Re: [MBZ] Heni's BDU's

2010-06-26 Thread Mitch Haley

Hendrik and Fay wrote:


who is in San Fran and looking forward to the Gay pride march on Sunday


The Folsom Street Fair in September could shock the kiddies and stunt their 
growth. Not sure if the March could do the same, or not.


A normal day on Folsom St:
http://articles.sfgate.com/2010-06-13/news/21908833_1_chronicle-exclusive-cultural-kaleidoscope

Folsom Street Fair:
http://myrobotispregnant.com/images_2/images/IMG0001_1.jpg

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Re: [MBZ] Heni's BDU's

2010-06-26 Thread LWB250
BTDT.  The best part of the parade is Dykes on Bikes, a huge group of dykes, 
many dressed outrageously, on Harleys.  I saw the parade back in the 90s and 
had my oldest son with me at the time.  I believe he was around 6 or 7.  He 
loved it.

Dad, why are the men dressed as women, and the women dressed as men?

Dan


--- On Sat, 6/26/10, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote:
From: Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Heni's BDU's
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Date: Saturday, June 26, 2010, 6:33 AM

Hendrik and Fay wrote:

 who is in San Fran and looking forward to the Gay pride march on Sunday

The Folsom Street Fair in September could shock the kiddies and stunt their 
growth. Not sure if the March could do the same, or not.

A normal day on Folsom St:
http://articles.sfgate.com/2010-06-13/news/21908833_1_chronicle-exclusive-cultural-kaleidoscope

Folsom Street Fair:
http://myrobotispregnant.com/images_2/images/IMG0001_1.jpg

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Re: [MBZ] OT external HDs ?? + bit of benz content.

2010-06-26 Thread John Reames
And vista can do NFS...

--
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Home: +14106646986
Mobile: +14437915905

On Jun 26, 2010, at 0:26, Fmiser fmi...@gmail.com wrote:

 archer wrote:
 
 I have a fairly new Macbook running OSX Snow Leopard and a PC
 running XP. Is there any way they can mirror each other?
 
 rant mode  
 Apple made the original PC.  PC = Personal Computer.  As opposed
 to a main frame or server.  And now the hardware isn't even
 really that different. So a new PC could be running Microsoft
 Windows, OSX, Linux, or BSD. 
 /rant mode
 
 Mirror...  So you want the same data available to both computers? 
 
 OSX runs samba, which is better for MS Windows network sharing
 than MS Windows.  Set it up so a directory (folder) on your OSX
 computer is shared via samba.  Set up the WinXP with map
 network drive to make that OSX shared folder show up as S:,
 or whatever.
 
 Or are you wanting an external drive to be able to move between
 the two computers and both access the same data?
 
 Or do you mean something else?
 
 
 I think the best option is to run a virtual machine with OSX as
 the host and Win XP as the guest.  Do what you must in MS Win,
 but all the rest of what needs to be done on a computer can be
 outside of MS world. 
 
 --Philip
 
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Re: [MBZ] OT external HDs ?? + bit of benz content.

2010-06-26 Thread Mitch Haley

John Reames wrote:

And vista can do NFS...


Does XP have any problems with NTFS?

I formated a drive (with Linux) in NTFS, and when I record TV in WinXP the 
recording stops at around 4GB. I never knew if it was a shortcoming of the OS or 
the PCTV software.


Mitch.

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[MBZ] It's always something...

2010-06-26 Thread Jim Cathey

Jill and Daniel took her 560SL to Wyoming for a mini-vacation, and on
her way back she called me from Missoula, three hours away from home.
The car wouldn't start, and the aftermarket alarm was honking away at
her.  I ran her through the basic diagnosis procedure with the lights,
neutral switch, etc., but didn't get good results.  (A lack of
calmness doesn't help.)  Then I had her get out the cheap Harbor
Freight multimeter I keep in the trunk, and the battery measured
around 10V.  Oops!  She called AAA to get a jump, and the guy
knew what to do.  He checked the battery voltage while it was running
and it was 13V or so, enough to prove that the alternator wasn't
totally dead.  She got home (carefully husbanding the battery charge)
without further incident, and I put the car on charge.  It was
thirsty, but not inordinately so.  It probably needs a new brush pack,
they usually get intermittent at their end-of-life.

-- Jim



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Re: [MBZ] OT external HDs ?? + bit of benz content.

2010-06-26 Thread Dieselhead
Probably a limitation of the software.  NTFS is the native file 
system for  winders 2000, XP and all later M$ OS.   I don't know of 
anything within NTFS that would limit the file size, unless a policy 
is set to limit user file space, but that should limit the overall 
file space, not per file allocation.





John Reames wrote:

And vista can do NFS...


Does XP have any problems with NTFS?

I formated a drive (with Linux) in NTFS, and when I record TV in 
WinXP the recording stops at around 4GB. I never knew if it was a 
shortcoming of the OS or the PCTV software.


Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] OT external HDs ?? + bit of benz content.

2010-06-26 Thread archer


- Original Message - 
From: Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net

To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Friday, June 25, 2010 4:11 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT external HDs ?? + bit of benz content.



archer wrote:

I have a fairly new Macbook running OSX Snow Leopard and a PC running
XP. Is there any way they can mirror each other?
Thanks,
Gerry


Hmmm network them and them map a backup to a network virtual drive on the 
other

computer?
___

Thanks, Mitch, I'll try it.
Gerry 



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Re: [MBZ] OT external HDs ?? + bit of benz content.

2010-06-26 Thread archer

archer wrote:
I have a fairly new Macbook running OSX Snow Leopard and a PC
running XP. Is there any way they can mirror each other?


rant mode
Apple made the original PC.  PC = Personal Computer.  As opposed
to a main frame or server.  And now the hardware isn't even
really that different. So a new PC could be running Microsoft
Windows, OSX, Linux, or BSD.
/rant mode


G:  Last I heard some time ago, Apple OS's didn't work too well on a 
non-Apple PC.  Maybe that's changed.


Mirror...  So you want the same data available to both computers?


G:  Yes.  Identical data on both hds.


OSX runs samba, which is better for MS Windows network sharing
than MS Windows.  Set it up so a directory (folder) on your OSX
computer is shared via samba.  Set up the WinXP with map
network drive to make that OSX shared folder show up as S:,
or whatever.

Or are you wanting an external drive to be able to move between
the two computers and both access the same data?


G:  No.  Want to avoid having external drive.


Or do you mean something else?

I think the best option is to run a virtual machine with OSX as
the host and Win XP as the guest.  Do what you must in MS Win,
but all the rest of what needs to be done on a computer can be
outside of MS world.

--Philip
___
I would like to mirror the hds in the two computers.  When something is 
added to the Apple hd it will also be added to the windows hd.  When 
something is added to the windows hd it will also be added to the Apple hd; 
i.e. each computer will be the backup for the other; just like in a server 
with mirrored hds.  If one hd self destructs all the data will be on the 
other hd.  The idea is to avoid having an external drive, cables, etc.


Gerry
'83 300D and 240D


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Re: [MBZ] OT external HDs ?? + bit of benz content.

2010-06-26 Thread Craig McCluskey
On Sat, 26 Jun 2010 09:06:01 -0400 Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote:

 John Reames wrote:
  And vista can do NFS...
 
 Does XP have any problems with NTFS?
 
 I formated a drive (with Linux) in NTFS, and when I record TV in WinXP
 the recording stops at around 4GB. I never knew if it was a shortcoming
 of the OS or the PCTV software.

I'm confused with what you're saying. NTFS is WinXP's preferred disk file
system. ext2/3 is Linux's most popular choice, though in recent years it
can also handle NTFS as well as reiser and a host of others.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] OT external HDs ?? + bit of benz content.

2010-06-26 Thread LWB250
Gerry,
I think you'll be hard pressed to fid a way to do this as you describe, without 
a lot of tinkering on the back ends of both OS'.
The simplest way, IMHO, is to go with NAS (network attached storage) such as a 
RAID or Drobo and just have separate partitions set up for each OS.  To mirror 
each machine at that point would be pretty simple.
Your reference to mirroring I suspect is relative to a RAID array, which 
would have to be unique for each OS, I believe.  Keep in mind that the only 
real redundant RAID setup is level 5 or above.  Levels 0, 1 and 2 won't give 
you the integrity you require.  You're talking about a fairly substantial 
undertaking, even with the price of storage these days.
Why exactly are you wanting to do this?  Maybe I missed this part of the 
thread, but I don't recall anyone asking.  If it's just to maintain data 
integrity and/or backups, you're overthinking this big time.
If data integrity/redundancy is all you're looking for, just buy a couple of 
NAS boxes that are set up for RAID 5.  Unless your PC has room for at least 
three drives, you're SOL there.  A Mac Pro is the only Apple machine that could 
do this.
Tell us more
Dan


--- On Sat, 6/26/10, archer arche...@embarqmail.com wrote:

 ___
I would like to mirror the hds in the two computers.  When something is 
added to the Apple hd it will also be added to the windows hd.  When 
something is added to the windows hd it will also be added to the Apple hd; 
i.e. each computer will be the backup for the other; just like in a server 
with mirrored hds.  If one hd self destructs all the data will be on the 
other hd.  The idea is to avoid having an external drive, cables, etc.

Gerry
'83 300D and 240D


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Re: [MBZ] OT external HDs ?? + bit of benz content.

2010-06-26 Thread Brian Toscano
RAID 1 is mirroring (redundant)

I've got about 5TB of disk space attached to my Mac for music, movies, etc.  
Currently I have 2x1.5TB drives striped into one logical drive of 3TB using 
Apple's Software RAID and a 2TB drive.  I have a second set of disks I keep for 
off-site backup.  Disk failure is just one way to lose data.  Fire, theft, etc. 
are some other ways!

Regards,
Brian Toscano
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Date: Sat, 26 Jun 2010 08:19:26 
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT external HDs ?? + bit of benz content.

Gerry,
I think you'll be hard pressed to fid a way to do this as you describe, without 
a lot of tinkering on the back ends of both OS'.
The simplest way, IMHO, is to go with NAS (network attached storage) such as a 
RAID or Drobo and just have separate partitions set up for each OS.  To mirror 
each machine at that point would be pretty simple.
Your reference to mirroring I suspect is relative to a RAID array, which 
would have to be unique for each OS, I believe.  Keep in mind that the only 
real redundant RAID setup is level 5 or above.  Levels 0, 1 and 2 won't give 
you the integrity you require.  You're talking about a fairly substantial 
undertaking, even with the price of storage these days.
Why exactly are you wanting to do this?  Maybe I missed this part of the 
thread, but I don't recall anyone asking.  If it's just to maintain data 
integrity and/or backups, you're overthinking this big time.
If data integrity/redundancy is all you're looking for, just buy a couple of 
NAS boxes that are set up for RAID 5.  Unless your PC has room for at least 
three drives, you're SOL there.  A Mac Pro is the only Apple machine that could 
do this.
Tell us more
Dan


--- On Sat, 6/26/10, archer arche...@embarqmail.com wrote:

 ___
I would like to mirror the hds in the two computers.  When something is 
added to the Apple hd it will also be added to the windows hd.  When 
something is added to the windows hd it will also be added to the Apple hd; 
i.e. each computer will be the backup for the other; just like in a server 
with mirrored hds.  If one hd self destructs all the data will be on the 
other hd.  The idea is to avoid having an external drive, cables, etc.

Gerry
'83 300D and 240D


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Re: [MBZ] No news from our OZ-friends lately...

2010-06-26 Thread Hendrik and Fay

That's because the government is covering it up.
All I know I looked out to my left and up in the sky was what looked like a 
plane
in the sky but it was silvery, I looked at the road to make sure I was still on
track and when I looked at the spot where that 'thing' was it was not there 
anymore.
Of course it could have have been a wheather balloon.

Hendrik
who now has a license to fly a UFO

On Thu Jun 24  6:36 , 'WILTON' wilt...@nc.rr.com sent:

BTW, I lived at Roswell 'bout 3 months in 1962.  'Never heard a word 'bout a 
UFO while there.  'Was probably in the hanger several times where the 
aliens and their ship were supposedly kept.

Wilton

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To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2010 1:25 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] No news from our OZ-friends lately...


 We saw it from the highway but it was on the other side of the road and we 
 could
 not be bothered to turn the bus around.

 Hendrik
 who is picky about road side attractions but saw a UFO near Roswell

 On Mon Jun 21  6:02 , Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net 
 sent:

Don't forget Cadillac Ranch!

--R



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Re: [MBZ] No news from our OZ-friends lately...

2010-06-26 Thread Rich Thomas
Speaking of gummint, your new PM, or whatever she is,  is kinda easy on 
the eyes.  Unlike our last female presidential candidate...


--R

On 6/26/2010 11:53 AM, Hendrik and Fay wrote:

That's because the government is covering it up.
All I know I looked out to my left and up in the sky was what looked like a 
plane
in the sky but it was silvery, I looked at the road to make sure I was still on
track and when I looked at the spot where that 'thing' was it was not there 
anymore.
Of course it could have have been a wheather balloon.

Hendrik
who now has a license to fly a UFO



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Re: [MBZ] OT external HDs ?? + bit of benz content.

2010-06-26 Thread archer
As a newby to Macbooks, thought I'd ask if there was a simple way to hook an 
apple os/hd to an MS os/hd such that each could be the backup for the other 
in case one self destructed.  Apparently there isn't.  I'll read up on NAS, 
RAID, and DROBO; and probably set up something like that.


Here in the lightning capital of the world (along with S. Africa) we need 
some sort of backup.  Lightning has only gotten to one monitor and two 
printers so far, but it might be a computer next time.
Soon as I finish a brake job and replace a door stop that just broke, I'll 
try yours and the others suggestions.  These 28 year old Mercedes can sure 
keep ya busy.

Thanks to all,
Gerry
---
From: LWB250 lwb...@yahoo.com
Gerry,
I think you'll be hard pressed to fid a way to do this as you describe, 
without a lot of tinkering on the back ends of both OS'.
The simplest way, IMHO, is to go with NAS (network attached storage) such as 
a RAID or Drobo and just have separate partitions set up for each OS. To 
mirror each machine at that point would be pretty simple.
Your reference to mirroring I suspect is relative to a RAID array, which 
would have to be unique for each OS, I believe. Keep in mind that the only 
real redundant RAID setup is level 5 or above. Levels 0, 1 and 2 won't give 
you the integrity you require. You're talking about a fairly substantial 
undertaking, even with the price of storage these days.
Why exactly are you wanting to do this? Maybe I missed this part of the 
thread, but I don't recall anyone asking. If it's just to maintain data 
integrity and/or backups, you're overthinking this big time.
If data integrity/redundancy is all you're looking for, just buy a couple of 
NAS boxes that are set up for RAID 5. Unless your PC has room for at least 
three drives, you're SOL there. A Mac Pro is the only Apple machine that 
could do this.

Tell us more
Dan


--- On Sat, 6/26/10, archer arche...@embarqmail.com wrote:

___
I would like to mirror the hds in the two computers. When something is
added to the Apple hd it will also be added to the windows hd. When
something is added to the windows hd it will also be added to the Apple hd;
i.e. each computer will be the backup for the other; just like in a server
with mirrored hds. If one hd self destructs all the data will be on the
other hd. The idea is to avoid having an external drive, cables, etc.

Gerry
'83 300D and 240D


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[MBZ] Cool cars but no Benzes

2010-06-26 Thread Rich Thomas

http://www.wired.com/autopia/2010/06/retro-cars-gallery/all/1

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Re: [MBZ] OT external HDs ?? + bit of benz content.

2010-06-26 Thread Peter Frederick
Unless I'm mistake, the Mac will read/write a MS format disk (this  
works fine with USB flash drives) so just use a disk formated on the  
PC, hook up to the Mac as needed.


You will not be able to inter-operate programs, of course, but data  
will be readable on both machines if the same programs are used on  
both (i.e. Word, Photoshope, iTunes, etc).  File formats are the same  
for both.


Otherwise, I'd suggest a server system where all the files are on a  
remote machine that gets backed up regularly.  This is standard  
workplace practice these days -- everything we do at work is now on a  
remote desktop except for the forms we use from some reports that  
need the date and sample time changed each time.  Those are a  
standard format provided by the State of Indiana, so we aren't  
risking anything by keeping them local.


If these are critical or very expensive files (and the music will be $ 
$$ to replace, I think), make absolutely positive that you have  
working backups (test them periodically -- I've run into a situation  
in the past where the backup would never load, rendering it  
completely useless) AND that you keep a copy off-site.  That way if  
someone breaks in and steals your stuff, the house burns down, or  
something equally horrible, you still have your data in the remote  
location.


Peter

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Re: [MBZ] OT - External HD

2010-06-26 Thread LarryT
Mitch wrote I formated a drive (with Linux) in NTFS, and when I record TV 
in
WinXP the recording stops at around 4GB. I never knew if it was a 
shortcoming of the OS or the PCTV software.


Mitch.


4GB? Yikes - that must be like 8 hours of programming?  I have a 40 min TV 
program that's 550kb.


Is it possible to reduce the quality of the programming?  Or is it HD?

I'm not aware of NTFS file size limits either - but have never needed a file 
so large.


You might look for a file splitter -- I have a free version for audio 
files.  There may be one for video files.Or you might be able to use one 
of the popular video editors like Roxio or ?? to modify the size if you can 
get the programs to load -- 
Good luck


Larry
91 300D

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Subject: Re: [MBZ] Heni's BDU's


Hendrik and Fay wrote:


who is in San Fran and looking forward to the Gay pride march on Sunday


The Folsom Street Fair in September could shock the kiddies and stunt 
their growth. Not sure if the March could do the same, or not.


A normal day on Folsom St:
http://articles.sfgate.com/2010-06-13/news/21908833_1_chronicle-exclusive-cultural-kaleidoscope

Folsom Street Fair:
http://myrobotispregnant.com/images_2/images/IMG0001_1.jpg

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Re: [MBZ] OT external HDs ?? + bit of benz content.

2010-06-26 Thread John Reames
NFS != NTFS.
NFS is more comparable to SMB/CIFS.


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Mobile: +14437915905

On Jun 26, 2010, at 10:20, Craig McCluskey diese...@pisquared.net wrote:

 On Sat, 26 Jun 2010 09:06:01 -0400 Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote:
 
 John Reames wrote:
 And vista can do NFS...
 
 Does XP have any problems with NTFS?
 
 I formated a drive (with Linux) in NTFS, and when I record TV in WinXP
 the recording stops at around 4GB. I never knew if it was a shortcoming
 of the OS or the PCTV software.
 
 I'm confused with what you're saying. NTFS is WinXP's preferred disk file
 system. ext2/3 is Linux's most popular choice, though in recent years it
 can also handle NTFS as well as reiser and a host of others.
 
 
 Craig
 
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Re: [MBZ] No news from our OZ-friends lately...

2010-06-26 Thread WILTON

Yep.

Wilton

- Original Message - 
From: Hendrik and Fay heni...@ozemail.com.au

To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Saturday, June 26, 2010 11:53 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] No news from our OZ-friends lately...




That's because the government is covering it up.
All I know I looked out to my left and up in the sky was what looked like 
a plane
in the sky but it was silvery, I looked at the road to make sure I was 
still on
track and when I looked at the spot where that 'thing' was it was not 
there anymore.

Of course it could have have been a wheather balloon.

Hendrik
who now has a license to fly a UFO

On Thu Jun 24  6:36 , 'WILTON' wilt...@nc.rr.com sent:

BTW, I lived at Roswell 'bout 3 months in 1962.  'Never heard a word 'bout 
a

UFO while there.  'Was probably in the hanger several times where the
aliens and their ship were supposedly kept.

Wilton

- Original Message - 
From: Hendrik and Fay heni...@ozemail.com.au

To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2010 1:25 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] No news from our OZ-friends lately...


We saw it from the highway but it was on the other side of the road and 
we

could
not be bothered to turn the bus around.

Hendrik
who is picky about road side attractions but saw a UFO near Roswell

On Mon Jun 21  6:02 , Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net
sent:


Don't forget Cadillac Ranch!

--R




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Re: [MBZ] whats wrong with this one

2010-06-26 Thread Mountain Man
Allan wrote:
 Typing on a keyboard is slow and error prone so they tend to just hit the 
 caps lock and avoid punctuation.


I don't know about anyone else here, but I bristled at the concept of
taking typing class as junior in high school in 1968.  That was an
awful concept - who would have known that the computer keyboard is the
same as the slectric qwerty keyboard.  I guess that lame-brain
woman-only typing class was not so bad after all - in hindsight.
mao

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Re: [MBZ] I guess I can start putting my 140 diesel back on the road

2010-06-26 Thread Mountain Man
Kaleb wrote:
 maybe

oh, man...
this is starting to sound like a marriage love-in email forum...
mao

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Re: [MBZ] whats wrong with this one

2010-06-26 Thread WILTON
I learned to type on qwerty keyboards - Royal, Underwood, etc. - at 14 in 
1948.


Wilton

- Original Message - 
From: Mountain Man maontin@gmail.com

To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Saturday, June 26, 2010 2:19 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] whats wrong with this one



Allan wrote:
Typing on a keyboard is slow and error prone so they tend to just hit the 
caps lock and avoid punctuation.




I don't know about anyone else here, but I bristled at the concept of
taking typing class as junior in high school in 1968.  That was an
awful concept - who would have known that the computer keyboard is the
same as the slectric qwerty keyboard.  I guess that lame-brain
woman-only typing class was not so bad after all - in hindsight.
mao

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Re: [MBZ] whats wrong with this one

2010-06-26 Thread E M
I took typing back in junior high school too.  Having played guitar, I found
typing a snap.  High score in the class. hee hee.  I ended each lesson
thinking, what a was of time, when will I ever type anything in life??  A
year later, I took an introduction to computers, where we had to fill out
punch cardshundreds/thousands of them to make the computer do the
simplest task.

Funny how the keyboard is the one part of the computer that has stuck around
over the years, more of less, unchanged.  What will be the interface that
replaces it ??  Stay tuned.

Ed
300E

On 26 June 2010 14:57, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote:

 I learned to type on qwerty keyboards - Royal, Underwood, etc. - at 14 in
 1948.

 Wilton

 - Original Message - From: Mountain Man maontin@gmail.com
 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
 Sent: Saturday, June 26, 2010 2:19 PM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] whats wrong with this one


  Allan wrote:

 Typing on a keyboard is slow and error prone so they tend to just hit the
 caps lock and avoid punctuation.


 I don't know about anyone else here, but I bristled at the concept of
 taking typing class as junior in high school in 1968.  That was an
 awful concept - who would have known that the computer keyboard is the
 same as the slectric qwerty keyboard.  I guess that lame-brain
 woman-only typing class was not so bad after all - in hindsight.
 mao

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Re: [MBZ] whats wrong with this one

2010-06-26 Thread Peter Frederick
That's the problem with knowledge -- you never really know where  
things are going.  I took typing (I was going to college and planning  
on graduate school, figured it was a skill I would use).  However,  
there is a ton of stuff in my head that is of very limited use now,  
such as how to set ignition points!


Peter

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Re: [MBZ] No news from our OZ-friends lately...

2010-06-26 Thread Mitch Haley

Rich Thomas wrote:
Speaking of gummint, your new PM, or whatever she is,  is kinda easy on 
the eyes.  Unlike our last female presidential candidate...



Remember our next to last female candidate? (got knocked out of the race before 
Hillary did)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4IrE6FMpai8


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Re: [MBZ] OT - External HD

2010-06-26 Thread Mitch Haley

LarryT wrote:
Mitch wrote I formated a drive (with Linux) in NTFS, and when I record 
TV in
WinXP the recording stops at around 4GB. I never knew if it was a 
shortcoming of the OS or the PCTV software.


Mitch.


4GB? Yikes - that must be like 8 hours of programming?  I have a 40 min 
TV program that's 550kb.


Yep, DVD quality looks better, so now that I've got a TB hard drive...
Besides, the stuff I keep gets burned to DVD with MS Movie Maker, so if I'm 
putting DVD bit rate on the disk, I may as well start with that bit rate.


Never used to have this problem on my old computer, but back then I was 
recording analog broadcasts at VCD resolution, less than a GB per hour.
When I was using VCD quality a half hour program took less than 300MB, or I 
could double the data rate


BTW, what's the bit rate for broadcast TV these days?

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Re: [MBZ] whats wrong with this one

2010-06-26 Thread Craig McCluskey
On Sat, 26 Jun 2010 13:19:49 -0500 Mountain Man maontin@gmail.com
wrote:

 I don't know about anyone else here, but I bristled at the concept of
 taking typing class as junior in high school in 1968.

My parents made me take a typing class in Junior High School, 1964. I was
the only boy in the class. I have been glad many times that they made me
do it.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] whats wrong with this one

2010-06-26 Thread E M
Nobody wanted to take typing back when I went to school, it was a filler
class, to round out your schedule.  I remember everyone panicking, when we
discovered the keys didn't have any letters on them.  Hmmm, this might be
harder than we though. lol

300E

On 26 June 2010 15:43, Craig McCluskey diese...@pisquared.net wrote:

 On Sat, 26 Jun 2010 13:19:49 -0500 Mountain Man maontin@gmail.com
 wrote:

  I don't know about anyone else here, but I bristled at the concept of
  taking typing class as junior in high school in 1968.

 My parents made me take a typing class in Junior High School, 1964. I was
 the only boy in the class. I have been glad many times that they made me
 do it.


 Craig

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[MBZ] The High Auto Exhibit

2010-06-26 Thread Rolf Martin-Hoster

If I had to guess Mr Leno owns most of these.

http://picasaweb.google.com/winmutt/HighMusuemAutos#



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[MBZ] Passat Opinions

2010-06-26 Thread LWB250
Looking at a 2002 Passat with the 4 cylinder engine to replace the recently 
totaled 2001 Nissan Maxima.
White with palomino leather interior, 129k, everything works.  Two previous 
owners, dealer maintained.
Goes in for a PPI on Monday, but I would still be interested in hearing any 
opinions of those with direct experience on these cars.
Thanks,
Dan



  
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Re: [MBZ] typing

2010-06-26 Thread RELNGSON
 I learned to type on qwerty keyboards - Royal, Underwood, etc. - at 
 14 in
 1948...
 
I just purchased an IBM Correcting Selectric II on Craigslist. $25.00. Best 
typewriter ever made.

RLE

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Re: [MBZ] typing

2010-06-26 Thread Peter Frederick
That Selectric II is the cat's meow.  Took me a while, but I now have  
two (one in need of repair).


Just about bulletproof with proper maintenance, and type  
wonderfully.  In fact, I'll be typing up a couple letters in the next  
few days, I'm behind.


I shudder to think what one would cost new today, they were something  
like $1200 in 1975!


Peter

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Re: [MBZ] Passat Opinions

2010-06-26 Thread Peter T. Arnold

Expen$ive to maintain, Sister has one.

Pete


On 6/26/2010 4:15 PM, LWB250 wrote:

Looking at a 2002 Passat with the 4 cylinder engine to replace the recently 
totaled 2001 Nissan Maxima.
White with palomino leather interior, 129k, everything works.  Two previous 
owners, dealer maintained.
Goes in for a PPI on Monday, but I would still be interested in hearing any 
opinions of those with direct experience on these cars.
Thanks,
Dan




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Re: [MBZ] Passat Opinions

2010-06-26 Thread Mitch Haley

Peter T. Arnold wrote:

Expen$ive to maintain, Sister has one.


My niece's husband dreads it when she takes her Jetta to the VW dealer and 
plunks down the credit card for whatever the service writer wants to sell. I 
have no idea how much of it is really necessary, but it does add up.


Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] The High Auto Exhibit

2010-06-26 Thread E M
Not Leno as far as I know.  He has several Bugs, and a few Packards, but I
don't think any of these are his collection.

Ed
300E

On 26 June 2010 16:01, Rolf Martin-Hoster r...@winmutt.com wrote:

 If I had to guess Mr Leno owns most of these.

 http://picasaweb.google.com/winmutt/HighMusuemAutos#



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Re: [MBZ] typing

2010-06-26 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On Sat, Jun 26, 2010 at 1:26 PM, relng...@aol.com wrote:

 I just purchased an IBM Correcting Selectric II on Craigslist. $25.00. Best
 typewriter ever made.



What a score!  The last one I saw, the seller was asking $200---evidently
aware of what a cult item those are!  Nothing's better for addressing
envelopes, at the very least.

Alex
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Re: [MBZ] Passat Opinions

2010-06-26 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On Sat, Jun 26, 2010 at 1:15 PM, LWB250 lwb...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Looking at a 2002 Passat with the 4 cylinder engine to replace the recently
 totaled 2001 Nissan Maxima.
 White with palomino leather interior, 129k, everything works.  Two previous
 owners, dealer maintained.
 Goes in for a PPI on Monday, but I would still be interested in hearing any
 opinions of those with direct experience on these cars.


Are you taking it to the dealer or elsewhere for the PPI?  If the former I'd
ask some leading questions and try to get a feel whether they observe proper
maintenance procedures for the turbo four.  It's a great engine if
maintained by the book, but I believe it requires regular oil changes with
quality synthetic oil, just like the TDI engines---and there have been
horror stories for many years on the TDI message boards of
ignorant/unscrupulous/both dealers putting conventional oil in the latter
such that they blow up soon after the warranty expires.

Alex
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Re: [MBZ] typing

2010-06-26 Thread Peter Frederick
I got my first selectric at a public sale in Ontario (the annual junk  
elimination by the Ministry of Forests) for $5.  Needed repair, but  
it was simple.  Cat knocked a screwdriver into it and it's now out of  
synch, otherwise good condition.


My second one, the one currently set up and working, I got at a flea  
market for $20 about ten years ago.


Peter

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Re: [MBZ] typing

2010-06-26 Thread E M
I ditched all my typewriters about 7 years ago, couldn't find ribbons for
them anymore.  They all went to the curbside on trash day.  Shame really.

Ed
300E

On 26 June 2010 17:30, Peter Frederick psf...@earthlink.net wrote:

 I got my first selectric at a public sale in Ontario (the annual junk
 elimination by the Ministry of Forests) for $5.  Needed repair, but it was
 simple.  Cat knocked a screwdriver into it and it's now out of synch,
 otherwise good condition.

 My second one, the one currently set up and working, I got at a flea market
 for $20 about ten years ago.

 Peter


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Re: [MBZ] Passat Opinions

2010-06-26 Thread LWB250
Expensive to maintain or expensive to repair?

Please elaborate.

FWIW, they also had a 2001 Jetta but it had some pretty serious mileage on it, 
like 150k.  On any vehicle that scares me - stuff starts breaking on things 
when you get that sort of mileage on it, no matter how well it's maintained.

Dan


--- On Sat, 6/26/10, Peter T. Arnold pm7...@comcast.net wrote:

From: Peter T. Arnold pm7...@comcast.net
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Passat Opinions
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Date: Saturday, June 26, 2010, 5:01 PM

Expen$ive to maintain, Sister has one.

Pete


On 6/26/2010 4:15 PM, LWB250 wrote:
 Looking at a 2002 Passat with the 4 cylinder engine to replace the recently 
 totaled 2001 Nissan Maxima.
 White with palomino leather interior, 129k, everything works.  Two previous 
 owners, dealer maintained.
 Goes in for a PPI on Monday, but I would still be interested in hearing any 
 opinions of those with direct experience on these cars.
 Thanks,
 Dan




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Re: [MBZ] The High Auto Exhibit

2010-06-26 Thread WILTON

'Saw a Tucker (blue just like that one) pass my home one afternoon in 1948.

Wilton

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To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Saturday, June 26, 2010 4:01 PM
Subject: [MBZ] The High Auto Exhibit



If I had to guess Mr Leno owns most of these.

http://picasaweb.google.com/winmutt/HighMusuemAutos#



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Re: [MBZ] The High Auto Exhibit

2010-06-26 Thread E M
Was the guy driving it shouting, Hold that tiger, out the window?  hee hee

Ed
300E

On 26 June 2010 18:17, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote:

 'Saw a Tucker (blue just like that one) pass my home one afternoon in 1948.

 Wilton

 - Original Message - From: Rolf Martin-Hoster r...@winmutt.com
 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
 Sent: Saturday, June 26, 2010 4:01 PM
 Subject: [MBZ] The High Auto Exhibit



  If I had to guess Mr Leno owns most of these.

 http://picasaweb.google.com/winmutt/HighMusuemAutos#



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Re: [MBZ] typing

2010-06-26 Thread WILTON
In 1977, my secretary in base civil engineering at George AFB, CA, was BADLY 
in need of a new typewriter.  I had noticed that other secretaries, typists, 
etc., around base had IBM Correcting Selectric II's.  When I ordered one, 
supply officer told me I'd have to take an Olivetti, cause it was my 
turn - in the barrel, I guess.  I told 'im it'd be a cold day you know 
where before I'd take an Olivetti.  'Went back to my office and wrote 
sole-source letter, etc; 'got the IBM we wanted few days later.


Wilton

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I learned to type on qwerty keyboards - Royal, Underwood, etc. - at
14 in
1948...

I just purchased an IBM Correcting Selectric II on Craigslist. $25.00. 
Best

typewriter ever made.

RLE

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Re: [MBZ] OT external HDs ?? + bit of benz content

2010-06-26 Thread Curt Raymond
I've been listening to 3 dead trolls for years...

This one is better: 
http://www.deadtroll.com/index2.html?/video/helldeskcable.html~content

-Curt

Date: Sat, 26 Jun 2010 00:36:40 -0400
From: Walt Zarnoch zarnoch...@gmail.com
To:
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Subject:
 Re: [MBZ] OT external HDs ?? + bit of benz content.
Message-ID:
   
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Philip,

Watch this, you'll
 split your sides.

http://www.deadtroll.com/index2.html?/video/ossuckscable.html~content

Walt



  
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Re: [MBZ] OT external HDs ?? + bit of benz content.

2010-06-26 Thread Fmiser
 Mitch Haley wrote:

 I formated a drive (with Linux) in NTFS, and when I record TV
 in WinXP the recording stops at around 4GB. I never knew if it
 was a shortcoming of the OS or the PCTV software.

I'm pretty sure NTFS is limited to 4G

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Re: [MBZ] OT external HDs ?? + bit of benz content.

2010-06-26 Thread Curt Raymond
Theres more than one flavor of NTFS. IIRC Win2k came with NTFS2k which is 
different than old NT4 NTFS which had a 4GB file size limit. IIRC old NTFS had 
a 4GB partition limit too but that was pretty easily worked around with tools 
like Partition Magic.

I'd say reimage with Windows and in the future only ever format NTFS with a 
Windows box. Its only been a quite recent development that Linux boxes can 
write to NTFS its quite possible they're using an older implementation.

-Curt

Date: Sat, 26 Jun 2010 08:26:43 -0500
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Subject:
 Re: [MBZ] OT external HDs ?? + bit of benz content.
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Probably a 
limitation of the software.  NTFS is the native file 
system for  
winders 2000, XP and all later M$ OS.   I don't know of 
anything 
within NTFS that would limit the file size, unless a policy 
is set 
to limit user file space, but that should limit the overall 
file 
space, not per file allocation.



John Reames wrote:
And
 vista can do NFS...

Does XP have any problems with NTFS?

I
 formated a drive (with Linux) in NTFS, and when I record TV in 
WinXP
 the recording stops at around 4GB. I never knew if it was a 
shortcoming
 of the OS or the PCTV software.

Mitch.


  
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Re: [MBZ] Selectric

2010-06-26 Thread RELNGSON
 ...I ditched all my typewriters about 7 years ago, couldn't find ribbons 
 for
 them anymore.  They all went to the curbside on trash day.  Shame 
 really...
 
Ribbons for most everything are available online, even today. Selectric 
ribbon cartridges are stocked routinely by Staples etc. About twelve bucks.

That baby weighs 53 pounds.

RLE
 
 
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Re: [MBZ] OT - External HD

2010-06-26 Thread LarryT

You asked what's the bit rate for broadcast TV

Hi Mitch -
Don't know - how do I tell?  One recent program Modern Marvels - The 
Autobahn lasted 44m 44sec and was 346MB in .avi format.  The Other info 
says:

Data Rate 7kbps
Total Bitrate 125kbps
frame rate 29 frames/sec
Audio bit rate - 128kbps

Is that what you were asking?
LarryT
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LarryT wrote:
Mitch wrote I formated a drive (with Linux) in NTFS, and when I record 
TV in
WinXP the recording stops at around 4GB. I never knew if it was a 
shortcoming of the OS or the PCTV software.


Mitch.


4GB? Yikes - that must be like 8 hours of programming?  I have a 40 min 
TV program that's 550kb.


Yep, DVD quality looks better, so now that I've got a TB hard drive...
Besides, the stuff I keep gets burned to DVD with MS Movie Maker, so if 
I'm putting DVD bit rate on the disk, I may as well start with that bit 
rate.


Never used to have this problem on my old computer, but back then I was 
recording analog broadcasts at VCD resolution, less than a GB per hour.
When I was using VCD quality a half hour program took less than 300MB, or 
I could double the data rate


BTW, what's the bit rate for broadcast TV these days?

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Re: [MBZ] OT external HDs ?? + bit of benz content.

2010-06-26 Thread LarryT

Mitch asked Does XP have any problems with NTFS?
No - I use NTFS on XP and Vista - it's the best file format available in 
WIndows...


No idea about the Linux world...

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John Reames wrote:

And vista can do NFS...


Does XP have any problems with NTFS?

I formated a drive (with Linux) in NTFS, and when I record TV in WinXP the 
recording stops at around 4GB. I never knew if it was a shortcoming of the 
OS or the PCTV software.


Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] Selectric

2010-06-26 Thread Peter Frederick

About the same as my Diablo HyType II!

Peter

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Re: [MBZ] 4 GB NTFS

2010-06-26 Thread LarryT

Mitch -
I did a search of Vista Help and came up with this -- It 
specifically says NTFS supports files 4GB. But there are other comments 
below that may shed some light -


What can I do if I get an error that states the movie file exceeds 4 
gigabytes?


This error occurs if you are publishing a movie with a file size that 
exceeds the 4 gigabyte (GB) file size limit imposed by the FAT32 file 
system. This problem may especially occur with long movies that are 
published with a high setting on a volume or partition that is using the 
FAT32 file system.


To address this issue, do one or more of the following:

Reduce the length of your movie by removing items from the 
storyboard/timeline in Windows Movie Maker, and then try to publish your 
movie again.


Choose a lower quality or file size setting when publishing your movie. To 
learn more, see Movie settings: frequently asked questions.


If your computer's hard disk drive has multiple partitions, and one is 
formatted using the NTFS file system, then publish your movie to the NTFS 
partition. The NTFS file system supports files larger than 4 GB.


If you are recording your published movie to tape and you have multiple 
partitions on your hard disk, and if one partition is formatted using the 
NTFS file system, you can use that partition as your temporary storage 
location. To change the temporary storage location, do the following:


Click Tools, and then click Options.

In the Temporary Storage box, choose the drive that is formatted using the 
NTFS file system.


Convert your file system to use the NTFS file system. The NTFS file system 
supports files larger than 4 GB. To learn more, see Convert a volume to NTFS 
format.


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Re: [MBZ] typing

2010-06-26 Thread Mountain Man
Is anyone here using the old IBM clicky keyboard? - what is the proper
model designation? - model M, I believe?
I have one here - just don't know if I could function with the keys as
well as I do with the cheap china membrane keyboard currently plugged
in...
mao

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Re: [MBZ] Selectric

2010-06-26 Thread E M
now you tell me. lol

Ed
300E

On 26 June 2010 19:55, relng...@aol.com wrote:

  ...I ditched all my typewriters about 7 years ago, couldn't find ribbons
  for
  them anymore.  They all went to the curbside on trash day.  Shame
  really...
 
 Ribbons for most everything are available online, even today. Selectric
 ribbon cartridges are stocked routinely by Staples etc. About twelve bucks.

 That baby weighs 53 pounds.

 RLE
 
 
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Re: [MBZ] typing

2010-06-26 Thread Peter Frederick
Not an IBM (although I've used one) but a Northgate of similar  
vintage I will be trying soon since i found the necessary adapter for  
the PS2 connection.  Nice and heavy so it won't migrate, mechanical  
switches that click under your fingers like a Selectric, pure heaven.


Peter

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Re: [MBZ] OT - External HD

2010-06-26 Thread Curt Raymond
Larry, you're missing something somewhere, 550Kb (kilobits) wouldn't make a 
good 50 second audio file. 550KB (kiloBYTES) might do 15-20 minutes of AUDIO 
but no video to speak of unless it was postage stamp sized and very short.

DV25 like from a miniDV camcorder (which is 5:1 compression already) is 4 
minutes per GB...

-Curt

Date: Sat, 26 Jun 2010 12:53:49 -0400
From: LarryT l02tur...@comcast.net
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Subject:
 Re: [MBZ] OT - External HD
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reply-type=response

Mitch wrote I formated a drive (with 
Linux) in NTFS, and when I record TV 
in
WinXP the recording 
stops at around 4GB. I never knew if it was a 
shortcoming of the
 OS or the PCTV software.

Mitch.

4GB? Yikes - that
 must be like 8 hours of programming?  I have a 40 min TV 
program 
that's 550kb.

Is it possible to reduce the quality of the 
programming?  Or is it HD?

I'm not aware of NTFS file size limits
 either - but have never needed a file 
so large.

You might 
look for a file splitter -- I have a free version for audio 
files. 
 There may be one for video files.    Or you might be able to use one 
of
 the popular video editors like Roxio or ?? to modify the size if you 
can 
get the programs to load -- 
Good luck

Larry
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Re: [MBZ] OT - External HD

2010-06-26 Thread Curt Raymond
Thats a very vauge question...

Somewhere between 2 and 25 Mb (megabits) per second.

2Mb would be an SD signal from cable or a satellite, 25Mb is OTA HD. Yes you'll 
get much higher quality television with rabbit ears that with ANY of the cable 
or satellite providers. Comcast is one of the worst, their HD is something like 
6Mb...

Remember 8 bits to the byte, 8Mb to 1MB.

-Curt

Date: Sat, 26 Jun 2010 15:39:32 -0400
From: Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net
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Subject:
 Re: [MBZ] OT - External HD
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BTW, what's the bit rate for broadcast TV 
these days?


  
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Re: [MBZ] Passat Opinions

2010-06-26 Thread Curt Raymond
As near as I can tell VWs are not for keeping outside warranty...

They'll nickle and dime you right to death.

I'd say stay with Asian or (and this is a turn for me) Ford/GM...

-Curt

Date: Sat, 26 Jun 2010 13:15:19 -0700 (PDT)
From: LWB250 lwb...@yahoo.com
To:
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Subject:
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Looking at a 2002 Passat with the
 4 cylinder engine to replace the recently totaled 2001 Nissan Maxima.
White
 with palomino leather interior, 129k, everything works. ?Two previous 
owners, dealer maintained.
Goes in for a PPI on Monday, but I would 
still be interested in hearing any opinions of those with direct 
experience on these cars.
Thanks,
Dan



  
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Re: [MBZ] OT external HDs ?? + bit of benz content.

2010-06-26 Thread Curt Raymond
http://www.ntfs.com/ntfs_vs_fat.htm suggests we're both wrong but I think its 
not right as FAT32 had a 4GB file size limit that I've had to work around many 
times. Pro-video folks found NTFS and HFS+ on the Mac a godsend...

Wikipedia is of course more reasonable and suggests as I did in a different 
email that Win2k brought out a new version: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NTFS 
but it says max file size is 16TB which is now incorrect as XP and later get 
the bump to 16EB although there are some technical reasons that isn't true that 
I can't remember just now.

Some tickle in the back of my mind makes me think the 2GB file size limit in 
NT4 (or was it 4GB by then) might not have been NTFS but something else to do 
with NT4.

Rest assured at any rate there is basically no file size limit anymore, the 
easy way to prove it on an XP box is to capture from a DV camcorder for more 
than 9 minutes...

-Curt



Date: Sat, 26 Jun 2010 18:35:53 -0500
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Subject:
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 Mitch Haley wrote:


 I formated a drive (with Linux) in NTFS, and when I record TV
 
in WinXP the recording stops at around 4GB. I never knew if it
 
was a shortcoming of the OS or the PCTV software.

I'm pretty sure
 NTFS is limited to 4G

--   Philip


  
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Re: [MBZ] OT external HDs ?? + bit of benz content.

2010-06-26 Thread Dieselhead
I believe this is the correct explanation.  the linux NTFS was the 
NT4 implementation that was limited to 4 Gb.
  Move the stuff off and reformat with a winders 2000 or newer OS, or 
with a third party partition manager.


Theres more than one flavor of NTFS. IIRC Win2k came with NTFS2k 
which is different than old NT4 NTFS which had a 4GB file size 
limit. IIRC old NTFS had a 4GB partition limit too but that was 
pretty easily worked around with tools like Partition Magic.


I'd say reimage with Windows and in the future only ever format NTFS 
with a Windows box. Its only been a quite recent development that 
Linux boxes can write to NTFS its quite possible they're using an 
older implementation.


-Curt

Date: Sat, 26 Jun 2010 08:26:43 -0500
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Subject:
 Re: [MBZ] OT external HDs ?? + bit of benz content.
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Probably a
limitation of the software.  NTFS is the native file
system for 
winders 2000, XP and all later M$ OS.   I don't know of

anything
within NTFS that would limit the file size, unless a policy
is set
to limit user file space, but that should limit the overall
file
space, not per file allocation.




John Reames wrote:

And

 vista can do NFS...


Does XP have any problems with NTFS?

I

 formated a drive (with Linux) in NTFS, and when I record TV in

WinXP

 the recording stops at around 4GB. I never knew if it was a

shortcoming

 of the OS or the PCTV software.


Mitch.



 
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Re: [MBZ] OT - External HD

2010-06-26 Thread Mitch Haley

Curt Raymond wrote:

Thats a very vauge question...

Somewhere between 2 and 25 Mb (megabits) per second.

2Mb would be an SD signal from cable or a satellite, 25Mb is OTA HD. Yes you'll 
get much higher quality television with rabbit ears that with ANY of the cable 
or satellite providers. Comcast is one of the worst, their HD is something like 
6Mb...

Remember 8 bits to the byte, 8Mb to 1MB.



Yeah, I was talking OTA. Found this on Wiki, basically correct?

Each commercial terrestrial DTV channel in North America is permitted to be 
broadcast at a data rate up to 19 megabits per second, or 2.375 megabytes per 
second. However, the broadcaster does not need to use this entire bandwidth for 
just one broadcast channel. Instead the broadcast can be subdivided across 
several video subchannels (aka feeds) of varying quality and compression rates, 
including non-video datacasting services that allow one-way high-bandwidth 
streaming of data to computers.



My old Pinnacle setup records VCD at 1.15 MB and DVD at 6.0MB by default. I can 
adjust that up or down a bit if I choose. My old recordings from analog TV were 
usually made with a custom setting of MPEG 1-HQ, 352x240, 2.0 or 2.5MB/sec. Now 
I record DTV at 720x480, I usually get decent motion at 6MB/s.


One of our local channels has standard, HD, and two alternate programs. I wonder 
how much they allocate to the HD subchannel?




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Re: [MBZ] Passat Opinions

2010-06-26 Thread Allan Streib
I've heard that VW in the first part of the decade were quite prone to 
electrical problems.  I don't specifically know if that includes the Passat 
though, I've heard it more in regards to the Jetta and Beetle.

Allan

On Sat, 26 Jun 2010 13:15 -0700, LWB250 lwb...@yahoo.com wrote:
 Looking at a 2002 Passat with the 4 cylinder engine to replace the
 recently totaled 2001 Nissan Maxima.
 White with palomino leather interior, 129k, everything works.  Two
 previous owners, dealer maintained.
 Goes in for a PPI on Monday, but I would still be interested in hearing
 any opinions of those with direct experience on these cars.
 Thanks,
 Dan
 

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Re: [MBZ] OT external HDs ?? + bit of benz content.

2010-06-26 Thread Dieselhead
This is straining the depths of unused trivia in my memory.  I do 
recall the 2 Gb wall with NT4.  I think SP 3 or 4 or maybe 6 raised 
the wall to 4 Gb.  I do remember that 2000 brought out a new NTFS.  I 
am pretty sure that Server 2003 bumped the limits up again.  There 
are definitely  different versions of NTFS.  I do remember that.



http://www.ntfs.com/ntfs_vs_fat.htm suggests we're both wrong but I 
think its not right as FAT32 had a 4GB file size limit that I've had 
to work around many times. Pro-video folks found NTFS and HFS+ on 
the Mac a godsend...


Wikipedia is of course more reasonable and suggests as I did in a 
different email that Win2k brought out a new version: 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NTFS but it says max file size is 16TB 
which is now incorrect as XP and later get the bump to 16EB although 
there are some technical reasons that isn't true that I can't 
remember just now.


Some tickle in the back of my mind makes me think the 2GB file size 
limit in NT4 (or was it 4GB by then) might not have been NTFS but 
something else to do with NT4.


Rest assured at any rate there is basically no file size limit 
anymore, the easy way to prove it on an XP box is to capture from a 
DV camcorder for more than 9 minutes...


-Curt



Date: Sat, 26 Jun 2010 18:35:53 -0500
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 Mitch Haley wrote:





 I formated a drive (with Linux) in NTFS, and when I record TV



in WinXP the recording stops at around 4GB. I never knew if it



was a shortcoming of the OS or the PCTV software.

I'm pretty sure
 NTFS is limited to 4G

--   Philip


 
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Re: [MBZ] OT external HDs ?? + bit of benz content.

2010-06-26 Thread Allan Streib
On Sat, 26 Jun 2010 18:35 -0500, Fmiser fmi...@gmail.com wrote:

 I'm pretty sure NTFS is limited to 4G

It's not, but FAT (the legacy DOS filesystem) might have been.

Allan


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Re: [MBZ] Passat Opinions

2010-06-26 Thread Allan Streib
My 1991 Jetta was one of the lowest-maintenance cost cars I owned.

The 1.8l 8v engine was bulletproof, as was the 5 speed manual transmission.  I 
did have recurring issues with the coolant temp sensors but they are about a $5 
part and easily switched out with nothing but a pair of pliers to pull the 
retaining clip.

I replace the idle stabilization valve once, that was a couple of hundred but a 
simple RR.  Also had to replace the electric radiator fan motor a couple of 
times, a bit of a tight squeeze but otherwise straightforward and not expensive.

The dealer never touched the car, though. I did everything myself from day 1 
except exhaust work, that went to a local independent exhaust shop.

Allan

On Sat, 26 Jun 2010 17:52 -0700, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote:
 As near as I can tell VWs are not for keeping outside warranty...
 
 They'll nickle and dime you right to death.
 
 I'd say stay with Asian or (and this is a turn for me) Ford/GM...
 

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[MBZ] 126 STICKING CALIPER

2010-06-26 Thread Dan Weeks
My 82 300SD has a sticking rear caliper. One brake puck worn more than  
the others, and after parking it for two weeks, the LR wheel wouldn't  
turn until I gave it considerable throttle. Tire eventually slid  
across driveway floor until it broke free.


What's the fix? New caliper? Or are they DIY rebuildable? Cost?

Thanks!

Dan
82 300SD, 332k

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Re: [MBZ] OT external HDs ?? + bit of benz content.

2010-06-26 Thread dave walton
You can initialize an NTFS disk with an MBR or GPT partition table.
MBR can't see past 2Tb. GPT can.
The current implementation of NTFS is limited to 4 million clusters.
If you use 512 byte sectors, that limits the partition size to 2Tb.
You need to increase the cluster size if you need a larger partition.
Extending a volume is subject to the same limitation. Unfortunately
there are no utilities that are able to do an in-place migration that
increases cluster size. You need to initially set a cluster size that
allows expansion to the maximum partition size you might need. I've
personally worked with single NTFS partitions of 20Tb (Raid-6 array of
16 x 1.5Tb drives) . That required using a 8K cluster size.

Only the Itanium specific versions of Windows can boot from GPT disks.
All recent vintage 3Ware and Areca controllers allow designating a
boot partition  2Tb out of a much larger array so you don't need
dedicated boot drives (you can boot from the array). This allows you
to create a virtual MBR disk to boot from while most of the array
capacity is in a GPT disk.

-Dave Walton


On Sat, Jun 26, 2010 at 10:20 PM, Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu wrote:
 On Sat, 26 Jun 2010 18:35 -0500, Fmiser fmi...@gmail.com wrote:

 I'm pretty sure NTFS is limited to 4G

 It's not, but FAT (the legacy DOS filesystem) might have been.

 Allan


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[MBZ] VW Passat

2010-06-26 Thread tom tomscat

HI,

 

We bought a used 2004 Passat Wagon (37K) for the wife about two years ago to 
replace a Jeep Grand Cherokee.  Turbo AWD, sunroof.  It has performed 
flawlessly so far--- the Jeep Gr cherokee did also, but I always hated driving 
it. I would have dropped that Jeep in a second if it gave me half an excuse to 
do so, but, honestly, it never did.   I much prefer the Passat to the Jeep, it 
is at least a little fun to drive anemic as it is.  The turbo helps.  Great 
gas mileage, btw.  It is her car, though, and she loves it.  I drive it only if 
I have to.

 

Tom Schuch

SE Connecticut

1975 300D W115

1982 BMW 323i Baur Euro

and five other BMWs

and her VW Passat Turbo AWD Wagon

 

On 6/26/2010 4:15 PM, LWB250 wrote:
 Looking at a 2002 Passat with the 4 cylinder engine to replace the recently 
 totaled 2001 Nissan Maxima.
 White with palomino leather interior, 129k, everything works. Two previous 
 owners, dealer maintained.
 Goes in for a PPI on Monday, but I would still be interested in hearing any 
 opinions of those with direct experience on these cars.
 Thanks,
 Dan

  
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Re: [MBZ] 126 STICKING CALIPER

2010-06-26 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
Its either a bad brake hose or a bad caliper.  Good used calipers are 
cheap and will do the trick.  I happen to have plenty laying around.


Dan Weeks wrote:
My 82 300SD has a sticking rear caliper. One brake puck worn more than 
the others, and after parking it for two weeks, the LR wheel wouldn't 
turn until I gave it considerable throttle. Tire eventually slid 
across driveway floor until it broke free.


What's the fix? New caliper? Or are they DIY rebuildable? Cost?

Thanks!

Dan
82 300SD, 332k

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Re: [MBZ] No news from our OZ-friends lately...

2010-06-26 Thread Hendrik and Fay
She might be easy on the eye but I didn't vote for her to be our prime minister.
Why do I vote - because it is compulsory in Australia.
If you don't vote you get fined. 
How they know if you haven't voted is on election day you go to the polling 
booth
 get your name ticked off the electoral roll.
This November when we vote for a new PM I shall go to the polling booth get my
name ticked off the electoral roll  put a blank ballot paper in the boxes - not
happy with either of the leaders running for PM.

As for Hendrik he can't vote as he is not an Australian citizen, he is a
permanent resident in OZ.

Fay

On Sat Jun 26  9:04 , Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net sent:

Speaking of gummint, your new PM, or whatever she is,  is kinda easy on 
the eyes.  Unlike our last female presidential candidate...

--R

On 6/26/2010 11:53 AM, Hendrik and Fay wrote:
 That's because the government is covering it up.
 All I know I looked out to my left and up in the sky was what looked like a 
 plane
 in the sky but it was silvery, I looked at the road to make sure I was still 
 on
 track and when I looked at the spot where that 'thing' was it was not there
anymore.
 Of course it could have have been a wheather balloon.

 Hendrik
 who now has a license to fly a UFO


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Re: [MBZ] (SPAM?) 126 STICKING CALIPER

2010-06-26 Thread Jim Cathey

What's the fix? New caliper? Or are they DIY rebuildable? Cost?


I've rebuilt them before.  Don't know how the longevity
stacks up, but it's certainly possible, lacking damage
to the pucks or bores.

I've had some luck just refurbishing them, not replacing
any parts.  You can usually tell.  If the rubber cover
is still intact, the seal ring likely is as well.

-- Jim



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Re: [MBZ] typing

2010-06-26 Thread Jim Cathey
I just purchased an IBM Correcting Selectric II on Craigslist. 
$25.00. Best

typewriter ever made.

at a score!  The last one I saw, the seller was asking $200---evidently
aware of what a cult item those are!  Nothing's better for addressing
envelopes, at the very least.


Wow!  Those were $5-10 thrift-shop items around here awhile
ago.  Most got cleaned out, you don't see them too often anymore.
I grabbed 2-3 Selectrics some years ago.  A 1, a II, and a correcting.

Never use 'em, but I love having a few neat old mechanical doodads
in the closet to muse upon.  Goes with the rotary calculators...

-- Jim



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Re: [MBZ] whats wrong with this one

2010-06-26 Thread Jim Cathey

I don't know about anyone else here, but I bristled at the concept of
taking typing class as junior in high school in 1968.


Ten years later my Mom slapped me upside the head and
told me to drop my one filler HS class and replace it with
typing.  You're going into computers, you're going to
want to know how to type.  Duh!

When nobody was looking I'd open up the machines and see how
they worked.  I watched the repairman at his business, too.
That's how I learned how to field-strip a Selectric II in
under a minute!  Made a right scary-looking mess out of an
expensive machine...

People always thought they were computerized somehow.  They
were barely even electric.  You could hook a treadle to one
and type, in a post-apocalyptic world!  Nothing but a motor
and a switch, the rest purely mechanical.  Steam-powered,
that would be fun!

I feel an idea coming on...  :-)

-- Jim



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Re: [MBZ] 126 STICKING CALIPER

2010-06-26 Thread Peter Frederick
It's a fairly easy rebuild, replacements are not expensive, but do  
replace all the hoses -- it's now time, and you don't want one to  
either leak or develop a one-way valve.


Peter

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Re: [MBZ] whats wrong with this one

2010-06-26 Thread Peter Frederick
Did you know that Selectric I's were used as computer terminals?   
That's why there used to be that strange, very low baud rate on UNIX  
and IBM serial connections -- it was set to allow a full carriage  
return on the Selectric terminal!


Noisy bastards, but they do in fact live forever.  Very very slick  
system, too.  I even remember how to adjust them, I think, for proper  
letter placement on the page.  When they get old, you sorta have to  
chose which letters won't align exactly right unless you want to  
replace parts, and that's not really an option any more.


The models after the Selectric III in 1978 or so were all hybrid --  
electronic with electromechanical actuation.  They were all junk, too  
-- very high failure rate in 5 years (as in 75% and up).  Put IBM out  
of the typewriter buisness, as all the other machines with daisy  
wheels worked better and longer and were cheaper.


Peter

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Re: [MBZ] whats wrong with this one

2010-06-26 Thread Craig McCluskey
On Sat, 26 Jun 2010 20:53:28 -0700 Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net
wrote:

  I don't know about anyone else here, but I bristled at the concept of
  taking typing class as junior in high school in 1968.
 
 Ten years later my Mom slapped me upside the head and
 told me to drop my one filler HS class and replace it with
 typing.  You're going into computers, you're going to
 want to know how to type.  Duh!

Good for her!


 People always thought they were computerized somehow.  They
 were barely even electric.  You could hook a treadle to one
 and type, in a post-apocalyptic world!  Nothing but a motor
 and a switch, the rest purely mechanical.  Steam-powered,
 that would be fun!

When I was a freshman at Caltech (1967) we had remote mechanical
terminals connected to a central computer in the computer center. Instead
of ASR-33 teletypes, they had changed to electrified Selectrics. They
couldn't hold up to the beating of a myriad of freshmen printing out
their programs constantly. It was fun, however, watching that ball bounce
around at high speed.


 I feel an idea coming on...  :-)

GO FOR IT!!! :-) :-)


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] 126 STICKING CALIPER

2010-06-26 Thread Scott Ritchey
Check the hose first.  With the brake seized, open the bleeder or the loosen
the hose at the caliper.  If the caliper is really sticking it's probably
rusty and may need more than just new rubber.  I'd go with a reman or good
used ... quicker, cleaner, and sure to do the job.  But with a skidding
tire, I'd guess a bad hose.  You have been replacing brake fluid every three
years or so ...

Scott

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On Behalf Of Kaleb C. Striplin
Sent: Saturday, June 26, 2010 23:20
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] 126 STICKING CALIPER

Its either a bad brake hose or a bad caliper.  Good used calipers are 
cheap and will do the trick.  I happen to have plenty laying around.

Dan Weeks wrote:
 My 82 300SD has a sticking rear caliper. One brake puck worn more than 
 the others, and after parking it for two weeks, the LR wheel wouldn't 
 turn until I gave it considerable throttle. Tire eventually slid 
 across driveway floor until it broke free.

 What's the fix? New caliper? Or are they DIY rebuildable? Cost?

 Thanks!

 Dan
 82 300SD, 332k

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Re: [MBZ] whats wrong with this one

2010-06-26 Thread Dieselhead

Steam powered selectric.  I like it!  (Laughing)

I too took a typing class.  (70 or 71 )  It was a filler class as I 
had all the credits to graduate, but back then they didn't  let 
anyone gradgitate early.  I was a pretty good hunt and peck typist 
before that class.  After the class, I was not good at either.  I 
think it was my senior year.  Kurt Weiler and I sat in a corner and 
didn't  take it too seriously.  The one thing I never expected to 
survive into the computer age was the querty keyboard.  At least it 
should be dvorak.





I don't know about anyone else here, but I bristled at the concept of
taking typing class as junior in high school in 1968.


Ten years later my Mom slapped me upside the head and
told me to drop my one filler HS class and replace it with
typing.  You're going into computers, you're going to
want to know how to type.  Duh!

When nobody was looking I'd open up the machines and see how
they worked.  I watched the repairman at his business, too.
That's how I learned how to field-strip a Selectric II in
under a minute!  Made a right scary-looking mess out of an
expensive machine...

People always thought they were computerized somehow.  They
were barely even electric.  You could hook a treadle to one
and type, in a post-apocalyptic world!  Nothing but a motor
and a switch, the rest purely mechanical.  Steam-powered,
that would be fun!

I feel an idea coming on...  :-)

-- Jim



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