Re: [MBZ] Bad car names (was: Re: The Wave)

2006-05-06 Thread Zeitgeist

I like TuRD much better.  Dodge adds the acronym SLT to some of its
trucks...anyone care to guess what that works out to in my juvenile
little mind?

On 5/5/06, R A Bennell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Toyota Racing Development (I think) - supposed to be like putting AMG on a MB?

Decals make em faster, right?

Randy B


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Re: [MBZ] Bad car names

2006-05-06 Thread John Ervine

Zeitgeist wrote:

I like TuRD much better.  Dodge adds the acronym SLT to some of its
trucks...anyone care to guess what that works out to in my juvenile
little mind?


Salt?

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[MBZ] Bad car names

2006-05-06 Thread Frederick Moir
Hi, All.
  Was following a dark blue Chevrolet Cobalt today and thought Hmmm cobalt, 
one of three magnetic materials, attractive color, and horribly toxic, just 
like a Chevrolet!
  Up yur moose!
  Fred Moir
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  Oh Lord won't you buy me a Mercedes Benz Janis Joplin


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Rick,

You can use this web site to upload it to and Kaleb can download it
from there   http://www.yousendit.com/
It will send Kaleb an email with the link if you put his email addy in
the notification space.

I use it to send files over 10 megs all the time.
It's free but you have to sign up.

Russ W.

Rick Knoble wrote:

Kaleb,
I tried to email this thing a couple times, it is a 47mb file and it is just 
too damn big. Gimme your addy off list and I will send it snail mail Or 
if you are on yhaoo messenger, gimme your id and I might be able to send it 
that way
Rick Knoble
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yea, could you email that to me??

Thanks

Rick Knoble wrote:



OK, another question, you know how you can download those stupid
ringtones?  Well if you use bluetooth, or in my case, the cable, can you
upload your own songs to the phone to use as ringtones?



Yeah, if you have the software. I downloaded the software from a file
sharing site. You want it? I could email it to you or send you a CD ROM.
Rick Knoble
'85 300 CD
'87 190 DT

  


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Re: [MBZ] Got a new phone

2006-05-06 Thread Rick Knoble

Cool I will do that.
Rick Knoble
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Rick,

You can use this web site to upload it to and Kaleb can download it
from there   http://www.yousendit.com/
It will send Kaleb an email with the link if you put his email addy in
the notification space.

I use it to send files over 10 megs all the time.
It's free but you have to sign up.

Russ W.

Rick Knoble wrote:


Kaleb,
I tried to email this thing a couple times, it is a 47mb file and it is 
just
too damn big. Gimme your addy off list and I will send it snail mail 
Or
if you are on yhaoo messenger, gimme your id and I might be able to send 
it

that way
Rick Knoble
'85 300 CD
'87 190 DT




yea, could you email that to me??

Thanks

Rick Knoble wrote:




OK, another question, you know how you can download those stupid
ringtones?  Well if you use bluetooth, or in my case, the cable, can 
you

upload your own songs to the phone to use as ringtones?




Yeah, if you have the software. I downloaded the software from a file
sharing site. You want it? I could email it to you or send you a CD ROM.
Rick Knoble
'85 300 CD
'87 190 DT





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Re: [MBZ] 95 E300D St. Louis $3500

2006-05-06 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin

let me know, its been pulled

tom savage wrote:


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Doesn't $3500 seem awfully cheap?  Might there be something wrong with it??



You mean like it needs an evaporator, wiring harness, and head removal 
because a glowplug is broken off in the head?  Perish the thought!


It is very cheap.  I sent the guy an email; if it is still available 
I'll see if I can check it out tomorrow for curiosity's sake.


Tom

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Re: [MBZ] Boxster engine cover

2006-05-06 Thread RELNGSON
Yes, the Boxster's engine cannot be seen from the top - it's not *very* 
easy
to see from underneath! The top view gets a look at the top of the engine
shroud/cover and little else.  Someone once thought some bright person would
make a clear cover so people could see  a little bit of the engine - a la'
F360.

The covers over the top of the Boxster's engine can be removed in about five 
minutes. It's a requirement in PCA Concours.

RLE


[MBZ] Autobahn crash

2006-05-06 Thread RELNGSON
http://www.marax.at/funpix/porsche_mega_crash.html


[MBZ] Street racing in Dubai

2006-05-06 Thread RELNGSON
http://www.marax.at/funpix/arab_street_racing.htm


Re: [MBZ] Street racing in Dubai

2006-05-06 Thread Rick Knoble
Pretty cool, but aren't the men 'sposed to gouge their eyes out or something 
after they have seen a woman clad like that?

Rick Knoble
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Re: [MBZ] The Wave - Focus US vs. Euro

2006-05-06 Thread David Brodbeck

BillR wrote:

Just after I got my 'first year' Focus [which gave me 50 wonderful trouble
free miles prior to the first breakdown] I chatted with a guy in London that
had one that certainly looked identical to mine, though the wheel was on the
right side, of course. What was different about it - other than it hopefully
had far fewer recalls?
  


I looked it up to be sure.  It seems the story is both cars were the 
same until 2004, when Europe got an all-new Focus, while the U.S. got 
the old platform with a facelift.





Re: [MBZ] Autobahn crash

2006-05-06 Thread Craig McCluskey
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 http://www.marax.at/funpix/porsche_mega_crash.html

Mega crash is certainly appropriate. I wonder what caused him to lose
control. You can see in the fourth picture that he was driving along a
straight road and then swerved to the right. It looks like he was already
spinning long before he crossed the merge lane.


Craig



Re: [MBZ] Street racing in Dubai

2006-05-06 Thread Bob Rentfro
I think they are supposed to, but they could just go buy new eyes. Seems 
like there is metric butt-loads of moola flowing around thereand I bet 
you and I helped pay for some of those sweet rides with the $3.199 #2 we're 
buying lately.


Bob Rentfro


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Pretty cool, but aren't the men 'sposed to gouge their eyes out or 
something

after they have seen a woman clad like that?
Rick Knoble
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Re: [MBZ] Heat/AC Fan speed switch

2006-05-06 Thread Craig McCluskey
On Wed, 3 May 2006 23:10:36 -0700 Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  If that's the case, it's TOTALLY different from my '82 240D. The fan
  switch controls just the fan. There are two sliders just below the
  dash vent that control the air to the defrosters and floor vents.
 
 We're talking about the three-dial jobs.  Like this:
 
   http://cathey.dogear.com/mb240d/console.JPG
 
 Note that the fan dial is in the fan-off but vent-on position
 in this photograph.  That's usually where I leave it.

I have a three-dial jobbie, too, as the attached photograph shows.

It has two sliding levers for the vents and a temperature wheel for
controlling the A/C.


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Re: [MBZ] Heat/AC Fan speed switch

2006-05-06 Thread Jim Cathey

I have a three-dial jobbie, too, as the attached photograph shows.
It has two sliding levers for the vents and a temperature wheel for
controlling the A/C.


I've seen that one before in the junkyards.  Looks like the two
sliding levers' actions are combined in my car, and my mechanical
AC thermostat replaced with an electronic one, but otherwise pretty
much the same.  Still looks like it has the extra 90 degrees of
rotation on the fan switch, I'm guessing it's still hooked to a
master vent shutoff.  (Skunk or dust storm mode.)

-- Jim




Re: [MBZ] Heat/AC Fan speed switch

2006-05-06 Thread Zoltan Finks

Funny: The wife and I have become real users of the outside air shutoff
feature (talking about her Honda CRV). We so dislike cigarette smoke (and it
seems that her CRV has a more pronounced tendency to inhale outside fumes)
that when someone in the car infront of us is smoking, or someone standing
along side the road is, we hit that inside air only button. Also useful
for when next to a big pickup tailpipe or passing this particularly stinky
refining plant between Rochester and the Twin Cities.

Also: I always knew about the Max AC setting in the family car growing up,
but it was not until surprisingly recently that I realized that what it does
is shut off the outside air inlet, and begin to recirculate the inside air
which is, when appropriately used, much cooler than outside air.

Brian

Jim Wrote:
Still looks like it has the extra 90 degrees of
rotation on the fan switch, I'm guessing it's still hooked to a
master vent shutoff.  (Skunk or dust storm mode.)


Re: [MBZ] Bad car names

2006-05-06 Thread Zoltan Finks

No, but I must say that when DSL came out in the world of computers, I had
to LMAO.

Brian


On 5/5/06, John Ervine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Zeitgeist wrote:
 I like TuRD much better.  Dodge adds the acronym SLT to some of its
 trucks...anyone care to guess what that works out to in my juvenile
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Salt?

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Re: [MBZ] The Wave - Focus US vs. Euro

2006-05-06 Thread BillR
Thanks - I have slept since then and was hoping my memory was not that bad.
Sounds like they did so poorly with the first year car here [though it was
in use in Europe before then] they decided not to try the second time.  I
still think it was a nice car to drive as long as you were not personally
responsible for repairing the flaws.
BillR 

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BillR wrote:
 Just after I got my 'first year' Focus [which gave me 50 wonderful 
 trouble free miles prior to the first breakdown] I chatted with a guy 
 in London that had one that certainly looked identical to mine, though 
 the wheel was on the right side, of course. What was different about 
 it - other than it hopefully had far fewer recalls?
   

I looked it up to be sure.  It seems the story is both cars were the same
until 2004, when Europe got an all-new Focus, while the U.S. got the old
platform with a facelift.


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Re: [MBZ] Street racing in Dubai

2006-05-06 Thread BillR
 
 Seems like there is metric butt-loads of moola flowing around
thereand I bet you and I helped pay for some of those sweet rides with
the $3.199 #2 we're buying lately.

Bob Rentfro

One of my 'favorite' stories from a lady who was working over there had to
do with the penchant for not repairing a car.  You just steered it off the
road and bought a new one.  She had seen that done with a Rolls Royce.
Yeah, I'd say price is not a big object with many locals.  Then there is the
report [though this one is not from one who saw it personally] of the girl
who was given a 747 for her 16th BD.  Probably safer in that than any car
she would have wanted [assuming she didn't try to drive it herself].
BillR




[MBZ] Why a W126 is a good thing

2006-05-06 Thread Peter T . Arnold
Last weekend, 1800 miles to go to the Fuel Meet in Bristol, TN. 

3 Guys, Cooler and stuff.

Satellite radio on the Oldies station

75/80 mph, steady as a rock, 25.6 mpg average.

This is a great road car.


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Re: [MBZ] Why a W126 is a good thing

2006-05-06 Thread Christopher McCann
Amen. Say Autobahn-mobile!
 
 :-)
 
 My 300TD wagon is also extremely stable at higher cruising speeds, FYI...but a 
totally different feel comapred to a 126. I really like both, but they are 
apples and oranges...very different.
 
 CM - whose SD is out of commission for 24 hours until the RTV dries on the 
little copper cap where my EGR USED to be...  :-) (YES!)
 

Peter T. Arnold [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Last weekend, 1800 miles to go to 
the Fuel Meet in Bristol, TN. 

3 Guys, Cooler and stuff.

Satellite radio on the Oldies station

75/80 mph, steady as a rock, 25.6 mpg average.

This is a great road car.


--

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Ditto for the Philly CL.

Tony Wirtel





 have been promoted at my work and they sent me to Toronto,Canada,the

 car is with me.

The car has a clean title  it is in perfect mechanical and psihycal

 condition. And it's an american car.

I have tryed to register it here but the fees are to expensive and it


 isn't a very good deal for me.

So i have decided to sell it to US, I need a very fast and clean sale


 because I decided to buy another car here and I need to secure the

 downpaymnet for the other car, this is why the car's price is so low I
 want

 to be sure that I sell it fast.





 I got almost the exact same email when I found a 1999 SLK on craigslist
 for $3500.  Definitely bogus!




Re: [MBZ] Belching smoke...

2006-05-06 Thread Royce Engler
Marshall said

Every Mercedes diesel I've ever owned (12 or 13 of them) would
occasionally belch a black cloud after being driven gently in the city
for weeks or months or after  idling for a LONG period.

---

I first discovered the joys of being able to belch smoke on demand with my
first diesel...a Pontiac Bonnevile station wagon (Pontiac 570TD) At
first I thought it was a PITA, then I figured out that when some a55h0le
tailgated me, that putting it on the floor would give him a cloud of smoke
in his face.  Ya gotta take yer pleasures in life when you canalas, I
find that the volume of smoke I can generate from the 300TD is a lot
smaller, but satisfying none the less.

Royce Engler
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Re: [MBZ] Autobahn crash

2006-05-06 Thread l02turner
Doesn't say what injuries the occupants suffered but the passenger 
compartment certainly looks like this was highly survivable - IMHO.  I'm no 
expert, but it looks like they could have walked away without injuroes - 
except for being shook-up perhaps..  Also, I believe this is a cabriolet 
with the optional hardtop in place.  It must have been pretty well connected 
!  But that method of engine removal is pretty drastic - but very fast! ;-) 
The engine looks like it was removed for a clutch job and fell off the 
engine cart..  The brake rotor shown looks like one of the new Ceramic 
rotors Porsche has started offering as a ~$8000 option.  Either the rotor 
exploded - which has happened at times - or was broken in the accident. 
It's possible the rotor exploded and *caused* the accident.  Some owners 
with that  brake system have had them removed by the dealerships - and the 
normal brakes installed.


The History Channel did a Modern Marvels program about the Autobahn and 
they show a couple of RUF prepared Porsches being tested on the Autobahn - 
and there's also a short film showing a MB SL rolling over several times 
before finally stopping next  to the Autobahn where the driver staggered out 
and sat down on the ground a short distance away.  The accidenr was caught 
by one of the many traffic control cameras and shows the SL hitting the 
ARMCO before violently spinning/rolling along the road.  Their point was the 
cars were very well made so they could take advantage of the high speed 
Autobahn.


Sincerely,
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On Fri, 5 May 2006 21:57:51 EDT [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


http://www.marax.at/funpix/porsche_mega_crash.html


Mega crash is certainly appropriate. I wonder what caused him to lose
control. You can see in the fourth picture that he was driving along a
straight road and then swerved to the right. It looks like he was already
spinning long before he crossed the merge lane.


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Re: [MBZ] Bad car names (was: Re: The Wave)

2006-05-06 Thread Mike Canfield

YeahCoolBut still a very strange name.

Mike
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A ponton is a style of Mercedes from the mid 50's to very early 60's I 
do believe, they are called that because they look like pontoon bridges 
from ww2.


OK Don wrote:


I think it refers to uni-body construction, though I don't know what
it means. The Deutsch-English translator at www.dict.cc translates it
to pontoon, which could be an example of uni-body construction, I
guess -

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Or a bit closer to homeWHat the heck does Ponton mean?





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Re: [MBZ] car names

2006-05-06 Thread Mike Canfield

Kia Speculum


Really?  No way!

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Kia Speculum

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Re: [MBZ] Autobahn crash

2006-05-06 Thread Mike Canfield

He or She?  Looks like mostly women standing around there.

Mike
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On Fri, 5 May 2006 21:57:51 EDT [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


http://www.marax.at/funpix/porsche_mega_crash.html


Mega crash is certainly appropriate. I wonder what caused him to lose
control. You can see in the fourth picture that he was driving along a
straight road and then swerved to the right. It looks like he was already
spinning long before he crossed the merge lane.


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Re: [MBZ] Non-Project 240D in Washington

2006-05-06 Thread Jim Cathey

May 5, 2006

Though there have been enqueries, still no sale.  With the warmer
weather the car's starting a lot easier.  Filled up the car again, 40
gallons over only 835 miles.  21 MPG, not too good even for around
town driving.

May 6, 2006

Poor mileage?  Reluctant starting?  Time to do a bit more testing I
guess.  I took the car for a little test drive to warm it up to
operating temperature, then while it was idling I cracked each
injector line.  Idle dropped significantly with each one, each
reaction was approximately equal, so that's good.  I then pulled the
glow plugs.  All came out easily and were equally sooted.  Also good.
It was time!  I dug out the Harbor Freight compression tester I'd
picked up and tried it out.  It goes together pretty easily, and I had
no trouble putting together a set of its various adapters to get it
into the glow plug holes.  I connected the vacuum shutoff line to the
main vacuum supply line in order to keep from injecting fuel during
the test.  I then did the test, eight compression strokes on each
cylinder.  All had equal results (modulo some badly-connected attempts
where pressure bled away) of about 305-310#, which is to say above
300# on the gauge but not to the next tick at 320#.  On the Bar scale
I'd call it 21.  The engine manual states that normal compression is
22-24 Bar, but that the minimum is 15 with maximum allowed variation
of 3.  I would call this good considering that the engine has over 300
kmi on it!  This car's reluctance to start doesn't appear to be
compression based.  It is possible that the starter is slow, one or
more injectors has a bad spray pattern (possibly only when cold), or
the timing chain wear is to blame.  All of these, if a problem, are
fairly easy and inexpensive to deal with, the difficulty lies in getting
a good diagnosis so that I'm not just shotgunning parts at the car.

I have a used starter or two lying around, but they're of unknown
quality.  I wonder if there's a spec. for cranking RPM, and if so how
the heck do I measure it?

-- Jim




Re: [MBZ] Street racing in Dubai

2006-05-06 Thread l02turner

you wrote:steered it off the

road and bought a new one. 


Along a similar vein - in Saudia Arabia the Brits and US both had contacts 
to supply and maintain military aircraft - but the Americans had a better 
spin - the Brits would be seen busily maintaining aircraft of all types in 
uge hangers - looks normal, huh?  Well, the Americans did things a little 
differently.   They'd do minor maintanence only - when the aircraft got to a 
certain level it would be loaded on a C5 Galaxy and Presto!  A new one to 
replace it would roll out.--  negating any major maintanence - at least 
where the customer could see it.  I assume this is true - a Brit maintanence 
supervisor told me the story while we flew toward S.A for an assignment - 
and that's the way he told it --


Sincerely,
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 Seems like there is metric butt-loads of moola flowing around
thereand I bet you and I helped pay for some of those sweet rides with
the $3.199 #2 we're buying lately.

Bob Rentfro

One of my 'favorite' stories from a lady who was working over there had to
do with the penchant for not repairing a car.  You just steered it off the
road and bought a new one.  She had seen that done with a Rolls Royce.
Yeah, I'd say price is not a big object with many locals.  Then there is 
the

report [though this one is not from one who saw it personally] of the girl
who was given a 747 for her 16th BD.  Probably safer in that than any car
she would have wanted [assuming she didn't try to drive it herself].
BillR


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Re: [MBZ] Street racing in Dubai

2006-05-06 Thread BillR
...and I was thinking a RR was expensive ...
BillR 

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you wrote:steered it off the
 road and bought a new one. 

Along a similar vein - in Saudia Arabia the Brits and US both had contacts
to supply and maintain military aircraft - but the Americans had a better
spin - the Brits would be seen busily maintaining aircraft of all types in
uge hangers - looks normal, huh?  Well, the Americans did things a little 
differently.   They'd do minor maintanence only - when the aircraft got to a

certain level it would be loaded on a C5 Galaxy and Presto!  A new one to
replace it would roll out.--  negating any major maintanence - at least
where the customer could see it.  I assume this is true - a Brit maintanence
supervisor told me the story while we flew toward S.A for an assignment -
and that's the way he told it --

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  Seems like there is metric butt-loads of moola flowing around
 thereand I bet you and I helped pay for some of those sweet rides with
 the $3.199 #2 we're buying lately.

 Bob Rentfro

 One of my 'favorite' stories from a lady who was working over there had to
 do with the penchant for not repairing a car.  You just steered it off the
 road and bought a new one.  She had seen that done with a Rolls Royce.
 Yeah, I'd say price is not a big object with many locals.  Then there is 
 the
 report [though this one is not from one who saw it personally] of the girl
 who was given a 747 for her 16th BD.  Probably safer in that than any car
 she would have wanted [assuming she didn't try to drive it herself].
 BillR


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Re: [MBZ] Street racing in Dubai

2006-05-06 Thread tom savage

Bob Rentfro wrote:
I think they are supposed to, but they could just go buy new eyes. Seems 
like there is metric butt-loads of moola flowing around thereand I bet 
you and I helped pay for some of those sweet rides with the $3.199 #2 we're 
buying lately.


I'm only contributing at $2.75/gal but am still glad to see that it is 
being put to good use.  I think I read somewhere that Dubai's national 
budget balances with oil at $20/bbl.


Anyone know what the white car with the humongous intercooler is in the 
second pic from the botton?  Lancia?


Tom



Re: [MBZ] The Wave - Focus US vs. Euro

2006-05-06 Thread David Brodbeck

BillR wrote:

Thanks - I have slept since then and was hoping my memory was not that bad.
Sounds like they did so poorly with the first year car here [though it was
in use in Europe before then] they decided not to try the second time.  I
still think it was a nice car to drive as long as you were not personally
responsible for repairing the flaws.
  


It also seems reasonable safe, at least anecdotally. I know someone who 
lost control of one at 60 mph in a rainstorm on US-101 and slide 
sideways into a tree, which hit the driver's side door.  He was a bit 
bruised up but he walked away without further injuries.



David Brodbeck
'83 300D Turbo



Re: [MBZ] Bad car names

2006-05-06 Thread David Brodbeck

Mike Canfield wrote:

YeahCoolBut still a very strange name.
  


Then there's the Volvo Amazon...




Re: [MBZ] Non-Project 240D in Washington

2006-05-06 Thread Jeff Zedic
Do the starters not have a Kilowatt rating stamped right on them?  I 
seem to recall that it was pretty standard to replace the 240 with a 300 
starter for extra oomph


And of course, check and clean all connections, especially the main ground!


Jeff Zedic
Toronto
87 300TD




Re: [MBZ] Non-Project 240D in Washington

2006-05-06 Thread OK Don

Rusty's site shows the same part number for the 240D and the 300D
(123) - but there is are light duty and heavy duty versions (with the
same part number). Looks like the heavy duty version came with the
turbo models.

On 5/6/06, Jeff Zedic [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Do the starters not have a Kilowatt rating stamped right on them?  I
seem to recall that it was pretty standard to replace the 240 with a 300
starter for extra oomph

And of course, check and clean all connections, especially the main ground!


Jeff Zedic
Toronto
87 300TD


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Re: [MBZ] Heat/AC Fan speed switch

2006-05-06 Thread Craig McCluskey
On Sat, 6 May 2006 00:22:02 -0700 Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  I have a three-dial jobbie, too, as the attached photograph shows.
  It has two sliding levers for the vents and a temperature wheel for
  controlling the A/C.
 
 I've seen that one before in the junkyards.  Looks like the two
 sliding levers' actions are combined in my car, and my mechanical
 AC thermostat replaced with an electronic one, but otherwise pretty
 much the same.  Still looks like it has the extra 90 degrees of
 rotation on the fan switch, I'm guessing it's still hooked to a
 master vent shutoff.  (Skunk or dust storm mode.)

I believe it's not, having taken things in that area apart before.

I'm going to be replacing the chewed-up console in the (hopefully near)
future, so I can give a definitive answer then.

As an aside note, rotating the temperature wheel to maximum cooling does
close a flap to block the outside air.


Craig



Re: [MBZ] Autobahn crash

2006-05-06 Thread Craig McCluskey
On Sat, 6 May 2006 11:17:11 -0400 Mike Canfield [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 He or She?  Looks like mostly women standing around there.

The generic third-person pronoun that covers both sexes and cases where
one doesn't know the true gender of the driver.


Craig



Re: [MBZ] Porsche autobahn crash

2006-05-06 Thread RELNGSON
Mega crash is certainly appropriate. I wonder what caused him to lose 
control. You can see in the fourth picture that he was driving along a
straight road and then swerved to the right. It looks like he was already 
spinning long before he crossed the merge lane.

First, it's her, not him. You notice the bandaged female and two others, one 
sitting on the ground in one photo. The rear seatbacks are up because that 
area was occupied. The interesting thing is that only the car ends are 
literally 
shredded but the cabin is almost unbent, except fot the cowl coming back 
slightly and popping up the hardtop a little in front. And it took a hell of a 
force to yank the engine out and jam the left front wheel and strut under the 
guard rail without the tire. It's a 996 Cabrio which came with two tops. 
Luckily 
the car didn't flip.

I've seen skidmarks just like this at the track and they always end up the 
same way. Very high speed followed by inappropriate   braking or a lane change. 
Of course, a deserted section of autobahn is tempting. And just because one 
has the money to buy a fast car doesn't mean the skill and judgement comes with 
it. In Seattle we call it the Microsoft syndrome.

And, I'm speaking from 25 years experience as an instructor in PCA's Driver 
Ed program.

RLE


Re: [MBZ] Belching smoke...

2006-05-06 Thread Peter Frederick
You've not seen diesel smoke until you've driven a Volvo TD with a bad 
IP -- smoke isn't the word!  Before I got the IP fixed (the last time, 
it's out of use again...), downshifting the automatic on the highway 
would result in a black cloud that completely obscured the car behind.  
They ALWAYS slowed down -- probably couldn't see anything for the 
smoke!


Very rude, probaby stunk too, but hey, I really insist on being able to 
see the headlights of the car behind me at 70 mph in a 55 zone when I'm 
trying to turn left in half a mile in heavy traffic


It still smokes some with the IP fixed (mostly a stuck cold start 
injector, meaning I'm probably really looking at an engine rebuild 
instead of a bad IP this time -- wears out the top of the cylinders 
from over-advanced IP timing), but nothing like before!


Peter




Re: [MBZ] Autobahn crash

2006-05-06 Thread RELNGSON
The brake rotor shown looks like one of the new Ceramic rotors Porsche has 
started offering as a ~$8000 option.   Either the rotor exploded - which has 
happened at times - or was broken in the accident.

That car was too old to have ceramic brakes. But, I've seen brake discs 
broken in pieces like a dropped dinner plate. In those cases the car had been 
airborne after shedding the wheel assembly. Twenty minutes after one of these 
track 
incidents, I picked up a piece of shattered disc and burned my fingers.

Street driven cars don't need ceramic discs. And, if you nick one when 
pulling a wheel, the disc (rotor) must be replaced.

RLE


Re: [MBZ] Street racing in Dubai

2006-05-06 Thread kayoooh @ gmail
Guys, guys, surely you jest!!

Who told you any of this!? Eye gouging! Dumping cars by the side of the
road, gifting Jumbo Jets!!
It sure makes for a lovely fantasy!

Some of the sadest cars are driven there on daily basis, they would be
declared illegal to drive here in a heartbeat!!

As for the car in the second frame from the bottom, I doubt it is a Lancia.
The logo does not conform to the general shape of that of a Lancia!

Omar.

Message: 12
Date: Sat, 06 May 2006 12:53:39 -0500
From: tom savage [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Street racing in Dubai

Bob Rentfro wrote:
 I think they are supposed to, but they could just go buy new eyes. Seems
 like there is metric butt-loads of moola flowing around thereand I
bet
 you and I helped pay for some of those sweet rides with the $3.199 #2
we're
 buying lately.

I'm only contributing at $2.75/gal but am still glad to see that it is
being put to good use.  I think I read somewhere that Dubai's national
budget balances with oil at $20/bbl.

Anyone know what the white car with the humongous intercooler is in the
second pic from the botton?  Lancia?

Tom



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Date: Sat, 06 May 2006 11:06:29 -0700
From: David Brodbeck [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [MBZ] The Wave - Focus US vs. Euro
To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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BillR wrote:
 Thanks - I have slept since then and was hoping my memory was not that
bad.
 Sounds like they did so poorly with the first year car here [though it was
 in use in Europe before then] they decided not to try the second time.  I
 still think it was a nice car to drive as long as you were not personally
 responsible for repairing the flaws.


It also seems reasonable safe, at least anecdotally. I know someone who
lost control of one at 60 mph in a rainstorm on US-101 and slide
sideways into a tree, which hit the driver's side door.  He was a bit
bruised up but he walked away without further injuries.


David Brodbeck
'83 300D Turbo



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Date: Sat, 06 May 2006 11:07:10 -0700
From: David Brodbeck [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Mike Canfield wrote:
 YeahCoolBut still a very strange name.


Then there's the Volvo Amazon...




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Date: Sat, 06 May 2006 15:06:02 -0400
From: Jeff Zedic [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Non-Project 240D in Washington
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Do the starters not have a Kilowatt rating stamped right on them?  I
seem to recall that it was pretty standard to replace the 240 with a 300
starter for extra oomph

And of course, check and clean all connections, especially the main ground!


Jeff Zedic
Toronto
87 300TD




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Date: Sat, 6 May 2006 14:15:52 -0500
From: OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Non-Project 240D in Washington
To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Rusty's site shows the same part number for the 240D and the 300D
(123) - but there is are light duty and heavy duty versions (with the
same part number). Looks like the heavy duty version came with the
turbo models.

On 5/6/06, Jeff Zedic [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Do the starters not have a Kilowatt rating stamped right on them?  I
 seem to recall that it was pretty standard to replace the 240 with a 300
 starter for extra oomph

 And of course, check and clean all connections, especially the main
ground!


 Jeff Zedic
 Toronto
 87 300TD


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Date: Sat, 6 May 2006 13:19:29 -0600
From: Craig McCluskey [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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On Sat, 6 May 2006 00:22:02 -0700 Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  I have a three-dial jobbie, too, as the attached photograph shows.
  It has two sliding levers for the vents and a temperature wheel for
  controlling the A/C.

 I've seen that one before in the junkyards.  Looks like 

Re: [MBZ] Porsche autobahn crash

2006-05-06 Thread l02turner
RLE wrote:only the car ends are literally shredded but the cabin is almost 
unbent,


That must have been a huge impact - which speaks volumns about the strength 
of these cars.  I've spent a bit of time browsing junk yards and the MB's I 
saw nearly always had intact people compartments.   Rarely did it look like 
the passengers would have not survived.  Haven't seen many Porsches in junk 
yards - I guess the specialist junk yards grab the Porsches as soon as they 
become available.  But there was a place north of Richmond Va - McLawhorns - 
had a little Renault or something on a tall  pole out front - they had the 
best selection of sports cars I'd ever seen.  Rows of 911s, more rows of 
356s, MGBs. Jags, etc.I was in heaven.


Anyway - that Porsche took a lot of damage and yet the passengers appear to 
have not only survived, but walked away!


Sincerely,
Larry T ('74 911, '67 MGB, 91 300D Turbo)
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Sent: Saturday, May 06, 2006 4:25 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Porsche autobahn crash



Mega crash is certainly appropriate. I wonder what caused him to lose
control. You can see in the fourth picture that he was driving along a
straight road and then swerved to the right. It looks like he was already
spinning long before he crossed the merge lane.

First, it's her, not him. You notice the bandaged female and two others, 
one

sitting on the ground in one photo. The rear seatbacks are up because that
area was occupied. The interesting thing is that only the car ends are 
literally

shredded but the cabin is almost unbent, except fot the cowl coming back
slightly and popping up the hardtop a little in front. And it took a hell 
of a
force to yank the engine out and jam the left front wheel and strut under 
the
guard rail without the tire. It's a 996 Cabrio which came with two tops. 
Luckily

the car didn't flip.

I've seen skidmarks just like this at the track and they always end up the
same way. Very high speed followed by inappropriate   braking or a lane 
change.
Of course, a deserted section of autobahn is tempting. And just because 
one
has the money to buy a fast car doesn't mean the skill and judgement comes 
with

it. In Seattle we call it the Microsoft syndrome.

And, I'm speaking from 25 years experience as an instructor in PCA's 
Driver

Ed program.

RLE
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