Re: [MBZ] OT: Mexicans

[Scott Ritchey via Mercedes]

The "pursuit of happiness" in the Declaration started out as "property" but
got changed during the staffing process, allegedly to avoid interpretation
as supporting slavery.

> -Original Message-
> From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of
> Max Dillon via Mercedes
> Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2016 5:10 PM
> To: Mercedes Discussion List 
> Cc: Max Dillon 
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Mexicans
> 
> Yes!  Individual ownership of property is one of the key factors that has
made
> America (the U. S. part) very wealthy compared to the rest of the world.
> 
> The foundation of all wealth is land; free citizens who can create as much
> wealth as they like with their land and the fruits of their labor will
make ANY
> country wealthy.
> 
> Taxes and regulations that infringe on that land and labor will decrease
> wealth.
> --
> Max Dillon
> Charleston SC
> '87 300TD
> '95 E300
> 
> On June 7, 2016 1:08:56 PM EDT, Mountain Man via Mercedes
>  wrote:
> >--R wrote:
> >> ...not that it really mattered whether it was his or theirs.
> >
> >Does it really matter for USAmericans?
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[MBZ] Project For Someone

[Rick Knoble via Mercedes]

Other than me.

https://chicago.craigslist.org/chc/cto/5609213819.html

Rick
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Re: [MBZ] Dash camera crash video

[WILTON via Mercedes]

Yep.  I was already driving cautiously and deliberately checking cross 
traffic at every intersection, but now I feel nervous, and tremor of right 
hand has increased significantly.  The tremor does not affect driving - just 
annoying.  Before the accident, I could lay my right hand 3 o'clock on the 
wheel and feel relaxed and comfortable.  It's harder now to make my right 
hand comfortable, relaxed and steady.


Wilton

- Original Message - 
From: "Peter Frederick via Mercedes" 

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Cc: "Peter Frederick" 
Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2016 9:40 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Dash camera crash video


I know what you mean Wilton -- I've been a bit twitchy since I got t- boned 
by a guy running a red light.  Takes me forever to cross  intersections and 
I'm always diving for the ditch when people wander  across the center line 
(at least six or seven times a day it seems).


I think I know how PTSD works now.

Peter


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Re: [MBZ] Secret Message for Rich

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

I thought it was black helicopters and black suburbans


Joel Cairo via Mercedes 
June 7, 2016 at 5:01 PMvia Postbox 


He is chasing a Black Bird

--JC




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Re: [MBZ] Don't these things usually sell for a lot more than this?

[G Mann via Mercedes]

Hahahaha.. I see you area graduate of the internship at the law firm of
Dewy, Cheatum, and Howe..

Good questions..  Your Honor.. could we now view this video recorded prior
to and during the crash, and could you mark it as exhibit #1 please?

And.. Objection, your Honor.. badgering the witness.. again.. : <)))


On Tue, Jun 7, 2016 at 6:04 PM, Joel Cairo via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Prejudicial to my client!  It shows facts!
>
> Mr. Mann is it not true that you braked heavily immediately before the
> impact with my injured client?
>
> Mr. Mann, is it not true that you are a known bipedalist and have been for
> most of your life?
>
> Mr. Mann, is it not true that you slandered my client through an email
> service known as "okiebenz" and that your slander has reached a worldwide
> audience of vindictive retributionists who are addicted to FOREIGN
> automobiles?  Do you yourself own FOREIGN automobiles?  GERMAN automobiles
> used prominently by NAZIS? Are you a NAZI Mr. Mann?  Please answer
> truthfully!
>
> --R
>
>
>
> On 6/7/16 8:50 PM, G Mann via Mercedes wrote:
>
>> Since this may end up in court.. better not to publish it on you tube..
>> I'm
>> advised.. at this point..
>>
>> On Tue, Jun 7, 2016 at 2:17 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>
>> Why not upload the video to YouTube, private not public, then send us the
>>> link?  Are there privacy or legal concerns?
>>> --
>>> Max Dillon
>>> Charleston SC
>>> '87 300TD
>>> '95 E300
>>>
>>> On June 7, 2016 10:44:46 AM EDT, G Mann via Mercedes <
>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>>
 Yes Ed,
 In all the years as a member on this site, I've never posted a thread,
 only
 responded, because I have never been able to find a "post here" link
 from
 the Home Page, if that's the right name for it.

 I always just wrote it off as my own lack of "geekness" .. but now it
 seems
 there is perhaps some structural issue that keeps it from allowing
 access?

 Above my pay grade in any case..

 About a month ago.. I bought and installed one of the Black Box dash
 cameras we spoke about in a thread.. 4 days ago, while driving the
 speed
 limit down a straight stretch of highway.. I got hit in the rear with
 enough force to drive the car 1000 ft forward, across oncoming traffic,
 into a block wall all now on video, because the camera was on when
 ever
 the car was running.. Thought I would post a link of the crash, as it
 happened, with sound from the built in mic in the camera, just so
 members
 could see it..

 The car that hit mine was totaled, mine can be repaired, maybe. The
 lawyers
 and doctors are ecstatic at having it all on video. The police are very
 convinced of my version of the event after viewing the video.
 I think the camera just paid for it's self.

 No joy on being able to post a thread.. Ohhh well. It will keep for
 now.

 On Tue, Jun 7, 2016 at 4:42 AM, Ed Booher via Mercedes <
 mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

 Also, the site https://www.okiebenz.com/ routes to an error page.
>
 Maybe

> the
> site doesn't have a proper certificate? The hosting company just
>
 gives the

> generic "Contact the webmaster" page.
>
> On Mon, Jun 6, 2016 at 3:09 PM, G Mann via Mercedes
>
  wrote:
>
> Thanks heaps for your response.. I'm "computer challenged" in PC
>>
> speak..

> so
>
>> all direction gladly accepted.
>>
>> The issue "seems to be" that the site address is http://.
>>
> www.oakiebenz.com
>
>> which Java will not accept because it is not "https" thus, in Java
>>
> wisdom

> not a secure site and verboten..
>>
>> Because Java will not allow the site to fully open, all the "click
>>
> here"

> boxes on the opening page remain empty, or non responsive.. thus,
>>
> I'm

> blocked from access to them.. what ever they are.. All I get is the
>>
> open

> page welcoming me to OakieBenz with a nice picture of a Merc..
>>
>> Stumped and Stupid... seems to about cover it.. ;))
>>
>> <
>>
>>
>>> https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email_source=link_campaign=sig-email_content=webmail_term=icon
>>>
 Virus-free.
>> www.avast.com
>> <
>>
>>
>>> https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email_source=link_campaign=sig-email_content=webmail_term=link
>>>
 <#DDB4FAA8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2>
>>
>> On Mon, Jun 6, 2016 at 4:23 AM, Ed Booher via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>
>> Making the assumption of Windows here. Java has a "Control
>>>
>> Panel." If

> you
>
>> hit the "Windows Key" or click the Start menu then type Java, one
>>>
>> of

Re: [MBZ] Dash camera crash video

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

The force of the impact on the other car was probably the same as a 35 
to 45 mph crash into a parked blazer. Assuming you were going 45,(as 
stated)   then  I call the villain at driving somewhere between 75 and 
90 MPH.  I truly beliece it was 90+ or - 5 MPH.


Did the airbags in the kia go off?

Wishing you a full recovery and a big win in court.

BTW, I thought it looked like you were driving a pickup. (windshield 
forward in a blazer is the same as a pickup)



G Mann via Mercedes 
June 7, 2016 at 3:28 PMvia Postbox 

Astute call Andrew, on the airbags.. which did not deploy.. the impact 
with

the wall was principally by the fender, outer front bumper end, which
sheared off, without triggering the air bags.. and the left front wheel..

By somehow avoiding head on impact with the corner of the block wall.. I
was spared the double injury of forward impact.

The car has a star.. in the tool kit in the back.. haha.. it's my Chevy
Blazer "run around town car" 4x4, 4 door.. pickup with permanent hard 
shell

over the bed. It has a full frame under it.. which absorbed a massive
amount of the impact.. the other car was a 10 yr old Kia Spectra.. and 
it's
crushed back to the A pillar.. bent the roof.. windshield , etc.. 
certainly

totaled..


Virus-free

<#DDB4FAA8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2>

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Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
June 7, 2016 at 3:20 PMvia Postbox 


That's is some scary sh*t. I assume you were driving a pre-airbag car -
where's the tristar? I can only posit the cause as self-distracted driving
- there's NOTHING on the road that could have been regarded as a danger or
distraction. Throw the book at her/him.

On Tue, Jun 7, 2016 at 4:03 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
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Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
June 7, 2016 at 3:03 PMvia Postbox 

This reminds me of a random quote "You're a g-man right? 'Whats that?' 
I quipped. A G-man, girls, guns, guts. Your wrong baby, I slapped her 
hard. I'm strictly an l-man, liquor, loves and laughs."

Can anybody guess that one without looking it up?
-Curt

From: archer75--- via Mercedes 
To: Mercedes Discussion List 
Cc: "arche...@embarqmail.com" 
Sent: Tuesday, June 7, 2016 3:51 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Dash camera crash video

Glad you survived, G.Mann, and hope your injuries are not too serious.
Gerry



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archer75--- via Mercedes 
June 7, 2016 at 2:51 PMvia Postbox 


Glad you survived, G.Mann, and hope your injuries are not too serious.
Gerry



G Mann via Mercedes 
June 7, 2016 at 12:18 PMvia Postbox 


OK.. thanks to everyone. Let's try this and see if it works.

Video from Black Box dash camera from 5 days ago when I got hit in the 
rear

while driving at the speed limit. Car that hit me is certainly a total..
entire front crush area "crushed" .. my car may be repairable, the process
has only started.. but it and I are hurt... I left the scene in an
ambulance, the car on a flatbed.

The camera only gives a "forward view" of the crash.. I had made the
decision to purchase a second camera for the rear.. just had not ordered
it.. best plans of mice and men. I would love to have had a rear view 
video

of the crash.. I suspect driver was on a cell phone or distracted..

On impact the car was driven 800+ feet, across oncoming traffic into a
block wall.. First 45 seconds of the video cover all that 

Re: [MBZ] FP-K22MW21 pump kit

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

Yeah.

That piston 111one is interesting if it is new.  It does not say, and 
there is no way to contact the seller.  I am not paying that much for a 
used one.


The isuzu truck ones are probably how I would go, or more likely, I'd 
put on an electric pump.



Rick Knoble via Mercedes 
June 7, 2016 at 2:35 PMvia Postbox 


Not much turns up in a search.
‎
‎http://www.vendio.com/stores/piston111/item/car-truck-parts-other/mercedes-diesel-lift-pump-bosc/lid=10835629

‎https://www.bildelsbasen.se/se-sv/OEM/2445103010/

‎https://www.bildelsbasen.se/se-sv/Mercedes/MB-200_300-(W123)/1976_1986/Bränsle/Förpump-Diesel/Alla/ID-29974805/OEM-2445103010/
‎
Rick
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From: Curley McLain via Mercedes
Sent: Monday, June 6, 2016 10:51 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Reply To: Mercedes Discussion List
Cc: Curley McLain
Subject: [MBZ] FP-K22MW21 pump kit

THe OM616/617NA transfer pump (lift pump) is Bosch FP-K22MW2 or ten
digit 2 445 103 010. MB never did provide a kit in the USA, and I don't
now if Bosch ever did. I am thinking in the RTW, that a kit may be
available. has anyone ever seen a kit or have foreign contacts to
inquire about a kit for the pump?

Nothing turns up on fleabay except a pump body. That is the one part I
don't need.

The good news is that I took the 240D out tonight for a 2 mile run, and
now it runs fine. The apparent warning I had, but was unable to
attribute to any cause, is that at idle, especially when cold, the
engine would randomly miss at idle. The pump seemed to function
adequately at higher RPM, as on last thursday I ran it probably 60 miles
or so at highway speeds. It is the opposite of a obstructed filter, or
air leak which show up first at high speed or starting.

I was able to pump up fuel easily with the hand primer. It filled the
hose to the filter and I bled the air out there, then tightened the new
banjo fitting. I have been hoarding new clear fuel lines since 1999. I
put the one from the transfer pump to the filter on with the used pump.
Unfortunately the hand primer leaks when used. THe original was ok I
think. I may change that some day.

Has anyone seen exploded drawings of the pump or parts drawings? I'd
still like to figure out how they are made to see if I can repair the
old ones.

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Re: [MBZ] OT: I'm back!

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

The fabric buildings are becoming very popular.  Thye are popping up all 
over the country.  For a garage, shop, storage etc, they are great.  
People build concrete or T treated lumber walls, then put the building 
on top.  They are warmer in the winter, lighter inside to work in the 
daytime, and often cooler in the summer than alternatives.  They can be 
made rodent proof and bug proof.  Many are being used for grain storage.



Craig via Mercedes 
June 7, 2016 at 1:49 PMvia Postbox 


On Mon, 6 Jun 2016 17:06:06 + (UTC) Curt Raymond via Mercedes
  wrote:


15 year warranty... Doesn't mention how much snow load its rated for.
I'm thinking more like: http://www.americansteelspan.com/garagekits.html
-Curt


I think those are better long term; the Farmtek buildings are "quick and
dirty."


Craig



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Cc: Craig
  Sent: Monday, June 6, 2016 12:02 PM
  Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: I'm back!

On Sun, 05 Jun 2016 21:00:26 -0500 Curley McLain via Mercedes
  wrote:


Farmtek.com

As in
http://www.farmtek.com/farm/supplies/cat1a;ft_fabric_buildings.html

 and

http://www.farmtek.com/farm/supplies/cat1;ft_fabric_buildings;ft_garages_vehicle_storage.html


Craig



Curt Raymond via Mercedes

Should mostly pay for the tractor mentioned above but we'll need
another building to put it in. Looking at maybe a quonset hut in
the size of a 2 car garage...
-Curt

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Craig

--
Present: '82 240D/3.0   Bluebell   285 kmi (Still need to fix leaking
 oil pressure gauge and do
 something about the failed
 hood paint and attend to the
headlight switch -- and now I
 need to do something about the
 broken left rear trailing arm)
  '89 Chevrolet G20 Beauville Van (affectionately dubbed the BRV,
  the Big Red Van)

Past:'95 E320   Sebastian  135 kmi   RIP
  '94 E420   Oskar  127 kmi   RIP
  '86 190E/2.3
  '72 220/8
  '64 190Dc  Emma
  '72 220D/8 Herman 186 kmi

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Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
June 6, 2016 at 12:06 PMvia Postbox 


15 year warranty... Doesn't mention how much snow load its rated for.
I'm thinking more like: http://www.americansteelspan.com/garagekits.html
-Curt

   From: Craig via Mercedes
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Cc: Craig
  Sent: Monday, June 6, 2016 12:02 PM
  Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: I'm back!

On Sun, 05 Jun 2016 21:00:26 -0500 Curley McLain via Mercedes
  wrote:


Farmtek.com


As in http://www.farmtek.com/farm/supplies/cat1a;ft_fabric_buildings.html

 and

http://www.farmtek.com/farm/supplies/cat1;ft_fabric_buildings;ft_garages_vehicle_storage.html


Craig



Curt Raymond via Mercedes

Should mostly pay for the tractor mentioned above but we'll need
another building to put it in. Looking at maybe a quonset hut in the
size of a 2 car garage...
-Curt


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Craig via Mercedes 
June 6, 2016 at 11:02 AMvia Postbox 

Re: [MBZ] Snook Needs Help!

[Peter Frederick via Mercedes]

Is that an expansion valve or an orifice tube/accumulator system?  If  
it's an orifice tube (a common system these days, cycles the clutch by  
low side pressure) you will need to flush the whole system out if the  
screen is plugged, replace the trashed compressor (where all the crap  
came from) and put a filter in the high side line so it won't clog up  
again.


Probably need a filter in the low side line as well since it's  
impossible to flush all the crud out of a multi-tube type evaporator  
-- no filter, you trash a new compressor right away and end up where  
you started.


This is why my Volvo didn't have AC, too hard to find a compressor for  
it.


Peter

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Re: [MBZ] Dash camera crash video

[Peter Frederick via Mercedes]

I know what you mean Wilton -- I've been a bit twitchy since I got t- 
boned by a guy running a red light.  Takes me forever to cross  
intersections and I'm always diving for the ditch when people wander  
across the center line (at least six or seven times a day it seems).


I think I know how PTSD works now.

Peter


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Re: [MBZ] Don't these things usually sell for a lot more than this?

[Joel Cairo via Mercedes]

Prejudicial to my client!  It shows facts!

Mr. Mann is it not true that you braked heavily immediately before the 
impact with my injured client?


Mr. Mann, is it not true that you are a known bipedalist and have been 
for most of your life?


Mr. Mann, is it not true that you slandered my client through an email 
service known as "okiebenz" and that your slander has reached a 
worldwide audience of vindictive retributionists who are addicted to 
FOREIGN automobiles?  Do you yourself own FOREIGN automobiles?  GERMAN 
automobiles used prominently by NAZIS? Are you a NAZI Mr. Mann?  Please 
answer truthfully!


--R


On 6/7/16 8:50 PM, G Mann via Mercedes wrote:

Since this may end up in court.. better not to publish it on you tube.. I'm
advised.. at this point..

On Tue, Jun 7, 2016 at 2:17 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:


Why not upload the video to YouTube, private not public, then send us the
link?  Are there privacy or legal concerns?
--
Max Dillon
Charleston SC
'87 300TD
'95 E300

On June 7, 2016 10:44:46 AM EDT, G Mann via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

Yes Ed,
In all the years as a member on this site, I've never posted a thread,
only
responded, because I have never been able to find a "post here" link
from
the Home Page, if that's the right name for it.

I always just wrote it off as my own lack of "geekness" .. but now it
seems
there is perhaps some structural issue that keeps it from allowing
access?

Above my pay grade in any case..

About a month ago.. I bought and installed one of the Black Box dash
cameras we spoke about in a thread.. 4 days ago, while driving the
speed
limit down a straight stretch of highway.. I got hit in the rear with
enough force to drive the car 1000 ft forward, across oncoming traffic,
into a block wall all now on video, because the camera was on when
ever
the car was running.. Thought I would post a link of the crash, as it
happened, with sound from the built in mic in the camera, just so
members
could see it..

The car that hit mine was totaled, mine can be repaired, maybe. The
lawyers
and doctors are ecstatic at having it all on video. The police are very
convinced of my version of the event after viewing the video.
I think the camera just paid for it's self.

No joy on being able to post a thread.. Ohhh well. It will keep for
now.

On Tue, Jun 7, 2016 at 4:42 AM, Ed Booher via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:


Also, the site https://www.okiebenz.com/ routes to an error page.

Maybe

the
site doesn't have a proper certificate? The hosting company just

gives the

generic "Contact the webmaster" page.

On Mon, Jun 6, 2016 at 3:09 PM, G Mann via Mercedes



On Mon, Jun 6, 2016 at 4:23 AM, Ed Booher via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:


Making the assumption of Windows here. Java has a "Control

Panel." If

you

hit the "Windows Key" or click the Start menu then type Java, one

of

the

options should be "Configure Java." Once you have that control

panel

open,

under the Security tab there is an Exception Site List. Sometimes

adding

the site to this list will help. If the site is secure (HTTPS /

SSL)

then

you will need to open the site, and download a copy of the sites

public

certificate. Below the Exception Site List there is a "Manage

Certificates"

button. Click this button, set the drop down to "Secure Site" and

Import

the site certificate.

Realistically a site that is just using Java menus should not

have this

problem. What is the actual URL for posting a new thread from the

website?

I've not seen it before. However, I know I have to go through

this with

all

my Cisco gear to run the Java built ASDM software. The software

refuses

to

run if I haven't added the certificate from the ASA to the

control

panel.

Didn't use to be this way, but every new revision of Java gets

tighter

security B.S. because of all the backdoor software running

rampant on

the

Net.

On Sun, Jun 5, 2016 at 2:05 PM, G Mann via Mercedes <

mercedes@okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] Don't these things usually sell for a lot more than this?

[G Mann via Mercedes]

Since this may end up in court.. better not to publish it on you tube.. I'm
advised.. at this point..

On Tue, Jun 7, 2016 at 2:17 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Why not upload the video to YouTube, private not public, then send us the
> link?  Are there privacy or legal concerns?
> --
> Max Dillon
> Charleston SC
> '87 300TD
> '95 E300
>
> On June 7, 2016 10:44:46 AM EDT, G Mann via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >Yes Ed,
> >In all the years as a member on this site, I've never posted a thread,
> >only
> >responded, because I have never been able to find a "post here" link
> >from
> >the Home Page, if that's the right name for it.
> >
> >I always just wrote it off as my own lack of "geekness" .. but now it
> >seems
> >there is perhaps some structural issue that keeps it from allowing
> >access?
> >
> >Above my pay grade in any case..
> >
> >About a month ago.. I bought and installed one of the Black Box dash
> >cameras we spoke about in a thread.. 4 days ago, while driving the
> >speed
> >limit down a straight stretch of highway.. I got hit in the rear with
> >enough force to drive the car 1000 ft forward, across oncoming traffic,
> >into a block wall all now on video, because the camera was on when
> >ever
> >the car was running.. Thought I would post a link of the crash, as it
> >happened, with sound from the built in mic in the camera, just so
> >members
> >could see it..
> >
> >The car that hit mine was totaled, mine can be repaired, maybe. The
> >lawyers
> >and doctors are ecstatic at having it all on video. The police are very
> >convinced of my version of the event after viewing the video.
> >I think the camera just paid for it's self.
> >
> >No joy on being able to post a thread.. Ohhh well. It will keep for
> >now.
> >
> >On Tue, Jun 7, 2016 at 4:42 AM, Ed Booher via Mercedes <
> >mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Also, the site https://www.okiebenz.com/ routes to an error page.
> >Maybe
> >> the
> >> site doesn't have a proper certificate? The hosting company just
> >gives the
> >> generic "Contact the webmaster" page.
> >>
> >> On Mon, Jun 6, 2016 at 3:09 PM, G Mann via Mercedes
> > >> >
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> > Thanks heaps for your response.. I'm "computer challenged" in PC
> >speak..
> >> so
> >> > all direction gladly accepted.
> >> >
> >> > The issue "seems to be" that the site address is http://.
> >> www.oakiebenz.com
> >> > which Java will not accept because it is not "https" thus, in Java
> >wisdom
> >> > not a secure site and verboten..
> >> >
> >> > Because Java will not allow the site to fully open, all the "click
> >here"
> >> > boxes on the opening page remain empty, or non responsive.. thus,
> >I'm
> >> > blocked from access to them.. what ever they are.. All I get is the
> >open
> >> > page welcoming me to OakieBenz with a nice picture of a Merc..
> >> >
> >> > Stumped and Stupid... seems to about cover it.. ;))
> >> >
> >> > <
> >> >
> >>
> >
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> >> > >
> >> > Virus-free.
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> >> > >
> >> > <#DDB4FAA8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2>
> >> >
> >> > On Mon, Jun 6, 2016 at 4:23 AM, Ed Booher via Mercedes <
> >> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > > Making the assumption of Windows here. Java has a "Control
> >Panel." If
> >> you
> >> > > hit the "Windows Key" or click the Start menu then type Java, one
> >of
> >> the
> >> > > options should be "Configure Java." Once you have that control
> >panel
> >> > open,
> >> > > under the Security tab there is an Exception Site List. Sometimes
> >> adding
> >> > > the site to this list will help. If the site is secure (HTTPS /
> >SSL)
> >> then
> >> > > you will need to open the site, and download a copy of the sites
> >public
> >> > > certificate. Below the Exception Site List there is a "Manage
> >> > Certificates"
> >> > > button. Click this button, set the drop down to "Secure Site" and
> >> Import
> >> > > the site certificate.
> >> > >
> >> > > Realistically a site that is just using Java menus should not
> >have this
> >> > > problem. What is the actual URL for posting a new thread from the
> >> > website?
> >> > > I've not seen it before. However, I know I have to go through
> >this with
> >> > all
> >> > > my Cisco gear to run the Java built ASDM software. The software
> >refuses
> >> > to
> >> > > run if I haven't added the certificate from the ASA to the
> >control
> >> panel.
> >> > > Didn't use to be this way, but every new revision of Java gets
> >tighter
> >> > > security B.S. because of all the backdoor software running
> >rampant on
> >> the
> >> > > Net.
> >> > >
> >> > > On Sun, Jun 5, 2016 at 2:05 PM, G Mann via Mercedes <
> >> > mercedes@okiebenz.com
> >> > > >
> >> > > wrote:
> >> > >

Re: [MBZ] Snook Needs Help!

[G Mann via Mercedes]

Compressor started to shuck it's self.. debris clogged the expansion
valve.. a known choke point on Ford systems.. or.. expansion valve simply
collapsed.. also known to happen..

If the expansion valve is clogged.. the coolant doesn't circulate, so the
compressor doesn't have anything to pump.. gauges sould show a high/low
split that isn't showing, If I read your posts correctly?

Lay your hand on the hoses with the compressor running.. should feel one of
them cooler.. not cooling.. it's not circulating.. Either way.. you have to
evacuate the system.. to open it and change out the expansion valve [which
has a screen built into it to capture debris.. if it's clean.. compressor
time.. or clutch time..

Clutch should be made to cycle with a 12 volt jumper wire, into the one
wire spade connector at back of clutch.. Apply 12 volts.. clutch should
lock up and turning compressor by hand will tell you if it's locked up..
[remove belt to do this].

HTH  [Hope this Helps]


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On Tue, Jun 7, 2016 at 1:38 PM, Donald Snook via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> I don't know if the compressor is doing anything.  I was expecting to see
> the pressure drop but it never did.  I don't have any actual set of gauges
> I was just using the one that was on the can.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Joel Cairo [mailto:buggeredbenzm...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2016 11:22 AM
> To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Snook Needs Help!
>
> Is the compressor compressing?  The line should be cold if it is.  If not,
> it is not compressing, maybe the clutch is not actually clutching the
> compressor shaft or something in that mechanism (or the compressor is
> shot)?  Do you have gauges (or the one on the can) to see if the pressures
> are changing when the clutch engages?  When I put in refrigerant and the
> clutch engages, the pressure drops by maybe half when the compressor is
> working.
>
> --R
>
> On 6/7/16 12:07 PM, Donald Snook via Mercedes wrote:
> > Ok, I didn’t want to clog up the digest with stuff about a ford, but I
> guess Dan has invited it.
> >
> > I have a 1992 Ford F150. It has 147,000 miles.   I have been trying to
> get the a/c working.   I was converted to 134 a while ago.  I noticed that
> the clutch was spinning.  So, I did some googling and found that I could
> jumper the Low Pressure switch and the compressor should come on even if it
> is low on Freon.  It didn’t.  I checked and there was no power to the
> Switch.   So, I figured I had a bad wire or short somewhere.  I decided to
> go ahead and try to fill it up anyway.  I put some in and I have 40-45
> pound of pressure (when it was almost 90 degrees outside).  The compressor
> wasn’t turning.  I checked the fuses and they looked ago.  I replace the
> fuse for the compressor anyway.  I got out the hammer and gave the
> compressor clutch a few whacks to see if I could get it turning.  It
> started moving and I tried another few whacks.  It started turning and was
> a little noisy. But, after a few minutes it smoothed out and was spinning
> without any noise.   But, no cold air.  I have lots of air flow. But, it
> was HOT.   So, a/c has pressure, compressor is turning, but no cold air.
>  I am wondering if I have:
> >
> > Some Air (rather than Freon) in the system?
> >
> > A bad compressor?
> >
> > A switch issue on the HVAC controls on the dash?
> >
> > Or the blend door problem?  I can switch the air flow from the vents to
> the floor and up to the defrost.  So, I think that means the blend door is
> okay.
> >
> > Any thoughts?
> >
> > Don Snook
> > Two BMW 7 series
> > 92 Ford F-150
> > 2006 Cadillac SRX (her car)
> >
> >
> >
> > From: Dan Penoff [mailto:d...@penoff.com]
> > Sent: Monday, June 06, 2016 5:22 PM
> > To: Mercedes List 
> > Cc: Donald Snook 
> > Subject: Snook Needs Help!
> >
> > Donald has questions about Ford truck AC systems.  I know there are some
> Frod truck people here….
> >
> > Donald, ask away!!
> >
> > Dan
> >
> >
> >
> > Begin forwarded message:
> >
> > From: Donald Snook >
> > Subject: RE: 300E 2.6
> > Date: June 6, 2016 at 5:39:54 PM EDT
> > To: Dan Penoff >
> >
> > My wife wouldn't go for it.  I thought it would be a great car for my
> stepdaughter.   Anyone in the group have some expertise with Ford Trucks?
> I didn't want to clog up the digests with Ford truck questions.  But, I
> have an A/c issue I am trying to figure out.
> >
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> 

Re: [MBZ] Tropical Storm Colin

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

All clear, all rubber tubes on passenger side attached to the sunroof
drains.  I've tried sealing off the sunroof with tape over all the seams
and had no water entry, so I thought maybe I did have a sunroof drain that
was clogging and I had opened it up without realizing that it was clogged.

Apparently if leaves / dirt / etc go down the windshield gutter drains on
either side of the windshield, they can get deposited between fender liner
and body, and act like a sponge to encourage water to seep between body
seams into the passenger compartment.  I'm going to make some time later
tonight to take a look.

-
Max
Charleston SC

On Tue, Jun 7, 2016 at 6:06 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Sunroof drain(s)?
>
> Rick
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Re: [MBZ] Tropical Storm Colin

[Rick Knoble via Mercedes]

Sunroof drain(s)?

Rick 
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Re: [MBZ] Secret Message for Rich

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

For fifteen years!?

-
Max
Charleston SC

On Tue, Jun 7, 2016 at 6:01 PM, Joel Cairo via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> He is chasing a Black Bird
>
> --JC
>
>
>
> On 6/7/16 5:35 PM, Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes wrote:
>
>> I haven't seen any posts from Rich for quite a while. Do we need to send
>> Sam
>> Spade out to look for him?
>>
>>
>>
>
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Re: [MBZ] Secret Message for Rich

[Rick Knoble via Mercedes]

Buggered Benz 
Juan Corona
Jose Castro
Or 
Whoever
IS
Rich.

Rick 
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Re: [MBZ] Secret Message for Rich

[Joel Cairo via Mercedes]

He is chasing a Black Bird

--JC


On 6/7/16 5:35 PM, Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes wrote:

I haven't seen any posts from Rich for quite a while. Do we need to send Sam
Spade out to look for him?

  


Greg

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Re: [MBZ] Dash camera crash video

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

Wow!  Glad you're not seriously injured or maimed or dead!  Thanks for sharing.

Older brother was driving a 80's Mazda 626 with his infant son strapped into a 
baby seat, and got hit pretty much exactly like you.  Wisconsin country road at 
night, the remains of the Mazda came to rest amidst a bunch of saplings, which 
held the doors closed trapping them inside.  Brother opened the sunroof and got 
both of them out (see Wilton, sometimes a sunroof is useful!) and started 
looking for the guy who hit him.  

My brother's "blood was up" from the collision entirely the fault of the other 
driver and then being trapped inside a car smelling gasoline, with his infant 
son.  Fortunately the search for the other party on a cold winter night took 
long enough for him to cool off, at least cool enough that he didn't try to 
hurt the other guy, who probably fell asleep and floored the accelerator until 
he crashed.
-- 
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Charleston SC
'87 300TD
'95 E300
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[MBZ] Secret Message for Rich

[Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes]

I haven't seen any posts from Rich for quite a while. Do we need to send Sam
Spade out to look for him?

 

Greg

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[MBZ] In case Randy wants to go...

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

http://www.mbca-hawaii.org/event/2016-kamehameha-day-parade/Hawaii 
Section will be providing convertibles for the Kam Day parade in Honolulu!


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Re: [MBZ] Don't these things usually sell for a lot more than this?

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

Why not upload the video to YouTube, private not public, then send us the link? 
 Are there privacy or legal concerns?
-- 
Max Dillon
Charleston SC
'87 300TD
'95 E300

On June 7, 2016 10:44:46 AM EDT, G Mann via Mercedes  
wrote:
>Yes Ed,
>In all the years as a member on this site, I've never posted a thread,
>only
>responded, because I have never been able to find a "post here" link
>from
>the Home Page, if that's the right name for it.
>
>I always just wrote it off as my own lack of "geekness" .. but now it
>seems
>there is perhaps some structural issue that keeps it from allowing
>access?
>
>Above my pay grade in any case..
>
>About a month ago.. I bought and installed one of the Black Box dash
>cameras we spoke about in a thread.. 4 days ago, while driving the
>speed
>limit down a straight stretch of highway.. I got hit in the rear with
>enough force to drive the car 1000 ft forward, across oncoming traffic,
>into a block wall all now on video, because the camera was on when
>ever
>the car was running.. Thought I would post a link of the crash, as it
>happened, with sound from the built in mic in the camera, just so
>members
>could see it..
>
>The car that hit mine was totaled, mine can be repaired, maybe. The
>lawyers
>and doctors are ecstatic at having it all on video. The police are very
>convinced of my version of the event after viewing the video.
>I think the camera just paid for it's self.
>
>No joy on being able to post a thread.. Ohhh well. It will keep for
>now.
>
>On Tue, Jun 7, 2016 at 4:42 AM, Ed Booher via Mercedes <
>mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
>> Also, the site https://www.okiebenz.com/ routes to an error page.
>Maybe
>> the
>> site doesn't have a proper certificate? The hosting company just
>gives the
>> generic "Contact the webmaster" page.
>>
>> On Mon, Jun 6, 2016 at 3:09 PM, G Mann via Mercedes
>> >
>> wrote:
>>
>> > Thanks heaps for your response.. I'm "computer challenged" in PC
>speak..
>> so
>> > all direction gladly accepted.
>> >
>> > The issue "seems to be" that the site address is http://.
>> www.oakiebenz.com
>> > which Java will not accept because it is not "https" thus, in Java
>wisdom
>> > not a secure site and verboten..
>> >
>> > Because Java will not allow the site to fully open, all the "click
>here"
>> > boxes on the opening page remain empty, or non responsive.. thus,
>I'm
>> > blocked from access to them.. what ever they are.. All I get is the
>open
>> > page welcoming me to OakieBenz with a nice picture of a Merc..
>> >
>> > Stumped and Stupid... seems to about cover it.. ;))
>> >
>> > <
>> >
>>
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>> > >
>> > Virus-free.
>> > www.avast.com
>> > <
>> >
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>> > >
>> > <#DDB4FAA8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2>
>> >
>> > On Mon, Jun 6, 2016 at 4:23 AM, Ed Booher via Mercedes <
>> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > > Making the assumption of Windows here. Java has a "Control
>Panel." If
>> you
>> > > hit the "Windows Key" or click the Start menu then type Java, one
>of
>> the
>> > > options should be "Configure Java." Once you have that control
>panel
>> > open,
>> > > under the Security tab there is an Exception Site List. Sometimes
>> adding
>> > > the site to this list will help. If the site is secure (HTTPS /
>SSL)
>> then
>> > > you will need to open the site, and download a copy of the sites
>public
>> > > certificate. Below the Exception Site List there is a "Manage
>> > Certificates"
>> > > button. Click this button, set the drop down to "Secure Site" and
>> Import
>> > > the site certificate.
>> > >
>> > > Realistically a site that is just using Java menus should not
>have this
>> > > problem. What is the actual URL for posting a new thread from the
>> > website?
>> > > I've not seen it before. However, I know I have to go through
>this with
>> > all
>> > > my Cisco gear to run the Java built ASDM software. The software
>refuses
>> > to
>> > > run if I haven't added the certificate from the ASA to the
>control
>> panel.
>> > > Didn't use to be this way, but every new revision of Java gets
>tighter
>> > > security B.S. because of all the backdoor software running
>rampant on
>> the
>> > > Net.
>> > >
>> > > On Sun, Jun 5, 2016 at 2:05 PM, G Mann via Mercedes <
>> > mercedes@okiebenz.com
>> > > >
>> > > wrote:
>> > >
>> > > > On another note.. I have never been able to post a new thread
>> directly
>> > > from
>> > > > the www.oakiebenz.com site... Finally discovered that Java
>security
>> > has
>> > > > the
>> > > > menu items that would allow that blocked.
>> > > >
>> > > > Anyone of the computer guru's here "splain" how I can
>reconfigure to
>> > > post ?
>> > > > I would be ever so grateful.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > --
>> > > "Das beste oder nichts." - *Gottlieb Daimler*
>> > > 

Re: [MBZ] OT: Mexicans

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

Yes!  Individual ownership of property is one of the key factors that has made 
America (the U. S. part) very wealthy compared to the rest of the world.

The foundation of all wealth is land; free citizens who can create as much 
wealth as they like with their land and the fruits of their labor will make ANY 
country wealthy.

Taxes and regulations that infringe on that land and labor will decrease wealth.
-- 
Max Dillon
Charleston SC
'87 300TD
'95 E300

On June 7, 2016 1:08:56 PM EDT, Mountain Man via Mercedes 
 wrote:
>--R wrote:
>> ...not that it really mattered whether it was his or theirs.
>
>Does it really matter for USAmericans?  

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Re: [MBZ] Tropical Storm Colin

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

:(  

The White Whale has water on the passenger floor board again  .

Next step will be pulling the fender liner and maybe the battery and battery 
tray.
-- 
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Charleston SC
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'95 E300
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Re: [MBZ] FP-K22MW21 Lift pump

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

That looks like chinee crap.  I would not even waste my time messing with that.
-- 
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'95 E300

On June 7, 2016 12:25:05 AM EDT, Curley McLain via Mercedes 
 wrote:
>Looks like an Isnoozu lift pump will fit on the IP and could be 
>adapted.  I'd need a couple of banjo fittings.  I should have the banjo
>
>fittings on unused engines.
>
>
>
>eBay item number:161658558971
>
>
>Maybe someone with access to an Isuzu could measure the mounting holes 
>and compare to an OM616 or 617 NA.  I don't  know if a 617 turbo has
>the 
>same mounting, but I'd guess it is still the same.
>
>
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Re: [MBZ] Snook Needs Help!

[Joel Cairo via Mercedes]

That one will show the pressure dropping when the clutch engages if it 
is actually making the compressor compress.  I think that is when it 
sucks the gas in too, at least mine does that.  Are you revving the 
engine at 2000 rpm or so?  AC on high, fan all the way up?  You want the 
compressor running always or most of the time, which it should do if it 
is hot and you have things turned all the way up, and it needs some rpms 
to get things compressing.  At least that is how my systems work(ed).


If it is not really compressing I wonder if something in the system is 
messed up, the valve (I forget what that is called, expansion valve?), 
in which case it could just be circulating refrigerant and no cooling 
going on.


--R


On 6/7/16 4:38 PM, Donald Snook via Mercedes wrote:

I don't know if the compressor is doing anything.  I was expecting to see the 
pressure drop but it never did.  I don't have any actual set of gauges I was 
just using the one that was on the can.

-Original Message-
From: Joel Cairo [mailto:buggeredbenzm...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2016 11:22 AM
To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Snook Needs Help!

Is the compressor compressing?  The line should be cold if it is.  If not, it 
is not compressing, maybe the clutch is not actually clutching the compressor 
shaft or something in that mechanism (or the compressor is shot)?  Do you have 
gauges (or the one on the can) to see if the pressures are changing when the 
clutch engages?  When I put in refrigerant and the clutch engages, the pressure 
drops by maybe half when the compressor is working.

--R

On 6/7/16 12:07 PM, Donald Snook via Mercedes wrote:

Ok, I didn’t want to clog up the digest with stuff about a ford, but I guess 
Dan has invited it.

I have a 1992 Ford F150. It has 147,000 miles.   I have been trying to get the 
a/c working.   I was converted to 134 a while ago.  I noticed that the clutch 
was spinning.  So, I did some googling and found that I could jumper the Low 
Pressure switch and the compressor should come on even if it is low on Freon.  
It didn’t.  I checked and there was no power to the Switch.   So, I figured I 
had a bad wire or short somewhere.  I decided to go ahead and try to fill it up 
anyway.  I put some in and I have 40-45 pound of pressure (when it was almost 
90 degrees outside).  The compressor wasn’t turning.  I checked the fuses and 
they looked ago.  I replace the fuse for the compressor anyway.  I got out the 
hammer and gave the compressor clutch a few whacks to see if I could get it 
turning.  It started moving and I tried another few whacks.  It started turning 
and was a little noisy. But, after a few minutes it smoothed out and was 
spinning without any noise.   But, no cold air.  I have lots of air flow. But, 
it was HOT.   So, a/c has pressure, compressor is turning, but no cold air.   I 
am wondering if I have:

Some Air (rather than Freon) in the system?

A bad compressor?

A switch issue on the HVAC controls on the dash?

Or the blend door problem?  I can switch the air flow from the vents to the 
floor and up to the defrost.  So, I think that means the blend door is okay.

Any thoughts?

Don Snook
Two BMW 7 series
92 Ford F-150
2006 Cadillac SRX (her car)



From: Dan Penoff [mailto:d...@penoff.com]
Sent: Monday, June 06, 2016 5:22 PM
To: Mercedes List 
Cc: Donald Snook 
Subject: Snook Needs Help!

Donald has questions about Ford truck AC systems.  I know there are some Frod 
truck people here….

Donald, ask away!!

Dan



Begin forwarded message:

From: Donald Snook >
Subject: RE: 300E 2.6
Date: June 6, 2016 at 5:39:54 PM EDT
To: Dan Penoff >

My wife wouldn't go for it.  I thought it would be a great car for my 
stepdaughter.   Anyone in the group have some expertise with Ford Trucks?  I 
didn't want to clog up the digests with Ford truck questions.  But, I have an 
A/c issue I am trying to figure out.

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Re: [MBZ] Snook Needs Help!

[Donald Snook via Mercedes]

I don't know if the compressor is doing anything.  I was expecting to see the 
pressure drop but it never did.  I don't have any actual set of gauges I was 
just using the one that was on the can.  

-Original Message-
From: Joel Cairo [mailto:buggeredbenzm...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2016 11:22 AM
To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Snook Needs Help!

Is the compressor compressing?  The line should be cold if it is.  If not, it 
is not compressing, maybe the clutch is not actually clutching the compressor 
shaft or something in that mechanism (or the compressor is shot)?  Do you have 
gauges (or the one on the can) to see if the pressures are changing when the 
clutch engages?  When I put in refrigerant and the clutch engages, the pressure 
drops by maybe half when the compressor is working.

--R

On 6/7/16 12:07 PM, Donald Snook via Mercedes wrote:
> Ok, I didn’t want to clog up the digest with stuff about a ford, but I guess 
> Dan has invited it.
>
> I have a 1992 Ford F150. It has 147,000 miles.   I have been trying to get 
> the a/c working.   I was converted to 134 a while ago.  I noticed that the 
> clutch was spinning.  So, I did some googling and found that I could jumper 
> the Low Pressure switch and the compressor should come on even if it is low 
> on Freon.  It didn’t.  I checked and there was no power to the Switch.   So, 
> I figured I had a bad wire or short somewhere.  I decided to go ahead and try 
> to fill it up anyway.  I put some in and I have 40-45 pound of pressure (when 
> it was almost 90 degrees outside).  The compressor wasn’t turning.  I checked 
> the fuses and they looked ago.  I replace the fuse for the compressor anyway. 
>  I got out the hammer and gave the compressor clutch a few whacks to see if I 
> could get it turning.  It started moving and I tried another few whacks.  It 
> started turning and was a little noisy. But, after a few minutes it smoothed 
> out and was spinning without any noise.   But, no cold air.  I have lots of 
> air flow. But, it was HOT.   So, a/c has pressure, compressor is turning, but 
> no cold air.   I am wondering if I have:
>
> Some Air (rather than Freon) in the system?
>
> A bad compressor?
>
> A switch issue on the HVAC controls on the dash?
>
> Or the blend door problem?  I can switch the air flow from the vents to the 
> floor and up to the defrost.  So, I think that means the blend door is okay.
>
> Any thoughts?
>
> Don Snook
> Two BMW 7 series
> 92 Ford F-150
> 2006 Cadillac SRX (her car)
>
>
>
> From: Dan Penoff [mailto:d...@penoff.com]
> Sent: Monday, June 06, 2016 5:22 PM
> To: Mercedes List 
> Cc: Donald Snook 
> Subject: Snook Needs Help!
>
> Donald has questions about Ford truck AC systems.  I know there are some Frod 
> truck people here….
>
> Donald, ask away!!
>
> Dan
>
>
>
> Begin forwarded message:
>
> From: Donald Snook >
> Subject: RE: 300E 2.6
> Date: June 6, 2016 at 5:39:54 PM EDT
> To: Dan Penoff >
>
> My wife wouldn't go for it.  I thought it would be a great car for my 
> stepdaughter.   Anyone in the group have some expertise with Ford Trucks?  I 
> didn't want to clog up the digests with Ford truck questions.  But, I have an 
> A/c issue I am trying to figure out.
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Re: [MBZ] Dash camera crash video

[Joel Cairo via Mercedes]

And that, gentlemen, is why you drive a medium-ass truck or a Benz.  A 
big-ass truck would be better, but that one worked OK.


--JC


On 6/7/16 4:28 PM, G Mann via Mercedes wrote:

Astute call Andrew, on the airbags.. which did not deploy.. the impact with
the wall was principally by the fender, outer front bumper end, which
sheared off, without triggering the air bags.. and the left front wheel..

By somehow avoiding head on impact with the corner of the block wall.. I
was spared the double injury of forward impact.

The car has a star.. in the tool kit in the back.. haha.. it's my Chevy
Blazer "run around town car" 4x4, 4 door.. pickup with permanent hard shell
over the bed. It has a full frame under it.. which absorbed a massive
amount of the impact.. the other car was a 10 yr old Kia Spectra.. and it's
crushed back to the A pillar.. bent the roof.. windshield , etc.. certainly
totaled..


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On Tue, Jun 7, 2016 at 1:20 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
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That's is some scary sh*t.  I assume you were driving a pre-airbag car -
where's the tristar?  I can only posit the cause as self-distracted driving
- there's NOTHING on the road that could have been regarded as a danger or
distraction.  Throw the book at her/him.

On Tue, Jun 7, 2016 at 4:03 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:


This reminds me of a random quote "You're a g-man right? 'Whats that?' I
quipped. A G-man, girls, guns, guts. Your wrong baby, I slapped her hard.
I'm strictly an l-man, liquor, loves and laughs."
Can anybody guess that one without looking it up?
-Curt

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Glad you survived, G.Mann, and hope your injuries are not too serious.
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Re: [MBZ] Dash camera crash video

[G Mann via Mercedes]

Thanks, I join you in that.. I'm grateful the timing happened to be what it
was for oncoming traffic.. It could have gone so much more badly, so
easily..

If you pause the video at about 3 seconds post impact, from the rear, the
trajectory of the car is clearly centered on the corner post of the block
wall.. which I remember registering would be solid concrete with rebar, and
trying to gain enough control to avoid head on impact.. that worked...
somehow..

All those years of flying crop dusters and flight training that always
taught "fly the airplane all the way to the end of the crash" apparently
paid off, in reflex and response. Can't say the car was ever truly "under
control" once it absorbed the other cars energy, however.




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> Glad you survived, G.Mann, and hope your injuries are not too serious.
> Gerry
> 
> G Mann wrote:
> > OK.. thanks to everyone. Let's try this and see if it works.
> > Video from Black Box dash camera from 5 days ago when I got hit in the
> rear
> > while driving at the speed limit. Car that hit me is certainly a total..
> > entire front crush area "crushed" .. my car may be repairable, the
> process
> > has only started.. but it and I are hurt... I left the scene in an
> > ambulance, the car on a flatbed.
> >
> > The camera only gives a "forward view" of the crash.. I had made the
> > decision to purchase a second camera for the rear.. just had not ordered
> > it.. best plans of mice and men. I would love to have had a rear view
> video
> > of the crash.. I suspect driver was on a cell phone or distracted..
> >
> > On impact the car was driven 800+ feet, across oncoming traffic into a
> > block wall.. First 45 seconds of the video cover all that happened.. it
> > runs 2min 16 sec, before I shut the camera off.
> >
> > I think the camera just paid for it's self.. Thought I would try to
> "share
> > the experience" .. Special thanks to Wilton.. since your crash event
> > triggered my decision to install the camera. Like you, it could have gone
> > so much worse, for example, if there had been oncoming traffic.. I missed
> > the next opposing car by about 12 seconds.. Likely it would have been
> fatal
> > for most, in that case.. with head on.
> >
> > ​
> >  20150010.MOV
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Re: [MBZ] Dash camera crash video

[G Mann via Mercedes]

Astute call Andrew, on the airbags.. which did not deploy.. the impact with
the wall was principally by the fender, outer front bumper end, which
sheared off, without triggering the air bags.. and the left front wheel..

By somehow avoiding head on impact with the corner of the block wall.. I
was spared the double injury of forward impact.

The car has a star.. in the tool kit in the back.. haha.. it's my Chevy
Blazer "run around town car" 4x4, 4 door.. pickup with permanent hard shell
over the bed. It has a full frame under it.. which absorbed a massive
amount of the impact.. the other car was a 10 yr old Kia Spectra.. and it's
crushed back to the A pillar.. bent the roof.. windshield , etc.. certainly
totaled..


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> That's is some scary sh*t.  I assume you were driving a pre-airbag car -
> where's the tristar?  I can only posit the cause as self-distracted driving
> - there's NOTHING on the road that could have been regarded as a danger or
> distraction.  Throw the book at her/him.
>
> On Tue, Jun 7, 2016 at 4:03 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> > This reminds me of a random quote "You're a g-man right? 'Whats that?' I
> > quipped. A G-man, girls, guns, guts. Your wrong baby, I slapped her hard.
> > I'm strictly an l-man, liquor, loves and laughs."
> > Can anybody guess that one without looking it up?
> > -Curt
> >
> >   From: archer75--- via Mercedes 
> >  To: Mercedes Discussion List 
> > Cc: "arche...@embarqmail.com" 
> >  Sent: Tuesday, June 7, 2016 3:51 PM
> >  Subject: Re: [MBZ] Dash camera crash video
> >
> > Glad you survived, G.Mann, and hope your injuries are not too serious.
> > Gerry
> > 
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Re: [MBZ] OT: I'm back!

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

I have an image in my mind of a thief cutting a little hole to get in and 
driving off and the whole structure gets hooked to the back of the tractor and 
gets dragged along behind. Pretty funny actually...
-Curt

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 Sent: Tuesday, June 7, 2016 4:20 PM
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On Tue, 7 Jun 2016 19:52:55 + (UTC) Curt Raymond via Mercedes
 wrote:

> They're also not terribly theft proof...

I had not thought of that. That's an important consideration.


Craig


>      From: Craig via Mercedes 
>  Sent: Tuesday, June 7, 2016 2:49 PM
>  Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: I'm back!
>    
> On Mon, 6 Jun 2016 17:06:06 + (UTC) Curt Raymond via Mercedes
>  wrote:
> 
> > 15 year warranty... Doesn't mention how much snow load its rated for.
> > I'm thinking more
> > like: http://www.americansteelspan.com/garagekits.html -Curt
> 
> I think those are better long term; the Farmtek buildings are "quick and
> dirty."
> 
> 
> Craig

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Re: [MBZ] OMG I have sooooooo been waiting for this!

[Joel Cairo via Mercedes]

There was a PGA golf thing down the road a coupla years ago, 3 or 4, and 
MB was a sponsor.  They had a load of Cs and Es and a few Ss all silver 
for running the playas and VIPs around.  They had them all parked at the 
airport before and after, I guess the motor pool for running them back 
and forth.  I saw a parade of them running down the road one day, 30 or 
so in a pack.  They had a big tent set up at the venue, a few cars and 
some displays on stuff. No clothing, though it probably would have been 
a big hit over there among all the swells.


There was free parking at the remote lot for Benzes, I drove the old TD 
over which I thought fit in quite well.


--JC


On 6/7/16 3:47 PM, Craig via Mercedes wrote:

On Tue, 7 Jun 2016 14:02:03 -0400 Joel Cairo via Mercedes
 wrote:


http://www.amlu.com/2016/06/07/mercedes-benz-teams-up-with-hugo-boss-for-2016-golf-collection/


And this demonstrates very clearly just how much MBNA is out of touch.

Good grief!


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Dash camera crash video

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

That's is some scary sh*t.  I assume you were driving a pre-airbag car -
where's the tristar?  I can only posit the cause as self-distracted driving
- there's NOTHING on the road that could have been regarded as a danger or
distraction.  Throw the book at her/him.

On Tue, Jun 7, 2016 at 4:03 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> This reminds me of a random quote "You're a g-man right? 'Whats that?' I
> quipped. A G-man, girls, guns, guts. Your wrong baby, I slapped her hard.
> I'm strictly an l-man, liquor, loves and laughs."
> Can anybody guess that one without looking it up?
> -Curt
>
>   From: archer75--- via Mercedes 
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> Cc: "arche...@embarqmail.com" 
>  Sent: Tuesday, June 7, 2016 3:51 PM
>  Subject: Re: [MBZ] Dash camera crash video
>
> Glad you survived, G.Mann, and hope your injuries are not too serious.
> Gerry
> 
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Re: [MBZ] OT: I'm back!

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Tue, 7 Jun 2016 19:52:55 + (UTC) Curt Raymond via Mercedes
 wrote:

> They're also not terribly theft proof...

I had not thought of that. That's an important consideration.


Craig


>   From: Craig via Mercedes 
>  Sent: Tuesday, June 7, 2016 2:49 PM
>  Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: I'm back!
>
> On Mon, 6 Jun 2016 17:06:06 + (UTC) Curt Raymond via Mercedes
>  wrote:
> 
> > 15 year warranty... Doesn't mention how much snow load its rated for.
> > I'm thinking more
> > like: http://www.americansteelspan.com/garagekits.html -Curt
> 
> I think those are better long term; the Farmtek buildings are "quick and
> dirty."
> 
> 
> Craig

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Re: [MBZ] I want one

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Local what type of ballpark?  MLB? AAA?  Futbol?

On Tue, Jun 7, 2016 at 3:05 PM, clay via Mercedes 
wrote:

> Local ball park has a wagyu beef burger for $15.  They turn it into a
> kingsford briquet on garlic toast
>
> clay
>
> On Jun 4, 2016, at 10:58 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:
>
> > My point exactly.  It's like buying Kobe beef ground into hamburger for
> > $50/lb and making sloppy joes.
> >
> > On Sat, Jun 4, 2016 at 1:35 PM, Karl Wittnebel 
> > wrote:
> >
> >> I guess that is sort of the point; this gwagen is not a luxury car.
> >> On Jun 4, 2016 10:29 AM, "Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes" <
> >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> You haven't been paying attention.  I am a jalopinist at heart but have
> >>> made it abundantly clear draw the line at crank windows, particularly
> in a
> >>> luxury car..
> >>>
> >>> On Sat, Jun 4, 2016 at 9:26 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <
> >>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>>
>  That surprises me as cheap as you are I figured you would love crank
>  Windows.
> 
>  Sent from my iPhone
> 
> > On Jun 3, 2016, at 11:30 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
>  mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > To channel my inner Trump - crank windows are DISGUSTING and STUPID.
> >
> > On Fri, Jun 3, 2016 at 7:39 PM, Joel Cairo via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> >>
> >>
> 
> >>>
> http://truckyeah.jalopnik.com/the-mercedes-g-wagen-is-back-to-crank-windows-and-cloth-1780135509
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Re: [MBZ] Don't these things usually sell for a lot more than this?

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On Tue, 7 Jun 2016 15:59:22 + (UTC) Curt Raymond via Mercedes
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> Post a thread? This is an email list, just send a new email to
> mercedes@okiebenz.com... -Curt

That's exactly what I do, and what I have been encouraging some others to
do.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Dash camera crash video

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

This reminds me of a random quote "You're a g-man right? 'Whats that?' I 
quipped. A G-man, girls, guns, guts. Your wrong baby, I slapped her hard. I'm 
strictly an l-man, liquor, loves and laughs."
Can anybody guess that one without looking it up?
-Curt

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Glad you survived, G.Mann, and hope your injuries are not too serious.
Gerry


   
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Re: [MBZ] Don't these things usually sell for a lot more than this?

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Tue, 7 Jun 2016 07:42:39 -0400 Ed Booher via Mercedes
 wrote:

> Also, the site https://www.okiebenz.com/ routes to an error page. Maybe
> the site doesn't have a proper certificate?

It indeed has an improper certificate.

SeaMonkey, my browser, shows:

www.okiebenz.com uses an invalid security certificate.

The certificate is only valid for the following names:
  ssd.serversecureplusplusartu.net ,
www.ssd.serversecureplusplusartu.net  

(Error code: ssl_error_bad_cert_domain)


> The hosting company just gives the generic "Contact the webmaster" page.

Once I allow a security exception, the page that's displayed shows,

=

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If you are the owner of this website, please contact your hosting
provider: webmas...@okiebenz.com

It is possible you have reached this page because:

The IP address has changed.
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Re: [MBZ] Was this originally silver?

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

I like that its listed at $3k with $2k written on the windshield. Bet he'd take 
$1500.
-Curt

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On Tue, 7 Jun 2016 14:46:27 -0500 "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes"
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> http://fortsmith.craigslist.org/cto/5615588462.html

Well, the engine bay definitely shows some light color.


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Re: [MBZ] OT: I'm back!

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They're also not terribly theft proof... We're 3/4 mile from the road, the 
idjits get in there and try to mess stuff up. Or used to anyway, increased 
vigilance on the part of the neighbors has cut down on that a lot.
Anyway this is a long term plan, storage for the new tractor and possibly a 
farm truck...
-Curt

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On Mon, 6 Jun 2016 17:06:06 + (UTC) Curt Raymond via Mercedes
 wrote:

> 15 year warranty... Doesn't mention how much snow load its rated for.
> I'm thinking more like: http://www.americansteelspan.com/garagekits.html
> -Curt

I think those are better long term; the Farmtek buildings are "quick and
dirty."


Craig


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> On Sun, 05 Jun 2016 21:00:26 -0500 Curley McLain via Mercedes
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> 
> > Farmtek.com
> 
> As in
> http://www.farmtek.com/farm/supplies/cat1a;ft_fabric_buildings.html
> 
>     and
> 
> http://www.farmtek.com/farm/supplies/cat1;ft_fabric_buildings;ft_garages_vehicle_storage.html
> 
> 
> Craig
> 
> 
> > > Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
> > >
> > > Should mostly pay for the tractor mentioned above but we'll need 
> > > another building to put it in. Looking at maybe a quonset hut in
> > > the size of a 2 car garage...
> > > -Curt
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Re: [MBZ] Dash camera crash video

[archer75--- via Mercedes]

Glad you survived, G.Mann, and hope your injuries are not too serious.
Gerry

G Mann wrote:
> OK.. thanks to everyone. Let's try this and see if it works.
> Video from Black Box dash camera from 5 days ago when I got hit in the rear
> while driving at the speed limit. Car that hit me is certainly a total..
> entire front crush area "crushed" .. my car may be repairable, the process
> has only started.. but it and I are hurt... I left the scene in an
> ambulance, the car on a flatbed.
> 
> The camera only gives a "forward view" of the crash.. I had made the
> decision to purchase a second camera for the rear.. just had not ordered
> it.. best plans of mice and men. I would love to have had a rear view video
> of the crash.. I suspect driver was on a cell phone or distracted..
> 
> On impact the car was driven 800+ feet, across oncoming traffic into a
> block wall.. First 45 seconds of the video cover all that happened.. it
> runs 2min 16 sec, before I shut the camera off.
> 
> I think the camera just paid for it's self.. Thought I would try to "share
> the experience" .. Special thanks to Wilton.. since your crash event
> triggered my decision to install the camera. Like you, it could have gone
> so much worse, for example, if there had been oncoming traffic.. I missed
> the next opposing car by about 12 seconds.. Likely it would have been fatal
> for most, in that case.. with head on.
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Re: [MBZ] Was this originally silver?

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Tue, 7 Jun 2016 14:46:27 -0500 "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes"
 wrote:

> http://fortsmith.craigslist.org/cto/5615588462.html

Well, the engine bay definitely shows some light color.


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Re: [MBZ] OMG I have sooooooo been waiting for this!

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Tue, 7 Jun 2016 14:02:03 -0400 Joel Cairo via Mercedes
 wrote:

> http://www.amlu.com/2016/06/07/mercedes-benz-teams-up-with-hugo-boss-for-2016-golf-collection/


And this demonstrates very clearly just how much MBNA is out of touch.

Good grief!


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[MBZ] Was this originally silver?

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

http://fortsmith.craigslist.org/cto/5615588462.html


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Re: [MBZ] FP-K22MW21 pump kit

[Rick Knoble via Mercedes]

Not much turns up in a search. 
‎
‎http://www.vendio.com/stores/piston111/item/car-truck-parts-other/mercedes-diesel-lift-pump-bosc/lid=10835629

‎https://www.bildelsbasen.se/se-sv/OEM/2445103010/

‎https://www.bildelsbasen.se/se-sv/Mercedes/MB-200_300-(W123)/1976_1986/Bränsle/Förpump-Diesel/Alla/ID-29974805/OEM-2445103010/
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Subject: [MBZ] FP-K22MW21 pump kit

THe OM616/617NA transfer pump (lift pump) is Bosch FP-K22MW2 or ten 
digit 2 445 103 010. MB never did provide a kit in the USA, and I don't 
now if Bosch ever did. I am thinking in the RTW, that a kit may be 
available. has anyone ever seen a kit or have foreign contacts to 
inquire about a kit for the pump?

Nothing turns up on fleabay except a pump body. That is the one part I 
don't need.

The good news is that I took the 240D out tonight for a 2 mile run, and 
now it runs fine. The apparent warning I had, but was unable to 
attribute to any cause, is that at idle, especially when cold, the 
engine would randomly miss at idle. The pump seemed to function 
adequately at higher RPM, as on last thursday I ran it probably 60 miles 
or so at highway speeds. It is the opposite of a obstructed filter, or 
air leak which show up first at high speed or starting.

I was able to pump up fuel easily with the hand primer. It filled the 
hose to the filter and I bled the air out there, then tightened the new 
banjo fitting. I have been hoarding new clear fuel lines since 1999. I 
put the one from the transfer pump to the filter on with the used pump.
Unfortunately the hand primer leaks when used. THe original was ok I 
think. I may change that some day.

Has anyone seen exploded drawings of the pump or parts drawings? I'd 
still like to figure out how they are made to see if I can repair the 
old ones.

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Re: [MBZ] I want one

[clay via Mercedes]

Local ball park has a wagyu beef burger for $15.  They turn it into a kingsford 
briquet on garlic toast

clay

On Jun 4, 2016, at 10:58 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:

> My point exactly.  It's like buying Kobe beef ground into hamburger for
> $50/lb and making sloppy joes.
> 
> On Sat, Jun 4, 2016 at 1:35 PM, Karl Wittnebel 
> wrote:
> 
>> I guess that is sort of the point; this gwagen is not a luxury car.
>> On Jun 4, 2016 10:29 AM, "Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes" <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> You haven't been paying attention.  I am a jalopinist at heart but have
>>> made it abundantly clear draw the line at crank windows, particularly in a
>>> luxury car..
>>> 
>>> On Sat, Jun 4, 2016 at 9:26 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <
>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> 
 That surprises me as cheap as you are I figured you would love crank
 Windows.
 
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> 
> To channel my inner Trump - crank windows are DISGUSTING and STUPID.
> 
> On Fri, Jun 3, 2016 at 7:39 PM, Joel Cairo via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> 
>> 
 
>>> http://truckyeah.jalopnik.com/the-mercedes-g-wagen-is-back-to-crank-windows-and-cloth-1780135509
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Re: [MBZ] Dash camera crash video

[Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes]

This discussion motivated me to get one too. Thanks to this community for 
sharing useful information!

Greg

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Subject: [MBZ] Dash camera crash video

OK.. thanks to everyone. Let's try this and see if it works.

Video from Black Box dash camera from 5 days ago when I got hit in the rear
while driving at the speed limit. Car that hit me is certainly a total..
entire front crush area "crushed" .. my car may be repairable, the process
has only started.. but it and I are hurt... I left the scene in an
ambulance, the car on a flatbed.

The camera only gives a "forward view" of the crash.. I had made the
decision to purchase a second camera for the rear.. just had not ordered
it.. best plans of mice and men. I would love to have had a rear view video
of the crash.. I suspect driver was on a cell phone or distracted..

On impact the car was driven 800+ feet, across oncoming traffic into a
block wall.. First 45 seconds of the video cover all that happened.. it
runs 2min 16 sec, before I shut the camera off.

I think the camera just paid for it's self.. Thought I would try to "share
the experience" .. Special thanks to Wilton.. since your crash event
triggered my decision to install the camera. Like you, it could have gone
so much worse, for example, if there had been oncoming traffic.. I missed
the next opposing car by about 12 seconds.. Likely it would have been fatal
for most, in that case.. with head on.

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Re: [MBZ] OT: I'm back!

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Mon, 6 Jun 2016 17:06:06 + (UTC) Curt Raymond via Mercedes
 wrote:

> 15 year warranty... Doesn't mention how much snow load its rated for.
> I'm thinking more like: http://www.americansteelspan.com/garagekits.html
> -Curt

I think those are better long term; the Farmtek buildings are "quick and
dirty."


Craig


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> Cc: Craig 
>  Sent: Monday, June 6, 2016 12:02 PM
>  Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: I'm back!
>
> On Sun, 05 Jun 2016 21:00:26 -0500 Curley McLain via Mercedes
>  wrote:
> 
> > Farmtek.com
> 
> As in
> http://www.farmtek.com/farm/supplies/cat1a;ft_fabric_buildings.html
> 
>     and
> 
> http://www.farmtek.com/farm/supplies/cat1;ft_fabric_buildings;ft_garages_vehicle_storage.html
> 
> 
> Craig
> 
> 
> > > Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
> > >
> > > Should mostly pay for the tractor mentioned above but we'll need 
> > > another building to put it in. Looking at maybe a quonset hut in
> > > the size of a 2 car garage...
> > > -Curt
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Re: [MBZ] Dash camera crash video

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Tue, 7 Jun 2016 10:18:17 -0700 G Mann via Mercedes
 wrote:

> OK.. thanks to everyone. Let's try this and see if it works.
>
>  20150010.MOV
> 

It worked. Thank you for posting it.


> Video from Black Box dash camera from 5 days ago when I got hit in the
> rear while driving at the speed limit. Car that hit me is certainly a
> total.. entire front crush area "crushed" .. my car may be repairable,
> the process has only started.. but it and I are hurt... I left the
> scene in an ambulance, the car on a flatbed.

I'm very sorry for your wreck.
What kind of car were you driving?
What was the speed limit?
What kind of injuries did you sustain?

I wonder how fast the car behind you was going ...


> I would love to have had a rear view video of the crash.

As, I am sure, all of us and the police as well.

 
> On impact the car was driven 800+ feet, across oncoming traffic into a
> block wall.. First 45 seconds of the video cover all that happened.. it
> runs 2min 16 sec, before I shut the camera off.

Does the camera have internal battery power to run on? If so, you could
have removed it from its windshield mount and surveyed the situation and
the damage.


> I think the camera just paid for it's self.

Yes, indeed.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Dash camera crash video

[Joel Cairo via Mercedes]

Wait, I don't think that's how it works...

--JC (checks some vids on the internets...)


On 6/7/16 2:21 PM, G Mann via Mercedes wrote:

My claims of lost of
coitus function with my 2, 26 yr old mistresses however won't fly well at
69.. haha..


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Re: [MBZ] Dash camera crash video

[G Mann via Mercedes]

Yes, just motoring along... driving the speed limit for the area... which
is 45 mph.. Head on a swivel, watching for side street cars that pull out,
etc.. and BAMMM.. from the rear.. if you turn up the sound, you can
clearly hear the impact and a huge "Grunt" from me as I felt the shot..

I have no idea how fast the car behind me was, but based on the energy
imparted on impact.. it had a pretty good delta P on me.. since we were
both traveling the same direction..

Like Wilton.. I expect to experience elevated caution, post crash.. As far
as the "junkyard dog lawyer" .. covered.. haha.. My claims of lost of
coitus function with my 2, 26 yr old mistresses however won't fly well at
69.. haha.. Might get challenged on that.. however.. I'm now walking with a
limp I didn't have and other indications of having had my bell rung.. Since
my plan is to live forever.. I'll either get better.. or learn to live with
it.. ;))

Soon, I hope.. I have Mercedes to work on... and restore..


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On Tue, Jun 7, 2016 at 11:06 AM, WILTON via Mercedes 
wrote:

> I noticed the green light and thought for a second that's where you were
> gonna "get it."
>
> I've felt really nervous while driving since my accident - like I've never
> felt driving nor flying before.  Just as you were, I was doing everything
> absolutely correct and got clobbered, anyway.  'Don't know of anything I
> could have done differently other than having been a few seconds earlier or
> later in that intersection.
>
> BTW, Schwartze (211) drives exceedingly well - much more power than I
> need, quiet, and smooth - drives/rides nearly as good as a well maintained
> 126.
>
> Wilton
>
> - Original Message - From: "G Mann via Mercedes" <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com>
> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
> Cc: "G Mann" 
> Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2016 1:50 PM
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Dash camera crash video
>
>
> Always good to keep in mind.. If it's you who screws up.. the video can and
>> will be used as evidence. So.. it's not a "Perfect world"...
>> In the early part of the video.. I go through a stoplight.. if you
>> notice..
>> the camera picks up the light quite nicely.. no question it was a green
>> light.. it does just a well at night or low light also..
>> I'm impressed.
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>>
>> This one we have has a pretty wide angle lens so it covers quite a bit.
>>> Banggood has some front/back cams that do both at once. Two of those
>>> would
>>> work to get 360 deg but if you want outside the windows you would need 3
>>> I
>>> would think, a front/back and one on each side window just looking one
>>> direction.
>>>
>>> --R
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 6/7/16 1:43 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes wrote:
>>>
>>> G writes:

 Thanks for the confirmation that the email google drive link actually

> worked!
>
> Yep.

 The people that instantly arrived on the scene and did things like
 direct

> traffic and call it in were nothing short of incredible. It really
> restores
> my faith in humanity.
>
> There are still good people in the world. Just very few in the media
 or politics.

 Yes.. camera give excellent quality,

>
> Need four. One out the front. One out the back.
 One at the passenger window (officers sometime walk up to that side,
 esp.
 on a busy road).
 One aimed at the drivers window.

 Anyone know of such a setup? Cameras from Banggood or DealXtreme and
 make
 your
 own?

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Re: [MBZ] THIS ONE WEIRD TRICK LITERALLY CHANGED MY LIFE!

[Joel Cairo via Mercedes]

The one I'm using is a 100W equivalent, I think I got it at Costco.  I 
bought a bunch of them a year or two ago, I think they were like $6 or 
so.  I have been pleased with them except they aren't good for ceiling 
fixtures as they are sorta heavy and a bit larger than a regular bulb.  
I think they might be a bit sensitive to the heat inside the globe too. 
But you can't buy 100W bulbs any more, so this is the way to go.  But it 
works great in the drop light.


Costco has a large selection of LED bulbs now, I don't think they have 
the curlie fries any more.


--JC


On 6/7/16 1:20 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:

I bought an LED at our local hardware store a couple months ago, it ended up in 
one of the fixtures I do video with, its pretty terrific...
Actually I've been very happy with all the LED bulbs I've bought for household 
use. Of course none of them has cost less than $9 so it should be no surprise 
they're way better than $2 CFLs...
-CurtBuy quality stuff, get quality results.

   From: Joel Cairo via Mercedes 
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Cc: Joel Cairo 
  Sent: Tuesday, June 7, 2016 1:04 PM
  Subject: [MBZ] THIS ONE WEIRD TRICK LITERALLY CHANGED MY LIFE!

And it will change yours too!  You won't believe what happens next!




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Re: [MBZ] Dash camera crash video

[WILTON via Mercedes]

I noticed the green light and thought for a second that's where you were 
gonna "get it."


I've felt really nervous while driving since my accident - like I've never 
felt driving nor flying before.  Just as you were, I was doing everything 
absolutely correct and got clobbered, anyway.  'Don't know of anything I 
could have done differently other than having been a few seconds earlier or 
later in that intersection.


BTW, Schwartze (211) drives exceedingly well - much more power than I need, 
quiet, and smooth - drives/rides nearly as good as a well maintained 126.


Wilton

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To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Cc: "G Mann" 
Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2016 1:50 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Dash camera crash video


Always good to keep in mind.. If it's you who screws up.. the video can 
and

will be used as evidence. So.. it's not a "Perfect world"...
In the early part of the video.. I go through a stoplight.. if you 
notice..

the camera picks up the light quite nicely.. no question it was a green
light.. it does just a well at night or low light also..
I'm impressed.


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On Tue, Jun 7, 2016 at 10:46 AM, Joel Cairo via Mercedes <
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This one we have has a pretty wide angle lens so it covers quite a bit.
Banggood has some front/back cams that do both at once. Two of those 
would
work to get 360 deg but if you want outside the windows you would need 3 
I

would think, a front/back and one on each side window just looking one
direction.

--R



On 6/7/16 1:43 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes wrote:


G writes:

Thanks for the confirmation that the email google drive link actually

worked!


Yep.

The people that instantly arrived on the scene and did things like 
direct

traffic and call it in were nothing short of incredible. It really
restores
my faith in humanity.


There are still good people in the world. Just very few in the media
or politics.

Yes.. camera give excellent quality,



Need four. One out the front. One out the back.
One at the passenger window (officers sometime walk up to that side, 
esp.

on a busy road).
One aimed at the drivers window.

Anyone know of such a setup? Cameras from Banggood or DealXtreme and 
make

your
own?

Rick
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[MBZ] OMG I have sooooooo been waiting for this!

[Joel Cairo via Mercedes]

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Re: [MBZ] Dash camera crash video

[Joel Cairo via Mercedes]

So you're just motoring along at a reasonable constant speed minding 
your own bidness and this creature just runs into the back of your car?  
How fast was she going?  How could she not see you? I know the answers 
to the first and last (cranial/rectal inversion), I see the same 
behavior around here all the time. What car were you driving?


You need to find some junkyard dog lawyer (Better Call Saul!) and make 
her miserable idiot life even more miserable.  You have considerable 
pain, suffering, inability to "perform" in various ways, and some memory 
issues, right?  They found that in the ER (realizing that some effects 
don't happen for a coupla days), right?


--JC


On 6/7/16 1:50 PM, G Mann via Mercedes wrote:

Always good to keep in mind.. If it's you who screws up.. the video can and
will be used as evidence. So.. it's not a "Perfect world"...
In the early part of the video.. I go through a stoplight.. if you notice..
the camera picks up the light quite nicely.. no question it was a green
light.. it does just a well at night or low light also..
I'm impressed.


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mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:


This one we have has a pretty wide angle lens so it covers quite a bit.
Banggood has some front/back cams that do both at once. Two of those would
work to get 360 deg but if you want outside the windows you would need 3 I
would think, a front/back and one on each side window just looking one
direction.

--R



On 6/7/16 1:43 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes wrote:


G writes:

Thanks for the confirmation that the email google drive link actually

worked!


Yep.

The people that instantly arrived on the scene and did things like direct

traffic and call it in were nothing short of incredible. It really
restores
my faith in humanity.


There are still good people in the world. Just very few in the media
or politics.

Yes.. camera give excellent quality,
Need four. One out the front. One out the back.
One at the passenger window (officers sometime walk up to that side, esp.
on a busy road).
One aimed at the drivers window.

Anyone know of such a setup? Cameras from Banggood or DealXtreme and make
your
own?

Rick
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Re: [MBZ] Dash camera crash video

[WILTON via Mercedes]

I had that fleeting thought of ejection during my accident, too.

Wilton

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Cc: "G Mann" 
Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2016 1:46 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Dash camera crash video



Thanks,  I will have a little healing up to do. It rang my bell pretty
hard. but looks like my motto of "You can't kill me, you can only wish you
did" will prevail..

Have to say, about 4 seconds post impact.. I was wishing for a Martin 
Baker
ejection seat.. I would have been grabbing the handle... as it was.. 
exited

the vehicle ASAP.. so all those years of good training kicked in..


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On Tue, Jun 7, 2016 at 10:37 AM, WILTON via Mercedes 


wrote:


Oops!  I didn't read well enough.  'Hope you are doing well, not badly
hurt and are recovering well.

Wilton

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Cc: "WILTON" 
Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2016 1:33 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Dash camera crash video



WOW!  Thanks for sharing.   'Hope nobody was hurt.


'Don't have my cam installed on Schwartze (211) yet.  'Having problem
pulling up front edge of "wood" on center console around gear shift 
lever

to gain access to lighter power.
How-to videos show it coming up easily by pulling upward on front edge;
then ashtray and lighter supposedly come out easily.   I feel like if I
pull up any harder on the piece around shifter, I may crack something.

Wilton

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To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Cc: "G Mann" 
Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2016 1:18 PM
Subject: [MBZ] Dash camera crash video


OK.. thanks to everyone. Let's try this and see if it works.


Video from Black Box dash camera from 5 days ago when I got hit in the
rear
while driving at the speed limit. Car that hit me is certainly a 
total..

entire front crush area "crushed" .. my car may be repairable, the
process
has only started.. but it and I are hurt... I left the scene in an
ambulance, the car on a flatbed.

The camera only gives a "forward view" of the crash.. I had made the
decision to purchase a second camera for the rear.. just had not 
ordered

it.. best plans of mice and men. I would love to have had a rear view
video
of the crash.. I suspect driver was on a cell phone or distracted..

On impact the car was driven 800+ feet, across oncoming traffic into a
block wall.. First 45 seconds of the video cover all that happened.. it
runs 2min 16 sec, before I shut the camera off.

I think the camera just paid for it's self.. Thought I would try to
"share
the experience" .. Special thanks to Wilton.. since your crash event
triggered my decision to install the camera. Like you, it could have 
gone
so much worse, for example, if there had been oncoming traffic.. I 
missed

the next opposing car by about 12 seconds.. Likely it would have been
fatal
for most, in that case.. with head on.


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Re: [MBZ] Dash camera crash video

[G Mann via Mercedes]

Always good to keep in mind.. If it's you who screws up.. the video can and
will be used as evidence. So.. it's not a "Perfect world"...
In the early part of the video.. I go through a stoplight.. if you notice..
the camera picks up the light quite nicely.. no question it was a green
light.. it does just a well at night or low light also..
I'm impressed.


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> This one we have has a pretty wide angle lens so it covers quite a bit.
> Banggood has some front/back cams that do both at once. Two of those would
> work to get 360 deg but if you want outside the windows you would need 3 I
> would think, a front/back and one on each side window just looking one
> direction.
>
> --R
>
>
>
> On 6/7/16 1:43 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes wrote:
>
>> G writes:
>>
>> Thanks for the confirmation that the email google drive link actually
>>> worked!
>>>
>> Yep.
>>
>> The people that instantly arrived on the scene and did things like direct
>>> traffic and call it in were nothing short of incredible. It really
>>> restores
>>> my faith in humanity.
>>>
>> There are still good people in the world. Just very few in the media
>> or politics.
>>
>> Yes.. camera give excellent quality,
>>>
>> Need four. One out the front. One out the back.
>> One at the passenger window (officers sometime walk up to that side, esp.
>> on a busy road).
>> One aimed at the drivers window.
>>
>> Anyone know of such a setup? Cameras from Banggood or DealXtreme and make
>> your
>> own?
>>
>> Rick
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Curley SEz:

>I don't even know where the
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You are in Iowa, yes?

Here are a few in Iowa.

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http://www.southcentraldiesel.com/

http://beckleyimports.com/authorized-bosch-service-center/

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Re: [MBZ] Dash camera crash video

[G Mann via Mercedes]

Thanks,  I will have a little healing up to do. It rang my bell pretty
hard. but looks like my motto of "You can't kill me, you can only wish you
did" will prevail..

Have to say, about 4 seconds post impact.. I was wishing for a Martin Baker
ejection seat.. I would have been grabbing the handle... as it was.. exited
the vehicle ASAP.. so all those years of good training kicked in..


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> Oops!  I didn't read well enough.  'Hope you are doing well, not badly
> hurt and are recovering well.
>
> Wilton
>
> - Original Message - From: "WILTON via Mercedes" <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com>
> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
> Cc: "WILTON" 
> Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2016 1:33 PM
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Dash camera crash video
>
>
>
> WOW!  Thanks for sharing.   'Hope nobody was hurt.
>>
>> 'Don't have my cam installed on Schwartze (211) yet.  'Having problem
>> pulling up front edge of "wood" on center console around gear shift lever
>> to gain access to lighter power.
>> How-to videos show it coming up easily by pulling upward on front edge;
>> then ashtray and lighter supposedly come out easily.   I feel like if I
>> pull up any harder on the piece around shifter, I may crack something.
>>
>> Wilton
>>
>> - Original Message - From: "G Mann via Mercedes" <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com>
>> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
>> Cc: "G Mann" 
>> Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2016 1:18 PM
>> Subject: [MBZ] Dash camera crash video
>>
>>
>> OK.. thanks to everyone. Let's try this and see if it works.
>>>
>>> Video from Black Box dash camera from 5 days ago when I got hit in the
>>> rear
>>> while driving at the speed limit. Car that hit me is certainly a total..
>>> entire front crush area "crushed" .. my car may be repairable, the
>>> process
>>> has only started.. but it and I are hurt... I left the scene in an
>>> ambulance, the car on a flatbed.
>>>
>>> The camera only gives a "forward view" of the crash.. I had made the
>>> decision to purchase a second camera for the rear.. just had not ordered
>>> it.. best plans of mice and men. I would love to have had a rear view
>>> video
>>> of the crash.. I suspect driver was on a cell phone or distracted..
>>>
>>> On impact the car was driven 800+ feet, across oncoming traffic into a
>>> block wall.. First 45 seconds of the video cover all that happened.. it
>>> runs 2min 16 sec, before I shut the camera off.
>>>
>>> I think the camera just paid for it's self.. Thought I would try to
>>> "share
>>> the experience" .. Special thanks to Wilton.. since your crash event
>>> triggered my decision to install the camera. Like you, it could have gone
>>> so much worse, for example, if there had been oncoming traffic.. I missed
>>> the next opposing car by about 12 seconds.. Likely it would have been
>>> fatal
>>> for most, in that case.. with head on.
>>>
>>>
>>> 20150010.MOV
>>> <
>>> https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B5c73OMiKPa6b1FMMW83TUNJb2c/view?usp=drive_web
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Re: [MBZ] Dash camera crash video

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This one we have has a pretty wide angle lens so it covers quite a bit.  
Banggood has some front/back cams that do both at once. Two of those 
would work to get 360 deg but if you want outside the windows you would 
need 3 I would think, a front/back and one on each side window just 
looking one direction.


--R


On 6/7/16 1:43 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes wrote:

G writes:


Thanks for the confirmation that the email google drive link actually
worked!

Yep.


The people that instantly arrived on the scene and did things like direct
traffic and call it in were nothing short of incredible. It really restores
my faith in humanity.

There are still good people in the world. Just very few in the media
or politics.


Yes.. camera give excellent quality,

Need four. One out the front. One out the back.
One at the passenger window (officers sometime walk up to that side, esp. on a 
busy road).
One aimed at the drivers window.

Anyone know of such a setup? Cameras from Banggood or DealXtreme and make your
own?

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Re: [MBZ] Dash camera crash video

[Rick Knoble via Mercedes]

G writes:

>Thanks for the confirmation that the email google drive link actually
>worked!

Yep.

>The people that instantly arrived on the scene and did things like direct
>traffic and call it in were nothing short of incredible. It really restores
>my faith in humanity.

There are still good people in the world. Just very few in the media 
or politics.

>Yes.. camera give excellent quality,

Need four. One out the front. One out the back.
One at the passenger window (officers sometime walk up to that side, esp. on a 
busy road).
One aimed at the drivers window.

Anyone know of such a setup? Cameras from Banggood or DealXtreme and make your
own? 

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Re: [MBZ] Dash camera crash video

[G Mann via Mercedes]

Thanks for the confirmation that the email google drive link actually
worked!

The people that instantly arrived on the scene and did things like direct
traffic and call it in were nothing short of incredible. It really restores
my faith in humanity.

Yes.. camera give excellent quality, I think.. I have several hours of
driving with it on in both dark and daylight conditions.. resolution is
good enough to pull up license plate numbers if needed, even at night..
impressive, for the price.. My attorneys thought it was impressive... so
did my doctors.. ;))

Looks like I'm sold on having live video on board. Since we had several
involved in the discussion, I thought it would be perhaps helpful to do a
little "show and tell" from the live action point of view. It has 120
degree view on the lense.. I continue to be impressed with the clarity of
the side views.. Mount is a clamp on to the rear view mirror stem.. very
solid arrangement and it clears the windshield of yet another suction cup
mount.


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> Quality out of the camera is very nice.
> I guess it was good her phone was handy to call 911...
> -Curt
>
>   From: G Mann via Mercedes 
>  To: Mercedes Discussion List 
> Cc: G Mann 
>  Sent: Tuesday, June 7, 2016 1:18 PM
>  Subject: [MBZ] Dash camera crash video
>
> OK.. thanks to everyone. Let's try this and see if it works.
>
> Video from Black Box dash camera from 5 days ago when I got hit in the rear
> while driving at the speed limit. Car that hit me is certainly a total..
> entire front crush area "crushed" .. my car may be repairable, the process
> has only started.. but it and I are hurt... I left the scene in an
> ambulance, the car on a flatbed.
>
> The camera only gives a "forward view" of the crash.. I had made the
> decision to purchase a second camera for the rear.. just had not ordered
> it.. best plans of mice and men. I would love to have had a rear view video
> of the crash.. I suspect driver was on a cell phone or distracted..
>
> On impact the car was driven 800+ feet, across oncoming traffic into a
> block wall.. First 45 seconds of the video cover all that happened.. it
> runs 2min 16 sec, before I shut the camera off.
>
> I think the camera just paid for it's self.. Thought I would try to "share
> the experience" .. Special thanks to Wilton.. since your crash event
> triggered my decision to install the camera. Like you, it could have gone
> so much worse, for example, if there had been oncoming traffic.. I missed
> the next opposing car by about 12 seconds.. Likely it would have been fatal
> for most, in that case.. with head on.
>
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Re: [MBZ] Dash camera crash video

[G Mann via Mercedes]

Wilton,
Thanks.. the other driver walked out of the wreckage.. as did I.. no broken
bones.. but plenty of sore and pulled muscles.. Took the invite to go to ER
just to be sure.

On power issue.. I have been running just on lighter plug in power because
I "couldn't yet find the time to wire it into the key on circuit.." I'm
glad I did have it on.. you might wish to do that just for now.


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On Tue, Jun 7, 2016 at 10:33 AM, WILTON via Mercedes 
wrote:

> WOW!  Thanks for sharing.   'Hope nobody was hurt.
>
> 'Don't have my cam installed on Schwartze (211) yet.  'Having problem
> pulling up front edge of "wood" on center console around gear shift lever
> to gain access to lighter power.
> How-to videos show it coming up easily by pulling upward on front edge;
> then ashtray and lighter supposedly come out easily.   I feel like if I
> pull up any harder on the piece around shifter, I may crack something.
>
> Wilton
>
> - Original Message - From: "G Mann via Mercedes" <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com>
> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
> Cc: "G Mann" 
> Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2016 1:18 PM
> Subject: [MBZ] Dash camera crash video
>
>
> OK.. thanks to everyone. Let's try this and see if it works.
>>
>> Video from Black Box dash camera from 5 days ago when I got hit in the
>> rear
>> while driving at the speed limit. Car that hit me is certainly a total..
>> entire front crush area "crushed" .. my car may be repairable, the process
>> has only started.. but it and I are hurt... I left the scene in an
>> ambulance, the car on a flatbed.
>>
>> The camera only gives a "forward view" of the crash.. I had made the
>> decision to purchase a second camera for the rear.. just had not ordered
>> it.. best plans of mice and men. I would love to have had a rear view
>> video
>> of the crash.. I suspect driver was on a cell phone or distracted..
>>
>> On impact the car was driven 800+ feet, across oncoming traffic into a
>> block wall.. First 45 seconds of the video cover all that happened.. it
>> runs 2min 16 sec, before I shut the camera off.
>>
>> I think the camera just paid for it's self.. Thought I would try to "share
>> the experience" .. Special thanks to Wilton.. since your crash event
>> triggered my decision to install the camera. Like you, it could have gone
>> so much worse, for example, if there had been oncoming traffic.. I missed
>> the next opposing car by about 12 seconds.. Likely it would have been
>> fatal
>> for most, in that case.. with head on.
>>
>>
>> 20150010.MOV
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Re: [MBZ] Dash camera crash video

[WILTON via Mercedes]

Oops!  I didn't read well enough.  'Hope you are doing well, not badly hurt 
and are recovering well.


Wilton

- Original Message - 
From: "WILTON via Mercedes" 

To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Cc: "WILTON" 
Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2016 1:33 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Dash camera crash video



WOW!  Thanks for sharing.   'Hope nobody was hurt.

'Don't have my cam installed on Schwartze (211) yet.  'Having problem 
pulling up front edge of "wood" on center console around gear shift lever 
to gain access to lighter power.
How-to videos show it coming up easily by pulling upward on front edge; 
then ashtray and lighter supposedly come out easily.   I feel like if I 
pull up any harder on the piece around shifter, I may crack something.


Wilton

- Original Message - 
From: "G Mann via Mercedes" 

To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Cc: "G Mann" 
Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2016 1:18 PM
Subject: [MBZ] Dash camera crash video



OK.. thanks to everyone. Let's try this and see if it works.

Video from Black Box dash camera from 5 days ago when I got hit in the 
rear

while driving at the speed limit. Car that hit me is certainly a total..
entire front crush area "crushed" .. my car may be repairable, the 
process

has only started.. but it and I are hurt... I left the scene in an
ambulance, the car on a flatbed.

The camera only gives a "forward view" of the crash.. I had made the
decision to purchase a second camera for the rear.. just had not ordered
it.. best plans of mice and men. I would love to have had a rear view 
video

of the crash.. I suspect driver was on a cell phone or distracted..

On impact the car was driven 800+ feet, across oncoming traffic into a
block wall.. First 45 seconds of the video cover all that happened.. it
runs 2min 16 sec, before I shut the camera off.

I think the camera just paid for it's self.. Thought I would try to 
"share

the experience" .. Special thanks to Wilton.. since your crash event
triggered my decision to install the camera. Like you, it could have gone
so much worse, for example, if there had been oncoming traffic.. I missed
the next opposing car by about 12 seconds.. Likely it would have been 
fatal

for most, in that case.. with head on.


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Re: [MBZ] Dash camera crash video

[WILTON via Mercedes]

WOW!  Thanks for sharing.   'Hope nobody was hurt.

'Don't have my cam installed on Schwartze (211) yet.  'Having problem 
pulling up front edge of "wood" on center console around gear shift lever to 
gain access to lighter power.
How-to videos show it coming up easily by pulling upward on front edge; then 
ashtray and lighter supposedly come out easily.   I feel like if I pull up 
any harder on the piece around shifter, I may crack something.


Wilton

- Original Message - 
From: "G Mann via Mercedes" 

To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Cc: "G Mann" 
Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2016 1:18 PM
Subject: [MBZ] Dash camera crash video



OK.. thanks to everyone. Let's try this and see if it works.

Video from Black Box dash camera from 5 days ago when I got hit in the 
rear

while driving at the speed limit. Car that hit me is certainly a total..
entire front crush area "crushed" .. my car may be repairable, the process
has only started.. but it and I are hurt... I left the scene in an
ambulance, the car on a flatbed.

The camera only gives a "forward view" of the crash.. I had made the
decision to purchase a second camera for the rear.. just had not ordered
it.. best plans of mice and men. I would love to have had a rear view 
video

of the crash.. I suspect driver was on a cell phone or distracted..

On impact the car was driven 800+ feet, across oncoming traffic into a
block wall.. First 45 seconds of the video cover all that happened.. it
runs 2min 16 sec, before I shut the camera off.

I think the camera just paid for it's self.. Thought I would try to "share
the experience" .. Special thanks to Wilton.. since your crash event
triggered my decision to install the camera. Like you, it could have gone
so much worse, for example, if there had been oncoming traffic.. I missed
the next opposing car by about 12 seconds.. Likely it would have been 
fatal

for most, in that case.. with head on.


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Re: [MBZ] Dash camera crash video

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

Quality out of the camera is very nice.
I guess it was good her phone was handy to call 911...
-Curt

  From: G Mann via Mercedes 
 To: Mercedes Discussion List  
Cc: G Mann 
 Sent: Tuesday, June 7, 2016 1:18 PM
 Subject: [MBZ] Dash camera crash video
   
OK.. thanks to everyone. Let's try this and see if it works.

Video from Black Box dash camera from 5 days ago when I got hit in the rear
while driving at the speed limit. Car that hit me is certainly a total..
entire front crush area "crushed" .. my car may be repairable, the process
has only started.. but it and I are hurt... I left the scene in an
ambulance, the car on a flatbed.

The camera only gives a "forward view" of the crash.. I had made the
decision to purchase a second camera for the rear.. just had not ordered
it.. best plans of mice and men. I would love to have had a rear view video
of the crash.. I suspect driver was on a cell phone or distracted..

On impact the car was driven 800+ feet, across oncoming traffic into a
block wall.. First 45 seconds of the video cover all that happened.. it
runs 2min 16 sec, before I shut the camera off.

I think the camera just paid for it's self.. Thought I would try to "share
the experience" .. Special thanks to Wilton.. since your crash event
triggered my decision to install the camera. Like you, it could have gone
so much worse, for example, if there had been oncoming traffic.. I missed
the next opposing car by about 12 seconds.. Likely it would have been fatal
for most, in that case.. with head on.

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Re: [MBZ] Don't these things usually sell for a lot more than this?

[WILTON via Mercedes]

You've done quite well responding to others.  What you may do for yourself 
and the rest of us by initiating a topic is unlimited.  Initiate some emails 
and send 'em to mercedes@okiebenz.com and SOAR even higher and farther.

Take us with you on a "journey" that you initiate.

Wilton

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To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Cc: "G Mann" 
Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2016 10:44 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Don't these things usually sell for a lot more than this?



Yes Ed,
In all the years as a member on this site, I've never posted a thread, 
only

responded, because I have never been able to find a "post here" link from
the Home Page, if that's the right name for it.

I always just wrote it off as my own lack of "geekness" .. but now it 
seems

there is perhaps some structural issue that keeps it from allowing access?

Above my pay grade in any case..

About a month ago.. I bought and installed one of the Black Box dash
cameras we spoke about in a thread.. 4 days ago, while driving the speed
limit down a straight stretch of highway.. I got hit in the rear with
enough force to drive the car 1000 ft forward, across oncoming traffic,
into a block wall all now on video, because the camera was on when 
ever

the car was running.. Thought I would post a link of the crash, as it
happened, with sound from the built in mic in the camera, just so members
could see it..

The car that hit mine was totaled, mine can be repaired, maybe. The 
lawyers

and doctors are ecstatic at having it all on video. The police are very
convinced of my version of the event after viewing the video.
I think the camera just paid for it's self.

No joy on being able to post a thread.. Ohhh well. It will keep for now.

On Tue, Jun 7, 2016 at 4:42 AM, Ed Booher via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:


Also, the site https://www.okiebenz.com/ routes to an error page. Maybe
the
site doesn't have a proper certificate? The hosting company just gives 
the

generic "Contact the webmaster" page.

On Mon, Jun 6, 2016 at 3:09 PM, G Mann via Mercedes 

wrote:

> Thanks heaps for your response.. I'm "computer challenged" in PC 
> speak..

so
> all direction gladly accepted.
>
> The issue "seems to be" that the site address is http://.
www.oakiebenz.com
> which Java will not accept because it is not "https" thus, in Java 
> wisdom

> not a secure site and verboten..
>
> Because Java will not allow the site to fully open, all the "click 
> here"

> boxes on the opening page remain empty, or non responsive.. thus, I'm
> blocked from access to them.. what ever they are.. All I get is the 
> open

> page welcoming me to OakieBenz with a nice picture of a Merc..
>
> Stumped and Stupid... seems to about cover it.. ;))
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>
> > Making the assumption of Windows here. Java has a "Control Panel." If
you
> > hit the "Windows Key" or click the Start menu then type Java, one of
the
> > options should be "Configure Java." Once you have that control panel
> open,
> > under the Security tab there is an Exception Site List. Sometimes
adding
> > the site to this list will help. If the site is secure (HTTPS / SSL)
then
> > you will need to open the site, and download a copy of the sites 
> > public

> > certificate. Below the Exception Site List there is a "Manage
> Certificates"
> > button. Click this button, set the drop down to "Secure Site" and
Import
> > the site certificate.
> >
> > Realistically a site that is just using Java menus should not have 
> > this

> > problem. What is the actual URL for posting a new thread from the
> website?
> > I've not seen it before. However, I know I have to go through this 
> > with

> all
> > my Cisco gear to run the Java built ASDM software. The software 
> > refuses

> to
> > run if I haven't added the certificate from the ASA to the control
panel.
> > Didn't use to be this way, but every new revision of Java gets 
> > tighter

> > security B.S. because of all the backdoor software running rampant on
the
> > Net.
> >
> > On Sun, Jun 5, 2016 at 2:05 PM, G Mann via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com
> > >
> > wrote:
> >
> > > On another note.. I have never been able to post a new thread
directly
> > from
> > > the www.oakiebenz.com site... Finally discovered that Java security
> has
> > > the
> > > menu items that would allow that blocked.
> > >
> > > Anyone of the computer guru's here "splain" how I can reconfigure 
> > > to

> > post ?
> > > I would be ever so grateful.
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > "Das 

Re: [MBZ] THIS ONE WEIRD TRICK LITERALLY CHANGED MY LIFE!

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

I bought an LED at our local hardware store a couple months ago, it ended up in 
one of the fixtures I do video with, its pretty terrific...
Actually I've been very happy with all the LED bulbs I've bought for household 
use. Of course none of them has cost less than $9 so it should be no surprise 
they're way better than $2 CFLs...
-CurtBuy quality stuff, get quality results.

  From: Joel Cairo via Mercedes 
 To: Mercedes Discussion List  
Cc: Joel Cairo 
 Sent: Tuesday, June 7, 2016 1:04 PM
 Subject: [MBZ] THIS ONE WEIRD TRICK LITERALLY CHANGED MY LIFE!
   
And it will change yours too!  You won't believe what happens next!



When RT of Charleston, SC was faced with a common problem that affects 
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"I was frustrated with my drop light, that really wasn't a drop light, 
you know, because every



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doing chores around the house, working on cars, and so forth."  So I 
finally figured



out I needed to do something different to make my life easier. And the 
one weird trick I discovered really changed my life.  I was searching around



for another light bulb, and I was out of those "rough service" bulbs 
that are supposed to keep working, even when you drop them, you know?  
So I had a flash and picked up







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[MBZ] Dash camera crash video

[G Mann via Mercedes]

OK.. thanks to everyone. Let's try this and see if it works.

Video from Black Box dash camera from 5 days ago when I got hit in the rear
while driving at the speed limit. Car that hit me is certainly a total..
entire front crush area "crushed" .. my car may be repairable, the process
has only started.. but it and I are hurt... I left the scene in an
ambulance, the car on a flatbed.

The camera only gives a "forward view" of the crash.. I had made the
decision to purchase a second camera for the rear.. just had not ordered
it.. best plans of mice and men. I would love to have had a rear view video
of the crash.. I suspect driver was on a cell phone or distracted..

On impact the car was driven 800+ feet, across oncoming traffic into a
block wall.. First 45 seconds of the video cover all that happened.. it
runs 2min 16 sec, before I shut the camera off.

I think the camera just paid for it's self.. Thought I would try to "share
the experience" .. Special thanks to Wilton.. since your crash event
triggered my decision to install the camera. Like you, it could have gone
so much worse, for example, if there had been oncoming traffic.. I missed
the next opposing car by about 12 seconds.. Likely it would have been fatal
for most, in that case.. with head on.

​
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Mexicans

[Mountain Man via Mercedes]

--R wrote:
> ...not that it really mattered whether it was his or theirs.

Does it really matter for USAmericans?  Do we exist better because we
really think it is our land?
We think it is our land, or maybe we don't?  taxes, rent, mortgage
interest, etc.
We think we have representative government that is better than the
Spain related system Grant explained.  Perhaps we still have the same
structure of overlord (despised concept) as south-of-the-border
countries (Grant explanation).  We live better, or, do we?  I bet we
could carry this OT further... except for cynicism, of course.
mao

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[MBZ] THIS ONE WEIRD TRICK LITERALLY CHANGED MY LIFE!

[Joel Cairo via Mercedes]

And it will change yours too!  You won't believe what happens next!



When RT of Charleston, SC was faced with a common problem that affects 
all DIYers, he turned to this common item to solve his problem!




"I was frustrated with my drop light, that really wasn't a drop light, 
you know, because every




time I dropped it, the light broke, so it was very frustrating for me in 
doing chores around the house, working on cars, and so forth."  So I 
finally figured




out I needed to do something different to make my life easier. And the 
one weird trick I discovered really changed my life.  I was searching around




for another light bulb, and I was out of those "rough service" bulbs 
that are supposed to keep working, even when you drop them, you know?  
So I had a flash and picked up








an LED bulb I had in a cabinet.  Those things don't have a filament that 
can brake, so I thought, why not?  I put that sucker in and PRESTO!!! 
WALLAH!!! no more broken bulbs!  It puts out good light and doesn't get 
hot, and best of all IT WON"T BRAKE!  This has changed my life, no more 
frustrations, and my wife is happy she doesn't here any more cussing!  
(Well, about the light anyway)  So it changed both are lives and can 
change you're's to!









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Re: [MBZ] Snook Needs Help!

[Jim Cathey via Mercedes]

Any thoughts?


I think you need a gauge set!

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] FP-K22MW21 pump kit

[Joel Cairo via Mercedes]

Years ago (this would be like 30 !!!) there was an injection shop in 
Dorchester, MA that a buddy of mine took his VW RAbbit injection pump to 
for a rebuild at some point.  I remember him telling me they did all 
kinds, diesels etc and it had been around a long time at that point.  I 
remember driving by the shop occasionally, it was just a nondescript 
little building and I vaguely recall seeing a Bosch sign but I might be 
imagining that at this point.  Whether it is still there or not I would 
not know, maybe a googly would show it?


--R


On 6/7/16 11:37 AM, Curley McLain via Mercedes wrote:
Not yet.  Everyone I knew retired and quit.  One guy drove MB DIesels, 
so I trusted him the most.  He always figured out how to get "Mercedes 
Only" parts through the Bosch system.  I don't even know where the 
nearest pup shop is.



Craig via Mercedes 
June 7, 2016 at 9:45 AMvia Postbox 


On Mon, 06 Jun 2016 22:51:43 -0500 Curley McLain via Mercedes

Have you tried talking with a Bosch injection pump shop?


Craig

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Curley McLain 
June 6, 2016 at 10:51 PMvia Postbox 

THe OM616/617NA transfer pump (lift pump) is Bosch FP-K22MW2  or ten 
digit 2 445 103 010.  MB never did provide a kit in the USA, and I 
don't now if Bosch ever did.  I am thinking in the RTW, that a kit 
may be available.  has anyone ever seen a kit or have foreign 
contacts to inquire about a kit for the pump?


Nothing turns up on fleabay except a pump body.  That is the one part 
I don't need.


The good news is that I took the 240D out tonight for a 2 mile run, 
and now it runs fine.  The apparent warning I had, but was unable to 
attribute to any cause, is that at idle, especially when cold, the 
engine would randomly miss at idle.  The pump seemed to function 
adequately at higher RPM, as on last thursday I ran it probably 60 
miles or so at highway speeds.  It is the opposite of a obstructed 
filter, or air leak which show up first at high speed or starting.


I was able to pump up fuel easily with the hand primer.  It filled 
the hose to the filter and I bled the air out there, then tightened 
the new banjo fitting.  I have been hoarding new clear fuel lines 
since 1999.  I put the one from the transfer pump to the filter on 
with the used pump.  Unfortunately the hand primer leaks when used.  
THe original was ok I think.I may change that some day.


Has anyone seen exploded drawings of the pump or parts drawings?  I'd 
still like to figure out how they are made to see if I can repair the 
old ones.


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Re: [MBZ] Snook Needs Help!

[Joel Cairo via Mercedes]

Is the compressor compressing?  The line should be cold if it is.  If 
not, it is not compressing, maybe the clutch is not actually clutching 
the compressor shaft or something in that mechanism (or the compressor 
is shot)?  Do you have gauges (or the one on the can) to see if the 
pressures are changing when the clutch engages?  When I put in 
refrigerant and the clutch engages, the pressure drops by maybe half 
when the compressor is working.


--R

On 6/7/16 12:07 PM, Donald Snook via Mercedes wrote:

Ok, I didn’t want to clog up the digest with stuff about a ford, but I guess 
Dan has invited it.

I have a 1992 Ford F150. It has 147,000 miles.   I have been trying to get the 
a/c working.   I was converted to 134 a while ago.  I noticed that the clutch 
was spinning.  So, I did some googling and found that I could jumper the Low 
Pressure switch and the compressor should come on even if it is low on Freon.  
It didn’t.  I checked and there was no power to the Switch.   So, I figured I 
had a bad wire or short somewhere.  I decided to go ahead and try to fill it up 
anyway.  I put some in and I have 40-45 pound of pressure (when it was almost 
90 degrees outside).  The compressor wasn’t turning.  I checked the fuses and 
they looked ago.  I replace the fuse for the compressor anyway.  I got out the 
hammer and gave the compressor clutch a few whacks to see if I could get it 
turning.  It started moving and I tried another few whacks.  It started turning 
and was a little noisy. But, after a few minutes it smoothed out and was 
spinning without any noise.   But, no cold air.  I have lots of air flow. But, 
it was HOT.   So, a/c has pressure, compressor is turning, but no cold air.   I 
am wondering if I have:

Some Air (rather than Freon) in the system?

A bad compressor?

A switch issue on the HVAC controls on the dash?

Or the blend door problem?  I can switch the air flow from the vents to the 
floor and up to the defrost.  So, I think that means the blend door is okay.

Any thoughts?

Don Snook
Two BMW 7 series
92 Ford F-150
2006 Cadillac SRX (her car)



From: Dan Penoff [mailto:d...@penoff.com]
Sent: Monday, June 06, 2016 5:22 PM
To: Mercedes List 
Cc: Donald Snook 
Subject: Snook Needs Help!

Donald has questions about Ford truck AC systems.  I know there are some Frod 
truck people here….

Donald, ask away!!

Dan



Begin forwarded message:

From: Donald Snook >
Subject: RE: 300E 2.6
Date: June 6, 2016 at 5:39:54 PM EDT
To: Dan Penoff >

My wife wouldn't go for it.  I thought it would be a great car for my 
stepdaughter.   Anyone in the group have some expertise with Ford Trucks?  I 
didn't want to clog up the digests with Ford truck questions.  But, I have an 
A/c issue I am trying to figure out.

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Re: [MBZ] Snook Needs Help!

[Donald Snook via Mercedes]

Ok, I didn’t want to clog up the digest with stuff about a ford, but I guess 
Dan has invited it.

I have a 1992 Ford F150. It has 147,000 miles.   I have been trying to get the 
a/c working.   I was converted to 134 a while ago.  I noticed that the clutch 
was spinning.  So, I did some googling and found that I could jumper the Low 
Pressure switch and the compressor should come on even if it is low on Freon.  
It didn’t.  I checked and there was no power to the Switch.   So, I figured I 
had a bad wire or short somewhere.  I decided to go ahead and try to fill it up 
anyway.  I put some in and I have 40-45 pound of pressure (when it was almost 
90 degrees outside).  The compressor wasn’t turning.  I checked the fuses and 
they looked ago.  I replace the fuse for the compressor anyway.  I got out the 
hammer and gave the compressor clutch a few whacks to see if I could get it 
turning.  It started moving and I tried another few whacks.  It started turning 
and was a little noisy. But, after a few minutes it smoothed out and was 
spinning without any noise.   But, no cold air.  I have lots of air flow. But, 
it was HOT.   So, a/c has pressure, compressor is turning, but no cold air.   I 
am wondering if I have:

Some Air (rather than Freon) in the system?

A bad compressor?

A switch issue on the HVAC controls on the dash?

Or the blend door problem?  I can switch the air flow from the vents to the 
floor and up to the defrost.  So, I think that means the blend door is okay.

Any thoughts?

Don Snook
Two BMW 7 series
92 Ford F-150
2006 Cadillac SRX (her car)



From: Dan Penoff [mailto:d...@penoff.com]
Sent: Monday, June 06, 2016 5:22 PM
To: Mercedes List 
Cc: Donald Snook 
Subject: Snook Needs Help!

Donald has questions about Ford truck AC systems.  I know there are some Frod 
truck people here….

Donald, ask away!!

Dan



Begin forwarded message:

From: Donald Snook >
Subject: RE: 300E 2.6
Date: June 6, 2016 at 5:39:54 PM EDT
To: Dan Penoff >

My wife wouldn't go for it.  I thought it would be a great car for my 
stepdaughter.   Anyone in the group have some expertise with Ford Trucks?  I 
didn't want to clog up the digests with Ford truck questions.  But, I have an 
A/c issue I am trying to figure out.

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Re: [MBZ] Don't these things usually sell for a lot more than this?

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

Post a thread? This is an email list, just send a new email to 
mercedes@okiebenz.com...
-Curt

  From: G Mann via Mercedes 
 To: Mercedes Discussion List  
Cc: G Mann 
 Sent: Tuesday, June 7, 2016 10:44 AM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Don't these things usually sell for a lot more than this?
   
Yes Ed,
In all the years as a member on this site, I've never posted a thread, only
responded, because I have never been able to find a "post here" link from
the Home Page, if that's the right name for it.

I always just wrote it off as my own lack of "geekness" .. but now it seems
there is perhaps some structural issue that keeps it from allowing access?

Above my pay grade in any case..

About a month ago.. I bought and installed one of the Black Box dash
cameras we spoke about in a thread.. 4 days ago, while driving the speed
limit down a straight stretch of highway.. I got hit in the rear with
enough force to drive the car 1000 ft forward, across oncoming traffic,
into a block wall all now on video, because the camera was on when ever
the car was running.. Thought I would post a link of the crash, as it
happened, with sound from the built in mic in the camera, just so members
could see it..

The car that hit mine was totaled, mine can be repaired, maybe. The lawyers
and doctors are ecstatic at having it all on video. The police are very
convinced of my version of the event after viewing the video.
I think the camera just paid for it's self.

No joy on being able to post a thread.. Ohhh well. It will keep for now.

On Tue, Jun 7, 2016 at 4:42 AM, Ed Booher via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Also, the site https://www.okiebenz.com/ routes to an error page. Maybe
> the
> site doesn't have a proper certificate? The hosting company just gives the
> generic "Contact the webmaster" page.
>
> On Mon, Jun 6, 2016 at 3:09 PM, G Mann via Mercedes  >
> wrote:
>
> > Thanks heaps for your response.. I'm "computer challenged" in PC speak..
> so
> > all direction gladly accepted.
> >
> > The issue "seems to be" that the site address is http://.
> www.oakiebenz.com
> > which Java will not accept because it is not "https" thus, in Java wisdom
> > not a secure site and verboten..
> >
> > Because Java will not allow the site to fully open, all the "click here"
> > boxes on the opening page remain empty, or non responsive.. thus, I'm
> > blocked from access to them.. what ever they are.. All I get is the open
> > page welcoming me to OakieBenz with a nice picture of a Merc..
> >
> > Stumped and Stupid... seems to about cover it.. ;))
> >
> > <
> >
> https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email_source=link_campaign=sig-email_content=webmail_term=icon
> > >
> > Virus-free.
> > www.avast.com
> > <
> >
> https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email_source=link_campaign=sig-email_content=webmail_term=link
> > >
> > <#DDB4FAA8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2>
> >
> > On Mon, Jun 6, 2016 at 4:23 AM, Ed Booher via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Making the assumption of Windows here. Java has a "Control Panel." If
> you
> > > hit the "Windows Key" or click the Start menu then type Java, one of
> the
> > > options should be "Configure Java." Once you have that control panel
> > open,
> > > under the Security tab there is an Exception Site List. Sometimes
> adding
> > > the site to this list will help. If the site is secure (HTTPS / SSL)
> then
> > > you will need to open the site, and download a copy of the sites public
> > > certificate. Below the Exception Site List there is a "Manage
> > Certificates"
> > > button. Click this button, set the drop down to "Secure Site" and
> Import
> > > the site certificate.
> > >
> > > Realistically a site that is just using Java menus should not have this
> > > problem. What is the actual URL for posting a new thread from the
> > website?
> > > I've not seen it before. However, I know I have to go through this with
> > all
> > > my Cisco gear to run the Java built ASDM software. The software refuses
> > to
> > > run if I haven't added the certificate from the ASA to the control
> panel.
> > > Didn't use to be this way, but every new revision of Java gets tighter
> > > security B.S. because of all the backdoor software running rampant on
> the
> > > Net.
> > >
> > > On Sun, Jun 5, 2016 at 2:05 PM, G Mann via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com
> > > >
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > On another note.. I have never been able to post a new thread
> directly
> > > from
> > > > the www.oakiebenz.com site... Finally discovered that Java security
> > has
> > > > the
> > > > menu items that would allow that blocked.
> > > >
> > > > Anyone of the computer guru's here "splain" how I can reconfigure to
> > > post ?
> > > > I would be ever so grateful.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > "Das beste oder nichts." - *Gottlieb Daimler*
> > > ___
> > > 

Re: [MBZ] OT: Mexicans

[Joel Cairo via Mercedes]

That is an excellent description that is somewhat similar to what my 
niece explained, but more detail of the colonial mindset.  I can see 
that now.


We were in Costa Rica 3 or 4 years ago, we stayed a night at a nice 
little hotel compound not far from the airport as we had an early flight 
out the next morning.  We were having supper at their dining facility, 
out on the patio, and get talking to an older single guy at the table 
next to us.  He was a USAmerican, had lived in CR for some years, had a 
little finca on the east coast with a local family as the all-around 
caretakers, etc.  He had built them a little house for which they were 
most appreciative. At some point he gave them a coupla acres of his 10 
or 12, around the house for them to do their garden and animals and 
whatnot.  No big deal to him, they were still there, the land was still 
contiguous, he had plenty enough with the remainder, not that it really 
mattered whether it was his or theirs.  Anyway, he said these people 
were incredibly grateful and would do anything for him, they treated him 
almost as a god, which he found a bit uncomfortable but understood that 
what he had done was to give them something that they never imagined 
could happen.  He said that he had put the rest of the place in his will 
for them as his kids had no interest in it, so he figured that could 
propel them into another stage of land ownership, farming production, 
whatever.  I had not realized until then that land ownership for many 
people, even in CR which is pretty well developed politically, 
comparatively, was such a huge deal.


Our guide in Peru was telling us about his parents' farm.  We drove 
pretty close by when we were on the way from Cusco to where our trek 
started, it was in a beautiful area, a valley in the mountains, and he 
pointed out to us where it was.  It had been in the family for pretty 
much forever.  His parents had moved to Cusco some years ago as had most 
of the family, but they still went back for holidays and vacations.  The 
thing that distressed him was that there was no title to the land, it 
was just "known" to everyone that it belonged to his family as it had 
for ever how long.  But since they were not living there, the neighbors 
had begun to encroach on the property, taking a small field here and 
there, and there was not much to be done to stop it without being there 
to fight them off.  I thought that was quite interesting.


--R


On 6/7/16 11:25 AM, G Mann via Mercedes wrote:

Having spent much of my adult life traveling the world, with significant
portion of that into SA, I'll throw in my 0.02 cents worth.

All countries south of USA, Mexico included, are at their cultural
foundation, based on the Spanish rule model.

That Government model dictates there be an "Al Cald`e" who is all powerful
representing the direct wishes of the King of Spain. All others are
citizens of a lower class who must ask permission for everything.
This cultural pattern is ingrained into the people so deeply, even 3'd and
4'th generation latin americans who have lived in USA and were born here
still are not "self responsible" in a practical sense, compared to other
"Native Born Americans".  They still look to leadership for every decision,
rather than the American Citizen idea of "Self Rule".

Couple that with the law form used in all South American countries which is
based on Napoleonic Code rather than British Common Law Code. and you have
a continuation of the idea that "only rulers can made decisions" not
"empowered citizens".

This translates in the SA real world into things like land ownership, for
example.. The ruling class owns land and property.. everyone else works for
them.. generally speaking.. [there have been revolts in Mexico, for
example, which resulted in "private ownership of land" by peons.. but in
general principle.. the ruling class still "rules".

This cultural principle rules South America, while USA is all about the
individual Citizen having Rights.. which can't be infringed..

Well. in theory, at least.. recent regulations excepted.. IRS, EPA, et
al...


Virus-free

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On Tue, Jun 7, 2016 at 5:17 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:


Peru is not such a bad place relative to other SA countries.  The elder
Fujimori, while not the most up front "president" was definitely better
than your average SA dictator/despot.

He did a lot for social causes and really went after the Shining Path
(Maoist rebels) that terrorized the rural areas.  I got to meet him once
when a business associate I traveled SA with regularly arranged the
donation of some medical equipment to a rural hospital. We attended a state
dinner where the President honored 

Re: [MBZ] FP-K22MW21 pump kit

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

Not yet.  Everyone I knew retired and quit.  One guy drove MB DIesels, 
so I trusted him the most.  He always figured out how to get "Mercedes 
Only" parts through the Bosch system.  I don't even know where the 
nearest pup shop is.



Craig via Mercedes 
June 7, 2016 at 9:45 AMvia Postbox 


On Mon, 06 Jun 2016 22:51:43 -0500 Curley McLain via Mercedes

Have you tried talking with a Bosch injection pump shop?


Craig

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Curley McLain 
June 6, 2016 at 10:51 PMvia Postbox 

THe OM616/617NA transfer pump (lift pump) is Bosch FP-K22MW2  or ten 
digit 2 445 103 010.  MB never did provide a kit in the USA, and I 
don't now if Bosch ever did.  I am thinking in the RTW, that a kit may 
be available.  has anyone ever seen a kit or have foreign contacts to 
inquire about a kit for the pump?


Nothing turns up on fleabay except a pump body.  That is the one part 
I don't need.


The good news is that I took the 240D out tonight for a 2 mile run, 
and now it runs fine.  The apparent warning I had, but was unable to 
attribute to any cause, is that at idle, especially when cold, the 
engine would randomly miss at idle.  The pump seemed to function 
adequately at higher RPM, as on last thursday I ran it probably 60 
miles or so at highway speeds.  It is the opposite of a obstructed 
filter, or air leak which show up  first at high speed or starting.


I was able to pump up fuel easily with the hand primer.  It filled the 
hose to the filter and I bled the air out there, then tightened the 
new banjo fitting.  I have been hoarding new clear fuel lines since 
1999.  I put the one from the transfer pump to the filter on with the 
used pump.  Unfortunately the hand primer leaks when used.  THe 
original was ok I think.I may change that some day.


Has anyone seen exploded drawings of the pump or parts drawings?  I'd 
still like to figure out how they are made to see if I can repair the 
old ones.


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Re: [MBZ] OT: Mexicans

[G Mann via Mercedes]

Having spent much of my adult life traveling the world, with significant
portion of that into SA, I'll throw in my 0.02 cents worth.

All countries south of USA, Mexico included, are at their cultural
foundation, based on the Spanish rule model.

That Government model dictates there be an "Al Cald`e" who is all powerful
representing the direct wishes of the King of Spain. All others are
citizens of a lower class who must ask permission for everything.
This cultural pattern is ingrained into the people so deeply, even 3'd and
4'th generation latin americans who have lived in USA and were born here
still are not "self responsible" in a practical sense, compared to other
"Native Born Americans".  They still look to leadership for every decision,
rather than the American Citizen idea of "Self Rule".

Couple that with the law form used in all South American countries which is
based on Napoleonic Code rather than British Common Law Code. and you have
a continuation of the idea that "only rulers can made decisions" not
"empowered citizens".

This translates in the SA real world into things like land ownership, for
example.. The ruling class owns land and property.. everyone else works for
them.. generally speaking.. [there have been revolts in Mexico, for
example, which resulted in "private ownership of land" by peons.. but in
general principle.. the ruling class still "rules".

This cultural principle rules South America, while USA is all about the
individual Citizen having Rights.. which can't be infringed..

Well. in theory, at least.. recent regulations excepted.. IRS, EPA, et
al...


Virus-free

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On Tue, Jun 7, 2016 at 5:17 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Peru is not such a bad place relative to other SA countries.  The elder
> Fujimori, while not the most up front "president" was definitely better
> than your average SA dictator/despot.
>
> He did a lot for social causes and really went after the Shining Path
> (Maoist rebels) that terrorized the rural areas.  I got to meet him once
> when a business associate I traveled SA with regularly arranged the
> donation of some medical equipment to a rural hospital. We attended a state
> dinner where the President honored a bunch of people who supported local
> charities.  My buddy was a Peruaño and did a lot of logistical work for
> some charities in Milwaukee who supported rural medical care in Peru.
>
> Peru has a large number of Asians, much like Panama does. Not sure why,
> but the Asian community there was pretty significant from what I saw. In
> big cities like Lima it was pretty safe for Anglos, but if you got out into
> the rural areas you had a target on your back. The locals had no problems
> and were actually pretty cool (indigenous folks with the cool bowler hats
> and serapés) and neat to hang with, but the Shining Path guys were totally
> psycho and would kill foreigners without so much as a by your leave.  As a
> result it wasn't a good idea to go wandering around the countryside unless
> you were with a local.  The State Department pretty much said you were on
> your own if you left the city.
>
> Peru was a cool place to visit, and I always enjoyed my trips there. It
> helped that my buddy was a local, as he was able to navigate for us and
> knew his way around.  I'm not sure I would feel safe going there as a
> tourista.
>
> Dan
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> > On Jun 6, 2016, at 5:52 PM, Joel Cairo via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > I asked my niece that question in reference to SA countries, but Mexico
> is similar enough.  She was the resident expert on certain political and
> economic matters in a certain SA country for A Government Agency, so was
> probably as knowledgeable about such things as anyone could be.  She has a
> degree from Georgetown in International Relations, and a fair amount of
> training.  She has briefed presidents directly/personally on these matters.
> >
> > She thought about it a bit and attributed it to the effects of
> colonialism, in that the ruling classes of most LA countries are the
> descendants of the yurpeens, the Spanish specifically, and mostly
> white/mestizo not native and their attitudes towards the indigenos is not
> wildly different from colonial times 500 years ago.  That sorta made sense
> -- they have their status and wealth and really don't care that much about
> the rest.  In places where indigenos do get elected (I think Hugo in
> Venezuela and the guy in Bolivia?) they tend to go overboard the other way
> with the predictable results -- it gets even worse.
> >
> > Interestingly, we were just in Peru and the electioneering was going big
> time for the election yesterday.  They started out with 

Re: [MBZ] Don't these things usually sell for a lot more than this?

[Joel Cairo via Mercedes]

I have been using mine too, not a bad little device for the $50 I paid 
for it.  Mine is plugged into a ciggy port on the Sub, I'm not sure it 
is switched or not, it ran down the battery on the vehicle when I was 
gone and left it plugged in but turned off.  So now I just yank out the 
plug.


Did you have yours set up to look backwards?  Or just the forward view? 
I turned off the sound on mine.


On your email, you don't use a mail client for your emails?  Just off 
the web site?


--R


On 6/7/16 10:44 AM, G Mann via Mercedes wrote:

Yes Ed,
In all the years as a member on this site, I've never posted a thread, only
responded, because I have never been able to find a "post here" link from
the Home Page, if that's the right name for it.

I always just wrote it off as my own lack of "geekness" .. but now it seems
there is perhaps some structural issue that keeps it from allowing access?

Above my pay grade in any case..

About a month ago.. I bought and installed one of the Black Box dash
cameras we spoke about in a thread.. 4 days ago, while driving the speed
limit down a straight stretch of highway.. I got hit in the rear with
enough force to drive the car 1000 ft forward, across oncoming traffic,
into a block wall all now on video, because the camera was on when ever
the car was running.. Thought I would post a link of the crash, as it
happened, with sound from the built in mic in the camera, just so members
could see it..

The car that hit mine was totaled, mine can be repaired, maybe. The lawyers
and doctors are ecstatic at having it all on video. The police are very
convinced of my version of the event after viewing the video.
I think the camera just paid for it's self.

No joy on being able to post a thread.. Ohhh well. It will keep for now.

On Tue, Jun 7, 2016 at 4:42 AM, Ed Booher via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:


Also, the site https://www.okiebenz.com/ routes to an error page. Maybe
the
site doesn't have a proper certificate? The hosting company just gives the
generic "Contact the webmaster" page.

On Mon, Jun 6, 2016 at 3:09 PM, G Mann via Mercedes 

On Mon, Jun 6, 2016 at 4:23 AM, Ed Booher via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:


Making the assumption of Windows here. Java has a "Control Panel." If

you

hit the "Windows Key" or click the Start menu then type Java, one of

the

options should be "Configure Java." Once you have that control panel

open,

under the Security tab there is an Exception Site List. Sometimes

adding

the site to this list will help. If the site is secure (HTTPS / SSL)

then

you will need to open the site, and download a copy of the sites public
certificate. Below the Exception Site List there is a "Manage

Certificates"

button. Click this button, set the drop down to "Secure Site" and

Import

the site certificate.

Realistically a site that is just using Java menus should not have this
problem. What is the actual URL for posting a new thread from the

website?

I've not seen it before. However, I know I have to go through this with

all

my Cisco gear to run the Java built ASDM software. The software refuses

to

run if I haven't added the certificate from the ASA to the control

panel.

Didn't use to be this way, but every new revision of Java gets tighter
security B.S. because of all the backdoor software running rampant on

the

Net.

On Sun, Jun 5, 2016 at 2:05 PM, G Mann via Mercedes <

mercedes@okiebenz.com

wrote:


On another note.. I have never been able to post a new thread

directly

from

the www.oakiebenz.com site... Finally discovered that Java security

has

the
menu items that would allow that blocked.

Anyone of the computer guru's here "splain" how I can reconfigure to

post ?

I would be ever so grateful.



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Re: [MBZ] FP-K22MW21 pump kit

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Mon, 06 Jun 2016 22:51:43 -0500 Curley McLain via Mercedes
 wrote:

> Has anyone seen exploded drawings of the pump or parts drawings?  I'd 
> still like to figure out how they are made to see if I can repair the 
> old ones.

Have you tried talking with a Bosch injection pump shop?


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Don't these things usually sell for a lot more than this?

[G Mann via Mercedes]

Yes Ed,
In all the years as a member on this site, I've never posted a thread, only
responded, because I have never been able to find a "post here" link from
the Home Page, if that's the right name for it.

I always just wrote it off as my own lack of "geekness" .. but now it seems
there is perhaps some structural issue that keeps it from allowing access?

Above my pay grade in any case..

About a month ago.. I bought and installed one of the Black Box dash
cameras we spoke about in a thread.. 4 days ago, while driving the speed
limit down a straight stretch of highway.. I got hit in the rear with
enough force to drive the car 1000 ft forward, across oncoming traffic,
into a block wall all now on video, because the camera was on when ever
the car was running.. Thought I would post a link of the crash, as it
happened, with sound from the built in mic in the camera, just so members
could see it..

The car that hit mine was totaled, mine can be repaired, maybe. The lawyers
and doctors are ecstatic at having it all on video. The police are very
convinced of my version of the event after viewing the video.
I think the camera just paid for it's self.

No joy on being able to post a thread.. Ohhh well. It will keep for now.

On Tue, Jun 7, 2016 at 4:42 AM, Ed Booher via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Also, the site https://www.okiebenz.com/ routes to an error page. Maybe
> the
> site doesn't have a proper certificate? The hosting company just gives the
> generic "Contact the webmaster" page.
>
> On Mon, Jun 6, 2016 at 3:09 PM, G Mann via Mercedes  >
> wrote:
>
> > Thanks heaps for your response.. I'm "computer challenged" in PC speak..
> so
> > all direction gladly accepted.
> >
> > The issue "seems to be" that the site address is http://.
> www.oakiebenz.com
> > which Java will not accept because it is not "https" thus, in Java wisdom
> > not a secure site and verboten..
> >
> > Because Java will not allow the site to fully open, all the "click here"
> > boxes on the opening page remain empty, or non responsive.. thus, I'm
> > blocked from access to them.. what ever they are.. All I get is the open
> > page welcoming me to OakieBenz with a nice picture of a Merc..
> >
> > Stumped and Stupid... seems to about cover it.. ;))
> >
> > <
> >
> https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email_source=link_campaign=sig-email_content=webmail_term=icon
> > >
> > Virus-free.
> > www.avast.com
> > <
> >
> https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email_source=link_campaign=sig-email_content=webmail_term=link
> > >
> > <#DDB4FAA8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2>
> >
> > On Mon, Jun 6, 2016 at 4:23 AM, Ed Booher via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Making the assumption of Windows here. Java has a "Control Panel." If
> you
> > > hit the "Windows Key" or click the Start menu then type Java, one of
> the
> > > options should be "Configure Java." Once you have that control panel
> > open,
> > > under the Security tab there is an Exception Site List. Sometimes
> adding
> > > the site to this list will help. If the site is secure (HTTPS / SSL)
> then
> > > you will need to open the site, and download a copy of the sites public
> > > certificate. Below the Exception Site List there is a "Manage
> > Certificates"
> > > button. Click this button, set the drop down to "Secure Site" and
> Import
> > > the site certificate.
> > >
> > > Realistically a site that is just using Java menus should not have this
> > > problem. What is the actual URL for posting a new thread from the
> > website?
> > > I've not seen it before. However, I know I have to go through this with
> > all
> > > my Cisco gear to run the Java built ASDM software. The software refuses
> > to
> > > run if I haven't added the certificate from the ASA to the control
> panel.
> > > Didn't use to be this way, but every new revision of Java gets tighter
> > > security B.S. because of all the backdoor software running rampant on
> the
> > > Net.
> > >
> > > On Sun, Jun 5, 2016 at 2:05 PM, G Mann via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com
> > > >
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > On another note.. I have never been able to post a new thread
> directly
> > > from
> > > > the www.oakiebenz.com site... Finally discovered that Java security
> > has
> > > > the
> > > > menu items that would allow that blocked.
> > > >
> > > > Anyone of the computer guru's here "splain" how I can reconfigure to
> > > post ?
> > > > I would be ever so grateful.
> > >
> > >
> > >
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Mexicans now Peruvians

[Joel Cairo via Mercedes]

When we did the Machu Picchu tre 13 yr ago our guide was telling us that 
the Shining Path were still somewhat active in the mountains but that 
the Inca trail we were on was fairly safe. Some years prior the traffic 
had dropped considerably as they were around.  I guess that was 
comforting though being way back in the mountains not too close to 
"civilization" was somewhat concerning in that regard.  We went at that 
time to Puerto Maldonado in the forest, headwaters of the Amazon, and it 
was the Wild West out there.  They have a road built out there now so it 
has become somewhat more "civilized" for what that is worth, but our 
guide this time was saying there are some SPs still running around out 
there too but they are not much of a factor.


The election is still undecided, this morning the gap was 50k votes out 
of millions, they are counting absentees.  Both candidates seem like 
they would be somewhat similar, though the Fujimori woman has been much 
more visible out in the countryside, visiting little towns and people 
all over so she is something of a populist.  PPK is a bit more of an 
elite, but a smart guy, both have US educations and are pretty smart.  I 
hope it works out for them, they seem to be on the right path.


--R


On 6/7/16 8:17 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

Peru is not such a bad place relative to other SA countries.  The elder Fujimori, while 
not the most up front "president" was definitely better than your average SA 
dictator/despot.

He did a lot for social causes and really went after the Shining Path (Maoist 
rebels) that terrorized the rural areas.  I got to meet him once when a 
business associate I traveled SA with regularly arranged the donation of some 
medical equipment to a rural hospital. We attended a state dinner where the 
President honored a bunch of people who supported local charities.  My buddy 
was a Peruaño and did a lot of logistical work for some charities in Milwaukee 
who supported rural medical care in Peru.

Peru has a large number of Asians, much like Panama does. Not sure why, but the 
Asian community there was pretty significant from what I saw. In big cities 
like Lima it was pretty safe for Anglos, but if you got out into the rural 
areas you had a target on your back. The locals had no problems and were 
actually pretty cool (indigenous folks with the cool bowler hats and serapés) 
and neat to hang with, but the Shining Path guys were totally psycho and would 
kill foreigners without so much as a by your leave.  As a result it wasn't a 
good idea to go wandering around the countryside unless you were with a local.  
The State Department pretty much said you were on your own if you left the city.

Peru was a cool place to visit, and I always enjoyed my trips there. It helped 
that my buddy was a local, as he was able to navigate for us and knew his way 
around.  I'm not sure I would feel safe going there as a tourista.

Dan

Sent from my iPad


On Jun 6, 2016, at 5:52 PM, Joel Cairo via Mercedes  
wrote:

I asked my niece that question in reference to SA countries, but Mexico is 
similar enough.  She was the resident expert on certain political and economic 
matters in a certain SA country for A Government Agency, so was probably as 
knowledgeable about such things as anyone could be.  She has a degree from 
Georgetown in International Relations, and a fair amount of training.  She has 
briefed presidents directly/personally on these matters.

She thought about it a bit and attributed it to the effects of colonialism, in 
that the ruling classes of most LA countries are the descendants of the 
yurpeens, the Spanish specifically, and mostly white/mestizo not native and 
their attitudes towards the indigenos is not wildly different from colonial 
times 500 years ago.  That sorta made sense -- they have their status and 
wealth and really don't care that much about the rest.  In places where 
indigenos do get elected (I think Hugo in Venezuela and the guy in Bolivia?) 
they tend to go overboard the other way with the predictable results -- it gets 
even worse.

Interestingly, we were just in Peru and the electioneering was going big time 
for the election yesterday.  They started out with something like 30 
candidates, it got winnowed down to 2, Fujimori and Kuczinski (sp?), both 
right-center candidates and obviously neither has an indigeno name, not even a 
Spanish name.  I'm still not sure which got elected as last I heard it was 
50.5-49.5 for K.  In any case, Peru has been fairly right of center, and their 
economy has been going pretty well, and from what I saw it did not have the 
really bad poverty you see in Mexico and some other countries, though most 
people would not be wealthy by any means. The Fujimori candidate is the 
daughter of a former president, now in prison, who went a bit too far after 
eradicating the communist Shining Path uprising, which people are still 
grateful for though a few remain 

Re: [MBZ] Tropical Storm Colin

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

We are still getting significant rain after the storm passed through. Driving 
in to work ties morning was pretty exciting.

Dan

Sent from my iPad

> On Jun 7, 2016, at 8:24 AM, Joel Cairo via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> 9.5ft which puts us 2.1ft above the generally highest tide level (7.4ft).
> 
> The storm actually passed offshore, the rain mostly stopped before the main 
> part of the storm went past.  But we got a lot of rain yesterday ahead of it.
> 
> --JC
> 
> 
>> On 6/6/16 10:12 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote:
>> What's your elevation AMSL, "Rich"?
>> 
>> On Mon, Jun 6, 2016 at 9:01 PM, Joel Cairo via Mercedes 
>> > wrote:
>> 
>>We have had pretty significant rain most of the day, forecast is
>>for it to pass over my vast estate late tonight/early morning.
>>Main problem is that we will have very high tides tonight and
>>tomorrow so Charleston will probably be fairly flooded and there
>>will be beach erosion.  No wind here now, will see if that picks
>>up later.  Tide was very high around noon, night tide is usually
>>even higher, but there had not yet been too much rain.
>> 
>>The City opened all the parking garages for residents to move
>>their cars, last fall a good part of the city was under a fair
>>amount of water in that storm.
>> 
>>--R
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>On 6/6/16 8:50 PM, archer75--- via Mercedes wrote:
>> 
>>Tropical Storm Colin heading for Georgia and the Carolinas
>>coast, and points north. 50 mph winds so far.
>> 
>>
>> http://www.upi.com/Top_News/US/2016/06/06/Emergency-declared-in-Florida-ahead-of-Tropical-Storm-Colin/7421465233982/?spt=hts=2
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Tropical Storm Colin

[Joel Cairo via Mercedes]

9.5ft which puts us 2.1ft above the generally highest tide level (7.4ft).

The storm actually passed offshore, the rain mostly stopped before the 
main part of the storm went past.  But we got a lot of rain yesterday 
ahead of it.


--JC


On 6/6/16 10:12 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote:

What's your elevation AMSL, "Rich"?

On Mon, Jun 6, 2016 at 9:01 PM, Joel Cairo via Mercedes 
> wrote:


We have had pretty significant rain most of the day, forecast is
for it to pass over my vast estate late tonight/early morning.
Main problem is that we will have very high tides tonight and
tomorrow so Charleston will probably be fairly flooded and there
will be beach erosion.  No wind here now, will see if that picks
up later.  Tide was very high around noon, night tide is usually
even higher, but there had not yet been too much rain.

The City opened all the parking garages for residents to move
their cars, last fall a good part of the city was under a fair
amount of water in that storm.

--R



On 6/6/16 8:50 PM, archer75--- via Mercedes wrote:

Tropical Storm Colin heading for Georgia and the Carolinas
coast, and points north. 50 mph winds so far.


http://www.upi.com/Top_News/US/2016/06/06/Emergency-declared-in-Florida-ahead-of-Tropical-Storm-Colin/7421465233982/?spt=hts=2

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Mexicans

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Peru is not such a bad place relative to other SA countries.  The elder 
Fujimori, while not the most up front "president" was definitely better than 
your average SA dictator/despot.

He did a lot for social causes and really went after the Shining Path (Maoist 
rebels) that terrorized the rural areas.  I got to meet him once when a 
business associate I traveled SA with regularly arranged the donation of some 
medical equipment to a rural hospital. We attended a state dinner where the 
President honored a bunch of people who supported local charities.  My buddy 
was a Peruaño and did a lot of logistical work for some charities in Milwaukee 
who supported rural medical care in Peru.

Peru has a large number of Asians, much like Panama does. Not sure why, but the 
Asian community there was pretty significant from what I saw. In big cities 
like Lima it was pretty safe for Anglos, but if you got out into the rural 
areas you had a target on your back. The locals had no problems and were 
actually pretty cool (indigenous folks with the cool bowler hats and serapés) 
and neat to hang with, but the Shining Path guys were totally psycho and would 
kill foreigners without so much as a by your leave.  As a result it wasn't a 
good idea to go wandering around the countryside unless you were with a local.  
The State Department pretty much said you were on your own if you left the city.

Peru was a cool place to visit, and I always enjoyed my trips there. It helped 
that my buddy was a local, as he was able to navigate for us and knew his way 
around.  I'm not sure I would feel safe going there as a tourista.

Dan

Sent from my iPad

> On Jun 6, 2016, at 5:52 PM, Joel Cairo via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> I asked my niece that question in reference to SA countries, but Mexico is 
> similar enough.  She was the resident expert on certain political and 
> economic matters in a certain SA country for A Government Agency, so was 
> probably as knowledgeable about such things as anyone could be.  She has a 
> degree from Georgetown in International Relations, and a fair amount of 
> training.  She has briefed presidents directly/personally on these matters.
> 
> She thought about it a bit and attributed it to the effects of colonialism, 
> in that the ruling classes of most LA countries are the descendants of the 
> yurpeens, the Spanish specifically, and mostly white/mestizo not native and 
> their attitudes towards the indigenos is not wildly different from colonial 
> times 500 years ago.  That sorta made sense -- they have their status and 
> wealth and really don't care that much about the rest.  In places where 
> indigenos do get elected (I think Hugo in Venezuela and the guy in Bolivia?) 
> they tend to go overboard the other way with the predictable results -- it 
> gets even worse.
> 
> Interestingly, we were just in Peru and the electioneering was going big time 
> for the election yesterday.  They started out with something like 30 
> candidates, it got winnowed down to 2, Fujimori and Kuczinski (sp?), both 
> right-center candidates and obviously neither has an indigeno name, not even 
> a Spanish name.  I'm still not sure which got elected as last I heard it was 
> 50.5-49.5 for K.  In any case, Peru has been fairly right of center, and 
> their economy has been going pretty well, and from what I saw it did not have 
> the really bad poverty you see in Mexico and some other countries, though 
> most people would not be wealthy by any means. The Fujimori candidate is the 
> daughter of a former president, now in prison, who went a bit too far after 
> eradicating the communist Shining Path uprising, which people are still 
> grateful for though a few remain back in the mountains and in the forests 
> causing trouble.
> 
> Some countries are starting to get their acts organized though Argentina 
> keeps regressing every 10-15yr or so.  Chile is doing well, as I think is 
> Colombia, mostly, after the bad times with the drug trade.  Brazil is 
> starting to slow down after some good growth.  Costa Rica and Panama are 
> doing pretty well.  Ecuador could but their idiot presidente keeps trying to 
> screw things up with socialismo to appeal to the lower classes.  It seems 
> that the ones doing well adopt some US-style reforms and the leaders take 
> some interest in the general welfare and actually 


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Re: [MBZ] Don't these things usually sell for a lot more than this?

[Ed Booher via Mercedes]

Also, the site https://www.okiebenz.com/ routes to an error page. Maybe the
site doesn't have a proper certificate? The hosting company just gives the
generic "Contact the webmaster" page.

On Mon, Jun 6, 2016 at 3:09 PM, G Mann via Mercedes 
wrote:

> Thanks heaps for your response.. I'm "computer challenged" in PC speak.. so
> all direction gladly accepted.
>
> The issue "seems to be" that the site address is http://.www.oakiebenz.com
> which Java will not accept because it is not "https" thus, in Java wisdom
> not a secure site and verboten..
>
> Because Java will not allow the site to fully open, all the "click here"
> boxes on the opening page remain empty, or non responsive.. thus, I'm
> blocked from access to them.. what ever they are.. All I get is the open
> page welcoming me to OakieBenz with a nice picture of a Merc..
>
> Stumped and Stupid... seems to about cover it.. ;))
>
> <
> https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email_source=link_campaign=sig-email_content=webmail_term=icon
> >
> Virus-free.
> www.avast.com
> <
> https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email_source=link_campaign=sig-email_content=webmail_term=link
> >
> <#DDB4FAA8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2>
>
> On Mon, Jun 6, 2016 at 4:23 AM, Ed Booher via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> > Making the assumption of Windows here. Java has a "Control Panel." If you
> > hit the "Windows Key" or click the Start menu then type Java, one of the
> > options should be "Configure Java." Once you have that control panel
> open,
> > under the Security tab there is an Exception Site List. Sometimes adding
> > the site to this list will help. If the site is secure (HTTPS / SSL) then
> > you will need to open the site, and download a copy of the sites public
> > certificate. Below the Exception Site List there is a "Manage
> Certificates"
> > button. Click this button, set the drop down to "Secure Site" and Import
> > the site certificate.
> >
> > Realistically a site that is just using Java menus should not have this
> > problem. What is the actual URL for posting a new thread from the
> website?
> > I've not seen it before. However, I know I have to go through this with
> all
> > my Cisco gear to run the Java built ASDM software. The software refuses
> to
> > run if I haven't added the certificate from the ASA to the control panel.
> > Didn't use to be this way, but every new revision of Java gets tighter
> > security B.S. because of all the backdoor software running rampant on the
> > Net.
> >
> > On Sun, Jun 5, 2016 at 2:05 PM, G Mann via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com
> > >
> > wrote:
> >
> > > On another note.. I have never been able to post a new thread directly
> > from
> > > the www.oakiebenz.com site... Finally discovered that Java security
> has
> > > the
> > > menu items that would allow that blocked.
> > >
> > > Anyone of the computer guru's here "splain" how I can reconfigure to
> > post ?
> > > I would be ever so grateful.
> >
> >
> >
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Re: [MBZ] Don't these things usually sell for a lot more than this?

[Ed Booher via Mercedes]

There are menus on that page? I am unable to see them as well.

On Mon, Jun 6, 2016 at 3:09 PM, G Mann via Mercedes 
wrote:

> Thanks heaps for your response.. I'm "computer challenged" in PC speak.. so
> all direction gladly accepted.
>
> The issue "seems to be" that the site address is http://.www.oakiebenz.com
> which Java will not accept because it is not "https" thus, in Java wisdom
> not a secure site and verboten..
>
> Because Java will not allow the site to fully open, all the "click here"
> boxes on the opening page remain empty, or non responsive.. thus, I'm
> blocked from access to them.. what ever they are.. All I get is the open
> page welcoming me to OakieBenz with a nice picture of a Merc..
>
> Stumped and Stupid... seems to about cover it.. ;))
>
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> On Mon, Jun 6, 2016 at 4:23 AM, Ed Booher via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> > Making the assumption of Windows here. Java has a "Control Panel." If you
> > hit the "Windows Key" or click the Start menu then type Java, one of the
> > options should be "Configure Java." Once you have that control panel
> open,
> > under the Security tab there is an Exception Site List. Sometimes adding
> > the site to this list will help. If the site is secure (HTTPS / SSL) then
> > you will need to open the site, and download a copy of the sites public
> > certificate. Below the Exception Site List there is a "Manage
> Certificates"
> > button. Click this button, set the drop down to "Secure Site" and Import
> > the site certificate.
> >
> > Realistically a site that is just using Java menus should not have this
> > problem. What is the actual URL for posting a new thread from the
> website?
> > I've not seen it before. However, I know I have to go through this with
> all
> > my Cisco gear to run the Java built ASDM software. The software refuses
> to
> > run if I haven't added the certificate from the ASA to the control panel.
> > Didn't use to be this way, but every new revision of Java gets tighter
> > security B.S. because of all the backdoor software running rampant on the
> > Net.
> >
> > On Sun, Jun 5, 2016 at 2:05 PM, G Mann via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com
> > >
> > wrote:
> >
> > > On another note.. I have never been able to post a new thread directly
> > from
> > > the www.oakiebenz.com site... Finally discovered that Java security
> has
> > > the
> > > menu items that would allow that blocked.
> > >
> > > Anyone of the computer guru's here "splain" how I can reconfigure to
> > post ?
> > > I would be ever so grateful.
> >
> >
> >
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Re: [MBZ] OT: I'm back!

[fmiser via Mercedes]

> > Curley wrote:
> >
> > waytago!  for the 12v conversion.  I did that last year on my
> >> H,
> > after much soul searching about keeping it original.  Did you
> > use the small Japanee alternator that fits under the hood?  With
> > period wiring and wire loom, it still looks original except for
> > the new red light on the control panel with the headllight
> > switch.  it is an idiot light that doubles as the exciter
> > circuit for the alt. 

> Curt wrote:
> 
> Yeah we used the 1 wire Delco,

> Ours has an inline gizmo so no light to excite the
> alternator, sano...

A one-wire Delco typically has a special self-exiting regulator.
Usually this requires at least 2000-3000 RPM (at the alternator) to
"trigger" the self-excitation and start working.  2, or 3 wire will
work at much lower RPM.

I prefer the 3 wire.  Set up correctly with the remote voltage
sensing for the regulator connected to the main feedpoint for the
rest of the electrical system, the battery will get properly
changed even if there is a heavy electrical load elsewhere.  And
the "idiot" ALT light on the dash is much more accurate than the
ammeter with regard to identifying when the alternator isn't
working right.

I really do like the Delco "si" alternators (10, 12, 15, 17, etc).
'Haven't used one to replace a Bosch yet...

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