Re: [MBZ] According to the London Times Bull

[Mark]

- Original Message - 
From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> The war in Iraq has been turned around 180 degrees both militarily and
> politically because the president stuck to his guns. Yet apart from IBD,
> Fox News
> Channel and parts of the foreign press, the media don't seem to consider
> this
> historic event a big story.

>  Should they?, A figment of imagination?Seems Only the enlightened
> intellectual knows it .

For  most of the  world  its  a  needless  war
initiated with deception .
 It's played havoc on the international system
resulting in  economic ruin to many.

Ironically the  threats  still remain afar from this theatre of war which 
has
taken so many innocent lives .
Hope all come home safely.

Mark


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Re: [MBZ] junkers for sale

[Jim Cathey]

> 74" 450SL Euro remains:  Euro engine, probably stuck, but it has all
> the goodies to convert a 107 SL to a 4 speed.

Convert a _450SL_ to stick?  I think the 380+ engines won't
mate to the same trannies as the 450's.

Location?  (Not that I'm interested, myself.)

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] OT More Cathey-inspired repairs

[Jim Cathey]

> Boy, I tell you! Kevin comes up with a first-class Cathey-esque repair 
> and
> then Jim proposes the second-order Cathey repair!

Just trying to stretch the boundaries!

I've spent two months now restoring my boat and trailer.
I now really hate rust, and things that go rust in the night.

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] Old news, petro burning diesel engine

[Fmiser]

It seems than at Tue, 15 Jul 2008 16:07:05 -0500, Rick wrote:

> > Old international tractors used to start on gasoline, and
> > switch over to diesel once warmed up.
> 
> Same with old John Deeres.

My dad's old AMC with a petrol (gasoline) engine used to "diesel"
all the time.

--   Philip

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Re: [MBZ] Porterfield Brake oads

[Fmiser]

It seems than at Tue, 15 Jul 2008 14:10:07 -0400, LarryT wrote:

> Howdy -
>I ran across an ad for some Porterfield brake pads which
> supposedly leaves no brake dust and yet still
> brake very well.  At $110 for a set of pads that will do the
> front  I would certainly hope so ---
> ;-)
> Anybody try pads such as these?   Even if they work as
> advertised $110 is a bit much - but I'd love to
> get rid of brake dust ---

I use PBR Deluxe pads. The claim is no dust. It seems to be true
from my experience. 

> I have tried dust shields but they never fit properly and end
> up squeaking or worse, an edge will catch and rip the
> sheetmetal to pieces --

And they mess with the air flow over the brakes and so the
rotors don't cool properly.

--   Philip

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Re: [MBZ] OT More Cathey-inspired repairs

[Kevin Kraly]

You might also consider something like putting a few
good-sized rocks in the bucket under the basket, would that work
to hold it up?

I thought about that, but I was concerned about the chance one might slip 
over and block suction from the pump.  I'll have to see if I can find some 
stainless bolts or another setup that won't rust.  So far, it's working, and 
pump performance is better than it's been in a long time.

Kevin in Hillsboro, OR
1983 300SD 267Kmi, Ursula 


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Re: [MBZ] poll -- just for my own curiousity .. Gary sees sooomanygay women

[Jack Dahlgren]

On 7/15/08, Gary Hurst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> it was even stupider than that.  small towns and shopping center in georgia
>  were being evactuated due to the possibility of terrorist attack.  I was
>  actually turned away on the road to the outlet mall in dawsonville, georgia
>  by some dude in army fatigues (don't know if has army, national guard or
>  police as he became extremely hostile when i suggested he identify himself
>  and state teh source of his authority).  how can you blame a government for
>  taking advantage of a people so willfully moronic?

Next thing you know they are going to take all our scimitars away.
I'm stocking up on leaf springs, charcoal, anvils and grinding wheels.

As for why the historical highs in national moronicism, I have no
explanation. You have to ask god.

And, Gary, how do we really know you are not a terrorist? I'm gonna
have them check you for peanut dust.

-Jack

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[MBZ] timing chain tool

[Loren Faeth]

Anybody got a timing chain tool they would loan/rent?

I can trade use of a 123 diff tool to change the driveshaft seal, or 
prechamber tools for iron heads, or a sleeve driver for 240/300D ironheads.




Loren Faeth 


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Re: [MBZ] poll -- just for my own curiousity

[Jack Dahlgren]

On 7/15/08, Loren Faeth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>  You might want to inform them of Christian cities
>  and countries that were overrun by scimitar welding moslems and their
>  politically correct version of "convert or die."  Very peaceful,
>  funloving folks, for sure!

I've always said we should ban scimitars, but I can never get any support.
Loren, care to make a donation to AAS or do you not care about our future?

-Jack "Atheists Against Scimitars" Dahlgren

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[MBZ] 108 on 48-state tour

[tom savage]

A father-daughter team from the local MBCA section are currently halfway 
through a tour of the continental US in grandpa's old 250SE.  Follow 
their progress at http://www.48statedrive.blogspot.com/

Articles and video here:
http://www.kfvs12.com/Global/story.asp?S=8582235
http://www.semissourian.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080629/FEATURES08/563156292

Tom

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[MBZ] 500SEL

[Frederick W Moir]

Hi, All.
Passed by a 500SEL and took some pictures.
Basic info: 1985, one owner, Florida car, no rust that I could see. 
$3500. Too much tint to see much inside except for very clean and sun 
has faded some of the wooden dash trim.
I'll send pics to anyone who would like them, and on Teusday next 
I'll be in the area and could kick tyres etc.
Fred Moir
Lynn MA
I don't have enough galley slaves to row this barge.


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Re: [MBZ] Chassis typ and engine typ chart

[tom savage]

Loren Faeth wrote:
> A few days ago I saw a post from someone that had a link to a website 
> with chassis number and engine number info.  I didn't chase the link 
> and now I can't find the post.  Anybody got a good one?  Thanks!

This has more than you'll ever need to know:
http://mb.faq.t4media-agency.de/fileadmin/pdf/100153_Index_3.pdf

Tom
Back online

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[MBZ] Project 220b for sale, junkers for cheapo

[Loren Faeth]

After I scolded Admiral Wacko the insane for not reading the subject 
line, I see it should have been more explicit.  The junkers are next 
to free, and the re is a project car that could be really nice.  I 
have others with spare auto trans for 110/111 body.  Those trans 
would be scrap price if you take em out.  Got some 4 speeds too for 
110/111 and maybe 114/115  rear axles , driveshafts, you name it (110/111)

Other family members are forcing the sale of the farm that has been 
in the family for 175 years.  I need to move these junkers.  I will 
have no storage space.   Kaleb has declined in favor of thinning his 
herd also.  These are make an offer:  they have to go

>84 280SEL Euro, hit RF. 126  Engine and trans supposed to be good. 
>had heated seats

>74" 450SL Euro remains:  Euro engine, probably stuck, but it has all 
>the goodies to convert a 107 SL to a 4 speed.  I thought it would be 
>a good combination to put in a 108 or 111, but it will never happen 
>for me.not much of anything else of value other than scrap to make 
>more chinese trinkets for Americans to buy at Wallyland.  But the 
>body has kept the engine, trans and such out of the weather
>
>250S 108  whole car, less wheels.  Head, carbs, engine acessories, 
>etc saleable.  no interior, not much body saleable, engine stuck.
>a couple of 110 and a 111 that are basically scrap iron.

Also, a hanger queen waiting for restoration
59 220b 111  Auto, good interior, low miles, but the whole front end 
is a mess.  I have a Brand new factory front inner clip for it, as 
well as fender, hood, bumper and other goodies.  Needs a lot of TLC, 
but few parts that I don't have.  Chassis number 000499 engine number 
000999  It has to be one of the first to hit the shores of the 
USA.  Buy the parts and I'll throw in the car for free.

Would consider trading for small items of value

Loren Faeth  


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Re: [MBZ] Update on the no idle 603

[Loren Faeth]

My 400k+ SDL you have always had more power than any other SDL i have 
driven.  Maybe all the others need the ALDA shimmed.  I am sure my 
300D does.  It can hardly outrun a dog.

Kaleb, did you ever do an autopsy?

At 11:07 PM 7/15/2008, you wrote:
>Yea, I was just driving around again today kicking myself in the ass.
>Im not sure what I did to that car but somehow I made it have more power
>AND get better mileage than any other 2.5 I have seen
>
>OK Don wrote:
> > You are a good man, Charlie Brown!  -  oh, I DID pay for the car 
> > It does consistently get 2 more mpg than the '90 does.
> >
> > On Mon, Jul 14, 2008 at 10:00 AM,  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> It was $500.  And, yet again, I find myself kicking myself in the ass for
> >> letting OK don have that car.
> >>
>
>--
>Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK
>   94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 89 560SEL,
>   89 260E, 87 300SDL, 86 560SL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro,
>   84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D,
>   76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250, 66 220SEb
>http://www.okiebenz.com
>
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Re: [MBZ] Chassis typ and engine typ chart

[Craig McCluskey]

On Tue, 15 Jul 2008 23:04:22 -0500 Loren Faeth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

> A few days ago I saw a post from someone that had a link to a website 
> with chassis number and engine number info.  I didn't chase the link 
> and now I can't find the post.  Anybody got a good one?  Thanks!

>From a couple of days ago,

From: "John Freer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Car question, 1995 Mercedes-Benz E-Class E300D
Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2008 23:14:40 -0700
Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

One source is:
http://home.hiwaay.net/~gbf/mbmodels.html

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[MBZ] Chassis typ and engine typ chart

[Loren Faeth]

A few days ago I saw a post from someone that had a link to a website 
with chassis number and engine number info.  I didn't chase the link 
and now I can't find the post.  Anybody got a good one?  Thanks!




Loren Faeth 


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Re: [MBZ] poll -- just for my own curiousity

[Loren Faeth]

Perhaps there are brainwashed zombies on the list that will not 
understand your statement.  Maybe you should spell it out more 
clearly for them.  You might want to inform them of Christian cities 
and countries that were overrun by scimitar welding moslems and their 
politically correct version of "convert or die."  Very peaceful, 
funloving folks, for sure!

the historical ignorance of the American populace is disgraceful

At 10:25 PM 7/15/2008, you wrote:
>TE wrote:
>
> > Like the Crusades?
>
>Perhaps you didn't notice that Islam was spread by the sword about that time
>too? Some would say that the Crusades were a response to the violent 
>spread of
>Islam.
>
>
>Mitch
>
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Re: [MBZ] Update on the no idle 603

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

Yea, I was just driving around again today kicking myself in the ass. 
Im not sure what I did to that car but somehow I made it have more power 
AND get better mileage than any other 2.5 I have seen

OK Don wrote:
> You are a good man, Charlie Brown!  -  oh, I DID pay for the car 
> It does consistently get 2 more mpg than the '90 does.
> 
> On Mon, Jul 14, 2008 at 10:00 AM,  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> It was $500.  And, yet again, I find myself kicking myself in the ass for
>> letting OK don have that car.
>>

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  94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 89 560SEL,
  89 260E, 87 300SDL, 86 560SL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro,
  84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D,
  76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250, 66 220SEb
http://www.okiebenz.com

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Re: [MBZ] Spamming the list with a 1987 300D for sale

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

Naw, while interesting I really already have too many cars, and a rusty 
old VW probably would just get neglected.

Wonko the Sane wrote:
> Kaleb:
> 
> You are just upset that the Quantum is going to Massachusetts for a fair
> purchase price instead of to Claremore for $500.
> 
> As for the Wacko -- guilty as charged. And the day I am not Wacko, someone
> please make the trip to Iowa and put a bullet into me, for I will have
> morphed into something that is not me. I don't want to be anyone other than
> me, because it would be so strange and disorienting. I'd have to strike out
> on a journey looking for myself. And I'd never find myself zipping by at 65
> mph on a motorcycle.
> 
> There is a good reason that I can do what I do for a living, and get up each
> morning looking forward to going to the office and doing it. Normal folks
> don't do that. It takes a Wacko.
> 
> My personal carpenter's level has always been about 5 degrees away (normally
> to the left) from the horizontal for 55 years and I'd not have it any other
> way. It makes me what I am.
> 
> Welcome back, Jack. I hope you sell your car quickly and get a good price
> for it.
> 
> On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 4:59 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> 
>> You mean Lt Don aka Wacko the insane?  Everyone who is smart just
>> ignores him anyway, so you have nothing to fear.  I cant count the
>> nummber of people admiral wacko has run off over the years :)
>>
>>
> 
> 

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  94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 89 560SEL,
  89 260E, 87 300SDL, 86 560SL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro,
  84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D,
  76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250, 66 220SEb
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Re: [MBZ] Be Careful Voting this year!

[Craig McCluskey]

On Tue, 15 Jul 2008 10:52:56 -0500 John Robbins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Tom Hargrave wrote:
> > Actually, the Russians lost - they were forced to pull their missiles
> > out of Cuba and dismantle their launch sites, all under the watchful
> > eye of the US.
> 
> That was my understanding, but I am interested to hear what Craig has to
> say about it!

Before the Cuban missile crisis, we had missiles near eastern Europe.
During the Cuban missile crisis, we had missiles near eastern Europe and
 Russia had missiles near Florida.
After the Cuban missile crisis, we had no missiles near eastern Europe and
 Russia had no missiles near Florida.

How is that not a loss?


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Be Careful Voting this year!

[Mitch Haley]

Wonko the Sane wrote:
> Yep. Women got the right to vote in the 1920s and Kennedy was elected in the
> 1960s. I can see the connection.

Wouldn't have Kennedys without Carrie Nation and her Fascists.
Before Joseph raised his junior mobsters to be politicians they stuck us with 
FDR and the origins of the nanny state.

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Re: [MBZ] poll -- just for my own curiousity

[Mitch Haley]

TE wrote:

> Like the Crusades?

Perhaps you didn't notice that Islam was spread by the sword about that time 
too? Some would say that the Crusades were a response to the violent spread of 
Islam.


Mitch

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Re: [MBZ] Let the oil flow!

[Luther]

Those are legitimate food items.  Drugs/alcohol/cigarettes are not. 

Luther

Quoting Mitch Haley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> Luther wrote:
>> All viable reasons why food stamps and government aid should be highly
>> regulated.  Alcohol and drug/smoking tests.  Any negative tests and
>> you're aid is denied for 1 year.  Tough $#i%. 
>
> Were do you draw the line? If I'm against meat consumption, or refined
sugar,
> should I demand that everybody who eats what I don't like be removed from
the
> welfare roles for a year?
>
> Mitch. 


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Re: [MBZ] According to the London Times

[Gary Hurst]

so the war is over again?  when the troops start coming home?

On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 10:46 PM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> > The Investor's Business Daily editorial board ask, "What would happen if
> > the U.S. won a war but the media didn't tell the American public?
> Apparently,
> > we have to rely on a British newspaper for the news that we've defeated
> the
> > last remnants of al-Qaida in Iraq ."
> >
>  London's Sunday Times called it=2 0"the culmination of one of the most
> spectacular victories of the war on terror." A terrorist force that once
> numbered
> more than 12,000, with strongholds in the west and central regions of Iraq,
> has
> over two years been reduced to a mere 1,200 fighters, backed against the
> wall
> in the northern city of Mosul.
>
>  The destruction of al-Qaida in Iraq (AQI) is one of the most unlikely and
> unforeseen events in the long history of American warfare. We can thank
> President Bush's surge strategy, in which he bucked both Republican and
> Democratic
> leaders inWashington by increasing our forces there instead of
> surrendering.
>
>  We can also thank the leadership of the new general he placed in charge
> there, David Petraeus, who may be the foremost expert in t he world on
> counter-insurgency warfare. And we can thank those serving in our military
> in Iraq who
> engaged local Iraqi tribal leaders and convinced them America was their
> friend
> and AQI their enemy.
>
>  Al-Qaida's loss of the hearts and minds of ordinary Iraqis began
> in Anbar Province , which had been written off as a basket case, and spread
> out from
> there.
>
>  Now, in Operation Lion's Roar the Iraqi army and the U.S. 3rd Armored
> Cavalry Regiment is destroying the fraction of terrorists who are left.
> More than
> 1,000 AQI operatives have already been apprehended.
>
>  Sunday Times reporter Marie Colvin, traveling with Iraqi forces in Mosul,
> found little AQI presence even in bullet-ridden residential areas that were
> once
> insurgency strongholds, and reported that the terrorists have lost control
> of
> its Mosul urban base, with what is left of the organization having fled
> south
> into the countryside.
>
>  Meanwhile, the State Department reports that Iraqi Prime Minister Nouri
> al-Maliki's government has achieved "satisfactory" progress on 15 of the 18
> political benchmarks ï¿Å¨ a big change for the better from a year ago.
>
>  Things are going so well that Maliki has even for the first time floated
> the
> idea of a timetable for withdrawal of American forces. He did so while
> visiting the United Arab Emirates, which over the weekend announced that it
> was
> forgiving almost $7 billion of debt owed by Baghdad ï¿Å¨ an impressive vote
> of
> confidence from a fellow Arab state in the future of a free Iraq.
>
>  But where are the headlines and the front-p age stories about all this
> good
> news? As the Media Research Centerpointed out last week, "the CBS Evening
> News, NBC Nightly News and CNN's Anderson Cooper 360 were silent Tuesday
> night
> about the benchmarks" that signaled political progress.
>
>  The war in Iraq has been turned around 180 degrees both militarily and
> politically because the president stuck to his guns. Yet apart from IBD,
> Fox News
> Channel and parts of the foreign press, the media don't seem to consider
> this
> historic event a big story.
>
>
>
>
>
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[MBZ] According to the London Times

[RELNGSON]

> The Investor's Business Daily editorial board ask, "What would happen if 
> the U.S. won a war but the media didn't tell the American public? Apparently, 
> we have to rely on a British newspaper for the news that we've defeated the 
> last remnants of al-Qaida in Iraq ."
> 
 London's Sunday Times called it=2 0"the culmination of one of the most 
spectacular victories of the war on terror." A terrorist force that once 
numbered 
more than 12,000, with strongholds in the west and central regions of Iraq, has 
over two years been reduced to a mere 1,200 fighters, backed against the wall 
in the northern city of Mosul.

 The destruction of al-Qaida in Iraq (AQI) is one of the most unlikely and 
unforeseen events in the long history of American warfare. We can thank 
President Bush's surge strategy, in which he bucked both Republican and 
Democratic 
leaders inWashington by increasing our forces there instead of surrendering.

 We can also thank the leadership of the new general he placed in charge 
there, David Petraeus, who may be the foremost expert in t he world on 
counter-insurgency warfare. And we can thank those serving in our military 
in Iraq who 
engaged local Iraqi tribal leaders and convinced them America was their friend 
and AQI their enemy.

 Al-Qaida's loss of the hearts and minds of ordinary Iraqis began 
in Anbar Province , which had been written off as a basket case, and spread out 
from 
there.

 Now, in Operation Lion's Roar the Iraqi army and the U.S. 3rd Armored 
Cavalry Regiment is destroying the fraction of terrorists who are left. More 
than 
1,000 AQI operatives have already been apprehended.

 Sunday Times reporter Marie Colvin, traveling with Iraqi forces in Mosul, 
found little AQI presence even in bullet-ridden residential areas that were 
once 
insurgency strongholds, and reported that the terrorists have lost control of 
its Mosul urban base, with what is left of the organization having fled south 
into the countryside.

 Meanwhile, the State Department reports that Iraqi Prime Minister Nouri 
al-Maliki's government has achieved "satisfactory" progress on 15 of the 18 
political benchmarks ï¿Å¨ a big change for the better from a year ago.

 Things are going so well that Maliki has even for the first time floated the 
idea of a timetable for withdrawal of American forces. He did so while 
visiting the United Arab Emirates, which over the weekend announced that it was 
forgiving almost $7 billion of debt owed by Baghdad ï¿Å¨ an impressive vote of 
confidence from a fellow Arab state in the future of a free Iraq.

 But where are the headlines and the front-p age stories about all this good 
news? As the Media Research Centerpointed out last week, "the CBS Evening 
News, NBC Nightly News and CNN's Anderson Cooper 360 were silent Tuesday night 
about the benchmarks" that signaled political progress.

 The war in Iraq has been turned around 180 degrees both militarily and 
politically because the president stuck to his guns. Yet apart from IBD, Fox 
News 
Channel and parts of the foreign press, the media don't seem to consider this 
historic event a big story.
  




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Re: [MBZ] Get Back To Me Asap From: Mrs Farah al-Hashemi

[OK Don]

Yup - Kleb is unique. The typical Okie response is "Farm till it's gone".

On Mon, Jul 14, 2008 at 11:27 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> buy a bunch of land and fill it with junk cars
>
> Loren Faeth wrote:
>> Ja, but it gives us a chance to poke fun at the Honored Herr Listmeister!
>>
>> So, Kleb, what are you going to do with your 12 Mil when you get it?

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Re: [MBZ] Be Careful Voting this year!

[Wonko the Sane]

Yea, that would be me.

On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 10:27 PM, Gary Hurst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> this is already common knowledge.  you never heard this before?
>
> On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 9:48 PM, Wonko the Sane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
>
> > Do you have any vetted documentation for your thesis, or is this an
> > anal-extraction?
> >
> > On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 8:28 PM, Gary Hurst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> >
> > > kennedy never got "elected".  he was put into office by the chicago
> mob,
> > a
> > > creation of prohibition that would never happen if not for women's
> > > political
> > > views mattering.
> > >
> > >
> > On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 8:58 PM, Wonko the Sane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Yep. Women got the right to vote in the 1920s and Kennedy was elected
> > in
> > > > the
> > > > 1960s. I can see the connection.
> > > >
> > > > On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 6:36 PM, Gary Hurst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > you gave women the vote, so you got the kennedys.
> > > > >
> > > > > On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 7:28 PM, Mitch Haley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Mitch Haley wrote:
> > > > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > > > > > >> I believe that we pulled out of Turkey.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > So, we had an established position in Turkey, and they used the
> > new
> > > > > Cuban
> > > > > > bases
> > > > > > > to negotiate us out of Turkey?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Ahh, should have kept reading before I posted that comment. It
> > seems
> > > > that
> > > > > > Kennedy blew the Bay of Pigs, which prompted Cuba to seek
> > protection
> > > > from
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > Soviets. And Kennedy put missiles in Turkey aimed at Moscow and
> > other
> > > > > large
> > > > > > Soviet cities, and Khrushchev responded by putting missiles in
> Cuba
> > > > aimed
> > > > > > at us.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >In 1961, the U.S. deployed 15 Jupiter IRBMs
> > > (intermediate-range
> > > > > >ballistic missiles) at Izmir, Turkey, aimed at the western
> > > > USSR's
> > > > > >cities, including Moscow. Given its 1,500-mile (2,410 km)
> > > range,
> > > > > > Moscow
> > > > > >was only 16 minutes away. Yet, Kennedy gave them low
> > strategic
> > > > > > value,
> > > > > >given that a SSBN submarine provided the same magnitude of
> > > > threat,
> > > > > > and
> > > > > >from a distance.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >Khrushchev publicly expressed anger and personal offense
> > from
> > > > the
> > > > > >Turkish missile emplacement. The Cuban missile deployment
> -
> > > the
> > > > > > first
> > > > > >time Soviet missiles were outside the USSR - was his
> > response
> > > to
> > > > > > U.S.
> > > > > >nuclear missiles in Turkey.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The only lasting part of Kennedy's little pissing match with
> Castro
> > > is
> > > > > the
> > > > > > embargo against Cuba, started with a series of executive orders
> in
> > > 1962
> > > > > and
> > > > > > finally enshrined into law in the last couple of decades. Can
> > anybody
> > > > > > explain to
> > > > > > me why the embargo needed to be expanded during the Clinton and
> > > BushII
> > > > > > administrations, years after Castro lost his Soviet backing?
> > > > > > BTW, that hypocrite JFK is said to have bought 1,200 of his
> > favorite
> > > > > cigars
> > > > > > immediately before signing a royal proclamation banning anybody
> > else
> > > > from
> > > > > > buying
> > > > > > them.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Mitch.
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Re: [MBZ] Be Careful Voting this year!

[Gary Hurst]

this is already common knowledge.  you never heard this before?

On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 9:48 PM, Wonko the Sane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Do you have any vetted documentation for your thesis, or is this an
> anal-extraction?
>
> On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 8:28 PM, Gary Hurst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > kennedy never got "elected".  he was put into office by the chicago mob,
> a
> > creation of prohibition that would never happen if not for women's
> > political
> > views mattering.
> >
> >
> On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 8:58 PM, Wonko the Sane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> >
> > > Yep. Women got the right to vote in the 1920s and Kennedy was elected
> in
> > > the
> > > 1960s. I can see the connection.
> > >
> > > On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 6:36 PM, Gary Hurst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > > you gave women the vote, so you got the kennedys.
> > > >
> > > > On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 7:28 PM, Mitch Haley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Mitch Haley wrote:
> > > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > > > > >> I believe that we pulled out of Turkey.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > So, we had an established position in Turkey, and they used the
> new
> > > > Cuban
> > > > > bases
> > > > > > to negotiate us out of Turkey?
> > > > >
> > > > > Ahh, should have kept reading before I posted that comment. It
> seems
> > > that
> > > > > Kennedy blew the Bay of Pigs, which prompted Cuba to seek
> protection
> > > from
> > > > > the
> > > > > Soviets. And Kennedy put missiles in Turkey aimed at Moscow and
> other
> > > > large
> > > > > Soviet cities, and Khrushchev responded by putting missiles in Cuba
> > > aimed
> > > > > at us.
> > > > >
> > > > >In 1961, the U.S. deployed 15 Jupiter IRBMs
> > (intermediate-range
> > > > >ballistic missiles) at Izmir, Turkey, aimed at the western
> > > USSR's
> > > > >cities, including Moscow. Given its 1,500-mile (2,410 km)
> > range,
> > > > > Moscow
> > > > >was only 16 minutes away. Yet, Kennedy gave them low
> strategic
> > > > > value,
> > > > >given that a SSBN submarine provided the same magnitude of
> > > threat,
> > > > > and
> > > > >from a distance.
> > > > >
> > > > >Khrushchev publicly expressed anger and personal offense
> from
> > > the
> > > > >Turkish missile emplacement. The Cuban missile deployment -
> > the
> > > > > first
> > > > >time Soviet missiles were outside the USSR - was his
> response
> > to
> > > > > U.S.
> > > > >nuclear missiles in Turkey.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > The only lasting part of Kennedy's little pissing match with Castro
> > is
> > > > the
> > > > > embargo against Cuba, started with a series of executive orders in
> > 1962
> > > > and
> > > > > finally enshrined into law in the last couple of decades. Can
> anybody
> > > > > explain to
> > > > > me why the embargo needed to be expanded during the Clinton and
> > BushII
> > > > > administrations, years after Castro lost his Soviet backing?
> > > > > BTW, that hypocrite JFK is said to have bought 1,200 of his
> favorite
> > > > cigars
> > > > > immediately before signing a royal proclamation banning anybody
> else
> > > from
> > > > > buying
> > > > > them.
> > > > >
> > > > > Mitch.
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Re: [MBZ] Update on the no idle 603

[OK Don]

You are a good man, Charlie Brown!  -  oh, I DID pay for the car 
It does consistently get 2 more mpg than the '90 does.

On Mon, Jul 14, 2008 at 10:00 AM,  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> It was $500.  And, yet again, I find myself kicking myself in the ass for
> letting OK don have that car.
>
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Re: [MBZ] Be Careful Voting this year!

[Wonko the Sane]

Do you have any vetted documentation for your thesis, or is this an
anal-extraction?

On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 8:28 PM, Gary Hurst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> kennedy never got "elected".  he was put into office by the chicago mob, a
> creation of prohibition that would never happen if not for women's
> political
> views mattering.
>
>
On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 8:58 PM, Wonko the Sane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > Yep. Women got the right to vote in the 1920s and Kennedy was elected in
> > the
> > 1960s. I can see the connection.
> >
> > On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 6:36 PM, Gary Hurst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> >
> > > you gave women the vote, so you got the kennedys.
> > >
> > > On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 7:28 PM, Mitch Haley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Mitch Haley wrote:
> > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > > > >> I believe that we pulled out of Turkey.
> > > > >
> > > > > So, we had an established position in Turkey, and they used the new
> > > Cuban
> > > > bases
> > > > > to negotiate us out of Turkey?
> > > >
> > > > Ahh, should have kept reading before I posted that comment. It seems
> > that
> > > > Kennedy blew the Bay of Pigs, which prompted Cuba to seek protection
> > from
> > > > the
> > > > Soviets. And Kennedy put missiles in Turkey aimed at Moscow and other
> > > large
> > > > Soviet cities, and Khrushchev responded by putting missiles in Cuba
> > aimed
> > > > at us.
> > > >
> > > >In 1961, the U.S. deployed 15 Jupiter IRBMs
> (intermediate-range
> > > >ballistic missiles) at Izmir, Turkey, aimed at the western
> > USSR's
> > > >cities, including Moscow. Given its 1,500-mile (2,410 km)
> range,
> > > > Moscow
> > > >was only 16 minutes away. Yet, Kennedy gave them low strategic
> > > > value,
> > > >given that a SSBN submarine provided the same magnitude of
> > threat,
> > > > and
> > > >from a distance.
> > > >
> > > >Khrushchev publicly expressed anger and personal offense from
> > the
> > > >Turkish missile emplacement. The Cuban missile deployment -
> the
> > > > first
> > > >time Soviet missiles were outside the USSR - was his response
> to
> > > > U.S.
> > > >nuclear missiles in Turkey.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > The only lasting part of Kennedy's little pissing match with Castro
> is
> > > the
> > > > embargo against Cuba, started with a series of executive orders in
> 1962
> > > and
> > > > finally enshrined into law in the last couple of decades. Can anybody
> > > > explain to
> > > > me why the embargo needed to be expanded during the Clinton and
> BushII
> > > > administrations, years after Castro lost his Soviet backing?
> > > > BTW, that hypocrite JFK is said to have bought 1,200 of his favorite
> > > cigars
> > > > immediately before signing a royal proclamation banning anybody else
> > from
> > > > buying
> > > > them.
> > > >
> > > > Mitch.
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Re: [MBZ] Spamming the list with a 1987 300D for sale

[Wonko the Sane]

Kaleb:

You are just upset that the Quantum is going to Massachusetts for a fair
purchase price instead of to Claremore for $500.

As for the Wacko -- guilty as charged. And the day I am not Wacko, someone
please make the trip to Iowa and put a bullet into me, for I will have
morphed into something that is not me. I don't want to be anyone other than
me, because it would be so strange and disorienting. I'd have to strike out
on a journey looking for myself. And I'd never find myself zipping by at 65
mph on a motorcycle.

There is a good reason that I can do what I do for a living, and get up each
morning looking forward to going to the office and doing it. Normal folks
don't do that. It takes a Wacko.

My personal carpenter's level has always been about 5 degrees away (normally
to the left) from the horizontal for 55 years and I'd not have it any other
way. It makes me what I am.

Welcome back, Jack. I hope you sell your car quickly and get a good price
for it.

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wrote:

> You mean Lt Don aka Wacko the insane?  Everyone who is smart just
> ignores him anyway, so you have nothing to fear.  I cant count the
> nummber of people admiral wacko has run off over the years :)
>
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Re: [MBZ] Be Careful Voting this year!

[Gary Hurst]

kennedy never got "elected".  he was put into office by the chicago mob, a
creation of prohibition that would never happen if not for women's political
views mattering.

On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 8:58 PM, Wonko the Sane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Yep. Women got the right to vote in the 1920s and Kennedy was elected in
> the
> 1960s. I can see the connection.
>
> On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 6:36 PM, Gary Hurst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > you gave women the vote, so you got the kennedys.
> >
> > On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 7:28 PM, Mitch Haley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > > Mitch Haley wrote:
> > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > > >> I believe that we pulled out of Turkey.
> > > >
> > > > So, we had an established position in Turkey, and they used the new
> > Cuban
> > > bases
> > > > to negotiate us out of Turkey?
> > >
> > > Ahh, should have kept reading before I posted that comment. It seems
> that
> > > Kennedy blew the Bay of Pigs, which prompted Cuba to seek protection
> from
> > > the
> > > Soviets. And Kennedy put missiles in Turkey aimed at Moscow and other
> > large
> > > Soviet cities, and Khrushchev responded by putting missiles in Cuba
> aimed
> > > at us.
> > >
> > >In 1961, the U.S. deployed 15 Jupiter IRBMs (intermediate-range
> > >ballistic missiles) at Izmir, Turkey, aimed at the western
> USSR's
> > >cities, including Moscow. Given its 1,500-mile (2,410 km) range,
> > > Moscow
> > >was only 16 minutes away. Yet, Kennedy gave them low strategic
> > > value,
> > >given that a SSBN submarine provided the same magnitude of
> threat,
> > > and
> > >from a distance.
> > >
> > >Khrushchev publicly expressed anger and personal offense from
> the
> > >Turkish missile emplacement. The Cuban missile deployment - the
> > > first
> > >time Soviet missiles were outside the USSR - was his response to
> > > U.S.
> > >nuclear missiles in Turkey.
> > >
> > >
> > > The only lasting part of Kennedy's little pissing match with Castro is
> > the
> > > embargo against Cuba, started with a series of executive orders in 1962
> > and
> > > finally enshrined into law in the last couple of decades. Can anybody
> > > explain to
> > > me why the embargo needed to be expanded during the Clinton and BushII
> > > administrations, years after Castro lost his Soviet backing?
> > > BTW, that hypocrite JFK is said to have bought 1,200 of his favorite
> > cigars
> > > immediately before signing a royal proclamation banning anybody else
> from
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> > > them.
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Re: [MBZ] OT More Cathey-inspired repairs

[Craig McCluskey]

On Tue, 15 Jul 2008 09:18:04 -0700 Jim Cathey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

> You might also consider something like putting a few
> good-sized rocks in the bucket under the basket ...

Boy, I tell you! Kevin comes up with a first-class Cathey-esque repair and
then Jim proposes the second-order Cathey repair!


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Re: [MBZ] Be Careful Voting this year!

[Wonko the Sane]

Yep. Women got the right to vote in the 1920s and Kennedy was elected in the
1960s. I can see the connection.

On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 6:36 PM, Gary Hurst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> you gave women the vote, so you got the kennedys.
>
> On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 7:28 PM, Mitch Haley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > Mitch Haley wrote:
> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > >> I believe that we pulled out of Turkey.
> > >
> > > So, we had an established position in Turkey, and they used the new
> Cuban
> > bases
> > > to negotiate us out of Turkey?
> >
> > Ahh, should have kept reading before I posted that comment. It seems that
> > Kennedy blew the Bay of Pigs, which prompted Cuba to seek protection from
> > the
> > Soviets. And Kennedy put missiles in Turkey aimed at Moscow and other
> large
> > Soviet cities, and Khrushchev responded by putting missiles in Cuba aimed
> > at us.
> >
> >In 1961, the U.S. deployed 15 Jupiter IRBMs (intermediate-range
> >ballistic missiles) at Izmir, Turkey, aimed at the western USSR's
> >cities, including Moscow. Given its 1,500-mile (2,410 km) range,
> > Moscow
> >was only 16 minutes away. Yet, Kennedy gave them low strategic
> > value,
> >given that a SSBN submarine provided the same magnitude of threat,
> > and
> >from a distance.
> >
> >Khrushchev publicly expressed anger and personal offense from the
> >Turkish missile emplacement. The Cuban missile deployment - the
> > first
> >time Soviet missiles were outside the USSR - was his response to
> > U.S.
> >nuclear missiles in Turkey.
> >
> >
> > The only lasting part of Kennedy's little pissing match with Castro is
> the
> > embargo against Cuba, started with a series of executive orders in 1962
> and
> > finally enshrined into law in the last couple of decades. Can anybody
> > explain to
> > me why the embargo needed to be expanded during the Clinton and BushII
> > administrations, years after Castro lost his Soviet backing?
> > BTW, that hypocrite JFK is said to have bought 1,200 of his favorite
> cigars
> > immediately before signing a royal proclamation banning anybody else from
> > buying
> > them.
> >
> > Mitch.
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Re: [MBZ] poll -- just for my own curiousity

[Wonko the Sane]

You are being nice. Did you find Jesus or something since your absence?

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> On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 4:06 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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>
> > yea, Loren is a real big idiot
> >
> >
> >
> That is kind of rude.
>
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Re: [MBZ] poll -- just for my own curiousity

[TE]

>We are dealing with a sect that is determined to kill or convert us 
>by any means.  That includes infiltration, and using our own systems 
>to kill and maim.  

Like the Crusades?

>It is no accident 
>that the numbers of moslem immigrants has skyrocketed in the past 10 
>or 12 year.

Just for the purpose of entertaining your ridiculous statistic, perhaps it's
because Islam is the world's largest religion per capita? In actuality, the
CIA fact book states that as of 2007, Muslims only make up an estimated 0.6%
of the US population.

>Whether Obama is a terrorist or not, it is very clear he will be far 
>more friendly to terrorists than most Americans are.  

I think you meant to say Muslims there, but because you fit the White House
description of a typical good, patriotic American citizen all Muslims are
terrorists.


>Obama's rapid, vacuous rise 
>indicate there are forces beyond the normal behind him.  Who is to 
>say it is not the force of wa ha bi?

Who's to say it's not the force of the American people... you know, those
who actually remember the Constitution, or the Geneva Convention, etc.?


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Subject: Re: [MBZ] poll -- just for my own curiousity

and your point is?


Although 
distasteful,  the notion is that a politician elected US Senator is a 
terrorist, unfortunately is NOT absurd!   

At 06:15 PM 7/15/2008, you wrote:
>And your point is?
>
>Although distasteful, it just points out how absurd the notion is that a
>politician elected US Senator is a terrorist.
>
>People... regardless if you are a Republican or Democrat, you have to see
>the absurdity of this shit the tube pumps into your home. Think for
Christ's
>sake before opening your mouth and regurgitating this garbage.
>
>5 decades ago it would have been a babushka, a woolen hat, vodka and a
>picture of Stalin.
>
>6 decades ago it would have been a kimono, geta sandals and a picture of
>Tojo.




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Re: [MBZ] poll -- just for my own curiousity .. Gary sees sooomanygay women

[Gary Hurst]

it was even stupider than that.  small towns and shopping center in georgia
were being evactuated due to the possibility of terrorist attack.  I was
actually turned away on the road to the outlet mall in dawsonville, georgia
by some dude in army fatigues (don't know if has army, national guard or
police as he became extremely hostile when i suggested he identify himself
and state teh source of his authority).  how can you blame a government for
taking advantage of a people so willfully moronic?

the peanut dust line comes from mcdonalds.  the public schools have seen fit
to convince parents that after terrorism, peanuts are the greatest threat to
their childrens' well being.  to reassure worried parents, mcdonalds put on
their cookie wrappers "cookies may have been exposed to peanut dust."  so
now you can feel secure as you feed your kids this garbage so they can  grow
up all big and strong to further support the insane war mongering
imperialism.

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wrote:

> I just hate it when I get peanut in my chocolate.
>
> Did I ever tell you the story of when an entire semiconductor fab got shut
> down because someone didn't clean up after eating donuts in the break room?
> They were the powdered sugar types.
>
> 9/11 had just happened.
>
> Someone assumed the white powder on the counter was anthrax.
>
> Everyone was evacuated.
>
> That plant made about $1,000,000 an hour when running.
>
> -Jack "two months earlier, the techs would have been after that dust with
> drinking straws" Dahlgren
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 4:39 PM, Gary Hurst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > it's pretty good material for this level.  perhaps you just don't
> > understand
> > it.
> >
> > On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 7:37 PM, Jack Dahlgren <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Yeah, peanut dust is cutting edge.
> >
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Re: [MBZ] poll -- just for my own curiousity

[Jack Dahlgren]

On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 4:31 PM, Mitch Haley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> TE wrote:
> > And your point is?
> >
> > Although distasteful, it just points out how absurd the notion is that a
> > politician elected US Senator is a terrorist.
>
> Why not, we've got a politician who was elected governor and president who
> is an
> international terrorist. Presumably his political career will be over in
> six
> months and five days.
>

He wasn't a terrorist until he got the job. But you are right. We should
make them take off their shoes before they run. Also check to see what they
have hidden in their kimonos.

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Re: [MBZ] poll -- just for my own curiousity

[Mitch Haley]

TE wrote:
> And your point is?
> 
> Although distasteful, it just points out how absurd the notion is that a
> politician elected US Senator is a terrorist.

Why not, we've got a politician who was elected governor and president who is 
an 
international terrorist. Presumably his political career will be over in six 
months and five days.

Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] poll -- just for my own curiousity .. Gary sees sooomanygay women

[Jack Dahlgren]

I just hate it when I get peanut in my chocolate.

Did I ever tell you the story of when an entire semiconductor fab got shut
down because someone didn't clean up after eating donuts in the break room?
They were the powdered sugar types.

9/11 had just happened.

Someone assumed the white powder on the counter was anthrax.

Everyone was evacuated.

That plant made about $1,000,000 an hour when running.

-Jack "two months earlier, the techs would have been after that dust with
drinking straws" Dahlgren




On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 4:39 PM, Gary Hurst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> it's pretty good material for this level.  perhaps you just don't
> understand
> it.
>
> On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 7:37 PM, Jack Dahlgren <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
>
> > Yeah, peanut dust is cutting edge.
>
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Re: [MBZ] poll -- just for my own curiousity

[Redghost]

http://www.abcnews.go.com/Politics/story?id=5380577&page=1

On 15 Jul 2008, at 16:09, Mitch Haley wrote:

> Redghost wrote:
>> The New Yorker is in trouble for a cartoon of Michelle dressed in
>> terrorist garb, barrack in man dress, and Osama on the wall of the
>> Oval Office.
>
> This discussion is worthless without pictures.
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Re: [MBZ] poll -- just for my own curiousity .. Gary sees sooomanygay women

[Gary Hurst]

it's pretty good material for this level.  perhaps you just don't understand
it.

On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 7:37 PM, Jack Dahlgren <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

> Yeah, peanut dust is cutting edge.
>
> -Jack
>
> On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 4:33 PM, Gary Hurst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > i'm on all new material, man.
> >
> > On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 7:29 PM, Jack Dahlgren <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Gary,
> > >
> > > I know. I'm HOPELESSLY in the past.
> > >
> > > -Jack "have you changed ALL the jokes?" Dahlgren
> >
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[MBZ] junkers for sale

[Loren Faeth]

Other family members are forcing the sale of the farm that has been 
in the family for 175 years.  I need to move these junkers.  I will 
have no storage space.   Kaleb has declined in favor of thinning his 
herd also.  These are make an offer:  they have to go

>84 280SEL Euro, hit RF. 126  Engine and trans supposed to be good. 
>had heated seats

>74" 450SL Euro remains:  Euro engine, probably stuck, but it has all 
>the goodies to convert a 107 SL to a 4 speed.  I thought it would be 
>a good combination to put in a 108 or 111, but it will never happen 
>for me.not much of anything else of value other than scrap to make 
>more chinese trinkets for Americans to buy at Wallyland.  But the 
>body has kept the engine, trans and such out of the weather
>
>250S 108  whole car, less wheels.  Head, carbs, engine acessories, 
>etc saleable.  no interior, not much body saleable, engine stuck.
>a couple of 110 and a 111 that are basically scrap iron.

Also, a hanger queen waiting for restoration
59 220b 111  Auto, good interior, low miles, but the whole front end 
is a mess.  I have a Brand new factory front inner clip for it, as 
well as fender, hood, bumper and other goodies.  Needs a lot of TLC, 
but few parts that I don't have.  Chassis number 000499 engine number 
000999  It has to be one of the first to hit the shores of the 
USA.  Buy the parts and I'll throw in the car for free.

Would consider trading for small items of value

Loren Faeth  


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Re: [MBZ] poll -- just for my own curiousity

[Jack Dahlgren]

On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 4:31 PM, Gary Hurst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>
> many americans need look no further than their mirror to answer the
> question
> of what sort of person supports genocide.
>
> oppose all foreign wars!
>
>

Some of them can't look past their own boob job. Maybe that is the problem?

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Re: [MBZ] poll -- just for my own curiousity .. Gary sees sooomanygay women

[Jack Dahlgren]

Yeah, peanut dust is cutting edge.

-Jack

On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 4:33 PM, Gary Hurst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> i'm on all new material, man.
>
> On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 7:29 PM, Jack Dahlgren <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
>
> > Gary,
> >
> > I know. I'm HOPELESSLY in the past.
> >
> > -Jack "have you changed ALL the jokes?" Dahlgren
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Re: [MBZ] Be Careful Voting this year!

[Gary Hurst]

you gave women the vote, so you got the kennedys.

On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 7:28 PM, Mitch Haley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Mitch Haley wrote:
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >> I believe that we pulled out of Turkey.
> >
> > So, we had an established position in Turkey, and they used the new Cuban
> bases
> > to negotiate us out of Turkey?
>
> Ahh, should have kept reading before I posted that comment. It seems that
> Kennedy blew the Bay of Pigs, which prompted Cuba to seek protection from
> the
> Soviets. And Kennedy put missiles in Turkey aimed at Moscow and other large
> Soviet cities, and Khrushchev responded by putting missiles in Cuba aimed
> at us.
>
>In 1961, the U.S. deployed 15 Jupiter IRBMs (intermediate-range
>ballistic missiles) at Izmir, Turkey, aimed at the western USSR's
>cities, including Moscow. Given its 1,500-mile (2,410 km) range,
> Moscow
>was only 16 minutes away. Yet, Kennedy gave them low strategic
> value,
>given that a SSBN submarine provided the same magnitude of threat,
> and
>from a distance.
>
>Khrushchev publicly expressed anger and personal offense from the
>Turkish missile emplacement. The Cuban missile deployment - the
> first
>time Soviet missiles were outside the USSR - was his response to
> U.S.
>nuclear missiles in Turkey.
>
>
> The only lasting part of Kennedy's little pissing match with Castro is the
> embargo against Cuba, started with a series of executive orders in 1962 and
> finally enshrined into law in the last couple of decades. Can anybody
> explain to
> me why the embargo needed to be expanded during the Clinton and BushII
> administrations, years after Castro lost his Soviet backing?
> BTW, that hypocrite JFK is said to have bought 1,200 of his favorite cigars
> immediately before signing a royal proclamation banning anybody else from
> buying
> them.
>
> Mitch.
>
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Re: [MBZ] poll -- just for my own curiousity .. Gary sees sooomanygay women

[Gary Hurst]

i'm on all new material, man.

On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 7:29 PM, Jack Dahlgren <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

> Gary,
>
> I know. I'm HOPELESSLY in the past.
>
> -Jack "have you changed ALL the jokes?" Dahlgren
>
> On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 4:15 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
>
> > Well I didnt think this was banned but what do I know
> >
> > Gary Hurst wrote:
> > > 6 years with todd and no new material.  what else could one expect?
> >
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Re: [MBZ] poll -- just for my own curiousity

[Gary Hurst]

so we murder a million iraqi's and tell everyone to take their shoes
off at the airport?  then we tell the kids at the public school to wonder
about how them nazzies could do all that mean to stuff to little anne frank
and her kin?

many americans need look no further than their mirror to answer the question
of what sort of person supports genocide.

oppose all foreign wars!




On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 6:47 PM, Loren Faeth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

> and your point is?
>
> We are dealing with a sect that is determined to kill or convert us
> by any means.  That includes infiltration, and using our own systems
> to kill and maim.  Remember Sept 11, 2001?  Those were just "peaceful
> fun loving students."  These are people who believe that a lie told
> to an "infidel" is not a lie.  None of us know what is really in
> Osama Obama's mind.  (just quoting ted Kennedy)  It is no accident
> that the numbers of moslem immigrants has skyrocketed in the past 10
> or 12 year.
>
> Whether Obama is a terrorist or not, it is very clear he will be far
> more friendly to terrorists than most Americans are.  Although
> distasteful,  the notion is that a politician elected US Senator is a
> terrorist, unfortunately is NOT absurd!   Obama's rapid, vacuous rise
> indicate there are forces beyond the normal behind him.  Who is to
> say it is not the force of wa ha bi?
>
> At 06:15 PM 7/15/2008, you wrote:
> >And your point is?
> >
> >Although distasteful, it just points out how absurd the notion is that a
> >politician elected US Senator is a terrorist.
> >
> >People... regardless if you are a Republican or Democrat, you have to see
> >the absurdity of this shit the tube pumps into your home. Think for
> Christ's
> >sake before opening your mouth and regurgitating this garbage.
> >
> >5 decades ago it would have been a babushka, a woolen hat, vodka and a
> >picture of Stalin.
> >
> >6 decades ago it would have been a kimono, geta sandals and a picture of
> >Tojo.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >-Original Message-
> >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> ]
> >On Behalf Of Redghost
> >Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2008 4:49 PM
> >To: Mercedes Discussion List
> >Subject: Re: [MBZ] poll -- just for my own curiousity
> >
> >The New Yorker is in trouble for a cartoon of Michelle dressed in
> >terrorist garb, barrack in man dress, and Osama on the wall of the
> >Oval Office.
> >
> >clay
> >
> >On 15 Jul 2008, at 15:44, TE wrote:
> >
> > > Oh how original!
> > >
> > > How long have you been waiting to crank out that gem?
> > >
> > > Oh wait, you did 5 times already but nobody laughed... guess they
> > > didn't
> > > hear you.
> > >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:mercedes-
> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > On Behalf Of Luther
> > > Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2008 11:01 AM
> > > To: Mercedes Discussion List
> > > Subject: Re: [MBZ] poll -- just for my own curiousity
> > >
> > > E, did I mean Obama?
> > >
> > > Luther
> > >
> > > Luther wrote:
> > >> At least they won't help put Osama in office
> > >>
> > >> Luther
> > >>
> > >> Wonko the Sane wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> True. And unfortunately they still vote.
> > >>>
> > >>> On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 10:34 AM, Luther  > >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> >  Anyone who does is ignorant and ill-informed.
> > 
> >  Luther
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > >
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Re: [MBZ] poll -- just for my own curiousity

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

Yea, I am pretty rude

Jack Dahlgren wrote:
> On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 4:06 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> 
>> yea, Loren is a real big idiot
>>
>>
>>
> That is kind of rude.
> 
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Re: [MBZ] poll -- just for my own curiousity .. Gary sees sooomanygay women

[Jack Dahlgren]

Gary,

I know. I'm HOPELESSLY in the past.

-Jack "have you changed ALL the jokes?" Dahlgren

On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 4:15 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

> Well I didnt think this was banned but what do I know
>
> Gary Hurst wrote:
> > 6 years with todd and no new material.  what else could one expect?
>
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Re: [MBZ] Be Careful Voting this year!

[Mitch Haley]

Mitch Haley wrote:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>> I believe that we pulled out of Turkey.
> 
> So, we had an established position in Turkey, and they used the new Cuban 
> bases 
> to negotiate us out of Turkey?

Ahh, should have kept reading before I posted that comment. It seems that 
Kennedy blew the Bay of Pigs, which prompted Cuba to seek protection from the 
Soviets. And Kennedy put missiles in Turkey aimed at Moscow and other large 
Soviet cities, and Khrushchev responded by putting missiles in Cuba aimed at us.

In 1961, the U.S. deployed 15 Jupiter IRBMs (intermediate-range
ballistic missiles) at Izmir, Turkey, aimed at the western USSR's
cities, including Moscow. Given its 1,500-mile (2,410 km) range, Moscow
was only 16 minutes away. Yet, Kennedy gave them low strategic value,
given that a SSBN submarine provided the same magnitude of threat, and
from a distance.

Khrushchev publicly expressed anger and personal offense from the
Turkish missile emplacement. The Cuban missile deployment - the first
time Soviet missiles were outside the USSR - was his response to U.S.
nuclear missiles in Turkey.


The only lasting part of Kennedy's little pissing match with Castro is the 
embargo against Cuba, started with a series of executive orders in 1962 and 
finally enshrined into law in the last couple of decades. Can anybody explain 
to 
me why the embargo needed to be expanded during the Clinton and BushII 
administrations, years after Castro lost his Soviet backing?
BTW, that hypocrite JFK is said to have bought 1,200 of his favorite cigars 
immediately before signing a royal proclamation banning anybody else from 
buying 
them.

Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] poll -- just for my own curiousity

[Jack Dahlgren]

On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 4:06 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

> yea, Loren is a real big idiot
>
>
>
That is kind of rude.

-Jack
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Re: [MBZ] poll -- just for my own curiousity

[Mitch Haley]

Redghost wrote:
> The New Yorker is in trouble for a cartoon of Michelle dressed in  
> terrorist garb, barrack in man dress, and Osama on the wall of the  
> Oval Office.

This discussion is worthless without pictures.

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Re: [MBZ] 300td 1982 deerslayer radiator

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

I guess you never got a computer and your house, you just check email 
from your blackberry.  FOOL

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> FOOLS.
> 
> Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless handheld
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: "Kaleb C. Striplin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> 
> Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2008 17:45:39 
> To: Mercedes Discussion List
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] 300td 1982 deerslayer radiator
> 
> 
> Well, OK, I will just come right out and say it.  This guy emails me a 
> few days ago with an extensive list of parts.  I take the time to see 
> what I have available and give him quotes.  Did not have a radiator, 
> sent him your way.  Next thing I know he is posting on my list here 
> looking for the parts.  WTF?  I have him a quote.  Does he think he is 
> going to get it cheaper?  Its the sale of those parts that funds this 
> list.  I have people do that every once in a while.  When they do screw 
> around, they run the risk of somebody else coming along and buying the 
> parts that he needs, then I dont have anything for him.  Oh well, about 
> the like the guy who didnt want the E420 because it had brake dust on 
> the wheels.
> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>> Please. Chinese? Did you not see my quote earlier? Someone back me up on 
>> this. Do we have no shame? 
>>
>>
>> --Original Message--
>> From: Rick Hawkins Java
>> Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
>> ReplyTo: Mercedes Discussion List
>> Sent: Jul 15, 2008 10:27 PM
>> Subject: [MBZ] 300td 1982 deerslayer radiator
>>
>> Folks
>>
>> no one has offered me a decent deal on a good used radiator for my  
>> 300td Deerslayer. With a bit of searching i've found Silla Radiators  
>> which are made  guess where? . CHINA just like our cars!!
>>
>> They are VERY inexpensive. Less than half the price of a Behr. Has  
>> anyone seen or used or heard about one? Email me directly if you have  
>> any info.
>>
>> Meanwhile, I've patched mine up using WATERWELD putty , from walmart  
>> jb weld and it seems to be holding fine
>>
>>
>> we'll see.
>>
>>
>>
>> thanks,
>>
>> xx rick
>> Rick Hawkins
>>
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Re: [MBZ] poll -- just for my own curiousity .. Gary sees sooomanygay women

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

Well I didnt think this was banned but what do I know

Gary Hurst wrote:
> 6 years with todd and no new material.  what else could one expect?
> 
> On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 7:11 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> 
>> Oh geez, thats a low blow, I t hought only dickarde had that
>>
>> Jack Dahlgren wrote:
>>> I have $17,000 of wisdom.
>>>
>>> -Jack
>>>
>>> On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 3:57 PM, Gary Hurst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> wrote:
 what the hell do you know, newbie?


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>>  84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D,
>>  76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250, 66 220SEb
>> http://www.okiebenz.com
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Re: [MBZ] 300td 1982 deerslayer radiator

[rusty]

Shoot, I think he should buy everything from me and Kaleb.


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From: "Tom Hargrave" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2008 17:46:44 
To: 'Mercedes Discussion List'
Subject: Re: [MBZ] 300td 1982 deerslayer radiator


For starters, our cars are not made in China, they are made in Germany. But
many parts are made in China.

Second, I would not trust the life of my engine on a epoxy patch. But I
guess I've been around longer than you and have seen too many examples of
people destroying engines & transmissions while "saving money".

Third, as Kaleb stated, BEHR makes a good radiator.

Fourth, while you are at it, you need to replace both radiator hoses along
with the radiator & use good hoses - no local "discount store" crap. You
need hoses from Napa or from Rusty.

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On Behalf Of Rick Hawkins Java
Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2008 5:27 PM
To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: [MBZ] 300td 1982 deerslayer radiator

Folks

no one has offered me a decent deal on a good used radiator for my  
300td Deerslayer. With a bit of searching i've found Silla Radiators  
which are made  guess where? . CHINA just like our cars!!

They are VERY inexpensive. Less than half the price of a Behr. Has  
anyone seen or used or heard about one? Email me directly if you have  
any info.

Meanwhile, I've patched mine up using WATERWELD putty , from walmart  
jb weld and it seems to be holding fine


we'll see.



thanks,

xx rick
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Re: [MBZ] Be Careful Voting this year!

[Gary Hurst]

the cold war was just another hoax of the warmongers anyway

On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 7:02 PM, Mitch Haley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > I believe that we pulled out of Turkey.
>
> So, we had an established position in Turkey, and they used the new Cuban
> bases
> to negotiate us out of Turkey?
>
> Excerpt from Wiki:
>
>The climax period of the crisis began on October 15, 1962, when
> United
>States reconnaissance photographs taken by an American U-2 spy plane
>revealed missile bases being built in Cuba, and ended two weeks
> later on
>October 28, 1962, when President of the United States John F.
> Kennedy
>and United Nations Secretary-General U Thant reached an agreement
> with
>the Soviets to dismantle the missiles in Cuba in exchange for a no
>invasion agreement and a secret removal of the Jupiter and Thor
> missiles
>in Turkey.
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cuban_Missile_Crisis
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Re: [MBZ] 300td 1982 deerslayer radiator

[rusty]

FOOLS.

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-Original Message-
From: "Kaleb C. Striplin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2008 17:45:39 
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] 300td 1982 deerslayer radiator


Well, OK, I will just come right out and say it.  This guy emails me a 
few days ago with an extensive list of parts.  I take the time to see 
what I have available and give him quotes.  Did not have a radiator, 
sent him your way.  Next thing I know he is posting on my list here 
looking for the parts.  WTF?  I have him a quote.  Does he think he is 
going to get it cheaper?  Its the sale of those parts that funds this 
list.  I have people do that every once in a while.  When they do screw 
around, they run the risk of somebody else coming along and buying the 
parts that he needs, then I dont have anything for him.  Oh well, about 
the like the guy who didnt want the E420 because it had brake dust on 
the wheels.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Please. Chinese? Did you not see my quote earlier? Someone back me up on 
> this. Do we have no shame? 
> 
> 
> --Original Message--
> From: Rick Hawkins Java
> Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
> ReplyTo: Mercedes Discussion List
> Sent: Jul 15, 2008 10:27 PM
> Subject: [MBZ] 300td 1982 deerslayer radiator
> 
> Folks
> 
> no one has offered me a decent deal on a good used radiator for my  
> 300td Deerslayer. With a bit of searching i've found Silla Radiators  
> which are made  guess where? . CHINA just like our cars!!
> 
> They are VERY inexpensive. Less than half the price of a Behr. Has  
> anyone seen or used or heard about one? Email me directly if you have  
> any info.
> 
> Meanwhile, I've patched mine up using WATERWELD putty , from walmart  
> jb weld and it seems to be holding fine
> 
> 
> we'll see.
> 
> 
> 
> thanks,
> 
> xx rick
> Rick Hawkins
> 
> www.javaphoto.com
> www.javacycles.com
> 
> payment by all major credit cards or by paypal
> 
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> Java Bajaj Cycles
> 215 Bryan Street
> Athens, Georgia 30601
> 
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> 706 354-8877 fax
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Re: [MBZ] poll -- just for my own curiousity .. Gary sees sooomanygay women

[Gary Hurst]

6 years with todd and no new material.  what else could one expect?

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> Oh geez, thats a low blow, I t hought only dickarde had that
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> >
> > -Jack
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Re: [MBZ] poll -- just for my own curiousity .. Gary sees sooomanygay women

[Gary Hurst]

i drive that thing at least once a week.  it kinda grows on me.

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> -Jack
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> On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 3:57 PM, Gary Hurst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> > what the hell do you know, newbie?
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Re: [MBZ] poll -- just for my own curiousity .. Gary sees sooomanygay women

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

Oh geez, thats a low blow, I t hought only dickarde had that

Jack Dahlgren wrote:
> I have $17,000 of wisdom.
> 
> -Jack
> 
> On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 3:57 PM, Gary Hurst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
>> what the hell do you know, newbie?
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Re: [MBZ] poll -- just for my own curiousity .. Gary sees sooomanygay women

[Jack Dahlgren]

I have $17,000 of wisdom.

-Jack

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> what the hell do you know, newbie?
>
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Re: [MBZ] poll -- just for my own curiousity

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

yea, Loren is a real big idiot

Jack Dahlgren wrote:
> On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 3:47 PM, Loren Faeth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> 
>> and your point is?
>>
>> We are dealing with a sect that is determined to kill or convert us
>> by any means.  That includes infiltration, and using our own systems
>> to kill and maim.  Remember Sept 11, 2001?  Those were just "peaceful
>> fun loving students."  These are people who believe that a lie told
>> to an "infidel" is not a lie.  None of us know what is really in
>> Osama Obama's mind.  (just quoting ted Kennedy)  It is no accident
>> that the numbers of moslem immigrants has skyrocketed in the past 10
>> or 12 year.
>>
>> Whether Obama is a terrorist or not, it is very clear he will be far
>> more friendly to terrorists than most Americans are.  Although
>> distasteful,  the notion is that a politician elected US Senator is a
>> terrorist, unfortunately is NOT absurd!   Obama's rapid, vacuous rise
>> indicate there are forces beyond the normal behind him.  Who is to
>> say it is not the force of wa ha bi?
>>
>>
> 
> You may be an idiot, but I'm hoping you don't have a fleet of gas guzzlers
> too.
> 
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Re: [MBZ] poll -- just for my own curiousity

[Jack Dahlgren]

On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 3:47 PM, Loren Faeth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

> and your point is?
>
> We are dealing with a sect that is determined to kill or convert us
> by any means.  That includes infiltration, and using our own systems
> to kill and maim.  Remember Sept 11, 2001?  Those were just "peaceful
> fun loving students."  These are people who believe that a lie told
> to an "infidel" is not a lie.  None of us know what is really in
> Osama Obama's mind.  (just quoting ted Kennedy)  It is no accident
> that the numbers of moslem immigrants has skyrocketed in the past 10
> or 12 year.
>
> Whether Obama is a terrorist or not, it is very clear he will be far
> more friendly to terrorists than most Americans are.  Although
> distasteful,  the notion is that a politician elected US Senator is a
> terrorist, unfortunately is NOT absurd!   Obama's rapid, vacuous rise
> indicate there are forces beyond the normal behind him.  Who is to
> say it is not the force of wa ha bi?
>
>

You may be an idiot, but I'm hoping you don't have a fleet of gas guzzlers
too.

-Jack "watch out for the peanuts" Dahlgren
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Re: [MBZ] Be Careful Voting this year!

[Mitch Haley]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I believe that we pulled out of Turkey.

So, we had an established position in Turkey, and they used the new Cuban bases 
to negotiate us out of Turkey?

Excerpt from Wiki:

The climax period of the crisis began on October 15, 1962, when United
States reconnaissance photographs taken by an American U-2 spy plane
revealed missile bases being built in Cuba, and ended two weeks later on
October 28, 1962, when President of the United States John F. Kennedy
and United Nations Secretary-General U Thant reached an agreement with
the Soviets to dismantle the missiles in Cuba in exchange for a no
invasion agreement and a secret removal of the Jupiter and Thor missiles
in Turkey.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cuban_Missile_Crisis

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Re: [MBZ] poll -- just for my own curiousity

[Loren Faeth]

and your point is?

We are dealing with a sect that is determined to kill or convert us 
by any means.  That includes infiltration, and using our own systems 
to kill and maim.  Remember Sept 11, 2001?  Those were just "peaceful 
fun loving students."  These are people who believe that a lie told 
to an "infidel" is not a lie.  None of us know what is really in 
Osama Obama's mind.  (just quoting ted Kennedy)  It is no accident 
that the numbers of moslem immigrants has skyrocketed in the past 10 
or 12 year.

Whether Obama is a terrorist or not, it is very clear he will be far 
more friendly to terrorists than most Americans are.  Although 
distasteful,  the notion is that a politician elected US Senator is a 
terrorist, unfortunately is NOT absurd!   Obama's rapid, vacuous rise 
indicate there are forces beyond the normal behind him.  Who is to 
say it is not the force of wa ha bi?

At 06:15 PM 7/15/2008, you wrote:
>And your point is?
>
>Although distasteful, it just points out how absurd the notion is that a
>politician elected US Senator is a terrorist.
>
>People... regardless if you are a Republican or Democrat, you have to see
>the absurdity of this shit the tube pumps into your home. Think for Christ's
>sake before opening your mouth and regurgitating this garbage.
>
>5 decades ago it would have been a babushka, a woolen hat, vodka and a
>picture of Stalin.
>
>6 decades ago it would have been a kimono, geta sandals and a picture of
>Tojo.
>
>
>
>
>-Original Message-
>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>On Behalf Of Redghost
>Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2008 4:49 PM
>To: Mercedes Discussion List
>Subject: Re: [MBZ] poll -- just for my own curiousity
>
>The New Yorker is in trouble for a cartoon of Michelle dressed in
>terrorist garb, barrack in man dress, and Osama on the wall of the
>Oval Office.
>
>clay
>
>On 15 Jul 2008, at 15:44, TE wrote:
>
> > Oh how original!
> >
> > How long have you been waiting to crank out that gem?
> >
> > Oh wait, you did 5 times already but nobody laughed... guess they
> > didn't
> > hear you.
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:mercedes-
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > On Behalf Of Luther
> > Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2008 11:01 AM
> > To: Mercedes Discussion List
> > Subject: Re: [MBZ] poll -- just for my own curiousity
> >
> > E, did I mean Obama?
> >
> > Luther
> >
> > Luther wrote:
> >> At least they won't help put Osama in office
> >>
> >> Luther
> >>
> >> Wonko the Sane wrote:
> >>
> >>> True. And unfortunately they still vote.
> >>>
> >>> On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 10:34 AM, Luther  >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
>  Anyone who does is ignorant and ill-informed.
> 
>  Luther
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [MBZ] poll -- just for my own curiousity

[Gary Hurst]

nah, a kimono and a sword and he's got my vote on the sexy factor

On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 7:00 PM, Jack Dahlgren <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

> On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 4:15 PM, TE <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> >
> > 6 decades ago it would have been a kimono, geta sandals and a picture of
> > Tojo.
> >
> >
>
> Am I the only one who thinks Barack would look fetching in a kimono?
>
> -Jack
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Re: [MBZ] poll -- just for my own curiousity

[Gary Hurst]

stalinist islamic worshippers of the emperor.  gotta watch em!  better take
your pants off at the airport to stay safe from them!

On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 7:15 PM, TE <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> And your point is?
>
> Although distasteful, it just points out how absurd the notion is that a
> politician elected US Senator is a terrorist.
>
> People... regardless if you are a Republican or Democrat, you have to see
> the absurdity of this shit the tube pumps into your home. Think for
> Christ's
> sake before opening your mouth and regurgitating this garbage.
>
> 5 decades ago it would have been a babushka, a woolen hat, vodka and a
> picture of Stalin.
>
> 6 decades ago it would have been a kimono, geta sandals and a picture of
> Tojo.
>
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> On Behalf Of Redghost
> Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2008 4:49 PM
> To: Mercedes Discussion List
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] poll -- just for my own curiousity
>
> The New Yorker is in trouble for a cartoon of Michelle dressed in
> terrorist garb, barrack in man dress, and Osama on the wall of the
> Oval Office.
>
> clay
>
> On 15 Jul 2008, at 15:44, TE wrote:
>
> > Oh how original!
> >
> > How long have you been waiting to crank out that gem?
> >
> > Oh wait, you did 5 times already but nobody laughed... guess they
> > didn't
> > hear you.
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:mercedes-
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > On Behalf Of Luther
> > Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2008 11:01 AM
> > To: Mercedes Discussion List
> > Subject: Re: [MBZ] poll -- just for my own curiousity
> >
> > E, did I mean Obama?
> >
> > Luther
> >
> > Luther wrote:
> >> At least they won't help put Osama in office
> >>
> >> Luther
> >>
> >> Wonko the Sane wrote:
> >>
> >>> True. And unfortunately they still vote.
> >>>
> >>> On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 10:34 AM, Luther  >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
>  Anyone who does is ignorant and ill-informed.
> 
>  Luther
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [MBZ] poll -- just for my own curiousity

[Jack Dahlgren]

On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 4:15 PM, TE <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>
> 6 decades ago it would have been a kimono, geta sandals and a picture of
> Tojo.
>
>

Am I the only one who thinks Barack would look fetching in a kimono?

-Jack
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Re: [MBZ] poll -- just for my own curiousity .. Gary sees sooomanygay women

[Gary Hurst]

what the hell do you know, newbie?

On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 6:54 PM, Jack Dahlgren <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

> On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 3:19 PM, R A Bennell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > I should have been smarter and not been such a sheep and followed the
> herd
> > like
> > everyone else. I particulary feel that way because I have traditionally
> > tried to be conservative when it comes to
> > things like fuel economy and now find myself sitting with a fleet of
> > guzzlers wondering how I ended up in that
> > spot.
>
>
> You are right Randy, don't blame everyone else. You are responsible for
> your
> own actions!
>
> -Jack
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Re: [MBZ] poll -- just for my own curiousity .. Gary sees sooo manygay women

[Gary Hurst]

yes, i'm a whiner, but i don't yet fear peanut dust and germ(an)s

On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 6:02 PM, Donald Snook <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Gary referred to the country as a "nation of whiners"
>
> Do you include yourself in this group.  I would say that unfortunately you
> are probably right and that I am included in that group.  I will try to
> stop. Of course, as a lawyer, I probably contribute to the problem.  BUT, in
> my defense, your Honor, I defend cases against the whiners.  I am doing my
> best to keep them at bay.
>
> Donald H. Snook
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Re: [MBZ] poll -- just for my own curiousity .. Gary sees sooomanygay women

[Jack Dahlgren]

On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 3:19 PM, R A Bennell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I should have been smarter and not been such a sheep and followed the herd
> like
> everyone else. I particulary feel that way because I have traditionally
> tried to be conservative when it comes to
> things like fuel economy and now find myself sitting with a fleet of
> guzzlers wondering how I ended up in that
> spot.


You are right Randy, don't blame everyone else. You are responsible for your
own actions!

-Jack
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Re: [MBZ] 300td 1982 deerslayer radiator

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

Thanks, I didnt even go into the patching idea.  None the less, he 
doesnt seem like he wants to order from Rusty or myself for some reason. 
  Thats OK.

Tom Hargrave wrote:
> For starters, our cars are not made in China, they are made in Germany. But
> many parts are made in China.
> 
> Second, I would not trust the life of my engine on a epoxy patch. But I
> guess I've been around longer than you and have seen too many examples of
> people destroying engines & transmissions while "saving money".
> 
> Third, as Kaleb stated, BEHR makes a good radiator.
> 
> Fourth, while you are at it, you need to replace both radiator hoses along
> with the radiator & use good hoses - no local "discount store" crap. You
> need hoses from Napa or from Rusty.
> 
> Thanks,
> Tom Hargrave
> www.kegkits.com
> 256-656-1924
>  
> 
> -Original Message-
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> To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
> Subject: [MBZ] 300td 1982 deerslayer radiator
> 
> Folks
> 
> no one has offered me a decent deal on a good used radiator for my  
> 300td Deerslayer. With a bit of searching i've found Silla Radiators  
> which are made  guess where? . CHINA just like our cars!!
> 
> They are VERY inexpensive. Less than half the price of a Behr. Has  
> anyone seen or used or heard about one? Email me directly if you have  
> any info.
> 
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Re: [MBZ] 300td 1982 deerslayer radiator

[Tom Hargrave]

I already did before you sent out this email.

Thanks,
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Please. Chinese? Did you not see my quote earlier? Someone back me up on
this. Do we have no shame? 


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Subject: [MBZ] 300td 1982 deerslayer radiator

Folks

no one has offered me a decent deal on a good used radiator for my  
300td Deerslayer. With a bit of searching i've found Silla Radiators  
which are made  guess where? . CHINA just like our cars!!

They are VERY inexpensive. Less than half the price of a Behr. Has  
anyone seen or used or heard about one? Email me directly if you have  
any info.

Meanwhile, I've patched mine up using WATERWELD putty , from walmart  
jb weld and it seems to be holding fine


we'll see.



thanks,

xx rick
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Re: [MBZ] 300td 1982 deerslayer radiator

[Loren Faeth]

A good radiator is a lot cheaper than another engine.  Have you 
priced a head, pistons and sleeves recently?  Add a gasket set, new 
injectors, machine shop work and labor and you begin to get the idea.

I am cheap, but radiators and tires are not the places to go 
cheap.  The radiator is a small insurance policy that you will get 
there.  Good tires are insurance that you will stay on the road, be 
able do dodge idiots and be able to stop in the shortest practical distance.

At 05:27 PM 7/15/2008, you wrote:
>Folks
>
>no one has offered me a decent deal on a good used radiator for my
>300td Deerslayer. With a bit of searching i've found Silla Radiators
>which are made  guess where? . CHINA just like our cars!!
>
>They are VERY inexpensive. Less than half the price of a Behr. Has
>anyone seen or used or heard about one? Email me directly if you have
>any info.
>
>Meanwhile, I've patched mine up using WATERWELD putty , from walmart
>jb weld and it seems to be holding fine
>
>
>we'll see.
>
>
>
>thanks,
>
>xx rick
>Rick Hawkins
>
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>
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Re: [MBZ] 300td 1982 deerslayer radiator

[Tom Hargrave]

For starters, our cars are not made in China, they are made in Germany. But
many parts are made in China.

Second, I would not trust the life of my engine on a epoxy patch. But I
guess I've been around longer than you and have seen too many examples of
people destroying engines & transmissions while "saving money".

Third, as Kaleb stated, BEHR makes a good radiator.

Fourth, while you are at it, you need to replace both radiator hoses along
with the radiator & use good hoses - no local "discount store" crap. You
need hoses from Napa or from Rusty.

Thanks,
Tom Hargrave
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Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2008 5:27 PM
To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: [MBZ] 300td 1982 deerslayer radiator

Folks

no one has offered me a decent deal on a good used radiator for my  
300td Deerslayer. With a bit of searching i've found Silla Radiators  
which are made  guess where? . CHINA just like our cars!!

They are VERY inexpensive. Less than half the price of a Behr. Has  
anyone seen or used or heard about one? Email me directly if you have  
any info.

Meanwhile, I've patched mine up using WATERWELD putty , from walmart  
jb weld and it seems to be holding fine


we'll see.



thanks,

xx rick
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Re: [MBZ] 300td 1982 deerslayer radiator

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

Well, OK, I will just come right out and say it.  This guy emails me a 
few days ago with an extensive list of parts.  I take the time to see 
what I have available and give him quotes.  Did not have a radiator, 
sent him your way.  Next thing I know he is posting on my list here 
looking for the parts.  WTF?  I have him a quote.  Does he think he is 
going to get it cheaper?  Its the sale of those parts that funds this 
list.  I have people do that every once in a while.  When they do screw 
around, they run the risk of somebody else coming along and buying the 
parts that he needs, then I dont have anything for him.  Oh well, about 
the like the guy who didnt want the E420 because it had brake dust on 
the wheels.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Please. Chinese? Did you not see my quote earlier? Someone back me up on 
> this. Do we have no shame? 
> 
> 
> --Original Message--
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> Sent: Jul 15, 2008 10:27 PM
> Subject: [MBZ] 300td 1982 deerslayer radiator
> 
> Folks
> 
> no one has offered me a decent deal on a good used radiator for my  
> 300td Deerslayer. With a bit of searching i've found Silla Radiators  
> which are made  guess where? . CHINA just like our cars!!
> 
> They are VERY inexpensive. Less than half the price of a Behr. Has  
> anyone seen or used or heard about one? Email me directly if you have  
> any info.
> 
> Meanwhile, I've patched mine up using WATERWELD putty , from walmart  
> jb weld and it seems to be holding fine
> 
> 
> we'll see.
> 
> 
> 
> thanks,
> 
> xx rick
> Rick Hawkins
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  84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D,
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Re: [MBZ] 300td 1982 deerslayer radiator

[rusty]

Please. Chinese? Did you not see my quote earlier? Someone back me up on this. 
Do we have no shame? 


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Subject: [MBZ] 300td 1982 deerslayer radiator

Folks

no one has offered me a decent deal on a good used radiator for my  
300td Deerslayer. With a bit of searching i've found Silla Radiators  
which are made  guess where? . CHINA just like our cars!!

They are VERY inexpensive. Less than half the price of a Behr. Has  
anyone seen or used or heard about one? Email me directly if you have  
any info.

Meanwhile, I've patched mine up using WATERWELD putty , from walmart  
jb weld and it seems to be holding fine


we'll see.



thanks,

xx rick
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Re: [MBZ] 300td 1982 deerslayer radiator

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

PS, I h ave never heard of that brand of radiator so I cant say if they 
are junk or not.  For any car you cared about, I would only go with a behr

Rick Hawkins Java wrote:
> Folks
> 
> no one has offered me a decent deal on a good used radiator for my  
> 300td Deerslayer. With a bit of searching i've found Silla Radiators  
> which are made  guess where? . CHINA just like our cars!!
> 
> They are VERY inexpensive. Less than half the price of a Behr. Has  
> anyone seen or used or heard about one? Email me directly if you have  
> any info.
> 
> Meanwhile, I've patched mine up using WATERWELD putty , from walmart  
> jb weld and it seems to be holding fine
> 
> 
> we'll see.
> 
> 
> 
> thanks,
> 
> xx rick
> Rick Hawkins
> 
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> www.javacycles.com
> 
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> 
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  84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D,
  76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250, 66 220SEb
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Re: [MBZ] 300td 1982 deerslayer radiator

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

Did you check with Rusty, seems he sent you a price on a new one, like I 
sent you prices for used?  Thats about as cheap as it gets for the real deal

Rick Hawkins Java wrote:
> Folks
> 
> no one has offered me a decent deal on a good used radiator for my  
> 300td Deerslayer. With a bit of searching i've found Silla Radiators  
> which are made  guess where? . CHINA just like our cars!!
> 
> They are VERY inexpensive. Less than half the price of a Behr. Has  
> anyone seen or used or heard about one? Email me directly if you have  
> any info.
> 
> Meanwhile, I've patched mine up using WATERWELD putty , from walmart  
> jb weld and it seems to be holding fine
> 
> 
> we'll see.
> 
> 
> 
> thanks,
> 
> xx rick
> Rick Hawkins
> 
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> www.javacycles.com
> 
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> 
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  89 260E, 87 300SDL, 86 560SL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro,
  84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D,
  76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250, 66 220SEb
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[MBZ] 300td 1982 deerslayer radiator

[Rick Hawkins Java]

Folks

no one has offered me a decent deal on a good used radiator for my  
300td Deerslayer. With a bit of searching i've found Silla Radiators  
which are made  guess where? . CHINA just like our cars!!

They are VERY inexpensive. Less than half the price of a Behr. Has  
anyone seen or used or heard about one? Email me directly if you have  
any info.

Meanwhile, I've patched mine up using WATERWELD putty , from walmart  
jb weld and it seems to be holding fine


we'll see.



thanks,

xx rick
Rick Hawkins

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www.javacycles.com

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Java Bajaj Cycles
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Re: [MBZ] poll -- just for my own curiousity .. Gary sees sooomanygay women

[R A Bennell]

Twisting this off onto another topic but it is sometimes difficult not to sound 
like we are whining. The whole
energy discussion of the past few days on here is a case in point. We are all 
whining about the cost of fuel (in
more ways than one) and whining that it isn't our fault and someone should have 
saved us from ourselves. Darned
hard to stand up and just say I should have been smarter and not been such a 
sheep and followed the herd like
everyone else. I particulary feel that way because I have traditionally tried 
to be conservative when it comes to
things like fuel economy and now find myself sitting with a fleet of guzzlers 
wondering how I ended up in that
spot. Even my so called frugal old diesel isn't an efficient one and now diesel 
is more expensive than gas.(more
whining)

Randy

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sooomanygay women


Gary referred to the country as a "nation of whiners"

Do you include yourself in this group.  I would say that unfortunately you are 
probably right and that I am
included in that group.  I will try to stop. Of course, as a lawyer, I probably 
contribute to the problem.  BUT, in
my defense, your Honor, I defend cases against the whiners.  I am doing my best 
to keep them at bay.

Donald H. Snook



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Re: [MBZ] poll -- just for my own curiousity

[TE]

And your point is?

Although distasteful, it just points out how absurd the notion is that a
politician elected US Senator is a terrorist.

People... regardless if you are a Republican or Democrat, you have to see
the absurdity of this shit the tube pumps into your home. Think for Christ's
sake before opening your mouth and regurgitating this garbage.

5 decades ago it would have been a babushka, a woolen hat, vodka and a
picture of Stalin.

6 decades ago it would have been a kimono, geta sandals and a picture of
Tojo.




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The New Yorker is in trouble for a cartoon of Michelle dressed in  
terrorist garb, barrack in man dress, and Osama on the wall of the  
Oval Office.

clay

On 15 Jul 2008, at 15:44, TE wrote:

> Oh how original!
>
> How long have you been waiting to crank out that gem?
>
> Oh wait, you did 5 times already but nobody laughed... guess they  
> didn't
> hear you.
>
> -Original Message-
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> On Behalf Of Luther
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>
> E, did I mean Obama?
>
> Luther
>
> Luther wrote:
>> At least they won't help put Osama in office
>>
>> Luther
>>
>> Wonko the Sane wrote:
>>
>>> True. And unfortunately they still vote.
>>>
>>> On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 10:34 AM, Luther >> [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
 Anyone who does is ignorant and ill-informed.

 Luther





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Re: [MBZ] Be Careful Voting this year!

[PM7088]

I believe that we pulled out of Turkey.  Tit for Tat

Pete


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> Actually, the Russians lost - they were forced to pull their missiles out of
> Cuba and dismantle their launch sites, all under the watchful eye of the US.
> 
> Thanks,
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>  

> 
> Could you elaborate on that?
> 
> John
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Re: [MBZ] poll -- just for my own curiousity

[PM7088]

I would expect a devout Muslim to take his oath on the Koran, it is the Scared 
Volume to his religion much as mine id the King James version of the Bible.

Anyone who doesn't agree may feel free to Google "racist".  If the shoe fit, 
wear it!

Pete, who has many Muslim friends and cannot claim to be as devout as they are.


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> Luther wrote:
> > Anyone who does is ignorant and ill-informed.
> 
> I know of at least one person who stated he was a Muslim and honestly 
> believed it.  She's also attended a KKK meeting...  Fortunately I don't 
> have to deal with her often!!
> 
> I just *LOVE* living in the south...
> 
> John
> 
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Re: [MBZ] poll -- just for my own curiousity .. Gary sees sooo manygay women

[Donald Snook]

Gary referred to the country as a "nation of whiners"

Do you include yourself in this group.  I would say that unfortunately you are 
probably right and that I am included in that group.  I will try to stop. Of 
course, as a lawyer, I probably contribute to the problem.  BUT, in my defense, 
your Honor, I defend cases against the whiners.  I am doing my best to keep 
them at bay.

Donald H. Snook

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Re: [MBZ] Spamming the list with a 1987 300D for sale

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

You mean Lt Don aka Wacko the insane?  Everyone who is smart just 
ignores him anyway, so you have nothing to fear.  I cant count the 
nummber of people admiral wacko has run off over the years :)

Jack Dahlgren wrote:
> On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 8:33 AM, Gary Hurst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> i find it pretty shocking that we are not good enough to talk to, but good
>> enough only to try to dump your junk on.  why don't you crawl back in your
>> hole with knutson?  sell the car to him on credit or something?
> 
> Gary,
> 
> I LOVE talking to you. It is just LtDan who is the problem. He is no
> frada just as kleb is no dickarde when it comes to entertainment
> value. I prefer my nostalgia sealed in a humidified box rather than
> laid out here under a hot okie sun to weather, crack and sag. The
> golden days have turned to brass. Is it my fault that I prefer tragedy
> to writings on a bathroom wall?
> 
> -Jack
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Re: [MBZ] Decent looking low mileage 87 300D in Atlanta on CL

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That is pretty cheap

Gary Hurst wrote:
> whereabouts you live?  and that price,  i kinda think it demands a look if
> you are in the neighborhood.
> 
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Re: [MBZ] the South and KKK

[Bill R]

I helped communities organize hunger walks for some years, and what often
ended up working better than hiring cops was finding crossing guards - well
trained and cheaper also if there were none in the walk to volunteer.  The
cost for walker insurance and of  required or necessary assistance at road
crossings was built into our national budget.
BillR

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Rolf wrote:
> Let them protest it's their right. Its not their right to receive that
> level of protection unless they pay for it.

Nope, they don't pay for it.
Now, if the Lung Association wants to put on a 5k for a fundraiser, then the

city of Lansing will provide a couple of dozen cops and send the association
the 
bill for overtime.

Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] poll -- just for my own curiousity

[Redghost]

The New Yorker is in trouble for a cartoon of Michelle dressed in  
terrorist garb, barrack in man dress, and Osama on the wall of the  
Oval Office.

clay

On 15 Jul 2008, at 15:44, TE wrote:

> Oh how original!
>
> How long have you been waiting to crank out that gem?
>
> Oh wait, you did 5 times already but nobody laughed... guess they  
> didn't
> hear you.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:mercedes- 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> On Behalf Of Luther
> Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2008 11:01 AM
> To: Mercedes Discussion List
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] poll -- just for my own curiousity
>
> E, did I mean Obama?
>
> Luther
>
> Luther wrote:
>> At least they won't help put Osama in office
>>
>> Luther
>>
>> Wonko the Sane wrote:
>>
>>> True. And unfortunately they still vote.
>>>
>>> On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 10:34 AM, Luther >> [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
 Anyone who does is ignorant and ill-informed.

 Luther





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Re: [MBZ] poll -- just for my own curiousity

[TE]

Oh how original!

How long have you been waiting to crank out that gem?

Oh wait, you did 5 times already but nobody laughed... guess they didn't
hear you.

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E, did I mean Obama?

Luther

Luther wrote:
> At least they won't help put Osama in office
>
> Luther
>
> Wonko the Sane wrote:
>   
>> True. And unfortunately they still vote.
>>
>> On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 10:34 AM, Luther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>>   
>> 
>>> Anyone who does is ignorant and ill-informed.
>>>
>>> Luther
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 
>>>   


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Re: [MBZ] Totally OT poll -- just for my own curiousity

[Redghost]

Her father was well educated and worked here in seattle for years.   
Mrs Obama graduated from High School here, then went to HI to get  
knocked up.  There she found a love for dark meat, having not had or  
seen it before

clay

On 15 Jul 2008, at 07:01, Mitch Haley wrote:

> Rich Thomas wrote:
>> (1) He *should* be a muslim per his "father's" choice of religion,
>
> Why put "father's" in quotation marks? Are you talking about Barack  
> Sr. or Lolo
> Soetoro (his stepfather)? It's my understanding that he went to a  
> muslim public
> school (AKA terrorist training camp) in Indonesia for a while, then  
> his mama
> stuck him in a catholic school. When he was ten, he was shipped off  
> to a private
> (non church) school in Hawaii, according to what's currently on  
> Wiki. That whole
> thing about living in Hawaii with maternal grandparents seems way  
> off, didn't
> they always live in Iowa?
>
> My favorite "father" story about Barack Jr:
> When he won the NC primary, his victory speech included a line  
> about upholding
> the principles behind the flag on his father's coffin. So  
> apparently he's
> working for Kenya while drawing a paycheck from the USA government.
>
> Mitch.
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Re: [MBZ] Old news, petro burning diesel engine

[Rick Knoble]

> Old international tractors used to start on gasoline, and switch over  
> to diesel once warmed up.

Same with old John Deeres.

Rick Knoble 
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Re: [MBZ] the South and KKK

[Mitch Haley]

Rolf wrote:
> Let them protest it's their right. Its not their right to receive that
> level of protection unless they pay for it.

Nope, they don't pay for it.
Now, if the Lung Association wants to put on a 5k for a fundraiser, then the 
city of Lansing will provide a couple of dozen cops and send the association 
the 
bill for overtime.

Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] the South and KKK

[Rolf]

Let them protest it's their right. Its not their right to receive that
level of protection unless they pay for it.

-Rolf

Mitch Haley wrote:
> Rolf wrote:
>   
>> The last KKK rally here they got kicked out of town by on lookers. Cops
>> didn't do much to stop them.
>> 
>
> When they have a rally in Michigan's capital, the gov't builds a tall chain 
> link 
> fence for them to stand behind and pays overtime to a hundred cops. And the 
> local newspaper does a dozen or two articles vilifying them, which amounts to 
> about a million dollars worth of free advertising. What a waste.
>
> Mitch.
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Re: [MBZ] the South and KKK

[Mitch Haley]

Rolf wrote:
> The last KKK rally here they got kicked out of town by on lookers. Cops
> didn't do much to stop them.

When they have a rally in Michigan's capital, the gov't builds a tall chain 
link 
fence for them to stand behind and pays overtime to a hundred cops. And the 
local newspaper does a dozen or two articles vilifying them, which amounts to 
about a million dollars worth of free advertising. What a waste.

Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] poll -- just for my own curiousity .. Gary sees sooo manygay women

[Robert Rentfro]

InterestingI've never made that connection.
Does Rusty know you're doing all this deep thinking while on the clock?

Bob R

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Subject: Re: [MBZ] poll -- just for my own curiousity .. Gary sees sooo
manygay women

no, it's just the feminization of america

when i was a kid, the neighborhood was our small town.  there was  a good
sized hardware/department store called "wainrite's".  me and my friends
would roam around there as we had nothing better to do.  they would throw us
out.

they had a security guard who looked like a giant to us.  he'd see us, grab
us by the neck, carry us to the door and literally throw us out.  we would
then wait until he was out of earshot and give him a few choice racial slurs
and discuss how lucky he was that we didn't want to get in trouble or his
ass would be kicked.

this was just life.  we weren't upset or traumatized, but just had to move
on to another playground.  if i went him and told my dad what happened, he'd
go down to the store and congratulate the guy for not putting up with our
punk kid bs and commend his restraint for not beating the tar out of us.

today this would be a national scandal, especially if peanut dust was
present.

the rise of women has created a faggotized nation of whiners and
allergetics.

On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 2:08 PM, Mitch Haley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Gary Hurst wrote:
> > dubya is very sexy to the church going ladies
>
> The ones I used to work with worship Him, as he promises to keep their
> families
> safe.
>
> There is a correlation between the rise of the nanny state / loss of our
> freedoms and the rise of women's suffrage, but I'm not sure if one caused
> the
> other or if they are just two symptoms of some undknown cause.
>
> Mitch.
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Re: [MBZ] Crushing classic cars

[Mitch Haley]

I thought the youtube was going to be "Reincarnation":
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3rv2-DYgzcY

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Re: [MBZ] Decent looking low mileage 87 300D in Atlanta on CL

[Robert Rentfro]

Maybe since it has "cylenders" the head will be flawless.
If it were closer I'd look. Seems a little too good, you think?

Bob R

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Rolf wrote: "I'll do a PPI for list members for free if anyone is
interested."

http://atlanta.craigslist.org/car/755146023.html

isn't that awfully cheap for 87 300D with only 80,000 miles?  I wonder how
long it would take me to get from Atlanta to Wichita?

Probably has the bead head it would crack somewhere in Alabama.

Donald H. Snook

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Re: [MBZ] poll -- just for my own curiousity .. Gary sees sooo many gay women

[Rich Thomas]

Come on Gary, don't hold back!  Tell us how you really feel!

--R

Gary Hurst wrote:
> no, it's just the feminization of america
>
> when i was a kid, the neighborhood was our small town.  there was  a good
> sized hardware/department store called "wainrite's".  me and my friends
> would roam around there as we had nothing better to do.  they would throw us
> out.
>
> they had a security guard who looked like a giant to us.  he'd see us, grab
> us by the neck, carry us to the door and literally throw us out.  we would
> then wait until he was out of earshot and give him a few choice racial slurs
> and discuss how lucky he was that we didn't want to get in trouble or his
> ass would be kicked.
>
> this was just life.  we weren't upset or traumatized, but just had to move
> on to another playground.  if i went him and told my dad what happened, he'd
> go down to the store and congratulate the guy for not putting up with our
> punk kid bs and commend his restraint for not beating the tar out of us.
>
> today this would be a national scandal, especially if peanut dust was
> present.
>
> the rise of women has created a faggotized nation of whiners and
> allergetics.
>
> On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 2:08 PM, Mitch Haley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>   
>> Gary Hurst wrote:
>> 
>>> dubya is very sexy to the church going ladies
>>>   
>> The ones I used to work with worship Him, as he promises to keep their
>> families
>> safe.
>>
>> There is a correlation between the rise of the nanny state / loss of our
>> freedoms and the rise of women's suffrage, but I'm not sure if one caused
>> the
>> other or if they are just two symptoms of some undknown cause.
>>
>> Mitch.
>>
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