Re: [MBZ] My eyes!!!!

2015-05-22 Thread Jim Cathey via Mercedes
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Mit-Gott-Fur-Koenig-Und-Vaterland-Helmet-VTG- 
Antique-/40096149


We had one of those!  It was very small.

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] My eyes!!!!

2015-05-22 Thread Max Dillon via Mercedes
Now you've got it!  Add in some aviator goggles, white scarf.
-- 
Max Dillon
Charleston SC
'87 300TD
'95 E300

On May 22, 2015 12:15:18 AM EDT, clay via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com 
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http://www.ebay.com/itm/Mit-Gott-Fur-Koenig-Und-Vaterland-Helmet-VTG-Antique-/40096149

Something for the team captain to wear

clay



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Re: [MBZ] My eyes!!!!

2015-05-22 Thread M. Mitchell Marmel via Mercedes
On Fri, May 22, 2015 at 9:57 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes 
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

 I think it is Herbie rides again  where the bad guy in something like a
 59 mercuric plays chicken with Herbie.  You should dress like that guy the
 red knight.  Red cape and all.


Once upon a time, I was mulling over getting a junker 116 300SD, painting
it red with black Iron Crosses, rigging a regular crash helmet with a point
on it and entering a demolition derby as the Red Baron...

The piece de resistance, of course, would be rigging an exhaust pipe
through the hood with a semi-style exhaust stack, complete with little
flipper lid on it.

-MMM-
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Re: [MBZ] My eyes!!!!

2015-05-22 Thread M. Mitchell Marmel via Mercedes
On Fri, May 22, 2015 at 2:15 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes 
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

 today is Richie Wagner's birthday!


Now, now. Be fair. Der Ring Des Nibelungens is only about 16 hours long and
has a Joke. Admittedly, it's not a great Joke. Not one of the great belly
laughs of German romantic grand opera, but a Joke nonetheless. It occurs in
opera number 3 (about an hour into it). It consists of a big beefy chap
called Siegfried frightening the life out of Mime, a pitiful misshapen old
dwarf, by setting a wild bear onto him.  That Wagner, what a lad. Life and
soul of the party. (Yes, yes, we all know what party that was.)

 Alan Bird
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Re: [MBZ] My eyes!!!!

2015-05-22 Thread Curly McLain via Mercedes
I think it is Herbie rides again  where the bad guy in something 
like a 59 mercuric plays chicken with Herbie.  You should dress like 
that guy the red knight.  Red cape and all.


A few people might even get the connection

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JC6yPwHMJoU



I have a big head, but this would sit on my pointy head ok

clay



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[MBZ] Sightings: related to: My eyes!!!!

2015-05-22 Thread Curly McLain via Mercedes
In the grocery stor lot this morning; a messerati with the license 
plate that says Cyserati  Reference to Cy 
http://stories.cals.iastate.edu/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/ISU1828.jpg


This evening, there was a motorcycle with side car with the license 
plate cydecar, again a reference to Cy.  It was not a BMW, but I 
could not tell what the cycle was.


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Re: [MBZ] Several Barn Finds in NJ

2015-05-22 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
I rather like the Jeep pickup, the duct tape interior is great.

I had been kind of looking for an old pickup to have as a farm truck but I 
think I may have talked Dad into a subcompact diesel tractor...



Curt

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Date:Thu, May 21, 2015 at 9:39 PM
Subject:Re: [MBZ] Several Barn Finds in NJ

No fair showing us a green Benz with a perfect white steering wheel and a SOLD 
sign on it.

A quick look at the VIN on the Lancia will tell you if it's a 1981 or 1982 or 
earlier. Isn't there an emissions label under the hood?

I don't think that MG-TD is a 1958.

Mitch.





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Re: [MBZ] My eyes!!!!

2015-05-22 Thread clay via Mercedes
I have a big head, but this would sit on my pointy head ok

clay

On May 22, 2015, at 5:54 AM, Craig via Mercedes wrote:

 On Thu, 21 May 2015 21:15:18 -0700 clay via Mercedes
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
 http://www.ebay.com/itm/Mit-Gott-Fur-Koenig-Und-Vaterland-Helmet-VTG-Antique-/40096149
 
 Something for the team captain to wear
 
 Will a small fit?
 
 
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Re: [MBZ] Several Barn Finds in NJ

2015-05-22 Thread Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes
I managed to get the 1966 230 started today with an external fuel tank. It
was a little reluctant at first, but once the fuel was flowing through the
carbs it idled pretty well.  It pulled out under its own power and was
lined up with the rest of the cars.  It didn't smoke or knock, generally
gave a good impression.  Its a good car... rusty on the floors, but a lot
of positive points that make it worth saving.  Someone who wants to do some
metal work would have a nice project.

The 220Sb turns by hand and with the starter, but I couldn't get any fuel
to flow through the carbs.  I'm sure they're just gummed up.  It did run on
ether, however, a few seconds at a time.  The clutch hydraulics were gone,
so getting it running didn't really help with moving it around tight
corners anyway.  The Becker tube radio worked too, after it warmed up of
course.

The 1966 250S wasn't going to start... someone had removed the plugs and I
couldn't get it turned by hand, so I didn't try any further.

Jaime


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mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

 Leather in a 220S is pretty rare.  Most had MBTex in red or tan.  The one
 I drove most was MB Blue with a blue interior.  It was a sharp looking
 car.  I talked to one lady who bought a 220Sb new.  She was a Professor of
 art at ISU.   She said she bought it because at the time the merkun cars
 were loaded with superfluous chrome and fins, and the MB was more subdued.
 She kept the car pretty long.  10-12 years at least, maybe more.

 To me both the 110 and the 111 are worth saving.

 Both have disc front brakes.  63 is the first year for front disc brakes
 on all MBs.  In 1968, when the US goobermnt  made US companies put front
 disc brakes on cars, MB went to 4 wheel disk on all cars. Some cars like
 the SLs had disc brakes earlier.  These dates are for 110 and 111.  I am
 not sure about 112.  It may have had disc brakes earlier, but 1963 and 1968
 are the dates for ALL cars in the fleet to have disc brakes.





  Just the pictures are mixed up... the main photos are swapped.  The other
 photos for the cars are correct.  No swapping of parts.

 The 230 actually looks great, except for the terrible rust and repair
 underneath.  The 220S is a little rougher overall, but more solid.  Its
 certainly worth saving.

 We should be able to get better photos today.

 Jaime


 On Thu, May 21, 2015 at 10:40 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

   What is the chassis number on the 230?  Picture shows the taillights
 of
  a 111, but it looks like the front end may be single headlights.  No
 good
  pictures of the outside.  Doors have pockets like an S (111) but by
 1966,
  even the 110s had door pockets.  I can't see enough of the dash or
  windshield surround to determine it it has wood or plastic.

  It shows an 111 bumper on the rear, and a 110 bumper on the front.

  110 hit on the rear, and a 111 rear end grafted on?  Mixup with the
  pictures?

   Hi Guys,

  I've been helping a guy up here in NJ who was hired to liquidate an
 estate
  that includes several Mercedes.  A W110, W111, and a bunch of W126s.
 The
  best of the bunch is a 85 300SD with 121,000 miles.  They've all been
  sitting for several years and will need some significant cleaning and
  maintenance.  Some are better as parts cars.

  Details are here:
  http://powerportalproducts.com/products/barn-finds-2/

  Its best to use the contacts on the site if you're interested in any
 cars,
  but I can answer questions about them since I've laid hands and eyes on
  them, and even got a few started.

  Jaime


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Re: [MBZ] Several Barn Finds in NJ

2015-05-22 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
So what's the big deal about a barn find anyway.  It's only original once
makes sense only if the car isn't a basket case, as most of them are.  What
use is a classic car if you can't drive/enjoy it?

On Fri, May 22, 2015 at 8:10 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

 I rather like the Jeep pickup, the duct tape interior is great.

 I had been kind of looking for an old pickup to have as a farm truck but I
 think I may have talked Dad into a subcompact diesel tractor...



 Curt

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 From:Mitch Haley via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com
 Date:Thu, May 21, 2015 at 9:39 PM
 Subject:Re: [MBZ] Several Barn Finds in NJ

 No fair showing us a green Benz with a perfect white steering wheel and a
 SOLD
 sign on it.

 A quick look at the VIN on the Lancia will tell you if it's a 1981 or 1982
 or
 earlier. Isn't there an emissions label under the hood?

 I don't think that MG-TD is a 1958.

 Mitch.





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Re: [MBZ] More S500 Weirdness

2015-05-22 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes

OK Don via Mercedes wrote:

LD ratio is not the same as glide ratio. I think the Cessna's GR is more
like 1:4 to 1:5. No, it gets worse with more weight. I might experiment
some day and see haw far I can glide from 10,000 ft. at idle. It changes
with prop pitch as well - when the prop is in high RPM (flat pitch) it's
like a speed brake.


I wonder if it goes further with the engine stopped than idling?
Looks like you want to try it at 68 KIAS.

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Re: [MBZ] Several Barn Finds in NJ

2015-05-22 Thread Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes
Just the pictures are mixed up... the main photos are swapped.  The other
photos for the cars are correct.  No swapping of parts.

The 230 actually looks great, except for the terrible rust and repair
underneath.  The 220S is a little rougher overall, but more solid.  Its
certainly worth saving.

We should be able to get better photos today.

Jaime


On Thu, May 21, 2015 at 10:40 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes 
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

 What is the chassis number on the 230?  Picture shows the taillights of
 a 111, but it looks like the front end may be single headlights.  No good
 pictures of the outside.  Doors have pockets like an S (111) but by 1966,
 even the 110s had door pockets.  I can't see enough of the dash or
 windshield surround to determine it it has wood or plastic.

 It shows an 111 bumper on the rear, and a 110 bumper on the front.

 110 hit on the rear, and a 111 rear end grafted on?  Mixup with the
 pictures?

  Hi Guys,
 I've been helping a guy up here in NJ who was hired to liquidate an estate
 that includes several Mercedes.  A W110, W111, and a bunch of W126s.  The
 best of the bunch is a 85 300SD with 121,000 miles.  They've all been
 sitting for several years and will need some significant cleaning and
 maintenance.  Some are better as parts cars.

 Details are here:
 http://powerportalproducts.com/products/barn-finds-2/

 Its best to use the contacts on the site if you're interested in any cars,
 but I can answer questions about them since I've laid hands and eyes on
 them, and even got a few started.

 Jaime


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Re: [MBZ] My eyes!!!!

2015-05-22 Thread Craig via Mercedes
On Thu, 21 May 2015 21:15:18 -0700 clay via Mercedes
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

 http://www.ebay.com/itm/Mit-Gott-Fur-Koenig-Und-Vaterland-Helmet-VTG-Antique-/40096149
 
 Something for the team captain to wear

Will a small fit?


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Several Barn Finds in NJ

2015-05-22 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
My 1962 300SE had discs all the way around, I believe.

Dan

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 On May 22, 2015, at 8:44 AM, Curly McLain via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
 Leather in a 220S is pretty rare.  Most had MBTex in red or tan.  The one I 
 drove most was MB Blue with a blue interior.  It was a sharp looking car.  I 
 talked to one lady who bought a 220Sb new.  She was a Professor of art at 
 ISU.   She said she bought it because at the time the merkun cars were loaded 
 with superfluous chrome and fins, and the MB was more subdued.  She kept the 
 car pretty long.  10-12 years at least, maybe more.
 
 To me both the 110 and the 111 are worth saving.
 
 Both have disc front brakes.  63 is the first year for front disc brakes on 
 all MBs.  In 1968, when the US goobermnt  made US companies put front disc 
 brakes on cars, MB went to 4 wheel disk on all cars. Some cars like the SLs 
 had disc brakes earlier.  These dates are for 110 and 111.  I am not sure 
 about 112.  It may have had disc brakes earlier, but 1963 and 1968 are the 
 dates for ALL cars in the fleet to have disc brakes.
 
 
 
 
 Just the pictures are mixed up... the main photos are swapped.  The other
 photos for the cars are correct.  No swapping of parts.
 
 The 230 actually looks great, except for the terrible rust and repair
 underneath.  The 220S is a little rougher overall, but more solid.  Its
 certainly worth saving.
 
 We should be able to get better photos today.
 
 Jaime
 
 
 On Thu, May 21, 2015 at 10:40 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
 What is the chassis number on the 230?  Picture shows the taillights of
 a 111, but it looks like the front end may be single headlights.  No good
 pictures of the outside.  Doors have pockets like an S (111) but by 1966,
 even the 110s had door pockets.  I can't see enough of the dash or
 windshield surround to determine it it has wood or plastic.
 
 It shows an 111 bumper on the rear, and a 110 bumper on the front.
 
 110 hit on the rear, and a 111 rear end grafted on?  Mixup with the
 pictures?
 
  Hi Guys,
 I've been helping a guy up here in NJ who was hired to liquidate an estate
 that includes several Mercedes.  A W110, W111, and a bunch of W126s.  The
 best of the bunch is a 85 300SD with 121,000 miles.  They've all been
 sitting for several years and will need some significant cleaning and
 maintenance.  Some are better as parts cars.
 
 Details are here:
 http://powerportalproducts.com/products/barn-finds-2/
 
 Its best to use the contacts on the site if you're interested in any cars,
 but I can answer questions about them since I've laid hands and eyes on
 them, and even got a few started.
 
 Jaime
 
 
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Re: [MBZ] Several Barn Finds in NJ

2015-05-22 Thread Curly McLain via Mercedes
Leather in a 220S is pretty rare.  Most had MBTex in red or tan.  The 
one I drove most was MB Blue with a blue interior.  It was a sharp 
looking car.  I talked to one lady who bought a 220Sb new.  She was a 
Professor of art at ISU.   She said she bought it because at the time 
the merkun cars were loaded with superfluous chrome and fins, and the 
MB was more subdued.  She kept the car pretty long.  10-12 years at 
least, maybe more.


To me both the 110 and the 111 are worth saving.

Both have disc front brakes.  63 is the first year for front disc 
brakes on all MBs.  In 1968, when the US goobermnt  made US companies 
put front disc brakes on cars, MB went to 4 wheel disk on all cars. 
Some cars like the SLs had disc brakes earlier.  These dates are for 
110 and 111.  I am not sure about 112.  It may have had disc brakes 
earlier, but 1963 and 1968 are the dates for ALL cars in the fleet to 
have disc brakes.






Just the pictures are mixed up... the main photos are swapped.  The other
photos for the cars are correct.  No swapping of parts.

The 230 actually looks great, except for the terrible rust and repair
underneath.  The 220S is a little rougher overall, but more solid.  Its
certainly worth saving.

We should be able to get better photos today.

Jaime


On Thu, May 21, 2015 at 10:40 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes 
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:


 What is the chassis number on the 230?  Picture shows the taillights of
 a 111, but it looks like the front end may be single headlights.  No good
 pictures of the outside.  Doors have pockets like an S (111) but by 1966,
 even the 110s had door pockets.  I can't see enough of the dash or
 windshield surround to determine it it has wood or plastic.

 It shows an 111 bumper on the rear, and a 110 bumper on the front.

 110 hit on the rear, and a 111 rear end grafted on?  Mixup with the
 pictures?

  Hi Guys,

 I've been helping a guy up here in NJ who was hired to liquidate an estate
 that includes several Mercedes.  A W110, W111, and a bunch of W126s.  The
 best of the bunch is a 85 300SD with 121,000 miles.  They've all been
 sitting for several years and will need some significant cleaning and
 maintenance.  Some are better as parts cars.

 Details are here:
 http://powerportalproducts.com/products/barn-finds-2/

 Its best to use the contacts on the site if you're interested in any cars,
 but I can answer questions about them since I've laid hands and eyes on
 them, and even got a few started.

 Jaime


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[MBZ] Several Barn Finds in NJ

2015-05-22 Thread rogerhga--- via Mercedes
I wonder about the mileage on the 85 300SD.  It looks like a lot of blow by on 
the valve cover for only 121,400 miles.  I don't get that much blow by on my 80 
300SD with around 425,000 miles.  Plus, I got well over 200,000 miles on the 
starter on both my 617s. 
Just an observation. 
Best Wishes, 
Roger 
Roger Hale 
Dinnerware Classics, Inc. 
Monroe, Ga. 
770-267-0850 
www.dinnerwareclassics.com  (new) 
www.southernnightsantiques.com  (antique) 

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Re: [MBZ] Several Barn Finds in NJ

2015-05-22 Thread Curly McLain via Mercedes
I wonder about the mileage on the 85 300SD.  It looks like a lot of 
blow by on the valve cover for only 121,400 miles.  I don't get that 
much blow by on my 80 300SD with around 425,000 miles.  Plus, I got 
well over 200,000 miles on the starter on both my 617s.

Just an observation.
Best Wishes,
Roger
Roger Hale
Dinnerware Classics, Inc.
Monroe, Ga.
770-267-0850
www.dinnerwareclassics.com  (new)
www.southernnightsantiques.com  (antique)



Rode hard and put up wet?

If it never had oil changes it could be ready to expire at that mileage.

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Re: [MBZ] Several Barn Finds in NJ

2015-05-22 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Yeah, I'd be more interested in buying more barns than finds...

On Fri, May 22, 2015 at 11:47 AM, Curly McLain via Mercedes 
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

 I wonder about the mileage on the 85 300SD.  It looks like a lot of blow
 by on the valve cover for only 121,400 miles.  I don't get that much blow
 by on my 80 300SD with around 425,000 miles.  Plus, I got well over 200,000
 miles on the starter on both my 617s.
 Just an observation.
 Best Wishes,
 Roger
 Roger Hale
 Dinnerware Classics, Inc.
 Monroe, Ga.
 770-267-0850
 www.dinnerwareclassics.com  (new)
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 Rode hard and put up wet?

 If it never had oil changes it could be ready to expire at that mileage.


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Re: [MBZ] Several Barn Finds in NJ

2015-05-22 Thread Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes
Given how easily it started and well it ran, I haven't concerns about the
engine.  It didn't show any blow by at idle, so it's likely an issue of
messy breather hoses.

There were plenty of high mileage cars there... I don't suspect any reason
it's not an honest car.



On Friday, May 22, 2015, Curly McLain via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com
wrote:

 I wonder about the mileage on the 85 300SD.  It looks like a lot of blow
 by on the valve cover for only 121,400 miles.  I don't get that much blow
 by on my 80 300SD with around 425,000 miles.  Plus, I got well over 200,000
 miles on the starter on both my 617s.
 Just an observation.
 Best Wishes,
 Roger
 Roger Hale
 Dinnerware Classics, Inc.
 Monroe, Ga.
 770-267-0850
 www.dinnerwareclassics.com  (new)
 www.southernnightsantiques.com  (antique)



 Rode hard and put up wet?

 If it never had oil changes it could be ready to expire at that mileage.

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Re: [MBZ] My eyes!!!!

2015-05-22 Thread Curly McLain via Mercedes

today is Richie Wagner's birthday!



The iPod needs to be playing The Ride of the Valkyries, alternating with
a recording of an approaching flight of B-17s - it will intimidate the
others.

On Thu, May 21, 2015 at 11:00 PM, clay via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com
wrote:


 Decorate the fuel jugs as german beer brands.  I guess we could put the
 pit crew in shop coats.  Lederhosen nomex decor for the drivers.  Fill a
 ipod with oompah music and play it while on the track.

 clay





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Re: [MBZ] More S500 Weirdness

2015-05-22 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
LD ratio is not the same as glide ratio. I think the Cessna's GR is more
like 1:4 to 1:5. No, it gets worse with more weight. I might experiment
some day and see haw far I can glide from 10,000 ft. at idle. It changes
with prop pitch as well - when the prop is in high RPM (flat pitch) it's
like a speed brake.

On Thu, May 21, 2015 at 6:54 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes 
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:


 Does glide ratio of a Cessna improve with weight like ballasting a
 sailplane?

 I came up with my 10:1 guess because a friend has an ultralight that does
 8:1.
 Looks like I wasn't too far off, I found a web page that claims a 172 has
 LDmax of 9:1.




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Re: [MBZ] My eyes!!!!

2015-05-22 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
The iPod needs to be playing The Ride of the Valkyries, alternating with
a recording of an approaching flight of B-17s - it will intimidate the
others.

On Thu, May 21, 2015 at 11:00 PM, clay via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com
wrote:

 Decorate the fuel jugs as german beer brands.  I guess we could put the
 pit crew in shop coats.  Lederhosen nomex decor for the drivers.  Fill a
 ipod with oompah music and play it while on the track.

 clay




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*“Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness, and many of
our people need it sorely on these accounts.”* – Mark Twain

There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who
learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence
for themselves.

WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers*
2013 F150, 18 mpg
2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg
1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph!
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