Re: [MBZ] 300SD available to nice English people

2013-08-29 Thread Hendrik and Fay
No, looks fine to me, your flavour of colour is an offence to those who harbour a secret love for her royal highness Liz. Hendrik who is ageing On 29/08/13 13:39, Andrew Strasfogel wrote: You should talk. Colour looks a bit funny with the superfluous u. On Wed, Aug 28, 2013 at 10:16 PM,

Re: [MBZ] 300SD available

2013-08-29 Thread Fmiser
Jaime wrote: Wow... you guys are cruel. I'm passing this along as an honest car I can vouch for that someone here might be interested in. I wasn't attempting to deceive any of you, or looking for a critique of his skills as a craigslist poster. This is really a miserable group

Re: [MBZ] 108

2013-08-29 Thread Fmiser
Kaleb wrote: The 280SE and SEL are fuel injected. I believe there are other fuel injected models also. The E originally meant fuel injected - and I think for the 108 vintage cars it still did. --Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list

Re: [MBZ] 300SD available

2013-08-29 Thread Dan Penoff
Liberal amounts of 3M Adhesive Remover will take it off with minimal effort. I've done it more times than I care to recall. I really hate those things Dan Sent from my iPad On Aug 28, 2013, at 9:45 PM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote: Wonder if I can get that deflector off without leaving

Re: [MBZ] 1984 300D Air conditioning

2013-08-29 Thread Rick Knoble
On Aug 28, 2013, at 6:50 AM, Gerry Archer arche...@embarqmail.com wrote: From: Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net I have heard it recommended that an input filter be used on formerly-shrapnelled systems. The flush isn't always quite good enough. -- Jim Read that too but couldn't find a

Re: [MBZ] 108

2013-08-29 Thread Dan Penoff
I have never owned a 108 with a V-8, but the ones I had with the inline six were good cars and did well in the road. I like the simplicity of the sizes and the amount of space in the engine compartment they give you. The V-8s always sort of scared me with their fuel systems and the appearance

Re: [MBZ] 300SD available

2013-08-29 Thread WILTON
'Needs to be lost completely. Wilton - Original Message - From: Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, August 28, 2013 11:46 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 300SD available youse guys, but it's getting pretty rare On Wed, Aug

Re: [MBZ] 300SD available

2013-08-29 Thread WILTON
I hate 'em, too; hate the big hole under them even more. Wilton - Original Message - From: Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2013 5:56 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 300SD available Liberal amounts of 3M Adhesive Remover

Re: [MBZ] 1984 300D Air conditioning

2013-08-29 Thread Mike Esh
Michael E. Esh me...@horizonenv.com michael...@mac.com http://www.yugster.com/invite/138123 (C) 231.286.2344 On Aug 29, 2013, at 07:25 AM, Mike Esh michael...@mac.com wrote: I found this site that has the ES-12a 6 oz. cans for $8.00 each. They have other amounts and sizes available as

Re: [MBZ] 108

2013-08-29 Thread Jim Cathey
The E originally meant fuel injected - and I think for the 108 vintage cars it still did. Until the letters came in front, in the 90's, that's exactly (and only) what E meant. Not definitive, though, as SL's (starting with the gullwing/300) never had an E, even when fuel-injected. -- Jim

Re: [MBZ] 108

2013-08-29 Thread Jaime Kopchinski
I've owned both and like the feel of the 6 cylinder cars over the v8s. A nice running M130 in a 280SE/L is quite powerful. Jaime On Wednesday, August 28, 2013, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: When speaking of 108s, is the 6 cylinder or v8 better suited to that body? I think I would rather have a

Re: [MBZ] 108

2013-08-29 Thread Jim Cathey
I've owned both and like the feel of the 6 cylinder cars over the v8s. A nice running M130 in a 280SE/L is quite powerful. The M130 in our 250C (convertible) ran quite nicely. IIRC. The Zenith carbs, however... -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To

Re: [MBZ] 108

2013-08-29 Thread Dan Penoff
Now don't start trashing the Zeniths. Jaime and I will have to start defending them. Again. Maybe it's just me, but I had at least three MBs with Zeniths over the years, and I never had a problem with them once they were adjusted and set up properly. Dan On Aug 29, 2013, at 11:02 AM, Jim

Re: [MBZ] 108

2013-08-29 Thread Gary Hurst
you would be less happy with them overall had they leaked On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 11:17 AM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: Now don't start trashing the Zeniths. Jaime and I will have to start defending them. Again. Maybe it's just me, but I had at least three MBs with Zeniths over the

Re: [MBZ] 108

2013-08-29 Thread Dan Penoff
I had a couple that leaked on my 1970 250C, but after they were rebuilt and the air cleaner bolt properly tightened I never had a problem with them after that. On Aug 29, 2013, at 11:20 AM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote: you would be less happy with them overall had they leaked

Re: [MBZ] 108

2013-08-29 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
What do you think about this? http://topeka.craigslist.org/cto/4025794422.html Sent from my iPhone On Aug 29, 2013, at 9:35 AM, Jaime Kopchinski jaime...@gmail.com wrote: I've owned both and like the feel of the 6 cylinder cars over the v8s. A nice running M130 in a 280SE/L is quite

Re: [MBZ] 108

2013-08-29 Thread Gary Hurst
i'd be interested On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 11:54 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.netwrote: What do you think about this? http://topeka.craigslist.org/cto/4025794422.html Sent from my iPhone On Aug 29, 2013, at 9:35 AM, Jaime Kopchinski jaime...@gmail.com wrote: I've owned both

Re: [MBZ] 300SD available

2013-08-29 Thread Curt Raymond
Cruel would be suggesting it was a POS. I was merely offering suggestions to help them sell their car.  -Curt Date: Wed, 28 Aug 2013 20:16:42 -0400 From: Jaime Kopchinski jaime...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] 300SD available Message-ID:    

Re: [MBZ] 108

2013-08-29 Thread Dan Penoff
Not bad for $3k I'm guessing. Looks like the body has some dings and the upholstery is toast, but otherwise looks nice. Buy it, ship it to me for the full Martha treatment, then come get it. Dan Sent from my iPad On Aug 29, 2013, at 11:54 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net wrote: What

Re: [MBZ] 300SD available to nice English people

2013-08-29 Thread Andrew Strasfogel
Please be considerate. Those extra vowels are sucking up precious bandwidth. On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 2:02 AM, Hendrik and Fay heni...@gmail.com wrote: No, looks fine to me, your flavour of colour is an offence to those who harbour a secret love for her royal highness Liz. Hendrik who is

Re: [MBZ] 300SD available to nice English people

2013-08-29 Thread Rich Thomas
They should donate them to the Balkans. --R On 8/29/13 1:05 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote: Please be considerate. Those extra vowels are sucking up precious bandwidth. On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 2:02 AM, Hendrik and Fay heni...@gmail.com wrote: No, looks fine to me, your flavour of colour is

Re: [MBZ] 300SD available to nice English people

2013-08-29 Thread Andrew Strasfogel
That would be fun to see. All those vowel-less words peppered with strategically inserted us On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 1:16 PM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: They should donate them to the Balkans. --R On 8/29/13 1:05 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote: Please be

Re: [MBZ] 108

2013-08-29 Thread Gary Hurst
it's very likely worth 3 but consider that he'll get it for 2500 or less. but i'm guessing someone has already bought it in the low to mid 2 grand range On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 12:48 PM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: Not bad for $3k I'm guessing. Looks like the body has some dings and the

Re: [MBZ] 108

2013-08-29 Thread dseretakis
That's pretty darn nice. Sent from my iPhone On Aug 29, 2013, at 11:54 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net wrote: What do you think about this? http://topeka.craigslist.org/cto/4025794422.html Sent from my iPhone On Aug 29, 2013, at 9:35 AM, Jaime Kopchinski jaime...@gmail.com

Re: [MBZ] 108

2013-08-29 Thread dseretakis
And it's a 6- just to your liking. Sent from my iPhone On Aug 29, 2013, at 12:06 PM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote: i'd be interested On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 11:54 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.netwrote: What do you think about this?

Re: [MBZ] 108

2013-08-29 Thread dseretakis
I know someone on this list who has a complete like new interior for that baby:) Sent from my iPhone On Aug 29, 2013, at 12:48 PM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: Not bad for $3k I'm guessing. Looks like the body has some dings and the upholstery is toast, but otherwise looks nice. Buy

Re: [MBZ] 1984 300D Air conditioning

2013-08-29 Thread Jon Agne
Buy it directly from manufacturer: http://www.es-refrigerants.com/ Use the industrial ES-12. You won't be disappointed. On Aug 29, 2013, at 9:04 AM, Mike Esh wrote: Michael E. Esh me...@horizonenv.com michael...@mac.com http://www.yugster.com/invite/138123 (C) 231.286.2344 On

Re: [MBZ] 108

2013-08-29 Thread Jon Agne
That would be meif you like pristine green leather! On Aug 29, 2013, at 1:36 PM, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: I know someone on this list who has a complete like new interior for that baby:) Sent from my iPhone On Aug 29, 2013, at 12:48 PM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: Not

Re: [MBZ] 108

2013-08-29 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
Oh boy, I may have to get with you on that. Got the carpet etc in green also? Sent from my iPhone On Aug 29, 2013, at 2:25 PM, Jon Agne jonag...@gwi.net wrote: That would be meif you like pristine green leather! On Aug 29, 2013, at 1:36 PM, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: I know

Re: [MBZ] 1984 300D Air conditioning

2013-08-29 Thread David Kristin Gilmore
At 09:04 AM 8/29/2013, Mike wrote re the Enviro-System products: Has anyone ordered from this company? How may cans would I need for a complete refill of the system including new dryer and expansion valve? The specs state that each 6oz. can is equivilent to 18 oz of 134a. They have a

Re: [MBZ] 1984 300D Air conditioning

2013-08-29 Thread Dan Penoff
Does anyone have any experience with their ES502 replacement for R-22? I suspect this is a propane mix of some sort? I'm going to ask my former neighbor about this, as he's an engineer who works with commercial AC systems but has done some hacks on his home system... Dan Sent from my iPad On

Re: [MBZ] OT power line ethernet

2013-08-29 Thread Larry T
Thanks Scott - Is there any easy way to extend the rangeof my wifi - I' like to use my laptop downstairs at times... LarryT On 8/28/2013 5:06 PM, Scott Ritchey wrote: A repeater will cut your effective bandwidth in half or worse. -Original Message- From: Mercedes

Re: [MBZ] 108

2013-08-29 Thread Jon Agne
You bet. Also has very nice door panels. On Aug 29, 2013, at 3:42 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: Oh boy, I may have to get with you on that. Got the carpet etc in green also? Sent from my iPhone On Aug 29, 2013, at 2:25 PM, Jon Agne jonag...@gwi.net wrote: That would be meif you

Re: [MBZ] 108

2013-08-29 Thread Dwight Giles
I saw it about 10 days ago. It is nice. Wish I had a 108 On Thursday, August 29, 2013, Jon Agne jonag...@gwi.net wrote: You bet. Also has very nice door panels. On Aug 29, 2013, at 3:42 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: Oh boy, I may have to get with you on that. Got the carpet etc in green

[MBZ] Homebrew BioD

2013-08-29 Thread Dieselhead
Anybody in the chicago area that could process 500 gal a month or so of soy oil into BioD? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:

Re: [MBZ] Homebrew BioD

2013-08-29 Thread WILTON
Reminds me: Honors student grandaughter (senior) at NC State U is working in a lab on production of fuels from algae. Wilton - Original Message - From: Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2013 5:48 PM Subject:

Re: [MBZ] 108

2013-08-29 Thread Larry T
Me too - I've owned 3 W108's with the last being a 4.5 - that engine was amazing - really smooth and powerful - that 280SEL was great on the interstate! Got terrible mpg's but a joy to drive. My 280SEwas an awesome car also - and the engine got low 20s mpg's. Also a beautiful car only

Re: [MBZ] OT power line ethernet

2013-08-29 Thread WILTON
How big is your estate? Mine seems to work fine upstairs from downstairs, across house, out on terrace, etc. ;) Wilton - Original Message - From: Larry T l02tur...@comcast.net To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2013 4:58 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT power line

Re: [MBZ] 108

2013-08-29 Thread Dieselhead
My pick of the 108 litter would be a 280SEL. If the FI got too costly, I am sure I could snag a FI system off a 3.3 dogde or similar and adapticate it. However if the pump is cared for, they will last a lifetime or more. The M130/M180 is so smooth and quiet. They are nice engines,

Re: [MBZ] 108

2013-08-29 Thread Peter Frederick
My 280SE 4.5 got 17 mpg on the highway, and really wanted to run at 90 and up Enormous power out of the 4.5L, much more (and at much lower rpm) than the sixes, which were screaming at highway speed and as a result very fuel hungry (upper teens to very low 20's mpg). Peter

Re: [MBZ] Homebrew BioD

2013-08-29 Thread Rick Knoble
On Aug 29, 2013, at 4:48 PM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: Anybody in the chicago area that could process 500 gal a month or so of soy oil into BioD? I'd love to, if I could find the feed stock. Is that a rhetorical question? I have the stuff to build a processor in storage. I just

[MBZ] Brake fiasco

2013-08-29 Thread dseretakis
I finally finished the complete front brake job on the 240D today, but...it's still not braking quite right. On the highway, with hard braking, I get a pulsation. There is also quite a bit of squealing. Here's what I did good and bad: Good: I used genuine MB flexible hoses, grease seals,

Re: [MBZ] OT power line ethernet

2013-08-29 Thread Dan Penoff
You're better off trying an antenna than using a repeater or range extender, both of which will cause you to lose some bandwidth in the process. Your access point will have some antennas attached to it that can be removed and a larger antenna or more directional antenna can be attached. Dan

Re: [MBZ] Jabba parts ban

2013-08-29 Thread Andrew Strasfogel
This conversation needs to be taken off line. On Sat, Aug 24, 2013 at 6:19 PM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote: he sent the money to milton to pay for me from 4+ years ago. sheesh, wilton, pay attention! On Sat, Aug 24, 2013 at 6:10 PM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote: 'Course,

Re: [MBZ] OT Louie Louie

2013-08-29 Thread Gary Hurst
yeah, it's the translation of hte story into english (well, english and spanish here as there is a large non english speaking population) that would make it work universally. they are good stories that should captivate most any watcher On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 12:56 PM, Dan Penoff

Re: [MBZ] OT: Amazon.com!

2013-08-29 Thread Craig
On Sat, 10 Aug 2013 00:08:21 -0400 Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: Craig wrote: The hard disk drive in one of our computers has been acting up. I was looking at a replacement. Yesterday, it was $62.99. Today it's $81.24! Do they vary their prices according to the day of the week?

Re: [MBZ] 108

2013-08-29 Thread dseretakis
My 2.8 L FI pagoda is quite powerful and quite thirsty! Sent from my iPhone On Aug 29, 2013, at 10:35 AM, Jaime Kopchinski jaime...@gmail.com wrote: I've owned both and like the feel of the 6 cylinder cars over the v8s. A nice running M130 in a 280SE/L is quite powerful. Jaime On

Re: [MBZ] 108

2013-08-29 Thread Curt Raymond
I guess I don't understand this, are you suggesting that the 4.5 wasn't very fuel hungry with its mid-high teens fuel economy? -Curt Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2013 17:19:53 -0500 From: Peter Frederick psf...@earthlink.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] 108

Re: [MBZ] Jabba parts ban

2013-08-29 Thread Rick Knoble
On Aug 29, 2013, at 6:22 PM, Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: This conversation needs to be taken off line. You just responded to an email that was five days old. AND you didn't TRIM YOUR POST! :-D Rick Sent from my iPhone ___

Re: [MBZ] OT power line ethernet

2013-08-29 Thread OK Don
Can you run Cat 5 to the downstairs and install another WiFi box? On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 3:58 PM, Larry T l02tur...@comcast.net wrote: Thanks Scott - Is there any easy way to extend the rangeof my wifi - I' like to use my laptop downstairs at times... LarryT On 8/28/2013 5:06 PM,

Re: [MBZ] Brake fiasco

2013-08-29 Thread Curt Raymond
When I did rear pads/rotors/calipers on my '84 190D recently I used parts from Car Quest. One thing I noticed about the pads was that the edges weren't beveled but were squared off. I seem to remember the fronts I put on were beveled but I haven't checked. These squared off ones squealed a bit

[MBZ] 87 300D cruise control

2013-08-29 Thread WILTON
Another chance to excel - where in the 87 MB 300D Service Manual CD is the cruise control amp? I KNOW where it is in the car; I wanta know where it is in DA BOOK/MANUAL. Wilt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives

Re: [MBZ] 108

2013-08-29 Thread Peter Frederick
It's almost twice as big and gets about the same milage -- 3.23 gears instead of 3.88, uses less fuel. I suspect at 4.5 can be safely tuned to get around 18 on the highway if you use only premium. No comparison in terms of power, the 4.5 is a real beast. Factory specs are 9.5 sec 0-60,

Re: [MBZ] Jabba parts ban

2013-08-29 Thread WILTON
Sic 'em Rover! Sic 'em! Wilton - Original Message - From: Rick Knoble rickkno...@hotmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2013 7:41 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Jabba parts ban On Aug 29, 2013, at 6:22 PM, Andrew Strasfogel

Re: [MBZ] Brake fiasco

2013-08-29 Thread Rick Knoble
On Aug 29, 2013, at 5:33 PM, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: What could be going on? Literally everything was replaced! I responded twice and the emails disappeared. Hmmm. Intercepted by the NSA ??? Anyway, did you bed the pads? Perhaps the rotors are inferior? Here is more than you want to

Re: [MBZ] Jabba parts ban

2013-08-29 Thread Gerry Archer
Plenty of automatic post trimmers on Google. Kaleb should hook one up to his server. https://www.google.com/#q=automatic+post+trimmer Sic 'em Rover! Sic 'em! Wilton - Original Message - From: Rick Knoble rickkno...@hotmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] 108

2013-08-29 Thread dseretakis
Yes the 4.5 is quite the beast. My brother had a 280SE 4.5 and shit that thing was fast! Can even imagine what a 6.3 would be like. Sent from my iPhone On Aug 29, 2013, at 7:49 PM, Peter Frederick psf...@earthlink.net wrote: It's almost twice as big and gets about the same milage -- 3.23

Re: [MBZ] Brake fiasco

2013-08-29 Thread dseretakis
Yes I used the CRC red caliper grease. I didn't slather it on though. I initially liked the stuff but I've noticed that it dries to a rubbery goo unlike the Mercedes like stuff that comes in the little packages. Sent from my iPhone On Aug 29, 2013, at 7:44 PM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com

Re: [MBZ] Brake fiasco

2013-08-29 Thread dseretakis
Not sure if I know anymore what bedding pads means. I initially heard that you should ease on the brakes but then that you should brake hard. Not being sure which approach to take I did do some hard abrupt braking though on the test drive. The rotors may very well be inferior. They are made in

Re: [MBZ] 87 300D cruise control

2013-08-29 Thread WILTON
I found it - Group 30; throttle/cruise control. Wilt - Original Message - From: WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com To: mercedes list mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2013 7:46 PM Subject: [MBZ] 87 300D cruise control Another chance to excel - where in the 87 MB 300D Service

Re: [MBZ] 87 300D cruise control

2013-08-29 Thread Rick Knoble
From: wilt...@nc.rr.com To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2013 20:35:40 -0400 Subject: Re: [MBZ] 87 300D cruise control I found it - Group 30; throttle/cruise control. ATTABOY! Rick Who wonders why he is calling a military hero old enough to be his dad, boy?

Re: [MBZ] Brake fiasco

2013-08-29 Thread Curt Raymond
I can't remember who makes the stuff I've got, Permatex problem. Its kind of blue/purple. I haven't had to go back and find out what it dries like. My 190D does make a little squeak, I can't tell if its the fronts or the rears. Probably the rears, I need to go back and re-slather. -Curt Date:

Re: [MBZ] Brake fiasco

2013-08-29 Thread Rick Knoble
From: dsereta...@yahoo.com Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2013 20:24:16 -0400 To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Brake fiasco Not sure if I know anymore what bedding pads means. I initially heard that you should ease on the brakes but then that you

Re: [MBZ] 87 300D cruise control

2013-08-29 Thread WILTON
Danke. Wilt - Original Message - From: Rick Knoble rickkno...@hotmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2013 8:48 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 87 300D cruise control From: wilt...@nc.rr.com To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2013

Re: [MBZ] Brake fiasco

2013-08-29 Thread Rick Knoble
From: dsereta...@yahoo.com Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2013 18:33:09 -0400 To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] Brake fiasco What could be going on? Literally everything was replaced! Clipped from the referenced article. The obvious question now is is

Re: [MBZ] Bed and Brake fiasco

2013-08-29 Thread Hendrik and Fay
Bedding in brakes is a process of getting the rotors hot and (for want of a better term) tempering them. Also some of the material from the pads is infused into the rotors, basically this can't be done at the factory (well it could but would add cost). The problem is if you don't bed in your

Re: [MBZ] Brake fiasco

2013-08-29 Thread WILTON
'Don't mean to imply that mine was this same problem - it certainly was not, but I'm reminded of the '81 300D that I bought from a 94-year-old friend in '01. I remembered when he bought the car new and was a bit envious - his ivory 123 looked much better to me than my cactus green 123 (240D).

Re: [MBZ] Brake fiasco

2013-08-29 Thread WILTON
'Said discs, meant rotors. Wilton - Original Message - From: WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2013 9:28 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Brake fiasco 'Don't mean to imply that mine was this same problem - it certainly was

Re: [MBZ] Brake fiasco

2013-08-29 Thread Greg Fiorentino
You must brake in your new breaks! Greg -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of dsereta...@yahoo.com Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2013 3:33 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: [MBZ] Brake fiasco I finally finished the complete front brake

Re: [MBZ] Bed and Brake fiasco

2013-08-29 Thread Peter Frederick
The real problem is coming to a very hard stop and then holding the brakes on without moving. This permits the carbon in the pad to become incorperated into the iron of the disk, making a hard spot. There is a huge difference between bedding in racing brakes and normal ones. All you need

Re: [MBZ] Brake fiasco

2013-08-29 Thread Peter Frederick
One way to eliminate the squeak is to stick with OEM pads, as they have the anti-squeal material bonded to the back of the pad. Cheap aftermarkets with plain metal backing plates (no layer of hard plastic on the piston side) will probably squeal no matter what you do, and glueing them to

Re: [MBZ] Brake fiasco

2013-08-29 Thread dseretakis
Good point about the backing on OEM pads. Sent from my iPhone On Aug 29, 2013, at 10:02 PM, Peter Frederick psf...@earthlink.net wrote: One way to eliminate the squeak is to stick with OEM pads, as they have the anti-squeal material bonded to the back of the pad. Cheap aftermarkets with

Re: [MBZ] Brake fiasco

2013-08-29 Thread dseretakis
I remember reading that article a few years ago and found it very interesting. I will re-read it though to refresh. Sent from my iPhone On Aug 29, 2013, at 8:59 PM, Rick Knoble rickkno...@hotmail.com wrote: From: dsereta...@yahoo.com Date: Thu, 29

Re: [MBZ] Brake fiasco

2013-08-29 Thread Peter Frederick
Since I usually get 60,000 miles on a set of pads, OEM is fine for me. Thats roughly a set of fronts every three years, rears every six. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change

Re: [MBZ] Brake fiasco

2013-08-29 Thread WILTON
Brakes on friend's/my 81 300D were OEM; squealed with me a first 'cause he hadn't used 'em. Wilton - Original Message - From: Peter Frederick psf...@earthlink.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2013 10:02 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Brake

Re: [MBZ] Homebrew BioD

2013-08-29 Thread Dieselhead
I have about 7000 gal/yr feedstock. Serious question. The oil is N of chicago, but still ill. We could haul it to IA or KS to process, but seems like it may be more practical to process it closer to where it is. We have technical resources available. We might spring for a 50 gal

Re: [MBZ] Bed and Brake fiasco

2013-08-29 Thread Craig
On Thu, 29 Aug 2013 21:00:04 -0500 Peter Frederick psf...@earthlink.net wrote: Even a panic stop will not heat the whole rotor enough to carburize it, you have to drag the brakes hard at full throttle for a while, even Nascar cars rarely have glowing rotors, if they do they aren't

Re: [MBZ] OT power line ethernet

2013-08-29 Thread Scott Ritchey
This is what I did. The wireless router is at one end of the house with an access point (connected by Cat 5) is at the other end. The really-high bandwidth stuff (like 2 NAS units) is hard wired through a gigabit switch. -Original Message- From: Mercedes

Re: [MBZ] 108

2013-08-29 Thread Andrew Strasfogel
I owned a 280SE 6 cyl. sedan, several 280SE 3.5 coupes and a 3.5 sedan. They were all awesome and fun to drive. The 3.5s were fast, dependable, and reasonably fuel efficient. The 280Se was my first concours winner. I loved driving at night with the colorful dash lights and slightly growly EFI

Re: [MBZ] Brake fiasco

2013-08-29 Thread Gary Hurst
my philosophy on brake stuff is really simple. i sell either original compound (textar/pagid or, rarely, jurid) or akebono ceramics. in terms of rotors, i sell only the german stuff, zimmermann and balo, with a strong preference towards the coated versions. back in the day i'd sell ate

Re: [MBZ] Brake fiasco

2013-08-29 Thread Gary Hurst
two things in life often don't work out well: 1. rushing 2. cheaping out when you do either it generally ends up taking longer and costing more money, but we have moved to a society that values fast and cheap above all. in this case, we learn about rushing. you can't rush anymore as there

Re: [MBZ] 108

2013-08-29 Thread Gary Hurst
compared to a modern powerful engine, they are all a joke On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 8:11 PM, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: Yes the 4.5 is quite the beast. My brother had a 280SE 4.5 and shit that thing was fast! Can even imagine what a 6.3 would be like. Sent from my iPhone On Aug 29,

Re: [MBZ] 108

2013-08-29 Thread Andrew Strasfogel
Off with his head! On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 11:25 PM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote: compared to a modern powerful engine, they are all a joke On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 8:11 PM, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: Yes the 4.5 is quite the beast. My brother had a 280SE 4.5 and shit that

Re: [MBZ] 108

2013-08-29 Thread Gary Hurst
i guess it is heresy, but cars are s powerful and fast today which is odd as in much of the USA, driving fast is a thing of the past. gone are the days of getting clocked and triple digit speeds and paying 100 bucks for it On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 11:27 PM, Andrew Strasfogel

Re: [MBZ] Brake fiasco

2013-08-29 Thread Rick Knoble
On Aug 29, 2013, at 10:22 PM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote: and there often isn't even that much of a delay as parts are often delivered in one or two business days. Silly questions, that I would've asked off-list, but are pertinent to all I suppose. One, do you ship from a parts

[MBZ] OT: but car related -

2013-08-29 Thread OK Don
For all you closet pilot wannabies, there are these cars --- http://io9.com/is-there-anything-cooler-than-a-car-with-a-giant-propel-1220328894 Shouldn't be too hard to convert an old tired Mercedes :-) -- OK Don They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety,

Re: [MBZ] Brake fiasco

2013-08-29 Thread Dieselhead
Silly questions, that I would've asked off-list, but are pertinent to all I suppose. One, do you ship from a parts supplier nearest your customer if you can? Do you offer free shipping on orders over xxx dollars? Do you provide a tracking number? Do you provide an email invoice with orders?

[MBZ] OT Bringing back the View Master

2013-08-29 Thread Darren Marshall
Hey all, just wanted to share a little diddy we just launched. No doubt you're familiar with View Masters, the old school slide reel viewers--you probably had some Disney ones years ago... maybe still do. I've partnered up with a guy that used to shoot in stereovision, did all that fancy stuff

Re: [MBZ] Brake fiasco

2013-08-29 Thread Gary Hurst
usually i ship the best parts i can without regard to location. so, for example, i really like those previously mentioned dallas made R4 AC compressors, so i sent mike esh one of those even though i had access to really good air products compressors 200 miles from his home. i did this because he

Re: [MBZ] Bed and Brake and nastycar fiasco

2013-08-29 Thread Hendrik and Fay
I was going to suggest that nascars don't need brakes, cause they go on oval circuits but apparently they do a few road courses as well. Hendrik who is on a break On 30/08/13 12:09, Craig wrote: On Thu, 29 Aug 2013 21:00:04 -0500 Peter Frederick psf...@earthlink.net wrote: Even a panic stop

Re: [MBZ] OT power line ethernet

2013-08-29 Thread Jim Cathey
Is there any easy way to extend the rangeof my wifi Move the AP so that it's more centrally located; External higher-gain antenna. Directional, if your AP is on an edge or in a corner of your desired service area. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To

Re: [MBZ] Signal, no noise

2013-08-29 Thread clay
We shall see how far working on his car goes. I was ring leader for the past two weeks, but now it devolves to him to make the hard choices. I have the tools and the detailing products. He may or may not avail himself of them. If he shows promise, I may gift him a membership to MBCA for a