[MBZ] Happy Thanksgiving!
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Re: [MBZ] Happy Thanksgiving!
Malazadas or fillozes? I'm getting the turkey ready to go in the oven Happy Thanksgiving to all, even those outside the States! Dan Sent from my iPhone On Nov 24, 2011, at 8:43 AM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: Happy Thanksgiving to all! I am off to fry Portuguese donuts ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Happy Thanksgiving!
Got up at 5 and put the turkey in, gonna be too much food again this year! Happy thanksgiving! Peter On Nov 24, 2011, at 7:43 AM, Dieselhead wrote: Happy Thanksgiving to all! I am off to fry Portuguese donuts ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] TPMS
Brilliant! You should run for office. -Curt Date: Wed, 23 Nov 2011 21:42:12 -0500 From: Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] TPMS Message-ID: m1aa7mnsvv@cs.indiana.edu Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com writes: A complete waste of time brought along for ninnys who can't be bothered to just check the dammed tire pressure. Back when we had full-service gas stations they would check your tire pressure, oil, clean your windows, etc. while you sat in comfort in your car. Surprised they didn't just legislate mandatory full-service, could have claimed they created some jobs... Allan -- 1983 300D 1979 300SD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Trans upgrades
Can anybody be more specific about what you do in the K1 procedure? I'm taking the week after Christmas off and lining up my jobs. Figuring on a trans service with M1. Car has ~175,000 miles with dubious maintenance previously. I had my Indy do the trans fluid and filter 15k ago with just conventional fluid which I'm considering a flush... -Curt Date: Wed, 23 Nov 2011 21:43:47 -0500 From: Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Trans upgrades Message-ID: m162ianst8@cs.indiana.edu Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Michael Canfield slozuk...@gmail.com writes: I will be changing the transmission fluid and filter in my 83 300d soon. I have read about upgraded parts that I should change while in there. I believe one is a K1 spring kit, what else is there I should do while in there to make it last? It has under 150k miles and is just starting to flare a bit on the 2 to 3 shift. The spring kit is easy enough, though in my 300D I can't say it really made a noticeable difference. I did it when my B2 piston broke and I had things opened up. M1 ATF is good stuff though. Worth the $$ in my opinion. Allan -- 1983 300D 1979 300SD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W116 electrical gremlins
The 116 as you know has a whole different dash system than the 123. I've always thought the dash lights in the 116 were superior. -Curt Date: Wed, 23 Nov 2011 21:46:46 -0500 From: Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] W116 electrical gremlins Message-ID: m11usynso9@cs.indiana.edu Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net writes: Most find 123 lighting too dim anyway, but I don't know about 116. The dash lights on my 300SD are significantly brighter than on my 300D. Maybe a PO installed overwattage bulbs?? Allan -- 1983 300D 1979 300SD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] TPMS
I bought my '83 240D in NJ and it was almost empty when I got it. When I pulled into the station the (probably Indian) attendant grabbed a gas nozzle. I leaped from the cab No, diesel. He shook his head and brandished the nozzle Gasoline, good stuff! I started to get agitated, after all I'd only owned the car fifteen minutes, Diesel fuel. Gasoline! I pointed at the trunk deck Diesel fuel. He started to remove the fuel cap and I grabbed his wrist, meanwhile the other attendant in the office is frantically dialing the phone, Look man, if you put gas in my car I'll break your arm. He stepped away and put the nozzle up. I proceeded to fuel my car my own dammed self. As I was getting finished the cop rolled up. I explained what had happened and he laughed. Apparently this sort of thing was always happening at this station... -Curt Date: Wed, 23 Nov 2011 21:04:08 -0600 (CST) From: hurs...@verizon.net To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] TPMS Message-ID: 3809179.370253.1322103848803.JavaMail.root@vznit170064 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 It is gas and go; never expect the attendant to open the hood to check oil nor wash your windshield. Else, you upset the Indian folks and can barely understand their English. If they spilled a few drops of fuel, it is OK. But if you touch the pump, they screamed at you in their native language very very loud. That's full service in NJ. k.S. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Happy Thanksgiving!
We are going to a restaurant or something Sent from my iPhone On Nov 24, 2011, at 7:51 AM, Dan Penoff lwb...@yahoo.com wrote: Malazadas or fillozes? I'm getting the turkey ready to go in the oven Happy Thanksgiving to all, even those outside the States! Dan Sent from my iPhone On Nov 24, 2011, at 8:43 AM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: Happy Thanksgiving to all! I am off to fry Portuguese donuts ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W116 electrical gremlins
Roger that! I bought the xenon bulbs on eBay and they melted the light pipes... Not worth it. I can't find the link to the site I bought the LEDs from, they were 2x the cost of the xenon bulbs which were 2x the cost of regular bulbs from Q but they seem to be worth it. -Curt Date: Wed, 23 Nov 2011 21:41:45 -0800 From: Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] W116 electrical gremlins Message-ID: fe9770de-165e-11e1-9b66-000502d9a...@windwireless.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed The dash lights on my 300SD are significantly brighter than on my 300D. Maybe a PO installed overwattage bulbs?? IIRC the 116 and 107 share a dash pod. The lighting is direct in them, whereas in the 123 there are plastic light pipes from bulbs in the back. If you screw up and put in overwattage bulbs on a 123 you will melt the light pipe ends, and the lighting will go _down_! Either change to some kind of ultra-bright LED's to fill the pipes, or line things with shiny aluminum foil. (The latter is fairly easy, and cheap, and doesn't give a blue cast to the dash lighting.) -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W116 electrical gremlins
Re: lined the light chamber and the light pipes with aluminum foil, now it gets adequately bright I did the same in both my '84 300D '85 300TD and it makes a world of difference. G. M. Brown Brevard, NC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Happy Thanksgiving, especially Wilton
Can't you just imagine Wilton cruising around town in a rotary engined Mazda RX-8? http://uncomm.com/web/rx8_donk.jpg ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Happy Thanksgiving!
Making pies, bird's in the brine, and I'm making sure I have everything I need for both menus: the familiar food like grandmother made us and Paleo fare. Not going to force it on any of our guests, it will be there for them to try. Additionallym I think I have the correct booze to family ratio to help me through the day. Bob R On Nov 24, 2011 8:00 AM, Peter Frederick psf...@earthlink.net wrote: Got up at 5 and put the turkey in, gonna be too much food again this year! Happy thanksgiving! Peter On Nov 24, 2011, at 7:43 AM, Dieselhead wrote: Happy Thanksgiving to all! I am off to fry Portuguese donuts __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Trans upgrades
If you drain the torque converter you will remove nearly all the old fluid -- what's left is in the valve body, servos, and pump. Less than a quart, probably no more than a pint or so, and can be ignored. The fluid change 15k ago did a nice flush job for you. Peter On Nov 24, 2011, at 9:22 AM, Curt Raymond wrote: Can anybody be more specific about what you do in the K1 procedure? I'm taking the week after Christmas off and lining up my jobs. Figuring on a trans service with M1. Car has ~175,000 miles with dubious maintenance previously. I had my Indy do the trans fluid and filter 15k ago with just conventional fluid which I'm considering a flush... -Curt Date: Wed, 23 Nov 2011 21:43:47 -0500 From: Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Trans upgrades Message-ID: m162ianst8@cs.indiana.edu Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Michael Canfield slozuk...@gmail.com writes: I will be changing the transmission fluid and filter in my 83 300d soon. I have read about upgraded parts that I should change while in there. I believe one is a K1 spring kit, what else is there I should do while in there to make it last? It has under 150k miles and is just starting to flare a bit on the 2 to 3 shift. The spring kit is easy enough, though in my 300D I can't say it really made a noticeable difference. I did it when my B2 piston broke and I had things opened up. M1 ATF is good stuff though. Worth the $$ in my opinion. Allan -- 1983 300D 1979 300SD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Fuel Monkeys
Diesel fuel. Gasoline! I haven't noticed anything this blatant in Oregon, which also legislates that you be 'helped' by 'trained' personnel. (Personally I think that the training, if there is indeed any, consists of knowing where the fuel cutoff switch is, and the spill cleanup kit.) I think I've actually fueled my own diesels a few times in OR, I seem to remember that one of the attendants told me that the law only applied to gasoline, though most places treat them the same. Of course, the untrained personnel (not to name anybody I might or might not be married to) also can make this mistake... Rest assured that your older MB engines will survive the experience, though they won't be happy about it. Those inline Bosch pumps are quite hardy. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Happy Thanksgiving, especially Wilton
Maybebut not that one. He'd have to lowered in by a jib crane. Bob R Who had a '72 Mazda Wagon On Nov 24, 2011 8:38 AM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: Can't you just imagine Wilton cruising around town in a rotary engined Mazda RX-8? http://uncomm.com/web/rx8_**donk.jpg http://uncomm.com/web/rx8_donk.jpg __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Happy Thanksgiving, especially Wilton
Wow. That is the biggest waste of time and money I think I have ever seen. Mike ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Trans upgrades
Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com writes: Can anybody be more specific about what you do in the K1 procedure? The old mbz.org site has a write-up. http://articles.mbz.org/transmission/k1/ The pics have gone missing. We went through this a couple of months ago and someone on the list had copies of the images. You could search the archives, if you don't believe the malware warnings from Google. Allan -- 1983 300D 1979 300SD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Happy Thanksgiving!
Happy Turkey Day to all. Gonna gain a few pounds today for sure. Big hearty breakfast of homemade sausage gravy and biscuits cooked on the wood stove to start the day. No kids home today, all gone to other parents this year so making a small dinner of smoked turkey breast, potatoes and corn.m good! Mike ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Happy Thanksgiving!
On Thu, 24 Nov 2011 07:43:37 -0600 Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: Happy Thanksgiving to all! And to you, as well! Since our kitchen is torn up (we are part-way through a kitchen remodel), we are going to some friends' house. Hopefully, the kitchen will be done by Christmas. Then we can have turkey and make turkey vegetable soup from the left-overs, which has become a day-after-Thanksgiving tradition at our house. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Happy Thanksgiving!
Yup, never throw away those turkey bones! Toast them in the oven till lightly browned, simmer overnight (do not boil) and you have wonderful turkey broth to make soup with. Veggie soup is great after a day of gorging Peter On Nov 24, 2011, at 10:02 AM, Craig wrote: On Thu, 24 Nov 2011 07:43:37 -0600 Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: Happy Thanksgiving to all! And to you, as well! Since our kitchen is torn up (we are part-way through a kitchen remodel), we are going to some friends' house. Hopefully, the kitchen will be done by Christmas. Then we can have turkey and make turkey vegetable soup from the left-overs, which has become a day-after-Thanksgiving tradition at our house. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Happy Thanksgiving!
I've got the second of two loaves of bread just about done. A third will be baked tonight for tomorrow. Happy Thanksgiving all! -Curt Date: Thu, 24 Nov 2011 08:59:59 -0600 From: Peter Frederick psf...@earthlink.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Happy Thanksgiving! Message-ID: 77a96cd9-19b9-40d0-80b8-a52e185ae...@earthlink.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Got up at 5 and put the turkey in, gonna be too much food again this year! Happy thanksgiving! Peter On Nov 24, 2011, at 7:43 AM, Dieselhead wrote: Happy Thanksgiving to all! I am off to fry Portuguese donuts ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Trans upgrades
Actually thats what I meant. I didn't want to go right to M1 not knowing how long it had been since the previous change so I had conventional put in and figured to run it for a short time to move any crud out. -Curt Date: Thu, 24 Nov 2011 09:43:05 -0600 From: Peter Frederick psf...@earthlink.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Trans upgrades Message-ID: 2150a39e-ab24-44ae-a504-6461286a0...@earthlink.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed If you drain the torque converter you will remove nearly all the old fluid -- what's left is in the valve body, servos, and pump. Less than a quart, probably no more than a pint or so, and can be ignored. The fluid change 15k ago did a nice flush job for you. Peter On Nov 24, 2011, at 9:22 AM, Curt Raymond wrote: Can anybody be more specific about what you do in the K1 procedure? I'm taking the week after Christmas off and lining up my jobs. Figuring on a trans service with M1. Car has ~175,000 miles with dubious maintenance previously. I had my Indy do the trans fluid and filter 15k ago with just conventional fluid which I'm considering a flush... -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Fuel Monkeys
Yeahbut I had a basically empty tank (rotten seller) and would have had a full full tank of gasoline 450 miles from home. As it was the entire exhaust system fell off 5 minutes later... -Curt Date: Thu, 24 Nov 2011 07:49:16 -0800 From: Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Fuel Monkeys Message-ID: dd392fe7-16b3-11e1-9b66-000502d9a...@windwireless.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Diesel fuel. Gasoline! I haven't noticed anything this blatant in Oregon, which also legislates that you be 'helped' by 'trained' personnel. (Personally I think that the training, if there is indeed any, consists of knowing where the fuel cutoff switch is, and the spill cleanup kit.) I think I've actually fueled my own diesels a few times in OR, I seem to remember that one of the attendants told me that the law only applied to gasoline, though most places treat them the same. Of course, the untrained personnel (not to name anybody I might or might not be married to) also can make this mistake... Rest assured that your older MB engines will survive the experience, though they won't be happy about it. Those inline Bosch pumps are quite hardy. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W116 electrical gremlins
Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu wrote: The dash lights on my 300SD are significantly brighter than on my 300D. Maybe a PO installed overwattage bulbs?? That would be a bad thing, higher bulb temperature will melt the plastic optics. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300, '87 300TD ___ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Happy Thanksgiving!
Peter Frederick psf...@earthlink.net wrote: Got up at 5 and put the turkey in, gonna be too much food again this year! Me too! SWMBO wanted the bird done early this year. Rotisserie, yummy. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300, '87 300TD ___ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Trans upgrades
Happy Thanksgiving to all who celebrate it, The best description of the K1 I found was here; www.benzworld.org/forums/w201-190-class/1361737-diy-mercedes-722-3-722-4-a.html The description was exactly on, I did it about 6 weeks ago on my youngest daughter's 190e and after removing and cleaning the valve body. Long story but I ended up replacing the transmission anyway with one from the pick-n-pull and swapping out the valve body again. Apologies to those who dislike top posting :-) David Liddell '77 240d '85 190e Some Volvos Some boats Some Chevrolets -- Message: 5 Date: Thu, 24 Nov 2011 07:22:15 -0800 (PST) From: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com To: Diesel List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Trans upgrades Message-ID: 1322148135.85505.yahoomailclas...@web161012.mail.bf1.yahoo.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Can anybody be more specific about what you do in the K1 procedure? I'm taking the week after Christmas off and lining up my jobs. Figuring on a trans service with M1. Car has ~175,000 miles with dubious maintenance previously. I had my Indy do the trans fluid and filter 15k ago with just conventional fluid which I'm considering a flush... ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Happy Thanksgiving!
Love the rotisserie! Got a little elecric oven with one built in. Works perfect. Cooking the turkey breast with it today. Mike ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Trans upgrades
benZworld.org had a writeup with photos Sent from my iPhone On Nov 24, 2011, at 9:59 AM, Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu wrote: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com writes: Can anybody be more specific about what you do in the K1 procedure? The old mbz.org site has a write-up. http://articles.mbz.org/transmission/k1/ The pics have gone missing. We went through this a couple of months ago and someone on the list had copies of the images. You could search the archives, if you don't believe the malware warnings from Google. Allan -- 1983 300D 1979 300SD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Fuel Monkeys
On Nov 24, 2011 7:46 AM, Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net wrote: Diesel fuel. Gasoline! I haven't noticed anything this blatant in Oregon, Neither have I, in ten years or so of driving diesels in Oregon. It helps to seek out stations where you see a lot of full-size pickups being fueled, since presumably a decent fraction of those are klatta-ers. (Get fresher fuel that way, too.) Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Happy Thanksgiving!
Y'all have a good day. Eat lots, and be safe. Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Happy Thanksgiving!
On Thu, 24 Nov 2011 10:06:45 -0600 Peter Frederick psf...@earthlink.net wrote: Yup, never throw away those turkey bones! Toast them in the oven till lightly browned, Now that's something I had not heard before. simmer overnight (do not boil) and you have wonderful turkey broth to make soup with. Veggie soup is great after a day of gorging I have typically put a lot of the left-over turkey meat in, too. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] mixing diesel and gasoline
Happy Thanksgiving to all. Got a question. I am presuming that Jim's comment Rest assured that your older MB engines will survive the experience, though they won't be happy about it. Those inline Bosch pumps are quite hardy refers to mixing gas with diesel in a diesel engine. Forgive me if I misunderstood what he meant. ( His comment about the Bosch pump makes me wonder if I understood correctly). This reminded me of an incident a number years ago in the previous century. I had been told that introducing even a small amount of gasoline into the diesel fuel would result in a violent explosion in the cylinders that could do catastrophic damage to the engine, especially the pistons. Well one day shortly after I refueled the car, my wife called from about 10 miles away to tell me that the 82 240D was running exceptionally bad. I drove down in the other vehicle, traded vehicles with her and drove the diesel home. It run unusually rough, bucked, and jerked all the way home. In my appalling ignorance at the time, I tried racing the engine, driving fast, and a few other abusive tactics. The next day, I took it to a shop and was told they smelled gas at the filler cap, so they drained the tank. I was horrifed to find that there was gas in the fuel. Couldn't believe I had filled the tank with gas. When I asked the tech how much damage likely was done, his comment was that I was lucky that most of the fuel was gas. This made no sense to me. Maybe he meant that a small amount of gas might not have been noticeable and would have done more damage over time? The car suvived the experience. I never noticed any aftereffects, even years later. This leads me to wonder about what does happen if gas gets in the diesel fuel. Doesn't sound like it is catastrophic. What do you think? Jerry 82 240D (Has suffered abuse) __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 6656 (2024) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Happy Thanksgiving dieselers
Happy Thanksgiving folks, don't eat too much, and don't forget what the day is supposed to be about . . . and it's NOT football. G. M. Brown Brevard, NC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Happy Thanksgiving!
Thanks for all the friendship and support from this eclectic group. For the first time since our first child was born, one of them is hosting dinner today! Our contribution of rolls is just coming out of the oven (pies were done last night). On Thu, Nov 24, 2011 at 10:02 AM, Craig diese...@pisquared.net wrote: On Thu, 24 Nov 2011 07:43:37 -0600 Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: Happy Thanksgiving to all! And to you, as well! Craig OK Don 2001 ML320 1992 300D 2.5T 1990 300D 2.5T 1997 Plymouth Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Happy Thanksgiving dieselers
My tv won't even be turned on today unless it's to watch a movie with my girl this evening. I qm being thankful for the nice weather and getting a little work done on my truck. Mike On Nov 24, 2011 1:21 PM, glenn brown g_010...@hotmail.com wrote: Happy Thanksgiving folks, don't eat too much, and don't forget what the day is supposed to be about . . . and it's NOT football. G. M. Brown Brevard, NC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Happy Thanksgiving!
For the first time since our first child was born, one of them is hosting dinner today! Now that is sure something to be thankful for! Must be a wonderful feeling. I can't wait.. Mike ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] mixing diesel and gasoline
told that introducing even a small amount of gasoline into the diesel fuel would result in a violent explosion in the cylinders that could do catastrophic damage to the engine, especially the pistons. Can't explode violently, there's no mixture except at the flame front. Might burn hotter than intended, so at full fueling it might well do damage. But it runs so bad that this is unlikely, IMHO. My guess is that the reason it runs so badly is that the injectors are designed for the viscosity of diesel fuel, and it just doesn't work right with gasoline. This leads me to wonder about what does happen if gas gets in the diesel fuel. Doesn't sound like it is catastrophic. What do you think? For rotary pumps that are lubricated by the fuel, it is indeed catastrophic. For the inlines, largely lubed by engine oil, not so bad. Remember that in the _owner's manual_, older MB's recommended up to 25% gasoline for severe winter duty as a thinner. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W116 electrical gremlins
On Nov 23, 2011 2:12 PM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: Actually I think the best thing that came out of that whole discussion was Jim's post about clipping posts. I think you are right. I learned to try to trim my posts more. .. They were expensive, and should have a long life so I intend to move them to the other car which will also give me an excuse to fix the speedo needle which is 5mph too slow. Is there an adjustment for that or what? Mine is off as well. Odometer doesn't work either, is there a fix for that too or just deal with it? Mike ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Fuel Monkeys
I had a friend in PDX who was DM for BP in the late 80's. They do train the monkeys, but not very well. It is a dead end job and is mostly taken by crackheads between detox stints, or single mothers with many kids. If you hang around long enough you get to move inside to the cash register. That is where the moms were. AS for diesel, you pump your own. The monkeys will take your charge card and make sure you are rung up, but will not pump it, because they were not trained on it and the trucking folks had the law written to exempt them from the pump jockey silliness. clay On Nov 24, 2011, at 7:49 AM, Jim Cathey wrote: Diesel fuel. Gasoline! I haven't noticed anything this blatant in Oregon, which also legislates that you be 'helped' by 'trained' personnel. (Personally I think that the training, if there is indeed any, consists of knowing where the fuel cutoff switch is, and the spill cleanup kit.) I think I've actually fueled my own diesels a few times in OR, I seem to remember that one of the attendants told me that the law only applied to gasoline, though most places treat them the same. Of course, the untrained personnel (not to name anybody I might or might not be married to) also can make this mistake... Rest assured that your older MB engines will survive the experience, though they won't be happy about it. Those inline Bosch pumps are quite hardy. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] mixing diesel and gasoline
Owner manual for Gump called for using kero for low temp fuel flow, or, if none were to be had, to use about a gallon of 87 octane to thin out the full tank. Just trying to lower the gel point, and petrol does a fine job. When I was doing B100, I was using petrol, since the lines would gel up once temps went below 45*F clay On Nov 24, 2011, at 10:05 AM, Jerry Herrman wrote: Happy Thanksgiving to all. Got a question. I am presuming that Jim's comment Rest assured that your older MB engines will survive the experience, though they won't be happy about it. Those inline Bosch pumps are quite hardy refers to mixing gas with diesel in a diesel engine. Forgive me if I misunderstood what he meant. ( His comment about the Bosch pump makes me wonder if I understood correctly). This reminded me of an incident a number years ago in the previous century. I had been told that introducing even a small amount of gasoline into the diesel fuel would result in a violent explosion in the cylinders that could do catastrophic damage to the engine, especially the pistons. Well one day shortly after I refueled the car, my wife called from about 10 miles away to tell me that the 82 240D was running exceptionally bad. I drove down in the other vehicle, traded vehicles with her and drove the diesel home. It run unusually rough, bucked, and jerked all the way home. In my appalling ignorance at the time, I tried racing the engine, driving fast, and a few other abusive tactics. The next day, I took it to a shop and was told they smelled gas at the filler cap, so they drained the tank. I was horrifed to find that there was gas in the fuel. Couldn't believe I had filled the tank with gas. When I asked the tech how much damage likely was done, his comment was that I was lucky that most of the fuel was gas. This made no sense to me. Maybe he meant that a small amount of gas might not have been noticeable and would have done more damage over time? The car suvived the experience. I never noticed any aftereffects, even years later. This leads me to wonder about what does happen if gas gets in the diesel fuel. Doesn't sound like it is catastrophic. What do you think? Jerry 82 240D (Has suffered abuse) __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 6656 (2024) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Happy Thanksgiving!
Michael Canfield slozuk...@gmail.com wrote: Love the rotisserie! Got a little elecric oven with one built in. Works perfect. Cooking the turkey breast with it today. Just finished, our rotisserie turkey was incredibly moist and tasty, I'll always use this method given a choice. Wife marinated the bird overnight using mix of cooking sherry and beer and rosemary and more -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300, '87 300TD ___ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Happy Thanksgiving!
Malassadas Portugee donut/beniet, Hawaiian style This year is Agnes' style, as in: http://www.agnesbakeshop.com/Agnes_Portuguese_Bake_Shop/Home_Page.html Fried gluten free malassadas from 7:30 to 8:30 then Agnes style from 8:30 until 12:30 Then regrouped and tried tom turkey Then fried White sweet potato Fries Then sat down and had Turkey, green bean casserole, sweet potato fries and organic JK Scrumpy to drink Good! Truly American mixed up culture, American, Portuguese, Hawaiian, southern, african, french, And MEN organic etc. Malazadas or fillozes? I'm getting the turkey ready to go in the oven Happy Thanksgiving to all, even those outside the States! Dan Sent from my iPhone On Nov 24, 2011, at 8:43 AM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: Happy Thanksgiving to all! I am off to fry Portuguese donuts ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W116 electrical gremlins
Some year I need to solder a hot wire to the left light terminal on the 81 240D. I think it has been out the whole time i've had the car. Sounds like I should try stuffing in some alum foil at that time. Can someone elaborate on this? Is it just roll up a 1 x 1 1/4 square of foil and put it in the hole, then stuff the bulb in or is there some complex procedure? I have never noticed light pipes in the 123 cluster, but it has been 10+ years since I had one out. The 124 and 126 use fiber optics to move light around. On 110 and 111, I have turned the light down sometimes, but they were always well lit. The 123 is barely lit enough at best. With one light out, you can barely read the speedo, and you have to pull out a flashlight to read the fuel gauge. On 124 and 126, I leave the light turned up, but always is adequate. Re: lined the light chamber and the light pipes with aluminum foil, now it gets adequately bright I did the same in both my '84 300D '85 300TD and it makes a world of difference. G. M. Brown Brevard, NC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Happy Thanksgiving, especially Wilton
I saw a 280Z on the loose last night. Have not seen one of them for years. Can't you just imagine Wilton cruising around town in a rotary engined Mazda RX-8? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Happy Thanksgiving!
Y'all have a good day. Eat lots, and be safe. Randy Don't ya just love how those southerners talk! wink ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W116 electrical gremlins
Can someone elaborate on this? Is it just roll up a 1 x 1 1/4 square of foil and put it in the hole, then stuff the bulb in You remove the back part so you can get access, and make a square collar that fits in the hole and yet doesn't get into the wiring. There are plastic covers on the light pipes, you pop those off and wrap the light pipe in aluminum foil, then re-secure the assembly. It's fairly obvious once you're in there. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W116 electrical gremlins
The 123 is barely lit enough at best. With one light out, you can barely read the speedo, and you have to pull out a flashlight to read the fuel gauge. With this operation, and both lamps working, you can even read both odometers. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] mixing diesel and gasoline
The old tale about never have gasoline around Diesel was true for American Diesels built before 1975 or so. They did not not explode, but they would blow the head bolts loose, and if you ever hears a vw with loose heads in the 70s, multiply that by the ratio of the displacement difference (1600CC vs___) and you can imagine the racket made people say it was a violent explosion. Our MBs, as Clay pointed out, are stronger, and can be successfully run on up to 25% petrol/Benzin/gasoline successfully. (iron heads only) The guy who used to do IP and nozzle work for me had seen many Diesels with the heads loosened by gasoline, and he would not allow a drop of gasoline near his shop. Not even to clean parts. Happy Thanksgiving to all. Got a question. I am presuming that Jim's comment Rest assured that your older MB engines will survive the experience, though they won't be happy about it. Those inline Bosch pumps are quite hardy refers to mixing gas with diesel in a diesel engine. Forgive me if I misunderstood what he meant. ( His comment about the Bosch pump makes me wonder if I understood correctly). This reminded me of an incident a number years ago in the previous century. I had been told that introducing even a small amount of gasoline into the diesel fuel would result in a violent explosion in the cylinders that could do catastrophic damage to the engine, especially the pistons. Well one day shortly after I refueled the car, my wife called from about 10 miles away to tell me that the 82 240D was running exceptionally bad. I drove down in the other vehicle, traded vehicles with her and drove the diesel home. It run unusually rough, bucked, and jerked all the way home. In my appalling ignorance at the time, I tried racing the engine, driving fast, and a few other abusive tactics. The next day, I took it to a shop and was told they smelled gas at the filler cap, so they drained the tank. I was horrifed to find that there was gas in the fuel. Couldn't believe I had filled the tank with gas. When I asked the tech how much damage likely was done, his comment was that I was lucky that most of the fuel was gas. This made no sense to me. Maybe he meant that a small amount of gas might not have been noticeable and would have done more damage over time? The car suvived the experience. I never noticed any aftereffects, even years later. This leads me to wonder about what does happen if gas gets in the diesel fuel. Doesn't sound like it is catastrophic. What do you think? Jerry 82 240D (Has suffered abuse) __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 6656 (2024) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W116 electrical gremlins
WooHoo! what a deal!! With this operation, and both lamps working, you can even read both odometers. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W116 electrical gremlins
I had the speedo out last year to fix the odo (slipping gear, fixed with a drop of glue) and forgot to mark the position of the speedo needle when I took it off. Now it reads 5mph high at all speeds (MB speedos are pretty accurate). So I need to take it back out, mark the position measure the distance of 5mph, mark that off lower than the mark where the speedo rests (after being lifted over the stop peg) and reset the needle there. I'm lucky its exactly 5mph... It could be somebody fixed yours in the past and did the same thing. The odo is actually pretty easy to fix, just lots of little gears to get back into place depending on how much you take it apart. Remember to clean 'em while you're there. Its also good practice to note the exact mileage when you take it apart so you can get it back together the same. In my case I actually rolled on about 20k to account for Dwight driving the car for a couple years with a busted odo. -Curt Date: Thu, 24 Nov 2011 14:46:06 -0500 From: Michael Canfield slozuk...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] W116 electrical gremlins Message-ID: calhj_1ctmdhlxvosg+s+9kywnm-hkj4nlzrqrupkjuxegjd...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Nov 23, 2011 2:12 PM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: Actually I think the best thing that came out of that whole discussion was Jim's post about clipping posts. I think you are right. I learned to try to trim my posts more. .. They were expensive, and should have a long life so I intend to move them to the other car which will also give me an excuse to fix the speedo needle which is 5mph too slow. Is there an adjustment for that or what? Mine is off as well. Odometer doesn't work either, is there a fix for that too or just deal with it? Mike ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W116 electrical gremlins
Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net writes: There are plastic covers on the light pipes, you pop those off and wrap the light pipe in aluminum foil, then re-secure the assembly. What about painting with silver/metallic paint? Anyone tried that? Allan -- 1983 300D 1979 300SD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W116 electrical gremlins
While you're at it you can make the box around the light solid again in the case where some fool has used the hotter bulbs and melted some of the plastic. Somebody musta done something it on my '78 240D as the box was melted just like on my '83. A big hint its been done is if the light leaks over into the turn signal indicator. -Curt Date: Thu, 24 Nov 2011 17:23:35 -0800 From: Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] W116 electrical gremlins Message-ID: 18446a8c-1704-11e1-9b66-000502d9a...@windwireless.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Can someone elaborate on this? Is it just roll up a 1 x 1 1/4 square of foil and put it in the hole, then stuff the bulb in You remove the back part so you can get access, and make a square collar that fits in the hole and yet doesn't get into the wiring. There are plastic covers on the light pipes, you pop those off and wrap the light pipe in aluminum foil, then re-secure the assembly. It's fairly obvious once you're in there. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] mixing diesel and gasoline
My Dad was down on diesels since the '70s when one of his chowderhead drinking buddies ran his diesel pickup (probably a GM350) out of fuel and used gasoline instead even though kerosene was available. Apparently they got just a few miles before the engine refused to go any farther. My MB's have started to change his mind. -Curt Date: Thu, 24 Nov 2011 19:22:32 -0600 From: Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] mixing diesel and gasoline Message-ID: a062408aacaf49c7c33ff@[192.168.1.53] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii ; format=flowed The old tale about never have gasoline around Diesel was true for American Diesels built before 1975 or so. They did not not explode, but they would blow the head bolts loose, and if you ever hears a vw with loose heads in the 70s, multiply that by the ratio of the displacement difference (1600CC vs___) and you can imagine the racket made people say it was a violent explosion. Our MBs, as Clay pointed out, are stronger, and can be successfully run on up to 25% petrol/Benzin/gasoline successfully. (iron heads only) The guy who used to do IP and nozzle work for me had seen many Diesels with the heads loosened by gasoline, and he would not allow a drop of gasoline near his shop. Not even to clean parts. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] mixing diesel and gasoline
My Dad was down on diesels since the '70s when one of his chowderhead drinking buddies ran his diesel pickup (probably a GM350) out of fuel and used gasoline instead even though kerosene was available. Apparently they got just a few miles before the engine refused to go any farther. My MB's have started to change his mind. The Shovey used a roosamaster pump. Those do NOT like gasoline. Dieselized gas engine is a dumb idea too. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] 300td travel
Folks i've just done some epic travel in my 82 300td. Two weeks ago, i dragged a 1500 lb letterpress from athens, ga to charleston, sc. behind the 300td on a trailer Then last weekend, i dragged a 1050 lb press from athens to Tulsa, ok, delivered that. Then i went to OK City and picked up another 1050 lb press and dragged it back to athens. Two days later, i drove 240 miles down to Tybee Island, GA. All of this was done running WVO. I hauled all the fuel along, as well. It was unexpectedly cold in OK on Sunday (not in the forecast), so i put in a few gallons of diesel and about a gallon of gas to lower the viscosity. No real problems at all on any of the trips. I even ran the AC on part of the OK trip, but my heater was erratic . it would come on for a few minutes and then go cold ideas? mono valve? something else I did resolder the heater control a few years ago Yes, i have a lot to be thankful for. thanks, xx rick Rick Hawkins www.javaphoto.com www.javacycles.com LETTERPRESSES FOR SALE www.ricktheprinter.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 300td travel
heater was erratic . it would come on for a few minutes and then go cold ideas? mono valve? something else Monovalve. Esp if the MIN/MAX settings don't make a difference. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W116 electrical gremlins
So I need to take it back out, mark the position measure the distance of 5mph, mark that off lower than the mark where the speedo rests (after being lifted over the stop peg) and reset the needle there. It's easier than that. If you look at the outside of the face, beyond the bezel (when it's out) you'll find a paint mark on it. That's where the needle is put on, then you lift it over the peg. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] TPMS
...Way to eliminate frivioulous law suits. Make the Idiot consumer pay up front. Way to go Federalis... If you will think a minute How many times have you rolled along in traffic and observed an underinflated rear tire on the Explorer (or similar) in front of you. Driven by someone who can manage to pump their own gas but NEVER check tire pressures. See it every day. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] TPMS
...Total cost is ~$250 for an aftermarket setup, oem offerings were usually in the uplevel option packages before they were mandated... When they became mandatory they became standard equipment. My car has one per wheel and they are US made. They have caused a few warranty claims and no thinking person would pay MB prices but when I mounted a set of Nokian winter tires on my spare wheels, I paid Tire Rack about 70 bucks each for a set. They are drop-in replaceent for a standard valve core with an o-ring inside and a fixing nut on the outside. I took home a 2011 C-300 Sport service loaner recently and it could display all four pressure readings at the same time. These thing have caused more confusion among the uninformed than which Oil? RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] TPMS
...Guess my 2007 S550 must have the only prototype installed then. Push message, Tire inflation and there it is in the speedo cluster. If there is a problem, it shows up first thing after starting the car... They were installed on some high-end cars before they became mandatory in 2008. And the earlier systems were troublesome, according to my dealer. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] TPMS
A complete waste of time brought along for ninnys who can't be bothered to just check the dammed tire pressure. Any mileage gains they make by having tires aired up is lost by the added weight of the system... Piffle. I doubt you have ever held one of the sensors in your paw and have no real idea how they work.. AND, the ninnys are out there in the millions. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] mixing diesel and gasoline
He's lucky. I had a co-worker who had an Olds with the converted Diesel 350. He ran out of fuel about a half of mile from our heliport, Rather than walking to our hanger and getting a gal of JP4 he poured about 2 gal of gas he had in a can in the trunk (it was for the base mower). Cranked up the Olds put it in gear and started to accelerate. BIG Kaboom ensued. I was on the flight line doing a preflight and heard it. About 10 min later he comes walking up to get help to tow the car to the base. Right hand head had blown off and put a dent in the hood. GM had just replaced the under warranty. That was one of GM's stupid ideas that gave diesels a bad name. Russ W. On 11/24/2011 8:04 PM, Curt Raymond wrote: My Dad was down on diesels since the '70s when one of his chowderhead drinking buddies ran his diesel pickup (probably a GM350) out of fuel and used gasoline instead even though kerosene was available. Apparently they got just a few miles before the engine refused to go any farther. My MB's have started to change his mind. -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 300td travel
So you passed right by okiebenz international and did not stop by? Sent from my iPhone On Nov 24, 2011, at 10:05 PM, Rick Hawkins Java macj...@aol.com wrote: Folks i've just done some epic travel in my 82 300td. Two weeks ago, i dragged a 1500 lb letterpress from athens, ga to charleston, sc. behind the 300td on a trailer Then last weekend, i dragged a 1050 lb press from athens to Tulsa, ok, delivered that. Then i went to OK City and picked up another 1050 lb press and dragged it back to athens. Two days later, i drove 240 miles down to Tybee Island, GA. All of this was done running WVO. I hauled all the fuel along, as well. It was unexpectedly cold in OK on Sunday (not in the forecast), so i put in a few gallons of diesel and about a gallon of gas to lower the viscosity. No real problems at all on any of the trips. I even ran the AC on part of the OK trip, but my heater was erratic . it would come on for a few minutes and then go cold ideas? mono valve? something else I did resolder the heater control a few years ago Yes, i have a lot to be thankful for. thanks, xx rick Rick Hawkins www.javaphoto.com www.javacycles.com LETTERPRESSES FOR SALE www.ricktheprinter.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W116 electrical gremlins
On 11/24/2011 6:53 PM, Dieselhead wrote: Some year I need to solder a hot wire to the left light terminal on the 81 240D. I think it has been out the whole time i've had the car. Sounds like I should try stuffing in some alum foil at that time. Can someone elaborate on this? Is it just roll up a 1 x 1 1/4 square of foil and put it in the hole, then stuff the bulb in or is there some complex procedure? On the top of the cluster you will see two channels with covers over them. Carefully Remove the covers using a small flat bladed screwdriver. This will expose the light pipes. You can use Alum Foil or better yet a strip from a Mylar Balloon, I've done both of my 240's one each way. The Mylar works better. Use a drop of Super Glue on each end to secure the mylar or foil to the light pipe. Then use hot glue to secure the covers and change out the bulbs while you are in there. One of the 240's the bulbs were black. Makes a world of difference. SWMBO Stopped complaining she couldn'r read the gauges at night after the mod. Her car got the foil mine got the mylar a few months later. She noticed the difference between the two mods. Mylar baloons can be acquired at Dollar Tree for a buck and you don't have to have the filled. Doesn't what printing the balloon has on it the inside is a shiny silver. If you use foil remember to put the shiny side against the pipe. Russ W. I have never noticed light pipes in the 123 cluster, but it has been 10+ years since I had one out. The 124 and 126 use fiber optics to move light around. On 110 and 111, I have turned the light down sometimes, but they were always well lit. The 123 is barely lit enough at best. With one light out, you can barely read the speedo, and you have to pull out a flashlight to read the fuel gauge. On 124 and 126, I leave the light turned up, but always is adequate. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 300td travel
On Nov 24, 2011 8:21 PM, Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net wrote: heater was erratic . it would come on for a few minutes and then go cold ideas? mono valve? something else Monovalve. Esp if the MIN/MAX settings don't make a difference. -- Jim Could that also be the case with a 124 with the same symptoms? Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] ok travel
I guess i DID pass by you, Kaleb. Where are you exactly? I went from I-40 through Muskogee (slept there) then Sun afternoon to tulsa where i unloaded the press in the freezing cold about 37, not as predicted. Then i drove in the cold rain to norman, ok where we loaded the machine i bought there. Then i high tailed it back to Ft Smith AR where the weather was warm again. I didn't want to get stranded on the unheated WVO I would have hung around if it had been warm Plus i had to get back to georgia to drive down to Tybee island for thanksgiving!! thanks, xx rick Rick Hawkins www.javaphoto.com www.javacycles.com LETTERPRESSES FOR SALE www.ricktheprinter.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Happy Thanksgiving!
Gee thanks Dan, makes me feel special that you remembered us on turkey day. Never quite understood the concept of giving thanks by consuming vast quantities of food but I don't understand a lot of things. Hendrik who is cooking tonight but not turkey Dan Penoff wrote: Malazadas or fillozes? I'm getting the turkey ready to go in the oven Happy Thanksgiving to all, even those outside the States! Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 300td travel
Could that also be the case with a 124 with the same symptoms? Do 124's have monovalves? I don't own one. I know 201's don't have them. They, and late 126's don't have an override on the MIN/MAX detents, the brain is in charge at all times. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
