Re: [MBZ] Is it bad for my w123 300DT to go 80mph

2012-05-22 Thread andrew strasfogel
I have never heard of a 123 turbo engine that expired prematurely (whatever that means - 300K miles?) because the owner drove it too slowly. On 5/22/12, Michael Canfield slozuk...@gmail.com wrote: This is how my 300d survives on wvo...I run the crap out of it. It is to the floor and run

Re: [MBZ] Is it bad for my w123 300DT to go 80mph

2012-05-22 Thread Rick Knoble
On May 22, 2012, at 9:12 AM, andrew strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: have never heard of a 123 turbo engine that expired prematurely (whatever that means - 300K miles?) because the owner drove it too slowly. Did you mean too fast? I imagine carbon, from being driven too slowly has

Re: [MBZ] Is it bad for my w123 300DT to go 80mph

2012-05-22 Thread andrew strasfogel
No, I meant too slow. I am against excessive speeding to burn off carbon, or for any other reason for that matter, unless you're at the track... Anderw 1983 300TD 1985 300TD 1985 300CD (SWMBO mobile) On 5/22/12, Rick Knoble rickkno...@hotmail.com wrote: On May 22, 2012, at 9:12 AM, andrew

[MBZ] Anyone have a first aid kit or lid?

2012-05-22 Thread andrew strasfogel
In attempting to access the fuel tank sending unit, we accidentally cracked the first aid kit in our 1985 300CD. If anyone has a spare I would be happy to offer 6 or more heirloom tomato seedlings. Andrew ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go

Re: [MBZ] Is it bad for my w123 300DT to go 80mph

2012-05-22 Thread Walt Zarnoch
So yo never, ever, EVER pass? I routinely have to hit over the speed limit when some bozo doing 40 in a 55 decides to become Mr butthurt racer! and floors it as I go to pass. Same idiots get MASSIVELY pissed at me when I go the speed limit in the 30 zone after the 55... they want to go 45... Mind

Re: [MBZ] Is it bad for my w123 300DT to go 80mph

2012-05-22 Thread Randy Bennell
I am getting lost on this thread. Andrew is against speeding? Walt is not?? There must be lots of places where 80 mph is reasonably legitimate. The speed limit in North Dakota between the Cdn border and Grand Forks is 75 mph. If I run the limit, I generally get passed but most of these folks

Re: [MBZ] fix one thing and sumthin' else breaks

2012-05-22 Thread Randy Bennell
Is that you Marshall, pretending to be Jim? Randy On 22/05/2012 12:07 AM, Jim Cathey wrote: Anyone have a good beginning point to start the trouble shooting? Didst thou check thy fuses? -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go

Re: [MBZ] Is it bad for my w123 300DT to go 80mph

2012-05-22 Thread Walt Zarnoch
I'm against people who go 10 to 15 under without their hazard flashers on, which is required in NY. If said people break 80 when you try to pass them because of it, it compounds the matter. Do I fall back and deal with a jerk who's going to keep brake checking me at every opportunity, or keep the

Re: [MBZ] Is it bad for my w123 300DT to go 80mph

2012-05-22 Thread WILTON
Just cruised back and forth to Raleigh ('bout 120 mi. round trip) on the '87 300D at 75-80. 'Cruises mighty fine. Wilton - Original Message - From: Brian Toscano brian.tosc...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, May 21, 2012 10:45 PM Subject:

[MBZ] 124 kickdown switch

2012-05-22 Thread WILTON
'Noticed when I tried Italian tune-up entering I-795 this morning on the '87 300D, kick down didn't work. After changing tranny fluid, etc., Indy said kick down switch is not getting power from neutral safety switch - 'didn't have time to investigate more this trip. Comments/ideas? Wilton

Re: [MBZ] 124 kickdown switch

2012-05-22 Thread Mitch Haley
Did you replace all your fuses? Does the neutral safety switch work as intended? Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery

Re: [MBZ] Anyone have a first aid kit or lid?

2012-05-22 Thread Dimitri Seretakis
Don't have a spare but I used crazy glue on the handle of the FA kit on a w116 and it worked like a charm and held up for many years. Sent from my iPhone On May 22, 2012, at 11:33 AM, andrew strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: In attempting to access the fuel tank sending unit, we

Re: [MBZ] Is it bad for my w123 300DT to go 80mph

2012-05-22 Thread Brian Toscano
The speed limit on I-10 in Far West Texas is posted at 80PH last time I drove it, and there was talk of changing it to 85 MPH. I'm not sure if that went through. There is nothing but sand for 500 miles between San Antonio and El Paso. On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 10:59 AM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com

Re: [MBZ] Is it bad for my w123 300DT to go 80mph

2012-05-22 Thread Brian Toscano
Utah I-15 is also posted at 80 MPH in parts. I'm told they don't bother you unless the radar reads in the triple digits, but I've never tried... On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 12:20 PM, Brian Toscano brian.tosc...@gmail.comwrote: The speed limit on I-10 in Far West Texas is posted at 80PH last time

Re: [MBZ] Anyone have a first aid kit or lid?

2012-05-22 Thread Rich Thomas
I bought a new one a coupla years ago, I think it was like $25. More than some priceless tomato plants! --R On 5/22/12 2:05 PM, Dimitri Seretakis wrote: Don't have a spare but I used crazy glue on the handle of the FA kit on a w116 and it worked like a charm and held up for many years.

Re: [MBZ] 124 kickdown switch

2012-05-22 Thread WILTON
'Haven't replaced all the fuses in 4 or 5 years. 'Never had any problem starting, etc. 'Course, don't think I've ever tried to start it in any position other than PARK. Wilton - Original Message - From: Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net To: Mercedes Discussion List

Re: [MBZ] Is it bad for my w123 300DT to go 80mph

2012-05-22 Thread WILTON
Sand can make a good cushion or speed reduction medium if one runs off into it. Sand reminds me: In about '76 family and I were northbound on I-15 between Victorville, CA, an Las Vegas in a sand storm. 'Had been in left lane; visibility got really bad; I said aloud, I better stay in right

Re: [MBZ] Anyone have a first aid kit or lid?

2012-05-22 Thread andrew strasfogel
They are NLA according to my professional technical advisor. On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 2:52 PM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: I bought a new one a coupla years ago, I think it was like $25.  More than some priceless tomato plants! --R On 5/22/12 2:05 PM, Dimitri

Re: [MBZ] Anyone have a first aid kit or lid?

2012-05-22 Thread andrew strasfogel
My tomato plants may be priceless but they are not valueless. One dozen are exactly equal in value to one new W123 first aid kit lid. :) On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 2:52 PM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: I bought a new one a coupla years ago, I think it was like $25.  More

Re: [MBZ] fix one thing and sumthin' else breaks

2012-05-22 Thread John Freer
Naw, Marshall said to REPLACE the fuses, not check them. And, he was correct. John On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 9:27 AM, Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca wrote: Is that you Marshall, pretending to be Jim? Randy On 22/05/2012 12:07 AM, Jim Cathey wrote: Anyone have a good beginning point to

Re: [MBZ] continuing saga of the broken W116 door latch handle

2012-05-22 Thread Allan Streib
Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com writes: K'leb should Which 123 handle do you need? I have extra RF inside handles. The LF, I had to buy one from Q ~10 years ago, when they still sold them for normal money. Yeah, right front (passenger side in North America). This is the chome latch

Re: [MBZ] continuing saga of the broken W116 door latch handle

2012-05-22 Thread Allan Streib
Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com writes: Short history: the passenger door on my 300SD had a broken interior latch handle bracket. Pot metal cracked, unrepairable (I tried). OK, I read the first line when I sent the nomination. Somewhere I have 2 spare RF inside latches for 123. One will be

Re: [MBZ] Anyone have a first aid kit or lid?

2012-05-22 Thread John Reames
I've got an OLD one from a w126 (the kit itself, in the white plastic pouch/case). It was from an 84. Dunno how good the materials inside are in... -- John W Reames jream...@verizon.net Home: +14106646986 Mobile: +14437915905 On May 22, 2012, at 16:15, andrew strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com

Re: [MBZ] fix one thing and sumthin' else breaks

2012-05-22 Thread John Reames
Did you accidentally touch the hot wire from the clock to the metal on the back of the speedo? It will blow the trace right off the speedo board. I found that you always connect that lead first and disconnect it last (the only ground for the entire cluster is on the round plug) -- John W

Re: [MBZ] Anyone have a first aid kit or lid?

2012-05-22 Thread Dimitri Seretakis
Crazy glue is not NLA:) Sent from my iPhone On May 22, 2012, at 4:13 PM, andrew strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: They are NLA according to my professional technical advisor. On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 2:52 PM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: I bought a new one a

Re: [MBZ] Anyone have a first aid kit or lid?

2012-05-22 Thread Dimitri Seretakis
I would think that the plants are worth more than $2 each! Sent from my iPhone On May 22, 2012, at 4:15 PM, andrew strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: My tomato plants may be priceless but they are not valueless. One dozen are exactly equal in value to one new W123 first aid kit lid. :)

Re: [MBZ] fix one thing and sumthin' else breaks

2012-05-22 Thread Dimitri Seretakis
So I could never figure out how Marshall acquired all this undisputable knowledge. Did he take a strict scientific approach which he applied to all his cars over all those years and miles of ownership? Sent from my iPhone On May 22, 2012, at 4:25 PM, John Freer mbfo...@gmail.com wrote: Naw,

Re: [MBZ] fix one thing and sumthin' else breaks

2012-05-22 Thread Craig
On Tue, 22 May 2012 14:16:25 -0700 (PDT) Dimitri Seretakis dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: So I could never figure out how Marshall acquired all this undisputable knowledge. Did he take a strict scientific approach which he applied to all his cars over all those years and miles of ownership?

Re: [MBZ] fix one thing and sumthin' else breaks

2012-05-22 Thread Allan Streib
Dimitri Seretakis dsereta...@yahoo.com writes: So I could never figure out how Marshall acquired all this undisputable knowledge. Did he take a strict scientific approach which he applied to all his cars over all those years and miles of ownership? I think he did, and had obtained access to

Re: [MBZ] Anyone have a first aid kit or lid?

2012-05-22 Thread hursley
I have one plastic and never used from a '93 201, and up for sale. If interested,private email please. On 05/22/12, John Reamesjwrea...@comcast.net wrote: I've got an OLD one from a w126 (the kit itself, in the white plastic pouch/case). It was from an 84. Dunno how good the materials

[MBZ] 124 kickdown switch

2012-05-22 Thread WILTON
'Starts normally - only in PARK and NEUTRAL. Wilton - Original Message - From: WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2012 3:40 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 124 kickdown switch 'Haven't replaced all the fuses in 4 or 5 years.

Re: [MBZ] Anyone have a first aid kit or lid?

2012-05-22 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
I don't have one now but I used to sell those all day long for 50-80 each Sent from my iPhone On May 22, 2012, at 10:33 AM, andrew strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: In attempting to access the fuel tank sending unit, we accidentally cracked the first aid kit in our 1985 300CD. If

Re: [MBZ] Anyone have a first aid kit or lid?

2012-05-22 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
He is talking about the box in the car that holds the hit Sent from my iPhone On May 22, 2012, at 3:47 PM, John Reames jwrea...@comcast.net wrote: I've got an OLD one from a w126 (the kit itself, in the white plastic pouch/case). It was from an 84. Dunno how good the materials inside are

Re: [MBZ] 124 kickdown switch

2012-05-22 Thread Craig
On Tue, 22 May 2012 18:04:51 -0400 WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote: 'Starts normally - only in PARK and NEUTRAL. I can see MB engineers designing it so the kickdown solenoid would only get power to the when it was in gear, but I don't think I would have designed it that way. I haven't found my

Re: [MBZ] out of it's habitat

2012-05-22 Thread RELNGSON
...No, I meant too slow.  I am against excessive speeding to burn off carbon, or for any other reason for that matter, unless you're at the track... Just the thought of taking a diesel MB to the track made me laugh so hard that I nearly wet myself. Anyway, define excessive speeding. RLE

Re: [MBZ] sand?

2012-05-22 Thread RELNGSON
...Sand reminds me:  In about '76 family and I were northbound on I-15 between Victorville, CA, an Las Vegas in a sand storm.  'Had been in left lane; visibility got really bad; I said aloud, I better stay in right lane, some fool could be coming the wrong way and meet me head-on. 

Re: [MBZ] out of it's habitat

2012-05-22 Thread Rick Knoble
On May 22, 2012, at 7:37 PM, relng...@aol.com wrote: Anyway, define excessive speeding. In relation to an auto that was engineered to be operated at full throttle for hours, if not days, at a time. Rick Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For

Re: [MBZ] out of it's habitat

2012-05-22 Thread Hendrik Fay
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CJK3z4E6slc Better put some of your senior incontinence underwear on before watching. Hendrik who doesn't need nappies.yet On 23/05/12 10:07, relng...@aol.com wrote: ...No, I meant too slow. I am against excessive speeding to burn off carbon, or for any

[MBZ] Now you can have Mercedes Benz looks on a Ford budget

2012-05-22 Thread Hendrik Fay
http://www.v8archie.com/ssl500fs.htm I never really liked the look of the r129 but this makes it so much worse, you'd just about feel like pouring petrol over that and putting a match in it. Hendrik who has the old Merc look with old Merc budget ___

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2012-05-22 Thread Rick Knoble
http://chicago.craigslist.org/chc/cto/3032087650.html -- Sent from CraigsPro+ for iPhone and iPod Rick Sent from my iPhone. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To

Re: [MBZ] (SPAM?) Now you can have Mercedes Benz looks on a Ford budget

2012-05-22 Thread Jim Cathey
http://www.v8archie.com/ssl500fs.htm That's funny! I always thought the R129 looked a lot like an 80's Mustang. Apparently I'm not the only one! If I'm going to drop 16 large on such a car, I think I'll wait 'til I find an actual R129 for that price. -- Jim

Re: [MBZ] sand?

2012-05-22 Thread WILTON
Well, it was more dust than sand. Wilton - Original Message - From: relng...@aol.com To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2012 8:40 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] sand? ...Sand reminds me: In about '76 family and I were northbound on I-15 between Victorville, CA, an Las Vegas

Re: [MBZ] Now you can have Mercedes Benz looks on a Ford budget

2012-05-22 Thread WILTON
Somebody enjoyed the exercise, I guess. Wilton - Original Message - From: Hendrik Fay heni...@ozemail.com.au To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2012 9:14 PM Subject: [MBZ] Now you can have Mercedes Benz looks on a Ford budget

Re: [MBZ] (SPAM?) Now you can have Mercedes Benz looks on a Fordbudget

2012-05-22 Thread WILTON
'Zackly. Wilton - Original Message - From: Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2012 9:19 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] (SPAM?) Now you can have Mercedes Benz looks on a Fordbudget http://www.v8archie.com/ssl500fs.htm

Re: [MBZ] Now you can have Mercedes Benz looks on a Ford budget

2012-05-22 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 6:14 PM, Hendrik Fay heni...@ozemail.com.au wrote: http://www.v8archie.com/ssl500fs.htm At least the donor car is RWD and capable of more than adequate performance. Automobile magazine featured an R129 replica a few months back that was made out of a Chrysler LeBaron.

Re: [MBZ] (SPAM?) Now you can have Mercedes Benz looks on a Ford budget

2012-05-22 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 6:19 PM, Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net wrote: http://www.v8archie.com/ssl500fs.htm That's funny!  I always thought the R129 looked a lot like an 80's Mustang.  Apparently I'm not the only one! And in turn the early-'80s Mustang's stylists borrowed from the C107, I'm

Re: [MBZ] Is it bad for my w123 300DT to go 80mph

2012-05-22 Thread Brian Toscano
Last time I was on the 15 heading out of San Bernardino towards Vegas there was no sand storm. It was heavy traffic with the right lane cruising about 80-90 and the left lane was going around 100-105 MPH. The only people getting pulled over were losing their licenses. What amazed me more than

Re: [MBZ] 124 kickdown switch

2012-05-22 Thread Max
WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote: 'Noticed when I tried Italian tune-up entering I-795 this morning on the '87 300D, kick down didn't work. Anything else not working? KLIMA relay is involved in that circuit, but best to start at the neutral safety switch. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95

Re: [MBZ] fix one thing and sumthin' else breaks

2012-05-22 Thread Max
My opinion: Dr Marshall Booth documented and analyzed different common failures, and had an amazing amount of data to draw from. He was the Diesel Technical Advisor to MBCA for more than a few years, so I suspect he had accesses to MB repair data that we can only guess about. I think he was

Re: [MBZ] Is it bad for my w123 300DT to go 80mph

2012-05-22 Thread Max
andrew strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: I have never heard of a 123 turbo engine that expired prematurely (whatever that means - 300K miles?) because the owner drove it too slowly. Marshall often said that the MB diesels that really hit the high miles (500k plus) usually did so in a

Re: [MBZ] fix one thing and sumthin' else breaks

2012-05-22 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
He was not shy online but I think he was shy in person. I was watching night of the living dead the other day and it was cool to see his name up there in the credits. I don't think we knew about that till after he died. Sent from my iPhone On May 22, 2012, at 9:22 PM, Max

Re: [MBZ] fix one thing and sumthin' else breaks

2012-05-22 Thread Dimitri Seretakis
Huh? Night of the Living Dead? What role did he play? Sent from my iPhone On May 22, 2012, at 10:41 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net wrote: He was not shy online but I think he was shy in person. I was watching night of the living dead the other day and it was cool to see his name up

Re: [MBZ] fix one thing and sumthin' else breaks

2012-05-22 Thread Rick Knoble
He was the audio engineer. I don't know what his IQ was, but more than likely he was a genius. Rick Sent from my iPhone. On May 22, 2012, at 10:08 PM, Dimitri Seretakis dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: Huh? Night of the Living Dead? What role did he play? Sent from my iPhone On May 22,

Re: [MBZ] Is it bad for my w123 300DT to go 80mph

2012-05-22 Thread Dimitri Seretakis
Does oil analysis provide any benefit to those who change it every 3-4K miles? I use M1 5W40 Turbo Diesel Truck on my 240D and change it every 4K miles. I guess an oil analysis would tell me if I can extend that interval? Sent from my iPhone On May 22, 2012, at 10:38 PM, Max

Re: [MBZ] fix one thing and sumthin' else breaks

2012-05-22 Thread Dimitri Seretakis
Guess I have to watch that movie now! Sent from my iPhone On May 22, 2012, at 11:12 PM, Rick Knoble rickkno...@hotmail.com wrote: He was the audio engineer. I don't know what his IQ was, but more than likely he was a genius. Rick Sent from my iPhone. On May 22, 2012, at 10:08 PM, Dimitri

Re: [MBZ] Is it bad for my w123 300DT to go 80mph

2012-05-22 Thread Craig
On Tue, 22 May 2012 20:14:20 -0700 (PDT) Dimitri Seretakis dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: Does oil analysis provide any benefit to those who change it every 3-4K miles? I use M1 5W40 Turbo Diesel Truck on my 240D and change it every 4K miles. I guess an oil analysis would tell me if I can extend

Re: [MBZ] 124 kickdown switch

2012-05-22 Thread WILTON
'Haven't noticed anything else yet. Wilton - Original Message - From: Max meadedil...@bellsouth.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2012 10:14 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 124 kickdown switch WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote: 'Noticed when I tried

Re: [MBZ] Is it bad for my w123 300DT to go 80mph

2012-05-22 Thread WILTON
At George AFB west of Victorville, I lived on eastern edge of base. On Friday evenings, we could see 2 solid rows of red tail lights several miles long 4 or 5 miles away across the desert going north on I-15 toward Vegas; on Sunday evenings, two rows of headlights headed south. Wilton -

Re: [MBZ] Is it bad for my w123 300DT to go 80mph

2012-05-22 Thread Brian Toscano
Unless you are looking to extend the drains, it probably wouldn't be much help in a 240D. I see more benefit with some of the later models where head gasket failure or cracked heads are somewhat common. The oil analysis can help you determine if coolant is making it into the oil and if it is,

Re: [MBZ] Is it bad for my w123 300DT to go 80mph

2012-05-22 Thread Brian Toscano
Oil analysis can also help identify if there are leaks in the air intake. It will show as higher amounts of silicon, etc. You might see some elevated silicon levels even if the intake was operating normally if you drove through dust storms. On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 11:03 PM, Brian Toscano

Re: [MBZ] 124 kickdown switch

2012-05-22 Thread Fmiser
WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote: 'Noticed when I tried Italian tune-up entering I-795 this morning on the '87 300D, kick down didn't work. Max wrote: Anything else not working? KLIMA relay is involved in that circuit, but best to start at the neutral safety switch. N! Not

Re: [MBZ] out of it's habitat

2012-05-22 Thread G Mann
I am firmly with Roger on this one, anything in excess of 196,000 Miles Per Second would certainly be excess speed and should be kept in check in light of staying visible. Other than that, run what ya brung boys. If your pants are totally dry, you are just not pushing the envelope hard enough