[MBZ] Hearing aids. was: Subject: Re: Facts

[archer75--- via Mercedes]

Bob wrote:
> Hearing aid info:  I was born deaf due to my  mother having measles in 
> 1950. I only hear 40 % in my left ear,hardly anything  in my right ear. 
> Therefore I grew up with a "box" hearing aid that I wore on my  chest, 
> clipped 
> onto my white sleeveless " muscle "  undershirt. I hated summer cause I had 
> to wear another shirt over top to hold  the hearing aid as well cover it. It 
> was the most powerful one made by  Zenith powered by a 22 1/2 volt battery. 
> It wasn't til 1972 that Oticon from  Denmark broke the barrier with the BTE 
> [behind the ear] So after college I  wore these types & life got better. I 
> am an excellent lip reader & with  my high IQ I went to normal high school 
> [popular too because of my athletic  abilities & they accepted me] I finished 
> college in 3 1/2 years.
>  
>Siemens & Starkey are good brands as well as few  othersStay away 
> from Miracle Ear cause they are a rip-off. Go to an  accredited audiologists 
> . 
>  Today they have chips in the aids that cuts off  background noise in 
> restaurants & the like. Also there are in the ear types  that are really 
> good.Find somebody who'll let you try different types without  having to buy 
> it 
> outright. Do not rush into it because there are so many  types now. Hope this 
> some help to my fellow "deafies" out  there..LOL .  Please contact me 
> if you need more help on  this
>  
> Bob
> [Who never hears stereo ]

Hi Bob,
Do the background noise chips work effectively? I've never talked to anyone who 
had a hearing aid that worked very well if at all in noisy environments.
Several people on the HOH forums say that European made hearing aids have 
bigger telecoils and the whole aid is bigger. American aids are smaller because 
Americans are more concerned with appearance, according to them.
The European aids supposedly work better as well.
The aids I have are Arial II AV MM Omni. The company was failing and Starkey 
bought them. From the first day one of the aids would beep every 5 to 7 seconds 
unless it was turned very low. All 3 people at the sellers office tried to fix 
it; all to no avail. By the time they gave up on it, they said the warrantee 
had run out. I wouldn't recommend Omni's to anyone, and I'm not sure I would 
recommend Starkey. The first hearing aid I had was a Starkey ITE and it was 
worse than useless. soon the volume control quit and the seller ruined it while 
trying to fix it. Of course, that was 40 years ago and Starkey may be better 
now.
I'm thinking of getting Phonak (Swiss) or one of the other European aids, and 
it might have to be ITPs (in the pocket) since these BTEs are getting less 
effective at full volume.
Thanks for the information.
Gerry
 

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Re: [MBZ] Mercedes Diesel Engine

[OK Don via Mercedes]

I also think it's missing the intake manifold, no telling what else.

On Thu, Mar 5, 2015 at 11:28 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> $5700 pays for a LOT of months of storage rental ...
>
>
>  https://cosprings.craigslist.org/hvo/4856233089.html
>>
>> .
>



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Re: [MBZ] Global warming? No, Global ice age.

[Curly McLain via Mercedes]

The "brutal" winter is on the attack again, bringing sleet and heavy 
snow to the mid-Atlantic region. Previous storms targeted the deep 
south including Dallas, Texas, and several hammered New England. By 
March 4, Boston was just 2 inches away from hitting an all-time 
record for snow, Boston.com reported.


It's a reality more in keeping with media warnings from the 1970s 
than today's arguments about global warming.


Then, CBS anchor Walter Cronkite, the dean of American journalism, 
was warning about an "ice age." Cronkite cited scientific claims 
that the Earth was cooling and "the full extent of the new ice age 
won't be reached for 10,000 years."


That's completely different from the media's line today that global 
warming is settled sciencesnip


http://newsbusters.org/blogs/julia-seymour/2015/03/05/and-thats-way-it-was-1972-cronkite-warned-new-ice-age

Makes sense, doesn't it?
Gerry



And Walter stole it from Popular Science.  It was a cover story there 
first.  It was a great magazine back then.  In the 70s when the 3 
"BS" stations had a news story about new products or technology, I 
had read it usually a year or more earlier in Popular Science.


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Re: [MBZ] Mercedes Diesel Engine

[Curly McLain via Mercedes]

$5700 pays for a LOT of months of storage rental ...


https://cosprings.craigslist.org/hvo/4856233089.html


Craig


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Re: [MBZ] Facts

[Curly McLain via Mercedes]

During the 20 years from 1995 to 2015 there was average yearly 
enrollment of 30,000,000 grade school (grades 1 to 8) students 
enrolled in U.S. schools. During that same period 168 people were 
killed in school shootings, and this ignores the number enrolled in 
high schools.
That means the percent of grade and high school students killed was 
something much less than 0.05% of students killed.
Banning personal weapons in the hopes of saving that 0.05% is 
such a silly idea, it makes one wonder if its advocates might have 
ulterior motives.

Gerry



Ding Ding Ding Ding!  Gerry Scores!Bingo!

lessee:  tyrants who disarmed the population:
1. lenin/stalin   (probably in the double digits millions killed)
2. Dolfie(6 million plus killed)
3. Benito  (the Mussolini one)   (dunno how many there)
4. One of the mexican despots, followed by all the rest...  (millions)
5. Mao (not the list member)  (probably in the double digit millions killed)
6. Pol pot   (millions)
7.  Kim Jong whatevers  (millions)
8.  The brothers fidel and raul, along with the hotshot che... (millions)


If our dear leader follows the predictable pattern, he will continue 
to rule by fiat, dissolve congress by some ' national emergency," 
confiscate all ammunition/weapons and proceed to kill millions who 
don't see things his way.


No thanks!

I much prefer the constitution, as amended, and keeping and bearing arms.

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Re: [MBZ] Global warming? No, Global ice age.

[Curly McLain via Mercedes]

The "brutal" winter is on the attack again, bringing sleet and heavy 
snow to the mid-Atlantic region. Previous storms targeted the deep 
south including Dallas, Texas, and several hammered New England. By 
March 4, Boston was just 2 inches away from hitting an all-time 
record for snow, Boston.com reported.


It's a reality more in keeping with media warnings from the 1970s 
than today's arguments about global warming.


Then, CBS anchor Walter Cronkite, the dean of American journalism, 
was warning about an "ice age." Cronkite cited scientific claims 
that the Earth was cooling and "the full extent of the new ice age 
won't be reached for 10,000 years."


That's completely different from the media's line today that global 
warming is settled sciencesnip


http://newsbusters.org/blogs/julia-seymour/2015/03/05/and-thats-way-it-was-1972-cronkite-warned-new-ice-age

Makes sense, doesn't it?
Gerry



And Walter stole it from Popular Science.  It was a cover story there 
first.  It was a great magazine back then.  In the 70s when the 3 
"BS" stations had a news story about new products or technology, I 
had read it usually a year or more earlier in Popular Science.


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Re: [MBZ] Facts

[OK Don via Mercedes]

Reminds me of the saying:  "Never attribute to malice that which can be
explained by stupidity."

Gerry wrote:
> > Banning personal weapons in the hopes of saving that 0.05% is such a
> silly idea, it makes one wonder if its advocates might have ulterior
> motives.
>
>


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learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence
for themselves."

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1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph!
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Re: [MBZ] This looks like it might be a pretty nice 140

[archer75--- via Mercedes]

Here a tale told by an old DC-3 pilot:
http://www.douglasdc3.com/sohn/randstor.htm

Rich might have made one transaltlantic trip, but he probably wouldn't have 
willingly made anymore. DC-3s were noisy and bounced around a lot.
The cute stewardesses were all RNs and usually not all that pretty or flirty.
Gerry...who flew them a few times in the early '50s.

Rich Thomas wrote:
> Yeah but the growl of those piston engines...  and real propellers!
> I almost felt like I should be wearing a suit and tie and smoking Lucky 
> Strikes while a "girl" in a snazzy dress with a little hat worn at a 
> jaunty angle was serving me a martinus in a real glass.
> --R
 
> On 3/5/15 4:28 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes wrote:
> > I will bet it was noisy.
> > RB
> >
> > On 05/03/2015 1:23 PM, OK Don via Mercedes wrote:
> >> That would be really cool - -
> >>
> >> On Thu, Mar 5, 2015 at 12:22 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes <
> >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Some years ago I got to fly on the world's highest-time DC-3 in 
> >>> passenger
> >>> service, from Hyannis to Nantucket, flown by Provincetown-Boston 
> >>> Airways
> >>> (PBA)  It was a gorgeous plane with the old-style big comfy seats, 
> >>> 2x2 and
> >>> lots of legroom.  I was disappointed the flight was only 15min, I would
> >>> have gone transatlantic on it!
> >>>
> >>> --R

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Re: [MBZ] OT: MS

[Curly McLain via Mercedes]

Microsoft's support policy forced me to "upgrade" from Office 2003 to 2013.
I was pretty handy with several older versions but I find working with 2013
a bit like playing  "Where's Waldo".  I know the needed feature must be
there somewhere but finding the icon can be a real chore.  Fortunately,
right-click still works for many things.  So far (a year) I haven't found
any useful improvements over 2003.


Same!

Part of why i have vowed to never again buy Micro$h_t products. 
Switch to Libre office and keep the money.


Senselessly moving stuff around just so you have to waste time is the 
Micro$h_t way.


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Re: [MBZ] OT: Parental Control Hardware

[fmiser via Mercedes]

> Scott wrote:
> 
> I'm looking for advice on parental control hardware (router or
> inline box) for Wi-Fi at out church.

What capability are you looking for?  On/off at set times each
day?  Content blocking of "unsafe" sites?  White list of approved
sites?  Service filtering (no torrent, skype, FTP, etc)?
Username/password logon?

Dansguardian is the software I use for browser content filtering.
It could be setup for a wifi hotspot, but I don't think it comes
installed on any routers.

--  Philip, asking more questions than answering.

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[MBZ] Aircraft sighting

[Curly McLain via Mercedes]

Sunday evening, driving along the tollway from i75 to orlando, I 
spied a large aircraft going low and slow straight at us, apparently 
navigating by tollway.  (VFR)   From a distance I could not make out 
much, but silhouette and flight characteristics seemed similar to a 
B-17 limping home to england during WWII.  I kept thinking, Naaa 
can't be, then wondering if I was hallucinating or in a time warp.


I was sure it had to be a piston engine plane, because of the speed. 
As we closed eventually I could make out 4 engine nacelles, so the 
thoughts were the same...B17... Naaa, can't be... am I in a time warp?


It got close enough  to identify, and my heart leapt!  It REALLY was a B-17!

As it passed over to the left, it appeared to be in 8th Air Force 
livery  I could not make out the identification letters, but it was 
definitely NOT Aluminum Overcast as it was painted camouflage.


Definitely a rare and exciting sighting, especially straight on.

I am not sure how many examples are in flying condition, but this was 
one of em.  I was so Awestruck, I did not determine if it was an E, 
F, or G, but I am 90% positive it was not a G, because I believe i'd 
have noticed the chin turret.  I was focused on trying to read the ID 
letters on the waist to determine the name.



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Re: [MBZ] Facts now Fonts now Telling your Benz what to do

[Curly McLain via Mercedes]

Bow down and welcome our child overlords

--R


My son was in 6th grade when I stopped helping him, and he began the 
"help desk"  It was also when he got an old A500 of his own and 
he began to unleash his genius.


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Re: [MBZ] Facts now Fonts now Telling your Benz what to do

[Curly McLain via Mercedes]

So the new MamaML has a deal where you can talk to it and tell it 
what to do.  You push a button on the steering wheel then you tell 
it to navigate to some address or place you have saved, or change 
the radio or music on your pod or call someone or do various other 
things.  She has tried it but apparently they don't understand each 
other too well yet.  She finds the soul in the machine to be 
pleasant enough, however, when it tells her what to do, unlike her 
views toward me while doing the same.  It has also assimilated her 
phone into it so it can call people or send texts or do other things 
phone-wise, and apparently can also suck in 10GB or 80GB of music to 
its memory banks.


I find this whole thing somewhat disturbing yet intriguing.

It has a rotating pushbutton mouse joystick sort of thing too to 
whiz around the screen if you don't want to talk to it.  The 
instruction book is about 400 pages long.


--R


Jaime's baby, I think.

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[MBZ] Mercedes Diesel Engine

[Craig via Mercedes]

https://cosprings.craigslist.org/hvo/4856233089.html



Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Facts now Fonts now Telling your Benz what to do

[G Mann via Mercedes]

Well.. thank heaven there is an instruction manual so you won't have
distracted driving operating all those nifty little geegawws that do things
other than let you pay attention to driving the car and other drivers who
wish to drive through you.

Multi Tasking:  That principle of time and action management that allows
you to do many simultaneous actions poorly while believing you are over
achieving.

On Thu, Mar 5, 2015 at 8:04 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> So the new MamaML has a deal where you can talk to it and tell it what to
> do.  You push a button on the steering wheel then you tell it to navigate
> to some address or place you have saved, or change the radio or music on
> your pod or call someone or do various other things.  She has tried it but
> apparently they don't understand each other too well yet.  She finds the
> soul in the machine to be pleasant enough, however, when it tells her what
> to do, unlike her views toward me while doing the same.  It has also
> assimilated her phone into it so it can call people or send texts or do
> other things phone-wise, and apparently can also suck in 10GB or 80GB of
> music to its memory banks.
>
> I find this whole thing somewhat disturbing yet intriguing.
>
> It has a rotating pushbutton mouse joystick sort of thing too to whiz
> around the screen if you don't want to talk to it.  The instruction book is
> about 400 pages long.
>
> --R
>
>
>
> On 3/4/15 7:41 PM, wiltonw--- via Mercedes wrote:
>
>> I used Dragon Speaking with good results 6 or 8 years ago.  Problem for
>> last couple months is tremor of right hand so bad my handwriting is
>> unreadable, even by me.
>>
>> Wilton
>>
>>  OK Don via Mercedes  wrote:
>>
>>> It is, if you take the time to learn it and to train it to your voice.
>>>
>> However, writing with your fingers and dictating text are not usually the
>> same thing. You don't talk like you write. It takes getting used to
>> planning what your are about to say with your mouth the way you do when
>> you
>> write/type.
>>
>> On Wed, Mar 4, 2015 at 5:23 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>
>>  DragonSpeak is supposed to be really good.  I don't have any direct
>>> experience with it, however.
>>>
>>> Dan
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
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Re: [MBZ] Global warming? No, Global ice age.

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Hey guess what - UT and ID are having a record warm winter with way too
little snow.  It all balances out.

On Thu, Mar 5, 2015 at 7:04 PM, archer75--- via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

>
> The “brutal” winter is on the attack again, bringing sleet and heavy snow
> to the mid-Atlantic region. Previous storms targeted the deep south
> including Dallas, Texas, and several hammered New England. By March 4,
> Boston was just 2 inches away from hitting an all-time record for snow,
> Boston.com reported.
>
> It’s a reality more in keeping with media warnings from the 1970s than
> today’s arguments about global warming.
>
> Then, CBS anchor Walter Cronkite, the dean of American journalism, was
> warning about an "ice age." Cronkite cited scientific claims that the Earth
> was cooling and "the full extent of the new ice age won't be reached for
> 10,000 years."
>
> That's completely different from the media's line today that global
> warming is settled sciencesnip
>
>
> http://newsbusters.org/blogs/julia-seymour/2015/03/05/and-thats-way-it-was-1972-cronkite-warned-new-ice-age
>
> Makes sense, doesn't it?
> Gerry
>
>
>
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Re: [MBZ] OT: MS

[Dwight Giles via Mercedes]

Yes my employer put Windows 2013 on the new laptop they bought me  last
year. It is not friendly. As you said Curt, they have hidden commands for
so many actions.
On Mar 5, 2015 5:58 PM, "Craig via Mercedes"  wrote:

> On Thu, 5 Mar 2015 22:22:45 + (UTC) Curt Raymond via Mercedes
>  wrote:
>
> > Ugh, I hate the new version. It turns on doublespace automatically
> > which I hate, I turn it off and it turns it back on. Its SUPER
> > intrusive in auto formatting (badly) everything I write and the new
> > interface sucks. For home use I'll never buy another MS product, I've
> > got all Google Docs. -Curt
>
> I use an older version of Openoffice.org since MS doesn't port Word to
> Linux. Even if they did, I wouldn't use it.
>
>
> Craig
>
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Re: [MBZ] Facts

[Mountain Man via Mercedes]

Gerry wrote:
> Banning personal weapons in the hopes of saving that 0.05% is such a 
> silly idea, it makes one wonder if its advocates might have ulterior motives.
>

One thing for sure - law and regulation has lost sight of intention.
We are tied up in the underwear of law and regulation rather than
intent.  The intent is... shall we morph this topic to
fill-in-the-blank?
Intention is: protection of all carried out by all.
Thanks.
mao

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Re: [MBZ] Facts

[archer75--- via Mercedes]

On Thu, 5 Mar 2015 18:25:02 -0500
Scott Ritchey via Mercedes  wrote:

> I see the error now.  We should have banned movie theaters.
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From:  Addison Thompson via Mercedes
> > Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2015 2:25 PM
> > 
> > IMNSHO the problem is one group's attempt to control morality and illegal
> > behavior by controlling a "thing," i.e. the guns, instead of focusing on
> the
> > actual behavior of the small number of misbehaving individuals.
> > 
> > For example, some nut-job shoots up a movie theater and the response from
> > some is to try to ban the tool that he used rather than advocate for more
> > mental health programs to deal with the cause of the shooting. As Dan
> said,
> > there is a need for more mental health resources for those that need it.
> > 
> > In so doing, the controls advocated by the ban group infringe on the
> rights of
> > the vast majority that do not exhibit the criminal behavior thus setting
> up this
> > endless discussion.
> > 
> > Regards,
> > Addison
> > (who advocates for my right to self-defense)
> > 

During the 20 years from 1995 to 2015 there was average yearly enrollment of 
30,000,000 grade school (grades 1 to 8) students enrolled in U.S. schools. 
During that same period 168 people were killed in school shootings, and this 
ignores the number enrolled in high schools.
That means the percent of grade and high school students killed was something 
much less than 0.05% of students killed.
Banning personal weapons in the hopes of saving that 0.05% is such a silly 
idea, it makes one wonder if its advocates might have ulterior motives.
Gerry 

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[MBZ] Subject: Re: Facts

[Bob via Mercedes]

"I bought a new hearing aid, best kind money can buy. Cost me $8000."  

WHAT  ???  You just got ripped off. What make is it  ??  I'm 
profoundly deaf & the most powerful one cost me $1800 but I got  a deal cause 
the 
guy is my friend. Mine usually goes for $2300 max. Most times  $8000 will 
buy you 2 aids and lots of those guys will make you buy 2. 
 
I'm sorry I'm late on these threads
 
Bob
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[MBZ] Subject: Re: Facts

[Bob via Mercedes]

Hearing aid info:  I was born deaf due to my  mother having measles in 
1950. I only hear 40 % in my left ear,hardly anything  in my right ear. 
Therefore I grew up with a "box" hearing aid that I wore on my  chest, clipped 
onto my white sleeveless " muscle "  undershirt. I hated summer cause I had 
to wear another shirt over top to hold  the hearing aid as well cover it. It 
was the most powerful one made by  Zenith powered by a 22 1/2 volt battery. 
It wasn't til 1972 that Oticon from  Denmark broke the barrier with the BTE 
[behind the ear] So after college I  wore these types & life got better. I 
am an excellent lip reader & with  my high IQ I went to normal high school 
[popular too because of my athletic  abilities & they accepted me] I finished 
college in 3 1/2 years.
 
   Siemens & Starkey are good brands as well as few  othersStay away 
from Miracle Ear cause they are a rip-off. Go to an  accredited audiologists . 
 Today they have chips in the aids that cuts off  background noise in 
restaurants & the like. Also there are in the ear types  that are really 
good.Find somebody who'll let you try different types without  having to buy it 
outright. Do not rush into it because there are so many  types now. Hope this 
some help to my fellow "deafies" out  there..LOL .  Please contact me 
if you need more help on  this
 
Bob
[Who never hears stereo ]
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Re: [MBZ] OT: MS

[Peter Frederick via Mercedes]

We were "upgraded" at work when we got new computers, and the default  
colors leave the sliders almost exactly the same shade as the rest of  
the frame.


Someone allowed the children to play with it, there was no reason to  
"redo" all the menus other than ants in the pants, the programs work  
as poorly as always and use stupid default everything.  I suppose no  
one at Microsoft writes anything but memos.


I detest the new version, and would glady dump it for a 1990 version  
of WordPerfect.  At least I get to decide how to set up documents that  
way.


Peter

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[MBZ] Global warming? No, Global ice age.

[archer75--- via Mercedes]

The “brutal” winter is on the attack again, bringing sleet and heavy snow to 
the mid-Atlantic region. Previous storms targeted the deep south including 
Dallas, Texas, and several hammered New England. By March 4, Boston was just 2 
inches away from hitting an all-time record for snow, Boston.com reported.

It’s a reality more in keeping with media warnings from the 1970s than today’s 
arguments about global warming. 

Then, CBS anchor Walter Cronkite, the dean of American journalism, was warning 
about an "ice age." Cronkite cited scientific claims that the Earth was cooling 
and "the full extent of the new ice age won't be reached for 10,000 years." 

That's completely different from the media's line today that global warming is 
settled sciencesnip

http://newsbusters.org/blogs/julia-seymour/2015/03/05/and-thats-way-it-was-1972-cronkite-warned-new-ice-age

Makes sense, doesn't it?
Gerry



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Re: [MBZ] 1989 560 SEC Electrical glitch

[Peter Frederick via Mercedes]

On my brother's SDL this was a wire at the trunk hinge for the trunk  
lamp that rubbed through.


Check and repair BEFORE you burn up the harness.  Took a couple  
evenings and a lot of taking things apart and splicing to fix the  
burned wires, the trunk lamp feed runs through the main bundle to the  
taillights.


Peter

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Re: [MBZ] Facts

[Scott Ritchey via Mercedes]

The witness Amanda showed excellent judgment by leaving.  When it is safe to
do so, escape is almost always the best option.  The real first rule in a
gun fight is "don't get shot."  Which reminds me, I need to renew my CCP
later this year.

> -Original Message-
> From:  Penoff via Mercedes
> Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2015 5:48 PM
> 
> I'm not taking sides on the issue either way, but I thought this was
rather
> timely considering the conversation:
> 
> http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/mcdonald-s-shooting-on-danforth-
> leaves-2-dead-
> 1.2977019?cmp=fbtl&utm_content=buffercabe2&utm_medium=social&utm_s
> ource=facebook.com&utm_campaign=buffer
> 
> Dan
> 


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Re: [MBZ] Facts

[Scott Ritchey via Mercedes]

I see the error now.  We should have banned movie theaters.

> -Original Message-
> From:  Addison Thompson via Mercedes
> Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2015 2:25 PM
> 
> IMNSHO the problem is one group's attempt to control morality and illegal
> behavior by controlling a "thing," i.e. the guns, instead of focusing on
the
> actual behavior of the small number of misbehaving individuals.
> 
> For example, some nut-job shoots up a movie theater and the response from
> some is to try to ban the tool that he used rather than advocate for more
> mental health programs to deal with the cause of the shooting. As Dan
said,
> there is a need for more mental health resources for those that need it.
> 
> In so doing, the controls advocated by the ban group infringe on the
rights of
> the vast majority that do not exhibit the criminal behavior thus setting
up this
> endless discussion.
> 
> Regards,
> Addison
> (who advocates for my right to self-defense)
> 
> 


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Re: [MBZ] OT: MS

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Thu, 5 Mar 2015 22:22:45 + (UTC) Curt Raymond via Mercedes
 wrote:

> Ugh, I hate the new version. It turns on doublespace automatically
> which I hate, I turn it off and it turns it back on. Its SUPER
> intrusive in auto formatting (badly) everything I write and the new
> interface sucks. For home use I'll never buy another MS product, I've
> got all Google Docs. -Curt

I use an older version of Openoffice.org since MS doesn't port Word to
Linux. Even if they did, I wouldn't use it.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] OT: FCC & Net Neutrality

[Scott Ritchey via Mercedes]

Not unlike selling people mortgages they could not afford to "help" them.

> -Original Message-
> From:  On Behalf Of clay  via Mercedes
> Sent: Monday, March 02, 2015 7:49 PM
> 
> Osamacare is turning into a flaming turd in secondary ways for many of the
> people who can not afford mistakes.
> ...


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Re: [MBZ] This looks like it might be a pretty nice 140

[Rich Thomas via Mercedes]

Yeah but the growl of those piston engines...  and real propellers!

I almost felt like I should be wearing a suit and tie and smoking Lucky 
Strikes while a "girl" in a snazzy dress with a little hat worn at a 
jaunty angle was serving me a martinus in a real glass.


--R



On 3/5/15 4:28 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes wrote:

I will bet it was noisy.

RB

On 05/03/2015 1:23 PM, OK Don via Mercedes wrote:

That would be really cool - -

On Thu, Mar 5, 2015 at 12:22 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

Some years ago I got to fly on the world's highest-time DC-3 in 
passenger
service, from Hyannis to Nantucket, flown by Provincetown-Boston 
Airways
(PBA)  It was a gorgeous plane with the old-style big comfy seats, 
2x2 and

lots of legroom.  I was disappointed the flight was only 15min, I would
have gone transatlantic on it!

--R







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Re: [MBZ] OT: MS

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

Ugh, I hate the new version. It turns on doublespace automatically which I 
hate, I turn it off and it turns it back on. Its SUPER intrusive in auto 
formatting (badly) everything I write and the new interface sucks.
For home use I'll never buy another MS product, I've got all Google Docs.
-Curt
  From: Scott Ritchey via Mercedes 
 To: 'Mercedes Discussion List'  
 Sent: Thursday, March 5, 2015 5:20 PM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: MS
   
Microsoft's support policy forced me to "upgrade" from Office 2003 to 2013.
I was pretty handy with several older versions but I find working with 2013
a bit like playing  "Where's Waldo".  I know the needed feature must be
there somewhere but finding the icon can be a real chore.  Fortunately,
right-click still works for many things.  So far (a year) I haven't found
any useful improvements over 2003.


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Re: [MBZ] OT: MS

[Scott Ritchey via Mercedes]

Microsoft's support policy forced me to "upgrade" from Office 2003 to 2013.
I was pretty handy with several older versions but I find working with 2013
a bit like playing  "Where's Waldo".  I know the needed feature must be
there somewhere but finding the icon can be a real chore.  Fortunately,
right-click still works for many things.  So far (a year) I haven't found
any useful improvements over 2003.


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Re: [MBZ] OT: FCC & Net Neutrality

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

I have two choices for ISP, Comcast or Verizon. Comcast offers faster service 
but requires me to pay a $200 "setup fee" for which they'll do exactly nothing. 
Nobody comes to my house, no wires are moved, nothing.
Verizon is a little cheaper but its also slower. Recently we've had trouble 
with it getting so slow my phone was faster. Similar to Craig's situation while 
Verizon actually provides the DSL line my service is through DSL Extreme. This 
costs me a couple bucks extra a month but means I don't have to deal with 
Verizon directly.
I complained and DSL Extreme got on Verizon's case. It turns out my DSLAM 
(digital subscriber line access multiplexer) is overloaded. They moved me to 
another DSLAM which is also overloaded but not as overloaded as the first one 
and things have gotten better.
The problem is there are effectively zero consumer protections here. I'm paying 
for 3Mb/s and if I get 2.5Mb/s thats adequate but there is in fact no bottom 
limit. I could get 100Kb/s and as long as I'm connected Verizon is safe. Since 
there are no consumer protections and effectively no choices since Comcast is 
consistently rated one of the worst companies in the world, Verizon has no push 
to upgrade infrastructure...
-Curt
  From: Craig via Mercedes 
 To: Mercedes Discussion List  
 Sent: Thursday, March 5, 2015 4:30 PM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: FCC & Net Neutrality
   
On Fri, 27 Feb 2015 17:20:35 -0500 Tim Crone via Mercedes
 wrote:

> A year ago, AT&T was blocking Netflix; Verizon sold Durham to
> Frontier, who is just horrid; Time Warner will send you to collections
> even if you are paid up, doesn't provide service, etc. etc..  Same
> issues for everyone.  We all hate all the local providers.  Network
> neutrality was one of the few things we all agreed on, at least to a
> few months back. (The big challenge is reasonable network management,
> but ultimately you have to trust the company to do the right thing, or
> else regulate them to do something specific.)

Wow! We have it good here in New Mexico!

We have telephone service through CenturyLink. They provide our DSL
service and send the stream to South West Cyber Port, our ISP. SWCP
is a small, very service-oriented company. They have been very helpful
with our dealings with CenturyLink (to get the DSL line working properly)
and updated our Cisco 877 DSL modem and provided a programming script
without charge. They are hosting our two domains and all our email
accounts. We will continue to use them after we move to Indiana.


> The rules do not guarantee access like the CLECs used to have, at least
> according to the FCC commissioner.

What's a CLEC?


Craig



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Re: [MBZ] OT: Parental Control Hardware

[Randy Bennell via Mercedes]

On 05/03/2015 3:49 PM, Scott Ritchey via Mercedes wrote:

I'm looking for advice on parental control hardware (router or inline box)
for Wi-Fi at out church.  .  Our church decided to install
internet service at the church, including Wi-Fi.  There are several benefits
to this but I'm concerned about inappropriate use, particularly by the young
folks. 
Scott

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H ...how about inappropriate use by the priest???

RB

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Re: [MBZ] This looks like it might be a pretty nice 140

[Scott Ritchey via Mercedes]

Same here.  Frustrating!  We have (overpriced) Time Warner cable TV which
has a news/weather channel (14 here) .  They have a weather report every 10
minutes including a more detailed report every 30 minutes.  That is my main
source for weather info now plus internet.

"Reality show" and "political correctness" are oxymorons.

> -Original Message-
> From:  Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
> Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2015 1:03 PM
> 
> Every time I want to know news on the latest weather crisis I tune to the
> Weather Channel, but it seems they are showing some outdoorsy reality
show,
> e.g. "Dumber than dumb Prospectors" or some such drivel.
> 


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[MBZ] OT: Parental Control Hardware

[Scott Ritchey via Mercedes]

I'm looking for advice on parental control hardware (router or inline box)
for Wi-Fi at out church.  My kids left home before the advent of the
internet so I never had to deal with this.  Our church decided to install
internet service at the church, including Wi-Fi.  There are several benefits
to this but I'm concerned about inappropriate use, particularly by the young
folks.  A little Google searching turned up SkyDog (no longer available),
BUC Tools box or router (looks promising),  iBoss router, and several
Linksys routers that have parental controls.  

Having zero first-hand experience (and knowing the vast and deep pool of
arcane expertise available on this list) I thought I'd solicit experience or
expertise on this subject.  Thanks.

Scott

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Re: [MBZ] AT Does not engage 1st

[Randy Bennell via Mercedes]

On 05/03/2015 2:58 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes wrote:

I'd be tempted to remove the valve body, take it apart for a good cleaning.


I have mentioned this before.
A friend got many more miles out of the transmission in a Pontiac 6000 
by pouring a pint of brake fluid into the transmission.

Swells the seals I suppose.

RB

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Re: [MBZ] OT: FCC & Net Neutrality

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Fri, 27 Feb 2015 17:20:35 -0500 Tim Crone via Mercedes
 wrote:

> A year ago, AT&T was blocking Netflix; Verizon sold Durham to
> Frontier, who is just horrid; Time Warner will send you to collections
> even if you are paid up, doesn't provide service, etc. etc..  Same
> issues for everyone.  We all hate all the local providers.  Network
> neutrality was one of the few things we all agreed on, at least to a
> few months back. (The big challenge is reasonable network management,
> but ultimately you have to trust the company to do the right thing, or
> else regulate them to do something specific.)

Wow! We have it good here in New Mexico!

We have telephone service through CenturyLink. They provide our DSL
service and send the stream to South West Cyber Port, our ISP. SWCP
is a small, very service-oriented company. They have been very helpful
with our dealings with CenturyLink (to get the DSL line working properly)
and updated our Cisco 877 DSL modem and provided a programming script
without charge. They are hosting our two domains and all our email
accounts. We will continue to use them after we move to Indiana.


> The rules do not guarantee access like the CLECs used to have, at least
> according to the FCC commissioner.

What's a CLEC?


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] This looks like it might be a pretty nice 140

[Randy Bennell via Mercedes]

I will bet it was noisy.

RB

On 05/03/2015 1:23 PM, OK Don via Mercedes wrote:

That would be really cool - -

On Thu, Mar 5, 2015 at 12:22 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:


Some years ago I got to fly on the world's highest-time DC-3 in passenger
service, from Hyannis to Nantucket, flown by Provincetown-Boston Airways
(PBA)  It was a gorgeous plane with the old-style big comfy seats, 2x2 and
lots of legroom.  I was disappointed the flight was only 15min, I would
have gone transatlantic on it!

--R







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Re: [MBZ] AT Does not engage 1st

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

I'd be tempted to remove the valve body, take it apart for a good cleaning.
-- 
Max Dillon
Charleston SC
'87 300TD
'95 E300
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Re: [MBZ] AT Does not engage 1st

[LarryT via Mercedes]

You are correct.  Sun Valley said to use Dexron.  I figured they should 
know what works and what doesn't.  I have changed it at 25K intervals as 
Sun Valley said that was  needed to keep the warranty in place.


The warranty expired  about 4 months before the shifting problem 
started.   Naturally. ;-\


I added Zmax but after ~1200 miles the shifting has  not improved.

I have another 3000 miles before I get to the 25K change interval - at 
that time I'll go to full synthetic ATF.   we'll see if that helps -


Sorry about the delay in responding --
Larry
91 300D

On 12/5/2014 4:02 PM, Curt Raymond wrote:
You've tried changing the fluid? Using Mobil 1? I seem to remember 
your saying the rebuilder had told you not to use Mobil 1 which seems 
strange to me since so many of us (myself included) have had excellent 
luck with it.


If it occasionally works I'd guess varnish in the valves. IIRC you 
don't drive a whole bunch. Assuming thats true and assuming you're not 
using Mobil 1 thats the first thing I'd do, then go out and drive the 
stink out of it. Maybe some of the magic elixer somebody else 
mentioned. I know you don't believe in better living through chemistry 
but if the problem is really a sticky valve and not a component 
failure chemistry is the way to go...


-Curt


*From:* LarryT via Mercedes 
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*Sent:* Friday, December 5, 2014 3:32 PM
*Subject:* [MBZ] AT Does not engage 1st

Hello --
About 4 years ago I bought one of Rusty's rebuilt AT''s.  It was
fine until about 3-4 months after the 2 year warranty expired when it
stopped engaging 1st.  it occasionally works but mostly it doesn't.  The
kick-down works perfectly for the 4-3 shift.

I asked the list when it 1st happened and rec'd a couple of
suggestions - the thing that baffles me the most is that it works for
4-3 but not for 2-1.

It's been a long time since I've been inside a AT and I can't think
of what might be the problem.  Maybe dirt in the valve body? maybe a
bad solenoid or something?

any ideas?

Thx
LarryT
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Re: [MBZ] Facts now Fonts now Telling your Benz what to do

[Rich Thomas via Mercedes]

Could it understand Okie?

--R


On 3/5/15 11:02 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes wrote:

My GL had that sort of deal

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>On Mar 5, 2015, at 9:04 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes  
wrote:
>
>So the new MamaML has a deal where you can talk to it and tell it what to do.  
You push a button on the steering wheel then you tell it to navigate to some 
address or place you have saved, or change the radio or music on your pod or call 
someone or do various other things.  She has tried it but apparently they don't 
understand each other too well yet.  She finds the soul in the machine to be 
pleasant enough, however, when it tells her what to do, unlike her views toward me 
while doing the same.  It has also assimilated her phone into it so it can call 
people or send texts or do other things phone-wise, and apparently can also suck 
in 10GB or 80GB of music to its memory banks.
>
>I find this whole thing somewhat disturbing yet intriguing.
>
>It has a rotating pushbutton mouse joystick sort of thing too to whiz around 
the screen if you don't want to talk to it.  The instruction book is about 400 
pages long.
>
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Re: [MBZ] 1989 560 SEC Electrical glitch

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

Similar to the way my Jetta has it in a foam box stuffed in a pocket above and 
behind the rear wheel.
-Curt

  From: Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
 To: Mercedes List  
 Sent: Thursday, March 5, 2015 3:00 PM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1989 560 SEC Electrical glitch
   
Could be that way in later versions. I know in my 82 300SD it was inside a foam 
"football" shaped piece in the spare tire well.

Dan

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> On Mar 5, 2015, at 2:15 PM, WILTON  wrote:
> 
> Oh, well, maybe a coupe has in spare tire well, then.  My (Tim's) 126 350SDL 
> has it under right, rear seat.
> 
> Wilton
> 
> - Original Message - From: "Dan Penoff via Mercedes" 
> 
> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
> Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2015 12:36 PM
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1989 560 SEC Electrical glitch
> 
> 
>> It's a W126 so the pump will be in a "football" in the spare tire well.
>> 
>> Dan
>> 
>> Sent from my iPad
>> 
>>> On Mar 5, 2015, at 12:12 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Assuming the locks are similar to a W201 there will be an electric vacuum 
>>> pump under the rear seat. If I were to troubleshoot this the first thing I 
>>> would do would be to unplug it. If the fuse stops failing replace the pump. 
>>> If you get a picture of it I've got a pump from an '85 190D that doesn't 
>>> fit my '84 I'd let him have for a good price.
>>> -Curt
>>> 
>>>    From: Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
>>> To: Mercedes Discussion List 
>>> Sent: Thursday, March 5, 2015 11:01 AM
>>> Subject: [MBZ] 1989 560 SEC Electrical glitch
>>> 
>>> A friend has a nice 1989 560 SE C with an annoying electrical glitch.
>>> 
>>> it keeps on blowing the fuse in box 15, which, according to him, controls
>>> the front dome light and doors and trunk combo lock.  I assumed than in
>>> 1989 the locking system was vacuum controlled, but he swears they are
>>> governed by this fuse.  Anyway, what could be causing the problem?
>>> 
>>> Andrew
>>> Hasn't owned a gas car in 5 years
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Re: [MBZ] 1989 560 SEC Electrical glitch

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Could be that way in later versions. I know in my 82 300SD it was inside a foam 
"football" shaped piece in the spare tire well.

Dan

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> On Mar 5, 2015, at 2:15 PM, WILTON  wrote:
> 
> Oh, well, maybe a coupe has in spare tire well, then.  My (Tim's) 126 350SDL 
> has it under right, rear seat.
> 
> Wilton
> 
> - Original Message - From: "Dan Penoff via Mercedes" 
> 
> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
> Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2015 12:36 PM
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1989 560 SEC Electrical glitch
> 
> 
>> It's a W126 so the pump will be in a "football" in the spare tire well.
>> 
>> Dan
>> 
>> Sent from my iPad
>> 
>>> On Mar 5, 2015, at 12:12 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Assuming the locks are similar to a W201 there will be an electric vacuum 
>>> pump under the rear seat. If I were to troubleshoot this the first thing I 
>>> would do would be to unplug it. If the fuse stops failing replace the pump. 
>>> If you get a picture of it I've got a pump from an '85 190D that doesn't 
>>> fit my '84 I'd let him have for a good price.
>>> -Curt
>>> 
>>> From: Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
>>> To: Mercedes Discussion List 
>>> Sent: Thursday, March 5, 2015 11:01 AM
>>> Subject: [MBZ] 1989 560 SEC Electrical glitch
>>> 
>>> A friend has a nice 1989 560 SE C with an annoying electrical glitch.
>>> 
>>> it keeps on blowing the fuse in box 15, which, according to him, controls
>>> the front dome light and doors and trunk combo lock.  I assumed than in
>>> 1989 the locking system was vacuum controlled, but he swears they are
>>> governed by this fuse.  Anyway, what could be causing the problem?
>>> 
>>> Andrew
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Re: [MBZ] This looks like it might be a pretty nice 140

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That would be really cool - -

On Thu, Mar 5, 2015 at 12:22 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Some years ago I got to fly on the world's highest-time DC-3 in passenger
> service, from Hyannis to Nantucket, flown by Provincetown-Boston Airways
> (PBA)  It was a gorgeous plane with the old-style big comfy seats, 2x2 and
> lots of legroom.  I was disappointed the flight was only 15min, I would
> have gone transatlantic on it!
>
> --R
>
>


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Re: [MBZ] 1989 560 SEC Electrical glitch

[WILTON via Mercedes]

Oh, well, maybe a coupe has in spare tire well, then.  My (Tim's) 126 350SDL 
has it under right, rear seat.


Wilton

- Original Message - 
From: "Dan Penoff via Mercedes" 

To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2015 12:36 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1989 560 SEC Electrical glitch



It's a W126 so the pump will be in a "football" in the spare tire well.

Dan

Sent from my iPad

On Mar 5, 2015, at 12:12 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
 wrote:


Assuming the locks are similar to a W201 there will be an electric vacuum 
pump under the rear seat. If I were to troubleshoot this the first thing 
I would do would be to unplug it. If the fuse stops failing replace the 
pump. If you get a picture of it I've got a pump from an '85 190D that 
doesn't fit my '84 I'd let him have for a good price.

-Curt

 From: Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
To: Mercedes Discussion List 
Sent: Thursday, March 5, 2015 11:01 AM
Subject: [MBZ] 1989 560 SEC Electrical glitch

A friend has a nice 1989 560 SE C with an annoying electrical glitch.

it keeps on blowing the fuse in box 15, which, according to him, controls
the front dome light and doors and trunk combo lock.  I assumed than in
1989 the locking system was vacuum controlled, but he swears they are
governed by this fuse.  Anyway, what could be causing the problem?

Andrew
Hasn't owned a gas car in 5 years
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Re: [MBZ] 1989 560 SEC Electrical glitch

[WILTON via Mercedes]

Pump usually under right, rear seat.

Wilton

- Original Message - 
From: "Curt Raymond via Mercedes" 

To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2015 12:12 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1989 560 SEC Electrical glitch


Assuming the locks are similar to a W201 there will be an electric vacuum 
pump under the rear seat. If I were to troubleshoot this the first thing I 
would do would be to unplug it. If the fuse stops failing replace the 
pump. If you get a picture of it I've got a pump from an '85 190D that 
doesn't fit my '84 I'd let him have for a good price.

-Curt

 From: Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
To: Mercedes Discussion List 
Sent: Thursday, March 5, 2015 11:01 AM
Subject: [MBZ] 1989 560 SEC Electrical glitch

A friend has a nice 1989 560 SE C with an annoying electrical glitch.

it keeps on blowing the fuse in box 15, which, according to him, controls
the front dome light and doors and trunk combo lock. I assumed than in
1989 the locking system was vacuum controlled, but he swears they are
governed by this fuse. Anyway, what could be causing the problem?

Andrew
Hasn't owned a gas car in 5 years
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Re: [MBZ] This looks like it might be a pretty nice 140

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As a side note, the company I work for used to own the weather channel

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> On Mar 5, 2015, at 1:10 PM, WILTON via Mercedes  wrote:
> 
> Well, maybe the Wx channel is appropriate - they certainly have plenty of it.
> 
> Wilton
> 
> - Original Message - From: "Curt Raymond via Mercedes" 
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> Subject: Re: [MBZ] This looks like it might be a pretty nice 140
> 
> 
>> The Weather Channel of all places.
>> Fred owns the DVDs of the first four seasons which he graciously loaned to 
>> me. It appears the 6th season is on Youtube but I don't want to watch it 
>> without seeing the 5th first.
>> -Curt
>> From: wiltonw--- via Mercedes 
>> To: Randy Bennell ; Mercedes Discussion List 
>> 
>> Sent: Thursday, March 5, 2015 11:51 AM
>> Subject: Re: [MBZ] This looks like it might be a pretty nice 140
>> 
>> Yep, enjoyed the show, but haven't seen it in a year or more. What network 
>> are they on?
>> 
>> Wilton
>> 
>>  Randy Bennell via Mercedes  wrote:
>>> Have you ever watched "Icepilots" TV show about Buffalo Airways out of
>>> Yellowknife?
>>> They are still flying a daily scheduled trip north out of Yellowknife
>>> with DC3's that are 70 or more years old.
>>> The only thing that may bring this to an end appears to be a shortage of
>>> aviation fuel.
>>> 
>>> RB
>>> 
>>> On 04/03/2015 10:37 PM, OK Don via Mercedes wrote:
>>> > Still a whippersnapper! My Cessna is in it's 58th year and still > flying 
>>> > -
>>> > TWICE as old!
>>> >
>>> > On Wed, Mar 4, 2015 at 10:20 PM, WILTON via Mercedes > 
>>> > 
>>> > wrote:
>>> >
>>> >> A whippersnapper! Mine's in it's 29th year. 141 kmi
>>> >>
>>> >> Wilton
>>> >>
>>> >> That car has come of age - it's 21! Amazing!!
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Re: [MBZ] This looks like it might be a pretty nice 140

[WILTON via Mercedes]

Well, maybe the Wx channel is appropriate - they certainly have plenty of 
it.


Wilton

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Subject: Re: [MBZ] This looks like it might be a pretty nice 140



The Weather Channel of all places.
Fred owns the DVDs of the first four seasons which he graciously loaned to 
me. It appears the 6th season is on Youtube but I don't want to watch it 
without seeing the 5th first.

-Curt
 From: wiltonw--- via Mercedes 
To: Randy Bennell ; Mercedes Discussion List 


Sent: Thursday, March 5, 2015 11:51 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] This looks like it might be a pretty nice 140

Yep, enjoyed the show, but haven't seen it in a year or more. What network 
are they on?


Wilton

 Randy Bennell via Mercedes  wrote:

Have you ever watched "Icepilots" TV show about Buffalo Airways out of
Yellowknife?
They are still flying a daily scheduled trip north out of Yellowknife
with DC3's that are 70 or more years old.
The only thing that may bring this to an end appears to be a shortage of
aviation fuel.

RB

On 04/03/2015 10:37 PM, OK Don via Mercedes wrote:
> Still a whippersnapper! My Cessna is in it's 58th year and still 
> flying -

> TWICE as old!
>
> On Wed, Mar 4, 2015 at 10:20 PM, WILTON via Mercedes 
> 

> wrote:
>
>> A whippersnapper! Mine's in it's 29th year. 141 kmi
>>
>> Wilton
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>> That car has come of age - it's 21! Amazing!!


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Re: [MBZ] This looks like it might be a pretty nice 140

[Rich Thomas via Mercedes]

Some years ago I got to fly on the world's highest-time DC-3 in 
passenger service, from Hyannis to Nantucket, flown by 
Provincetown-Boston Airways (PBA)  It was a gorgeous plane with the 
old-style big comfy seats, 2x2 and lots of legroom.  I was disappointed 
the flight was only 15min, I would have gone transatlantic on it!


--R



On 3/5/15 11:35 AM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes wrote:
They are still flying a daily scheduled trip north out of Yellowknife 
with DC3's that are 70 or more years old. 



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Re: [MBZ] 1989 560 SEC Electrical glitch

[OK Don via Mercedes]

It's possible that the insulation is worn off a wire in a hinge area, and
shorts intermittently as the wire bounces around.

On Thu, Mar 5, 2015 at 10:21 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
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> The fuse doesn't blow right away, so I don't think so, but I'll pass this
> on.  Thanks!
>
>
>


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Re: [MBZ] This looks like it might be a pretty nice 140

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Every time I want to know news on the latest weather crisis I tune to the
Weather Channel, but it seems they are showing some outdoorsy reality show,
e.g. "Dumber than dumb Prospectors" or some such drivel.

On Thu, Mar 5, 2015 at 12:10 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
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> The Weather Channel of all places.
> Fred owns the DVDs of the first four seasons which he graciously loaned to
> me. It appears the 6th season is on Youtube but I don't want to watch it
> without seeing the 5th first.
> -Curt
>   From: wiltonw--- via Mercedes 
>  To: Randy Bennell ; Mercedes Discussion List <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com>
>  Sent: Thursday, March 5, 2015 11:51 AM
>  Subject: Re: [MBZ] This looks like it might be a pretty nice 140
>
> Yep, enjoyed the show, but haven't seen it in a year or more.  What
> network are they on?
>
> Wilton
>
>  Randy Bennell via Mercedes  wrote:
> > Have you ever watched "Icepilots" TV show about Buffalo Airways out of
> > Yellowknife?
> > They are still flying a daily scheduled trip north out of Yellowknife
> > with DC3's that are 70 or more years old.
> > The only thing that may bring this to an end appears to be a shortage of
> > aviation fuel.
> >
> > RB
> >
> > On 04/03/2015 10:37 PM, OK Don via Mercedes wrote:
> > > Still a whippersnapper! My Cessna is in it's 58th year and still
> flying -
> > > TWICE as old!
> > >
> > > On Wed, Mar 4, 2015 at 10:20 PM, WILTON via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > >> A whippersnapper!  Mine's in it's 29th year.  141 kmi
> > >>
> > >> Wilton
> > >>
> > >>  That car has come of age - it's 21!  Amazing!!
> >
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Re: [MBZ] 1989 560 SEC Electrical glitch

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

It's a W126 so the pump will be in a "football" in the spare tire well.

Dan

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> On Mar 5, 2015, at 12:12 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Assuming the locks are similar to a W201 there will be an electric vacuum 
> pump under the rear seat. If I were to troubleshoot this the first thing I 
> would do would be to unplug it. If the fuse stops failing replace the pump. 
> If you get a picture of it I've got a pump from an '85 190D that doesn't fit 
> my '84 I'd let him have for a good price.
> -Curt
> 
>  From: Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
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> Sent: Thursday, March 5, 2015 11:01 AM
> Subject: [MBZ] 1989 560 SEC Electrical glitch
> 
> A friend has a nice 1989 560 SE C with an annoying electrical glitch.
> 
> it keeps on blowing the fuse in box 15, which, according to him, controls
> the front dome light and doors and trunk combo lock.  I assumed than in
> 1989 the locking system was vacuum controlled, but he swears they are
> governed by this fuse.  Anyway, what could be causing the problem?
> 
> Andrew
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Re: [MBZ] 1989 560 SEC Electrical glitch

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

Assuming the locks are similar to a W201 there will be an electric vacuum pump 
under the rear seat. If I were to troubleshoot this the first thing I would do 
would be to unplug it. If the fuse stops failing replace the pump. If you get a 
picture of it I've got a pump from an '85 190D that doesn't fit my '84 I'd let 
him have for a good price.
-Curt

  From: Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
 To: Mercedes Discussion List  
 Sent: Thursday, March 5, 2015 11:01 AM
 Subject: [MBZ] 1989 560 SEC Electrical glitch
   
A friend has a nice 1989 560 SE C with an annoying electrical glitch.

it keeps on blowing the fuse in box 15, which, according to him, controls
the front dome light and doors and trunk combo lock.  I assumed than in
1989 the locking system was vacuum controlled, but he swears they are
governed by this fuse.  Anyway, what could be causing the problem?

Andrew
Hasn't owned a gas car in 5 years
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Re: [MBZ] This looks like it might be a pretty nice 140

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

Not only have I seen all of the first 4 seasons I have a sweatshirt a friend 
bought me at the hanger in Yellowknife. Apparently Mikey was great and said 
"You know, he could have just bought this online." but then of course it 
wouldn't have been bought from Mikey in the hanger in Yellowknife. Fortunately 
my friend gets it...
Sadly my friend didn't do the sked to Hayriver. I totally would have...
-Curt

  From: Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
 To: OK Don ; Mercedes Discussion List 
 
 Sent: Thursday, March 5, 2015 11:35 AM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] This looks like it might be a pretty nice 140
   
Have you ever watched "Icepilots" TV show about Buffalo Airways out of 
Yellowknife?
They are still flying a daily scheduled trip north out of Yellowknife 
with DC3's that are 70 or more years old.
The only thing that may bring this to an end appears to be a shortage of 
aviation fuel.

RB



On 04/03/2015 10:37 PM, OK Don via Mercedes wrote:
> Still a whippersnapper! My Cessna is in it's 58th year and still flying -
> TWICE as old!
>
> On Wed, Mar 4, 2015 at 10:20 PM, WILTON via Mercedes 
> wrote:
>
>> A whippersnapper!  Mine's in it's 29th year.  141 kmi
>>
>> Wilton
>>
>>  That car has come of age - it's 21!  Amazing!!


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Re: [MBZ] This looks like it might be a pretty nice 140

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

The Weather Channel of all places.
Fred owns the DVDs of the first four seasons which he graciously loaned to me. 
It appears the 6th season is on Youtube but I don't want to watch it without 
seeing the 5th first.
-Curt
  From: wiltonw--- via Mercedes 
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 Sent: Thursday, March 5, 2015 11:51 AM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] This looks like it might be a pretty nice 140
   
Yep, enjoyed the show, but haven't seen it in a year or more.  What network are 
they on?

Wilton

 Randy Bennell via Mercedes  wrote: 
> Have you ever watched "Icepilots" TV show about Buffalo Airways out of 
> Yellowknife?
> They are still flying a daily scheduled trip north out of Yellowknife 
> with DC3's that are 70 or more years old.
> The only thing that may bring this to an end appears to be a shortage of 
> aviation fuel.
> 
> RB
> 
> On 04/03/2015 10:37 PM, OK Don via Mercedes wrote:
> > Still a whippersnapper! My Cessna is in it's 58th year and still flying -
> > TWICE as old!
> >
> > On Wed, Mar 4, 2015 at 10:20 PM, WILTON via Mercedes 
> > wrote:
> >
> >> A whippersnapper!  Mine's in it's 29th year.  141 kmi
> >>
> >> Wilton
> >>
> >>  That car has come of age - it's 21!  Amazing!!
> 
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Re: [MBZ] This looks like it might be a pretty nice 140

[wiltonw--- via Mercedes]

Yep, enjoyed the show, but haven't seen it in a year or more.  What network are 
they on?

Wilton

 Randy Bennell via Mercedes  wrote: 
> Have you ever watched "Icepilots" TV show about Buffalo Airways out of 
> Yellowknife?
> They are still flying a daily scheduled trip north out of Yellowknife 
> with DC3's that are 70 or more years old.
> The only thing that may bring this to an end appears to be a shortage of 
> aviation fuel.
> 
> RB
> 
> On 04/03/2015 10:37 PM, OK Don via Mercedes wrote:
> > Still a whippersnapper! My Cessna is in it's 58th year and still flying -
> > TWICE as old!
> >
> > On Wed, Mar 4, 2015 at 10:20 PM, WILTON via Mercedes 
> > wrote:
> >
> >> A whippersnapper!  Mine's in it's 29th year.  141 kmi
> >>
> >> Wilton
> >>
> >>   That car has come of age - it's 21!  Amazing!!
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Facts now Fonts now Telling your Benz what to do

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Still a fine little lady growing up fast.

Wilton

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> Yesterday my wife called me at work with a question about MS Word and
> adding/importing clipart.  I didn't know enough to talk her through it over
> the phone, best I could offer was "press F1 to bring up the Help dialogue,
> use the search function there and follow the directions."
> 
> Right after I said that, our 8-year old (who was home sick with a fever)
> happened upon the scene, and I hear "I can show you Mommy, press this..."
> and help was rendered (and I was off the hook, both figuratively and
> literally).
> 
> I'm thinking we should get the 8-year old a cell phone so Momma can call
> her with her "help desk" questions.
> 
> -Max
> 
> On Thu, Mar 5, 2015 at 10:04 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
> > So the new MamaML has a deal where you can talk to it and tell it what to
> > do.  You push a button on the steering wheel then you tell it to navigate
> > to some address or place you have saved, or change the radio or music on
> > your pod or call someone or do various other things.  She has tried it but
> > apparently they don't understand each other too well yet.  She finds the
> > soul in the machine to be pleasant enough, however, when it tells her what
> > to do, unlike her views toward me while doing the same.  It has also
> > assimilated her phone into it so it can call people or send texts or do
> > other things phone-wise, and apparently can also suck in 10GB or 80GB of
> > music to its memory banks.
> >
> > I find this whole thing somewhat disturbing yet intriguing.
> >
> > It has a rotating pushbutton mouse joystick sort of thing too to whiz
> > around the screen if you don't want to talk to it.  The instruction book is
> > about 400 pages long.
> >
> > --R
> >
> -
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Re: [MBZ] This looks like it might be a pretty nice 140

[Randy Bennell via Mercedes]

Mine is 39 years old. Odometer shows about 14K miles if my memory is 
correct.
Cannot really tell you if it has gone around more than one time. Maybe, 
or maybe not.
I have early records but nothing from the time shortly before I acquired 
it in July 2005. Hard to believe I have had it just about 10 years.

Odometer showed 990 miles when I got it.
I don't believe that either of the 2 previous owners put many miles on 
it so it might only have gone around the one time.
Runs fine so seems of little importance as I am not putting big numbers 
of miles on it obviously.


RB

On 04/03/2015 10:20 PM, WILTON via Mercedes wrote:

A whippersnapper!  Mine's in it's 29th year.  141 kmi

Wilton

- Original Message - From: "Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes" 

To: "Kaleb C. Striplin" ; "Mercedes Discussion 
List" 

Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2015 11:13 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] This looks like it might be a pretty nice 140



That car has come of age - it's 21! Amazing!!

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Re: [MBZ] WAS Facts - NEW OT Riveting

[Randy Bennell via Mercedes]

Thanks Don.
That was useful info.

RB

On 04/03/2015 4:29 PM, OK Don via Mercedes wrote:

I'm not an A&P, but have played one for most of my life. To clarify what
Grant said, the feather trigger lets you modulate the hammering action from
a stroke every second to very fast. You start by setting the rivet in place
with a few slow strokes, then enough fast strokes to get it to the finished
state.

The 2X, 3X, 4X, etc. relates to the length of each stroke, hence the
"power" to mash ever increasing sizes and hardness's of rivets.

IIRC, boats often use larger rivets than I've dealt with in most of my
aircraft work, but they were often softer as well. I doubt that you need
more than a 3X rivet gun.

This is the gun I bought recently, and it works just fine:

http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/topages/rivetset737.php?clickkey=1985735

It has everything you need except and air compressor and the rivets (which
you can find here:
http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/hapages/solidalumrivets2.php).


On Wed, Mar 4, 2015 at 2:46 PM, G Mann via Mercedes 
wrote:


Airframe and Power plant mechanic so I've driven a few thousand rivets
The rivet gun with a "feather trigger" permits you to drive the rivet
without over driving it..

The "stun gun" body shop hammer used for cutting metal and such lacks the
finer control to drive rivets in aluminum..

I suggest you get some aluminum scraps that are as near the composition to
the boats material as you can get and practice driving rivets .. observe
what works, and what doesn't.. you also may want to moderate the air
pressure to the rivet gun to get the "stroke" you need to upset the rivet
properly..

Also important is the bucking bar you use to back the driver.. how you hold
it.. it's weight and surface all play into the compression of the rivet to
make it fill the hole and grip the pieces being joined..

HTH...

Grant...







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Re: [MBZ] This looks like it might be a pretty nice 140

[Randy Bennell via Mercedes]

Have you ever watched "Icepilots" TV show about Buffalo Airways out of 
Yellowknife?
They are still flying a daily scheduled trip north out of Yellowknife 
with DC3's that are 70 or more years old.
The only thing that may bring this to an end appears to be a shortage of 
aviation fuel.


RB

On 04/03/2015 10:37 PM, OK Don via Mercedes wrote:

Still a whippersnapper! My Cessna is in it's 58th year and still flying -
TWICE as old!

On Wed, Mar 4, 2015 at 10:20 PM, WILTON via Mercedes 
wrote:


A whippersnapper!  Mine's in it's 29th year.  141 kmi

Wilton

  That car has come of age - it's 21!  Amazing!!



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Re: [MBZ] 1989 560 SEC Electrical glitch

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

The fuse doesn't blow right away, so I don't think so, but I'll pass this
on.  Thanks!

On Thu, Mar 5, 2015 at 11:04 AM, Meade Dillon  wrote:

> Broken wires in either the doors hinge area or the trunk hinge area?
>
> On Thu, Mar 5, 2015 at 11:01 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
>> A friend has a nice 1989 560 SE C with an annoying electrical glitch.
>>
>> it keeps on blowing the fuse in box 15, which, according to him, controls
>> the front dome light and doors and trunk combo lock.  I assumed than in
>> 1989 the locking system was vacuum controlled, but he swears they are
>> governed by this fuse.  Anyway, what could be causing the problem?
>>
>> Andrew
>> Hasn't owned a gas car in 5 years
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Re: [MBZ] Facts now Fonts

[Randy Bennell via Mercedes]

How is the left hand?
Maybe you can switch?

RB

On 04/03/2015 6:41 PM, wiltonw--- via Mercedes wrote:

I used Dragon Speaking with good results 6 or 8 years ago.  Problem for last 
couple months is tremor of right hand so bad my handwriting is unreadable, even 
by me.

Wilton





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Re: [MBZ] Facts now Fonts now Telling your Benz what to do

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

I think if M could pay in candy or stuffed animals, 8-yr-old would be
willing to train her on the ML?

On Thu, Mar 5, 2015 at 10:48 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes <
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> Bow down and welcome our child overlords
>
> --R
>
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Re: [MBZ] 1989 560 SEC Electrical glitch

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

Broken wires in either the doors hinge area or the trunk hinge area?

On Thu, Mar 5, 2015 at 11:01 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> A friend has a nice 1989 560 SE C with an annoying electrical glitch.
>
> it keeps on blowing the fuse in box 15, which, according to him, controls
> the front dome light and doors and trunk combo lock.  I assumed than in
> 1989 the locking system was vacuum controlled, but he swears they are
> governed by this fuse.  Anyway, what could be causing the problem?
>
> Andrew
> Hasn't owned a gas car in 5 years
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Re: [MBZ] Facts now Fonts now Telling your Benz what to do

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

My GL had that sort of deal

Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 5, 2015, at 9:04 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> So the new MamaML has a deal where you can talk to it and tell it what to do. 
>  You push a button on the steering wheel then you tell it to navigate to some 
> address or place you have saved, or change the radio or music on your pod or 
> call someone or do various other things.  She has tried it but apparently 
> they don't understand each other too well yet.  She finds the soul in the 
> machine to be pleasant enough, however, when it tells her what to do, unlike 
> her views toward me while doing the same.  It has also assimilated her phone 
> into it so it can call people or send texts or do other things phone-wise, 
> and apparently can also suck in 10GB or 80GB of music to its memory banks.
> 
> I find this whole thing somewhat disturbing yet intriguing.
> 
> It has a rotating pushbutton mouse joystick sort of thing too to whiz around 
> the screen if you don't want to talk to it.  The instruction book is about 
> 400 pages long.
> 
> --R
> 
> 
> 
>> On 3/4/15 7:41 PM, wiltonw--- via Mercedes wrote:
>> I used Dragon Speaking with good results 6 or 8 years ago.  Problem for last 
>> couple months is tremor of right hand so bad my handwriting is unreadable, 
>> even by me.
>> 
>> Wilton
>> 
>>  OK Don via Mercedes  wrote:
>>> It is, if you take the time to learn it and to train it to your voice.
>> However, writing with your fingers and dictating text are not usually the
>> same thing. You don't talk like you write. It takes getting used to
>> planning what your are about to say with your mouth the way you do when you
>> write/type.
>> 
>> On Wed, Mar 4, 2015 at 5:23 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> DragonSpeak is supposed to be really good.  I don't have any direct
>>> experience with it, however.
>>> 
>>> Dan
> 
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[MBZ] 1989 560 SEC Electrical glitch

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

A friend has a nice 1989 560 SE C with an annoying electrical glitch.

it keeps on blowing the fuse in box 15, which, according to him, controls
the front dome light and doors and trunk combo lock.  I assumed than in
1989 the locking system was vacuum controlled, but he swears they are
governed by this fuse.  Anyway, what could be causing the problem?

Andrew
Hasn't owned a gas car in 5 years
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Re: [MBZ] Facts now Fonts now Telling your Benz what to do

[Rich Thomas via Mercedes]

Bow down and welcome our child overlords

--R



On 3/5/15 10:40 AM, Meade Dillon wrote:
Yesterday my wife called me at work with a question about MS Word and 
adding/importing clipart.  I didn't know enough to talk her through it 
over the phone, best I could offer was "press F1 to bring up the Help 
dialogue, use the search function there and follow the directions."


Right after I said that, our 8-year old (who was home sick with a 
fever) happened upon the scene, and I hear "I can show you Mommy, 
press this..." and help was rendered (and I was off the hook, both 
figuratively and literally).


I'm thinking we should get the 8-year old a cell phone so Momma can 
call her with her "help desk" questions.


-Max

On Thu, Mar 5, 2015 at 10:04 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes 
mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:


So the new MamaML has a deal where you can talk to it and tell it
what to do.  You push a button on the steering wheel then you tell
it to navigate to some address or place you have saved, or change
the radio or music on your pod or call someone or do various other
things.  She has tried it but apparently they don't understand
each other too well yet. She finds the soul in the machine to be
pleasant enough, however, when it tells her what to do, unlike her
views toward me while doing the same.  It has also assimilated her
phone into it so it can call people or send texts or do other
things phone-wise, and apparently can also suck in 10GB or 80GB of
music to its memory banks.

I find this whole thing somewhat disturbing yet intriguing.

It has a rotating pushbutton mouse joystick sort of thing too to
whiz around the screen if you don't want to talk to it.  The
instruction book is about 400 pages long.

--R

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Charleston SC


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Re: [MBZ] Facts now Fonts now Telling your Benz what to do

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

Yesterday my wife called me at work with a question about MS Word and
adding/importing clipart.  I didn't know enough to talk her through it over
the phone, best I could offer was "press F1 to bring up the Help dialogue,
use the search function there and follow the directions."

Right after I said that, our 8-year old (who was home sick with a fever)
happened upon the scene, and I hear "I can show you Mommy, press this..."
and help was rendered (and I was off the hook, both figuratively and
literally).

I'm thinking we should get the 8-year old a cell phone so Momma can call
her with her "help desk" questions.

-Max

On Thu, Mar 5, 2015 at 10:04 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> So the new MamaML has a deal where you can talk to it and tell it what to
> do.  You push a button on the steering wheel then you tell it to navigate
> to some address or place you have saved, or change the radio or music on
> your pod or call someone or do various other things.  She has tried it but
> apparently they don't understand each other too well yet.  She finds the
> soul in the machine to be pleasant enough, however, when it tells her what
> to do, unlike her views toward me while doing the same.  It has also
> assimilated her phone into it so it can call people or send texts or do
> other things phone-wise, and apparently can also suck in 10GB or 80GB of
> music to its memory banks.
>
> I find this whole thing somewhat disturbing yet intriguing.
>
> It has a rotating pushbutton mouse joystick sort of thing too to whiz
> around the screen if you don't want to talk to it.  The instruction book is
> about 400 pages long.
>
> --R
>
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Charleston SC
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Re: [MBZ] Facts now Fonts now Telling your Benz what to do

[Rich Thomas via Mercedes]

So the new MamaML has a deal where you can talk to it and tell it what 
to do.  You push a button on the steering wheel then you tell it to 
navigate to some address or place you have saved, or change the radio or 
music on your pod or call someone or do various other things.  She has 
tried it but apparently they don't understand each other too well yet.  
She finds the soul in the machine to be pleasant enough, however, when 
it tells her what to do, unlike her views toward me while doing the 
same.  It has also assimilated her phone into it so it can call people 
or send texts or do other things phone-wise, and apparently can also 
suck in 10GB or 80GB of music to its memory banks.


I find this whole thing somewhat disturbing yet intriguing.

It has a rotating pushbutton mouse joystick sort of thing too to whiz 
around the screen if you don't want to talk to it.  The instruction book 
is about 400 pages long.


--R



On 3/4/15 7:41 PM, wiltonw--- via Mercedes wrote:

I used Dragon Speaking with good results 6 or 8 years ago.  Problem for last 
couple months is tremor of right hand so bad my handwriting is unreadable, even 
by me.

Wilton

 OK Don via Mercedes  wrote:

It is, if you take the time to learn it and to train it to your voice.

However, writing with your fingers and dictating text are not usually the
same thing. You don't talk like you write. It takes getting used to
planning what your are about to say with your mouth the way you do when you
write/type.

On Wed, Mar 4, 2015 at 5:23 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:


DragonSpeak is supposed to be really good.  I don't have any direct
experience with it, however.

Dan








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--R



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Re: [MBZ] This looks like it might be a pretty nice 140

[Jon Agne via Mercedes]

What model of Cessna?

> On Mar 4, 2015, at 11:37 PM, OK Don via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Still a whippersnapper! My Cessna is in it's 58th year and still flying -
> TWICE as old!
> 
> On Wed, Mar 4, 2015 at 10:20 PM, WILTON via Mercedes 
> wrote:
> 
>> A whippersnapper!  Mine's in it's 29th year.  141 kmi
>> 
>> Wilton
>> 
>> That car has come of age - it's 21!  Amazing!!
>>> 
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Mercedes Digest, Vol 112, Issue 30

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

I got my introduction into how badly we have treated native Americans and their 
condition in Tuba City, AZ.

I had heard the requisite stories about alcoholism and unemployment on 
reservations, but working with the Hopi Nation for a month, effectively 
embedded with them, really opened my eyes to their plight and that of all 
Native Americans.

I will say that they were very gracious and welcoming, and went to great 
lengths to share their culture with me. It made me feel pretty humble, for sure.

Dan

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> On Mar 4, 2015, at 11:43 PM, G Mann  wrote:
> 
> On the subject of drug use or alcohol use.. as wise man once told me
>  "Self abuse is still the most popular form of self entertainment." 
> 
> It seems to ring true with every addiction, regardless of the material of 
> choice.. 
> 
> A great part of the land mass of Arizona is Indian Reservation ... a very 
> drunk Hopi once told me... as I tried to assist him out of the middle of a 
> busy street where he had decided to "take a nap", that "With the first drink, 
> the spirit comes out of the bottle into the man.. every drink after that the 
> spirit comes out of the man into the bottle." ... 
> 
> I'm pretty sure this mans bottle was full of spirit... Yet another ruined 
> life.. 
> 
> I think we need to offer a surrender in the "war on drugs" ... we lost.
> 
> 
> 
>> On Wed, Mar 4, 2015 at 8:41 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> I would suggest that there are people suffering from advanced alcoholism who 
>> can fare no better, nor are functional in any sense of the word.  It's a 
>> "tomato - tomatoe" thing.
>> 
>> In either case the severity of the affliction is clearly evident.  As addled 
>> as their brains might be, I would posit that they're in far better health 
>> than someone suffering from advanced alcoholism...
>> 
>> However, I am neither doctor nor a medical researcher, and this boils down 
>> to a matter of semantics.  Neither conditions are acceptable from a 
>> standpoint of quality of life.  Given the choice I would rather my brain be 
>> addled than my liver trashed, but that's merely a matter of personal 
>> preference.  Having seen a family member die of advanced liver disease 
>> brought on by alcoholism, I found it a horrible, lingering, painful way to 
>> die that I wouldn't wish on anyone.  I'm not sure anyone has died from 
>> marijuana abuse/ingestion, and if they have, it was probably due to 
>> excessive consumption of food (munchies.)
>> 
>> Dan
>> 
>> 
>> > On Mar 4, 2015, at 9:52 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes 
>> >  wrote:
>> >
>> > They are beyond "out of touch."  They are mindless zombies who can't put 
>> > together a simple sentence in words.
>> >
>> > Nothing I said dismisses the effects of terminal alcoholism, but that 
>> > subject was not addressed.  The statement was made that potheads are way 
>> > better than alkies, and I take issue with that statement.  Some alcoholics 
>> > can function at some level, and are often entertaining, and generally can 
>> > string together words to make a sentence.  The whacked out pothead zombies 
>> > can do none of those things.  It is not "better"
>> >
>> >
>> >> I've never been to Hawaii, but I have seen the results of a lifetime of 
>> >> pot smoking with a couple of people.  I would concur that they were 
>> >> pretty much out of touch, but they looked a lot better than the 
>> >> alcoholics I've seen dying of cirrhosis of the liver...
>> >>
>> >> I very much agree with the personal responsibility aspect, too.
>> >>
>> >> Dan
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>> On Mar 4, 2015, at 9:05 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes 
>> >>>  wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> THen you have obviously never seen the whacked out old potheads 
>> >>> wandering around Puna and Kau in Hawaii, among other places. "known 
>> >>> fact" you refer to is propaganda put out by norml.   Today's pot is far 
>> >>> more powefull and mind frying that your grampa's joint.
>> >>>
>> >>> However, outlawing drugs does not provide solutions, except for 
>> >>> unemployed shysters.
>> >>>
>> >>> I say legalize it,  but take away the ability for the users to send 
>> >>> others the bill for their irresponsibility.  (personal responsibility)
>> >>>
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