Re: [MBZ] Opinions on Eastwood Cobra torch?

[G Mann via Mercedes]

Apparently Eastwood bought out an earlier manufacturer. I first used the
original version over 45 years ago and bought it on the spot at a
manufacturers tent display at Oshkosh EAA flyin.
Owned and used it with all the deluxe attachments that came with it or were
available later. Absolutely loved it.
Would still have it except it was part of a $500,000 tool robbery where I
lost a lifetime of tools, Have not gotten around to replacing it... looks
like Eastwood will now be on my call list.

Very precise torch work possible with this system. Wonderful for thin gage
car body work. Not cheap, but good tools never are.

On Tue, Jul 21, 2020 at 8:31 PM Allan Streib via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Anyone seen this video, or better yet have experience with this torch?
>
> Looks like a very nice way to weld or braze, but then again, it's an ad.
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0kdSwyZRctQ
>
> Allan
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[MBZ] Opinions on Eastwood Cobra torch?

[Allan Streib via Mercedes]

Anyone seen this video, or better yet have experience with this torch?

Looks like a very nice way to weld or braze, but then again, it's an ad.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0kdSwyZRctQ

Allan

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Thermal solar in Oz

[Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes]

Most likely some sort of salt, might have sodium in it but you’d have to 
careful about decomposition 

--FT
Sent from iPhone

> On Jul 21, 2020, at 10:32 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Is it molten salt or liquid sodium? Big difference, especially if
> there's any chance of exposure to water.
> 
> Allan
> 
> Floyd Thursby via Mercedes  writes:
> 
>> Yeah those molten salts can hold a tremendous amount of heat in the heat 
>> of fusion but they are also quite corrosive, so there's that too.
>> 
>> I have to remember those laws...
>> 
>> 1. You can't win
>> 
>> {\displaystyle \Delta U_{\rm {system}}=Q-W}
>> 
>> 2. You can't break even
>> 
>> \delta Q=T\,dS\,.
>> 
>> 3. You can't get out of the game
>> 
>> S=k_{\mathrm {B} }\,\mathrm {ln} \,\Omega
>> 
>> --FT
>> 
>> 
>>> On 7/21/20 2:16 PM, G Mann via Mercedes wrote:
>>> Correct. The premise is the liquid sodium [salt solution] is heated to a
>>> very high temperature and stored in a thermal container which holds the
>>> heat until release.  During the heating day, the solution is circulated
>>> from the heating grid [sun collection device] to the container in
>>> continuous loop [much like solar hot water heater systems, for example].
>>> 
>>> At sundown, the PV panels drop off line, and the thermal container hot
>>> liquid is used to heat what is in practical sense, a steam boiler which
>>> drives turbines which drive generators.
>>> 
>>> We have had two pilot systems built here in Arizona [another solar capital
>>> of the world for sunshine] at HUGE investment dollars.. both failed to
>>> produce enough electricity to make a return on investment.
>>> I'm sure some lessons were learned by their failure. Perhaps improvements
>>> are here and this one can actually work with a practical ROI.  If it
>>> doesn't make its own money and the public funds run out... projects like
>>> this die...always.
>>> 
>>> On Tue, Jul 21, 2020 at 11:00 AM Craig via Mercedes 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
 On Tue, 21 Jul 2020 12:52:22 -0500 OK Don via Mercedes
  wrote:
 
> How do they make electricity from the stored heat??? Sounds complex to
> me.
 Boiler and steam turbine.
 
 
 Craig
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Re: [MBZ] Dryer knob and shaft stripped

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

No, don't epoxy metal to shaft.  Only epoxy metal to knob.

Max Dillon
Charleston SC

Jul 21, 2020 8:59:28 PM Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes :

> So would you epoxy the metal into the slot on the shaft first, then coat it 
> with grease and then affix the epoxy filled and slotted knob?
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jul 21, 2020, at 6:32 PM, OK Don via Mercedes  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> I just had to do a similar repair on the wife's coffee grinder. I'd cut a
>> slot in the shaft, insert a small piece of metal that's wider than the
>> shaft creating wings that you can grab with the knob. Coat the shaft and
>> wings with oil, grease, or mold release. Cut slots for the wings in the
>> knob, fill it up with a good amount of Permatex Plastic Epoxy, and set it
>> in place. It will likely last longer than the rest of the dryer.
>> 
>>> On Tue, Jul 21, 2020 at 2:26 PM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> yeah just glue it up and if it ever breaks again cut it off and buy a
>>> new one.  A used dryer would probably be cheaper than the part,
>>> unfortunately, or maybe a used appliance shop would have one for a few
>>> dineros
>>> 
>>> --FT
>>> 
 On 7/21/20 3:07 PM, Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes wrote:
 I have a GE dryer with a plastic knob where the housing that slides over
>>> the timer shaft has cracked. As a result, it wore down the d shaped plastic
>>> shaft and now the knob slips on the shaft. Only way to turn it is with
>>> pliers but then you can’t know where in the cycle you are and this is a
>>> rental property so my tenants probably won’t go for this. The parts alone
>>> plus shipping will cost close to $100. Is there any way around this? Epoxy?
 
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>> pause and reflect." Mark Twain
>> 
>> “Basic research is what I’m doing when I don’t know what I am doing.”  
>> Wernher
>> Von Braun
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Thermal solar in Oz

[Allan Streib via Mercedes]

Is it molten salt or liquid sodium? Big difference, especially if
there's any chance of exposure to water.

Allan

Floyd Thursby via Mercedes  writes:

> Yeah those molten salts can hold a tremendous amount of heat in the heat 
> of fusion but they are also quite corrosive, so there's that too.
>
> I have to remember those laws...
>
> 1. You can't win
>
> {\displaystyle \Delta U_{\rm {system}}=Q-W}
>
> 2. You can't break even
>
> \delta Q=T\,dS\,.
>
> 3. You can't get out of the game
>
> S=k_{\mathrm {B} }\,\mathrm {ln} \,\Omega
>
> --FT
>
>
> On 7/21/20 2:16 PM, G Mann via Mercedes wrote:
>> Correct. The premise is the liquid sodium [salt solution] is heated to a
>> very high temperature and stored in a thermal container which holds the
>> heat until release.  During the heating day, the solution is circulated
>> from the heating grid [sun collection device] to the container in
>> continuous loop [much like solar hot water heater systems, for example].
>>
>> At sundown, the PV panels drop off line, and the thermal container hot
>> liquid is used to heat what is in practical sense, a steam boiler which
>> drives turbines which drive generators.
>>
>> We have had two pilot systems built here in Arizona [another solar capital
>> of the world for sunshine] at HUGE investment dollars.. both failed to
>> produce enough electricity to make a return on investment.
>> I'm sure some lessons were learned by their failure. Perhaps improvements
>> are here and this one can actually work with a practical ROI.  If it
>> doesn't make its own money and the public funds run out... projects like
>> this die...always.
>>
>> On Tue, Jul 21, 2020 at 11:00 AM Craig via Mercedes 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On Tue, 21 Jul 2020 12:52:22 -0500 OK Don via Mercedes
>>>  wrote:
>>>
 How do they make electricity from the stored heat??? Sounds complex to
 me.
>>> Boiler and steam turbine.
>>>
>>>
>>> Craig

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Growing solar waste

[Clay via Mercedes]

Komo4 has a good series on Seattle is dying exposes.  Probably lost interest in 
that with the plague and riots.  Seems the weather is very interesting this 
week instead of stories detailing the multiple shootings taking place daily.  
Best not to think about the impact of reducing law enforcement by 50% while you 
can spin heat and sun stories.  

clay 

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> On Jul 21, 2020, at 3:51 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes  
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> 
> I've lost a lot of respect for local TV news outlets in the last couple of
> months. Like King5 in Seattle, you can look at their YouTube account and
> while the video feed is showing a genuine riot, the news anchor is
> explaining how it's all just a peaceful protest...look, lady, are you
> talking about the same event you're showing us? Because if you are, you're
> outing yourself as a liar.
> 
> On Tue, July 21, 2020 7:33 pm, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
>> Point well taken.
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Dryer knob and shaft stripped

[Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes]

So would you epoxy the metal into the slot on the shaft first, then coat it 
with grease and then affix the epoxy filled and slotted knob?

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 21, 2020, at 6:32 PM, OK Don via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> I just had to do a similar repair on the wife's coffee grinder. I'd cut a
> slot in the shaft, insert a small piece of metal that's wider than the
> shaft creating wings that you can grab with the knob. Coat the shaft and
> wings with oil, grease, or mold release. Cut slots for the wings in the
> knob, fill it up with a good amount of Permatex Plastic Epoxy, and set it
> in place. It will likely last longer than the rest of the dryer.
> 
>> On Tue, Jul 21, 2020 at 2:26 PM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>> yeah just glue it up and if it ever breaks again cut it off and buy a
>> new one.  A used dryer would probably be cheaper than the part,
>> unfortunately, or maybe a used appliance shop would have one for a few
>> dineros
>> 
>> --FT
>> 
>>> On 7/21/20 3:07 PM, Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes wrote:
>>> I have a GE dryer with a plastic knob where the housing that slides over
>> the timer shaft has cracked. As a result, it wore down the d shaped plastic
>> shaft and now the knob slips on the shaft. Only way to turn it is with
>> pliers but then you can’t know where in the cycle you are and this is a
>> rental property so my tenants probably won’t go for this. The parts alone
>> plus shipping will cost close to $100. Is there any way around this? Epoxy?
>>> 
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> 
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> pause and reflect." Mark Twain
> 
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> Von Braun
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Re: [MBZ] Dryer knob and shaft stripped

[OK Don via Mercedes]

That's what the oil, grease, mold release agent is for - so the knob isn't
glued to the shaft and can be removed. It worked on the coffee grinder.

On Tue, Jul 21, 2020 at 7:36 PM Jim Cathey via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> I like the slotting idea, along with some glue to fill the gaps, but
> arranged so
> that it will pull off again.  Take a shot anyway, if it ends up
> perma-glued you can
> always destroy it next time it needs to come apart.
>
> -- Jim
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Re: [MBZ] Dryer knob and shaft stripped

[Jim Cathey via Mercedes]

I like the slotting idea, along with some glue to fill the gaps, but arranged so
that it will pull off again.  Take a shot anyway, if it ends up perma-glued you 
can
always destroy it next time it needs to come apart.

-- Jim


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[MBZ] OT: Teslas are too slow

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

Maybe I should buy an e-Mustang instead.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y3846KFDmFQ

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Growing solar waste

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

I've lost a lot of respect for local TV news outlets in the last couple of
months. Like King5 in Seattle, you can look at their YouTube account and
while the video feed is showing a genuine riot, the news anchor is
explaining how it's all just a peaceful protest...look, lady, are you
talking about the same event you're showing us? Because if you are, you're
outing yourself as a liar.

On Tue, July 21, 2020 7:33 pm, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
> Point well taken.


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Re: [MBZ] Outstanding in its field -- Kilo Graham

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Because many of them were junk and soulless.

-D

> On Jul 21, 2020, at 1:34 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> What is it about Mercedes models of the early 2000s?  They seem to retain
> almost no market value, with exception of SLs.
> 
> On Tue, Jul 21, 2020 at 12:58 PM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/1956154621152995/
>> 
>> 2001 Mercedes-Benz CLK-Class · CLK 430 Coupe 2D
>> $1,000
>> Vehicles 
>> Listed 48 weeks ago in Gaston, SC
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>How This Price Compares…
>> 
>> 
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>>> 
>>Private Party Value
>> 
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>> 
>> 
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>> 
>> Price range for similar Mercedes-Benz CLK-Class in fair condition · How
>> It's Calculated 
>> 
>> 
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>> 
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>> Automatic transmission
>> Exterior color: Black · Interior color: Black
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>> Fair condition 
>> 
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>> 
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Thermal solar in Oz

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

All the lobster you can eat…the Fox Islands. Yum!

Spooling up a stationary steam turbine if kept in the standby mode only takes a 
few hours at most, and a lot of that is based on how much load you’re going to 
expect out of it once it comes online. That is, they could easily maintain the 
turbines in standby and spool them up as the sun goes down, load sharing as the 
load gradually shifts from solar to steam. This is not rocket science by any 
means.

-D

> On Jul 21, 2020, at 6:04 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> The boiling point of sodium is more than 1600F so the energy stored in the 
> liquid sodium would be enough to keep boiling water to make steam for a 
> substantial period even after the sun went down.I would assume (dangerous of 
> course) that the production of steam would be a 24 hour deal with the daytime 
> hours capturing more energy than could be used at that time to be used later 
> when the sun went down.
> Its one of those interesting ideas that might be great in remote places where 
> small scale production is expensive. One of my Dad's friends just retired as 
> the electricity manager for the island of Vynalhaven. He told us that 20 
> years ago they'd be shipping in 2500 gallons of diesel fuel every other day 
> to supply power for the island. Today that same shipment lasts them a week as 
> most of their daytime power is solar and wind with the diesel plant only 
> supplementing. The goal is to never burn diesel (or not much anyway) during 
> the day and ideally not a ton at night. The local electricity rates have come 
> down something like 60% since theres basically no maintenance on the solar.
> -Curt
> 
>On Tuesday, July 21, 2020, 5:56:10 PM EDT, G Mann via Mercedes 
>  wrote:  
> 
> Since the system is designed to focus sun energy into a solar furnace, the
> boiler portion of the system "should" be setting at operational
> temperature. [except on cloud cover days, of course].
> 
> Since sunset is a known event, safe presumption would be that prior to
> sunset, the steam pressure would be at operational setting for the nights
> run of the turbine generators.
> 
> Plan ahead, get ahead...
> [except for operational energy losses at every transfer of energy.]
> 
> 
> 
> On Tue, Jul 21, 2020 at 1:15 PM Max Dillon via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> Well a 1200lb steam plant on a US Navy ship required about 24 hours to be
>> brought online from stone cold, but that can be significantly shortened if
>> you don't let it get stone cold.  I would imagine that they would figure a
>> way to keep the steam side hot enough so very little time, like 30 minutes
>> or less world be needed.  Unlike a ship burning bunker oil, molten salt is
>> not producing pollution when in use, so maybe they keep the steam side at
>> full temp all day, but just keep the turbines off line until needed.  Bleed
>> enough steam through the turbines to keep them hot enough to accept a full
>> load of steam nearly instantly.
>> 
>> Jul 21, 2020 2:43:37 PM Mitch Haley via Mercedes :
>>> 
>>> And how long does it take to fire up and shut down the steam turbines?
>>> 
>>> Mitch.
>>> 
>> 
>> Max Dillon
>> Charleston SC
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Growing solar waste

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Point well taken.

-D

> On Jul 21, 2020, at 6:48 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> I can't figure out how The Onion and Babylon Bee stay in business, with
> all the competition from CNN, MSNBC, New York Times and in recent years
> CBS, NBC, ABC, Washington Post, etc, etc.
> 
> Mitch.
> 
> On Tue, July 21, 2020 6:34 pm, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:
>> Ugh, its hard to tell the real news from the fake news.Actually I'm not
>> so sure it isn't all fake news.
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Growing solar waste

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

I can't figure out how The Onion and Babylon Bee stay in business, with
all the competition from CNN, MSNBC, New York Times and in recent years
CBS, NBC, ABC, Washington Post, etc, etc.

Mitch.

On Tue, July 21, 2020 6:34 pm, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:
> Ugh, its hard to tell the real news from the fake news.Actually I'm not
> so sure it isn't all fake news.


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Re: [MBZ] OT: Growing solar waste

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Follow the money ...

On Tue, Jul 21, 2020 at 5:35 PM Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
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>  Ugh, its hard to tell the real news from the fake news.Actually I'm not
> so sure it isn't all fake news.
>
> -Curt
>
> On Tuesday, July 21, 2020, 6:26:07 PM EDT, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
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>
>  Is making controversy where none exists what the world is all about these
> days?
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Jul 21, 2020, at 3:06 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> >  And although solar panels do have an effective "lifespan" they aren't
> garbage at the end of it all that happens is the efficiency decreases,
> they'll work for decades (at least) afterward. There is actually a big
> trade in used solar panels. Whoever wrote that article doesn't really know
> what they're talking about and is trying to make controversy where none
> exists.
> > -Curt
> >
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> >
> > Aren't they basically aluminum, iron, copper and sand?
> > The glass and the wafers are what I'm calling sand.
> > Mitch.
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Growing solar waste

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

 Ugh, its hard to tell the real news from the fake news.Actually I'm not so 
sure it isn't all fake news.

-Curt

On Tuesday, July 21, 2020, 6:26:07 PM EDT, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
 wrote:  
 
 Is making controversy where none exists what the world is all about these days?

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 21, 2020, at 3:06 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
>  And although solar panels do have an effective "lifespan" they aren't 
> garbage at the end of it all that happens is the efficiency decreases, 
> they'll work for decades (at least) afterward. There is actually a big trade 
> in used solar panels. Whoever wrote that article doesn't really know what 
> they're talking about and is trying to make controversy where none exists.
> -Curt
> 
>    On Monday, July 20, 2020, 5:16:35 PM EDT, Mitch Haley via Mercedes 
> wrote:  
> 
> Aren't they basically aluminum, iron, copper and sand?
> The glass and the wafers are what I'm calling sand.
> Mitch.
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Growing solar waste

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They are trying to sell new cells and build new recycling plants.

On Tue, Jul 21, 2020 at 3:07 PM Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

>  And although solar panels do have an effective "lifespan" they aren't
> garbage at the end of it all that happens is the efficiency decreases,
> they'll work for decades (at least) afterward. There is actually a big
> trade in used solar panels. Whoever wrote that article doesn't really know
> what they're talking about and is trying to make controversy where none
> exists.
> -Curt
>


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Re: [MBZ] Dryer knob and shaft stripped

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I just had to do a similar repair on the wife's coffee grinder. I'd cut a
slot in the shaft, insert a small piece of metal that's wider than the
shaft creating wings that you can grab with the knob. Coat the shaft and
wings with oil, grease, or mold release. Cut slots for the wings in the
knob, fill it up with a good amount of Permatex Plastic Epoxy, and set it
in place. It will likely last longer than the rest of the dryer.

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> yeah just glue it up and if it ever breaks again cut it off and buy a
> new one.  A used dryer would probably be cheaper than the part,
> unfortunately, or maybe a used appliance shop would have one for a few
> dineros
>
> --FT
>
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> > I have a GE dryer with a plastic knob where the housing that slides over
> the timer shaft has cracked. As a result, it wore down the d shaped plastic
> shaft and now the knob slips on the shaft. Only way to turn it is with
> pliers but then you can’t know where in the cycle you are and this is a
> rental property so my tenants probably won’t go for this. The parts alone
> plus shipping will cost close to $100. Is there any way around this? Epoxy?
> >
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Growing solar waste

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Is making controversy where none exists what the world is all about these days?

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 21, 2020, at 3:06 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
>  And although solar panels do have an effective "lifespan" they aren't 
> garbage at the end of it all that happens is the efficiency decreases, 
> they'll work for decades (at least) afterward. There is actually a big trade 
> in used solar panels. Whoever wrote that article doesn't really know what 
> they're talking about and is trying to make controversy where none exists.
> -Curt
> 
>On Monday, July 20, 2020, 5:16:35 PM EDT, Mitch Haley via Mercedes 
>  wrote:  
> 
> Aren't they basically aluminum, iron, copper and sand?
> The glass and the wafers are what I'm calling sand.
> Mitch.
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Thermal solar in Oz

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 The boiling point of sodium is more than 1600F so the energy stored in the 
liquid sodium would be enough to keep boiling water to make steam for a 
substantial period even after the sun went down.I would assume (dangerous of 
course) that the production of steam would be a 24 hour deal with the daytime 
hours capturing more energy than could be used at that time to be used later 
when the sun went down.
Its one of those interesting ideas that might be great in remote places where 
small scale production is expensive. One of my Dad's friends just retired as 
the electricity manager for the island of Vynalhaven. He told us that 20 years 
ago they'd be shipping in 2500 gallons of diesel fuel every other day to supply 
power for the island. Today that same shipment lasts them a week as most of 
their daytime power is solar and wind with the diesel plant only supplementing. 
The goal is to never burn diesel (or not much anyway) during the day and 
ideally not a ton at night. The local electricity rates have come down 
something like 60% since theres basically no maintenance on the solar.
-Curt

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 wrote:  
 
 Since the system is designed to focus sun energy into a solar furnace, the
boiler portion of the system "should" be setting at operational
temperature. [except on cloud cover days, of course].

Since sunset is a known event, safe presumption would be that prior to
sunset, the steam pressure would be at operational setting for the nights
run of the turbine generators.

Plan ahead, get ahead...
[except for operational energy losses at every transfer of energy.]



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> Well a 1200lb steam plant on a US Navy ship required about 24 hours to be
> brought online from stone cold, but that can be significantly shortened if
> you don't let it get stone cold.  I would imagine that they would figure a
> way to keep the steam side hot enough so very little time, like 30 minutes
> or less world be needed.  Unlike a ship burning bunker oil, molten salt is
> not producing pollution when in use, so maybe they keep the steam side at
> full temp all day, but just keep the turbines off line until needed.  Bleed
> enough steam through the turbines to keep them hot enough to accept a full
> load of steam nearly instantly.
>
> Jul 21, 2020 2:43:37 PM Mitch Haley via Mercedes :
> >
> > And how long does it take to fire up and shut down the steam turbines?
> >
> > Mitch.
> >
>
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Thermal solar in Oz

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Since the system is designed to focus sun energy into a solar furnace, the
boiler portion of the system "should" be setting at operational
temperature. [except on cloud cover days, of course].

Since sunset is a known event, safe presumption would be that prior to
sunset, the steam pressure would be at operational setting for the nights
run of the turbine generators.

Plan ahead, get ahead...
[except for operational energy losses at every transfer of energy.]



On Tue, Jul 21, 2020 at 1:15 PM Max Dillon via Mercedes <
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> Well a 1200lb steam plant on a US Navy ship required about 24 hours to be
> brought online from stone cold, but that can be significantly shortened if
> you don't let it get stone cold.  I would imagine that they would figure a
> way to keep the steam side hot enough so very little time, like 30 minutes
> or less world be needed.  Unlike a ship burning bunker oil, molten salt is
> not producing pollution when in use, so maybe they keep the steam side at
> full temp all day, but just keep the turbines off line until needed.  Bleed
> enough steam through the turbines to keep them hot enough to accept a full
> load of steam nearly instantly.
>
> Jul 21, 2020 2:43:37 PM Mitch Haley via Mercedes :
> >
> > And how long does it take to fire up and shut down the steam turbines?
> >
> > Mitch.
> >
>
> Max Dillon
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Re: [MBZ] OT: More acorns = more chipmunks

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 Did you learn that from me? I've been doing it for 2 or 3 years. Started with 
white glue but it took too long. I used to use sunflower seeds but we had a bag 
of stale almonds...
-Curt

On Tuesday, July 21, 2020, 11:37:06 AM EDT, Mitch Haley via Mercedes 
 wrote:  
 
 On Tue, July 21, 2020 11:30 am, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:
> What bait do you use to trap them?

I hotglue almonds to Victor rat trap triggers.
I'm interested in hearing what Curt does.
Everybody who has tried the rat electrocution boxes swears by them.

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Thermal solar in Oz

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Well a 1200lb steam plant on a US Navy ship required about 24 hours to be 
brought online from stone cold, but that can be significantly shortened if you 
don't let it get stone cold.  I would imagine that they would figure a way to 
keep the steam side hot enough so very little time, like 30 minutes or less 
world be needed.  Unlike a ship burning bunker oil, molten salt is not 
producing pollution when in use, so maybe they keep the steam side at full temp 
all day, but just keep the turbines off line until needed.  Bleed enough steam 
through the turbines to keep them hot enough to accept a full load of steam 
nearly instantly.

Jul 21, 2020 2:43:37 PM Mitch Haley via Mercedes :
>
> And how long does it take to fire up and shut down the steam turbines?
>
> Mitch.
>

Max Dillon
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Re: [MBZ] OT: More acorns = more chipmunks

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 I hot glue almonds to the bait pad on the trap. I'd formerly used white glue 
but needed faster turn around on my traps. In the spring a trap might get 2-3 
hits a day. Also skunks and mice can get the almonds either without triggering 
the traps or while being missed although I do catch a number of mice also.
The other thing I learned was to screw the trap to a piece of 2x4 thats about 2 
feet long. That way if I don't see a chipmunk in the trap before nightfall when 
a skunk takes the body it doesn't take the trap away with it...
-Curt

On Tuesday, July 21, 2020, 11:30:37 AM EDT, Andrew Strasfogel 
 wrote:  
 
 What bait do you use to trap them?

On Tue, Jul 21, 2020 at 10:48 AM Curt Raymond  wrote:

 I've removed 13 chippies from the gene pool so far this year, 12 here at our 
house and one at my parent's place. The vast majority of those have been 
trapped, they're very hard to shoot being so small and naturally camouflaged.
I'm working on getting a new airgun. The one I have is a cheapo Wal-Mart 
special. I'm debating between made in Turkey with a German barrel or made in 
Germany for more money. I know standard wisdom is to pay up front but the 
Turkish made guns have a good reputation.

-Curt

On Monday, July 20, 2020, 3:28:08 PM EDT, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
 wrote:  
 
 I thought of Curt when reading this article.

Are chipmunks more or less of a nuisance than squirrels?

WILDLIFE
More nuts mean more chipmunks wreaking havoc

Published: Monday, July 20, 2020
[image: Chipmunk. Photo credit: University of New Hampshire Cooperative
Extension]

Chipmunks are on the rise in New England, fueled by a large crop of acorns
last fall. University of New Hampshire Cooperative Extension

There were plenty of acorns this spring, and now the chipmunks are driving
people nuts.

Their frenetic activities can be entertaining. But this summer in New
England, the varmints are making a nuisance of themselves, darting to and
fro, digging holes in gardens, and tunneling under lawns.

Plentiful acorns last fall meant there was still plenty of food on the
ground when the chipmunks emerged from winter and got busy breeding this
spring, said Shevenell Webb, a small mammal biologist with the Maine
Department of Inland Fisheries and Wildlife.

The result is a bumper crop of the critters.

"They're cute. They're fun to watch in the forest as they duck in and out
of the holes and play peekaboo," Webb said. When their cheeks aren't
bulging with nuts, chipmunks make a distinctive "chip" sound, she said.

But they're also destructive. They can destroy lawns and gardens with their
burrowing, and can even get into homes, Webb said.

"We can't grow a tulip without them digging it up," Steven Parren, wildlife
diversity program manager for the Vermont Department of Fish and Wildlife,
said of the chipmunks in his yard. "They don't even pause."

There were so many acorns in one of the areas that he monitors that the
rodents that rely on them couldn't stash them all away for the winter.
Plenty remained on the ground this spring. In addition to chipmunks, he
said, he's seeing more squirrels, rabbits and a variety of different kinds
of mice.

People needn't get too alarmed over an overpopulation. Small mammal
populations tend to explode, then crash and burn.

Such is life near the bottom of the food chain, where food supply ebbs and
flows and chipmunks are easy prey for owls, hawks, snakes, foxes and
raccoons. Even if their lives aren't cut short, individual chipmunks tend
to live only for three years, Webb said.

Many New Englanders recall a similar spike in squirrel populations in 2018
in New England. The boom-and-bust cycle was punctuated by a memorable
number of road kills.

"We've never seen anything like that. That was a once-in-a-lifetime event,"
Webb said. *— Associated Press*
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Growing solar waste

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 And although solar panels do have an effective "lifespan" they aren't garbage 
at the end of it all that happens is the efficiency decreases, they'll work for 
decades (at least) afterward. There is actually a big trade in used solar 
panels. Whoever wrote that article doesn't really know what they're talking 
about and is trying to make controversy where none exists.
-Curt

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 wrote:  
 
 Aren't they basically aluminum, iron, copper and sand?
The glass and the wafers are what I'm calling sand.
Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] Advances in Covid Research

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Interesting, thanks!  A potential new treatment for those very ill with Wuhan 
Red Death, and good news on vaccine front.

Max Dillon
Charleston SC

Jul 21, 2020 3:24:49 PM archer75--- via Mercedes :

> The Oxford vaccine appears to have surpassed expectations
> 
> The Spectator, 20 July 2020, 12:09pm
> 
> Dr Waqar Rashid
> 
> It has been yet another busy medical day in our ‘new-normal’ coronavirus 
> world. Today, the Phase One results of the University of Oxford vaccine were 
> published, confirming positive reports tantalisingly leaked last week. Also 
> making the news is a press release from the pharmaceutical company Synairgen, 
> touting very positive initial results from its inhaled protein, 
> interferon-beta, in treating hospitalised patients with coronavirus.
> 
> In days gone by the publishing of results of a Phase One vaccine study would 
> barely generate a ripple, even in the relevant medical speciality. But of 
> course, this is no ordinary trial and we are truly in extraordinary times.
> 
> All medical products undergo a trial process, starting with studies which 
> look purely at safety (not efficacy). Many trials fail at this stage. You may 
> recall the disastrous Northwick Park study in 2006 which saw six healthy 
> young people develop multiple organ failure from exposure. Once this hurdle 
> is passed then a larger scale trial to look at efficacy is undertaken and if 
> successful, a licence is applied for and distribution follows.
> 
> Today, the preliminary findings for ChAdOx1 nCoV-19 (the Covid-19 vaccine) 
> appear to show that it has surpassed expectations. Firstly, the safety hurdle 
> seems to have been met, although 70 per cent of the 1,077 volunteers 
> apparently did report fever or headache. Secondly, and in line with the 
> bullish press releases last week, the vaccine garners both an antibody and 
> T-cell response which it is hoped may provide lasting immunity to the 
> disease. This is vital as studies have shown that patient antibody levels may 
> fall after just three months.
> 
> There are the usual caveats: the study was over a very small timeframe and 
> was not intended to show if it is a working vaccine, so we know little of its 
> long-term safety or effectiveness. Nevertheless, it is now full steam ahead 
> for the larger Phase Three study and the likely riches of being first on the 
> market.
> 
> Make no mistake, a vaccine is the only game in town as far as the Department 
> of Health and the World Health Organisation see it. Despite the continued 
> fall in hospitalisations due to Covid-19 in the UK and the significant 
> reduction in deaths, a return to pre-March 2020 normal life seems a long way 
> off. ‘Cases’ continue to rise in some areas and there is talk of local spikes 
> and lockdowns. Masks will soon be compulsory in shops (something that was not 
> the case at the peak of the epidemic) and of course we still await a possible 
> ‘second wave’. Boris Johnson on Saturday promised a return to 
> ‘near-normality’ by Christmas, but given that is bang in the middle of the 
> respiratory virus season, this would seem grossly optimistic. A 
> ‘game-changer’ is needed to break the cycle of cases and restriction.
> 
> There is actually a coherent argument to be made that cases (positive tests 
> without infection) matter little, as spread from this is at best rare and it 
> may also reflect a move towards community immunity which may allow us to live 
> with this virus. However, the government and scientific advisers have put all 
> their eggs in the vaccine basket.
> 
> The larger Phase Three trial for the Oxford vaccine is already recruiting in 
> Brazil, because there are not enough serious infections in the UK, and a 
> license and production deal has already been signed with AstraZeneca to 
> supply the UK with over 90 million vaccines from as early as September. A 
> subsequent mass vaccination programme would then likely follow. Suddenly the 
> promised Christmas normality would become possible. Hence, a working and safe 
> vaccine is fundamental to these ambitions.
> 
> As I mentioned previously, there is an almost unseemly worldwide race to be 
> the first to develop an effective and safe vaccine. Today’s results, combined 
> with the UK’s block purchasing already underway, confirms Oxford’s 
> credentials as the definite frontrunner.
> 
> Yet the other development of the day: the finding that an inhaled protein, 
> interferon-beta, may dramatically reduce severe Covid-19 lung disease and 
> hospitalisation, may also have a bearing. The preliminary study reported by 
> its pharmaceutical sponsor, Synairgen, from a modestly-sized 100 patient 
> study at the University of Southampton suggests (but no more than that) two 
> very important things.
> 
> Firstly, severe Covid cases may become much more treatable, which could have 
> a significant bearing on future fatalities if a so-called second wave does 
> emerge. Certainly, initial assumptions of 

Re: [MBZ] Other illogical things with masks

[Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes]

Can't remember who was posting about particle sizes and masks. This is a
decent explanation of how n95s work. Surgical masks don't seal as well but
are also electrically charged:

https://fyfluiddynamics.com/2020/07/how-n95-masks-work/

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> So I guess they can’t eat or drink except in certain areas?
>
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> > On Jul 20, 2020, at 7:06 PM, Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes <
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> >
> > Eating in groups is one of the highest risk things you can do right now.
> > Usually close to others for at least 30 min, nobody wearing masks, and
> > everybody typically talks. Disneyland just started telling people they
> are
> > not allowed to remove masks to drink or eat except in certain areas, as
> > everyone was just walking around the whole park with their masks under
> > their chins carrying a drink with them.
> >
> >> On Mon, Jul 20, 2020, 10:02 AM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
> >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> Why if masks must be worn to avoid spreading WRD, why is it OK to remove
> >> them in restaurants? In Arkansas for example you must wear them to and
> from
> >> your table but not at the table. Does it somehow not spread at the
> table?
> >> On airplanes, why must mask be worn except for eating or drinking on the
> >> plane? Does it not spread while eating or drinking? Drink service in
> >> economy is suspended but goes on like normal in 1st class, does it not
> >> spread at the front of the plane when drinks are served?
> >>
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Re: [MBZ] Covid 19 Mystery

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He counts for zero unless he tests positive, in which case, 1.

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> Is 'recovered' the same as 'tested negative'?
>
> If we keep testing until you test negative, and you test positive 3x, are
> you one case or three? (somebody I know needs an outpatient procedure but
> they won't touch him until he tests negative twice, and I'm wondering how
> many COVID cases he counts for, he finally got a negative last week and is
> waiting for the results of the next test)
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Re: [MBZ] Dryer knob and shaft stripped

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

yeah just glue it up and if it ever breaks again cut it off and buy a 
new one.  A used dryer would probably be cheaper than the part, 
unfortunately, or maybe a used appliance shop would have one for a few 
dineros


--FT

On 7/21/20 3:07 PM, Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes wrote:

I have a GE dryer with a plastic knob where the housing that slides over the 
timer shaft has cracked. As a result, it wore down the d shaped plastic shaft 
and now the knob slips on the shaft. Only way to turn it is with pliers but 
then you can’t know where in the cycle you are and this is a rental property so 
my tenants probably won’t go for this. The parts alone plus shipping will cost 
close to $100. Is there any way around this? Epoxy?

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[MBZ] Advances in Covid Research

[archer75--- via Mercedes]

The Oxford vaccine appears to have surpassed expectations

The Spectator, 20 July 2020, 12:09pm

Dr Waqar Rashid


It has been yet another busy medical day in our ‘new-normal’ coronavirus world. 
Today, the Phase One results of the University of Oxford vaccine were 
published, confirming positive reports tantalisingly leaked last week. Also 
making the news is a press release from the pharmaceutical company Synairgen, 
touting very positive initial results from its inhaled protein, 
interferon-beta, in treating hospitalised patients with coronavirus.

In days gone by the publishing of results of a Phase One vaccine study would 
barely generate a ripple, even in the relevant medical speciality. But of 
course, this is no ordinary trial and we are truly in extraordinary times.

All medical products undergo a trial process, starting with studies which look 
purely at safety (not efficacy). Many trials fail at this stage. You may recall 
the disastrous Northwick Park study in 2006 which saw six healthy young people 
develop multiple organ failure from exposure. Once this hurdle is passed then a 
larger scale trial to look at efficacy is undertaken and if successful, a 
licence is applied for and distribution follows.

Today, the preliminary findings for ChAdOx1 nCoV-19 (the Covid-19 vaccine) 
appear to show that it has surpassed expectations. Firstly, the safety hurdle 
seems to have been met, although 70 per cent of the 1,077 volunteers apparently 
did report fever or headache. Secondly, and in line with the bullish press 
releases last week, the vaccine garners both an antibody and T-cell response 
which it is hoped may provide lasting immunity to the disease. This is vital as 
studies have shown that patient antibody levels may fall after just three 
months.

There are the usual caveats: the study was over a very small timeframe and was 
not intended to show if it is a working vaccine, so we know little of its 
long-term safety or effectiveness. Nevertheless, it is now full steam ahead for 
the larger Phase Three study and the likely riches of being first on the market.

Make no mistake, a vaccine is the only game in town as far as the Department of 
Health and the World Health Organisation see it. Despite the continued fall in 
hospitalisations due to Covid-19 in the UK and the significant reduction in 
deaths, a return to pre-March 2020 normal life seems a long way off. ‘Cases’ 
continue to rise in some areas and there is talk of local spikes and lockdowns. 
Masks will soon be compulsory in shops (something that was not the case at the 
peak of the epidemic) and of course we still await a possible ‘second wave’. 
Boris Johnson on Saturday promised a return to ‘near-normality’ by Christmas, 
but given that is bang in the middle of the respiratory virus season, this 
would seem grossly optimistic. A ‘game-changer’ is needed to break the cycle of 
cases and restriction.

There is actually a coherent argument to be made that cases (positive tests 
without infection) matter little, as spread from this is at best rare and it 
may also reflect a move towards community immunity which may allow us to live 
with this virus. However, the government and scientific advisers have put all 
their eggs in the vaccine basket.

The larger Phase Three trial for the Oxford vaccine is already recruiting in 
Brazil, because there are not enough serious infections in the UK, and a 
license and production deal has already been signed with AstraZeneca to supply 
the UK with over 90 million vaccines from as early as September. A subsequent 
mass vaccination programme would then likely follow. Suddenly the promised 
Christmas normality would become possible. Hence, a working and safe vaccine is 
fundamental to these ambitions.

As I mentioned previously, there is an almost unseemly worldwide race to be the 
first to develop an effective and safe vaccine. Today’s results, combined with 
the UK’s block purchasing already underway, confirms Oxford’s credentials as 
the definite frontrunner.

Yet the other development of the day: the finding that an inhaled protein, 
interferon-beta, may dramatically reduce severe Covid-19 lung disease and 
hospitalisation, may also have a bearing. The preliminary study reported by its 
pharmaceutical sponsor, Synairgen, from a modestly-sized 100 patient study at 
the University of Southampton suggests (but no more than that) two very 
important things.

Firstly, severe Covid cases may become much more treatable, which could have a 
significant bearing on future fatalities if a so-called second wave does 
emerge. Certainly, initial assumptions of treating the condition have now been 
turned on its head with the dash for ventilators now replaced with stockpiling 
of dexamethasone and possibly now interferon-beta.

Secondly, given both dexamethasone and interferon-beta are medications which 
reduce or modify the immune system, this tells us is that it's immune 
dysregulation as a result of the virus, 

Re: [MBZ] OT: Thermal solar in Oz

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Tue, 21 Jul 2020 15:03:37 -0400 Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
 wrote:

> Yeah those molten salts can hold a tremendous amount of heat in the
> heat of fusion but they are also quite corrosive, so there's that too.
> 
> I have to remember those laws...
> 
> 1. You can't win
> 
> {\displaystyle \Delta U_{\rm {system}}=Q-W}
> 
> 2. You can't break even
> 
> \delta Q=T\,dS\,.
> 
> 3. You can't get out of the game
> 
> S=k_{\mathrm {B} }\,\mathrm {ln} \,\Omega


And Floyd wrote LaTeX ...


Craig

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[MBZ] Dryer knob and shaft stripped

[Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes]

I have a GE dryer with a plastic knob where the housing that slides over the 
timer shaft has cracked. As a result, it wore down the d shaped plastic shaft 
and now the knob slips on the shaft. Only way to turn it is with pliers but 
then you can’t know where in the cycle you are and this is a rental property so 
my tenants probably won’t go for this. The parts alone plus shipping will cost 
close to $100. Is there any way around this? Epoxy?

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Thermal solar in Oz

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

Yeah those molten salts can hold a tremendous amount of heat in the heat 
of fusion but they are also quite corrosive, so there's that too.


I have to remember those laws...

1. You can't win

{\displaystyle \Delta U_{\rm {system}}=Q-W}

2. You can't break even

\delta Q=T\,dS\,.

3. You can't get out of the game

S=k_{\mathrm {B} }\,\mathrm {ln} \,\Omega

--FT


On 7/21/20 2:16 PM, G Mann via Mercedes wrote:

Correct. The premise is the liquid sodium [salt solution] is heated to a
very high temperature and stored in a thermal container which holds the
heat until release.  During the heating day, the solution is circulated
from the heating grid [sun collection device] to the container in
continuous loop [much like solar hot water heater systems, for example].

At sundown, the PV panels drop off line, and the thermal container hot
liquid is used to heat what is in practical sense, a steam boiler which
drives turbines which drive generators.

We have had two pilot systems built here in Arizona [another solar capital
of the world for sunshine] at HUGE investment dollars.. both failed to
produce enough electricity to make a return on investment.
I'm sure some lessons were learned by their failure. Perhaps improvements
are here and this one can actually work with a practical ROI.  If it
doesn't make its own money and the public funds run out... projects like
this die...always.

On Tue, Jul 21, 2020 at 11:00 AM Craig via Mercedes 
wrote:


On Tue, 21 Jul 2020 12:52:22 -0500 OK Don via Mercedes
 wrote:


How do they make electricity from the stored heat??? Sounds complex to
me.

Boiler and steam turbine.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Thermal solar in Oz

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On Tue, July 21, 2020 2:16 pm, G Mann via Mercedes wrote:

> At sundown, the PV panels drop off line, and the thermal container hot
> liquid is used to heat what is in practical sense, a steam boiler which
> drives turbines which drive generators.


And how long does it take to fire up and shut down the steam turbines?

Mitch.


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Re: [MBZ] OT 51 yr ago today

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

1969: A Moon Odyssey

--FT

On 7/21/20 2:15 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote:

It was produced by Stanley Kubrick

Sent from my iPhone


On Jul 21, 2020, at 12:35 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
 wrote:

My ex GF was convinced the whole mission was a stunt and could prove it.


On Tue, Jul 21, 2020 at 1:27 PM Craig via Mercedes 
wrote:

On Mon, 20 Jul 2020 12:01:19 -0400 Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
 wrote:


--
--FT

July 21, 1969 Historical Events. 1969 – Space Race: Neil Armstrong and
Edwin “Buzz” Aldrin become the first humans to walk on the Moon, during
the Apollo 11 mission (July 20 in North America).

And I was a cadet in Field Training at Forbes AFB, Kansas ...


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Re: [MBZ] Outstanding in its field -- Kilo Graham

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

Yeah it's like these 210s (or even 163s) I have bought for $500 or $600 
-- nice cars with some issues, nothing particularly challenging to fix 
unless you are paying some jackleg mechanic to diagnose and throw parts 
at it, in which case your costs will rapidly exceed the value of the car 
because of the reputations and nobody wanting to fool with them.  So 
these folks buy them figuring they are going to get a deal then some 
nanny or $100 part craps out, they don't want to deal with it so the car 
sits and goes to hell and becomes near-scrap.


I guess Merkun and Jap cars are easier to deal with, or more reliable or 
something, or at least that is the perception.  It works to our 
advantage if we want to fool with them.


--FT

On 7/21/20 2:11 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes wrote:

On Tue, July 21, 2020 1:34 pm, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:

What is it about Mercedes models of the early 2000s?

W210: Rust, spring perches.
W211: Brake controller.
W220: Airmatic and various electronics.
W203: Cheap and abused.
All: 722.6 transmission electronics.

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Thermal solar in Oz

[G Mann via Mercedes]

Correct. The premise is the liquid sodium [salt solution] is heated to a
very high temperature and stored in a thermal container which holds the
heat until release.  During the heating day, the solution is circulated
from the heating grid [sun collection device] to the container in
continuous loop [much like solar hot water heater systems, for example].

At sundown, the PV panels drop off line, and the thermal container hot
liquid is used to heat what is in practical sense, a steam boiler which
drives turbines which drive generators.

We have had two pilot systems built here in Arizona [another solar capital
of the world for sunshine] at HUGE investment dollars.. both failed to
produce enough electricity to make a return on investment.
I'm sure some lessons were learned by their failure. Perhaps improvements
are here and this one can actually work with a practical ROI.  If it
doesn't make its own money and the public funds run out... projects like
this die...always.

On Tue, Jul 21, 2020 at 11:00 AM Craig via Mercedes 
wrote:

> On Tue, 21 Jul 2020 12:52:22 -0500 OK Don via Mercedes
>  wrote:
>
> > How do they make electricity from the stored heat??? Sounds complex to
> > me.
>
> Boiler and steam turbine.
>
>
> Craig
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Re: [MBZ] OT 51 yr ago today

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

It was produced by Stanley Kubrick

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 21, 2020, at 12:35 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> My ex GF was convinced the whole mission was a stunt and could prove it.
> 
>> On Tue, Jul 21, 2020 at 1:27 PM Craig via Mercedes 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> On Mon, 20 Jul 2020 12:01:19 -0400 Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
>>  wrote:
>> 
>>> --
>>> --FT
>> 
>> July 21, 1969 Historical Events. 1969 – Space Race: Neil Armstrong and
>> Edwin “Buzz” Aldrin become the first humans to walk on the Moon, during
>> the Apollo 11 mission (July 20 in North America).
>> 
>> And I was a cadet in Field Training at Forbes AFB, Kansas ...
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Outstanding in its field -- Kilo Graham

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On Tue, July 21, 2020 1:34 pm, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:
> What is it about Mercedes models of the early 2000s?

W210: Rust, spring perches.
W211: Brake controller.
W220: Airmatic and various electronics.
W203: Cheap and abused.
All: 722.6 transmission electronics.

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Thermal solar in Oz

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On Tue, 21 Jul 2020 12:52:22 -0500 OK Don via Mercedes
 wrote:

> How do they make electricity from the stored heat??? Sounds complex to
> me.

Boiler and steam turbine.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Outstanding in its field -- Kilo Graham

[Allan Streib via Mercedes]

W123s were the same way when they were just 20 year old cars and the
supply was plentiful.

Now that they are even older and harder to find they are becoming
valuable.

This particular example also has obvious collision repair. Half-assed
repair = low value.


Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes  writes:

> What is it about Mercedes models of the early 2000s?  They seem to retain
> almost no market value, with exception of SLs.
>
> On Tue, Jul 21, 2020 at 12:58 PM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
>> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/1956154621152995/
>>
>> 2001 Mercedes-Benz CLK-Class · CLK 430 Coupe 2D
>> $1,000
>> Vehicles 
>> Listed 48 weeks ago in Gaston, SC
>> 
>>
>>
>> How This Price Compares…
>>
>>
>> Kelley Blue Book®
>> <
>> https://l.facebook.com/l.php?u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.kbb.com%2F%3Ffbclid%3DIwAR3JB_GMiPTAhGxYQbGYIv5Cz2qovjH77mtVqfuxCqR07BBpG8YarPKHSCU=AT0rtGELKyBHOkFQ8mhzP3TNsHwJ-10Etkq1ktfnGQ0_-mMs-xCqrxvgDz_xCQCzjtFzcp1UixS1o08oDhhNyImXTLSbjGkS0oiAf48OyMsPq241CXtroslienO6OZwOCWXYsE8_
>> >
>> Private Party Value
>>
>> $1,000
>> LowHigh
>>
>>
>> $1,504 – $3,123
>>
>> Price range for similar Mercedes-Benz CLK-Class in fair condition · How
>> It's Calculated 
>>
>>
>> About This Vehicle…
>>
>> Driven 180,000 miles
>> Automatic transmission
>> Exterior color: Black · Interior color: Black
>> Fuel type: Gasoline
>> 16.0 MPG city · 23.0 MPG highway · 19.0 MPG combined
>> Fair condition 
>>
>>
>> Typical Features…
>>
>>   *
>> Moon Roof
>>   *
>> Alloy Wheels
>>   *
>> ABS
>>   *
>> AM/FM Stereo
>>   *
>>
>>
>> Seller's description…
>>
>> Gaston, SC
>> Location is approximate
>>
>>
>> Seller Information…
>>
>> Kilo Graham
>>
>> --
>> --FT
>>

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Thermal solar in Oz

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How do they make electricity from the stored heat??? Sounds complex to me.

On Tue, Jul 21, 2020 at 12:41 PM Craig via Mercedes 
wrote:

> On Tue, 21 Jul 2020 11:52:52 -0400 Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
>  wrote:
>
> > The 50-megawatt Mount Isa plant will run on traditional solar power,
> > backed by battery storage and gas turbines, during the day, with the
> > solar thermal-generated power to be used at night to ensure it can
> > operate around the clock. It will provide enough electricity to supply
> > a regional town in Queensland, or a large resources project.
>
> I'm impressed they are working to ensure it can operate around the clock.
>
> That's what all responsible non-traditional sources should do, regardless
> of where they are situated.
>
>
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Thermal solar in Oz

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On Tue, 21 Jul 2020 11:52:52 -0400 Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
 wrote:

> The 50-megawatt Mount Isa plant will run on traditional solar power,
> backed by battery storage and gas turbines, during the day, with the
> solar thermal-generated power to be used at night to ensure it can
> operate around the clock. It will provide enough electricity to supply
> a regional town in Queensland, or a large resources project.

I'm impressed they are working to ensure it can operate around the clock.

That's what all responsible non-traditional sources should do, regardless
of where they are situated.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] OT 51 yr ago today

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

My ex GF was convinced the whole mission was a stunt and could prove it.

On Tue, Jul 21, 2020 at 1:27 PM Craig via Mercedes 
wrote:

> On Mon, 20 Jul 2020 12:01:19 -0400 Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
>  wrote:
>
> > --
> > --FT
>
> July 21, 1969 Historical Events. 1969 – Space Race: Neil Armstrong and
> Edwin “Buzz” Aldrin become the first humans to walk on the Moon, during
> the Apollo 11 mission (July 20 in North America).
>
> And I was a cadet in Field Training at Forbes AFB, Kansas ...
>
>
> Craig
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Re: [MBZ] Outstanding in its field -- Kilo Graham

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

What is it about Mercedes models of the early 2000s?  They seem to retain
almost no market value, with exception of SLs.

On Tue, Jul 21, 2020 at 12:58 PM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/1956154621152995/
>
> 2001 Mercedes-Benz CLK-Class · CLK 430 Coupe 2D
> $1,000
> Vehicles 
> Listed 48 weeks ago in Gaston, SC
> 
>
>
> How This Price Compares…
>
>
> Kelley Blue Book®
> <
> https://l.facebook.com/l.php?u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.kbb.com%2F%3Ffbclid%3DIwAR3JB_GMiPTAhGxYQbGYIv5Cz2qovjH77mtVqfuxCqR07BBpG8YarPKHSCU=AT0rtGELKyBHOkFQ8mhzP3TNsHwJ-10Etkq1ktfnGQ0_-mMs-xCqrxvgDz_xCQCzjtFzcp1UixS1o08oDhhNyImXTLSbjGkS0oiAf48OyMsPq241CXtroslienO6OZwOCWXYsE8_
> >
> Private Party Value
>
> $1,000
> LowHigh
>
>
> $1,504 – $3,123
>
> Price range for similar Mercedes-Benz CLK-Class in fair condition · How
> It's Calculated 
>
>
> About This Vehicle…
>
> Driven 180,000 miles
> Automatic transmission
> Exterior color: Black · Interior color: Black
> Fuel type: Gasoline
> 16.0 MPG city · 23.0 MPG highway · 19.0 MPG combined
> Fair condition 
>
>
> Typical Features…
>
>   *
> Moon Roof
>   *
> Alloy Wheels
>   *
> ABS
>   *
> AM/FM Stereo
>   *
>
>
> Seller's description…
>
> Gaston, SC
> Location is approximate
>
>
> Seller Information…
>
> Kilo Graham
>
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Re: [MBZ] Whussup wif da steering wheel?

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

It's verklampt.

On Tue, Jul 21, 2020 at 12:52 PM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Besides the crack price
>
> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/2651060515117011/
>
> 2003 Mercedes-Benz E-Class · E 320 Sedan 4D
> $3,500
> Vehicles 
> Listed 3 days ago in Goldsboro, NC
> 
>
>
> About This Vehicle…
>
> Driven 170,000 miles
> Automatic transmission
> Exterior color: Blue · Interior color: Beige
> Fuel type: Gasoline
> 17.0 MPG city · 24.0 MPG highway · 20.0 MPG combined
>
>
> Typical Features…
>
>   *
> Moon Roof
>   *
> Alloy Wheels
>   *
> ABS
>   *
> AM/FM Stereo
>   *
>
>
> Seller's description…
>
> Brand new ABS System Cranks and runs Need some mechanic work done OBO
> (FYI) I know a Mercedes Benz mechanical specialists in Smithfield that I
> suggest you to go to once purchased!
> Goldsboro, NC
> Location is approximate
>
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Re: [MBZ] Gorgeous 450SL @ $14.5k

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Price is reasonable only if under 30K miles.

On Tue, Jul 21, 2020 at 12:49 PM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Red/black is beautiful combination
>
> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/210676253583142/
>
> 1979 Mercedes-Benz 450SL
> $14,500
> Vehicles 
> Listed 22 hours ago in Bluffton, SC
> 
>
>
> About This Vehicle…
>
> Driven 105,000 miles
> Automatic transmission
> Exterior color: Red · Interior color: Black
> Fuel type: Gasoline
>
>
> Seller's description…
>
> Historic 1979 Mercedes 450 SL, original custom color, soft and hard
> tops, second owner, very good condition. Original mileage
>
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Re: [MBZ] OT 51 yr ago today

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Mon, 20 Jul 2020 12:01:19 -0400 Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
 wrote:

> -- 
> --FT

July 21, 1969 Historical Events. 1969 – Space Race: Neil Armstrong and
Edwin “Buzz” Aldrin become the first humans to walk on the Moon, during
the Apollo 11 mission (July 20 in North America).

And I was a cadet in Field Training at Forbes AFB, Kansas ...


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Fwd: 89 Mercedes Benz 300 SEL

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

We used to call that nickel green.

On Tue, Jul 21, 2020 at 12:31 PM Mitch Haley via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> On Tue, July 21, 2020 12:22 pm, Frederick Moir via Mercedes wrote:
> >
> > https://westernmass.craigslist.org/pts/7161742299.html
>
>
> Not running, but the anti gravity thrusters are at full power?
>
> What color is that, green, blue, teal?
>
> Looks like a nice project if the paint is as good as it seems.
>
> 89 300sel Benz
> Not running
> For parts
> Must leave phone number
> $650.
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[MBZ] Outstanding in its field -- Kilo Graham

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/1956154621152995/

2001 Mercedes-Benz CLK-Class · CLK 430 Coupe 2D
$1,000
Vehicles 
Listed 48 weeks ago in Gaston, SC 




   How This Price Compares…


   Kelley Blue Book®
   

   Private Party Value

$1,000
LowHigh


   $1,504 – $3,123

Price range for similar Mercedes-Benz CLK-Class in fair condition · How 
It's Calculated 



   About This Vehicle…

Driven 180,000 miles
Automatic transmission
Exterior color: Black · Interior color: Black
Fuel type: Gasoline
16.0 MPG city · 23.0 MPG highway · 19.0 MPG combined
Fair condition 


   Typical Features…

 *
   Moon Roof
 *
   Alloy Wheels
 *
   ABS
 *
   AM/FM Stereo
 *


   Seller's description…

Gaston, SC
Location is approximate


   Seller Information…

Kilo Graham

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[MBZ] Whussup wif da steering wheel?

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

Besides the crack price

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/2651060515117011/

2003 Mercedes-Benz E-Class · E 320 Sedan 4D
$3,500
Vehicles 
Listed 3 days ago in Goldsboro, NC 




   About This Vehicle…

Driven 170,000 miles
Automatic transmission
Exterior color: Blue · Interior color: Beige
Fuel type: Gasoline
17.0 MPG city · 24.0 MPG highway · 20.0 MPG combined


   Typical Features…

 *
   Moon Roof
 *
   Alloy Wheels
 *
   ABS
 *
   AM/FM Stereo
 *


   Seller's description…

Brand new ABS System Cranks and runs Need some mechanic work done OBO 
(FYI) I know a Mercedes Benz mechanical specialists in Smithfield that I 
suggest you to go to once purchased!

Goldsboro, NC
Location is approximate

--
--FT

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[MBZ] Gorgeous 450SL @ $14.5k

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

Red/black is beautiful combination

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/210676253583142/

1979 Mercedes-Benz 450SL
$14,500
Vehicles 
Listed 22 hours ago in Bluffton, SC 




   About This Vehicle…

Driven 105,000 miles
Automatic transmission
Exterior color: Red · Interior color: Black
Fuel type: Gasoline


   Seller's description…

Historic 1979 Mercedes 450 SL, original custom color, soft and hard 
tops, second owner, very good condition. Original mileage



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[MBZ] Crack dealer 99 E300 $3,999

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/3236817883005933/

1999 Mercedes-Benz E-Class 4dr Sdn 3.0L Diesel
$3,999
Vehicles 
Dealership· Listed 21 hours ago in Rock Hill, SC 




   About This Vehicle…

Driven 202,701 miles
Automatic transmission
Exterior color: Silver · Interior color:
VIN: WDBJF25H8XA889422
Fuel type: Diesel
23.0 MPG city · 32.0 MPG highway · 26.0 MPG combined


   Seller's description…

Thanks for visiting www.guntermercedes.comLooking for a Good Running 
Diesel Car? Our 1999 E 300 Turbo Diesel could be yours. She has a Silver 
Exterior with Gray Leather Interior. Powered by a 3.0 Liter, Inline 6 
Cyl. Turbo Diesel Engine and an Automatic Transmission. It is Rear Wheel 
Drive. Interior has Power Windows & Locks, Keyless Entry, Leather 
Steering Wheel,Cruise Control, Sunroof, and Driver & Passenger 
Adjustable Power Seats w/ Memory. 202 K miles *The Left Rear Window does 
not work but can be fixed


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Re: [MBZ] Fwd: Mercedes Benz S430

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

I'd pay a dollar for that

--FT

On 7/21/20 12:22 PM, Frederick Moir via Mercedes wrote:

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Re: [MBZ] Fwd: 89 Mercedes Benz 300 SEL

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

On Tue, July 21, 2020 12:22 pm, Frederick Moir via Mercedes wrote:
>
> https://westernmass.craigslist.org/pts/7161742299.html


Not running, but the anti gravity thrusters are at full power?

What color is that, green, blue, teal?

Looks like a nice project if the paint is as good as it seems.

89 300sel Benz
Not running
For parts
Must leave phone number
$650.

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[MBZ] Fwd: 89 Mercedes Benz 300 SEL

[Frederick Moir via Mercedes]

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Subject: 89 Mercedes Benz 300 SEL
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[MBZ] Fwd: Mercedes Benz S430

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[MBZ] OT: How to understand COVID-19 Numbers

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

>From today's ProPublica.

https://www.propublica.org/article/how-to-understand-covid-19-numbers?utm_source=sailthru_medium=email_campaign=majorinvestigations_content=feature
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[MBZ] OT: Thermal solar in Oz

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

RENEWABLE ENERGYRemote Outback town to host $420M solar thermal project

Published: Tuesday, July 21, 2020

An isolated Australian mining community has been selected as the site for a
A$600 million ($420 million) energy project, incorporating technology that
allows heat from the sun to be stored for as long as 16 hours.

Mount Isa in northern Queensland state is home to fewer than 20,000 people,
but is an important service hub for the region's silver, lead, zinc and
copper mining industry. Developer Vast Solar is targeting the business of
those resource operations with a cleaner, cheaper alternative to the
natural gas that currently powers the region.

"After the Atacama Desert, this is the second-best place on the planet to
build a solar thermal plant," said Craig Wood, Vast Solar chief executive
officer, citing the region's year-round hot, dry conditions.

The company's technology uses mirrors and receiving towers to gather and
store the sun's energy. Heat is transferred using liquid sodium, which the
company says offers improved control, higher efficiency and lower risk than
other solar thermal solutions.

The 50-megawatt Mount Isa plant will run on traditional solar power, backed
by battery storage and gas turbines, during the day, with the solar
thermal-generated power to be used at night to ensure it can operate around
the clock. It will provide enough electricity to supply a regional town in
Queensland, or a large resources project.

The facility is intended to complement the A$1.5 billion CopperString 2.0
project, which will connect the region to the national electricity network
via as much as 1,000 kilometers (621 miles) of new transmission line. Once
in place, the link would also open up a route to urban coastal markets for
the Mount Isa site and potentially even bigger solar thermal operations,
Wood said.

Vast Solar has run a successful pilot project at Jemalong in New South
Wales since 2018, but solar thermal has had a chequered history. Technical
issues beset early efforts to scale-up the technology in the U.S., while a
major project in South Australia collapsed last year after the developer
failed to secure financing.

Wood said that he hopes to reach financial close on the project around
mid-2021, and start construction on the two-year build shortly after. Wood
said that he was in talks with the government's Clean Energy Finance Corp.
and the Northern Australia Infrastructure Facility on potential funding,
and also expected interest from Australian commercial banks.

"On the equity side, we're already having conversations with a number of
parties from all round the world," Wood said. "There are people who realize
the need for dispatchable renewable energy that's low cost." *— James
Thornhill, Bloomberg*
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Re: [MBZ] Frenzied bidding for a red 100K mile '86 300E 5 speed

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

Interesting commentary on MBZ dealership in the comments section. It's
your car, but we're borrowing/misappropriating  it for a couple weeks so
you can't have it:

Worked for Con-Met, a division of Daimler, in 1985 when we were issued a
300E (automatic) for our general manager’s company car. He sent me on a
two hour trip to pick it up at Snyder’s Mercedes in Greenville SC. It was
a central office sale but sent to the dealer for prep and pick-up. It was
the very first one in SC and the dealer already had it on his showroom
when I arrived.

It was stunning under the showroom spot lights- light blue with palomino
interior. The sales manager refused to hand over the car. Conversation
expanded to the dealer’s GM who said he was keeping the car on his
showroom for two weeks until their first car would arrive. Conversation
expanded to MBNA headquarters with the order to release the car
immediately, which they did.

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Re: [MBZ] OT: More acorns = more chipmunks

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Electrocution sounds humane but what do they look like?  Got a link?

On Tue, Jul 21, 2020 at 11:37 AM Mitch Haley via Mercedes <
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> On Tue, July 21, 2020 11:30 am, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:
> > What bait do you use to trap them?
>
> I hotglue almonds to Victor rat trap triggers.
> I'm interested in hearing what Curt does.
> Everybody who has tried the rat electrocution boxes swears by them.
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Re: [MBZ] OT: More acorns = more chipmunks

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

I like this idea.

-D

> On Jul 21, 2020, at 11:34 AM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> On Tue, July 21, 2020 11:30 am, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:
>> What bait do you use to trap them?
> 
> I hotglue almonds to Victor rat trap triggers.
> I'm interested in hearing what Curt does.
> Everybody who has tried the rat electrocution boxes swears by them.
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Re: [MBZ] Frenzied bidding for a red 100K mile '86 300E 5 speed

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

I might have been harsh.  The car is pretty and it's quite rare...

On Tue, Jul 21, 2020 at 11:33 AM Mitch Haley via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Less boring and much more rare than a 4sp 300E.
> I don't think I've ever seen a bright red 300E before. I have seen an AMG
> Hammer that color. And this is an actual US market 5sp, not gray market.
>
> Datacard says GM transmission. That can't be the dogleg nonoverdrive
> GETRAG from the 2.3-16, can it?
>
> http://mb-teilekatalog.info/view_DatacardAction.php?lang=E=WDBEA30DXGA136615
>
> On Tue, July 21, 2020 11:23 am, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:
> > What is the allure of this car?  I've driven a 5 speed 300E and found it
> > surprisingly boring.
> >
> > https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1986-mercedes-benz-300e-10
>
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Re: [MBZ] OT: More acorns = more chipmunks

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

On Tue, July 21, 2020 11:30 am, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:
> What bait do you use to trap them?

I hotglue almonds to Victor rat trap triggers.
I'm interested in hearing what Curt does.
Everybody who has tried the rat electrocution boxes swears by them.

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Re: [MBZ] Covid 19 Mystery

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Cuomo took a trip to FL to donate no longer needed ventilators and PPE from
NYC.  New Yorkers went through hell but somehow smashed the curve without
experiencing a resurgence (yet).

Cuomo is probably scared to death of NY vacationers bringing back the virus
from their FL vacations.

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mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> On Tue, July 21, 2020 11:10 am, Max Dillon via Mercedes wrote:
> > Further, the number of hospital beds is fungible.  With time, capacity
> > can be added, so that number is important but not necessarily THE number
> > to watch.
>
> What we can do:
> Let's set up another COVID ward.
>
> What we might not be able to do:
> Get 20 ventilators for the new COVID ward.
>
> OTOH, there was a lot of overbuying/overmanufacturing of vents in
> March/April/May when things turned out less bad than was feared.
> Are there still brand new unused vents sitting in warehouses in the USA?
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Re: [MBZ] Frenzied bidding for a red 100K mile '86 300E 5 speed

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

Less boring and much more rare than a 4sp 300E.
I don't think I've ever seen a bright red 300E before. I have seen an AMG
Hammer that color. And this is an actual US market 5sp, not gray market.

Datacard says GM transmission. That can't be the dogleg nonoverdrive
GETRAG from the 2.3-16, can it?
http://mb-teilekatalog.info/view_DatacardAction.php?lang=E=WDBEA30DXGA136615

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> What is the allure of this car?  I've driven a 5 speed 300E and found it
> surprisingly boring.
>
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Re: [MBZ] OT: More acorns = more chipmunks

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What bait do you use to trap them?

On Tue, Jul 21, 2020 at 10:48 AM Curt Raymond  wrote:

> I've removed 13 chippies from the gene pool so far this year, 12 here at
> our house and one at my parent's place. The vast majority of those have
> been trapped, they're very hard to shoot being so small and naturally
> camouflaged.
>
> I'm working on getting a new airgun. The one I have is a cheapo Wal-Mart
> special. I'm debating between made in Turkey with a German barrel or made
> in Germany for more money. I know standard wisdom is to pay up front but
> the Turkish made guns have a good reputation.
>
> -Curt
>
> On Monday, July 20, 2020, 3:28:08 PM EDT, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
>
> I thought of Curt when reading this article.
>
> Are chipmunks more or less of a nuisance than squirrels?
>
> WILDLIFE
> More nuts mean more chipmunks wreaking havoc
>
> Published: Monday, July 20, 2020
> [image: Chipmunk. Photo credit: University of New Hampshire Cooperative
> Extension]
>
> Chipmunks are on the rise in New England, fueled by a large crop of acorns
> last fall. University of New Hampshire Cooperative Extension
>
> There were plenty of acorns this spring, and now the chipmunks are driving
> people nuts.
>
> Their frenetic activities can be entertaining. But this summer in New
> England, the varmints are making a nuisance of themselves, darting to and
> fro, digging holes in gardens, and tunneling under lawns.
>
> Plentiful acorns last fall meant there was still plenty of food on the
> ground when the chipmunks emerged from winter and got busy breeding this
> spring, said Shevenell Webb, a small mammal biologist with the Maine
> Department of Inland Fisheries and Wildlife.
>
> The result is a bumper crop of the critters.
>
> "They're cute. They're fun to watch in the forest as they duck in and out
> of the holes and play peekaboo," Webb said. When their cheeks aren't
> bulging with nuts, chipmunks make a distinctive "chip" sound, she said.
>
> But they're also destructive. They can destroy lawns and gardens with their
> burrowing, and can even get into homes, Webb said.
>
> "We can't grow a tulip without them digging it up," Steven Parren, wildlife
> diversity program manager for the Vermont Department of Fish and Wildlife,
> said of the chipmunks in his yard. "They don't even pause."
>
> There were so many acorns in one of the areas that he monitors that the
> rodents that rely on them couldn't stash them all away for the winter.
> Plenty remained on the ground this spring. In addition to chipmunks, he
> said, he's seeing more squirrels, rabbits and a variety of different kinds
> of mice.
>
> People needn't get too alarmed over an overpopulation. Small mammal
> populations tend to explode, then crash and burn.
>
> Such is life near the bottom of the food chain, where food supply ebbs and
> flows and chipmunks are easy prey for owls, hawks, snakes, foxes and
> raccoons. Even if their lives aren't cut short, individual chipmunks tend
> to live only for three years, Webb said.
>
> Many New Englanders recall a similar spike in squirrel populations in 2018
> in New England. The boom-and-bust cycle was punctuated by a memorable
> number of road kills.
>
> "We've never seen anything like that. That was a once-in-a-lifetime event,"
> Webb said. *— Associated Press*
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[MBZ] Frenzied bidding for a red 100K mile '86 300E 5 speed

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What is the allure of this car?  I've driven a 5 speed 300E and found it
surprisingly boring.

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[MBZ] OT 51 yr ago today

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Re: [MBZ] Chowdah Q XIII - save the,Date?

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It's actually a 500 mile special, which might not get him up to RI from SC.

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> That would be great. As,always our offer is,to pick you up @ BOS or PVD in
> a vintage,Benz
> . But you should drive up in one of your 500.00 specials.
>
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> Wickford RI
>
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> > I actually might be able to make that
> >
> > --FT
> > Sent from iPhone
> >
> > > On Jul 20, 2020, at 8:35 PM, Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes <
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> > >
> > > Good to hear!
> > >
> > > Sent from my iPhone
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> > >> On Jul 20, 2020, at 7:41 PM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes <
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> > >>
> > >> We have Goddard Park reserved with our regular sites,for Sept 12.
> > >> We have,been discussing what food if,any might be safe so stay tuned.
> We
> > >> might have, just Chowdah & steamed clams.
> > >> So save the,date  &  be prepared to bring your own lunch.
> > >> Also i have found a source of MB masks (I know sensitive subject.)
> > >> Unless Goddard Park gets,closed we will carry on.
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Re: [MBZ] Covid 19 Mystery

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On Tue, July 21, 2020 11:10 am, Max Dillon via Mercedes wrote:
> Further, the number of hospital beds is fungible.  With time, capacity
> can be added, so that number is important but not necessarily THE number
> to watch.

What we can do:
Let's set up another COVID ward.

What we might not be able to do:
Get 20 ventilators for the new COVID ward.

OTOH, there was a lot of overbuying/overmanufacturing of vents in
March/April/May when things turned out less bad than was feared.
Are there still brand new unused vents sitting in warehouses in the USA?

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Re: [MBZ] Covid 19 Mystery

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

Further, the number of hospital beds is fungible.  With time, capacity can be 
added, so that number is important but not necessarily THE number to watch.

Max Dillon
Charleston SC

Jul 21, 2020 10:59:08 AM Dan Penoff via Mercedes :

> There will be those who don’t believe or want to accept the 
> numbers/statistics/data no matter who provides it, which is a problem in and 
> of itself.
> 
> How can you quantify “recovered”? Off a ventilator? Discharged from the 
> hospital? What about those with milder cases or symptoms? How do you 
> determine they are recovered? Add to this the related issues some of these 
> patients will have for months if not years that will affect their health. If 
> I get off a ventilator and get discharged but suffer from some sort of 
> related breathing issues from the disease, have I recovered?
> 
> My point is not to challenge, but to show that much of this isn’t 
> quantifiable in a clear and direct manner, so it’s nearly impossible to do 
> so. This is unknown territory for everyone.
> 
> -D
> 
>> On Jul 21, 2020, at 10:50 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> It depends on who you ask I'm sure. I'd like to find a better listing for 
>> open hospital capacity, thats really the measure for how well we've 
>> flattened the curve and how much we can loosen restrictions.
>> I see references to it now and then but its dang hard to find a reliable 
>> number. Well its hard to find really trustworthy numbers for anything I 
>> suppose...
>> 
>> -Curt
>> 
>> On Monday, July 20, 2020, 3:34:51 PM EDT, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> What makes this all confusing and more scary is they continue to report the 
>> number of new cases daily but no the number that recovered that day. In most 
>> cases it just about equals out from what I can tell thru the fog.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Jul 20, 2020, at 12:39 PM, Frederick Moir via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> The question that I keep coming back to is:- show me the numbers!
>>> For example. Just how many angels can dance on the head of a pin? And what
>>> music will be playing?
>>> Apologies to anyone that I may offend.
>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] 2005 Diesel Mercedes Benz - $2500 (Mount Pleasant)

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No, boy that was tempting.

Max Dillon
Charleston SC

Jul 21, 2020 11:00:19 AM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes :

> Listing gone --did Max go buy it?
> 
> --FT
> 
> On 7/20/20 1:28 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes wrote:
>> Yes, but that black death deal is a simple job.  Tedious, but straight 
>> forward.
>> 
>> This deserves a serious look, I may have to call this guy.
>> 
>> Max Dillon
>> Charleston SC
>> 
>> Jul 20, 2020 11:04:47 AM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes :
>> 
>>> Black death car?  Looks nice
>>> 
>>> https://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/d/mount-pleasant-2005-diesel-mercedes-benz/7162558395.html
>>> 
>>> Priced for a quick sale...Cash only...
>>> Original Owner selling the car in Good condition, starts and drives fine. 
>>> All items work, AC, PS, PW, PDL, cruise control, sunroof, trunk opener, 
>>> etc..
>>> 2 sets of keys. Car does need minor maintenance but nothing that prevents 
>>> the car from driving or it’s reliability...
>>> 
>>> Gets 40+ MPG hwy and 30+ MPG city.
>>> 
>>> Tires have fewer then 5K miles on them rated to 50K miles.
>>> Just had oil changed.
>>> Exterior is in good shape and the car has 190K miles.
>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Covid 19 Mystery

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Good point.

-D

> On Jul 21, 2020, at 11:03 AM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> Is 'recovered' the same as 'tested negative'?
> 
> If we keep testing until you test negative, and you test positive 3x, are
> you one case or three? (somebody I know needs an outpatient procedure but
> they won't touch him until he tests negative twice, and I'm wondering how
> many COVID cases he counts for, he finally got a negative last week and is
> waiting for the results of the next test)
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Re: [MBZ] Covid 19 Mystery

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Is 'recovered' the same as 'tested negative'?

If we keep testing until you test negative, and you test positive 3x, are
you one case or three? (somebody I know needs an outpatient procedure but
they won't touch him until he tests negative twice, and I'm wondering how
many COVID cases he counts for, he finally got a negative last week and is
waiting for the results of the next test)

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Re: [MBZ] 2005 Diesel Mercedes Benz - $2500 (Mount Pleasant)

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Listing gone --did Max go buy it?

--FT

On 7/20/20 1:28 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes wrote:

Yes, but that black death deal is a simple job.  Tedious, but straight forward.

This deserves a serious look, I may have to call this guy.

Max Dillon
Charleston SC

Jul 20, 2020 11:04:47 AM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes :


Black death car?  Looks nice

https://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/d/mount-pleasant-2005-diesel-mercedes-benz/7162558395.html

Priced for a quick sale...Cash only...
Original Owner selling the car in Good condition, starts and drives fine. All 
items work, AC, PS, PW, PDL, cruise control, sunroof, trunk opener, etc..
2 sets of keys. Car does need minor maintenance but nothing that prevents the 
car from driving or it’s reliability...

Gets 40+ MPG hwy and 30+ MPG city.

Tires have fewer then 5K miles on them rated to 50K miles.
Just had oil changed.
Exterior is in good shape and the car has 190K miles.

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Re: [MBZ] Covid 19 Mystery

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There will be those who don’t believe or want to accept the 
numbers/statistics/data no matter who provides it, which is a problem in and of 
itself.

How can you quantify “recovered”? Off a ventilator? Discharged from the 
hospital? What about those with milder cases or symptoms? How do you determine 
they are recovered? Add to this the related issues some of these patients will 
have for months if not years that will affect their health. If I get off a 
ventilator and get discharged but suffer from some sort of related breathing 
issues from the disease, have I recovered?

My point is not to challenge, but to show that much of this isn’t quantifiable 
in a clear and direct manner, so it’s nearly impossible to do so. This is 
unknown territory for everyone.

-D

> On Jul 21, 2020, at 10:50 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> It depends on who you ask I'm sure. I'd like to find a better listing for 
> open hospital capacity, thats really the measure for how well we've flattened 
> the curve and how much we can loosen restrictions.
> I see references to it now and then but its dang hard to find a reliable 
> number. Well its hard to find really trustworthy numbers for anything I 
> suppose...
> 
> -Curt
> 
>On Monday, July 20, 2020, 3:34:51 PM EDT, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:  
> 
> What makes this all confusing and more scary is they continue to report the 
> number of new cases daily but no the number that recovered that day. In most 
> cases it just about equals out from what I can tell thru the fog. 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jul 20, 2020, at 12:39 PM, Frederick Moir via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> The question that I keep coming back to is:- show me the numbers!
>> For example. Just how many angels can dance on the head of a pin? And what
>> music will be playing?
>> Apologies to anyone that I may offend.
>> 
>> -- 
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>> Lynn MA
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Re: [MBZ] Covid 19 Mystery

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 It depends on who you ask I'm sure. I'd like to find a better listing for open 
hospital capacity, thats really the measure for how well we've flattened the 
curve and how much we can loosen restrictions.
I see references to it now and then but its dang hard to find a reliable 
number. Well its hard to find really trustworthy numbers for anything I 
suppose...

-Curt

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 wrote:  
 
 What makes this all confusing and more scary is they continue to report the 
number of new cases daily but no the number that recovered that day. In most 
cases it just about equals out from what I can tell thru the fog. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 20, 2020, at 12:39 PM, Frederick Moir via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> The question that I keep coming back to is:- show me the numbers!
> For example. Just how many angels can dance on the head of a pin? And what
> music will be playing?
> Apologies to anyone that I may offend.
> 
> -- 
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Re: [MBZ] OT: More acorns = more chipmunks

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

 I've removed 13 chippies from the gene pool so far this year, 12 here at our 
house and one at my parent's place. The vast majority of those have been 
trapped, they're very hard to shoot being so small and naturally camouflaged.
I'm working on getting a new airgun. The one I have is a cheapo Wal-Mart 
special. I'm debating between made in Turkey with a German barrel or made in 
Germany for more money. I know standard wisdom is to pay up front but the 
Turkish made guns have a good reputation.

-Curt

On Monday, July 20, 2020, 3:28:08 PM EDT, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
 wrote:  
 
 I thought of Curt when reading this article.

Are chipmunks more or less of a nuisance than squirrels?

WILDLIFE
More nuts mean more chipmunks wreaking havoc

Published: Monday, July 20, 2020
[image: Chipmunk. Photo credit: University of New Hampshire Cooperative
Extension]

Chipmunks are on the rise in New England, fueled by a large crop of acorns
last fall. University of New Hampshire Cooperative Extension

There were plenty of acorns this spring, and now the chipmunks are driving
people nuts.

Their frenetic activities can be entertaining. But this summer in New
England, the varmints are making a nuisance of themselves, darting to and
fro, digging holes in gardens, and tunneling under lawns.

Plentiful acorns last fall meant there was still plenty of food on the
ground when the chipmunks emerged from winter and got busy breeding this
spring, said Shevenell Webb, a small mammal biologist with the Maine
Department of Inland Fisheries and Wildlife.

The result is a bumper crop of the critters.

"They're cute. They're fun to watch in the forest as they duck in and out
of the holes and play peekaboo," Webb said. When their cheeks aren't
bulging with nuts, chipmunks make a distinctive "chip" sound, she said.

But they're also destructive. They can destroy lawns and gardens with their
burrowing, and can even get into homes, Webb said.

"We can't grow a tulip without them digging it up," Steven Parren, wildlife
diversity program manager for the Vermont Department of Fish and Wildlife,
said of the chipmunks in his yard. "They don't even pause."

There were so many acorns in one of the areas that he monitors that the
rodents that rely on them couldn't stash them all away for the winter.
Plenty remained on the ground this spring. In addition to chipmunks, he
said, he's seeing more squirrels, rabbits and a variety of different kinds
of mice.

People needn't get too alarmed over an overpopulation. Small mammal
populations tend to explode, then crash and burn.

Such is life near the bottom of the food chain, where food supply ebbs and
flows and chipmunks are easy prey for owls, hawks, snakes, foxes and
raccoons. Even if their lives aren't cut short, individual chipmunks tend
to live only for three years, Webb said.

Many New Englanders recall a similar spike in squirrel populations in 2018
in New England. The boom-and-bust cycle was punctuated by a memorable
number of road kills.

"We've never seen anything like that. That was a once-in-a-lifetime event,"
Webb said. *— Associated Press*
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