It depends on the level of the repair, but a test flight after maintenance
work is most always a good idea. I do them . . .
On Wed, Mar 25, 2015 at 11:04 PM, archer75--- via Mercedes <
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> Would any pilot on this list refuse to fly for that reason?
>
> http://www.pilot
Which way do the doors open to the cockpit? If towards the cabin, and
pressure was lost in the cockpit, but not in the cabin, it would be next to
impossible to open that door
On Wed, Mar 25, 2015 at 9:44 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
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>
> “You can hear he
Here is a Germanwings website about pilot qualifications, hiring, etc.
One thing I noticed was that a non-German could get a pilot job with the
airline if he had an unlimited work permit.
Someone on another list wondered if Germanwings had hired a number of
middle-eastern pilots as first officers
" Fly on Boeing aircraft. At least they allow the pilot to override the
"computer""
I strongly agree with this sentiment but reconstruction of the 2009 Air
France Airbus crash does not inspire great confidence in the basic
airmanship of the "pilots." Maybe when aircraft are designed to minimize
Doesn't the crew have keys for the cockpit door? It would only make
sense that they would.
Dan
I vote that pilots should be able to carry a 1911. The other guy
could have opened the door with a 1911 crowbar
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I useta tell people who asked I was as old as Jack BennyUntil it
got to where every time I had to explain who jack benny was and how
he was always 39.
Same here. Dang kids.
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For security reasons maybe they don't!
On Wed, Mar 25, 2015 at 11:06 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> Doesn't the crew have keys for the cockpit door? It would only make sense
> that they would.
>
> Dan
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> > On Mar 25, 2015, at 11:03 PM, G Mann
Doesn't the crew have keys for the cockpit door? It would only make sense that
they would.
Dan
Sent from my iPad
> On Mar 25, 2015, at 11:03 PM, G Mann via Mercedes
> wrote:
>
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You have the BEST sense of humor. ROFLMAO!
On Wed, Mar 25, 2015 at 10:39 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> When did anyone in con gress ever read the constitution, with the possible
> exceptions of Cruz, S King and Ernst?
>
>
> The Citizenship requirements set fort
I'm sure if there were islamics on board, they were all on their way to a
Boy Scout knot tying contest for qualification of their Eagle Scout badge.
On Wed, Mar 25, 2015 at 7:54 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> No names of the crew released. Could be a clue there.
Doesn't the door lock automatically?
On Wed, Mar 25, 2015 at 10:54 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> No names of the crew released. Could be a clue there.
>
> --R (sent from my miniPad)
>
> On Mar 25, 2015, at 10:44 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okie
No names of the crew released. Could be a clue there.
--R (sent from my miniPad)
On Mar 25, 2015, at 10:44 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
wrote:
Be very afraid.
(Reuters) - One of the pilots on the German Airbus plane that crashed in
the French Alps, killing everyone onboard, left the co
When did anyone in con gress ever read the constitution, with the
possible exceptions of Cruz, S King and Ernst?
The Citizenship requirements set forth in Constitution for holding the
office of President are unique to that office.
It appears Mr. Cruz, although a legal citizen, does not meet t
Be very afraid.
(Reuters) - One of the pilots on the German Airbus plane that crashed in
the French Alps, killing everyone onboard, left the cockpit and was unable
to return before the plane went down, the New York Times reported on
Wednesday, citing evidence from a cockpit voice recorder.
“The g
The Citizenship requirements set forth in Constitution for holding the
office of President are unique to that office.
_Running_ for the office. I think a non-naive-American could end
up _holding_ the office, if he came to it by succession. Same way
Bill Clinton could end up holding the office
My first flight ever was on a Boeing 720. Supposedly.
Charter flight direct from Spokane to San Diego.
All-expenses-paid trip to the Holiday Bowl!
-- Jim
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ISIS No other good explanation.
The raghead terrorists? Or do you posit Archer & Co.
were in charge of security? Either could do it! :-)
-- Jim
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The Citizenship requirements set forth in Constitution for holding the
office of President are unique to that office.
It appears Mr. Cruz, although a legal citizen, does not meet those unique
requirements.
But, in the words of another possible candidate, "What difference does it
make".
On Wed, M
Max Dillon wrote:
> Open the cockpit door Hal!
> Maybe the pilot inside had a stroke, heart attack, black out from undiagnosed
> diabetic condition, poisoned by the pilot who left in order to draw suspicion
> away...
There were 2 Iranians, 1 Moroccan, and several Turks in board, so Islam was
w
He renounced his Canuck citizenship a while back.
Dan
> On Mar 25, 2015, at 8:38 PM, clay via Mercedes wrote:
>
> Hold on! Cruz is a Canadian.
>
> His mama was from below the 49th, but his dad was some wetback from pirates
> of the Caribbean.
>
>
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Open the cockpit door Hal!
Maybe the pilot inside had a stroke, heart attack, black out from undiagnosed
diabetic condition, poisoned by the pilot who left in order to draw suspicion
away...
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Charleston SC
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'95 E300
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They had to pull the boys out of the black hole because the firm was not
allowed to use the tech from there on the 777 (same sort of composites theory
in 757). The boys were no longer doing skunk works, so what they knew could
be applied to civilian aviation instead of getting to adapt DOD tec
On the 747, you forgot the Pan Am flight the libyans blew up over scotland.
That one killed Pan Am
clay
On Mar 25, 2015, at 2:01 PM, archer75--- via Mercedes wrote:
> Safest airliners:
>
> 1. Airbus 340
> The A340 has approximately the same number of flying hours as the 777 and
> remains a
ISIS
No other good explanation.
clay
On Mar 24, 2015, at 8:56 PM, G Mann via Mercedes wrote:
> As a pilot, and for many years flying for business, I personally have a
> rule that I will not fly on Airbus aircraft.
>
> The design is "fly by wire" and the response from pilot input is convolute
It was used to kill a dame who did abortions. They should have used it for
something a bit more interesting
clay
On Mar 24, 2015, at 8:29 PM, G Mann via Mercedes wrote:
> Funny you should mention that.
>
> Some years ago, I built a full size working Guillotine. Lately, I've been
> ask if I co
Hold on! Cruz is a Canadian.
His mama was from below the 49th, but his dad was some wetback from pirates of
the Caribbean.
On Mar 24, 2015, at 6:45 PM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes wrote:
>> provide the Native American (pre-European Invader Indigenous Person) content.
>
> Only native Americans
Now it appears one pilot was locked out of the flight deck. Sounds suspicious
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Technically, being retired, I have my feet up, relaxing.. so I still don't
have "feet on ground" ;))
On Wed, Mar 25, 2015 at 2:21 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> Impressive. You now have your feet on the ground?
>
> --R
>
>
> On 3/25/15 2:51 PM, G Mann via Mercedes
Re 757
A friend of mine was on the 757 design team. His job was weight
reduction in the tail section. He bought a house in mulkilteo to be
near the plant. After that, they sent him downtown to work in the
black hole with top secret military stuff. Figgers... He put a lot
of miles on hi
A buddy of mine who now flies for FedEx but used to fly for Northwest was a 757
pilot. He said they were the "hot rod" of the NW fleet at the time and a joy
to fly.
Dan
> On Mar 25, 2015, at 5:01 PM, archer75--- via Mercedes
> wrote:
>
> Safest airliners:
>
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Impressive. You now have your feet on the ground?
--R
On 3/25/15 2:51 PM, G Mann via Mercedes wrote:
Hahahaha.. at last.. we agree on something !
Just to clear the air [so to speak] I've been a pilot for 55 yrs, or 20,075
days, and I've averaged one flight hr. per day for that period, [cumul
I've known or met only one Ludwig - a Mercedes tech/mechanic from
der faterland mit grun karte.
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- Original Message - From: "Curly McLain via Mercedes"
To: "Curt Raymond" ; "Mercedes Discussion
List"
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2015 4:37 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Another Airbus
There was mad Ludwig who had Neuschwanstein built, before they drowned him,
that is.
Fred Moir.Lynn MA.Diesel preferred.
> Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2015 15:37:21 -0500
> To: curtlud...@yahoo.com; mercedes@okiebenz.com
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Another Airbus bores in
> From: mercedes@okiebenz.com
>
> >A
Safest airliners:
1. Airbus 340
The A340 has approximately the same number of flying hours as the 777 and
remains accident-free, making it number one is safety.
Number in service: 355
2. Boeing 777
At one accident per eighteen-million hours of flying, the Triple-Seven is
number two in safety. A
I've known or met only one Ludwig - a Mercedes tech/mechanic from der
faterland mit grun karte.
Wilton
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From: "Curly McLain via Mercedes"
To: "Curt Raymond" ; "Mercedes Discussion List"
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2015 4:37 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Another Airbus
And for the record Ludwig is not part of my name...
-Curt
Your favorite brand of Drums?
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There are a number of different models of 737 so obviously more than 800
om total.
Look at the number of flights for all of the 737s - only 73 incidents
in more than 175million flights is not too bad.
RB
On 25/03/2015 2:07 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:
The first link says there are
On 25/03/2015 2:18 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:
From personal experience, I have NEVER flown on ANY Airbus that EVER
crashed while I was aboard. They are totally safe in my book.
We shall hope your good luck continues.
RB
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On 25/03/2015 2:55 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:
Well, that only reinforces my point.
On Wed, Mar 25, 2015 at 3:24 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
I also have never been in a crashed Airbus plane although
Well, that only reinforces my point.
On Wed, Mar 25, 2015 at 3:24 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> I also have never been in a crashed Airbus plane although I'll admit I've
> only been in A319s and A320s.
> -Curt
>
> From: Andrew Strasfogel
> To: Curt Raymon
I also have never been in a crashed Airbus plane although I'll admit I've only
been in A319s and A320s.
-Curt
From: Andrew Strasfogel
To: Curt Raymond ; Mercedes Discussion List
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2015 3:18 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] flying
From personal experience, I have NEV
>From personal experience, I have NEVER flown on ANY Airbus that EVER
crashed while I was aboard. They are totally safe in my book.
On Wed, Mar 25, 2015 at 3:07 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> The first link says there are 800 737s made since 1967 and then says th
And for the record Ludwig is not part of my name...
-Curt
From: Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
To: Curly McLain <126die...@gmail.com>; Mercedes Discussion List
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2015 2:32 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Another Airbus bores in
I thought G Mann = Greg Mann. I ha
The first link says there are 800 737s made since 1967 and then says there were
thousands made...
The second link says the failure rate of the A320/319 is .10 while the rate of
737 (all models) is .15 or 50% worse...
I've flown in a lot of both and I generally consider the A320 to have a
slightl
Grant
From: Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
To: Curly McLain <126die...@gmail.com>; Mercedes Discussion List
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2015 2:32 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Another Airbus bores in
I thought G Mann = Greg Mann. I have been living in a fantasy world. WTF!?
On Wed,
Thanks for posting that list. I had not looked at that reporting for quite
some time.
Worthy of notice is the column which reports number of flight hrs for the
particular models vs the number of incidents...
Airbus takes top billing in each instance... Boeing has millions of flight
hrs vs inciden
Hahahaha.. at last.. we agree on something !
Just to clear the air [so to speak] I've been a pilot for 55 yrs, or 20,075
days, and I've averaged one flight hr. per day for that period, [cumulative
hrs flown divided by days as a rated pilot] which accounts for quite a bit
of time without having my
http://www.b737.org.uk/accident_reports.htm
http://www.airsafe.com/events/models/rate_mod.htm
I still like the Boeing stats after looking at this.
Also happy that I don't fly to or around 3rd world places.
RB
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I thought G Mann = Greg Mann. I have been living in a fantasy world. WTF!?
On Wed, Mar 25, 2015 at 2:21 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> WHAT? No cat poop jam?
>
>
> So are you really a commercial pilot, Greg? If so please get me a free
>> pass on your airline?
I called in a favor. Don't mention it.
On Wed, Mar 25, 2015 at 2:27 PM, Rick Hawkins Java via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> i seem to be back on the list
>
> thanks
>
> xx rick
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i seem to be back on the list
thanks
xx rick
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WHAT? No cat poop jam?
So are you really a commercial pilot, Greg? If so please get me a free
pass on your airline? In return, I will barter for some of my CHOICE and
AWESOME used Mercedes 123 and 111 parts. Win-win!
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I'll look into it, Rick. The admin interface got fixed last night, so maybe
they blow something when they fixed the admin part
That's Okiemail for you.
Dan
Sent from my iPad
> On Mar 25, 2015, at 1:51 PM, Rick Hawkins Java via Mercedes
> wrote:
>
> i haven't received any list mails (in
i haven't received any list mails (in digest) for 24 hours
what's up with that?
i get all my other emails
thanks,
xx rick
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"Fracas" reminds me: The judge says to the defendant, "So, you admit you
shot her in the fracas?"
Defendant replies, "Nawsuh, I shot 'er 'bout two inches above da fracas."
Wilton
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So are you really a commercial pilot, Greg? If so please get me a free
pass on your airline? In return, I will barter for some of my CHOICE and
AWESOME used Mercedes 123 and 111 parts. Win-win!
On Wed, Mar 25, 2015 at 1:24 PM, G Mann via Mercedes
wrote:
> Or.. it's a Windows based system and
I hear that Hillary had him fired. Pass it on to the folks at Fox News for
authentication.
On Wed, Mar 25, 2015 at 1:26 PM, G Mann wrote:
> So... "he will never work in this town again" kind of "fracas"
>
> So it goes in the world of entertainment. Next...
>
> On Wed, Mar 25, 2015 at 8:37 A
So... "he will never work in this town again" kind of "fracas"
So it goes in the world of entertainment. Next...
On Wed, Mar 25, 2015 at 8:37 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> "Top Gear" host Jeremy Clarkson's contract will not be renewed, the BBC
> said af
Or.. it's a Windows based system and it just blue screened in the blue
sky..
I think of it this way... A multi-million dollar airliner, full of people
and crew, who trust their lives to the function of tiny bites of data and
the on board computers reliable ability to process that data. It has to b
So the work on the front landing gear "pod bay door" was faulty, HAL9000
thought the door was opening at altitude, took evasive action to repel
boarders and flew into the mountain? Or maybe HAL9000 thought the opening
of the pod bay door was for a landing, and so went into landing mode?
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Kaleb wrote:
> Dude I already said hal9000. They were trying to open the pod bay doors.
>
Yes, I failed to give proper reference to Kaleb - sorry.
mao
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Dude I already said hal9000. They were trying to open the pod bay doors.
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> On Mar 25, 2015, at 11:46 AM, Mountain Man via Mercedes
> wrote:
>
> Dan wrote:
>> Dan who likes the term "auger in" best
>
> The line I heard today indicated that "auger in" might be a wrong term.
Andrew wrote:
> I have never piloted a plane and am really ignorant about aviation, but
> here goes anyway:
Another observation I found interesting in yesterday's early reports
is that the airplane had just finished its inspection the day prior.
Perhaps a screw was left without proper torque wrenc
You can survive quite well over 10k ft, 20k is pushing it though some
have conquered Everest 28k ft with no supplemental oxygen. I have
trekked at 14k+ ft and spent a couple days at 12k+, it is a challenge
but if you are fairly fit you can do it OK, some better than others (the
Quechua basical
Dan wrote:
> Dan who likes the term "auger in" best
The line I heard today indicated that "auger in" might be a wrong term.
Use another word indicating shatter. The investigators are taking
3'X3' squares to recover pieces? Plastic jets - just wonderful, eh?
Controlled by HAL9000.
mao
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"Top Gear" host Jeremy Clarkson's contract will not be renewed, the BBC
said after an internal investigation into what it earlier called a "fracas"
with a producer.
"Top Gear" was named as the world's most widely watched factual program in
the Guinness World Records 2013 Edition book, with an esti
When looking at flights online to book it tells you what aircraft it is
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On Mar 25, 2015, at 9:06 AM, Curly McLain via Mercedes
wrote:
>> As a pilot, and for many years flying for business, I personally have a
>> rule that I will not fly on Airbus aircraft.
>>
>> The design
At altitudes over 10,000 feet, the air pressure is too low for your lungs
to absorb the oxygen out of it, so you can suffocate (three minutes or
less). If you have the presence of mind, you can "grunt" breath, which is
too use your diaphragm to try to force the air out of your lungs but hold
your
The whole flight profile is likely programmed into the autopilot and
engaged at some point after takeoff (though I think these planes can
take off and land themselves once told to do so by the "pilots"), so
when it reaches cruise altitude it then levels out, engines are trimmed,
whatever to mai
Dan who likes the term "auger in" best
I like it too, but I think it wouldn't apply here,
since the plane wasn't spiraling.
-- Jim
It applies to prop driven planes, especially single engine ones that
hit nose first.
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Dan who likes the term "auger in" best
I like it too, but I think it wouldn't apply here,
since the plane wasn't spiraling.
-- Jim
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I have never piloted a plane and am really ignorant about aviation, but
here goes anyway:
What puzzles me is that this all transpired just as they reached cruising
altitude. Coincidence??
I'd like to know what, if anything, do the pilots would do (manually) when
they reach cruising altidue. If t
Report speculates windshield cracked, which would tend to ruin one's day
at 30k ft and 400some kts.
--R
On 3/25/15 10:38 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
Probably by the carrier. Most are pretty equipment specific as far as the
aircraft they fly.
Dan who likes the term "auger in" best
S
Probably by the carrier. Most are pretty equipment specific as far as the
aircraft they fly.
Dan who likes the term "auger in" best
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On Mar 25, 2015, at 10:06 AM, Curly McLain via Mercedes
wrote:
>> As a pilot, and for many years flying for business, I personally have a
>> r
As a pilot, and for many years flying for business, I personally have a
rule that I will not fly on Airbus aircraft.
The design is "fly by wire" and the response from pilot input is convoluted
by the pilot [s] having to "fly the computer first" to have positive
control of the airframe.
As a pilo
it was the HAL9000 acting up again.
Sent from my iPhone
> On Mar 24, 2015, at 10:28 PM, archer75--- via Mercedes
> wrote:
>
> On Tue, 24 Mar 2015 18:41:54 -0400
> Rich Thomas via Mercedes wrote:
>
>> Fluging along at cruise, starts a steep descent and bores in, no
>> mayday. Most curious,
If we are lucky, we can fix it at the ballot box. If we are not lucky,
it
will come to the fox hole.
Soap box, ballot box, cartridge box. Isn't that the usual
progression?
-- Jim
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If the ship of state were an airliner, it would be off course and
entering
an uncontrolled decent.
If only our SoS _was_ uncontrolledly decent! :-)
-- Jim
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Anyone who votes for Hillary had better make sure they wouldn't object
to her running mate becoming president.
Now _there's_ an ironic reversal! :-)
-- Jim
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Fly on Boeing aircraft. At least they allow the pilot to override
the "computer"
I'd rather have a skilled human in change, rather than HAL.
(The usual disclaimers I don't work for Boeing, as far as I know, I
don't own any stock in either company.)
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