Re: [MBZ] OT Welding dishwashers

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

Send grandson on an errand, then put GF to work?  Sounds like a pleasant time 
to me.  I'll bet she'd pick it right quick!  ;)
-- 
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'87 300TD
'95 E300

On April 4, 2016 11:08:43 PM EDT, WILTON via Mercedes  
wrote:
>Drive the SD.  I'll take ya to lunch coupla times at Mama Dip's.
>
>BTW, #1 grandson (UNC-CH grad) is here from Paris with his English GF
>or few 
>days.  He finished grad program a year ago, but is still there working
>for a 
>"think tank."  Mighty fine GF (mighty fine-looking, too) is rising
>senior in 
>college there.
>
>Wilton
>
>- Original Message - 
>From: "Rich Thomas via Mercedes" 
>To: 
>Cc: "Rich Thomas" 
>Sent: Monday, April 04, 2016 6:44 PM
>Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Welding dishwashers
>
>
>>I looked into learning some welding at our CC, you can't just take one
>or 
>>two classes, you have to sign up for the certificate program and it is
>like 
>>2 years of classes.  You learn a lot, but not what I want to do though
>I 
>>might decide at some point.  Being over 60 (just slightly!) I could do
>it 
>>free.  I guess I could just take the intro courses then walk away on
>the 
>>rest.
>>
>> My buddy wanted to take baking classes, he is really into baking, but
>he 
>> ended up doing the whole program too, including internships serving
>food 
>> and working in a chocolate shop (which he liked, a lot!, and so did
>I!). 
>> When he signed up they made him take an English proficiency test, he
>is 
>> retired pathologist but they said that didn't count they still had to
>know 
>> he could reed and right engrish... he finally gave up arguing with
>the 
>> instructors who could not read plain instructions on how to do stuff,
>and 
>> what the science of certain cooking reactions is, and generally
>trying to 
>> communicate with his classmates who had considerable deficiencies. 
>But he 
>> can make some wicked cakes, bread, ice cream, and chocolates.  I got
>him 
>> started brewing beer, he has become a fanatic about that too.
>>
>> I have become pretty good at sheetrocking and plaster repair but it
>is a 
>> bit of hike to come help you out.
>>
>> --R
>>
>> On 4/4/16 6:30 PM, WILTON via Mercedes wrote:
>>> Yep, they do have welding, construction, dental assistant,
>mechanics, 
>>> nursing and many other programs at the Com. College about 2 miles
>from 
>>> here. 'Still have all of my original teeth, 'cept wisdom 4, and in 
>>> excellent condition with appropriate fillings and crowns - just need
>an 
>>> able-bodied somebody with some common sense willing to listen, learn
>and 
>>> get some practical experience repairing dry wall and plaster. 
>Again, I 
>>> don't need a plasterer; 'don't even need a dry-waller.  I've
>repaired a 
>>> lot of plaster walls and ceilings, but I'm NOT a plasterer; I've 
>>> installed and repaired a significant amount of drywall, too, but I'm
>NOT 
>>> a dry-waller.
>>>
>>> Wilton
>>>
>>> - Original Message - From: "Randy Bennell via Mercedes" 
>>> 
>>> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
>>> Cc: "Randy Bennell" 
>>> Sent: Monday, April 04, 2016 5:19 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT dishwashers
>>>
>>>
 Why would you let a welder work on your teeth?

 RB

 On 04/04/2016 4:16 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:
> They may be able to fix teeth as well.
>
> On Mon, Apr 4, 2016 at 5:14 PM, WILTON via Mercedes 
> 
> wrote:
>
>> Yep, local Com. College, thanks for reminder.
>>
>> Wilt
>>
>> - Original Message - From: "Craig via Mercedes" <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com>
>> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
>> Cc: "Craig" 
>> Sent: Monday, April 04, 2016 4:46 PM
>> Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT dishwashers
>>
>>
>> On Mon, 4 Apr 2016 19:35:50 + Rick Knoble via Mercedes
>>>  wrote:
>>>
>>> Wilton writes:
> ‎BTW, I'm considering asking local >high school vocational
>teacher 
> if
>> he can recommend a 17-year-old >who will listen to and follow
>my
>>> instructions to get ‎what I need >done and, at same time,
>learn
 something useful for himself for the rest of his life.
 Unfortunately, most HS vocational programs are a thing of the
>past. 
 Our
 school still has them though. My son went for a vocational
>welding
 class, and after some years of "finding himself", is now
>working as 
 a
 welder. Imagine that.

>>>
>>> The community college in Los Alamos (aka UNM-Los Alamos) has
>welding
>>> classes that are well attended. Perhaps that's the level at
>which 
>>> Wilton
>>> should look.
>>>
>>>
>>> Craig
>>>
>>> 

Re: [MBZ] OT dishwashers

[WILTON via Mercedes]

Yep, we could do it.

Wilton

- Original Message - 
From: "Curt Raymond via Mercedes" 

To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Cc: "Curt Raymond" 
Sent: Monday, April 04, 2016 9:58 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT dishwashers



Wish I was closer, I'd take a crack at it under your tutelage...


Curt

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From:"WILTON via Mercedes" 
Date:Mon, Apr 4, 2016 at 6:30 PM
Subject:Re: [MBZ] OT dishwashers

Yep, they do have welding, construction, dental assistant, mechanics,
nursing and many other programs at the Com. College about 2 miles from 
here.

'Still have all of my original teeth, 'cept wisdom 4, and in excellent
condition with appropriate fillings and crowns - just need an able-bodied
somebody with some common sense willing to listen, learn and get some
practical experience repairing dry wall and plaster. Again, I don't need a
plasterer; 'don't even need a dry-waller. I've repaired a lot of plaster
walls and ceilings, but I'm NOT a plasterer; I've installed and repaired a
significant amount of drywall, too, but I'm NOT a dry-waller.

Wilton

- Original Message - 
From: "Randy Bennell via Mercedes" 

To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Cc: "Randy Bennell" 
Sent: Monday, April 04, 2016 5:19 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT dishwashers



Why would you let a welder work on your teeth?

RB

On 04/04/2016 4:16 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:

They may be able to fix teeth as well.

On Mon, Apr 4, 2016 at 5:14 PM, WILTON via Mercedes

wrote:


Yep, local Com. College, thanks for reminder.

Wilt

- Original Message - From: "Craig via Mercedes" <
mercedes@okiebenz.com>
To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Cc: "Craig" 
Sent: Monday, April 04, 2016 4:46 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT dishwashers


On Mon, 4 Apr 2016 19:35:50 + Rick Knoble via Mercedes

 wrote:

Wilton writes:
‎BTW, I'm considering asking local >high school vocational teacher 
if

he can recommend a 17-year-old >who will listen to and follow my

instructions to get ‎what I need >done and, at same time, learn

something useful for himself for the rest of his life.

Unfortunately, most HS vocational programs are a thing of the past.
Our
school still has them though. My son went for a vocational welding
class, and after some years of "finding himself", is now working as a
welder. Imagine that.



The community college in Los Alamos (aka UNM-Los Alamos) has welding
classes that are well attended. Perhaps that's the level at which
Wilton
should look.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] OT Welding dishwashers

[WILTON via Mercedes]

Drive the SD.  I'll take ya to lunch coupla times at Mama Dip's.

BTW, #1 grandson (UNC-CH grad) is here from Paris with his English GF or few 
days.  He finished grad program a year ago, but is still there working for a 
"think tank."  Mighty fine GF (mighty fine-looking, too) is rising senior in 
college there.


Wilton

- Original Message - 
From: "Rich Thomas via Mercedes" 

To: 
Cc: "Rich Thomas" 
Sent: Monday, April 04, 2016 6:44 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Welding dishwashers


I looked into learning some welding at our CC, you can't just take one or 
two classes, you have to sign up for the certificate program and it is like 
2 years of classes.  You learn a lot, but not what I want to do though I 
might decide at some point.  Being over 60 (just slightly!) I could do it 
free.  I guess I could just take the intro courses then walk away on the 
rest.


My buddy wanted to take baking classes, he is really into baking, but he 
ended up doing the whole program too, including internships serving food 
and working in a chocolate shop (which he liked, a lot!, and so did I!). 
When he signed up they made him take an English proficiency test, he is 
retired pathologist but they said that didn't count they still had to know 
he could reed and right engrish... he finally gave up arguing with the 
instructors who could not read plain instructions on how to do stuff, and 
what the science of certain cooking reactions is, and generally trying to 
communicate with his classmates who had considerable deficiencies.  But he 
can make some wicked cakes, bread, ice cream, and chocolates.  I got him 
started brewing beer, he has become a fanatic about that too.


I have become pretty good at sheetrocking and plaster repair but it is a 
bit of hike to come help you out.


--R

On 4/4/16 6:30 PM, WILTON via Mercedes wrote:
Yep, they do have welding, construction, dental assistant, mechanics, 
nursing and many other programs at the Com. College about 2 miles from 
here. 'Still have all of my original teeth, 'cept wisdom 4, and in 
excellent condition with appropriate fillings and crowns - just need an 
able-bodied somebody with some common sense willing to listen, learn and 
get some practical experience repairing dry wall and plaster.  Again, I 
don't need a plasterer; 'don't even need a dry-waller.  I've repaired a 
lot of plaster walls and ceilings, but I'm NOT a plasterer; I've 
installed and repaired a significant amount of drywall, too, but I'm NOT 
a dry-waller.


Wilton

- Original Message - From: "Randy Bennell via Mercedes" 


To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Cc: "Randy Bennell" 
Sent: Monday, April 04, 2016 5:19 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT dishwashers



Why would you let a welder work on your teeth?

RB

On 04/04/2016 4:16 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:

They may be able to fix teeth as well.

On Mon, Apr 4, 2016 at 5:14 PM, WILTON via Mercedes 


wrote:


Yep, local Com. College, thanks for reminder.

Wilt

- Original Message - From: "Craig via Mercedes" <
mercedes@okiebenz.com>
To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Cc: "Craig" 
Sent: Monday, April 04, 2016 4:46 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT dishwashers


On Mon, 4 Apr 2016 19:35:50 + Rick Knoble via Mercedes

 wrote:

Wilton writes:
‎BTW, I'm considering asking local >high school vocational teacher 
if

he can recommend a 17-year-old >who will listen to and follow my

instructions to get ‎what I need >done and, at same time, learn

something useful for himself for the rest of his life.
Unfortunately, most HS vocational programs are a thing of the past. 
Our

school still has them though. My son went for a vocational welding
class, and after some years of "finding himself", is now working as 
a

welder. Imagine that.



The community college in Los Alamos (aka UNM-Los Alamos) has welding
classes that are well attended. Perhaps that's the level at which 
Wilton

should look.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] OT dishwashers

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

Most of welding isn't welding, it's fitup. My welding is fair, my fitup is 
terrible.


The last couple days I've been soldering a lot of lantern bits. Maybe in the 
morning I'll tell the tale.


Curt

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From:"Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes" 
Date:Mon, Apr 4, 2016 at 10:05 PM
Subject:Re: [MBZ] OT dishwashers

I don't need to learn anything about welding - I know Dimitri.

On Mon, Apr 4, 2016 at 9:15 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Why would you let a welder work on your teeth?
>>
>> RB
>>
>
> That is government logic.  put a welder fixing teeth.  Use the dentist as
> a tanker or a gunner.  Andrew get a gov'ment check.
>
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Re: [MBZ] OT Netflix

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

It's all about compression. Uncompressed HD is around 150MB/s which is a 
challenge even on a 2Gb connection. So they compress the hell out of it to get 
it down your teeny pipe.

By comparison DVD is around 6Mb/s. Most cable TV is the same OTA (over the air) 
is usually around 25Mb/s.


Curt


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From:"Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes" 
Date:Mon, Apr 4, 2016 at 10:01 PM
Subject:[MBZ] OT Netflix

I have a 2.5mb connection.  In the past even when I had a 18mb 
connection at the other house I would struggle to get 480p streaming at 
times.  Here it would never get over 480.  The last week or 2, I have 
been watching the latest house of cards season and it pretty quickly 
jumps up to 1080p and usually stays there.  It sometimes drops to 780p 
for a few minutes but then jumps back up to 1080. I am surprised my 2.5 
connection will run 1080HD and nothing has changed on my end so I can 
only figure Netflix has done something on their end.  Anyway, just my 
observation.

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Re: [MBZ] OT dishwashers

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

I don't need to learn anything about welding - I know Dimitri.

On Mon, Apr 4, 2016 at 9:15 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Why would you let a welder work on your teeth?
>>
>> RB
>>
>
> That is government logic.   put a welder fixing teeth.  Use the dentist as
> a tanker or a gunner.  Andrew get a gov'ment check.
>
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[MBZ] OT Netflix

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

I have a 2.5mb connection.  In the past even when I had a 18mb 
connection at the other house I would struggle to get 480p streaming at 
times.  Here it would never get over 480.  The last week or 2, I have 
been watching the latest house of cards season and it pretty quickly 
jumps up to 1080p and usually stays there.  It sometimes drops to 780p 
for a few minutes but then jumps back up to 1080. I am surprised my 2.5 
connection will run 1080HD and nothing has changed on my end so I can 
only figure Netflix has done something on their end.  Anyway, just my 
observation.


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Re: [MBZ] More dishwasher

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

Told you... Lowe's sucks.

Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android

From:"Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes" 
Date:Mon, Apr 4, 2016 at 6:46 PM
Subject:Re: [MBZ] More dishwasher

Ps after discovering lowes does not have any Bosch at all in stock at any store 
I sent an inquire in at a local appliance dealer. They have them in stock and 
they are $200 cheaper than Lowes. Guess that's where I will be going if I go 
that route.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Apr 4, 2016, at 5:43 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin  wrote:
> 
> I pulled washer out and this is what I have under it. I pulled out what 
> looked like the drain pump and its clear. Only think I can't see is what is 
> in the main pump area but everything leading to it is clear. I guess I might 
> try running some of that afresh stuff thru it but I don't hold much hope. 
> Only thing left I can think of is whatever is inside the main pump and it is 
> secured with those machine installed hose clamps. Here are some photos of the 
> bottom and well and what all is and can be removed from the tub. 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 


> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone


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Re: [MBZ] OT dishwashers

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

Wish I was closer, I'd take a crack at it under your tutelage...


Curt

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From:"WILTON via Mercedes" 
Date:Mon, Apr 4, 2016 at 6:30 PM
Subject:Re: [MBZ] OT dishwashers

Yep, they do have welding, construction, dental assistant, mechanics, 
nursing and many other programs at the Com. College about 2 miles from here. 
'Still have all of my original teeth, 'cept wisdom 4, and in excellent 
condition with appropriate fillings and crowns - just need an able-bodied 
somebody with some common sense willing to listen, learn and get some 
practical experience repairing dry wall and plaster.  Again, I don't need a 
plasterer; 'don't even need a dry-waller.  I've repaired a lot of plaster 
walls and ceilings, but I'm NOT a plasterer; I've installed and repaired a 
significant amount of drywall, too, but I'm NOT a dry-waller.

Wilton

- Original Message - 
From: "Randy Bennell via Mercedes" 
To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Cc: "Randy Bennell" 
Sent: Monday, April 04, 2016 5:19 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT dishwashers


> Why would you let a welder work on your teeth?
>
> RB
>
> On 04/04/2016 4:16 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:
>> They may be able to fix teeth as well.
>>
>> On Mon, Apr 4, 2016 at 5:14 PM, WILTON via Mercedes 
>> 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Yep, local Com. College, thanks for reminder.
>>>
>>> Wilt
>>>
>>> - Original Message - From: "Craig via Mercedes" <
>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com>
>>> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
>>> Cc: "Craig" 
>>> Sent: Monday, April 04, 2016 4:46 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT dishwashers
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, 4 Apr 2016 19:35:50 + Rick Knoble via Mercedes
  wrote:

 Wilton writes:
>> ‎BTW, I'm considering asking local >high school vocational teacher if
>>> he can recommend a 17-year-old >who will listen to and follow my
 instructions to get ‎what I need >done and, at same time, learn
> something useful for himself for the rest of his life.
> Unfortunately, most HS vocational programs are a thing of the past. 
> Our
> school still has them though. My son went for a vocational welding
> class, and after some years of "finding himself", is now working as a
> welder. Imagine that.
>

 The community college in Los Alamos (aka UNM-Los Alamos) has welding
 classes that are well attended. Perhaps that's the level at which 
 Wilton
 should look.


 Craig

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[MBZ] Who needs a 220 S?

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

http://lansing.craigslist.org/cto/5502210712.html
 

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Re: [MBZ] OT dishwashers

[Curly McLain via Mercedes]

Why would you let a welder work on your teeth?

RB


That is government logic.   put a welder fixing teeth.  Use the 
dentist as a tanker or a gunner.  Andrew get a gov'ment check.


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Re: [MBZ] OT dishwashers

[OK Don via Mercedes]

Ya, but . . . most of those universities are government agencies, and they
are "helping the poor" byt providing guinea pigs for the students. Yes.
it's usually a win-win situation, but sometimes the patient comes out on
the short end.

On Mon, Apr 4, 2016 at 4:49 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

>
> ‎I do realize you're trolling, but believe it or not, universities with
> dental programs do take indigent patients. Some law schools also take cases
> for those less fortunate.
>
> Helping the poor without government intervention and interference. What a
> concept.
>
> 
>
>


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Re: [MBZ] OT dishwashers

[Randy Bennell via Mercedes]

On 04/04/2016 4:49 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes wrote:

Andy sez :

Wilton writes:
‎>> Yep, local Com. College, thanks >>for reminder.

‎>They may be able to fix teeth as >well.

‎I do realize you're trolling, but believe it or not, universities with dental 
programs do take indigent patients. Some law schools also take cases for those 
less fortunate.

Helping the poor without government intervention and interference. What a 
concept.



Rick
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Yes, just giving Andrew a hard time.

The local University here will let folks sign up to have students work 
on their teeth (supervised by Dentistry Professors of course).


RB


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Re: [MBZ] More dishwasher

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

Ps after discovering lowes does not have any Bosch at all in stock at any store 
I sent an inquire in at a local appliance dealer. They have them in stock and 
they are $200 cheaper than Lowes. Guess that's where I will be going if I go 
that route.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Apr 4, 2016, at 5:43 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin  wrote:
> 
> I pulled washer out and this is what I have under it. I pulled out what 
> looked like the drain pump and its clear. Only think I can't see is what is 
> in the main pump area but everything leading to it is clear. I guess I might 
> try running some of that afresh stuff thru it but I don't hold much hope. 
> Only thing left I can think of is whatever is inside the main pump and it is 
> secured with those machine installed hose clamps. Here are some photos of the 
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Re: [MBZ] Fw: mercedes benz diesel 240D No Rust low miles up to 40 MPG

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

That's not rust, it's patina! People pay money for that!

-- 
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'95 E300
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Re: [MBZ] OT Welding dishwashers

[Rich Thomas via Mercedes]

I looked into learning some welding at our CC, you can't just take one 
or two classes, you have to sign up for the certificate program and it 
is like 2 years of classes.  You learn a lot, but not what I want to do 
though I might decide at some point.  Being over 60 (just slightly!) I 
could do it free.  I guess I could just take the intro courses then walk 
away on the rest.


My buddy wanted to take baking classes, he is really into baking, but he 
ended up doing the whole program too, including internships serving food 
and working in a chocolate shop (which he liked, a lot!, and so did 
I!).  When he signed up they made him take an English proficiency test, 
he is retired pathologist but they said that didn't count they still had 
to know he could reed and right engrish... he finally gave up arguing 
with the instructors who could not read plain instructions on how to do 
stuff, and what the science of certain cooking reactions is, and 
generally trying to communicate with his classmates who had considerable 
deficiencies.  But he can make some wicked cakes, bread, ice cream, and 
chocolates.  I got him started brewing beer, he has become a fanatic 
about that too.


I have become pretty good at sheetrocking and plaster repair but it is a 
bit of hike to come help you out.


--R

On 4/4/16 6:30 PM, WILTON via Mercedes wrote:
Yep, they do have welding, construction, dental assistant, mechanics, 
nursing and many other programs at the Com. College about 2 miles from 
here. 'Still have all of my original teeth, 'cept wisdom 4, and in 
excellent condition with appropriate fillings and crowns - just need 
an able-bodied somebody with some common sense willing to listen, 
learn and get some practical experience repairing dry wall and 
plaster.  Again, I don't need a plasterer; 'don't even need a 
dry-waller.  I've repaired a lot of plaster walls and ceilings, but 
I'm NOT a plasterer; I've installed and repaired a significant amount 
of drywall, too, but I'm NOT a dry-waller.


Wilton

- Original Message - From: "Randy Bennell via Mercedes" 


To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Cc: "Randy Bennell" 
Sent: Monday, April 04, 2016 5:19 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT dishwashers



Why would you let a welder work on your teeth?

RB

On 04/04/2016 4:16 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:

They may be able to fix teeth as well.

On Mon, Apr 4, 2016 at 5:14 PM, WILTON via Mercedes 


wrote:


Yep, local Com. College, thanks for reminder.

Wilt

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mercedes@okiebenz.com>
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Cc: "Craig" 
Sent: Monday, April 04, 2016 4:46 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT dishwashers


On Mon, 4 Apr 2016 19:35:50 + Rick Knoble via Mercedes

 wrote:

Wilton writes:
‎BTW, I'm considering asking local >high school vocational 
teacher if

he can recommend a 17-year-old >who will listen to and follow my

instructions to get ‎what I need >done and, at same time, learn

something useful for himself for the rest of his life.
Unfortunately, most HS vocational programs are a thing of the 
past. Our

school still has them though. My son went for a vocational welding
class, and after some years of "finding himself", is now working 
as a

welder. Imagine that.



The community college in Los Alamos (aka UNM-Los Alamos) has welding
classes that are well attended. Perhaps that's the level at which 
Wilton

should look.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] OT dishwashers

[WILTON via Mercedes]

Yep, they do have welding, construction, dental assistant, mechanics, 
nursing and many other programs at the Com. College about 2 miles from here. 
'Still have all of my original teeth, 'cept wisdom 4, and in excellent 
condition with appropriate fillings and crowns - just need an able-bodied 
somebody with some common sense willing to listen, learn and get some 
practical experience repairing dry wall and plaster.  Again, I don't need a 
plasterer; 'don't even need a dry-waller.  I've repaired a lot of plaster 
walls and ceilings, but I'm NOT a plasterer; I've installed and repaired a 
significant amount of drywall, too, but I'm NOT a dry-waller.


Wilton

- Original Message - 
From: "Randy Bennell via Mercedes" 

To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Cc: "Randy Bennell" 
Sent: Monday, April 04, 2016 5:19 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT dishwashers



Why would you let a welder work on your teeth?

RB

On 04/04/2016 4:16 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:

They may be able to fix teeth as well.

On Mon, Apr 4, 2016 at 5:14 PM, WILTON via Mercedes 


wrote:


Yep, local Com. College, thanks for reminder.

Wilt

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Cc: "Craig" 
Sent: Monday, April 04, 2016 4:46 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT dishwashers


On Mon, 4 Apr 2016 19:35:50 + Rick Knoble via Mercedes

 wrote:

Wilton writes:

‎BTW, I'm considering asking local >high school vocational teacher if

he can recommend a 17-year-old >who will listen to and follow my

instructions to get ‎what I need >done and, at same time, learn

something useful for himself for the rest of his life.
Unfortunately, most HS vocational programs are a thing of the past. 
Our

school still has them though. My son went for a vocational welding
class, and after some years of "finding himself", is now working as a
welder. Imagine that.



The community college in Los Alamos (aka UNM-Los Alamos) has welding
classes that are well attended. Perhaps that's the level at which 
Wilton

should look.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] OT dishwashers

[Rick Knoble via Mercedes]

Andy sez :

Wilton writes:
‎>> Yep, local Com. College, thanks >>for reminder.

‎>They may be able to fix teeth as >well.

‎I do realize you're trolling, but believe it or not, universities with dental 
programs do take indigent patients. Some law schools also take cases for those 
less fortunate. 

Helping the poor without government intervention and interference. What a 
concept. 



Rick 
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Re: [MBZ] Fw: mercedes benz diesel 240D No Rust low miles up to 40 MPG

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I see he's amended his ad now, stopped mentioning the little spot of no rust.
-Curt

  From: Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
 To: Mercedes Discussion List  
Cc: Curt Raymond 
 Sent: Monday, April 4, 2016 5:34 PM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Fw: mercedes benz diesel 240D No Rust low miles up to 40 MPG
   
I trolled him a little, asked him why he lies in his ad. He asked me if I want 
to "put up or shut up".
He didn't reply to my mention that there are no pics of the interior...
-Curt

      From: Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
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Cc: Randy Bennell 
 Sent: Monday, April 4, 2016 5:22 PM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Fw: mercedes benz diesel 240D No Rust low miles up to 40 MPG
  
He does admit that much at least. He starts right out saying he is a 
dealer and bought it at an auction.

RB

On 04/04/2016 4:18 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes wrote:
> I got it cheap now I'm trying to flip it and make $2k on the best 
> engine ever built
>
> --R
>
> On 4/4/16 5:01 PM, Fred Moir via Mercedes wrote:
>> Truth in advertising?
>>
>> I have a bridge for sale.
>>
>> Fred
>>
>>
>> Fred Moir.
>> Lynn MA.
>> Diesel preferred.
>>
>>
>> mercedes benz diesel 240D No Rust low miles up to 40 MPG
>>
>> http://boston.craigslist.org/nwb/cto/552107.html
>>
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Re: [MBZ] Fw: mercedes benz diesel 240D No Rust low miles up to 40 MPG

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

I trolled him a little, asked him why he lies in his ad. He asked me if I want 
to "put up or shut up".
He didn't reply to my mention that there are no pics of the interior...
-Curt

  From: Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
 To: Mercedes Discussion List  
Cc: Randy Bennell 
 Sent: Monday, April 4, 2016 5:22 PM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Fw: mercedes benz diesel 240D No Rust low miles up to 40 MPG
   
He does admit that much at least. He starts right out saying he is a 
dealer and bought it at an auction.

RB

On 04/04/2016 4:18 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes wrote:
> I got it cheap now I'm trying to flip it and make $2k on the best 
> engine ever built
>
> --R
>
> On 4/4/16 5:01 PM, Fred Moir via Mercedes wrote:
>> Truth in advertising?
>>
>> I have a bridge for sale.
>>
>> Fred
>>
>>
>> Fred Moir.
>> Lynn MA.
>> Diesel preferred.
>>
>>
>> mercedes benz diesel 240D No Rust low miles up to 40 MPG
>>
>> http://boston.craigslist.org/nwb/cto/552107.html
>>
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Re: [MBZ] Fw: mercedes benz diesel 240D No Rust low miles up to 40 MPG

[Randy Bennell via Mercedes]

He does admit that much at least. He starts right out saying he is a 
dealer and bought it at an auction.


RB

On 04/04/2016 4:18 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes wrote:
I got it cheap now I'm trying to flip it and make $2k on the best 
engine ever built


--R

On 4/4/16 5:01 PM, Fred Moir via Mercedes wrote:

Truth in advertising?

I have a bridge for sale.

Fred


Fred Moir.
Lynn MA.
Diesel preferred.


mercedes benz diesel 240D No Rust low miles up to 40 MPG

http://boston.craigslist.org/nwb/cto/552107.html

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Re: [MBZ] OT dishwashers

[Randy Bennell via Mercedes]

Why would you let a welder work on your teeth?

RB

On 04/04/2016 4:16 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:

They may be able to fix teeth as well.

On Mon, Apr 4, 2016 at 5:14 PM, WILTON via Mercedes 
wrote:


Yep, local Com. College, thanks for reminder.

Wilt

- Original Message - From: "Craig via Mercedes" <
mercedes@okiebenz.com>
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Cc: "Craig" 
Sent: Monday, April 04, 2016 4:46 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT dishwashers


On Mon, 4 Apr 2016 19:35:50 + Rick Knoble via Mercedes

 wrote:

Wilton writes:

‎BTW, I'm considering asking local >high school vocational teacher if

he can recommend a 17-year-old >who will listen to and follow my

instructions to get ‎what I need >done and, at same time, learn

something useful for himself for the rest of his life.

Unfortunately, most HS vocational programs are a thing of the past. Our
school still has them though. My son went for a vocational welding
class, and after some years of "finding himself", is now working as a
welder. Imagine that.



The community college in Los Alamos (aka UNM-Los Alamos) has welding
classes that are well attended. Perhaps that's the level at which Wilton
should look.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Fw: mercedes benz diesel 240D No Rust low miles up to 40 MPG

[Randy Bennell via Mercedes]

No, no, you just need to buy a $1,000 welder and take a few lessons on 
how to use it and it will be an easy fix.


RB

On 04/04/2016 4:17 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:

Easy to fix - with a piece of cardboard!

On Mon, Apr 4, 2016 at 5:12 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:


"No Rust (there is a small spot on the drivers floor) easy to fix"
Who writes this stuff?
-Curt
   From: Fred Moir via Mercedes 
  To: Mercedes Discussion List 
Cc: Fred Moir 
  Sent: Monday, April 4, 2016 5:01 PM
  Subject: [MBZ] Fw: mercedes benz diesel 240D No Rust low miles up to 40
MPG

Truth in advertising?

I have a bridge for sale.

Fred


Fred Moir.
Lynn MA.
Diesel preferred.


mercedes benz diesel 240D No Rust low miles up to 40 MPG

http://boston.craigslist.org/nwb/cto/552107.html

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Re: [MBZ] Fw: mercedes benz diesel 240D No Rust low miles up to 40 MPG

[Rich Thomas via Mercedes]

I got it cheap now I'm trying to flip it and make $2k on the best engine 
ever built


--R

On 4/4/16 5:01 PM, Fred Moir via Mercedes wrote:

Truth in advertising?

I have a bridge for sale.

Fred


Fred Moir.
Lynn MA.
Diesel preferred.


mercedes benz diesel 240D No Rust low miles up to 40 MPG

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Re: [MBZ] Fw: mercedes benz diesel 240D No Rust low miles up to 40 MPG

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Easy to fix - with a piece of cardboard!

On Mon, Apr 4, 2016 at 5:12 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> "No Rust (there is a small spot on the drivers floor) easy to fix"
> Who writes this stuff?
> -Curt
>   From: Fred Moir via Mercedes 
>  To: Mercedes Discussion List 
> Cc: Fred Moir 
>  Sent: Monday, April 4, 2016 5:01 PM
>  Subject: [MBZ] Fw: mercedes benz diesel 240D No Rust low miles up to 40
> MPG
>
> Truth in advertising?
>
> I have a bridge for sale.
>
> Fred
>
>
> Fred Moir.
> Lynn MA.
> Diesel preferred.
>
>
> mercedes benz diesel 240D No Rust low miles up to 40 MPG
>
> http://boston.craigslist.org/nwb/cto/552107.html
>
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Re: [MBZ] OT dishwashers

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

They may be able to fix teeth as well.

On Mon, Apr 4, 2016 at 5:14 PM, WILTON via Mercedes 
wrote:

> Yep, local Com. College, thanks for reminder.
>
> Wilt
>
> - Original Message - From: "Craig via Mercedes" <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com>
> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
> Cc: "Craig" 
> Sent: Monday, April 04, 2016 4:46 PM
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT dishwashers
>
>
> On Mon, 4 Apr 2016 19:35:50 + Rick Knoble via Mercedes
>>  wrote:
>>
>> Wilton writes:
>>>
>>> >‎BTW, I'm considering asking local >high school vocational teacher if
>>> >>he can recommend a 17-year-old >who will listen to and follow my
>>> >>>instructions to get ‎what I need >done and, at same time, learn
>>> something useful for himself for the rest of his life.
>>>
>>> Unfortunately, most HS vocational programs are a thing of the past. Our
>>> school still has them though. My son went for a vocational welding
>>> class, and after some years of "finding himself", is now working as a
>>> welder. Imagine that.
>>>
>>
>>
>> The community college in Los Alamos (aka UNM-Los Alamos) has welding
>> classes that are well attended. Perhaps that's the level at which Wilton
>> should look.
>>
>>
>> Craig
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Re: [MBZ] OT dishwashers

[WILTON via Mercedes]

Yep, local Com. College, thanks for reminder.

Wilt

- Original Message - 
From: "Craig via Mercedes" 

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On Mon, 4 Apr 2016 19:35:50 + Rick Knoble via Mercedes
 wrote:


Wilton writes:

>‎BTW, I'm considering asking local >high school vocational teacher if
>>he can recommend a 17-year-old >who will listen to and follow my
>>>instructions to get ‎what I need >done and, at same time, learn
something useful for himself for the rest of his life.

Unfortunately, most HS vocational programs are a thing of the past. Our
school still has them though. My son went for a vocational welding
class, and after some years of "finding himself", is now working as a
welder. Imagine that.



The community college in Los Alamos (aka UNM-Los Alamos) has welding
classes that are well attended. Perhaps that's the level at which Wilton
should look.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Fw: mercedes benz diesel 240D No Rust low miles up to 40 MPG

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

"No Rust (there is a small spot on the drivers floor) easy to fix"
Who writes this stuff?
-Curt
  From: Fred Moir via Mercedes 
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Cc: Fred Moir 
 Sent: Monday, April 4, 2016 5:01 PM
 Subject: [MBZ] Fw: mercedes benz diesel 240D No Rust low miles up to 40 MPG
   
Truth in advertising?

I have a bridge for sale.

Fred


Fred Moir.
Lynn MA.
Diesel preferred.


mercedes benz diesel 240D No Rust low miles up to 40 MPG

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Re: [MBZ] Fw: mercedes benz diesel 240D No Rust low miles up to 40 MPG

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On 04/04/2016 4:01 PM, Fred Moir via Mercedes wrote:

Truth in advertising?

I have a bridge for sale.

Fred


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mercedes benz diesel 240D No Rust low miles up to 40 MPG

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Do you ever wonder why people who advertise that whatever is wrong with 
their item, is"easy to repair", don't just fix it so that they don't 
have to tell you it has troubles?


I also wonder at people who advertise that they have spent an arm and a 
leg repairing things on some old beater. I should think it would make 
more sense to keep one's mouth closed.
Potential purchasers do not need to be reminded that old vehicles 
require a lot of repair.


RB

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[MBZ] Fw: mercedes benz diesel 240D No Rust low miles up to 40 MPG

[Fred Moir via Mercedes]

Truth in advertising?

I have a bridge for sale.

Fred


Fred Moir.
Lynn MA.
Diesel preferred.


mercedes benz diesel 240D No Rust low miles up to 40 MPG

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Re: [MBZ] OT dishwashers

[Rick Knoble via Mercedes]

Craig sez:

>The community college in Los >Alamos (aka UNM-Los Alamos) >has welding classes 
>that are well >attended. Perhaps that's the level >at which Wilton should look.

Well, Wilton needs a paint prep/ painter ‎not a welder, but perhaps someone at 
the local community college that has a building trades program could help. 

I was just using my son's vocational experience as a reference.

Rick 
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Re: [MBZ] OT dishwashers

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Mon, 4 Apr 2016 19:35:50 + Rick Knoble via Mercedes
 wrote:

> Wilton writes:
> 
> >‎BTW, I'm considering asking local >high school vocational teacher if
> >>he can recommend a 17-year-old >who will listen to and follow my
> >>>instructions to get ‎what I need >done and, at same time, learn
> something useful for himself for the rest of his life.
> 
> Unfortunately, most HS vocational programs are a thing of the past. Our
> school still has them though. My son went for a vocational welding
> class, and after some years of "finding himself", is now working as a
> welder. Imagine that.


The community college in Los Alamos (aka UNM-Los Alamos) has welding
classes that are well attended. Perhaps that's the level at which Wilton
should look.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] OT winders 10

[Tim Crone via Mercedes]

On Mon, Apr 4, 2016 at 2:53 PM, Craig via Mercedes
 wrote:
> On Mon, 4 Apr 2016 09:01:55 -0400 Tim Crone via Mercedes
>  wrote:
>
>> I don't care for metro but I'm used to it from using 2012 at work, so
>> that was not a big issue.
>
> What is "metro"?

The much-maligned Windows 8 interface.  In 10 it is relatively easy to
ignore, in 8 / Server 2012 it really gets in the way.

>> No slowdown or other issues on my older hardware, for what that's worth.
>
> What capabilities do your older hardware have?

The active computers are older (2011/2-ish) enterprise equipment: a
couple Dell Latitudes, an HP desktop, a Dell tower.  I believe they
are all 64-bit capable processors.

During the beta I also had W10 installed on my Dell netbook (mini 10v,
32-bit Intel Atom I think) and it ran okay, no worse than XP/7 - but
the screen driver died shortly after.  If I were Jim I would have
resoldered it, but I am not Jim so it's been recycled.  That was
definitely a hardware failure, it was a long time coming.

Best,
Tim

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Re: [MBZ] OT dishwashers

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

No it's not under warranty anymore.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Apr 4, 2016, at 1:11 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Is this washer still under warranty?  Maybe there is a recall?
> 
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Re: [MBZ] OT dishwashers

[Rick Knoble via Mercedes]

Wilton writes:

>‎BTW, I'm considering asking local >high school vocational teacher if >he can 
>recommend a 17-year-old >who will listen to and follow my >instructions to get 
>‎what I need >done and, at same time, learn >something useful for himself for 
>the rest of his life.

Unfortunately, most HS vocational programs are a thing of the past. Our school 
still has them though. My son went for a vocational welding class, and after 
some years of "finding himself", is now working as a welder. Imagine that.

Rick 
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Re: [MBZ] OT winders 10

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Mon, 4 Apr 2016 09:01:55 -0400 Tim Crone via Mercedes
 wrote:

> I don't care for metro but I'm used to it from using 2012 at work, so
> that was not a big issue.

What is "metro"?


> No slowdown or other issues on my older hardware, for what that's worth.

What capabilities do your older hardware have?


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] OT dishwashers

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

Is this washer still under warranty?  Maybe there is a recall?

-
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Charleston SC
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[MBZ] Washer parts again

[rogerhga--- via Mercedes]

Kaleb, 
Does yours have the removable plate across the bottom? I've unscrewed/removed 
mine and checked wiring, water/drain line connections, and in general cleaned 
the dust/dirt out that gets underneath (like it does the refrig and stove). 
Again, there might be some blockage somewhere. I was going to suggest Sears for 
parts and diagrams. I got my Maytag from Sears and sometimes they have nice 
parts diagrams. Also, sometimes if you call the parts center, they may have 
more diagrams in house than what they've put online. They can be helpful if 
they think they are going to sell you a part or two. Just a thought. 
Best wishes and good luck, 
Roger 
Roger Hale 
Dinnerware Classics, Inc. 
Monroe, Ga. 
770-267-0850 
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Re: [MBZ] Hard starting

[Rich Thomas via Mercedes]

They are Special Car Guys

Here is a piccie of the old Bentley if it makes it through

--R



On 4/4/16 11:45 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:

I love the guys in the plantation suits.  What century did they time-warp
in from?

On Mon, Apr 4, 2016 at 11:33 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:


There was a video somewhere of, I think it was a Jag from the teens or so
that was totally hellfire, IIRC it didn't have an exhaust yet...
-Curt

   From: Rich Thomas via Mercedes 
  To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
Cc: Rich Thomas 
  Sent: Monday, April 4, 2016 11:31 AM
  Subject: Re: [MBZ] Hard starting

At the Cars & Coffee down the road a few months back a guy had an old
Bentley, 20s or 30s, huge engine, he fired it up and you could barely
hear it idle.  Very smooth and fairly quiet.  Likewise I was expecting
hellfire and brimstone, weeping and wailing and gnashing of teeth, and
the demons of the underworld screaming their evil imprecations.

--R

On 4/4/16 11:17 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:

Such a dignified old gent. I figured when it started it'd be all

hellfire but its quite sedate...

-Curt

From: Rich Thomas via Mercedes 
  To: Mercedes Discussion List 
Cc: Rich Thomas 
  Sent: Monday, April 4, 2016 10:37 AM
  Subject: [MBZ] Hard starting

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xMa3_tT5mKA=em-subs_digest-vrecs

--R

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Re: [MBZ] Hard starting

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

I love the guys in the plantation suits.  What century did they time-warp
in from?

On Mon, Apr 4, 2016 at 11:33 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> There was a video somewhere of, I think it was a Jag from the teens or so
> that was totally hellfire, IIRC it didn't have an exhaust yet...
> -Curt
>
>   From: Rich Thomas via Mercedes 
>  To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
> Cc: Rich Thomas 
>  Sent: Monday, April 4, 2016 11:31 AM
>  Subject: Re: [MBZ] Hard starting
>
> At the Cars & Coffee down the road a few months back a guy had an old
> Bentley, 20s or 30s, huge engine, he fired it up and you could barely
> hear it idle.  Very smooth and fairly quiet.  Likewise I was expecting
> hellfire and brimstone, weeping and wailing and gnashing of teeth, and
> the demons of the underworld screaming their evil imprecations.
>
> --R
>
> On 4/4/16 11:17 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:
> > Such a dignified old gent. I figured when it started it'd be all
> hellfire but its quite sedate...
> > -Curt
> >
> >From: Rich Thomas via Mercedes 
> >  To: Mercedes Discussion List 
> > Cc: Rich Thomas 
> >  Sent: Monday, April 4, 2016 10:37 AM
> >  Subject: [MBZ] Hard starting
> >
> > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xMa3_tT5mKA=em-subs_digest-vrecs
> >
> > --R
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Re: [MBZ] OT dishwashers

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

SWMBO insists on washing the dishes in hot  soapy water by hand BEFORE
loading them into the dw.  They never  get any cleaner...

On Mon, Apr 4, 2016 at 11:33 AM, rogerhga--- via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Kaleb,
> Have you checked for any "kinks" or restrictions in your drain hose? It
> might not be able to completely drain the wash cycle before the rinse cycle
> starts, hence leaving food particles for the rinse cycle to circulate. Just
> trying to think of anything.
> Best Wishes,
> Roger
> Roger Hale
> Dinnerware Classics, Inc.
> Monroe, Ga.
> 770-267-0850
> www.dinnerwareclassics.com
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Re: [MBZ] Hard starting

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

There was a video somewhere of, I think it was a Jag from the teens or so that 
was totally hellfire, IIRC it didn't have an exhaust yet...
-Curt

  From: Rich Thomas via Mercedes 
 To: mercedes@okiebenz.com 
Cc: Rich Thomas 
 Sent: Monday, April 4, 2016 11:31 AM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Hard starting
   
At the Cars & Coffee down the road a few months back a guy had an old 
Bentley, 20s or 30s, huge engine, he fired it up and you could barely 
hear it idle.  Very smooth and fairly quiet.  Likewise I was expecting 
hellfire and brimstone, weeping and wailing and gnashing of teeth, and 
the demons of the underworld screaming their evil imprecations.

--R

On 4/4/16 11:17 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:
> Such a dignified old gent. I figured when it started it'd be all hellfire but 
> its quite sedate...
> -Curt
>
>        From: Rich Thomas via Mercedes 
>  To: Mercedes Discussion List 
> Cc: Rich Thomas 
>  Sent: Monday, April 4, 2016 10:37 AM
>  Subject: [MBZ] Hard starting
>    
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xMa3_tT5mKA=em-subs_digest-vrecs
>
> --R
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Re: [MBZ] OT dishwashers

[rogerhga--- via Mercedes]

Kaleb, 
Have you checked for any "kinks" or restrictions in your drain hose? It might 
not be able to completely drain the wash cycle before the rinse cycle starts, 
hence leaving food particles for the rinse cycle to circulate. Just trying to 
think of anything. 
Best Wishes, 
Roger 
Roger Hale 
Dinnerware Classics, Inc. 
Monroe, Ga. 
770-267-0850 
www.dinnerwareclassics.com 


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Re: [MBZ] VW

[archer75--- via Mercedes]

The only thing I found on the net was a story written in 2015; apparently right 
after VW was caught. It said all models with the 2 liter engines were banned, 
but I seem to remember that more were added later on.
Gerry
~~~
> Depends on which models, I think the Passats are okay later.
> I was right: https://www.epa.gov/vw
> -Curt
> 
>   From: OK Don via Mercedes 
>  To: Mercedes Discussion List  
> Cc: OK Don 
>  Sent: Sunday, April 3, 2016 11:17 PM
>  Subject: Re: [MBZ] VW
>
> I think it's 2008. Those from 2009 to the current date are in violation of
> the emissions standards. Thus, those from 2009 to now should be bargains,
> if you don't mind putting more NOx into the air than the standards since
> 2009 allow. They probably put out less than any of the old MB Diesels this
> group tends to drive though . . .
> 
> On Sun, Apr 3, 2016 at 8:19 PM, archer75--- via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
> >
> > What year is the "newest" VW diesel that is not under restriction?
> > Thanks,
> > Gerry
> >
> >
> >
> 
> 
> -- 
> OK Don
> 
> *“Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness, and many of
> our people need it sorely on these accounts.”* – Mark Twain
> 
> "There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who
> learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence
> for themselves."
> 
> WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers*
> 2013 F150, 18 mpg
> 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg
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Re: [MBZ] Hard starting

[Rich Thomas via Mercedes]

At the Cars & Coffee down the road a few months back a guy had an old 
Bentley, 20s or 30s, huge engine, he fired it up and you could barely 
hear it idle.  Very smooth and fairly quiet.  Likewise I was expecting 
hellfire and brimstone, weeping and wailing and gnashing of teeth, and 
the demons of the underworld screaming their evil imprecations.


--R

On 4/4/16 11:17 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:

Such a dignified old gent. I figured when it started it'd be all hellfire but 
its quite sedate...
-Curt

   From: Rich Thomas via Mercedes 
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Cc: Rich Thomas 
  Sent: Monday, April 4, 2016 10:37 AM
  Subject: [MBZ] Hard starting

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xMa3_tT5mKA=em-subs_digest-vrecs


--R

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[MBZ] Washer parts again

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

I did find my model on sears parts of all places, but not maytag, go figure.
It appears everything is under the washer and not accessible from the top.
Maybe I will try pulling it out and taking it apart from the bottom.  These
do not appear to be nearly as repairable as other/older models.

 

http://www.searspartsdirect.com/model-part/mdb8969sdm0/3048/013/w1412103
/7.html

 

Kaleb C. Striplin 

Tulsa Market Manager 

Dealer Specialties | Dominion Dealer Solutions 

918-803-1618 (mobile) | 815-417-9748 (fax) 

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Re: [MBZ] OT dishwashers

[Fred Moir via Mercedes]

Curt, et all-o'-yer.
We used to have a built in dishwasher, but he died (Pop), so I have been doing 
dishes by hand ever since.
At 4pm-ish the sun is usually shining in the window and I'm not being bothered 
by any one, hands in warm water, sun, blue sky= therapy.
Besides, no woman ever shot a man whilst he was washing the dishes!
YMMV

Fred Moir.
Lynn MA.
Diesel preferred.


From: Mercedes  on behalf of Curt Raymond via 
Mercedes 
Sent: 04 April 2016 14:14
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Cc: Curt Raymond
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT dishwashers

So at what point is using a dishwasher more work than just washing the dishes 
by hand? Granted theres only two of us but we rarely use the dishwasher. It 
takes more time to fill the darn thing than it does to just wash 'em...
We've got a 30+ year old washer, I think its a Kenmore. Does a fine job, the 
only time I ever needed to mess with it was the time Angie couldn't get the top 
rack to close. I pulled the rack out and discovered she'd put a knife in it 
that was sticking out the back...
-Curt
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Re: [MBZ] Hard starting

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

Such a dignified old gent. I figured when it started it'd be all hellfire but 
its quite sedate...
-Curt

  From: Rich Thomas via Mercedes 
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Cc: Rich Thomas 
 Sent: Monday, April 4, 2016 10:37 AM
 Subject: [MBZ] Hard starting
   
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xMa3_tT5mKA=em-subs_digest-vrecs

--R

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[MBZ] Dishwasher parts

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

So what is strange is my model is not listed on any parts sites. I thought I 
would see if I could figure out anything by looking at part. Does not appear 
parts are available for this one, strange.

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[MBZ] Hard starting

[Rich Thomas via Mercedes]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xMa3_tT5mKA=em-subs_digest-vrecs

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Re: [MBZ] OT dishwashers

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

Years ago I was building a video studio for my employer. We'd decided to paint 
one wall green in case we wanted to do some chromakey work. I explained to the 
guy that it was important that the wall be flat and the paint be 
non-reflective.He spent half a day getting it flat, he finally made a sanding 
block out of 4 feet of 2x6. You couldn't find an imperfection on that wall 
anywhere. The paint was perfect too, he put on 3 coats in the second half of 
the day and you couldn't see any lap lines or drips or anything. That guy was a 
real expert.
-Curt

  From: WILTON via Mercedes 
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Cc: WILTON 
 Sent: Sunday, April 3, 2016 11:53 PM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT dishwashers
   
While I was restoring the two 1875 mansions 30 years ago, I found that 
everybody who "came along" wanting a job swore that he was the best painter 
anywhere.  Almost all of 'em were FOS, to put it bluntly.

Wilton

- Original Message - 
From: "Scott Ritchey via Mercedes" 
To: "'Mitch Haley'" ; "'Mercedes Discussion List'" 

Cc: "Scott Ritchey" 
Sent: Sunday, April 03, 2016 8:59 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT dishwashers


> We’ve had more problems with painters than any other trade.  One painter 
> told me (quite proudly, bragged actually) that he didn’t drink and he had 
> a drivers’ license.  I think he reckoned that put him at the top of the 
> heap.
>
>
>
> From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Mitch 
> Haley via Mercedes
> Sent: Sunday, April 03, 2016 12:30 PM
> To: Mercedes Discussion List 
> Cc: Mitch Haley 
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT dishwashers
>
>
>
>
>
> Re: Limitations: Painters aren't plasterers or even drywall finishers. 
> Some guys can use thought and reason to work outside their field of 
> expertise, your painter can't.
>
>
>
> Mitch.
>
>
>
>
>
> On April 3, 2016 at 11:24 AM WILTON via Mercedes   > wrote:
>
> Painter I talked to for bid on repairs and painting can't seem to 
> understand
> what I've been trying to tell ''im 'bout the repairs. He doesn't seem to
> realize that I know what the Hell I'm talking about.
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Re: [MBZ] VW

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

Depends on which models, I think the Passats are okay later.
I was right: https://www.epa.gov/vw
-Curt

  From: OK Don via Mercedes 
 To: Mercedes Discussion List  
Cc: OK Don 
 Sent: Sunday, April 3, 2016 11:17 PM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] VW
   
I think it's 2008. Those from 2009 to the current date are in violation of
the emissions standards. Thus, those from 2009 to now should be bargains,
if you don't mind putting more NOx into the air than the standards since
2009 allow. They probably put out less than any of the old MB Diesels this
group tends to drive though . . .

On Sun, Apr 3, 2016 at 8:19 PM, archer75--- via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

>
> What year is the "newest" VW diesel that is not under restriction?
> Thanks,
> Gerry
>
>
>


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Re: [MBZ] 124 visor clip

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

They take paint well if you find the wrong color. I painted the ones in the '78 
240D, I'd pulled 'em from my '83 240D which had a light tan interior. Rustoleum 
brown was a perfect match...
-Curt

  From: Dwight Giles via Mercedes 
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Cc: Dwight Giles 
 Sent: Sunday, April 3, 2016 9:55 PM
 Subject: [MBZ] 124 visor clip
   
Does,anyone have a,spare visor clip for a 90 300D 2.5t? I prefer blue but
could  live with black.
Thanks

Dwight Giles Jr.
1982 300CD
1990 300D
Wickford RI
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Re: [MBZ] VW

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

Depends on the state I think. My '98 has to be connected to the computer but as 
long as there are no codes its groovy. I don't know if there are any states 
that still do a sniffer test.
-Curt

  From: archer75--- via Mercedes 
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 Sent: Sunday, April 3, 2016 9:19 PM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] VW
   

What year is the "newest" VW diesel that is not under restriction?
Thanks,
Gerry

Bob Rentfro via Mercedes  wrote:
> When I took my w210 in for emissions here in AZ, they simply performed an
> opacity test. Why can't VW diesels simply have to pass an old school
> opacity test which is, evidently, sufficient for older diesels?
> > Bob R

> On Apr 2, 2016 10:01 PM, "G Mann via Mercedes" 
> wrote:
> > Read a report some days ago that the All Powerful EPA has VW in lockdown
> > over this issue and a lawsuit has been filed against VW in the 20 Billion
> > dollar range. All cars now in country are frozen from being sold and none
> > can be imported until the EPA says they can...
> >
> > That has to sting a bit...
> >
> > I could be wrong on the 20 Billion.. just skimmed the report.. seems the
> > number was higher than that.. but since I have no dog in the fight.. only a
> > quick glance for the highlights.

> > On Sat, Apr 2, 2016 at 9:28 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > > The amount of dealer pain is proportional to the proportion of diesels
> > >> typically sold by that dealer. In Phoenix it is like 20%; here in LA
> > more
> > >> like 40%.

> > >> On Mar 30, 2016 11:37 AM, "Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes" <
> > >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> > > VW should just pack em up and ship em to the RTW where the greenie
> > weenies
> > > don't go.  Plenty people will buy em in RTW.  Well, plenty people here
> > > would buy em if someone could get the epa under control. That aint gonna
> > > happen as long as the gress of cons keeps funding em.


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Re: [MBZ] OT dishwashers

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

Don't forget Leo Nardo.

-Curt

  From: Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
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Cc: Dan Penoff 
 Sent: Sunday, April 3, 2016 4:58 PM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT dishwashers
   
Is he related to Don Atello?



Dan


> On Apr 3, 2016, at 4:27 PM, OK Don via Mercedes  wrote:
> 
> Rent one of those mutli-scissor parallel lift things and let it lift you to
> the ceiling instead of climbing a ladder - could even lie on your back like
> Michael Angelo . . .
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Re: [MBZ] This Weekend's Fun (long)

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

Nice!
We have hardwood flooring under the carpets all through our house. Waiting for 
a friend to finish with a rental property so I can hire him to refinish our 
kitchen. Carpet in a kitchen is a dumb idea...
-Curt

  From: Max Dillon via Mercedes 
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Cc: Max Dillon 
 Sent: Sunday, April 3, 2016 8:26 PM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] This Weekend's Fun (long)
   
Today I began real work toward installing oak flooring in our living room. 

Spent a few hours driving around to hardware stores and a flooring store 
getting little odds and ends and some material.

Packed up daughter's toys, moved couch and tables to side of the room with the 
piano and console-buffet /TV/VCR/DVD player, and then pulled up the carpet and 
pad on the empty side of the room.

Rich has loaned me all the necessary power tools.  SWMBO has decided it is 
time.  Should be done with this room in a by the end of next weekend, may move 
into the dining room next...
-- 
Max Dillon
Charleston SC
'87 300TD
'95 E300
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Re: [MBZ] OT dishwashers

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

So at what point is using a dishwasher more work than just washing the dishes 
by hand? Granted theres only two of us but we rarely use the dishwasher. It 
takes more time to fill the darn thing than it does to just wash 'em...
We've got a 30+ year old washer, I think its a Kenmore. Does a fine job, the 
only time I ever needed to mess with it was the time Angie couldn't get the top 
rack to close. I pulled the rack out and discovered she'd put a knife in it 
that was sticking out the back...
-Curt

  From: Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
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Cc: Kaleb C. Striplin 
 Sent: Sunday, April 3, 2016 5:06 PM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT dishwashers
   
Your rinse them before putting them in the dishwasher? Manual on mine says and 
everything I read says just scrape off the large food and put them in without 
prerinse.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Apr 3, 2016, at 3:48 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Dishes get scraped and rinsed.  Water heater is set for 140F.
> 
> Pots and pans are all commercial grade aluminum, they never see the inside of 
> a dishwasher.
> 
> Dan
> 
>> On Apr 3, 2016, at 11:24 AM, rogerhga--- via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Just a curious question in regards to the build up problem some of you are 
>> having. Do you put greasy/oily pots or pans in the dishwasher? I'm on a 
>> septic tank system, so I put all grease/oil in the trash. I clear most food 
>> off pans and plates. I don't have any problems with the door areas. Also, is 
>> your hot water set high enough? Just curious if other factors may be 
>> involved. Again, I cleaned my "old" Maytag last year after 16 years of 
>> operation and found no similar problems. Maybe I'm lucky or whatever. 
>> Best Wishes, 
>> Roger 
>> Roger Hale 
>> Dinnerware Classics, Inc. 
>> Monroe, Ga. 
>> 770-267-0850 
>> www.dinnerwareclassics.com 
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Nice weather!

[Tim Crone via Mercedes]

On Sat, Mar 26, 2016 at 1:27 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes
 wrote:
> I'm assuming you've transplanted an engine into Wilton's former SDL?  This
> involved injection pump work?

Yes, from my 300 SDL to Wilton's 350SDL.  So far so good, just
prepping to make sure I have everything before I get something usable
stuck outside a car with nowhere to hide it from the rain.  Wish I had
gotten a garage when I moved... :/

Thanks for the detailed walkthrough!
-Tim

> Don't worry about the fuel unless the clear filter gets clogged with black
> bits, which is a sign that you have water in the fuel tank and a colony of
> fungus / microbial growth.  In that case, until you can address that, rig a
> small container in the engine bay to provide fuel.
>
> Oil: I wouldn't sweat that either, until after you've gotten the engine
> running for a bit, then change oil and filter. You could do that after the
> first start, or after you've driven it for a short test drive up to
> operating temperature.  Oil oxidizes and breaks down over time, but there's
> not much sense in changing oil and filter until after you've gotten the
> engine running.
>
> Starting procedure: I would plug in the block heater for at least an hour
> prior, to get as much heat as you can into the head to promote ignition.
>
> Keep a battery charger on the battery while cranking to keep from running
> the battery down.
>
> Disconnect the glow plugs, either the harness or pull the fuse.  Loosen
> each injector hard line at each injector, and start cranking.  As you get
> fuel at each injector, tighten up that line.  Usually #6 gets wet first,
> and then they run from back to front.  Once you've got all the injector
> lines bled out and tightened up, replace the glow plug harness or fuse, and
> then she'll probably light right off.
>
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Re: [MBZ] OT winders 10

[Tim Crone via Mercedes]

I have, on all my personal computers and laptops.  I like it better
than 7, but mainly because of the family policy management abilities
and improved login - as an OS it's generally the same
relatively-stable Windows experience.  I don't care for metro but I'm
used to it from using 2012 at work, so that was not a big issue.  No
slowdown or other issues on my older hardware, for what that's worth.

Best,
-Tim

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 wrote:
> Has anybody done the free upgrade from Windows 7 to 10?
>
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Re: [MBZ] OT dishwashers

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

Yes is does have the heating element and when opening the door the interior 
steams a ton and is very hot. On all the stuff I have seen on line videos and 
such with washers with this problem it seems to be a fairly simple fix which 
involves taking apart stuff below the wash arms down to the chopper. All the 
videos are if your typical maytag/whirlpool/kitchenaid. Mine is different. The 
wash arm and all the stuff under it requires no tools to remove. Everything 
snaps off and as far as I can go is down to a little filter like assembly (it's 
not really a filter but just seems to catch big stuff). There is nothing else 
to remove and no screws or covers to remove like other models I have seen so 
whatever inside that may be plugged up appears you have to either replace the 
whole pump assembly or take the thing out of the cabinet and take apart from 
underneath. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Apr 4, 2016, at 7:22 AM, rogerhga--- via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Kaleb, 
> Does your have a round heating element in the bottom? I think mine does and 
> it seems to add extra heat to the water. If I open the door during washing, 
> it steams like crazy, so it's really hot water washing the dishes. Maybe 
> there's a fuse blown on the unit or something. Mine is just a 110 unit with a 
> regular plug that plugs into a prewired outlet under the sink. Hate to see 
> you spend a bunch of money when it still might be something simple. 
> Best Wishes, 
> Roger 
> Roger Hale 
> Dinnerware Classics, Inc. 
> Monroe, Ga. 
> 770-267-0850 
> www.dinnerwareclassics.com 
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Re: [MBZ] OT dishwashers now old houses

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

I forgot about the woodwork. That house I was talking about that got gutted was 
filled with all that beautiful wookwork. It was all torn out and filled with 
regular modern sheet rock and trim. It was very very sad to see. 

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> On Apr 4, 2016, at 6:55 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> That would have been a very cool house.
> 
> I restored/renovated an old Victorian (1884), was not a "high" Victorian but 
> still had some style.  My neighbor around the corner still lives in an 1850s 
> Victorian that was pretty much all original inside except for a 1950s kitchen 
> redo and a new bathroom she put in but the old original bathroom is still 
> there as is all the woodwork, plaster, etc.  It had some minimal electrical 
> installed probably in the 20s, she had a few new circuits run but that is all 
> mostly "original" too.   It is an amazing gorgeous house.  The town was full 
> of them as the first "commuter" railroad was built up to the town from Boston 
> in the 1850s so wealthy people bought lots there and built houses starting 
> about that time period.  If you drive around the town you can see the 
> original farm houses from the 1600-1700s which had maybe 10 acres or so, then 
> the subsequent houses of different eras where the land was subdivided over 
> the next 300-400 years.
> 
> Right after I finished school and got a real job, a buddy said we should go 
> look at this row house in Charlestown MA (across the river from Boston) that 
> was up near the top of Bunker Hill.  The first floor had been carved up into 
> 3 or 4 little rathole apartments but the 2nd and 3rd floors were still pretty 
> much original though they each had a kitchen and bathroom installed at some 
> point to make them separate apartments.  Guy wanted $70k for it, which was a 
> fair chunk of change but running the numbers it made some sense.   The scheme 
> was to keep the 1st floor apts for some rental income while we redid the 2nd 
> and 3rd floors into condos we each would then have, live in one while redoing 
> the other, then moving into the new one, then redo the first floor and sell 
> it as a condo.  Problem was there was no parking except on the street and it 
> was a bit rough area with all the Townies being ignernt so I passed.  Fast 
> forward to present day, This Old House has redone buildings in that area, and 
> condos as we were going to do are going for $1M+.  Sigh...
> 
> --R
> 
>> On 4/4/16 5:28 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
>> Not long after we were married, we had the opportunity to buy an Andrew 
>> Carnegie library built in the 1930s in the neighborhood where the wife grew 
>> up.  Beautiful place, brick exterior with columns, huge interior, etc.  Here 
>> is a link to a Street view of it on the right:
>> 
>> https://www.google.com/maps/@39.4816306,-86.0526114,3a,75y,270h,90t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s304l4nek7OJ4GpnO5H0Gbw!2e0!7i3328!8i1664!6m1!1e1
>> 
>> City wanted to sell it and couldn’t find a buyer for over two years.  The 
>> price in 1980 dollars was $40,000.  It was in great physical shape and was a 
>> huge space inside, with the main floor being pretty much one giant open room 
>> and the lower level being separate rooms with a big kitchen in one of them.
>> 
>> Wife wouldn’t go for it.  A few months later the city sold it to a developer 
>> who made $150k condos out of it.
>> 
>> Dan
>> 
>> 
>>> On Apr 4, 2016, at 12:15 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Boy I would sure love to hear some Wilton stories about restoring mansions. 
>>> I have always wanted to do that. In fact many years ago we had the chance 
>>> to buy an old mansion like house that belonged to a local dr. Was an early 
>>> 1900s was not Victorian, but it slips the mind what style they called it. 
>>> Colonial maybe. We could have picked it up for something like 60k, had the 
>>> loan all lined out etc but for whatever reason we didn't do it. It's main 
>>> issues were pluming to the upstairs bathroom.
>>> Several years before that there was and old Victorian that was for sale for 
>>> a long time that belonged to a school teacher that died. At the time is was 
>>> pretty much original, had all original hardwood floors all thru the house, 
>>> original interior walls, bathrooms and such. I think it got down to like 
>>> $85k and was finally sold. This was in the late 90s when I knew nothing 
>>> about buying real estate. Whoever bought it completely gutted the interior. 
>>> I mean completely gutted, all interior walls torn out, everything. It went 
>>> back on the market I think they got foreclosed on or something. I went and 
>>> saw it then. A few years later it was back on the market after somebody had 
>>> completely redone it. We went and looked at it and it was priced in mid to 
>>> upper 200s but the floor plan inside was completely different, it was just 
>>> like walking into a brand new cookie cutter house. They 

Re: [MBZ] OT dishwashers

[rogerhga--- via Mercedes]

Kaleb, 
Does your have a round heating element in the bottom? I think mine does and it 
seems to add extra heat to the water. If I open the door during washing, it 
steams like crazy, so it's really hot water washing the dishes. Maybe there's a 
fuse blown on the unit or something. Mine is just a 110 unit with a regular 
plug that plugs into a prewired outlet under the sink. Hate to see you spend a 
bunch of money when it still might be something simple. 
Best Wishes, 
Roger 
Roger Hale 
Dinnerware Classics, Inc. 
Monroe, Ga. 
770-267-0850 
www.dinnerwareclassics.com 


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Re: [MBZ] 124 visor clip

[Dwight Giles via Mercedes]

Ok thanks. Ecklers can get one but very spendy.

Dwight Giles Jr.
1982 300CD
1990 300D
Wickford RI
On Apr 3, 2016 10:45 PM, "Fred Moir via Mercedes" 
wrote:

> Dwight.
> I might have one, not sure of the color, will check and let you know.
> Fred
>
> Fred Moir.
> Lynn MA.
> Diesel preferred.
>
> 
> From: Mercedes  on behalf of Dwight Giles
> via Mercedes 
> Sent: 04 April 2016 01:55
> To: Mercedes Discussion List
> Cc: Dwight Giles
> Subject: [MBZ] 124 visor clip
>
> Does,anyone have a,spare visor clip for a 90 300D 2.5t? I prefer blue but
> could  live with black.
> Thanks
>
> Dwight Giles Jr.
> 1982 300CD
> 1990 300D
> Wickford RI
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Re: [MBZ] OT dishwashers now old houses

[Rich Thomas via Mercedes]

That would have been a very cool house.

I restored/renovated an old Victorian (1884), was not a "high" Victorian 
but still had some style.  My neighbor around the corner still lives in 
an 1850s Victorian that was pretty much all original inside except for a 
1950s kitchen redo and a new bathroom she put in but the old original 
bathroom is still there as is all the woodwork, plaster, etc.  It had 
some minimal electrical installed probably in the 20s, she had a few new 
circuits run but that is all mostly "original" too.   It is an amazing 
gorgeous house.  The town was full of them as the first "commuter" 
railroad was built up to the town from Boston in the 1850s so wealthy 
people bought lots there and built houses starting about that time 
period.  If you drive around the town you can see the original farm 
houses from the 1600-1700s which had maybe 10 acres or so, then the 
subsequent houses of different eras where the land was subdivided over 
the next 300-400 years.


Right after I finished school and got a real job, a buddy said we should 
go look at this row house in Charlestown MA (across the river from 
Boston) that was up near the top of Bunker Hill.  The first floor had 
been carved up into 3 or 4 little rathole apartments but the 2nd and 3rd 
floors were still pretty much original though they each had a kitchen 
and bathroom installed at some point to make them separate apartments.  
Guy wanted $70k for it, which was a fair chunk of change but running the 
numbers it made some sense.   The scheme was to keep the 1st floor apts 
for some rental income while we redid the 2nd and 3rd floors into condos 
we each would then have, live in one while redoing the other, then 
moving into the new one, then redo the first floor and sell it as a 
condo.  Problem was there was no parking except on the street and it was 
a bit rough area with all the Townies being ignernt so I passed.  Fast 
forward to present day, This Old House has redone buildings in that 
area, and condos as we were going to do are going for $1M+.  Sigh...


--R

On 4/4/16 5:28 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

Not long after we were married, we had the opportunity to buy an Andrew 
Carnegie library built in the 1930s in the neighborhood where the wife grew up. 
 Beautiful place, brick exterior with columns, huge interior, etc.  Here is a 
link to a Street view of it on the right:

https://www.google.com/maps/@39.4816306,-86.0526114,3a,75y,270h,90t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s304l4nek7OJ4GpnO5H0Gbw!2e0!7i3328!8i1664!6m1!1e1

City wanted to sell it and couldn’t find a buyer for over two years.  The price 
in 1980 dollars was $40,000.  It was in great physical shape and was a huge 
space inside, with the main floor being pretty much one giant open room and the 
lower level being separate rooms with a big kitchen in one of them.

Wife wouldn’t go for it.  A few months later the city sold it to a developer 
who made $150k condos out of it.

Dan



On Apr 4, 2016, at 12:15 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
 wrote:

Boy I would sure love to hear some Wilton stories about restoring mansions. I 
have always wanted to do that. In fact many years ago we had the chance to buy 
an old mansion like house that belonged to a local dr. Was an early 1900s was 
not Victorian, but it slips the mind what style they called it. Colonial maybe. 
We could have picked it up for something like 60k, had the loan all lined out 
etc but for whatever reason we didn't do it. It's main issues were pluming to 
the upstairs bathroom.
Several years before that there was and old Victorian that was for sale for a 
long time that belonged to a school teacher that died. At the time is was 
pretty much original, had all original hardwood floors all thru the house, 
original interior walls, bathrooms and such. I think it got down to like $85k 
and was finally sold. This was in the late 90s when I knew nothing about buying 
real estate. Whoever bought it completely gutted the interior. I mean 
completely gutted, all interior walls torn out, everything. It went back on the 
market I think they got foreclosed on or something. I went and saw it then. A 
few years later it was back on the market after somebody had completely redone 
it. We went and looked at it and it was priced in mid to upper 200s but the 
floor plan inside was completely different, it was just like walking into a 
brand new cookie cutter house. They totally ruined the charm of the house, it 
was very very sad.

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On Apr 3, 2016, at 10:53 PM, WILTON via Mercedes  wrote:

While I was restoring the two 1875 mansions 30 years ago, I found that everybody who 
"came along" wanting a job swore that he was the best painter anywhere.  Almost 
all of 'em were FOS, to put it bluntly.

Wilton

- Original Message - From: "Scott Ritchey via Mercedes" 

To: "'Mitch Haley'" ; "'Mercedes Discussion List'" 

Re: [MBZ] Best way to test fan clutch

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Some of them are getting scarce and expensive.  The W140 clutch can be found 
amor Behr (OEM) for around $100.

Dan


> On Apr 3, 2016, at 11:00 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> How much does a new one cost?  I never replaced a 123 fan clutch since my
> first one in  1986..  OTOH, the 108 and 109 sedans and 111 coupe all needed
> a new fan clutch.
> 
> On Sun, Apr 3, 2016 at 10:39 AM, Max Dillon via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> That reminds me, if you can move the blade tip fore / aft more than half
>> an inch, the bearing is bad and a new clutch is required.
>> --
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>> Charleston SC
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Re: [MBZ] OT dishwashers

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Not long after we were married, we had the opportunity to buy an Andrew 
Carnegie library built in the 1930s in the neighborhood where the wife grew up. 
 Beautiful place, brick exterior with columns, huge interior, etc.  Here is a 
link to a Street view of it on the right:

https://www.google.com/maps/@39.4816306,-86.0526114,3a,75y,270h,90t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s304l4nek7OJ4GpnO5H0Gbw!2e0!7i3328!8i1664!6m1!1e1

City wanted to sell it and couldn’t find a buyer for over two years.  The price 
in 1980 dollars was $40,000.  It was in great physical shape and was a huge 
space inside, with the main floor being pretty much one giant open room and the 
lower level being separate rooms with a big kitchen in one of them.

Wife wouldn’t go for it.  A few months later the city sold it to a developer 
who made $150k condos out of it.

Dan


> On Apr 4, 2016, at 12:15 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Boy I would sure love to hear some Wilton stories about restoring mansions. I 
> have always wanted to do that. In fact many years ago we had the chance to 
> buy an old mansion like house that belonged to a local dr. Was an early 1900s 
> was not Victorian, but it slips the mind what style they called it. Colonial 
> maybe. We could have picked it up for something like 60k, had the loan all 
> lined out etc but for whatever reason we didn't do it. It's main issues were 
> pluming to the upstairs bathroom. 
> Several years before that there was and old Victorian that was for sale for a 
> long time that belonged to a school teacher that died. At the time is was 
> pretty much original, had all original hardwood floors all thru the house, 
> original interior walls, bathrooms and such. I think it got down to like $85k 
> and was finally sold. This was in the late 90s when I knew nothing about 
> buying real estate. Whoever bought it completely gutted the interior. I mean 
> completely gutted, all interior walls torn out, everything. It went back on 
> the market I think they got foreclosed on or something. I went and saw it 
> then. A few years later it was back on the market after somebody had 
> completely redone it. We went and looked at it and it was priced in mid to 
> upper 200s but the floor plan inside was completely different, it was just 
> like walking into a brand new cookie cutter house. They totally ruined the 
> charm of the house, it was very very sad. 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Apr 3, 2016, at 10:53 PM, WILTON via Mercedes  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> While I was restoring the two 1875 mansions 30 years ago, I found that 
>> everybody who "came along" wanting a job swore that he was the best painter 
>> anywhere.  Almost all of 'em were FOS, to put it bluntly.
>> 
>> Wilton
>> 
>> - Original Message - From: "Scott Ritchey via Mercedes" 
>> 
>> To: "'Mitch Haley'" ; "'Mercedes Discussion List'" 
>> 
>> Cc: "Scott Ritchey" 
>> Sent: Sunday, April 03, 2016 8:59 PM
>> Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT dishwashers
>> 
>> 
>>> We’ve had more problems with painters than any other trade.  One painter 
>>> told me (quite proudly, bragged actually) that he didn’t drink and he had a 
>>> drivers’ license.  I think he reckoned that put him at the top of the heap.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Mitch 
>>> Haley via Mercedes
>>> Sent: Sunday, April 03, 2016 12:30 PM
>>> To: Mercedes Discussion List 
>>> Cc: Mitch Haley 
>>> Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT dishwashers
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Re: Limitations: Painters aren't plasterers or even drywall finishers. Some 
>>> guys can use thought and reason to work outside their field of expertise, 
>>> your painter can't.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Mitch.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On April 3, 2016 at 11:24 AM WILTON via Mercedes >>  > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Painter I talked to for bid on repairs and painting can't seem to understand
>>> what I've been trying to tell ''im 'bout the repairs. He doesn't seem to
>>> realize that I know what the Hell I'm talking about.
>>> 
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