wonder what caused him to lose control. You can see in the fourth picture that he was driving along a straight road and then swerved to the right. It looks like he was already spinning long before he crossed the merge lane. Craig ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] Bad car names (was: Re: The Wave)
YeahCoolBut still a very strange name. Mike - Original Message - From: Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 05, 2006 9:07 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Bad car names (was: Re: The Wave) A ponton is a style of Mercedes from the mid 50's to very early 60's I do believe, they are called that because they look like pontoon bridges from ww2. OK Don wrote: I think it refers to uni-body construction, though I don't know what it means. The Deutsch-English translator at www.dict.cc translates it to pontoon, which could be an example of uni-body construction, I guess - On 5/5/06, Mike Canfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Or a bit closer to homeWHat the heck does Ponton mean? -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK The Americans will always do the right thing... after they've exhausted all the alternatives. Sir Winston Churchill '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 420SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 190D 2.2, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 73 280SEL 4.5, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] car names
Kia Speculum Really? No way! Mike - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 05, 2006 4:06 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] car names Kia Speculum RLE ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] Autobahn crash
He or She? Looks like mostly women standing around there. Mike - Original Message - From: Craig McCluskey [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 05, 2006 10:53 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Autobahn crash On Fri, 5 May 2006 21:57:51 EDT [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.marax.at/funpix/porsche_mega_crash.html Mega crash is certainly appropriate. I wonder what caused him to lose control. You can see in the fourth picture that he was driving along a straight road and then swerved to the right. It looks like he was already spinning long before he crossed the merge lane. Craig ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] Non-Project 240D in Washington
May 5, 2006 Though there have been enqueries, still no sale. With the warmer weather the car's starting a lot easier. Filled up the car again, 40 gallons over only 835 miles. 21 MPG, not too good even for around town driving. May 6, 2006 Poor mileage? Reluctant starting? Time to do a bit more testing I guess. I took the car for a little test drive to warm it up to operating temperature, then while it was idling I cracked each injector line. Idle dropped significantly with each one, each reaction was approximately equal, so that's good. I then pulled the glow plugs. All came out easily and were equally sooted. Also good. It was time! I dug out the Harbor Freight compression tester I'd picked up and tried it out. It goes together pretty easily, and I had no trouble putting together a set of its various adapters to get it into the glow plug holes. I connected the vacuum shutoff line to the main vacuum supply line in order to keep from injecting fuel during the test. I then did the test, eight compression strokes on each cylinder. All had equal results (modulo some badly-connected attempts where pressure bled away) of about 305-310#, which is to say above 300# on the gauge but not to the next tick at 320#. On the Bar scale I'd call it 21. The engine manual states that normal compression is 22-24 Bar, but that the minimum is 15 with maximum allowed variation of 3. I would call this good considering that the engine has over 300 kmi on it! This car's reluctance to start doesn't appear to be compression based. It is possible that the starter is slow, one or more injectors has a bad spray pattern (possibly only when cold), or the timing chain wear is to blame. All of these, if a problem, are fairly easy and inexpensive to deal with, the difficulty lies in getting a good diagnosis so that I'm not just shotgunning parts at the car. I have a used starter or two lying around, but they're of unknown quality. I wonder if there's a spec. for cranking RPM, and if so how the heck do I measure it? -- Jim
Re: [MBZ] Street racing in Dubai
you wrote:steered it off the road and bought a new one. Along a similar vein - in Saudia Arabia the Brits and US both had contacts to supply and maintain military aircraft - but the Americans had a better spin - the Brits would be seen busily maintaining aircraft of all types in uge hangers - looks normal, huh? Well, the Americans did things a little differently. They'd do minor maintanence only - when the aircraft got to a certain level it would be loaded on a C5 Galaxy and Presto! A new one to replace it would roll out.-- negating any major maintanence - at least where the customer could see it. I assume this is true - a Brit maintanence supervisor told me the story while we flew toward S.A for an assignment - and that's the way he told it -- Sincerely, Larry T ('74 911, '67 MGB, 91 300D Turbo) A Blood Test for your oil - www.youroil.net For Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil Weber Carb Stuff http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs http://members.rennlist.com/my_911/Index.htm For my Paint Job Info - Original Message - From: BillR [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, May 06, 2006 7:16 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Street racing in Dubai Seems like there is metric butt-loads of moola flowing around thereand I bet you and I helped pay for some of those sweet rides with the $3.199 #2 we're buying lately. Bob Rentfro One of my 'favorite' stories from a lady who was working over there had to do with the penchant for not repairing a car. You just steered it off the road and bought a new one. She had seen that done with a Rolls Royce. Yeah, I'd say price is not a big object with many locals. Then there is the report [though this one is not from one who saw it personally] of the girl who was given a 747 for her 16th BD. Probably safer in that than any car she would have wanted [assuming she didn't try to drive it herself]. BillR ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] Street racing in Dubai
...and I was thinking a RR was expensive ... BillR -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, May 06, 2006 1:30 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Street racing in Dubai you wrote:steered it off the road and bought a new one. Along a similar vein - in Saudia Arabia the Brits and US both had contacts to supply and maintain military aircraft - but the Americans had a better spin - the Brits would be seen busily maintaining aircraft of all types in uge hangers - looks normal, huh? Well, the Americans did things a little differently. They'd do minor maintanence only - when the aircraft got to a certain level it would be loaded on a C5 Galaxy and Presto! A new one to replace it would roll out.-- negating any major maintanence - at least where the customer could see it. I assume this is true - a Brit maintanence supervisor told me the story while we flew toward S.A for an assignment - and that's the way he told it -- Sincerely, Larry T ('74 911, '67 MGB, 91 300D Turbo) A Blood Test for your oil - www.youroil.net For Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil Weber Carb Stuff http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs http://members.rennlist.com/my_911/Index.htm For my Paint Job Info - Original Message - From: BillR [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, May 06, 2006 7:16 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Street racing in Dubai Seems like there is metric butt-loads of moola flowing around thereand I bet you and I helped pay for some of those sweet rides with the $3.199 #2 we're buying lately. Bob Rentfro One of my 'favorite' stories from a lady who was working over there had to do with the penchant for not repairing a car. You just steered it off the road and bought a new one. She had seen that done with a Rolls Royce. Yeah, I'd say price is not a big object with many locals. Then there is the report [though this one is not from one who saw it personally] of the girl who was given a 747 for her 16th BD. Probably safer in that than any car she would have wanted [assuming she didn't try to drive it herself]. BillR ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] Street racing in Dubai
Bob Rentfro wrote: I think they are supposed to, but they could just go buy new eyes. Seems like there is metric butt-loads of moola flowing around thereand I bet you and I helped pay for some of those sweet rides with the $3.199 #2 we're buying lately. I'm only contributing at $2.75/gal but am still glad to see that it is being put to good use. I think I read somewhere that Dubai's national budget balances with oil at $20/bbl. Anyone know what the white car with the humongous intercooler is in the second pic from the botton? Lancia? Tom
Re: [MBZ] The Wave - Focus US vs. Euro
BillR wrote: Thanks - I have slept since then and was hoping my memory was not that bad. Sounds like they did so poorly with the first year car here [though it was in use in Europe before then] they decided not to try the second time. I still think it was a nice car to drive as long as you were not personally responsible for repairing the flaws. It also seems reasonable safe, at least anecdotally. I know someone who lost control of one at 60 mph in a rainstorm on US-101 and slide sideways into a tree, which hit the driver's side door. He was a bit bruised up but he walked away without further injuries. David Brodbeck '83 300D Turbo
Re: [MBZ] Bad car names
Mike Canfield wrote: YeahCoolBut still a very strange name. Then there's the Volvo Amazon...
Re: [MBZ] Non-Project 240D in Washington
Do the starters not have a Kilowatt rating stamped right on them? I seem to recall that it was pretty standard to replace the 240 with a 300 starter for extra oomph And of course, check and clean all connections, especially the main ground! Jeff Zedic Toronto 87 300TD
Re: [MBZ] Non-Project 240D in Washington
Rusty's site shows the same part number for the 240D and the 300D (123) - but there is are light duty and heavy duty versions (with the same part number). Looks like the heavy duty version came with the turbo models. On 5/6/06, Jeff Zedic [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Do the starters not have a Kilowatt rating stamped right on them? I seem to recall that it was pretty standard to replace the 240 with a 300 starter for extra oomph And of course, check and clean all connections, especially the main ground! Jeff Zedic Toronto 87 300TD ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK The Americans will always do the right thing... after they've exhausted all the alternatives. Sir Winston Churchill '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager
Re: [MBZ] Heat/AC Fan speed switch
On Sat, 6 May 2006 00:22:02 -0700 Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a three-dial jobbie, too, as the attached photograph shows. It has two sliding levers for the vents and a temperature wheel for controlling the A/C. I've seen that one before in the junkyards. Looks like the two sliding levers' actions are combined in my car, and my mechanical AC thermostat replaced with an electronic one, but otherwise pretty much the same. Still looks like it has the extra 90 degrees of rotation on the fan switch, I'm guessing it's still hooked to a master vent shutoff. (Skunk or dust storm mode.) I believe it's not, having taken things in that area apart before. I'm going to be replacing the chewed-up console in the (hopefully near) future, so I can give a definitive answer then. As an aside note, rotating the temperature wheel to maximum cooling does close a flap to block the outside air. Craig
Re: [MBZ] Autobahn crash
On Sat, 6 May 2006 11:17:11 -0400 Mike Canfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: He or She? Looks like mostly women standing around there. The generic third-person pronoun that covers both sexes and cases where one doesn't know the true gender of the driver. Craig
Re: [MBZ] Porsche autobahn crash
Mega crash is certainly appropriate. I wonder what caused him to lose control. You can see in the fourth picture that he was driving along a straight road and then swerved to the right. It looks like he was already spinning long before he crossed the merge lane. First, it's her, not him. You notice the bandaged female and two others, one sitting on the ground in one photo. The rear seatbacks are up because that area was occupied. The interesting thing is that only the car ends are literally shredded but the cabin is almost unbent, except fot the cowl coming back slightly and popping up the hardtop a little in front. And it took a hell of a force to yank the engine out and jam the left front wheel and strut under the guard rail without the tire. It's a 996 Cabrio which came with two tops. Luckily the car didn't flip. I've seen skidmarks just like this at the track and they always end up the same way. Very high speed followed by inappropriate braking or a lane change. Of course, a deserted section of autobahn is tempting. And just because one has the money to buy a fast car doesn't mean the skill and judgement comes with it. In Seattle we call it the Microsoft syndrome. And, I'm speaking from 25 years experience as an instructor in PCA's Driver Ed program. RLE
Re: [MBZ] Belching smoke...
You've not seen diesel smoke until you've driven a Volvo TD with a bad IP -- smoke isn't the word! Before I got the IP fixed (the last time, it's out of use again...), downshifting the automatic on the highway would result in a black cloud that completely obscured the car behind. They ALWAYS slowed down -- probably couldn't see anything for the smoke! Very rude, probaby stunk too, but hey, I really insist on being able to see the headlights of the car behind me at 70 mph in a 55 zone when I'm trying to turn left in half a mile in heavy traffic It still smokes some with the IP fixed (mostly a stuck cold start injector, meaning I'm probably really looking at an engine rebuild instead of a bad IP this time -- wears out the top of the cylinders from over-advanced IP timing), but nothing like before! Peter
Re: [MBZ] Autobahn crash
The brake rotor shown looks like one of the new Ceramic rotors Porsche has started offering as a ~$8000 option. Either the rotor exploded - which has happened at times - or was broken in the accident. That car was too old to have ceramic brakes. But, I've seen brake discs broken in pieces like a dropped dinner plate. In those cases the car had been airborne after shedding the wheel assembly. Twenty minutes after one of these track incidents, I picked up a piece of shattered disc and burned my fingers. Street driven cars don't need ceramic discs. And, if you nick one when pulling a wheel, the disc (rotor) must be replaced. RLE
Re: [MBZ] Street racing in Dubai
Guys, guys, surely you jest!! Who told you any of this!? Eye gouging! Dumping cars by the side of the road, gifting Jumbo Jets!! It sure makes for a lovely fantasy! Some of the sadest cars are driven there on daily basis, they would be declared illegal to drive here in a heartbeat!! As for the car in the second frame from the bottom, I doubt it is a Lancia. The logo does not conform to the general shape of that of a Lancia! Omar. Message: 12 Date: Sat, 06 May 2006 12:53:39 -0500 From: tom savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Street racing in Dubai Bob Rentfro wrote: I think they are supposed to, but they could just go buy new eyes. Seems like there is metric butt-loads of moola flowing around thereand I bet you and I helped pay for some of those sweet rides with the $3.199 #2 we're buying lately. I'm only contributing at $2.75/gal but am still glad to see that it is being put to good use. I think I read somewhere that Dubai's national budget balances with oil at $20/bbl. Anyone know what the white car with the humongous intercooler is in the second pic from the botton? Lancia? Tom -- Message: 13 Date: Sat, 06 May 2006 11:06:29 -0700 From: David Brodbeck [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] The Wave - Focus US vs. Euro To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed BillR wrote: Thanks - I have slept since then and was hoping my memory was not that bad. Sounds like they did so poorly with the first year car here [though it was in use in Europe before then] they decided not to try the second time. I still think it was a nice car to drive as long as you were not personally responsible for repairing the flaws. It also seems reasonable safe, at least anecdotally. I know someone who lost control of one at 60 mph in a rainstorm on US-101 and slide sideways into a tree, which hit the driver's side door. He was a bit bruised up but he walked away without further injuries. David Brodbeck '83 300D Turbo -- Message: 14 Date: Sat, 06 May 2006 11:07:10 -0700 From: David Brodbeck [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Bad car names To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Mike Canfield wrote: YeahCoolBut still a very strange name. Then there's the Volvo Amazon... -- Message: 15 Date: Sat, 06 May 2006 15:06:02 -0400 From: Jeff Zedic [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Non-Project 240D in Washington To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Do the starters not have a Kilowatt rating stamped right on them? I seem to recall that it was pretty standard to replace the 240 with a 300 starter for extra oomph And of course, check and clean all connections, especially the main ground! Jeff Zedic Toronto 87 300TD -- Message: 16 Date: Sat, 6 May 2006 14:15:52 -0500 From: OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Non-Project 240D in Washington To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Rusty's site shows the same part number for the 240D and the 300D (123) - but there is are light duty and heavy duty versions (with the same part number). Looks like the heavy duty version came with the turbo models. On 5/6/06, Jeff Zedic [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Do the starters not have a Kilowatt rating stamped right on them? I seem to recall that it was pretty standard to replace the 240 with a 300 starter for extra oomph And of course, check and clean all connections, especially the main ground! Jeff Zedic Toronto 87 300TD ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK The Americans will always do the right thing... after they've exhausted all the alternatives. Sir Winston Churchill '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager -- Message: 17 Date: Sat, 6 May 2006 13:19:29 -0600 From: Craig McCluskey [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Heat/AC Fan speed switch To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII On Sat, 6 May 2006 00:22:02 -0700 Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a three-dial jobbie, too, as the attached photograph shows. It has two sliding levers for the vents and a temperature wheel for controlling the A/C. I've seen that one before in the junkyards. Looks like
Re: [MBZ] Porsche autobahn crash
RLE wrote:only the car ends are literally shredded but the cabin is almost unbent, That must have been a huge impact - which speaks volumns about the strength of these cars. I've spent a bit of time browsing junk yards and the MB's I saw nearly always had intact people compartments. Rarely did it look like the passengers would have not survived. Haven't seen many Porsches in junk yards - I guess the specialist junk yards grab the Porsches as soon as they become available. But there was a place north of Richmond Va - McLawhorns - had a little Renault or something on a tall pole out front - they had the best selection of sports cars I'd ever seen. Rows of 911s, more rows of 356s, MGBs. Jags, etc.I was in heaven. Anyway - that Porsche took a lot of damage and yet the passengers appear to have not only survived, but walked away! Sincerely, Larry T ('74 911, '67 MGB, 91 300D Turbo) A Blood Test for your oil - www.youroil.net For Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil Weber Carb Stuff http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs http://members.rennlist.com/my_911/Index.htm For my Paint Job Info - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, May 06, 2006 4:25 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Porsche autobahn crash Mega crash is certainly appropriate. I wonder what caused him to lose control. You can see in the fourth picture that he was driving along a straight road and then swerved to the right. It looks like he was already spinning long before he crossed the merge lane. First, it's her, not him. You notice the bandaged female and two others, one sitting on the ground in one photo. The rear seatbacks are up because that area was occupied. The interesting thing is that only the car ends are literally shredded but the cabin is almost unbent, except fot the cowl coming back slightly and popping up the hardtop a little in front. And it took a hell of a force to yank the engine out and jam the left front wheel and strut under the guard rail without the tire. It's a 996 Cabrio which came with two tops. Luckily the car didn't flip. I've seen skidmarks just like this at the track and they always end up the same way. Very high speed followed by inappropriate braking or a lane change. Of course, a deserted section of autobahn is tempting. And just because one has the money to buy a fast car doesn't mean the skill and judgement comes with it. In Seattle we call it the Microsoft syndrome. And, I'm speaking from 25 years experience as an instructor in PCA's Driver Ed program. RLE ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net