Re: [MBZ] Fw: World Air Traffic - this is cool
I couldn't remember his name, knew it started with an M though... Massive shift in a Mercator projection around the poles... -Curt Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2009 23:14:56 -0400 From: Frederick W Moir fred.s...@verizon.net Subject: Re: [MBZ] Fw: World Air Traffic - this is cool To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: 0kqc00gr6rox4...@vms173001.mailsrvcs.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Curt, et al. It was some old dude named Mercator, or something like that. Guy needed glasses. Fred Moir Lynn MA At 05:29 PM 9/21/2009, you wrote: Round globe on a flat map... Anybody ever get those emails kids these days don't know anything where they talk about how dumb kids are these days? sarcasm Don't you oldtimers know anything? Haven't you ever studied map projections? /sarcasm ;) -Curt -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090922/f3550a66/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] sing it again, Sam
Pretty obvious isn't it? Insurance companies should gladly pay out on every claim... I've been thinking that an not-for-profit ins co could do pretty well as its expenses would be so much lower and there wouldn't be the drive to provide profit to the investors. The problem is where does the seed money to get started come from? -Curt Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2009 23:41:48 EDT From: relng...@aol.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] sing it again, Sam To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: c5d.592c4e79.37e9a...@aol.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 ...Insurance is a racket, you know.? It is an organization that makes it look like it is helping, but only skrews with anyone, and everyone. They take, take, take premiums in the guise that someday something *might* happen and then they run and hide when it does happen Since you have been preaching this sermon for MANY months now, how about telling how you came to this conclusion. H? RLE -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090922/1a1c6788/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] sing it again, Sam
Why would expenses be so much lower in a not-for-profit insurance company? On Tue, 22 Sep 2009 06:48 -0700, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: Pretty obvious isn't it? Insurance companies should gladly pay out on every claim... I've been thinking that an not-for-profit ins co could do pretty well as its expenses would be so much lower and there wouldn't be the drive to provide profit to the investors. The problem is where does the seed money to get started come from? -Curt Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2009 23:41:48 EDT From: relng...@aol.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] sing it again, Sam To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: c5d.592c4e79.37e9a...@aol.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 ...Insurance is a racket, you know.? It is an organization that makes it look like it is helping, but only skrews with anyone, and everyone. They take, take, take premiums in the guise that someday something *might* happen and then they run and hide when it does happen Since you have been preaching this sermon for MANY months now, how about telling how you came to this conclusion. H? RLE -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090922/1a1c6788/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Car collection
What's with that Edsel? It's rear bumper extension is so broad could be used as a picnic table! On Mon, Sep 21, 2009 at 11:15 PM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: I remember when I was 3 or 4 going to pick up the new baby blue 58 Pontiac Super Chief with my parents, it was a really exciting thing so I remember it pretty well. That car was fast as hell at the time, I think that is why they got it. It had the gas filler located behind the driver side tail light, I remember going to gas stations and the kid looking all over, then my mom or dad would have to go show him where it was. Too cool. It got wrecked when my dad t-boned some woman who pulled out in front of us, in some little town in northern Indiana, I was in the back seat and got a physics demonstration. No seatbelts. I think it got traded in after repair on a new 63 Catalina, dk blue. --R relng...@aol.com wrote: If you like chrome and godawful color combinations, you will be right at home here... http://www.59ford.com/carfriends/themountaintop.html -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090921/bd11cf6c/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090922/d7ef651b/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] sing it again, Sam
Mountain Man said: ...Insurance is a racket, you know.? It is an organization that makes it look like it is helping, but only skrews with anyone, and everyone. They take, take, take premiums in the guise that someday something *might* happen and then they run and hide when it does happen ...to which Roger said: Since you have been preaching this sermon for MANY months now, how about telling how you came to this conclusion. H? ...and Curt said: Pretty obvious isn't it? Insurance companies should gladly pay out on every claim... I'm with Curt and Mao here. A for-profit insurance company is by definition broken from the policyholder's point of view. Its first responsibility is to its bondholders, its second to its shareholders, then (a distant third) to policyholders. Profit comes from paying out less in claims than comes in by premiums. Ipso facto, many claims must be denied, but choosing which to deny on the claims' merits requires significant overhead in the form of adjusters and support personnel. Therefore the most efficient and most profitable way for an insurance company to operate is to pay out claims on a simple basis that does not require evaluating their merits, such as first-come-first-served. Effective for the shareholders, but manifestly unfair for the policyholders. Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Car collection
andrew strasfogel wrote: What's with that Edsel? It's rear bumper extension is so broad could be used as a picnic table! Looks like it's one of many on that page. They all look modified, either for tailgate party tables or platforms to ride on in parades. http://www.59ford.com/carfriends/themountaintop.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] sing it again, Sam
Our major insurance company here, Blue Cross/Blue Shield, is a non-profit. Mike LaFleur From: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com To: Diesel List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2009 9:48:04 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] sing it again, Sam Pretty obvious isn't it? Insurance companies should gladly pay out on every claim... I've been thinking that an not-for-profit ins co could do pretty well as its expenses would be so much lower and there wouldn't be the drive to provide profit to the investors. The problem is where does the seed money to get started come from? -Curt Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2009 23:41:48 EDT From: relng...@aol.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] sing it again, Sam To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: c5d.592c4e79.37e9a...@aol.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 ...Insurance is a racket, you know.? It is an organization that makes it look like it is helping, but only skrews with anyone, and everyone. They take, take, take premiums in the guise that someday something *might* happen and then they run and hide when it does happen Since you have been preaching this sermon for MANY months now, how about telling how you came to this conclusion. H? RLE -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090922/1a1c6788/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090922/dd1e82a4/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Car collection
On Tue, Sep 22, 2009 at 8:50 AM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: andrew strasfogel wrote: http://www.59ford.com/carfriends/themountaintop.html What's with that Edsel? It's rear bumper extension is so broad could be used as a picnic table! Looks like it's one of many on that page. They all look modified, either for tailgate party tables or platforms to ride on in parades. I hate those Continental kit things with a passion. I agree that the Edsel one on that page is the ugliest of uglies. I'm greatly relieved to find that Googling Mercedes continental kit turns up nothing relevant, although here's something from the results guaranteed to chill the blood: http://blog.cardomain.com/2008/06/24/k-car-with-a-co/ Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] sing it again, Sam
On Tue, 22 Sep 2009 08:31 -0700, Alex Chamberlain apchamberl...@gmail.com wrote: I'm with Curt and Mao here. A for-profit insurance company is by definition broken from the policyholder's point of view. Its first responsibility is to its bondholders, its second to its shareholders, then (a distant third) to policyholders. Profit comes from paying out less in claims than comes in by premiums. Ipso facto, many claims must be denied, but choosing which to deny on the claims' merits requires significant overhead in the form of adjusters and support personnel. And how will your non-profit insurance company identify the flood of fraudulent claims that will pour in with its we pay all claims, no questions asked mode of operation? Allan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] sing it again, Sam
Blue Cross/Blue Shield Florida is also non-profit. No shareholders to pacify. $20M annual salary for the head. It does sort of help to understand 'non-profit' to mean 'after expenses'. Bill R -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Michael LaFleur Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2009 11:40 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] sing it again, Sam Our major insurance company here, Blue Cross/Blue Shield, is a non-profit. Mike LaFleur From: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com To: Diesel List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2009 9:48:04 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] sing it again, Sam Pretty obvious isn't it? Insurance companies should gladly pay out on every claim... I've been thinking that an not-for-profit ins co could do pretty well as its expenses would be so much lower and there wouldn't be the drive to provide profit to the investors. The problem is where does the seed money to get started come from? -Curt Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2009 23:41:48 EDT From: relng...@aol.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] sing it again, Sam To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: c5d.592c4e79.37e9a...@aol.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 ...Insurance is a racket, you know.? It is an organization that makes it look like it is helping, but only skrews with anyone, and everyone. They take, take, take premiums in the guise that someday something *might* happen and then they run and hide when it does happen Since you have been preaching this sermon for MANY months now, how about telling how you came to this conclusion. H? RLE -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090922/1a 1c6788/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090922/dd 1e82a4/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Car collection
Owners with more money to waste than taste. Wilton - Original Message - From: Alex Chamberlain apchamberl...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2009 12:01 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Car collection On Tue, Sep 22, 2009 at 8:50 AM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: andrew strasfogel wrote: http://www.59ford.com/carfriends/themountaintop.html What's with that Edsel? It's rear bumper extension is so broad could be used as a picnic table! Looks like it's one of many on that page. They all look modified, either for tailgate party tables or platforms to ride on in parades. I hate those Continental kit things with a passion. I agree that the Edsel one on that page is the ugliest of uglies. I'm greatly relieved to find that Googling Mercedes continental kit turns up nothing relevant, although here's something from the results guaranteed to chill the blood: http://blog.cardomain.com/2008/06/24/k-car-with-a-co/ Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Fwd: ************ Mercedes Benz 500 by the ESTATE ************************* - $1250 (IN STORAGE NEEDS TO BE DRIVEN AWAY SOON )
Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2009 10:52:15 -0700 (PDT) From: fred.s...@yahoo.com Subject: Mercedes Benz 500 by the ESTATE * - $1250 (IN STORAGE NEEDS TO BE DRIVEN AWAY SOON ) X-Originating-IP: [208.82.236.171] To: fred.s...@verizon.net X-Mailer: MIME::Lite 3.01 (F2.74; A1.74; B3.07; Q3.07) X-Antivirus: AVG for E-mail 8.5.416 [270.13.112/2388] X-Antispam: NO; Spamcatcher 5.2.1. Score 1 fred.s...@yahoo.com has forwarded you this craigslist.org posting. Please see below for more information. Visit the posting at http://nh.craigslist.org/cto/1386705781.htmlhttp://nh.craigslist.org/cto/1386705781.html to contact the person who posted this. -- Mercedes Benz 500 by the ESTATE * Date: 2009-09-22, 11:10AM miles-180k gasoline engine model 500 sel Starts, runs and drives excellent Being sold to settle an estate.. I can send more pics, but I have priced it well below to eliminate any hesitation you may have. Our Storage is coming due and must go fast. It will soon be a classic as it is already 25 yo. * Location: IN STORAGE NEEDS TO BE DRIVEN AWAY SOON * it's NOT ok to contact this poster with services or other commercial interests Original URL: http://nh.craigslist.org/cto/1386705781.htmlhttp://nh.craigslist.org/cto/1386705781.html -- this craigslist posting was forwarded to you by someone using our email-a-friend feature - if you want to prevent these, please go to: http://www.craigslist.org/cgi-bin/te/lJnZz5CZyFGdlZHQ6lmcu42b0VmbGhttp://www.craigslist.org/cgi-bin/te/lJnZz5CZyFGdlZHQ6lmcu42b0VmbG -- -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090922/0799d91a/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Fwd: mercedes benz (canton ny.)
Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2009 10:53:59 -0700 (PDT) From: fred.s...@yahoo.com Subject: mercedes benz (canton ny.) X-Originating-IP: [208.82.236.169] To: fred.s...@verizon.net X-Mailer: MIME::Lite 3.01 (F2.74; A1.74; B3.07; Q3.07) X-Antivirus: AVG for E-mail 8.5.416 [270.13.112/2388] X-Antispam: NO; Spamcatcher 5.2.1. Score 1 fred.s...@yahoo.com has forwarded you this craigslist.org posting. Please see below for more information. Visit the posting at http://watertown.craigslist.org/cto/1386431759.htmlhttp://watertown.craigslist.org/cto/1386431759.html to contact the person who posted this. -- mercedes benz Date: 2009-09-22, 6:56AM 1969 mercedes benz 220 desisel 4 cyl . 4 speed auto matic florida car good shpe make offer 315-386-4856 * Location: canton ny. * it's NOT ok to contact this poster with services or other commercial interests Original URL: http://watertown.craigslist.org/cto/1386431759.htmlhttp://watertown.craigslist.org/cto/1386431759.html -- this craigslist posting was forwarded to you by someone using our email-a-friend feature - if you want to prevent these, please go to: http://www.craigslist.org/cgi-bin/te/lJnZz5CZyFGdlZHQ6lmcu42b0VmbGhttp://www.craigslist.org/cgi-bin/te/lJnZz5CZyFGdlZHQ6lmcu42b0VmbG -- -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090922/a2317579/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Matt Cama family flooded out
Just read this post on the MBCA Forum, donations are being solicited. Very respectfully, /s/ LCDR Max Dillon '87 300TD 314k miles Charleston SC http://mbca.cartama.net/showthread.php?t=31651 Mathieu Cama has devoted a lot of time and effort to MBCA and to the Peachtree chapter. Over the last few months, his tech sessions at his business, Old World Automotive have shown strong member interest and participation. His enthusiasm for the marque has been evident to all who have met him, his expertise obvious to those who have been mentored by him for concours judging. Mathieu and Jennifer lost their house last Sunday night due to the severe flooding here in Georgia. To hear him describe the ordeal, they were lucky to escape with their lives as this occurred in the early morning hours. They also lost three cars including Mathieu's pagoda. While they are insured (including flood insurance), there are some things that insurance will not replace. Many of you have known Mathieu over the years based on his numerous contributions to this forum. I first met Mathieu in June of this year. New Peachtree member Kurt Schindler had proposed a tech session using Mathieu's shop Old World Automotive. I checked out his website and found that he had a Mercedes car transporter for sale. I went over to meet him and ultimately bought the car transporter. More importantly, we talked about the Peachtree chapter and he expressed his willingness to sponsor and promote monthly tech sessions. I didn't know it at the time, but Mathieu had also been very active in the MBCA on-line forums. The article in the current issue of the Star Buyer's Guide: The 107 Panzerwagen, was mistakenly credited to Pierre Hendry but actually written by Mathieu as pointed out in the Star on-line forum. The Peachtree Chapter of MBCA has established the Cama Flood Relief Fund. We are solicting all MBCA members for contributions. Please send your contribution to our treasurer Dan Marlowe, 1310 Cronic Town Road, Auburn, GA. 30011. Checks should be made out to Peachtree Chapter MBCA and earmarked for the Cama Flood Relief Fund. Your generous contribution will be most appreciated. My wife Ruth and I will start with a contribution of $50. Regards, __ John Herzler General Manager R.S. Motorwerks Atlanta, Georgia -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090922/1ae0f1ac/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Matt Cama family flooded out
Was ist ein Panzerwagen? Haben Sie ein photo? Wilton - Original Message - From: Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC,53310 meade.m.dil...@navy.mil To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2009 2:36 PM Subject: [MBZ] Matt Cama family flooded out Just read this post on the MBCA Forum, donations are being solicited. Very respectfully, /s/ LCDR Max Dillon '87 300TD 314k miles Charleston SC http://mbca.cartama.net/showthread.php?t=31651 Mathieu Cama has devoted a lot of time and effort to MBCA and to the Peachtree chapter. Over the last few months, his tech sessions at his business, Old World Automotive have shown strong member interest and participation. His enthusiasm for the marque has been evident to all who have met him, his expertise obvious to those who have been mentored by him for concours judging. Mathieu and Jennifer lost their house last Sunday night due to the severe flooding here in Georgia. To hear him describe the ordeal, they were lucky to escape with their lives as this occurred in the early morning hours. They also lost three cars including Mathieu's pagoda. While they are insured (including flood insurance), there are some things that insurance will not replace. Many of you have known Mathieu over the years based on his numerous contributions to this forum. I first met Mathieu in June of this year. New Peachtree member Kurt Schindler had proposed a tech session using Mathieu's shop Old World Automotive. I checked out his website and found that he had a Mercedes car transporter for sale. I went over to meet him and ultimately bought the car transporter. More importantly, we talked about the Peachtree chapter and he expressed his willingness to sponsor and promote monthly tech sessions. I didn't know it at the time, but Mathieu had also been very active in the MBCA on-line forums. The article in the current issue of the Star Buyer's Guide: The 107 Panzerwagen, was mistakenly credited to Pierre Hendry but actually written by Mathieu as pointed out in the Star on-line forum. The Peachtree Chapter of MBCA has established the Cama Flood Relief Fund. We are solicting all MBCA members for contributions. Please send your contribution to our treasurer Dan Marlowe, 1310 Cronic Town Road, Auburn, GA. 30011. Checks should be made out to Peachtree Chapter MBCA and earmarked for the Cama Flood Relief Fund. Your generous contribution will be most appreciated. My wife Ruth and I will start with a contribution of $50. Regards, __ John Herzler General Manager R.S. Motorwerks Atlanta, Georgia -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090922/1ae0f1ac/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Fwd: ************ Mercedes Benz 500 by the ESTATE ************************* - $1250 (IN STORAGE NEEDS TO BE DRIVEN AWAY SOON )
Hm. Pretty crappy choice of photos even if he was in a rush. What about this car? I've always wanted an SDL but don't want to mess with rodbenders. So maybe an SEL? I guess this one would be a gas guzzler Allan On Tue, 22 Sep 2009 13:55 -0400, Frederick W Moir fred.s...@verizon.net wrote: Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2009 10:52:15 -0700 (PDT) From: fred.s...@yahoo.com Subject: Mercedes Benz 500 by the ESTATE * - $1250 (IN STORAGE NEEDS TO BE DRIVEN AWAY SOON ) X-Originating-IP: [208.82.236.171] To: fred.s...@verizon.net X-Mailer: MIME::Lite 3.01 (F2.74; A1.74; B3.07; Q3.07) X-Antivirus: AVG for E-mail 8.5.416 [270.13.112/2388] X-Antispam: NO; Spamcatcher 5.2.1. Score 1 fred.s...@yahoo.com has forwarded you this craigslist.org posting. Please see below for more information. Visit the posting at http://nh.craigslist.org/cto/1386705781.htmlhttp://nh.craigslist.org/cto/1386705781.html to contact the person who posted this. -- Mercedes Benz 500 by the ESTATE * Date: 2009-09-22, 11:10AM miles-180k gasoline engine model 500 sel Starts, runs and drives excellent Being sold to settle an estate.. I can send more pics, but I have priced it well below to eliminate any hesitation you may have. Our Storage is coming due and must go fast. It will soon be a classic as it is already 25 yo. * Location: IN STORAGE NEEDS TO BE DRIVEN AWAY SOON * it's NOT ok to contact this poster with services or other commercial interests Original URL: http://nh.craigslist.org/cto/1386705781.htmlhttp://nh.craigslist.org/cto/1386705781.html -- this craigslist posting was forwarded to you by someone using our email-a-friend feature - if you want to prevent these, please go to: http://www.craigslist.org/cgi-bin/te/lJnZz5CZyFGdlZHQ6lmcu42b0VmbGhttp://www.craigslist.org/cgi-bin/te/lJnZz5CZyFGdlZHQ6lmcu42b0VmbG -- -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090922/0799d91a/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Matt Cama family flooded out
On Tue, Sep 22, 2009 at 12:04 PM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote: Was ist ein Panzerwagen? Haben Sie ein photo? Mercedes engineers' slang for the 107 series SL, due to the body's strength and rigidity. (This from Mercedes SL SLC by L.J.K. Setright, RIP). Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Car collection
I could just barf! On Tue, Sep 22, 2009 at 1:23 PM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote: Owners with more money to waste than taste. Wilton - Original Message - From: Alex Chamberlain apchamberl...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2009 12:01 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Car collection On Tue, Sep 22, 2009 at 8:50 AM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: andrew strasfogel wrote: http://www.59ford.com/carfriends/themountaintop.html What's with that Edsel? It's rear bumper extension is so broad could be used as a picnic table! Looks like it's one of many on that page. They all look modified, either for tailgate party tables or platforms to ride on in parades. I hate those Continental kit things with a passion. I agree that the Edsel one on that page is the ugliest of uglies. I'm greatly relieved to find that Googling Mercedes continental kit turns up nothing relevant, although here's something from the results guaranteed to chill the blood: http://blog.cardomain.com/2008/06/24/k-car-with-a-co/ Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090922/a9ef3696/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Matt Cama family flooded out
I would love to donate. I wonder if there's a way to do this through Paypal. On Tue, Sep 22, 2009 at 3:26 PM, Alex Chamberlain apchamberl...@gmail.comwrote: On Tue, Sep 22, 2009 at 12:04 PM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote: Was ist ein Panzerwagen? Haben Sie ein photo? Mercedes engineers' slang for the 107 series SL, due to the body's strength and rigidity. (This from Mercedes SL SLC by L.J.K. Setright, RIP). Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090922/bd88d517/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Car collection
Gee, I thought they all looked pretty nice. A good representation of an era now gone. I can't say I particularly want any of them but I do enjoy looking at things like this at car shows. I never cease to be amazed at the effort that some folks put into these old cars. I would much rather see something like this than some of the later muscle cars. I don't care if I ever see another big block Camaro. They have become a dime a dozen. Randy -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com]on Behalf Of andrew strasfogel Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2009 2:29 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Car collection I could just barf! On Tue, Sep 22, 2009 at 1:23 PM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote: Owners with more money to waste than taste. Wilton - Original Message - From: Alex Chamberlain apchamberl...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2009 12:01 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Car collection On Tue, Sep 22, 2009 at 8:50 AM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: andrew strasfogel wrote: http://www.59ford.com/carfriends/themountaintop.html What's with that Edsel? It's rear bumper extension is so broad could be used as a picnic table! Looks like it's one of many on that page. They all look modified, either for tailgate party tables or platforms to ride on in parades. I hate those Continental kit things with a passion. I agree that the Edsel one on that page is the ugliest of uglies. I'm greatly relieved to find that Googling Mercedes continental kit turns up nothing relevant, although here's something from the results guaranteed to chill the blood: http://blog.cardomain.com/2008/06/24/k-car-with-a-co/ Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090922/a9ef3696/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Car collection
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. People spend silly amounts of time and money restoring things like pontons too and I can't say I understand why. It really is a good thing we are not all the same. If we were, there would be even fewer decent old MB's because everyone would want one. Randy -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com]on Behalf Of WILTON Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2009 11:23 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Car collection Owners with more money to waste than taste. Wilton - Original Message - From: Alex Chamberlain apchamberl...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2009 12:01 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Car collection On Tue, Sep 22, 2009 at 8:50 AM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: andrew strasfogel wrote: http://www.59ford.com/carfriends/themountaintop.html What's with that Edsel? It's rear bumper extension is so broad could be used as a picnic table! Looks like it's one of many on that page. They all look modified, either for tailgate party tables or platforms to ride on in parades. I hate those Continental kit things with a passion. I agree that the Edsel one on that page is the ugliest of uglies. I'm greatly relieved to find that Googling Mercedes continental kit turns up nothing relevant, although here's something from the results guaranteed to chill the blood: http://blog.cardomain.com/2008/06/24/k-car-with-a-co/ Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Matt Cama family flooded out
'Thought it may be something like that. BTW, what did they call that open, military VW during WW II? Ich vergessen. ;) Wilton - Original Message - From: Alex Chamberlain apchamberl...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2009 3:26 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Matt Cama family flooded out On Tue, Sep 22, 2009 at 12:04 PM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote: Was ist ein Panzerwagen? Haben Sie ein photo? Mercedes engineers' slang for the 107 series SL, due to the body's strength and rigidity. (This from Mercedes SL SLC by L.J.K. Setright, RIP). Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] 1965 190D Craigslist $500
I'd buy this if I didn't think I was going to get let go tomorrow. (and my wife wasn't going to kill me) http://detroit.craigslist.org/mcb/cto/1386869888.html It look pretty good. Save it, don't let it go to parts! Mike LaFleur -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090922/4ef5cfc3/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] sing it again, Sam
Lowered administrative costs based on a simplified management structure and more importantly not having a ton of people whos whole job is to deny claims... -Curt Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2009 09:55:54 -0400 From: Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu Subject: Re: [MBZ] sing it again, Sam To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: 1253627754.24172.1336050...@webmail.messagingengine.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Why would expenses be so much lower in a not-for-profit insurance company? On Tue, 22 Sep 2009 06:48 -0700, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: Pretty obvious isn't it? Insurance companies should gladly pay out on every claim... I've been thinking that an not-for-profit ins co could do pretty well as its expenses would be so much lower and there wouldn't be the drive to provide profit to the investors. The problem is where does the seed money to get started come from? -Curt -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090922/ef75d781/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Car collection
Randy, I was referring to the Wagoneer. On Tue, Sep 22, 2009 at 4:54 PM, R A Bennell b...@mts.net wrote: Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. People spend silly amounts of time and money restoring things like pontons too and I can't say I understand why. It really is a good thing we are not all the same. If we were, there would be even fewer decent old MB's because everyone would want one. Randy -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com]on Behalf Of WILTON Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2009 11:23 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Car collection Owners with more money to waste than taste. Wilton - Original Message - From: Alex Chamberlain apchamberl...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2009 12:01 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Car collection On Tue, Sep 22, 2009 at 8:50 AM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: andrew strasfogel wrote: http://www.59ford.com/carfriends/themountaintop.html What's with that Edsel? It's rear bumper extension is so broad could be used as a picnic table! Looks like it's one of many on that page. They all look modified, either for tailgate party tables or platforms to ride on in parades. I hate those Continental kit things with a passion. I agree that the Edsel one on that page is the ugliest of uglies. I'm greatly relieved to find that Googling Mercedes continental kit turns up nothing relevant, although here's something from the results guaranteed to chill the blood: http://blog.cardomain.com/2008/06/24/k-car-with-a-co/ Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090922/e393b362/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Car collection
OK, I don't recall seeing a Wagoneer? Randy -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com]on Behalf Of andrew strasfogel Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2009 3:04 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Car collection Randy, I was referring to the Wagoneer. On Tue, Sep 22, 2009 at 4:54 PM, R A Bennell b...@mts.net wrote: Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. People spend silly amounts of time and money restoring things like pontons too and I can't say I understand why. It really is a good thing we are not all the same. If we were, there would be even fewer decent old MB's because everyone would want one. Randy -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com]on Behalf Of WILTON Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2009 11:23 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Car collection Owners with more money to waste than taste. Wilton - Original Message - From: Alex Chamberlain apchamberl...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2009 12:01 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Car collection On Tue, Sep 22, 2009 at 8:50 AM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: andrew strasfogel wrote: http://www.59ford.com/carfriends/themountaintop.html What's with that Edsel? It's rear bumper extension is so broad could be used as a picnic table! Looks like it's one of many on that page. They all look modified, either for tailgate party tables or platforms to ride on in parades. I hate those Continental kit things with a passion. I agree that the Edsel one on that page is the ugliest of uglies. I'm greatly relieved to find that Googling Mercedes continental kit turns up nothing relevant, although here's something from the results guaranteed to chill the blood: http://blog.cardomain.com/2008/06/24/k-car-with-a-co/ Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090922/e393b362/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Car collection
I enjoying going to show or cruises and looking at all the cars. I wouldn't want to own them all, but there are few cars I wouldn't accept a ride in. I'm not a big fan of the 50s, but they represented the time well, as do all cars, and I think that's part of their charm. They're kind of rolling time capsules. I'm glad when any car is restored, preserved, and continued to be shared with the generations that weren't around when they were the norm on the roads. Ed 300E 2009/9/22 R A Bennell b...@mts.net Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. People spend silly amounts of time and money restoring things like pontons too and I can't say I understand why. It really is a good thing we are not all the same. If we were, there would be even fewer decent old MB's because everyone would want one. Randy -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com]on Behalf Of WILTON Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2009 11:23 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Car collection Owners with more money to waste than taste. Wilton - Original Message - From: Alex Chamberlain apchamberl...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2009 12:01 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Car collection On Tue, Sep 22, 2009 at 8:50 AM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: andrew strasfogel wrote: http://www.59ford.com/carfriends/themountaintop.html What's with that Edsel? It's rear bumper extension is so broad could be used as a picnic table! Looks like it's one of many on that page. They all look modified, either for tailgate party tables or platforms to ride on in parades. I hate those Continental kit things with a passion. I agree that the Edsel one on that page is the ugliest of uglies. I'm greatly relieved to find that Googling Mercedes continental kit turns up nothing relevant, although here's something from the results guaranteed to chill the blood: http://blog.cardomain.com/2008/06/24/k-car-with-a-co/ Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090922/e4a81830/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Matt Cama family flooded out
WILTON wrote: 'Thought it may be something like that. BTW, what did they call that open, military VW during WW II? Ich vergessen. ;) Kübelwagen? Kübelsitzwagen? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] OT continental kits
There is a blue Ford Galaxy convertible that shows up at most of the old car gatherings around here, with a contintal kit that is quite nicely done up. It has air brushed art on the spare tire cover that looks like the solar system or such, and says Cruisin in my Galaxy A bit corny perhaps but nicely done. The car would be early 60's with the big round single tail lights and is a very nice deep blue. Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Car collection
I agree. The little Hondas with the loud exhausts and low profile tires are not my cup of tea but it is another generation of car nuts doing their thing and as such a good thing. Same as the old geezers working on their 50s cars - pretty cool but I just don't have the time to get too into that sort of thing. I admire their tenacity etc. Randy -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com]on Behalf Of E M Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2009 3:28 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Car collection I enjoying going to show or cruises and looking at all the cars. I wouldn't want to own them all, but there are few cars I wouldn't accept a ride in. I'm not a big fan of the 50s, but they represented the time well, as do all cars, and I think that's part of their charm. They're kind of rolling time capsules. I'm glad when any car is restored, preserved, and continued to be shared with the generations that weren't around when they were the norm on the roads. Ed 300E 2009/9/22 R A Bennell b...@mts.net Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. People spend silly amounts of time and money restoring things like pontons too and I can't say I understand why. It really is a good thing we are not all the same. If we were, there would be even fewer decent old MB's because everyone would want one. Randy -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com]on Behalf Of WILTON Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2009 11:23 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Car collection Owners with more money to waste than taste. Wilton - Original Message - From: Alex Chamberlain apchamberl...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2009 12:01 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Car collection On Tue, Sep 22, 2009 at 8:50 AM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: andrew strasfogel wrote: http://www.59ford.com/carfriends/themountaintop.html What's with that Edsel? It's rear bumper extension is so broad could be used as a picnic table! Looks like it's one of many on that page. They all look modified, either for tailgate party tables or platforms to ride on in parades. I hate those Continental kit things with a passion. I agree that the Edsel one on that page is the ugliest of uglies. I'm greatly relieved to find that Googling Mercedes continental kit turns up nothing relevant, although here's something from the results guaranteed to chill the blood: http://blog.cardomain.com/2008/06/24/k-car-with-a-co/ Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090922/e4a81830/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Matt Cama family flooded out
On Tue, Sep 22, 2009 at 2:31 PM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: WILTON wrote: 'Thought it may be something like that. BTW, what did they call that open, military VW during WW II? Ich vergessen. ;) Kübelwagen? Kübelsitzwagen? Some nice pictures of both the Kübelwagen and the Thing for comparison near the bottom of this page: http://www.pbase.com/otzi/automobiles_part_ii Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Fwd: ************ Mercedes Benz 500 by the ESTATE ************************* - $1250 (IN STORAGE NEEDS TO BE DRIVEN AWAY SOON )
You could get a 300SDL in that year/model which would be a non rod bender 603. (just a head cracker). On Tue, Sep 22, 2009 at 12:11 PM, Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu wrote: Hm. Pretty crappy choice of photos even if he was in a rush. What about this car? I've always wanted an SDL but don't want to mess with rodbenders. So maybe an SEL? I guess this one would be a gas guzzler Allan On Tue, 22 Sep 2009 13:55 -0400, Frederick W Moir fred.s...@verizon.net wrote: Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2009 10:52:15 -0700 (PDT) From: fred.s...@yahoo.com Subject: Mercedes Benz 500 by the ESTATE * - $1250 (IN STORAGE NEEDS TO BE DRIVEN AWAY SOON ) X-Originating-IP: [208.82.236.171] To: fred.s...@verizon.net X-Mailer: MIME::Lite 3.01 (F2.74; A1.74; B3.07; Q3.07) X-Antivirus: AVG for E-mail 8.5.416 [270.13.112/2388] X-Antispam: NO; Spamcatcher 5.2.1. Score 1 fred.s...@yahoo.com has forwarded you this craigslist.org posting. Please see below for more information. Visit the posting at http://nh.craigslist.org/cto/1386705781.htmlhttp://nh.craigslist.org/cto/1386705781.html to contact the person who posted this. -- Mercedes Benz 500 by the ESTATE * Date: 2009-09-22, 11:10AM miles-180k gasoline engine model 500 sel Starts, runs and drives excellent Being sold to settle an estate.. I can send more pics, but I have priced it well below to eliminate any hesitation you may have. Our Storage is coming due and must go fast. It will soon be a classic as it is already 25 yo. * Location: IN STORAGE NEEDS TO BE DRIVEN AWAY SOON * it's NOT ok to contact this poster with services or other commercial interests Original URL: http://nh.craigslist.org/cto/1386705781.htmlhttp://nh.craigslist.org/cto/1386705781.html -- this craigslist posting was forwarded to you by someone using our email-a-friend feature - if you want to prevent these, please go to: http://www.craigslist.org/cgi-bin/te/lJnZz5CZyFGdlZHQ6lmcu42b0VmbGhttp://www.craigslist.org/cgi-bin/te/lJnZz5CZyFGdlZHQ6lmcu42b0VmbG -- -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090922/0799d91a/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] sing it again, Sam
On Tue, Sep 22, 2009 at 9:43 AM, Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu wrote: On Tue, 22 Sep 2009 08:31 -0700, Alex Chamberlain apchamberl...@gmail.com wrote: I'm with Curt and Mao here. A for-profit insurance company is by definition broken from the policyholder's point of view. Its first responsibility is to its bondholders, its second to its shareholders, then (a distant third) to policyholders. Profit comes from paying out less in claims than comes in by premiums. Ipso facto, many claims must be denied, but choosing which to deny on the claims' merits requires significant overhead in the form of adjusters and support personnel. And how will your non-profit insurance company identify the flood of fraudulent claims that will pour in with its we pay all claims, no questions asked mode of operation? I don't imagine that a nonprofit insurance company could do without adjusters entirely and pay all claims without argument---human nature being what it is, that way leads pretty inevitably to the Tragedy of the Commons. But, as Curt says, if the money now earmarked for shareholder profit were instead spent on evaluating claims (rather than the current system where, as I said, there is a disincentive for the company to evaluate claims fairly and an incentive to pay them arbitrarily as long as they do not total more than premium income plus overhead), the proposed nonprofit could operate in a way that was much more fair and helpful to its policyholders---i.e., more valid claims would get paid, and fewer invalid ones. I'm thinking of car insurance here, where there are no nonprofits, as far as I know. As someone pointed out, there are lots of nonprofit health insurance providers, but health insurance, of course, is a lot more complicated. Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Knock slosh
lines are new and dry. The leak is at the junction, no fluid above there leaking down. I have made sure the hard lines are tight to torque. Did a almost there, loosen, take it to torque, back off, to torque again procedure. No leaks out the tops. If the heat shields need to come out every time the injectors come out, I will order some and get the leak in the body dealt with too. Will I need to redo the calibration for pop? clay On Sep 21, 2009, at 6:07 PM, Peter Frederick wrote: You really should replace the heat shields. They also seal the injector to the pre-chamber, and if they leak, you get low compression and pretty serious injector knock. You will get air bubbling up around the injector threads if they are bad. If the bodies are leaking, make SURE there is no lint or anything on the sealing surfaces before you torque them down again. Even a trace of shop cloth lint will make them leak, and that also means they open late from low pressure, and it will knock like crazy. Verify that it's the actual injector leaking, and not the overflow lines, too. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Fwd: ************ Mercedes Benz 500 by the ESTATE ************************* - $1250 (IN STORAGE NEEDS TO BE DRIVEN AWAY SOON )
On Tue, Sep 22, 2009 at 2:45 PM, John Freer mbfo...@gmail.com wrote: You could get a 300SDL in that year/model which would be a non rod bender 603. (just a head cracker). The car in the CL ad has to be an '84 if it's a NA-spec 500 and 25 years old. No long-wheelbase diesels in 1984, just 300SDs. Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Fwd: ************ Mercedes Benz 500 by the ESTATE ************************* - $1250 (IN STORAGE NEEDS TO BE DRIVEN AWAY SOON )
looks good for what I can see, but who knows. Frederick W Moir wrote: Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2009 10:52:15 -0700 (PDT) From: fred.s...@yahoo.com Subject: Mercedes Benz 500 by the ESTATE * - $1250 (IN STORAGE NEEDS TO BE DRIVEN AWAY SOON ) X-Originating-IP: [208.82.236.171] To: fred.s...@verizon.net X-Mailer: MIME::Lite 3.01 (F2.74; A1.74; B3.07; Q3.07) X-Antivirus: AVG for E-mail 8.5.416 [270.13.112/2388] X-Antispam: NO; Spamcatcher 5.2.1. Score 1 fred.s...@yahoo.com has forwarded you this craigslist.org posting. Please see below for more information. Visit the posting at http://nh.craigslist.org/cto/1386705781.htmlhttp://nh.craigslist.org/cto/1386705781.html to contact the person who posted this. -- Mercedes Benz 500 by the ESTATE * Date: 2009-09-22, 11:10AM miles-180k gasoline engine model 500 sel Starts, runs and drives excellent Being sold to settle an estate.. I can send more pics, but I have priced it well below to eliminate any hesitation you may have. Our Storage is coming due and must go fast. It will soon be a classic as it is already 25 yo. * Location: IN STORAGE NEEDS TO BE DRIVEN AWAY SOON * it's NOT ok to contact this poster with services or other commercial interests Original URL: http://nh.craigslist.org/cto/1386705781.htmlhttp://nh.craigslist.org/cto/1386705781.html -- this craigslist posting was forwarded to you by someone using our email-a-friend feature - if you want to prevent these, please go to: http://www.craigslist.org/cgi-bin/te/lJnZz5CZyFGdlZHQ6lmcu42b0VmbGhttp://www.craigslist.org/cgi-bin/te/lJnZz5CZyFGdlZHQ6lmcu42b0VmbG -- -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090922/0799d91a/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 95 E300, 92 500SEL, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 91 300E, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com -- next part -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.409 / Virus Database: 270.13.112/2389 - Release Date: 09/22/09 17:54:00 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Matt Cama family flooded out
Alex Chamberlain apchamberl...@gmail.com writes: Some nice pictures of both the Kübelwagen and the Thing for comparison near the bottom of this page: http://www.pbase.com/otzi/automobiles_part_ii From the site: Anyone who doesn't like a Corvette, is a Communist. LOL Allan -- 1983 300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] oil cooler repair
Mike, Checked the online EPC for your car (123.133) and that part (N 915013 013002 is the format that EPC looks for) is used at the oil filter end of the oil cooler line. It is number 146 in the attached picture. You could remove it from your oil filter assembly to see if it will do the trick and order/scrounge as you see fit. Max -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Michael Esh Sent: Monday, September 21, 2009 3:31 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: [MBZ] oil cooler repair Does anyone know if this part is available? MB Part # Description 915013-013002. I believe it is a repair nipple for an oil cooler with damaged threads. 1984 300D. Thanks, Mike ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: oil line screw fitting.pdf Type: application/octet-stream Size: 96468 bytes Desc: oil line screw fitting.pdf URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090922/bf0d4d09/attachment.obj ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Car collection
I'm with you, muscle cars hold very little appeal for me. Cars from the 50's I think are very cool... -Curt Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2009 15:52:57 -0500 From: R A Bennell b...@mts.net Subject: Re: [MBZ] Car collection To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: nhbblomcoljnegblbjcpkeconkaa@mts.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Gee, I thought they all looked pretty nice. A good representation of an era now gone. I can't say I particularly want any of them but I do enjoy looking at things like this at car shows. I never cease to be amazed at the effort that some folks put into these old cars. I would much rather see something like this than some of the later muscle cars. I don't care if I ever see another big block Camaro. They have become a dime a dozen. Randy -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090922/86be7452/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1965 190D Craigslist $500
HOLY COW! If that was near me I'd HAVE to buy it... Get one of those title companies to get a clean title and drive in CLASS... Bad news on the job, I've been there x2. Good time for it anyway with the extra 13 weeks of unemployment approved. I'm thinking I may have to quit my job, apparently the company is going to move as our landlord is bossing us around. New location will probably put another 10-20 minutes on my commute. I'm at an hour now and really don't want to go any more... -Curt Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2009 13:20:42 -0700 (PDT) From: Michael LaFleur mike.lafl...@sbcglobal.net Subject: [MBZ] 1965 190D Craigslist $500 To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: 181106.16082...@web81204.mail.mud.yahoo.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I'd buy this if I didn't think I was going to get let go tomorrow. (and my wife wasn't going to kill me) http://detroit.craigslist.org/mcb/cto/1386869888.html It look pretty good. Save it, don't let it go to parts! Mike LaFleur -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090922/4ef5cfc3/attachment.html -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090922/c2943640/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] ticketable
That's one (of many) problems I have with the way our president characterizes those without insurance. He claims those without insurance don't pay their bills - actually, there's a large part of the pop who don't have insurance who do pay their bills when they need care. Thomas Sowell wrote about having one of his children when he did not have insurance. It was too much to pay in one lump so he paid installments - his comment to his wife when the final payment was made was he's all ours now - we own him free and clear. or something very close to that. I remember as a child going to the doctor or dentist and my parents wrote a check for the bill - or part of it. I suspect a lot of those people who think they are healthy enough not to need insurance also pay their doctors bills. and some even have the foresight to buy catastrophic insurance should they be in the hospital for a week. So they are not technically insured, they are not part of the problem. There's also a lot of people who don't seem to get sick often. Anyway - Loren is right - if everyone paid their way here wouldn't be a problem. Have a nice day - LarryT OilAnalysis Time? Looking for Weber Parts or Porsche Posters? www.youroil.net -- From: Loren Faeth lfa...@leadingchange.com Sent: Monday, September 21, 2009 11:22 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] ticketable Amen, and this discussion would NOT come up if everyone paid their own bills, instead of expecting Nanny to do it for them. This country was created by REAL MEN and WOMEN, not the bunch of whining wimps that inhabit the country now. If YOU expect ME to pay YOUR bills, then I have a RIGHT to say Pull the plug! Or: DNR for Bikers with out helmets or drivers without seatbelts. Yes it is WRONG. But that is what happens when YOU expect ME to pay YOUR bills because you got the Gummit to steal my money That is WRONG, and it IS unconstitutional. At 09:43 PM 9/21/2009, you wrote: On Mon, 21 Sep 2009 10:19:47 -0700 (PDT) Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: Who exactly pulls the plug? Do we wheel Timmy up to you and you give thumbs up or thumbs down deciding if he lives or dies? In fact there probably should be a board of physicians someplace that does that very thing. It'd hurt like hell if you had a loved one who got the thumbs down but it'd be over... My wife's uncle is severely retarded mentally and physically and has been that way his whole life. He's been provided for his entire existence while providing nothing for the common good... 40 years ago this could have been headed off. With what? Assisted suicide? I think our nation's founders had a better idea: We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life ... Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Knock slosh
Calibration is set by internal shims, so it wills stay the same unless there is a huge chunk of crud. If you have the old style seals, they can be a real pain to remove. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] we pay, that's who pays
I don't know about the rest of ya'll but I was pretty healthy for many years. For an 11 year span I didn't miss work for health reasons. Then when I turned 50 or so things went to $hit real fast. I worked as a contract worked and bought my own insurance - never a problem with payment even though the anesthesiologist was charging $3k per month to fill my implanted med pump (which was another big gob of money to put in) - then I was hired direct and my health problems followed me to my new insurance - never any problem with payment here either. Then, I was laid off - found another job within 3 weeks and again - fully covered from day 1. Someone else on this list has the same disease (demylinating polyeuropathy) but his name escapes me at the moment. After 6 months there I couldn't do it anymore. I went on full disability and after some period of time Medicare kicked it. But I also bought the Cobra insurance when I stopped working and when my wife went to work I was again covered. Now, Medicare is secondary and Anthem is primary - through all of this, I've had numerous operations, constant pain meds, amputations of toes, a replacement knee and I hardly ever get asked for a co-pay! I don't know why people have so many complaints - I've been treated great IMO. It wasn't all that expensive either. Never more than $200/mo. Anyway, that's my story and I'm sticking to it! ;-) Maybe I;m just lucky? LarryT 91 300D OilAnalysis Time? Looking for Weber Parts or Porsche Posters? www.youroil.net -- From: Mountain Man maontin@gmail.com Sent: Monday, September 21, 2009 11:03 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] we pay, that's who pays Dan wrote: Just as some dillweed who makes a conscious choice to avoid the use of protective gear, I should have the choice as to whether or not I fund research that might keep him from being a drooling quadraplegic for the rest of his life after he gets road rash from a wreck on his bike. Insurance is a racket, you know. It is an organization that makes it look like it is helping, but only skrews with anyone, and everyone. They take, take, take premiums in the guise that someday something *might* happen and then they run and hide when it does happen. They make money for investors - they are not non-profit. Insco is a racket, and racketeering is illegal. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] we pay, that's who pays
Yeah, we'll call you Lucky now! --R LarryT wrote: I don't know about the rest of ya'll but I was pretty healthy for many years. For an 11 year span I didn't miss work for health reasons. Then when I turned 50 or so things went to $hit real fast. I worked as a contract worked and bought my own insurance - never a problem with payment even though the anesthesiologist was charging $3k per month to fill my implanted med pump (which was another big gob of money to put in) - then I was hired direct and my health problems followed me to my new insurance - never any problem with payment here either. Then, I was laid off - found another job within 3 weeks and again - fully covered from day 1. Someone else on this list has the same disease (demylinating polyeuropathy) but his name escapes me at the moment. After 6 months there I couldn't do it anymore. I went on full disability and after some period of time Medicare kicked it. But I also bought the Cobra insurance when I stopped working and when my wife went to work I was again covered. Now, Medicare is secondary and Anthem is primary - through all of this, I've had numerous operations, constant pain meds, amputations of toes, a replacement knee and I hardly ever get asked for a co-pay! I don't know why people have so many complaints - I've been treated great IMO. It wasn't all that expensive either. Never more than $200/mo. Anyway, that's my story and I'm sticking to it! ;-) Maybe I;m just lucky? LarryT 91 300D OilAnalysis Time? Looking for Weber Parts or Porsche Posters? www.youroil.net -- From: Mountain Man maontin@gmail.com Sent: Monday, September 21, 2009 11:03 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] we pay, that's who pays Dan wrote: Just as some dillweed who makes a conscious choice to avoid the use of protective gear, I should have the choice as to whether or not I fund research that might keep him from being a drooling quadraplegic for the rest of his life after he gets road rash from a wreck on his bike. Insurance is a racket, you know. It is an organization that makes it look like it is helping, but only skrews with anyone, and everyone. They take, take, take premiums in the guise that someday something *might* happen and then they run and hide when it does happen. They make money for investors - they are not non-profit. Insco is a racket, and racketeering is illegal. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] sing it again, Sam
You wrotefirst responsibility is to its bondholders, its second to its shareholders, then (a distant third) to policyholders Not necessarily, IMO. If the policyholders are treated poorly they will go elsewhere, if enough are treated poorly - and in your example I assume *all* would - pretty soon there wouldn't be many customers and the company would not have many (any?) investors (stockholders) leaving the bondholders holding the bag. If *any* company wants to be of value to their shareholders (who are the owners of the company) the company must be receptive to their customers. IMO , it doesn't matter if they are for profit or not. Actually the case could be made that a non-profit might treat customers worse. Capitalism *will* work, if the government do-gooders can stay out of it. The customer will drive the company toward excellence or they will go elsewhere. Same with shareholders - people w ho do their due diligence before buying stock will look at how customers are treated - because that's the only product the company can provide service. If a company has poor rating when dealing with the customer it will perform poorly - and the stock will also. Later - LarryT OilAnalysis Time? Looking for Weber Parts or Porsche Posters? www.youroil.net -- From: Alex Chamberlain apchamberl...@gmail.com Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2009 11:31 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] sing it again, Sam Mountain Man said: ...Insurance is a racket, you know.? It is an organization that makes it look like it is helping, but only skrews with anyone, and everyone. They take, take, take premiums in the guise that someday something *might* happen and then they run and hide when it does happen ...to which Roger said: Since you have been preaching this sermon for MANY months now, how about telling how you came to this conclusion. H? ...and Curt said: Pretty obvious isn't it? Insurance companies should gladly pay out on every claim... I'm with Curt and Mao here. A for-profit insurance company is by definition broken from the policyholder's point of view. Its first responsibility is to its bondholders, its second to its shareholders, then (a distant third) to policyholders. Profit comes from paying out less in claims than comes in by premiums. Ipso facto, many claims must be denied, but choosing which to deny on the claims' merits requires significant overhead in the form of adjusters and support personnel. Therefore the most efficient and most profitable way for an insurance company to operate is to pay out claims on a simple basis that does not require evaluating their merits, such as first-come-first-served. Effective for the shareholders, but manifestly unfair for the policyholders. Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] sing it again, Sam
LarryT wrote: You wrotefirst responsibility is to its bondholders, its second to its shareholders, then (a distant third) to policyholders Not necessarily, IMO. If the policyholders are treated poorly they will go elsewhere, if enough are treated poorly - That's the whole beauty of the scam - the enduser doesn't get to pick, or at best, gets to pick from two providers if he's employed by a state or federal agency or Fortune 100 corporation. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] sing it again, Sam
It'd be kind of a collective situation which I think is what was originally intended. Big companies do it... I wonder how much cash you'd need to get started. Couple million I suppose. -Curt Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2009 14:52:16 -0700 From: Alex Chamberlain apchamberl...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] sing it again, Sam To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: f7b6bd1a0909221452o371459d6t45683faf4a2e8...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Tue, Sep 22, 2009 at 9:43 AM, Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu wrote: On Tue, 22 Sep 2009 08:31 -0700, Alex Chamberlain apchamberl...@gmail.com wrote: I'm with Curt and Mao here. ?A for-profit insurance company is by definition broken from the policyholder's point of view. ?Its first responsibility is to its bondholders, its second to its shareholders, then (a distant third) to policyholders. ?Profit comes from paying out less in claims than comes in by premiums. ?Ipso facto, many claims must be denied, but choosing which to deny on the claims' merits requires significant overhead in the form of adjusters and support personnel. And how will your non-profit insurance company identify the flood of fraudulent claims that will pour in with its we pay all claims, no questions asked mode of operation? I don't imagine that a nonprofit insurance company could do without adjusters entirely and pay all claims without argument---human nature being what it is, that way leads pretty inevitably to the Tragedy of the Commons. But, as Curt says, if the money now earmarked for shareholder profit were instead spent on evaluating claims (rather than the current system where, as I said, there is a disincentive for the company to evaluate claims fairly and an incentive to pay them arbitrarily as long as they do not total more than premium income plus overhead), the proposed nonprofit could operate in a way that was much more fair and helpful to its policyholders---i.e., more valid claims would get paid, and fewer invalid ones. I'm thinking of car insurance here, where there are no nonprofits, as far as I know. As someone pointed out, there are lots of nonprofit health insurance providers, but health insurance, of course, is a lot more complicated. Alex -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090922/b36943af/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Injector return plug
Filled up Hammie the 240D for the third time in a week and a half today. 31 mpg, not too shabby. I noticed the other day the return line plug is leaking a little. I'd replaced all the other lines with viton from McMaster last fall. Can I pull the plug out of the little stub line and press it into a piece of viton or do I need to order a new line? I need to call Rusty for an order anyway... -Curt -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090922/0b95fa4f/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] we pay, that's who pays
'Tis I, Wilton, with CIDP (Chronic Inflammatory Demylinating Polyneuropathy); diagnosed 10 years ago. 'Been mighty lucky to have Medicare and Tricare For Life (military) for insurance. 'Been covered very well so far. Wilton - Original Message - From: LarryT l02tur...@comcast.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2009 8:25 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] we pay, that's who pays I don't know about the rest of ya'll but I was pretty healthy for many years. For an 11 year span I didn't miss work for health reasons. Then when I turned 50 or so things went to $hit real fast. I worked as a contract worked and bought my own insurance - never a problem with payment even though the anesthesiologist was charging $3k per month to fill my implanted med pump (which was another big gob of money to put in) - then I was hired direct and my health problems followed me to my new insurance - never any problem with payment here either. Then, I was laid off - found another job within 3 weeks and again - fully covered from day 1. Someone else on this list has the same disease (demylinating polyeuropathy) but his name escapes me at the moment. After 6 months there I couldn't do it anymore. I went on full disability and after some period of time Medicare kicked it. But I also bought the Cobra insurance when I stopped working and when my wife went to work I was again covered. Now, Medicare is secondary and Anthem is primary - through all of this, I've had numerous operations, constant pain meds, amputations of toes, a replacement knee and I hardly ever get asked for a co-pay! I don't know why people have so many complaints - I've been treated great IMO. It wasn't all that expensive either. Never more than $200/mo. Anyway, that's my story and I'm sticking to it! ;-) Maybe I;m just lucky? LarryT 91 300D OilAnalysis Time? Looking for Weber Parts or Porsche Posters? www.youroil.net -- From: Mountain Man maontin@gmail.com Sent: Monday, September 21, 2009 11:03 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] we pay, that's who pays Dan wrote: Just as some dillweed who makes a conscious choice to avoid the use of protective gear, I should have the choice as to whether or not I fund research that might keep him from being a drooling quadraplegic for the rest of his life after he gets road rash from a wreck on his bike. Insurance is a racket, you know. It is an organization that makes it look like it is helping, but only skrews with anyone, and everyone. They take, take, take premiums in the guise that someday something *might* happen and then they run and hide when it does happen. They make money for investors - they are not non-profit. Insco is a racket, and racketeering is illegal. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Injector return plug
If MB and the rest of us can make that little stub line by putting the plug into a short piece of the regular fuel return line, why couldn't you do the same with a short piece of viton? If the viton is firm enough to hold itself onto the little injector nipples, I certainly think it'd be tough enough to hold the plug. ;))) Wilton - Original Message - From: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com To: Diesel List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2009 8:46 PM Subject: [MBZ] Injector return plug Filled up Hammie the 240D for the third time in a week and a half today. 31 mpg, not too shabby. I noticed the other day the return line plug is leaking a little. I'd replaced all the other lines with viton from McMaster last fall. Can I pull the plug out of the little stub line and press it into a piece of viton or do I need to order a new line? I need to call Rusty for an order anyway... -Curt -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090922/0b95fa4f/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] we pay, that's who pays
You are indeed VERY lucky -- so am I, in that I've never gotten stuck with a huge bill, but then I've been very healthy. Not every one is, though, and larger and larger numbers of people are going without decent insurance since it costs one of two paychecks per month for some of the guys I work with. I did have quite a hassle the last two years with Anthem Blue Cross deciding, after I had already arranged it, that they were NOT responsible for the costs of my surgery after the car accident when the auto insurance ran out. Got it fixed, but it took six months and I should never have had to mess around with it at all. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] 10 Ugliest Cars
Not sure I agree with all of the choices, but... http://www.oddee.com/item_96780.aspx Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] So, Kaleb - when ya gonna approve my post with picture
Picture of training exercise for airbus crewes? Has anyone else seen that picture? - funny, I thought. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] So, Kaleb - when ya gonna approve my post with picture
It was approved long ago Mountain Man wrote: Picture of training exercise for airbus crewes? Has anyone else seen that picture? - funny, I thought. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.409 / Virus Database: 270.13.112/2389 - Release Date: 09/22/09 17:54:00 -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 95 E300, 92 500SEL, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 91 300E, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090922/0475b3ef/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] sing it again, Sam
RLE wrote: Since you have been preaching this sermon for MANY months now, how about telling how you came to this conclusion. H? The concept of insco is based in fraud. Get plenty of people paying premiums for miniscule events that rarely payout, payout a few, keep the change. Read the hedlines - medicare is bankrupt in 7 years - same scheme. The issue that the prez has taken on has to do with prices, not care. The care facilities and personnel and equipment here are the best per capita in the world, or close - I would suspect. The issue is cost. And, cost is driven by the ability to get payment - from a large pool - insco. Think AIG - yeah, they did good, eh? Fraud in the headlines - and you want someone to explain this to you? Read it, think about it, don't try to defend it - and the concept falls into your lap. I mean, if you rely on insco somehow - you defend it, and many persons defend insco. I have no reason to think they will skrew me if I have a large claim, but the concept is just wrong. There is not enough premium money being gathered to cover the uneventual for each rate payer, pure and simple. Meanwhile, the insco execs run around the rich of the world - read AIG, again. etc. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1965 190D Craigslist $500
Curt wrote: I'm thinking I may have to quit my job... Stop talking this way, guys. I have been nursing my secret fear for months - who is building any new strip malls? - nobody. From day to day I have some work to do, but it is really getting thin. I am the next junior guy there, which means I am the next out the door. I really don't care. No savings, no useable skill - I should start the 6-foot hole soon, as the cold weather just makes it harder to dig. Really. Plus, given my principles, I ain't goin' to mama state to give me dollars for food aka unemployment. It'll happen - it has for many many generations, but it really does start to get to ya when ya hear this stuff - you guys are the 3rd time today I've heard the talk - not good. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 10 Ugliest Cars
I don't think the corvair or pacer are ugly. What about that Lexus convertible thing. That is one UGLY car. --- On Tue, 9/22/09, LWB250 lwb...@yahoo.com wrote: From: LWB250 lwb...@yahoo.com Subject: [MBZ] 10 Ugliest Cars To: Banned ban...@okiebenz.com, Okie Benz mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Tuesday, September 22, 2009, 9:02 PM Not sure I agree with all of the choices, but... http://www.oddee.com/item_96780.aspx Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090922/afef4c0b/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] we pay, that's who pays
Something is wrong with our indoctrinated concepts of insco and payments. As --R mentions - they bet on no failure, you know better. Then when failure comes, we are thankful for... failure? so they can pay out? I mean, what did pa do out on the prairie 100 years ago when failure happened? Yep, another hole in the ground. The concept of insco being available for catastrophe for each of us is untenable. Realize that you guys with these big payouts are literally lucky - and we are paying your bills - literally. Sounds fine - no complaint from me - but there still is something wrong with our outlook and expectation regarding insco. I deteriorate daily but in no way expect any payout from insco. In my entire life I have probably visited a doctor for myself probably no more than 30 times total. I don't do doctors and don't expect to do them ever. I am training my heart/mind to just take what deterioration happens and live with it and then be done. That is not a common mind, I realize, and I think it somewhat expresses my complaint that our attitude about insco is wrong somewhere. Hence, I detest insco, I advocate the annihilation of insco. How? - dunno. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] water VW
I think that would be the Schwimmwagen Type 166. RLE -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090922/7b4994b1/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Injector return plug
Can I pull the plug out of the little stub line and press it into Yes. That's what you're supposed to do. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Matt Cama family flooded out
BTW, what did they call that open, military VW during WW II? The Thing? Well, looks like it oughta be! Ich vergessen. ;) I also forget, but wouldn't that be Ich vergesse? -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Matt Cama family flooded out
Ja, obviously, ich vergesse, that, too, but that's still pretty good for having been 55 years since studying it and extremely seldom using it. Danke for reminder. Wilton - Original Message - From: Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2009 10:02 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Matt Cama family flooded out BTW, what did they call that open, military VW during WW II? The Thing? Well, looks like it oughta be! Ich vergessen. ;) I also forget, but wouldn't that be Ich vergesse? -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Matt Cama family flooded out
not bad, Wilton. I thought my 35 years was a long time... Bob R On Tue, Sep 22, 2009 at 7:11 PM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote: Ja, obviously, ich vergesse, that, too, but that's still pretty good for having been 55 years since studying it and extremely seldom using it. Danke for reminder. Wilton - Original Message - From: Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2009 10:02 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Matt Cama family flooded out BTW, what did they call that open, military VW during WW II? The Thing? Well, looks like it oughta be! Ich vergessen. ;) I also forget, but wouldn't that be Ich vergesse? -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090922/55b84892/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Is that roof like...
A big weird-shaped thing that hinges on one side and has a stick to prop it up? http://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/1387096798.html --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Injector return plug
On Tue, Sep 22, 2009 at 7:01 PM, Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net wrote: Can I pull the plug out of the little stub line and press it into Yes. That's what you're supposed to do. -- Jim And if the plug doesn't want to come out, there's no harm in taking a short length of line and making your own plug for it out of whatever cylindrical diesel-resistant material is handy and fits tight---the shank of a large nail, for instance. That's what I did when I replaced my lines with Viton. Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1965 190D Craigslist $500
On Tue, Sep 22, 2009 at 6:32 PM, Mountain Man maontin@gmail.com wrote: Curt wrote: I'm thinking I may have to quit my job... Stop talking this way, guys. I have been nursing my secret fear for months - who is building any new strip malls? - nobody. Ha ha ha! No shortage of new strip malls out where I live (semi-rural outskirts of Portland, OR), and we have some of the most restrictive land-use laws in the country. There must be plenty more in sprawlier places like, say, Phoenix or Dallas. I think your job is safe. :) Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Is that roof like...
On Tue, Sep 22, 2009 at 7:47 PM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: http://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/1387096798.html I know it's built on a stretched ML platform or something like that, but the R-class still looks like a Grand Caravan with a Mercedes grille to me. Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 10 Ugliest Cars
On Tue, Sep 22, 2009 at 6:02 PM, LWB250 lwb...@yahoo.com wrote: Not sure I agree with all of the choices, but... http://www.oddee.com/item_96780.aspx First-generation Corvair??? And one of the reader contributions is the Saab 93??? Well! These are obviously people I can cross off my Christmas card list! ;) Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Biobor
Well, I see two biocides on the West site add I think they are both OK: Biobor JF Microbicide and BioGuard Fuel Microbiocide. They are both $23 to $25 a pint. The goal is to prevent the microbes from growing at the fuel-water interface. As I recall, the live bugs live in the water but the dead bugs get in the fuel and can goom up the injectors, etc. The fuel looks dark in color when this happens. -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Craig McCluskey Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2009 22:36 To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Biobor On Fri, 18 Sep 2009 22:18:10 -0400 Scott Ritchey ritche...@nc.rr.com wrote: My 82 300 SD gets little use these days so I keep a bottle of Biobor in the trunk and add the specified amount at every fillup. It doesn't take much so the bottle lasts a while. The plastic bottle has a gizmo that lets you squeeze the required amount into a small chamber to pour in the tank so it's pretty convenient. I generally get it from West Marine. I went to West Marine's website and found Biobor JF Fuel Anti-fungal listed on http://ecatalog.westmarine.com/full.asp?page=394 ($22.99/pint). Is this the right stuff? Marshall also said that one needed to disperse/get rid of water, but I don't recall him mentioning a product for that task. The same page lists ValvTect Marine Diesel Additive with BioGuard. Is this an appropriate thing to use in addition/instead of the Biobor JF? Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] sing it again, Sam
On Tue, Sep 22, 2009 at 5:36 PM, LarryT l02tur...@comcast.net wrote: You wrotefirst responsibility is to its bondholders, its second to its shareholders, then (a distant third) to policyholders If *any* company wants to be of value to their shareholders (who are the owners of the company) the company must be receptive to their customers. IMO , it doesn't matter if they are for profit or not. Actually the case could be made that a non-profit might treat customers worse. Capitalism *will* work, if the government do-gooders can stay out of it. The customer will drive the company toward excellence or they will go elsewhere. I'm a staunch defender of the free market, and perfectly happy to let it decide who gets what good and services, and at what prices, most of the time. It's a puzzle to me why a free-market approach to insurance has produced such a broken system. It seems like insurance is one of the few businesses, perhaps the only, where profit is made explicitly by *not* providing the customer the service for which he has contracted and paid. As you say, that should in theory put the company out of business in the long term as word gets around that they don't keep their word. But it doesn't seem to. Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
