[MBZ] 126 gen regulator failures

2008-04-24 Thread mak
I am replacing the generator regulator for the third time in my 300se . Failure leads to a extinguished charging light on the panel at all times and no charging. with the regulator replaced the charging light activates on ignition and goes out on starting the engine , The

Re: [MBZ] OT: Politics: Hoax by deranged Obama delegate, hundreds removed from their homes

2008-04-24 Thread Mitch Haley
Jim Cathey wrote: No child is left alone! That's more like it... And now they are saying that these kids, who were home schooled, dressed like Amish, and never encountered television, may experience problems in being taken from their homes and being stuck in mainstream society with strangers.

Re: [MBZ] 126 gen regulator failures

2008-04-24 Thread Jim Cathey
what to check next, seems as a large spike from something wipes out the regulator. How is the brush length on what you remove? Could it be the slip rings just chewing the brushes much faster than they should? What is the condition of the slip rings? -- Jim

Re: [MBZ] Looking for a W123 TD/E front sway bar.

2008-04-24 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
I have many of them you can have for free is you want to come pull it. Rolf wrote: W123. Email me directly if you have one, [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts

Re: [MBZ] Looking for a W123 TD/E front sway bar.

2008-04-24 Thread Rich Thomas
Yeah, that is the issue with those things. It looks like you have to dismantle half the car to get it in/out, though I recall someone posting a method a few years back that seemed to be a bit easier. --R Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: I have many of them you can have for free is you want to come

Re: [MBZ] 126 gen regulator failures

2008-04-24 Thread dave walton
These people sell used alternators on eBay for $45 with shipping: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-300SDL-Alternator-126-Chassis-6-Month-Warranty_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ33573QQihZ011QQitemZ320068304389QQrdZ1QQsspagenameZWDVW Never tried them. -Dave Walton On Thu, Apr 24, 2008 at 7:06

Re: [MBZ] Looking for a W123 TD/E front sway bar.

2008-04-24 Thread Loren Faeth
Doug in Ames, IA fixed the broken sway bar on his 126 and Dan Weeks' 126. much cheaper and easier. 515 296 2723 to call Doug. His shop is an independent specializing in imported cars. Don't know if this can be done on a 123. In Dan's case, he is only 30 miiles or so away. At 08:43 AM

Re: [MBZ] Looking for a W123 TD/E front sway bar.

2008-04-24 Thread Gary Thompson
The W123 front bar is pretty easy. Can be done in a little over 2 hours. It's the W126 that is a real pain in the butt. W123 Sway Bar RR: (this from ancient memory, so I may have missed a step) - pull battery and battery tray. - remove hoses from monovalve. - pull driver's side kick panel and

Re: [MBZ] Looking for a W123 TD/E front sway bar.

2008-04-24 Thread Rolf
I am just looking to upgrade the stock handling more. I plan on building my own 15mm rear sway bar with multiple holes for adjustment. The OEM 15mm bar probably costs more than I can build one for and won't have the adjustments. I have a 17mm from a W126 560 SE w/SLS but it is too stiff I believe.

[MBZ] 240D compression

2008-04-24 Thread Dwight E. Giles, Jr
Does anyone know or have the compression specs for a 79 240D? My 123 disk has gone bad. Thanks, Dwight Dwight E. Giles, Jr. 1978 240D 4 speed. 218K miles. 1979 240D- auto -250K + miles 1990 300D 2.5t 160K miles. Wickford, RI ___

Re: [MBZ] 240D compression

2008-04-24 Thread pm7088
Waste of time. If it starts in cool/cold weather it's great. If it starts in warm weather, it's at least good. Pete -- Original message -- From: Dwight E. Giles, Jr [EMAIL PROTECTED] Does anyone know or have the compression specs for a 79 240D? My 123 disk

Re: [MBZ] 240D compression

2008-04-24 Thread Dwight E. Giles, Jr
Yes, I know that, but I am thinking of using it as donor-so I wanted more accurate information before I invested in the transplant. It actually will start without heater at about 5F triple glow. Dwight Bissell Cove Quahog Auto Salvage Co Dwight E. Giles, Jr. Wickford RI 02852 -Original

Re: [MBZ] Looking for a W123 TD/E front sway bar.

2008-04-24 Thread Fmiser
It seems than at Thu, 24 Apr 2008 08:43:47 -0500, Rich wrote: Yeah, that is the issue with those things. It looks like you have to dismantle half the car to get it in/out, though I recall someone posting a method a few years back that seemed to be a bit easier. It's not as bad as it looks.

[MBZ] E320 in Wichita

2008-04-24 Thread Donald Snook
http://wichita.craigslist.org/car/653993605.html price is too high, but might be a nice car. No affiliation, etc. Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL

Re: [MBZ] E320 in Wichita

2008-04-24 Thread Allan Streib
From the ad: This is not a scam or fraud. Now why would he feel compelled to say THAT??? Allan -- 1983 300D Donald Snook [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: http://wichita.craigslist.org/car/653993605.html price is too high, but might be a nice car. No affiliation, etc. Donald H. Snook

Re: [MBZ] E320 in Wichita

2008-04-24 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On Thu, Apr 24, 2008 at 11:12 AM, Allan Streib [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From the ad: This is not a scam or fraud. Now why would he feel compelled to say THAT??? Everyone's a crook on the internets. Alex '87 300D Turbo, '86 300E, et al. ___

[MBZ] Odd Car ad:

2008-04-24 Thread Donald Snook
This is an ODD car ad. http://wichita.craigslist.org/car/653873889.html Certainly no affiliation! Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To

Re: [MBZ] Odd Car ad:

2008-04-24 Thread R A Bennell
A bit too odd perhaps, as it has been removed. Care to enlighten those of us who might remain curious? Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Donald Snook Sent: Thursday, April 24, 2008 12:23 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: [MBZ]

[MBZ] Slow List - Early Weekend for some?

2008-04-24 Thread R A Bennell
I know it is only Thursday but there is not much traffic on the list. Here I sit in my office bored and looking for distraction. Miserable day here in the great white north as it is once again white. Snowed during the night and shifted to some freezing rain this morning so not a very nice

Re: [MBZ] Slow List - Early Weekend for some?

2008-04-24 Thread Rich Thomas
I was going to post something about guns, Hillary, Obama, women wearing prairie dresses with all the same hair styles, and whichisbettermacorpc, but instead thought I would rant about diesel fuel price. Filled up Brunnhilde yesterday at $4.05, drove by the station this morning and it was

[MBZ] 1985 300TD Wagon For Sale

2008-04-24 Thread LWB250
Just came back from picking up some camera stuff from a guy on CL. Amazingly, the guy had a 1985 300TD sitting in his driveway We started talking about the car, and I discovered that he's looking to sell it. He just had open heart surgery and his kids convinced him to buy something smaller,

Re: [MBZ] Slow List - Early Weekend for some?

2008-04-24 Thread Robert Rentfro
I too sit but I at home having had a wisdom tooth pulled today. The list is slow, banned is slower. Sunday I filled up the E320, the Acura and the 300D and spent $168 total. It's crazy. No snow here. It's supposed to be 100 by Sunday. Bob R '05 E320 47K '87 Acura Legend 193K '77 300D 192K

Re: [MBZ] Slow List - Early Weekend for some?

2008-04-24 Thread Bill R
Had that been gallons I might ask you to ship me some. $4.09 here early this week. Still not $100 for a fill but close enough. My tank must be growing also. Because I have lived in areas with long Winters I won't mention it is over 80 here today. BillR Jacksonville FL -Original

[MBZ] Slow List - Early Weekend for some?

2008-04-24 Thread Donald Snook
Randy wrote: Time to get the diesel out of the garage. Diesel is slightly more expensive than regular gas right now. $1.224 for regular and $1.259 for diesel. Before you run up here to fill, remember that I am referring to liters rather than gallons. I was in Eureka, Kansas yesterday picking

Re: [MBZ] Odd Car ad:

2008-04-24 Thread Donald Snook
Randy: A bit too odd perhaps, as it has been removed. Care to enlighten those of us who might remain curious? Well, I hope no one is offended (I know this isn't banned). The ad pictured a Chrysler 300 that had been in a serious fire. Then it said that owners girlfriend caught him having anal

Re: [MBZ] WAS 1985 300TD Wagon For Sale NOW HEY ANDREW STRASFOGEL

2008-04-24 Thread R A Bennell
IS THIS NOT EXACTLY WHAT YOU NEED? Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of LWB250 Sent: Thursday, April 24, 2008 1:40 PM To: Banned; Okie Benz Subject: [MBZ] 1985 300TD Wagon For Sale Just came back from picking up some camera stuff from

Re: [MBZ] Odd Car ad:

2008-04-24 Thread R A Bennell
Did you call him? He sounds like the sort that could use a good lawyer from time to time. Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Donald Snook Sent: Thursday, April 24, 2008 2:05 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Odd Car ad:

Re: [MBZ] Odd Car ad:

2008-04-24 Thread Mitch Haley
R A Bennell wrote: Did you call him? He sounds like the sort that could use a good lawyer from time to time. Would that qualify as barratry? Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used

Re: [MBZ] 1985 300TD Wagon For Sale

2008-04-24 Thread E M
While it has pretty low mileage for the age, it still blows me away that ppl are asking and getting $6000 for 23 year old cars, that were best known for being German taxis when new. For that kind of money, I'd want perfect paint, and for the car to have already had a going over by Martha. ;-)

Re: [MBZ] 240D compression

2008-04-24 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
If it will start in those conditions, I would say it is just fine. Dwight E. Giles, Jr wrote: Yes, I know that, but I am thinking of using it as donor-so I wanted more accurate information before I invested in the transplant. It actually will start without heater at about 5F triple glow.

Re: [MBZ] E320 in Wichita

2008-04-24 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
Thats really not too much I dont think. Donald Snook wrote: http://wichita.craigslist.org/car/653993605.html price is too high, but might be a nice car. No affiliation, etc. Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official

Re: [MBZ] Odd Car ad:

2008-04-24 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
its been deleted Donald Snook wrote: This is an ODD car ad. http://wichita.craigslist.org/car/653873889.html Certainly no affiliation! Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/

Re: [MBZ] Odd Car ad:

2008-04-24 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
haha, thats funny Donald Snook wrote: Randy: A bit too odd perhaps, as it has been removed. Care to enlighten those of us who might remain curious? Well, I hope no one is offended (I know this isn't banned). The ad pictured a Chrysler 300 that had been in a serious fire. Then it said

Re: [MBZ] Odd Car ad:

2008-04-24 Thread R A Bennell
Main Entry: bar·ra·try Pronunciation: 'bar--trE Function: noun Inflected Form: plural -tries Etymology: Middle French baraterie deception, from barater to deceive, cheat 1 : an unlawful act or fraudulent breach of duty by a ship's master or crew that injures the interests of the ship's or cargo's

Re: [MBZ] 240D compression

2008-04-24 Thread Dwight E. Giles, Jr
Yes, I wouldn't bother if I were just running it but will test both cars-donor and potential donee just to be certain and out of curiosity. . According to shop forum-factory is 425 psi, minimum is 280, and maximum difference between cylinders is 45 psi. I am pretty sure the 78 4 speed has one low

Re: [MBZ] 1985 300TD Wagon For Sale

2008-04-24 Thread Rolf
155k on a diesel is barely broken in. $6k is not unusual even with todays diesel prices. I would expect the paint to shine like new and everything to work. The 300TD was the flagship of wagons in its heyday. The problem with your W126 is plastic. Chrome gets the big bucks. -Rolf E M wrote:

Re: [MBZ] Slow List - Early Weekend for some?

2008-04-24 Thread Kevin Kraly
Gas was $3.35 and diesel was $4.29. That's about what it is here in Oregon. Is it time to give up the 'SD for a 90's Bonneville/LeSabre? Same room (perhaps a bit more) and the fuel mileage is good. One can be had around here for sub kilobuck range. Kevin in Hillsboro, OR 1983 300SD 267Kmi,

Re: [MBZ] 1985 300TD Wagon For Sale

2008-04-24 Thread Allan Streib
The TDs are hard to come by. If it were a 300D it would get *maybe* 1/3 of that price, in the described condition, unless the buyer has more dollars than sense. Allan -- 1983 300D. E M [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: While it has pretty low mileage for the age, it still blows me away that ppl are

Re: [MBZ] 1985 300TD Wagon For Sale

2008-04-24 Thread LWB250
I haven't been following the market around here myself, but people are telling me that the damned biodiesel craze has jacked the price of ANY diesel vehicle to ridiculous levels. The seller, while chatting with him yesterday, mentioned that he had been watching sales of MB diesels (he is also a

Re: [MBZ] Odd Car ad:

2008-04-24 Thread Mitch Haley
R A Bennell wrote: Main Entry: bar·ra·try Pronunciation: 'bar--trE Function: noun Inflected Form: plural -tries Etymology: Middle French baraterie deception, from barater to deceive, cheat 1 : an unlawful act or fraudulent breach of duty by a ship's master or crew that injures the

[MBZ] Credfit cash back

2008-04-24 Thread Wilton Strickland
I meant probably worth it to use the cash back card and get 5% back, but pay the full bill monthly, of course. Wilton ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To

Re: [MBZ] 1985 300TD Wagon For Sale

2008-04-24 Thread Rolf
You can't trust Ebay prices, they are only good for insurance claims. I forget the production numbers on the TE/TD but they were very very low similar to CE/CD. What something like 4 million W123 produced overall? Under 200k wagons produced IIRC. My wife is on her second wagon (first was NA which

Re: [MBZ] 1985 300TD Wagon For Sale

2008-04-24 Thread E M
155,000 may not be a lot of a diesel, but 24 years old is 24 years old, and the list to put most 24 year old cars in proper working order, is pretty long. Factor in all the rubber in the engine compartment, suspension, so so paint, not to mention things like a 24 year old gas tank, brake lines,

Re: [MBZ] 1985 300TD Wagon For Sale

2008-04-24 Thread LWB250
Other than the grille and bumpers, the rest of the brightwork on a 123 is anodized aluminum. Dan (who has field stripped more 123's than he cares to recall) --- E M [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 155,000 may not be a lot of a diesel, but 24 years old is 24 years old, and the list to put most 24

Re: [MBZ] 1985 300TD Wagon For Sale

2008-04-24 Thread E M
I think stupid prices sums it up. :-) Is gas really expensive enough to justify going to all the hassle, and expense some are going to to convert cars? Again, just running a normal diesel, compared to gas, is paying a premium for a diesel car really worth it? I personally don't think so. If

Re: [MBZ] 1985 300TD Wagon For Sale

2008-04-24 Thread E M
If you can load a bunch of 2x4s, 400lbs of concrete and roll the windows up with ac on and not notice a difference in how it normally handles, it doesn't say much about it's normal handling. lol. ;-) Ed 300E 2008/4/24 Rolf [EMAIL PROTECTED]: You can't trust Ebay prices, they are only good for

Re: [MBZ] Odd Car ad:

2008-04-24 Thread Bill R
That makes me wonder if he had another car he wanted to have burned ... BillR -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kaleb C. Striplin Sent: Thursday, April 24, 2008 4:33 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Odd Car ad: haha, thats

Re: [MBZ] Slow List - Early Weekend for some?

2008-04-24 Thread Redghost
Lucky you!!! BioD is now $5.30, with #2 at $4.40 in Seattle. Makes me long for the days of two bit fuel. clay On 24 Apr 2008, at 12:37, Rich Thomas wrote: I was going to post something about guns, Hillary, Obama, women wearing prairie dresses with all the same hair styles, and

Re: [MBZ] Looking for a W123 TD/E front sway bar.

2008-04-24 Thread Peter Frederick
Get the front sway bar off a TE or TD, it's somewhat stiffer (larger ends) and fits perfectly. Can't help for the rear, though, unless you stumble on a Sportline. Peter On Apr 24, 2008, at 11:33 AM, Rolf wrote: I am just looking to upgrade the stock handling more. I plan on building

Re: [MBZ] 240D compression

2008-04-24 Thread Peter Frederick
Less than 300 psi is the repair limit, should be almost 400 psi new. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go

Re: [MBZ] Slow List - Early Weekend for some?

2008-04-24 Thread Redghost
I suspect it is all becoming quite academic since all the older cars will be priced out of the realm of inexpensive ownership. Fuel prices will continue to increase. Food costs will sky rocket, most of us will be forced to seriously curtail eating and driving, which will result in the

Re: [MBZ] 1985 300TD Wagon For Sale

2008-04-24 Thread Hendrik Fay
Perhaps instead of laughing you might like to remember that the wagons all had SLS, which is a system designed so that at full load the vehicle still handles like it should and not drag it's behind along the ground. Hendrik E M wrote: If you can load a bunch of 2x4s, 400lbs of concrete and

Re: [MBZ] Slow List - Early Weekend for some?

2008-04-24 Thread Hendrik Fay
Yeah right, obviously you have not been paying attention. Even if worst comes to worst using a steam traction engine is way more efficient than a pack of horses. Then there is bio-fuel, which a Farmer can grow. Hydrogen is perhaps another option if there are enough nuclear power stations to

Re: [MBZ] Slow List - Early Weekend for some?

2008-04-24 Thread LWB250
Interesting that you mention this... remember when someone on the list was talking about wood gas? When I visited my former (and now current) business partner a few months ago, he took me out to his barn (really a 40 x 60 steel building) and pointed out this contraption on a trailer. I'll bet

Re: [MBZ] OT, somebody is trying to serve me

2008-04-24 Thread LarryT
Wy wrong. The NRA is the oldest civil rights advocacy organization in the US - est. in 1871. Like some organizations fight for the right of freedom of speech and freedom of the press does not mean someone is fighting to make sure everyone is saying things and having those things

Re: [MBZ] O/T Attn: Wordsmiths.

2008-04-24 Thread LarryT
How about - Ladies Gentlemen, May I present Her Royal Highness, my loyal and devoted servant of these may years. Honey? You wanna come get this trinket? Or, My name is Bond, James Bond, as many of you know. Now that you all know, I will have to kill you. Before I do, Q (the Boss) would like

Re: [MBZ] OT, somebody is trying to serve me

2008-04-24 Thread LarryT
Assault rifles cannot be legally sold - using *my* definition of an assault rifle - which is a fully automatic rifle - unless the buyer has a background check and registers with the BATF much the same as a firearms license holder - and (this is likely the biggest part) a fee must be paid to the

Re: [MBZ] 1985 300TD Wagon For Sale

2008-04-24 Thread E M
SLS was never intended to turn wagons into pickups. You haul a lot of wood and concrete in your wagon? Ed 300E 2008/4/24 Hendrik Fay [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Perhaps instead of laughing you might like to remember that the wagons all had SLS, which is a system designed so that at full load the

Re: [MBZ] Credfit cash back

2008-04-24 Thread OK Don
Sounds like a good plan -- On Thu, Apr 24, 2008 at 4:21 PM, Wilton Strickland [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I meant probably worth it to use the cash back card and get 5% back, but pay the full bill monthly, of course. Wilton -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK There are three kinds of lies: lies,

Re: [MBZ] 1985 300TD Wagon For Sale

2008-04-24 Thread OK Don
I do haul a lot of wood and concrete in our Plymouth van - MB iron V8's as well. I can testify that it does NOT handle the same when loaded (or over loaded)! On Thu, Apr 24, 2008 at 8:34 PM, E M [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: SLS was never intended to turn wagons into pickups. You haul a lot of wood

Re: [MBZ] 126 gen regulator failures

2008-04-24 Thread mak
The slip rings are ok no grooves, cleaned before I installed the new regulator ., The bushes being new as the regulator is a recent replacement operating ok as yet with 100 miles in use. thanks mak - Original Message - From: Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes

Re: [MBZ] Credfit cash back

2008-04-24 Thread Robert Rentfro
If it's a good plan it will be squashed soon. I thought of getting some type of credit card to make my car payments with in order to earn credit towards airline tickets so we can go see my daughter in Tokyo. Is that possible? How long would it take? Bob R -Original Message- From: [EMAIL

Re: [MBZ] Oversteer

2008-04-24 Thread RELNGSON
Perhaps instead of laughing, you might like to remember that the wagons all had SLS which is a system designed so that at full load the vehicle still handles like it should and not drag it's behind along the ground, So, weight distribution means nothing, then? Oh wait, I forgot where you

Re: [MBZ] Slow List - Early Weekend for some?

2008-04-24 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
It is scary, but I completely agree with you. Redghost wrote: I suspect it is all becoming quite academic since all the older cars will be priced out of the realm of inexpensive ownership. Fuel prices will continue to increase. Food costs will sky rocket, most of us will be forced to

[MBZ] Credit cash back

2008-04-24 Thread Wilton Strickland
Yea, I'm thinking, too, if I make it work to my advantage, the credit union will soon QUASH it. Wilton ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or

Re: [MBZ] O/T Attn: Wordsmiths.

2008-04-24 Thread Craig McCluskey
On Thu, 24 Apr 2008 21:03:53 -0400 LarryT [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How about - Ladies Gentlemen, May I present Her Royal Highness, my loyal and devoted servant of these may years. Honey? You wanna come get this trinket? Or, My name is Bond, James Bond, as many of you know. Now that you

[MBZ] anybody interested in a 97 e420?

2008-04-24 Thread Gary Hurst
guy wants 7500. nearly 200k miles. i'm told it's quite nice. if anybody is interested, email me. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change