Re: [MBZ] Will 15 wheels from 1997 C230 fit 1987 300D turbo?

2006-10-01 Thread Zeitgeist
Why is that? On 9/30/06, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: no Casey Olympia, WA Biodiesel: I drive in a persistent vegetative state '87 300TD intercooler #22 (218k) '84 300D (216k) Gashuffer: '89 Vanagon Wolfsburg Edition (187K) http://users.zhonka.net/zeitgeist/Misc/IMG_0171.JPG

Re: [MBZ] Will 15 wheels from 1997 C230 fit 1987 300D turbo?

2006-10-01 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
the offset is wrong Zeitgeist wrote: Why is that? On 9/30/06, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: no Casey Olympia, WA Biodiesel: I drive in a persistent vegetative state '87 300TD intercooler #22 (218k) '84 300D (216k) Gashuffer: '89 Vanagon Wolfsburg Edition (187K)

Re: [MBZ] Fuel Content in Oil

2006-10-01 Thread LarryT
Don asked:did you change the oil when you bought the car, or is still running the oil that the PO put in it Hello Don of OK, ;-) Oh, no, no , no ;-) The 1st thing I do when I buy a car is change the fluids - almost always with Mobil 1 synthetic. We've put 15000 miles on this car since

Re: [MBZ] Supersucker

2006-10-01 Thread LarryT
I've been thinking about a related comment since before this thread - I'm thinking a screw on top with a inlet and outlet - there's one that came with my MityMite Vac kit - internally, one tube goes into the bottom of the container and is below the level of the liquid - this way, the vacuum

Re: [MBZ] The Supersucker

2006-10-01 Thread archer
On Sep 30, 2006, at 8:16 AM, Lee Einer wrote: I made a supersucker using my 6 horsepower shop vac. It supersucked. Not in a nice way. The plastic buckets tended to buckle and collapse, which also caused the lid to bend, warp and split. The contorted bucket tended to splash the waste oil back up

Re: [MBZ] W123 Aluminum rims

2006-10-01 Thread OK Don
Well, my '81 came with steel rims, that I swapped for the bundts that were on the 115 300D after it was totaled. On 9/30/06, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: They are much lighter and easier to carry around. They usually came on all the 240D's after about 1980 or so. Bascially

Re: [MBZ] 0W40 M1 not adequate?

2006-10-01 Thread RELNGSON
PF opines: 0 weight oils are too thin, in my humble opinion, for any diesel.  Too much pressure on the journal on the compression stroke, not enough film strength, even for a synthetic like Mobil 1 snip I believe the 0 weight oils are intended to give small gasoline engines a bit better

Re: [MBZ] 0W40 M1 not adequate?

2006-10-01 Thread Peter Frederick
And a compression ratio of what, 12:1? My point is the much higher compression ratio (hence higher loading) and film strength in the crankpin journal bearing. My engines were designed long before 0 wt oils were available, I'll stick with higher cold viscosity oil, thank you very much.

[MBZ] '92 300D Idiot Lights not Operable

2006-10-01 Thread Bob Morrison
When I start the car the idiot lights no longer come on. The only lights that come on now are the glow plug light and the SRS light. Any ideas where I should start looking? Bob Morrison 87 300D-198000 92 300D-22 growing old fast.

Re: [MBZ] Mobil 1 0W-30

2006-10-01 Thread John W. Reames III
I've heard from the list that Mobil 1 0W-30 is one of the good weights to run in our diesels. Now how about running it in my gasser Saab? I would not run it in ANY MB of any kind. none of the M1 xW-30's (0,5,10) carry ANY MB approvals due to insufficient high-temperature shear strength.

Re: [MBZ] 0W40 M1 not adequate?

2006-10-01 Thread David Brodbeck
Peter Frederick wrote: And a compression ratio of what, 12:1? My point is the much higher compression ratio (hence higher loading) and film strength in the crankpin journal bearing. But that would have more to do with the 40 part than the 0W part, right? I thought the W part of the

Re: [MBZ] The Supersucker

2006-10-01 Thread David Brodbeck
Lee Einer wrote: So, any advice on how to keep the buckets from collapsing? I think you're pulling a harder vacuum than is really necessary. You might create a controllable leak somehow to bleed in some air. A 6 hp shop vac is pretty powerful. It doesn't take nearly as much suction as you'd

Re: [MBZ] 0W40 M1 not adequate?

2006-10-01 Thread LT Don
And while we are at it, how many angels can dance on the head of a pin? http://www.answerbag.com/q_view.php/35011 On 9/30/06, David Brodbeck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Peter Frederick wrote: And a compression ratio of what, 12:1? My point is the much higher compression ratio (hence higher

Re: [MBZ] Mobil 1 0W-30

2006-10-01 Thread LT Don
John: I think the Mobil 1 brand 0-W-40 is on the MB approved list for diesels. Personally, I stick with the 15-W-50 stuff. I would not run it in ANY MB of any kind. none of the M1 xW-30's (0,5,10) carry ANY MB approvals due to insufficient high-temperature shear strength. The 0W-40 DOES

Re: [MBZ] License plate placement

2006-10-01 Thread David Brodbeck
Mitch Haley wrote: David Brodbeck wrote: That'd net him a fine of $1212, assuming you didn't get caught stealing his plates. ;) No license points, though. Since they can't prove who was driving there's no other penalty -- just a $101 fine. I see, just a tax on the owner with no

Re: [MBZ] 0W40 M1 not adequate?

2006-10-01 Thread Craig McCluskey
On Sat, 30 Sep 2006 19:49:23 -0700 David Brodbeck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Peter Frederick wrote: And a compression ratio of what, 12:1? My point is the much higher compression ratio (hence higher loading) and film strength in the crankpin journal bearing. But that would have more to

Re: [MBZ] Supersucker

2006-10-01 Thread Craig McCluskey
On Sat, 30 Sep 2006 19:57:09 -0400 LarryT [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've been thinking about a related comment since before this thread - I'm thinking a screw on top with a inlet and outlet - there's one that came with my MityMite Vac kit - internally, one tube goes into the bottom of the

[MBZ] Archives and question on glow plugs

2006-10-01 Thread Zoltan Finks
Has the method of viewing the archives changed since the change to okiebenz? I have tried to access it and guess I don't know how. Do tell. I ask this because I want information on my glow plugs, and I know that this has been discussed many times before. Barring access to the archives, I'm

Re: [MBZ] License plate placement

2006-10-01 Thread Zoltan Finks
Isn't the critical point that you *enter* the intersection (presumably meaning either your the front-most point of your car, or your front wheels - I'm not sure which - cross the white line on the closer side of the intersection) before it turns red - rather than that you *clear* the intersection

Re: [MBZ] License plate placement

2006-10-01 Thread David Brodbeck
Zoltan Finks wrote: Isn't the critical point that you *enter* the intersection (presumably meaning either your the front-most point of your car, or your front wheels - I'm not sure which - cross the white line on the closer side of the intersection) before it turns red - rather than that you

Re: [MBZ] License plate placement

2006-10-01 Thread Zoltan Finks
Very good points. Sad though, that the average driver is brain-dead enough as to plow into the driver in front of them if they choose to obey a traffic signal. Belive me, I know - I was rear-ended by a Caddiliac as I stopped for a red light on my motorcycle. I think what you're describing

Re: [MBZ] Archives and question on glow plugs

2006-10-01 Thread LarryT
Hello Zoltan, 1st - the series Vs parallel question - OK - series is when the GPs are hooked one after the other, i.e. #1 gets 12V, #2 is supplied by #1 (and has a voltage loss), #3 is supplied by #2 - again with a voltage drop, and so on. The so-called Fast Glow Plugs are wired such that

Re: [MBZ] Mobil 1 0W-30

2006-10-01 Thread Bill Gallagher
http://www.mobiloil.com/USA-English/MotorOil/Oils/Mobil_1_0W-40.aspx See the source for info Bill 1981 300 TD LT Don wrote: John: I think the Mobil 1 brand 0-W-40 is on the MB approved list for diesels. Personally, I stick with the 15-W-50 stuff. I would not run it in ANY MB of any

Re: [MBZ] Mobil 1 0W-30

2006-10-01 Thread Gary Hurst
it's a 40 weight oil when cold that become a zero weight oil when cold? do you see something disturbing about this logic? On 9/30/06, OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I, too, had shared this concern, until I read somewhere that the higher number is the real viscosity, and the lower number is

Re: [MBZ] Supersucker

2006-10-01 Thread Joe Knight
David's right on the money. I got lucky in that my 'shop' vac is a little old cannister with a hose that has a controllable leak built into it's handle. Using the usual plastic bucket I just set the vacuum leakage so the the bucket just barely starts to buckle and keep an eye on it as the hot

Re: [MBZ] Mobil 1 0W-30

2006-10-01 Thread Zoltan Finks
I'm not disturbed by that at all, in fact I love it. How can we be certain though that the oil will behave that way? Bear with me, I never took chemistry. But when the my engine's health is in the balance, this chemical wonder that is an oil switching viscosities based on temperature has long

Re: [MBZ] Supersucker

2006-10-01 Thread Craig McCluskey
On Sat, 30 Sep 2006 22:33:32 -0700 Joe Knight [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You absolutely do not need the godzilla of vacuum cleaners for this little chore. I suppose that rules out King Kong, too. :-) Craig

Re: [MBZ] Archives and question on glow plugs

2006-10-01 Thread Zoltan Finks
Great info. I'm inclined to ask though, which type did my model come with? The series or the better type? I seem to remember that the series type (that depend on eachother to have voltage - which, by the way, seems like poor design) came on the older models, and was phased out in favor of plugs

Re: [MBZ] License plate placement

2006-10-01 Thread David Brodbeck
Zoltan Finks wrote: I think what you're describing though, is people being so conditioned to the common practice of squeaking every last millisecond out of a yellow (and yes, red) light that if someone decides to act reasonably, they are posing a danger with their unpredictability. Pretty

Re: [MBZ] Archives and question on glow plugs

2006-10-01 Thread Fmiser
rumor has it that Zoltan wrote: Great info. I'm inclined to ask though, which type did my model come with? The series or the better type? I believe that the change from series to parallel was about 1980. My '78 had series (till I converteded it), and my '81s have parallel. I'm assuming that

Re: [MBZ] Mobil 1 0W-30

2006-10-01 Thread Fmiser
rumor has it that Zoltan wrote: How can we be certain though that the oil will behave that way? You can't *smile* You have to trust the oil company. Bear with me, I never took chemistry. But when the my engine's health is in the balance, this chemical wonder that is an oil switching

Re: [MBZ] Mobil 1 0W-30

2006-10-01 Thread David Brodbeck
Gary Hurst wrote: it's a 40 weight oil when cold that become a zero weight oil when cold? Not exactly. It doesn't get thinner as it gets colder, as you'd expect from that description. It has the viscosity that a straight 40 weight oil would at operating temperature, and the viscosity that

Re: [MBZ] Mobil 1 0W-30

2006-10-01 Thread David Brodbeck
Fmiser wrote: If you expect to have to start your engine at temps near 0F (-20 C), then the 0W-40 can give let you reliable start the engine at temps 10 deg F (5 deg C) colder than 15W-40. It *may* also decrease start-up wear. Thick oil takes longer to pump to the bearings, and especially up

Re: [MBZ] Supersucker

2006-10-01 Thread David Brodbeck
Joe Knight wrote: Only difficulty I've experienced is figuring out how long is enough. Five minutes is more than enough, probably way more. I always figured it was done when I heard that straw slurping in an empty drink cup sound coming from the crankcase. I also had a clear suction tube and

Re: [MBZ] Mobil 1 0W-30

2006-10-01 Thread Zoltan Finks
Hmmm. Well my faith has been re-restored in 0W oil. If I can do anything to tilt the odds in my favor of having a relatively easy start on those single-digit or below mornings, I'm for it. Brian 83 240D 84 Saab 900 On 10/1/06, David Brodbeck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Fmiser wrote: If you

[MBZ] Cheap 190D Stick

2006-10-01 Thread Rick Knoble
http://milwaukee.craigslist.org/car/214266915.html Rick Knoble '85 300 CD '87 190 DT

Re: [MBZ] Mobil 1 0W-30

2006-10-01 Thread ts
Synthetic or not I would recommend staying with specified or very near oil weights...I use 15/50 Mobil one all year long in 616 and 617 engines in the northeast./Tom Scordato - Original Message - From: Bill Gallagher [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] 0W40 M1 not adequate?

2006-10-01 Thread Peter Frederick
Multi-viscosity oils are rated xWy. The W is weight, an old designation for viscosity. The x is the cold weight, the y is the hot weight -- in other words, the oil has the viscosity of say, 10Wt oil at zero and 40Wt oil at 300 degrees. My concern is shear and film strength on the crankpin

Re: [MBZ] Archives and question on glow plugs

2006-10-01 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
The archives are the same. You access them by going to the list page. There is a link at the bottom of each message. You will then see a link on the list page that says archives. Zoltan Finks wrote: Has the method of viewing the archives changed since the change to okiebenz? I have tried

Re: [MBZ] Mobil 1 0W-30

2006-10-01 Thread Peter Frederick
No, not al all -- it means the viscosity does not change all that much! Synthetics don't lose viscosity when hot nearly as much as dino oils do (10 wt oil at 300F pours like diesel fuel, and has about the same lubricating capacities, I believe!), while 40 or 50 wt dino oil at zero F has to be

Re: [MBZ] Mobil 1 0W-30

2006-10-01 Thread Peter Frederick
The point is that it DOESN'T change viscosity! Peter On Oct 1, 2006, at 12:55 AM, Zoltan Finks wrote: I'm not disturbed by that at all, in fact I love it. How can we be certain though that the oil will behave that way? Bear with me, I never took chemistry. But when the my engine's health is

Re: [MBZ] 0W40 M1 not adequate?

2006-10-01 Thread Mitch Haley
Peter Frederick wrote: Multi-viscosity oils are rated xWy. The W is weight, an old designation for viscosity. I thought the W was Winter, specifying that it was measured at a colder temperature than the regular viscosity rating.

[MBZ] Cheap 1999 E300 - 6 hours left.

2006-10-01 Thread dave walton
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemrd=1,1item=330033469435 6 airbags, traction control, intercooler. Nice ride. No affiliation. Tempted, but must resist... -Dave Walton 87SDL, 94S350, 99E300

Re: [MBZ] Cheap 1999 E300 - 6 hours left.

2006-10-01 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
It will probably stay cheap since the seller has bad feedback. dave walton wrote: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemrd=1,1item=330033469435 6 airbags, traction control, intercooler. Nice ride. No affiliation. Tempted, but must resist... -Dave Walton 87SDL, 94S350,

Re: [MBZ] Cheap 1999 E300 - 6 hours left.

2006-10-01 Thread Zeitgeist
Ah, but you can bid with confidence. It says so, right in the Ad. On 10/1/06, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It will probably stay cheap since the seller has bad feedback. Casey Olympia, WA Biodiesel: I drive in a persistent vegetative state '87 300TD intercooler #22 (218k) '84

Re: [MBZ] 0W40 M1 not adequate?

2006-10-01 Thread John M McIntosh
I'll note http://www.utc.fr/~tthomass/Themes/Unites/unites/infos/huile/ Publication_Oil_Sequences.pdf#search=%22ACEA%20documentation% 20Laboratory%20tests%22 Where one can actually understand what the oils have to meet in order to achieve a certain ACEA rating On 1-Oct-06, at 8:09 AM,

Re: [MBZ] The Supersucker

2006-10-01 Thread Rich Thomas
This sounds like it would cost way more than $2. Maybe $3 or4. --R archer wrote: During the hurricane season last year Home Depot sold old fashioned five gallon steel buckets with a fixed screw capped spout and a center cap. They may still sell them. I doubt they would collapse using a

Re: [MBZ] Cheap 1999 E300 - 6 hours left.

2006-10-01 Thread Sunil Hari
i recall a very wise lister saying There is nothing more expensive than a cheap Mercedes. Think this holds here? On 10/1/06, Zeitgeist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ah, but you can bid with confidence. It says so, right in the Ad. On 10/1/06, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It will

Re: [MBZ] Cheap 1999 E300 - 6 hours left.

2006-10-01 Thread David Brodbeck
Sunil Hari wrote: i recall a very wise lister saying There is nothing more expensive than a cheap Mercedes. Think this holds here? I still contend that that's not quite true. A cheap BMW is more expensive than a cheap Mercedes.

Re: [MBZ] Supersucker

2006-10-01 Thread Rich Thomas
One beer is about right, 4 hours, see a doctor. --R Joe Knight wrote: Only difficulty I've experienced is figuring out how long is enough. Five minutes is more than enough, probably way more.

Re: [MBZ] Cheap 1999 E300 - 6 hours left.

2006-10-01 Thread Mitch Haley
David Brodbeck wrote: I still contend that that's not quite true. A cheap BMW is more expensive than a cheap Mercedes. Agreed. And what about a cheap Porsche? I once avoided buying a cheap Maserati by noticing that it had water in the oil. (1984 or 1985 Biturbo, they had leakage problems at

Re: [MBZ] Cheap 1999 E300 - 6 hours left.

2006-10-01 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
Whoever said that doenst know how to work on their own cars, or what to look for in a cheap Mercedes. I make money on cheap cars, nothing expensive about that. Sunil Hari wrote: i recall a very wise lister saying There is nothing more expensive than a cheap Mercedes. Think this holds here?