Re: [MBZ] Cheap Chinese lifts

[Allan Streib via Mercedes]

Thanks -- I may give the Rotary guys a call to compare. They are made
here in Indiana.

Allan

Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes  writes:

> The 12' ceiling really held me up for a while until I had an experienced
> installer come and look at my space.  Some lifts require that height for
> the columns, but the Mohawk I have has shorter columns with overhead
> hydraulic lines that are adjustable.  I have 10.5' ceilings and can raise
> any car (I've had quite a few, as heavy and large as a long W140) full
> standing height, maximum height of the lift.  I can store a vehicle under
> if needed, as I did a few times this year during winter storms.  A truck or
> tall vehicle would be an issue, but I don't own any of those.
>
> I paid $8k installed for a 7k asymmetrical Mohawk.  No regrets at all.  The
> 7k isn't available anymore and their next smallest lift is quite a bit more
> expensive unfortunately.
>
> Jaime
>
>
> On Wed, Jun 9, 2021 at 3:39 PM Allan Streib via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
>> So what expense (ballpark) would I be looking at to put in a two-post
>> lift?
>>
>> I am guessing it's not justified by the amount of work that I do, on the
>> other hand maybe I'd keep up on stuff better if it was less of a PITA to
>> actually do the work.
>>
>> I do have a three-bay garage but ceiling is 10' and mostly I see 12' as
>> the minimum. In theory I could box out another 2' of height over the
>> center bay, but that would be more .
>>
>> Allan
>>
>> Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes  writes:
>>
>> > Allan,
>> > Trial and error and some common sense!
>> >
>> > I have a Mohawk asymmetrical lift and a balanced load isn't always
>> > obvious due to the angle of the columns.  But you can determine if
>> > you're heavy in one direction or the other based on the load felt
>> > on some of the rollers.
>> >
>> > Jaime
>> >

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Re: [MBZ] One For Dan

[Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes]

I see guys saying they fix the motors with hardware store brushes and all is 
good

--FT
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> On Jun 9, 2021, at 9:36 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> I investigated this one a couple of days ago. Not sure why it’s relisted. 
> Don’t recall the reason for rejecting it after corresponding with the seller. 
> Probably because of miles.
> 
> Found a 2002 ML320 on the local FB Marketplace. Has BAS light and the owner 
> says it needs a yaw sensor, even had the part number. This is a common 
> failure on these but the part is now NLA from Mercedes but it can be found in 
> the aftermarket for around $130. Only problem is that a BAS fault is usually 
> a precursor to an ABS pump motor with bad brushes. It just goes downhill from 
> there. Too bad, as it only like 130k on the clock.
> 
> -D
> 
>> On Jun 9, 2021, at 3:10 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Miles are a bit high. I wonder if has the factory tow package.
>> 
>> https://tampa.craigslist.org/pnl/cto/d/pinellas-park-2002-mercedes-benz-ml320/7334199499.html
>> 
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] My Friends Last Ride

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

A couple of very nice things…

It’s such a raucous movie, and Robert Preston just steals the show.

-D

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> On Jun 9, 2021, at 10:31 PM, Jim Cathey  wrote:
> 
> 
>> 
>> Worth a shot. All I could think of was the movie S.O.B. If you haven’t seen 
>> it that won’t mean anything. A great Blake Edwards film. Robert Preston was 
>> awesome in that film. "I could sue you for calling me that, Polly! A shyster 
>> is a disreputable lawyer. I'M a QUACK!”
> 
> As I recall, there's a couple of things you learn about Julie Andrews, too.  
> :-)
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Yesterday was...

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

And I see a lot of folks on them that are driving them like total morons 
waiting to get killed 

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> On Jun 9, 2021, at 7:00 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> That’s why I stopped riding a motorcycle. Too many inattentive people who 
> would run you off the road and not even realize it because they’re too busy 
> looking at their $#@& cell phones.
> 
> -D
> 
>> On Jun 9, 2021, at 7:54 PM, Clay via Mercedes  wrote:
>> 
>> Reason I stopped riding.  Too many blind dames in rolling coffins pulling 
>> stupid moves that failed to kill me.  Being run over at the grocery store 
>> parking lot sealed the deal.  I were stopped and she just plowed in, T bone 
>> style.
>> 
>> 
>> Clay
>> 
>> 
>> inter urinas et faeces nascimur
>> 
 On Jun 9, 2021, at 3:50 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I always thought about that when I was motorcycling, right of way doesn't 
>>> count for much if you're dead.
>>> The closest call I've ever had on 2 wheels was when my then neighbor turned 
>>> right in front of me. No blinker, not so much as a "how do you do." I 
>>> slapped the rear of the car HARD with my hand as I passed it by inches. The 
>>> guy stopped and jumped out "What did you do that for?" he hadn't seen me, 
>>> had no idea I was there...
>>> -Curt
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Re: [MBZ] My Friends Last Ride

[Jim Cathey via Mercedes]

> Worth a shot. All I could think of was the movie S.O.B. If you haven’t seen 
> it that won’t mean anything. A great Blake Edwards film. Robert Preston was 
> awesome in that film. "I could sue you for calling me that, Polly! A shyster 
> is a disreputable lawyer. I'M a QUACK!”

As I recall, there's a couple of things you learn about Julie Andrews, too.  :-)

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] My Friends Last Ride

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Point well taken. I don’t care what they do when I’m expired, as I’ll be dead.

When we lived in WI and I was traveling a lot, Mrs. Dan had a pact with a 
neighbor lady to assist her in moving my body should I expire at home. The plan 
was to transport me to Chicago and put me in a hotel at O’Hare, after which she 
would call work and ask where I was. The idea being that my life insurance had 
something like triple indemnity if I kicked it while traveling for work.

Worth a shot. All I could think of was the movie S.O.B. If you haven’t seen it 
that won’t mean anything. A great Blake Edwards film. Robert Preston was 
awesome in that film. "I could sue you for calling me that, Polly! A shyster is 
a disreputable lawyer. I'M a QUACK!”

-D



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> "Light the blue touch-paper and retire immediately." Wording on
> Firecrackers/Bangers in UK.
> Fred.
> p.s. I will not care if I am dead. Funerals are for the living.
> 
> On Wed, Jun 9, 2021 at 8:47 PM Dwight Giles via Mercedes <
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> 
>> I would like mine to be in a 123 Todeswagen
>> 
>> Dwight Giles Jr.
>> Wickford RI
>> 
>> On Wed, Jun 9, 2021, 7:51 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
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>> wrote:
>> 
>>> Nice last ride. I would want mine to be in a Universal or Binz
>> conversion.
>>> 
>>> -D
>>> 
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 Wow. When did hearses become so fancy?
 
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Re: [MBZ] My Friends Last Ride

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Great points Fred. But i can fantasize

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> Fred.
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>
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>
> > I would like mine to be in a 123 Todeswagen
> >
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> >
> > On Wed, Jun 9, 2021, 7:51 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
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> > wrote:
> >
> > > Nice last ride. I would want mine to be in a Universal or Binz
> > conversion.
> > >
> > > -D
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> > > > Wow. When did hearses become so fancy?
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Re: [MBZ] My Friends Last Ride

[Frederick Moir via Mercedes]

I'm a peasant. So, freshly washed garbage truck for me, bin extra.
"Light the blue touch-paper and retire immediately." Wording on
Firecrackers/Bangers in UK.
Fred.
p.s. I will not care if I am dead. Funerals are for the living.

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> I would like mine to be in a 123 Todeswagen
>
> Dwight Giles Jr.
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>
> On Wed, Jun 9, 2021, 7:51 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
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> > Nice last ride. I would want mine to be in a Universal or Binz
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Re: [MBZ] Shed Lights

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

 Camp now has 2 garages (besides the barn at the new house). I hesitate to tell 
anybody about it...
-Curt

On Wednesday, June 9, 2021, 9:32:38 PM EDT, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
 wrote:  
 
 What if you have two sheds?

Asking for a friend (Arthur “Two Sheds” Jackson)

-D

> On Jun 9, 2021, at 9:26 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> I've installed a couple of Harbor Freight bar lights in my garage. They're 
> very bright for fairly little power. Next time I'm up north I plan to put a 
> few in the basement of the new house.
> -Curt
> 
>    On Wednesday, June 9, 2021, 9:13:34 PM EDT, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
> wrote:  
> 
> I’ve been seeing ads on the book of faces for these kinds of really bright 
> LED shop lights. Intriguing. You don’t need but a few. This guy is putting 
> some in from one vendor. 
> 
> https://youtu.be/Cuam5xMnu24
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Re: [MBZ] One For Dan

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

I investigated this one a couple of days ago. Not sure why it’s relisted. Don’t 
recall the reason for rejecting it after corresponding with the seller. 
Probably because of miles.

Found a 2002 ML320 on the local FB Marketplace. Has BAS light and the owner 
says it needs a yaw sensor, even had the part number. This is a common failure 
on these but the part is now NLA from Mercedes but it can be found in the 
aftermarket for around $130. Only problem is that a BAS fault is usually a 
precursor to an ABS pump motor with bad brushes. It just goes downhill from 
there. Too bad, as it only like 130k on the clock.

-D

> On Jun 9, 2021, at 3:10 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes  
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> 
> Miles are a bit high. I wonder if has the factory tow package.
> 
> https://tampa.craigslist.org/pnl/cto/d/pinellas-park-2002-mercedes-benz-ml320/7334199499.html
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Re: [MBZ] Shed Lights

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

What if you have two sheds?

Asking for a friend (Arthur “Two Sheds” Jackson)

-D

> On Jun 9, 2021, at 9:26 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> I've installed a couple of Harbor Freight bar lights in my garage. They're 
> very bright for fairly little power. Next time I'm up north I plan to put a 
> few in the basement of the new house.
> -Curt
> 
>On Wednesday, June 9, 2021, 9:13:34 PM EDT, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
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> 
> I’ve been seeing ads on the book of faces for these kinds of really bright 
> LED shop lights. Intriguing. You don’t need but a few. This guy is putting 
> some in from one vendor. 
> 
> https://youtu.be/Cuam5xMnu24
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Re: [MBZ] Shed Lights

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I've installed a couple of Harbor Freight bar lights in my garage. They're very 
bright for fairly little power. Next time I'm up north I plan to put a few in 
the basement of the new house.
-Curt

On Wednesday, June 9, 2021, 9:13:34 PM EDT, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
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 I’ve been seeing ads on the book of faces for these kinds of really bright LED 
shop lights. Intriguing. You don’t need but a few. This guy is putting some in 
from one vendor. 

https://youtu.be/Cuam5xMnu24

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[MBZ] Shed Lights

[Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes]

I’ve been seeing ads on the book of faces for these kinds of really bright LED 
shop lights. Intriguing. You don’t need but a few. This guy is putting some in 
from one vendor. 

https://youtu.be/Cuam5xMnu24

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Re: [MBZ] My Friends Last Ride

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I would like mine to be in a 123 Todeswagen

Dwight Giles Jr.
Wickford RI

On Wed, Jun 9, 2021, 7:51 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
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> Nice last ride. I would want mine to be in a Universal or Binz conversion.
>
> -D
>
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Re: [MBZ] Cheap Chinese lifts

[Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes]

The 12' ceiling really held me up for a while until I had an experienced
installer come and look at my space.  Some lifts require that height for
the columns, but the Mohawk I have has shorter columns with overhead
hydraulic lines that are adjustable.  I have 10.5' ceilings and can raise
any car (I've had quite a few, as heavy and large as a long W140) full
standing height, maximum height of the lift.  I can store a vehicle under
if needed, as I did a few times this year during winter storms.  A truck or
tall vehicle would be an issue, but I don't own any of those.

I paid $8k installed for a 7k asymmetrical Mohawk.  No regrets at all.  The
7k isn't available anymore and their next smallest lift is quite a bit more
expensive unfortunately.

Jaime


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> So what expense (ballpark) would I be looking at to put in a two-post
> lift?
>
> I am guessing it's not justified by the amount of work that I do, on the
> other hand maybe I'd keep up on stuff better if it was less of a PITA to
> actually do the work.
>
> I do have a three-bay garage but ceiling is 10' and mostly I see 12' as
> the minimum. In theory I could box out another 2' of height over the
> center bay, but that would be more .
>
> Allan
>
> Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes  writes:
>
> > Allan,
> > Trial and error and some common sense!
> >
> > I have a Mohawk asymmetrical lift and a balanced load isn't always
> obvious
> > due to the angle of the columns.  But you can determine if you're heavy
> in
> > one direction or the other based on the load felt on some of the rollers.
> >
> > Jaime
> >
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Re: [MBZ] Yesterday was...

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

A few weeks ago, I was following a Porch Boxster.  Older grey haired couple, 
top down.  Speed limit was 40, I was probably going about 45 and coming up on 
them from behind.

The light turned yellow, I stepped on the gas, he stepped on his brakes.  He 
stopped midway through the intersection, blocking the cross traffic.  I 
transitioned to braking as fast as I could, had to hit the shoulder to avoid 
rear ending the Boxster.  Anti-Lock brake system got a good work out.  Ended up 
almost next to him.

I still don't understand why he decided to try to stop for the yellow light.  
He decided to back up to let cross traffic flow, almost backed into me.  

Max Dillon
Charleston SC


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Re: [MBZ] 190E Cosworth Pahtz

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

On 2021-06-09 19:19, Frederick Moir via Mercedes wrote:

https://newhaven.craigslist.org/pts/d/wallingford-190e-16v-cosworth-parts/7325714599.html


Thanks. I can always use a spare leveling valve if it still has SLS and 
the spheres aren't blown (the control valve goes a few miles after the 
spheres if you drive on flooded spheres).


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Re: [MBZ] Froggy

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

How did she get your number?

Max Dillon
Charleston SC


Jun 9, 2021 7:35:19 PM Clay via Mercedes :

> got off a long call with the gal who purchased the SL.  Nice to know that it 
> was going to somebody who will take extra care and keep the car on the road.  
> She was pretty stoked to get all the spare parts, lots of records and 
> brochures.  She had been wanting a green SL for a long time and now it is 
> parked at her place.
> 
> clay monroe
> 
> 1974 450sl -  Frosch - Two tone green
> 2014 ‘yota Highlander - Haggis
> 
> Retired-
> 1986 SDL- Polei
> 2002 s430 - Victor, a Stately & well tailored crap
> 1982 SD - Allen
> 1976 300D - Das Blei - Lead Sled
> 1972 220D - Gump - She was green, simple and ran and ran
> 1995 E300D - Gave her life against a dame in a SUV
> POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers
> 
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Yesterday was...

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

That’s why I stopped riding a motorcycle. Too many inattentive people who would 
run you off the road and not even realize it because they’re too busy looking 
at their $#@& cell phones.

-D

> On Jun 9, 2021, at 7:54 PM, Clay via Mercedes  wrote:
> 
> Reason I stopped riding.  Too many blind dames in rolling coffins pulling 
> stupid moves that failed to kill me.  Being run over at the grocery store 
> parking lot sealed the deal.  I were stopped and she just plowed in, T bone 
> style.
> 
> 
> Clay
> 
> 
> inter urinas et faeces nascimur
> 
>> On Jun 9, 2021, at 3:50 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> I always thought about that when I was motorcycling, right of way doesn't 
>> count for much if you're dead.
>> The closest call I've ever had on 2 wheels was when my then neighbor turned 
>> right in front of me. No blinker, not so much as a "how do you do." I 
>> slapped the rear of the car HARD with my hand as I passed it by inches. The 
>> guy stopped and jumped out "What did you do that for?" he hadn't seen me, 
>> had no idea I was there...
>> -Curt
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Re: [MBZ] Yesterday was...

[Clay via Mercedes]

Reason I stopped riding.  Too many blind dames in rolling coffins pulling 
stupid moves that failed to kill me.  Being run over at the grocery store 
parking lot sealed the deal.  I were stopped and she just plowed in, T bone 
style.


Clay


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> On Jun 9, 2021, at 3:50 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> I always thought about that when I was motorcycling, right of way doesn't 
> count for much if you're dead.
> The closest call I've ever had on 2 wheels was when my then neighbor turned 
> right in front of me. No blinker, not so much as a "how do you do." I slapped 
> the rear of the car HARD with my hand as I passed it by inches. The guy 
> stopped and jumped out "What did you do that for?" he hadn't seen me, had no 
> idea I was there...
> -Curt

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Re: [MBZ] Cheap Chinese lifts

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

 When I buy a lift it'll be a Wildfire 4 post. Watch the Vice Grip Garage 
video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XgX8gSjy-KAMustie1 has one too, he 
assembled it himself.

I like the idea of being able to move it around. I also like the idea of being 
able to park a car under it and the fact that it runs on 110v.
-Curt

On Wednesday, June 9, 2021, 7:45:34 PM EDT, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
 wrote:  
 
 And with a four post you might have enough height to stack cars. My brother 
in-law’s neighbor has two of these in his three car garage. He keeps four cars 
in those two bays - one on each lift, one parked below. You can’t have 
something like an SUV, but I think he has Mustangs and Camaros.

-D

> On Jun 9, 2021, at 7:15 PM, Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> A Mohawk lift is designed to work with low ceiling clearance. 10” will 
> suffice I believe. The other conventional two post lifts do require higher 
> ceilings as you mentioned. The slightly more budget friendly (and it’s not 
> budget friendly)  7K Mohawk is no longer in production so you’re stuck 
> forking up even more for a 10K lb capacity Mohawk System 1A lift which is 
> outrageously expensive.
> 
> There are cheap or cheaper 4 post lifts out there that will work with low 
> ceiling clearances though.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jun 9, 2021, at 3:39 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> So what expense (ballpark) would I be looking at to put in a two-post
>> lift?
>> 
>> I am guessing it's not justified by the amount of work that I do, on the
>> other hand maybe I'd keep up on stuff better if it was less of a PITA to
>> actually do the work.
>> 
>> I do have a three-bay garage but ceiling is 10' and mostly I see 12' as
>> the minimum. In theory I could box out another 2' of height over the
>> center bay, but that would be more .
>> 
>> Allan
>> 
>> Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes  writes:
>> 
>>> Allan,
>>> Trial and error and some common sense!
>>> 
>>> I have a Mohawk asymmetrical lift and a balanced load isn't always obvious
>>> due to the angle of the columns.  But you can determine if you're heavy in
>>> one direction or the other based on the load felt on some of the rollers.
>>> 
>>> Jaime
>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] My Friends Last Ride

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Nice last ride. I would want mine to be in a Universal or Binz conversion.

-D

> On Jun 9, 2021, at 3:26 PM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Wow. When did hearses become so fancy?
> 
> AZBob
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Yesterday was...

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

 I always thought about that when I was motorcycling, right of way doesn't 
count for much if you're dead.
The closest call I've ever had on 2 wheels was when my then neighbor turned 
right in front of me. No blinker, not so much as a "how do you do." I slapped 
the rear of the car HARD with my hand as I passed it by inches. The guy stopped 
and jumped out "What did you do that for?" he hadn't seen me, had no idea I was 
there...
-Curt

On Wednesday, June 9, 2021, 7:29:28 PM EDT, Frederick Moir via Mercedes 
 wrote:  
 
 Alles.
When I was 19 and a new driver, my mum gave me this:-
Here lays the body of Theodore Hay
He died maintaining his right-of-way
He was right, quite right as he sped along
But he's just as dead as if he were wrong.

Lesson learned.

On Wed, Jun 9, 2021 at 7:14 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> This is a problem we’ve had in my neighborhood for some years. We have
> excellent sidewalks, but the bike riders who choose to ride in the street,
> often the “Tour de France” wanna-bes, ride in the middle of the road, won’t
> yield, and rarely, if ever, signal or observe signs, like stop signs.
>
> I was driving my 220SEb one day and discovered the fuel pump was starting
> to crap out. I was nursing the car home, hoping to make it all the way and
> not being terribly attentive (my fault.) A local rider went through a
> three-way intersection in front of me without stopping, and I nearly hit
> him. He proceeded to yell at me and express his displeasure non-verbally.
> Pulled up along side him and asked if he would like to get a ticket for
> running a stop sign, to which he said, “I don’t have to stop if I don’t
> want to.”
>
> It’s this mentality that pits people against idiots like this.
>
> There was a section of a major road in our neighborhood that was three
> lanes wide, marked as a two lane road with very wide lanes. Local bike
> advocates bitched constantly to the local government about how dangerous it
> was because of speeding cars along this stretch. They actually got the
> County to put in a center median to close down the road to two regular
> width lanes, which no longer accommodate bikers. Along with this they went
> around the whole neighborhood and put down these green reflective “bike
> lane” markers on the road, despite the roads all being standard two lane
> widths. not sure what that’s supposed to accomplish.
>
> To put a cherry on top of these improvements, a couple of months after the
> center median was put in a speeding car wrecked along this stretch of road,
> running into a tree and killing the driver. They also hit a bicyclist when
> they wrecked, having to airlift them to the local trauma center for their
> injuries.
>
> So much for that bright idea, eh?
>
> As a former cross country cyclist when I lived in WI, like trips of 20-50
> miles a day, I have nothing but respect for other users of the road and did
> my best to comply with the rules and regulations. That being said, I truly
> believe there are idiots out there driving cars who purposely brush riders
> back or attempt to sideswipe them on purpose.
>
> -D
>
>
>
> > On Jun 9, 2021, at 5:46 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > I was glad to see that the law does mention some rider responsibilities
> too. Around where my folks live there were a few riding groups that also
> wanted to go out and see the sights, its the coast of Maine, seems nice
> right? Well these folks thought they could just get out of work a little
> early and go for a ride. So every Friday night around 4:30pm 20 or so
> riders would go 5 abreast all around town, during rush hour. They wouldn't
> yield for anybody and you had to creep along behind them until you parted
> ways with them. They were totally obnoxious. If you were sitting at a stop
> sign they would swarm around you and then take off ahead of you, often
> cutting off traffic and nearly causing accidents.
> > This went on for about a month until enough people called the police
> that the group was met by a group of officers whole explained that they
> could ride politely or not ride at all. They tried to keep up their antics
> and were quickly shut down, IIRC bikes were impounded, charges were filed.
> It got quite messy for awhile...
> > -Curt
> >
> >
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Re: [MBZ] Froggy

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Sounds like you made a good placement.

Dwight Giles Jr.
Wickford RI

On Wed, Jun 9, 2021, 7:45 PM Clay via Mercedes 
wrote:

> true.  The good part is her boyfriend is a Motorhead with a classic
> porsche and a bunch of old german bikes.  Out to be able to figure out how
> best to keep the SL on the road.
>
> Clay
>
>
> inter urinas et faeces nascimur
>
> > On Jun 9, 2021, at 3:38 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > That’s gratifying and eases The pain of letting it go
> >
> > --FT
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Re: [MBZ] Froggy

[Clay via Mercedes]

true.  The good part is her boyfriend is a Motorhead with a classic porsche and 
a bunch of old german bikes.  Out to be able to figure out how best to keep the 
SL on the road.  

Clay


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> On Jun 9, 2021, at 3:38 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> That’s gratifying and eases The pain of letting it go
> 
> --FT
> Sent from iPhone

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Re: [MBZ] Cheap Chinese lifts

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

And with a four post you might have enough height to stack cars. My brother 
in-law’s neighbor has two of these in his three car garage. He keeps four cars 
in those two bays - one on each lift, one parked below. You can’t have 
something like an SUV, but I think he has Mustangs and Camaros.

-D

> On Jun 9, 2021, at 7:15 PM, Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> A Mohawk lift is designed to work with low ceiling clearance. 10” will 
> suffice I believe. The other conventional two post lifts do require higher 
> ceilings as you mentioned. The slightly more budget friendly (and it’s not 
> budget friendly)  7K Mohawk is no longer in production so you’re stuck 
> forking up even more for a 10K lb capacity Mohawk System 1A lift which is 
> outrageously expensive.
> 
> There are cheap or cheaper 4 post lifts out there that will work with low 
> ceiling clearances though.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jun 9, 2021, at 3:39 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> So what expense (ballpark) would I be looking at to put in a two-post
>> lift?
>> 
>> I am guessing it's not justified by the amount of work that I do, on the
>> other hand maybe I'd keep up on stuff better if it was less of a PITA to
>> actually do the work.
>> 
>> I do have a three-bay garage but ceiling is 10' and mostly I see 12' as
>> the minimum. In theory I could box out another 2' of height over the
>> center bay, but that would be more .
>> 
>> Allan
>> 
>> Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes  writes:
>> 
>>> Allan,
>>> Trial and error and some common sense!
>>> 
>>> I have a Mohawk asymmetrical lift and a balanced load isn't always obvious
>>> due to the angle of the columns.  But you can determine if you're heavy in
>>> one direction or the other based on the load felt on some of the rollers.
>>> 
>>> Jaime
>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Froggy

[Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes]

That’s gratifying and eases The pain of letting it go

--FT
Sent from iPhone

> On Jun 9, 2021, at 7:35 PM, Clay via Mercedes  wrote:
> 
> got off a long call with the gal who purchased the SL.  Nice to know that it 
> was going to somebody who will take extra care and keep the car on the road.  
> She was pretty stoked to get all the spare parts, lots of records and 
> brochures.  She had been wanting a green SL for a long time and now it is 
> parked at her place.
> 
> clay monroe
> 
> 1974 450sl -  Frosch - Two tone green
> 2014 ‘yota Highlander - Haggis
> 
> Retired-
> 1986 SDL- Polei
> 2002 s430 - Victor, a Stately & well tailored crap
> 1982 SD - Allen
> 1976 300D - Das Blei - Lead Sled
> 1972 220D - Gump - She was green, simple and ran and ran
> 1995 E300D - Gave her life against a dame in a SUV
> POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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[MBZ] Froggy

[Clay via Mercedes]

got off a long call with the gal who purchased the SL.  Nice to know that it 
was going to somebody who will take extra care and keep the car on the road.  
She was pretty stoked to get all the spare parts, lots of records and 
brochures.  She had been wanting a green SL for a long time and now it is 
parked at her place.

clay monroe

1974 450sl -  Frosch - Two tone green
2014 ‘yota Highlander - Haggis

Retired-
1986 SDL- Polei
2002 s430 - Victor, a Stately & well tailored crap
1982 SD - Allen
1976 300D - Das Blei - Lead Sled
1972 220D - Gump - She was green, simple and ran and ran
1995 E300D - Gave her life against a dame in a SUV
POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers













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Re: [MBZ] Yesterday was...

[Frederick Moir via Mercedes]

Alles.
When I was 19 and a new driver, my mum gave me this:-
Here lays the body of Theodore Hay
He died maintaining his right-of-way
He was right, quite right as he sped along
But he's just as dead as if he were wrong.

Lesson learned.

On Wed, Jun 9, 2021 at 7:14 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> This is a problem we’ve had in my neighborhood for some years. We have
> excellent sidewalks, but the bike riders who choose to ride in the street,
> often the “Tour de France” wanna-bes, ride in the middle of the road, won’t
> yield, and rarely, if ever, signal or observe signs, like stop signs.
>
> I was driving my 220SEb one day and discovered the fuel pump was starting
> to crap out. I was nursing the car home, hoping to make it all the way and
> not being terribly attentive (my fault.) A local rider went through a
> three-way intersection in front of me without stopping, and I nearly hit
> him. He proceeded to yell at me and express his displeasure non-verbally.
> Pulled up along side him and asked if he would like to get a ticket for
> running a stop sign, to which he said, “I don’t have to stop if I don’t
> want to.”
>
> It’s this mentality that pits people against idiots like this.
>
> There was a section of a major road in our neighborhood that was three
> lanes wide, marked as a two lane road with very wide lanes. Local bike
> advocates bitched constantly to the local government about how dangerous it
> was because of speeding cars along this stretch. They actually got the
> County to put in a center median to close down the road to two regular
> width lanes, which no longer accommodate bikers. Along with this they went
> around the whole neighborhood and put down these green reflective “bike
> lane” markers on the road, despite the roads all being standard two lane
> widths. not sure what that’s supposed to accomplish.
>
> To put a cherry on top of these improvements, a couple of months after the
> center median was put in a speeding car wrecked along this stretch of road,
> running into a tree and killing the driver. They also hit a bicyclist when
> they wrecked, having to airlift them to the local trauma center for their
> injuries.
>
> So much for that bright idea, eh?
>
> As a former cross country cyclist when I lived in WI, like trips of 20-50
> miles a day, I have nothing but respect for other users of the road and did
> my best to comply with the rules and regulations. That being said, I truly
> believe there are idiots out there driving cars who purposely brush riders
> back or attempt to sideswipe them on purpose.
>
> -D
>
>
>
> > On Jun 9, 2021, at 5:46 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > I was glad to see that the law does mention some rider responsibilities
> too. Around where my folks live there were a few riding groups that also
> wanted to go out and see the sights, its the coast of Maine, seems nice
> right? Well these folks thought they could just get out of work a little
> early and go for a ride. So every Friday night around 4:30pm 20 or so
> riders would go 5 abreast all around town, during rush hour. They wouldn't
> yield for anybody and you had to creep along behind them until you parted
> ways with them. They were totally obnoxious. If you were sitting at a stop
> sign they would swarm around you and then take off ahead of you, often
> cutting off traffic and nearly causing accidents.
> > This went on for about a month until enough people called the police
> that the group was met by a group of officers whole explained that they
> could ride politely or not ride at all. They tried to keep up their antics
> and were quickly shut down, IIRC bikes were impounded, charges were filed.
> It got quite messy for awhile...
> > -Curt
> >
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[MBZ] 190E Cosworth Pahtz

[Frederick Moir via Mercedes]

https://newhaven.craigslist.org/pts/d/wallingford-190e-16v-cosworth-parts/7325714599.html

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Re: [MBZ] Cheap Chinese lifts

[Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes]

A Mohawk lift is designed to work with low ceiling clearance. 10” will suffice 
I believe. The other conventional two post lifts do require higher ceilings as 
you mentioned. The slightly more budget friendly (and it’s not budget friendly) 
 7K Mohawk is no longer in production so you’re stuck forking up even more for 
a 10K lb capacity Mohawk System 1A lift which is outrageously expensive.

There are cheap or cheaper 4 post lifts out there that will work with low 
ceiling clearances though.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jun 9, 2021, at 3:39 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> So what expense (ballpark) would I be looking at to put in a two-post
> lift?
> 
> I am guessing it's not justified by the amount of work that I do, on the
> other hand maybe I'd keep up on stuff better if it was less of a PITA to
> actually do the work.
> 
> I do have a three-bay garage but ceiling is 10' and mostly I see 12' as
> the minimum. In theory I could box out another 2' of height over the
> center bay, but that would be more .
> 
> Allan
> 
> Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes  writes:
> 
>> Allan,
>> Trial and error and some common sense!
>> 
>> I have a Mohawk asymmetrical lift and a balanced load isn't always obvious
>> due to the angle of the columns.  But you can determine if you're heavy in
>> one direction or the other based on the load felt on some of the rollers.
>> 
>> Jaime
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Yesterday was...

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

This is a problem we’ve had in my neighborhood for some years. We have 
excellent sidewalks, but the bike riders who choose to ride in the street, 
often the “Tour de France” wanna-bes, ride in the middle of the road, won’t 
yield, and rarely, if ever, signal or observe signs, like stop signs.

I was driving my 220SEb one day and discovered the fuel pump was starting to 
crap out. I was nursing the car home, hoping to make it all the way and not 
being terribly attentive (my fault.) A local rider went through a three-way 
intersection in front of me without stopping, and I nearly hit him. He 
proceeded to yell at me and express his displeasure non-verbally. Pulled up 
along side him and asked if he would like to get a ticket for running a stop 
sign, to which he said, “I don’t have to stop if I don’t want to.”

It’s this mentality that pits people against idiots like this.

There was a section of a major road in our neighborhood that was three lanes 
wide, marked as a two lane road with very wide lanes. Local bike advocates 
bitched constantly to the local government about how dangerous it was because 
of speeding cars along this stretch. They actually got the County to put in a 
center median to close down the road to two regular width lanes, which no 
longer accommodate bikers. Along with this they went around the whole 
neighborhood and put down these green reflective “bike lane” markers on the 
road, despite the roads all being standard two lane widths. not sure what 
that’s supposed to accomplish.

To put a cherry on top of these improvements, a couple of months after the 
center median was put in a speeding car wrecked along this stretch of road, 
running into a tree and killing the driver. They also hit a bicyclist when they 
wrecked, having to airlift them to the local trauma center for their injuries.

So much for that bright idea, eh?

As a former cross country cyclist when I lived in WI, like trips of 20-50 miles 
a day, I have nothing but respect for other users of the road and did my best 
to comply with the rules and regulations. That being said, I truly believe 
there are idiots out there driving cars who purposely brush riders back or 
attempt to sideswipe them on purpose.

-D



> On Jun 9, 2021, at 5:46 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> I was glad to see that the law does mention some rider responsibilities too. 
> Around where my folks live there were a few riding groups that also wanted to 
> go out and see the sights, its the coast of Maine, seems nice right? Well 
> these folks thought they could just get out of work a little early and go for 
> a ride. So every Friday night around 4:30pm 20 or so riders would go 5 
> abreast all around town, during rush hour. They wouldn't yield for anybody 
> and you had to creep along behind them until you parted ways with them. They 
> were totally obnoxious. If you were sitting at a stop sign they would swarm 
> around you and then take off ahead of you, often cutting off traffic and 
> nearly causing accidents.
> This went on for about a month until enough people called the police that the 
> group was met by a group of officers whole explained that they could ride 
> politely or not ride at all. They tried to keep up their antics and were 
> quickly shut down, IIRC bikes were impounded, charges were filed. It got 
> quite messy for awhile...
> -Curt
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Yesterday was...

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Around here fancy bikers NEVER stop at stop signs.  Really p*sse*s  me off,
just this side of road r*ge.

On Wed, Jun 9, 2021 at 6:45 PM Allan Streib via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Floyd Thursby via Mercedes  writes:
>
> > the car is always going to win
>
> This is why I've stopped cycling. I think the difference in speeds and
> mass between motor vehicles and bicycles makes it fundamentally unsafe
> for them to share the same roads. Awareness and courtesy (on both sides)
> helps, but doesn't really change that.
>
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Re: [MBZ] Yesterday was...

[Allan Streib via Mercedes]

Floyd Thursby via Mercedes  writes:

> the car is always going to win

This is why I've stopped cycling. I think the difference in speeds and
mass between motor vehicles and bicycles makes it fundamentally unsafe
for them to share the same roads. Awareness and courtesy (on both sides)
helps, but doesn't really change that.

Allan

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Re: [MBZ] 2017 Mercedes-Benz B-Class B 250e Hatchback 4D hatchback Blue - - $20, 990

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Cheaper than a 2014 Bluetec diesel sedan.  Wonder what the range is and
where/how to recharge...

On Wed, Jun 9, 2021 at 3:24 PM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Here's an electromobile.  Looks cheap and cobbled together
>
>
> https://greensboro.craigslist.org/ctd/d/greensboro-2017-mercedes-benz-class/7334144565.html
>
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Re: [MBZ] Seems cheap for a diesel 2008 Mercedes-Benz E-Class E 320 BLUETEC Sedan 4D, $5, 600

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Great buy except for the scrofulitic wood dash.

On Wed, Jun 9, 2021 at 3:28 PM Max Dillon via Mercedes <
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> Kaleb picks those up for a grand.
>
> Max Dillon
> Charleston SC
>
>
> Jun 9, 2021 3:17:34 PM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes :
>
> > Looks fairly decent, 132kmi
> >
> > https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/523866422307140
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Re: [MBZ] Yesterday was...

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

people like this who fail to follow common courtesy (and the law) are 
what cause problems for everyone.  I've ridden with large groups too, we 
always tried to be courteous and follow common-sense rules (and within 
the law, which some drivers don't like), and if anyone acted otherwise 
they were asked to get with the plan or leave the group.  A lot of it 
comes from ignorance of how things work, but there are always a few who 
think they don't have to follow any rules.  I have actually called out 
some cyclistas who were acting fools like that, usually it might have 
had some temporary effect.   One thing that most anyone with any 
experience realizes is 1) the car is always going to win and 2) it costs 
nothing to demonstrate some courtesy.  But on the flip side a lot of 
drivers have some completely irrational hatred of anyone on a bike and 
will do really stupid dangerous stuff to show that, sometimes with fatal 
results.  I don't understand it.  That's why I carry now when I ride...


As a manager once told me, you can be right, and you can be dead right.

--FT

On 6/9/21 5:46 PM, Curt Raymond wrote:
I was glad to see that the law does mention some rider 
responsibilities too. Around where my folks live there were a few 
riding groups that also wanted to go out and see the sights, its the 
coast of Maine, seems nice right? Well these folks thought they could 
just get out of work a little early and go for a ride. So every Friday 
night around 4:30pm 20 or so riders would go 5 abreast all around 
town, during rush hour. They wouldn't yield for anybody and you had to 
creep along behind them until you parted ways with them. They were 
totally obnoxious. If you were sitting at a stop sign they would swarm 
around you and then take off ahead of you, often cutting off traffic 
and nearly causing accidents.


This went on for about a month until enough people called the police 
that the group was met by a group of officers whole explained that 
they could ride politely or not ride at all. They tried to keep up 
their antics and were quickly shut down, IIRC bikes were impounded, 
charges were filed. It got quite messy for awhile...


-Curt

On Wednesday, June 9, 2021, 5:36:39 PM EDT, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
 wrote:



yeah but for some reason they need to be codified to keep the idiots
somewhat in line.

A coupla years ago there was a group doing these tour rides around here,
maybe a dozen people would sign up for a week or two and they would have
vans to take the riders to different areas around to ride maybe 30 or 40
miles a day, just see the sights, have a picnic somewhere nice.  I saw a
group of them at one point and chatted with them, had seen the vans
carrying the people and the bikes a few times.  Some woman on the next
island over took exception to being inconvenienced (meaning she had to
wait maybe 20sec to pass the group, if that, on roads that are seldom
busy, which is why they were riding out there) as she was towing a horse
trailer.  She got on FB and started ranting about how she was going to
"take out" the whole group next time they got in her way, her big truck
and 7000lb horse trailer would make short work of them. She was proud
of that.  I pointed out that this would be premeditated murder if she
did so, or even if she was ever involved in an incident with a cyclist
it would show premeditation to do harm, and that would be really Not
Good for her prognosis at the hands of Peter Wilborn (who wrote the
law).  I shared the post and the subsequent discussion with a friend who
runs the local cycling group, she shared it with the Sheriff who
immediately dispatched 2 deputies to this woman's residence and sat down
with her for quite some time and explained what she had gotten herself 
into.


Subsequent to that some of her peeps determined that this tour company
did not have a County business license and were doing business in the
County (which was something of a stretch, as there are any number of
outfits that do business in the County without a license, trucking
companies and whatnot, and any others you could think of that do not
have a physical presence. These people hounded the tour companies and
County staff about it for weeks, whether they were justified or not.  In
any case this tour company and another one said F it and quit doing
tours, to the detriment of other businesses that benefited from the
people -- hotels, restaurants, whatever else.

These are the mentalities that laws are needed to address, unfortunately
usually after the fact of a incident.  I have been involved in one or
two others where aggressive drivers who were inconvenienced by a few
seconds gave me a brushback, one of them I chased down into a parking
lot where he was working at a restaurant, got pics of him and his truck
and went to the Sheriffs Office local station and was going to file an
incident report and get some action going.  The cops were pleasant
enough until they recognized the individual, a young 

Re: [MBZ] Yesterday was...

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

 I was glad to see that the law does mention some rider responsibilities too. 
Around where my folks live there were a few riding groups that also wanted to 
go out and see the sights, its the coast of Maine, seems nice right? Well these 
folks thought they could just get out of work a little early and go for a ride. 
So every Friday night around 4:30pm 20 or so riders would go 5 abreast all 
around town, during rush hour. They wouldn't yield for anybody and you had to 
creep along behind them until you parted ways with them. They were totally 
obnoxious. If you were sitting at a stop sign they would swarm around you and 
then take off ahead of you, often cutting off traffic and nearly causing 
accidents.
This went on for about a month until enough people called the police that the 
group was met by a group of officers whole explained that they could ride 
politely or not ride at all. They tried to keep up their antics and were 
quickly shut down, IIRC bikes were impounded, charges were filed. It got quite 
messy for awhile...
-Curt

On Wednesday, June 9, 2021, 5:36:39 PM EDT, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
 wrote:  
 
 yeah but for some reason they need to be codified to keep the idiots 
somewhat in line.

A coupla years ago there was a group doing these tour rides around here, 
maybe a dozen people would sign up for a week or two and they would have 
vans to take the riders to different areas around to ride maybe 30 or 40 
miles a day, just see the sights, have a picnic somewhere nice.  I saw a 
group of them at one point and chatted with them, had seen the vans 
carrying the people and the bikes a few times.  Some woman on the next 
island over took exception to being inconvenienced (meaning she had to 
wait maybe 20sec to pass the group, if that, on roads that are seldom 
busy, which is why they were riding out there) as she was towing a horse 
trailer.  She got on FB and started ranting about how she was going to 
"take out" the whole group next time they got in her way, her big truck 
and 7000lb horse trailer would make short work of them.  She was proud 
of that.  I pointed out that this would be premeditated murder if she 
did so, or even if she was ever involved in an incident with a cyclist 
it would show premeditation to do harm, and that would be really Not 
Good for her prognosis at the hands of Peter Wilborn (who wrote the 
law).  I shared the post and the subsequent discussion with a friend who 
runs the local cycling group, she shared it with the Sheriff who 
immediately dispatched 2 deputies to this woman's residence and sat down 
with her for quite some time and explained what she had gotten herself into.

Subsequent to that some of her peeps determined that this tour company 
did not have a County business license and were doing business in the 
County (which was something of a stretch, as there are any number of 
outfits that do business in the County without a license, trucking 
companies and whatnot, and any others you could think of that do not 
have a physical presence. These people hounded the tour companies and 
County staff about it for weeks, whether they were justified or not.  In 
any case this tour company and another one said F it and quit doing 
tours, to the detriment of other businesses that benefited from the 
people -- hotels, restaurants, whatever else.

These are the mentalities that laws are needed to address, unfortunately 
usually after the fact of a incident.  I have been involved in one or 
two others where aggressive drivers who were inconvenienced by a few 
seconds gave me a brushback, one of them I chased down into a parking 
lot where he was working at a restaurant, got pics of him and his truck 
and went to the Sheriffs Office local station and was going to file an 
incident report and get some action going.  The cops were pleasant 
enough until they recognized the individual, a young hothead who had 
been a deputy up until a year previously, when he was fired after he 
beat up a motorist he had stopped (and turns out the guy was a criminal, 
but that was not relevant to his actions) and the SO had to pay the vic 
$300k.  The cops said they would take care of it, I asked what that 
meant, they said not to worry it would be taken care of. That was 
weird.  I looked the guy up later and found it was this hothead and 
remembered the story then.  I don't know whatever happened, maybe 
someone did have a chat with him.  He actually tried to run me over in a 
roundabout just before the shopping area where he worked, I think he was 
late for his shift and felt terribly inconvenienced that he actually had 
to give way to me on my bike at 11AM on a Sunday when there was very 
little traffic of any kind.

But whatever, there is just a lot of foolishness that laws have to be 
made to address

--FT

On 6/9/21 3:53 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes wrote:
> True, I guess, but one would think they are just standard rules of the 
> road.
>
>
>
> On 09/06/2021 2:50 PM, Floyd 

Re: [MBZ] Yesterday was...

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

yeah but for some reason they need to be codified to keep the idiots 
somewhat in line.


A coupla years ago there was a group doing these tour rides around here, 
maybe a dozen people would sign up for a week or two and they would have 
vans to take the riders to different areas around to ride maybe 30 or 40 
miles a day, just see the sights, have a picnic somewhere nice.  I saw a 
group of them at one point and chatted with them, had seen the vans 
carrying the people and the bikes a few times.  Some woman on the next 
island over took exception to being inconvenienced (meaning she had to 
wait maybe 20sec to pass the group, if that, on roads that are seldom 
busy, which is why they were riding out there) as she was towing a horse 
trailer.  She got on FB and started ranting about how she was going to 
"take out" the whole group next time they got in her way, her big truck 
and 7000lb horse trailer would make short work of them.  She was proud 
of that.  I pointed out that this would be premeditated murder if she 
did so, or even if she was ever involved in an incident with a cyclist 
it would show premeditation to do harm, and that would be really Not 
Good for her prognosis at the hands of Peter Wilborn (who wrote the 
law).  I shared the post and the subsequent discussion with a friend who 
runs the local cycling group, she shared it with the Sheriff who 
immediately dispatched 2 deputies to this woman's residence and sat down 
with her for quite some time and explained what she had gotten herself into.


Subsequent to that some of her peeps determined that this tour company 
did not have a County business license and were doing business in the 
County (which was something of a stretch, as there are any number of 
outfits that do business in the County without a license, trucking 
companies and whatnot, and any others you could think of that do not 
have a physical presence. These people hounded the tour companies and 
County staff about it for weeks, whether they were justified or not.  In 
any case this tour company and another one said F it and quit doing 
tours, to the detriment of other businesses that benefited from the 
people -- hotels, restaurants, whatever else.


These are the mentalities that laws are needed to address, unfortunately 
usually after the fact of a incident.  I have been involved in one or 
two others where aggressive drivers who were inconvenienced by a few 
seconds gave me a brushback, one of them I chased down into a parking 
lot where he was working at a restaurant, got pics of him and his truck 
and went to the Sheriffs Office local station and was going to file an 
incident report and get some action going.  The cops were pleasant 
enough until they recognized the individual, a young hothead who had 
been a deputy up until a year previously, when he was fired after he 
beat up a motorist he had stopped (and turns out the guy was a criminal, 
but that was not relevant to his actions) and the SO had to pay the vic 
$300k.  The cops said they would take care of it, I asked what that 
meant, they said not to worry it would be taken care of. That was 
weird.  I looked the guy up later and found it was this hothead and 
remembered the story then.  I don't know whatever happened, maybe 
someone did have a chat with him.  He actually tried to run me over in a 
roundabout just before the shopping area where he worked, I think he was 
late for his shift and felt terribly inconvenienced that he actually had 
to give way to me on my bike at 11AM on a Sunday when there was very 
little traffic of any kind.


But whatever, there is just a lot of foolishness that laws have to be 
made to address


--FT

On 6/9/21 3:53 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes wrote:
True, I guess, but one would think they are just standard rules of the 
road.




On 09/06/2021 2:50 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote:

It encapsulates the transgressions that get cyclists injured and killed

--FT

On 6/9/21 3:41 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes wrote:

Looks to be pretty ordinary. I was expecting something more.


On 09/06/2021 2:29 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote:

https://www.bikelaw.com/laws/south-carolina/

On 6/9/21 11:40 AM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes wrote:

What is the gist of the "new SC bike law"?



On 09/06/2021 9:37 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote:
the 13th anniversary of getting hit while riding my bike by a 
dumbass (whose name was "Lance Leopard") driving a Sprinter van 
(Mercedes content!).  I ended up getting the first conviction 
under the new (at that time) SC bike law, the lawyer who helped 
write the law was my abogado, he was quite enthused at the 
proceedings.  I had to get the deputy who responded to rewrite 
the charges as she did not know about the bike law.  Case was 
heard at out local magistrate's court after some few months, 
dumbass plead guilty to one count and we decided not to pursue 
the other in a jury trial.


I ended up getting some money from his insco, covered 

Re: [MBZ] My Friends Last Ride

[Randy Bennell via Mercedes]

If you have really deep pockets, you can design your own hearse and have 
it built like Prince Philip.  https://tinyurl.com/ttf3sy6j


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Re: [MBZ] Yesterday was...

[Randy Bennell via Mercedes]

True, I guess, but one would think they are just standard rules of the road.



On 09/06/2021 2:50 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote:

It encapsulates the transgressions that get cyclists injured and killed

--FT

On 6/9/21 3:41 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes wrote:

Looks to be pretty ordinary. I was expecting something more.


On 09/06/2021 2:29 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote:

https://www.bikelaw.com/laws/south-carolina/

On 6/9/21 11:40 AM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes wrote:

What is the gist of the "new SC bike law"?



On 09/06/2021 9:37 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote:
the 13th anniversary of getting hit while riding my bike by a 
dumbass (whose name was "Lance Leopard") driving a Sprinter van 
(Mercedes content!).  I ended up getting the first conviction 
under the new (at that time) SC bike law, the lawyer who helped 
write the law was my abogado, he was quite enthused at the 
proceedings.  I had to get the deputy who responded to rewrite the 
charges as she did not know about the bike law.  Case was heard at 
out local magistrate's court after some few months, dumbass plead 
guilty to one count and we decided not to pursue the other in a 
jury trial.


I ended up getting some money from his insco, covered some medical 
stuff and some left over that disappeared into the former wife's 
accounts somewhere I never figured out.  On another aspect, I 
called her to come collect me after the incident, she showed up 
and after consulting with the EMTs on medical aspects, was 
speaking to the deputy who was standing there, and the dumbass 
driver's dumbass girlfriend mouthed off to Dr. wife about 
something, that was escalating rapidly, I pointed this out to the 
deputy and suggested she might want to intercede in that exchange...


Interestingly enough I was at a community meeting last evening and 
the judge/magistrate was there, he has been retired for a coupla 
years now.  Didn't get a chance to speak with him, but we have 
spoken a few times since then, seeing each other at various 
meetings and he is a good friend of another friend, and he 
remembers me and the case and was pleased I think to mete out 
justice under that law for the first time.  Plus the dumbass and 
his low-rent shyster were annoying.





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Re: [MBZ] Yesterday was...

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

It encapsulates the transgressions that get cyclists injured and killed

--FT

On 6/9/21 3:41 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes wrote:

Looks to be pretty ordinary. I was expecting something more.


On 09/06/2021 2:29 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote:

https://www.bikelaw.com/laws/south-carolina/

On 6/9/21 11:40 AM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes wrote:

What is the gist of the "new SC bike law"?



On 09/06/2021 9:37 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote:
the 13th anniversary of getting hit while riding my bike by a 
dumbass (whose name was "Lance Leopard") driving a Sprinter van 
(Mercedes content!).  I ended up getting the first conviction under 
the new (at that time) SC bike law, the lawyer who helped write the 
law was my abogado, he was quite enthused at the proceedings.  I 
had to get the deputy who responded to rewrite the charges as she 
did not know about the bike law.  Case was heard at out local 
magistrate's court after some few months, dumbass plead guilty to 
one count and we decided not to pursue the other in a jury trial.


I ended up getting some money from his insco, covered some medical 
stuff and some left over that disappeared into the former wife's 
accounts somewhere I never figured out.  On another aspect, I 
called her to come collect me after the incident, she showed up and 
after consulting with the EMTs on medical aspects, was speaking to 
the deputy who was standing there, and the dumbass driver's dumbass 
girlfriend mouthed off to Dr. wife about something, that was 
escalating rapidly, I pointed this out to the deputy and suggested 
she might want to intercede in that exchange...


Interestingly enough I was at a community meeting last evening and 
the judge/magistrate was there, he has been retired for a coupla 
years now.  Didn't get a chance to speak with him, but we have 
spoken a few times since then, seeing each other at various 
meetings and he is a good friend of another friend, and he 
remembers me and the case and was pleased I think to mete out 
justice under that law for the first time.  Plus the dumbass and 
his low-rent shyster were annoying.





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Re: [MBZ] Yesterday was...

[Randy Bennell via Mercedes]

Looks to be pretty ordinary. I was expecting something more.


On 09/06/2021 2:29 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote:

https://www.bikelaw.com/laws/south-carolina/

On 6/9/21 11:40 AM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes wrote:

What is the gist of the "new SC bike law"?



On 09/06/2021 9:37 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote:
the 13th anniversary of getting hit while riding my bike by a 
dumbass (whose name was "Lance Leopard") driving a Sprinter van 
(Mercedes content!).  I ended up getting the first conviction under 
the new (at that time) SC bike law, the lawyer who helped write the 
law was my abogado, he was quite enthused at the proceedings.  I had 
to get the deputy who responded to rewrite the charges as she did 
not know about the bike law.  Case was heard at out local 
magistrate's court after some few months, dumbass plead guilty to 
one count and we decided not to pursue the other in a jury trial.


I ended up getting some money from his insco, covered some medical 
stuff and some left over that disappeared into the former wife's 
accounts somewhere I never figured out.  On another aspect, I called 
her to come collect me after the incident, she showed up and after 
consulting with the EMTs on medical aspects, was speaking to the 
deputy who was standing there, and the dumbass driver's dumbass 
girlfriend mouthed off to Dr. wife about something, that was 
escalating rapidly, I pointed this out to the deputy and suggested 
she might want to intercede in that exchange...


Interestingly enough I was at a community meeting last evening and 
the judge/magistrate was there, he has been retired for a coupla 
years now.  Didn't get a chance to speak with him, but we have 
spoken a few times since then, seeing each other at various meetings 
and he is a good friend of another friend, and he remembers me and 
the case and was pleased I think to mete out justice under that law 
for the first time.  Plus the dumbass and his low-rent shyster were 
annoying.





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Re: [MBZ] Cheap Chinese lifts

[Allan Streib via Mercedes]

So what expense (ballpark) would I be looking at to put in a two-post
lift?

I am guessing it's not justified by the amount of work that I do, on the
other hand maybe I'd keep up on stuff better if it was less of a PITA to
actually do the work.

I do have a three-bay garage but ceiling is 10' and mostly I see 12' as
the minimum. In theory I could box out another 2' of height over the
center bay, but that would be more .

Allan

Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes  writes:

> Allan,
> Trial and error and some common sense!
>
> I have a Mohawk asymmetrical lift and a balanced load isn't always obvious
> due to the angle of the columns.  But you can determine if you're heavy in
> one direction or the other based on the load felt on some of the rollers.
>
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Re: [MBZ] My Friends Last Ride

[G Mann via Mercedes]

 A Jeffery Epstein Retirement Recreational Vehicle.
Viagra not included, since full rigor has already set in.


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Re: [MBZ] Yesterday was...

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

https://www.bikelaw.com/laws/south-carolina/

On 6/9/21 11:40 AM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes wrote:

What is the gist of the "new SC bike law"?



On 09/06/2021 9:37 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote:
the 13th anniversary of getting hit while riding my bike by a dumbass 
(whose name was "Lance Leopard") driving a Sprinter van (Mercedes 
content!).  I ended up getting the first conviction under the new (at 
that time) SC bike law, the lawyer who helped write the law was my 
abogado, he was quite enthused at the proceedings.  I had to get the 
deputy who responded to rewrite the charges as she did not know about 
the bike law.  Case was heard at out local magistrate's court after 
some few months, dumbass plead guilty to one count and we decided not 
to pursue the other in a jury trial.


I ended up getting some money from his insco, covered some medical 
stuff and some left over that disappeared into the former wife's 
accounts somewhere I never figured out.  On another aspect, I called 
her to come collect me after the incident, she showed up and after 
consulting with the EMTs on medical aspects, was speaking to the 
deputy who was standing there, and the dumbass driver's dumbass 
girlfriend mouthed off to Dr. wife about something, that was 
escalating rapidly, I pointed this out to the deputy and suggested 
she might want to intercede in that exchange...


Interestingly enough I was at a community meeting last evening and 
the judge/magistrate was there, he has been retired for a coupla 
years now.  Didn't get a chance to speak with him, but we have spoken 
a few times since then, seeing each other at various meetings and he 
is a good friend of another friend, and he remembers me and the case 
and was pleased I think to mete out justice under that law for the 
first time.  Plus the dumbass and his low-rent shyster were annoying.





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Re: [MBZ] One For Dan

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

Is the color black or dark blue?

Max Dillon
Charleston SC


Jun 9, 2021 3:29:03 PM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes :

> A little high for the miles but looks fairly decent, could probably negotiate 
> to something a little more reasonable.
> 
> --FT
> 
> On 6/9/21 3:10 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes wrote:
>> Miles are a bit high. I wonder if has the factory tow package.
>> 
>> https://tampa.craigslist.org/pnl/cto/d/pinellas-park-2002-mercedes-benz-ml320/7334199499.html
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] My Friends Last Ride

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

Nice, that's a worthy last ride.

Max Dillon
Charleston SC


Jun 9, 2021 3:26:56 PM Bob Rentfro via Mercedes :

> Wow. When did hearses become so fancy?
> 
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Re: [MBZ] One For Dan

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

A little high for the miles but looks fairly decent, could probably 
negotiate to something a little more reasonable.


--FT

On 6/9/21 3:10 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes wrote:

Miles are a bit high. I wonder if has the factory tow package.

https://tampa.craigslist.org/pnl/cto/d/pinellas-park-2002-mercedes-benz-ml320/7334199499.html


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Re: [MBZ] Seems cheap for a diesel 2008 Mercedes-Benz E-Class E 320 BLUETEC Sedan 4D, $5, 600

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

Kaleb picks those up for a grand.

Max Dillon
Charleston SC


Jun 9, 2021 3:17:34 PM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes :

> Looks fairly decent, 132kmi
> 
> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/523866422307140
> 
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[MBZ] 2017 Mercedes-Benz B-Class B 250e Hatchback 4D hatchback Blue - - $20, 990

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

Here's an electromobile.  Looks cheap and cobbled together

https://greensboro.craigslist.org/ctd/d/greensboro-2017-mercedes-benz-class/7334144565.html

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[MBZ] Not exactly sure what the problem is 2007 Mercedes-Benz S-Class S 550 Sedan 4D, $6, 000

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

It might be the stupid wheels/tires

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/847033139253286

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[MBZ] Seems cheap for a diesel 2008 Mercedes-Benz E-Class E 320 BLUETEC Sedan 4D, $5, 600

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

Looks fairly decent, 132kmi

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/523866422307140

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[MBZ] trade for a trucc or some floater rims 26” 2002 Mercedes-Benz S-Class,$1,500

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/326047475599458

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[MBZ] One For Dan

[Rick Knoble via Mercedes]

Miles are a bit high. I wonder if has the factory tow package.

https://tampa.craigslist.org/pnl/cto/d/pinellas-park-2002-mercedes-benz-ml320/7334199499.html


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Re: [MBZ] Listen to the All-Electric Mercedes-Benz EQS Make Its Tires Squeal on the Nürburgring

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MBNA will offer a 2% discount off the MSRP to diesel listers.

On Wed, Jun 9, 2021 at 12:41 PM OK Don via Mercedes 
wrote:

> If there's a market, they'll build it ...
>
>
> https://www.msn.com/en-us/autos/news/listen-to-the-all-electric-mercedes-benz-eqs-make-its-tires-squeal-on-the-n%c3%bcrburgring/ar-AAKROCP?li=BBnb4R5
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[MBZ] Listen to the All-Electric Mercedes-Benz EQS Make Its Tires Squeal on the Nürburgring

[OK Don via Mercedes]

If there's a market, they'll build it ...

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Re: [MBZ] Yesterday was...

[Randy Bennell via Mercedes]

What is the gist of the "new SC bike law"?



On 09/06/2021 9:37 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote:
the 13th anniversary of getting hit while riding my bike by a dumbass 
(whose name was "Lance Leopard") driving a Sprinter van (Mercedes 
content!).  I ended up getting the first conviction under the new (at 
that time) SC bike law, the lawyer who helped write the law was my 
abogado, he was quite enthused at the proceedings.  I had to get the 
deputy who responded to rewrite the charges as she did not know about 
the bike law.  Case was heard at out local magistrate's court after 
some few months, dumbass plead guilty to one count and we decided not 
to pursue the other in a jury trial.


I ended up getting some money from his insco, covered some medical 
stuff and some left over that disappeared into the former wife's 
accounts somewhere I never figured out.  On another aspect, I called 
her to come collect me after the incident, she showed up and after 
consulting with the EMTs on medical aspects, was speaking to the 
deputy who was standing there, and the dumbass driver's dumbass 
girlfriend mouthed off to Dr. wife about something, that was 
escalating rapidly, I pointed this out to the deputy and suggested she 
might want to intercede in that exchange...


Interestingly enough I was at a community meeting last evening and the 
judge/magistrate was there, he has been retired for a coupla years 
now.  Didn't get a chance to speak with him, but we have spoken a few 
times since then, seeing each other at various meetings and he is a 
good friend of another friend, and he remembers me and the case and 
was pleased I think to mete out justice under that law for the first 
time.  Plus the dumbass and his low-rent shyster were annoying.





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Re: [MBZ] Yesterday was...

[G Mann via Mercedes]

So, besides being mentally impaired [as evidenced by choice of girlfriend]
the driver was under the influence of drugs?
On reflection, it is likely his insurance would have joined in the fight in
court after they canceled his coverage, and insurance companies are quite
happy to flood the courts with their attorneys, which you would have had to
defend against [more cost to you].
Sounds like in the final tally, you won by not pressing further.


On Wed, Jun 9, 2021 at 8:09 AM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> When the DAG showed up she says to the DAD "you just had surgery and
> shouldn't be driving after taking those painkillers." U
> okeedokee then...
>
> I told my lawyer and he just rolled his eyes and said if we go to trial
> we will subpoena his medical records and drill down on that issue.  We
> decided against pursuing the more serious charge as the DAD shyster said
> "No South Carolina jury will convict a driver of hitting a bicycle
> rider" and unfortunately my lawyer agreed with that, even though it was
> clear DAD was totally in the wrong.  There wasn't a lot to gain, other
> than some satisfaction, from chasing that charge, so we let it go.
>
> --FT
>
> On 6/9/21 11:01 AM, G Mann via Mercedes wrote:
> > Happy "I lived through that" Birthday !
> > Congratulations on winning. As you describe the dumbass girlfriend, it's
> > too bad the officer did not add a charge of "distracted driving" while
> > "impaired".. [mentally impaired surely must count against the ability to
> > drive safely.]
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Jun 9, 2021 at 7:38 AM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> >> the 13th anniversary of getting hit while riding my bike by a dumbass
> >> (whose name was "Lance Leopard") driving a Sprinter van (Mercedes
> >> content!).  I ended up getting the first conviction under the new (at
> >> that time) SC bike law, the lawyer who helped write the law was my
> >> abogado, he was quite enthused at the proceedings.  I had to get the
> >> deputy who responded to rewrite the charges as she did not know about
> >> the bike law.  Case was heard at out local magistrate's court after some
> >> few months, dumbass plead guilty to one count and we decided not to
> >> pursue the other in a jury trial.
> >>
> >> I ended up getting some money from his insco, covered some medical stuff
> >> and some left over that disappeared into the former wife's accounts
> >> somewhere I never figured out.  On another aspect, I called her to come
> >> collect me after the incident, she showed up and after consulting with
> >> the EMTs on medical aspects, was speaking to the deputy who was standing
> >> there, and the dumbass driver's dumbass girlfriend mouthed off to Dr.
> >> wife about something, that was escalating rapidly, I pointed this out to
> >> the deputy and suggested she might want to intercede in that exchange...
> >>
> >> Interestingly enough I was at a community meeting last evening and the
> >> judge/magistrate was there, he has been retired for a coupla years now.
> >> Didn't get a chance to speak with him, but we have spoken a few times
> >> since then, seeing each other at various meetings and he is a good
> >> friend of another friend, and he remembers me and the case and was
> >> pleased I think to mete out justice under that law for the first time.
> >> Plus the dumbass and his low-rent shyster were annoying.
> >>
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[MBZ] Moss green/green 280SL on BAT

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

My restored 280SE 3.5 coupe (VIN 1110261247) had the same color
combination (build sheet was anthracite gray/green).

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1969-mercedes-benz-280sl-59/?utm_source=dm_medium=email_campaign=2021-06-09
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Re: [MBZ] Mechanic diagnosed engine and stated it needed an engine. 1985 Mercedes-Benz 380 se, FREE (Make offer)

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

I sent this girl a note asking how much she wanted for this car and I 
see she has updated the ad to $2k.  Dreamer.  The car does look nice 
though, I guess if you had another 380 engine to drop in that wouldn't 
be a bad deal


https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/123409309819356

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Re: [MBZ] Yesterday was...

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

When the DAG showed up she says to the DAD "you just had surgery and 
shouldn't be driving after taking those painkillers." U  
okeedokee then...


I told my lawyer and he just rolled his eyes and said if we go to trial 
we will subpoena his medical records and drill down on that issue.  We 
decided against pursuing the more serious charge as the DAD shyster said 
"No South Carolina jury will convict a driver of hitting a bicycle 
rider" and unfortunately my lawyer agreed with that, even though it was 
clear DAD was totally in the wrong.  There wasn't a lot to gain, other 
than some satisfaction, from chasing that charge, so we let it go.


--FT

On 6/9/21 11:01 AM, G Mann via Mercedes wrote:

Happy "I lived through that" Birthday !
Congratulations on winning. As you describe the dumbass girlfriend, it's
too bad the officer did not add a charge of "distracted driving" while
"impaired".. [mentally impaired surely must count against the ability to
drive safely.]


On Wed, Jun 9, 2021 at 7:38 AM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
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the 13th anniversary of getting hit while riding my bike by a dumbass
(whose name was "Lance Leopard") driving a Sprinter van (Mercedes
content!).  I ended up getting the first conviction under the new (at
that time) SC bike law, the lawyer who helped write the law was my
abogado, he was quite enthused at the proceedings.  I had to get the
deputy who responded to rewrite the charges as she did not know about
the bike law.  Case was heard at out local magistrate's court after some
few months, dumbass plead guilty to one count and we decided not to
pursue the other in a jury trial.

I ended up getting some money from his insco, covered some medical stuff
and some left over that disappeared into the former wife's accounts
somewhere I never figured out.  On another aspect, I called her to come
collect me after the incident, she showed up and after consulting with
the EMTs on medical aspects, was speaking to the deputy who was standing
there, and the dumbass driver's dumbass girlfriend mouthed off to Dr.
wife about something, that was escalating rapidly, I pointed this out to
the deputy and suggested she might want to intercede in that exchange...

Interestingly enough I was at a community meeting last evening and the
judge/magistrate was there, he has been retired for a coupla years now.
Didn't get a chance to speak with him, but we have spoken a few times
since then, seeing each other at various meetings and he is a good
friend of another friend, and he remembers me and the case and was
pleased I think to mete out justice under that law for the first time.
Plus the dumbass and his low-rent shyster were annoying.

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Re: [MBZ] Yesterday was...

[G Mann via Mercedes]

Happy "I lived through that" Birthday !
Congratulations on winning. As you describe the dumbass girlfriend, it's
too bad the officer did not add a charge of "distracted driving" while
"impaired".. [mentally impaired surely must count against the ability to
drive safely.]


On Wed, Jun 9, 2021 at 7:38 AM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> the 13th anniversary of getting hit while riding my bike by a dumbass
> (whose name was "Lance Leopard") driving a Sprinter van (Mercedes
> content!).  I ended up getting the first conviction under the new (at
> that time) SC bike law, the lawyer who helped write the law was my
> abogado, he was quite enthused at the proceedings.  I had to get the
> deputy who responded to rewrite the charges as she did not know about
> the bike law.  Case was heard at out local magistrate's court after some
> few months, dumbass plead guilty to one count and we decided not to
> pursue the other in a jury trial.
>
> I ended up getting some money from his insco, covered some medical stuff
> and some left over that disappeared into the former wife's accounts
> somewhere I never figured out.  On another aspect, I called her to come
> collect me after the incident, she showed up and after consulting with
> the EMTs on medical aspects, was speaking to the deputy who was standing
> there, and the dumbass driver's dumbass girlfriend mouthed off to Dr.
> wife about something, that was escalating rapidly, I pointed this out to
> the deputy and suggested she might want to intercede in that exchange...
>
> Interestingly enough I was at a community meeting last evening and the
> judge/magistrate was there, he has been retired for a coupla years now.
> Didn't get a chance to speak with him, but we have spoken a few times
> since then, seeing each other at various meetings and he is a good
> friend of another friend, and he remembers me and the case and was
> pleased I think to mete out justice under that law for the first time.
> Plus the dumbass and his low-rent shyster were annoying.
>
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[MBZ] Yesterday was...

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

the 13th anniversary of getting hit while riding my bike by a dumbass 
(whose name was "Lance Leopard") driving a Sprinter van (Mercedes 
content!).  I ended up getting the first conviction under the new (at 
that time) SC bike law, the lawyer who helped write the law was my 
abogado, he was quite enthused at the proceedings.  I had to get the 
deputy who responded to rewrite the charges as she did not know about 
the bike law.  Case was heard at out local magistrate's court after some 
few months, dumbass plead guilty to one count and we decided not to 
pursue the other in a jury trial.


I ended up getting some money from his insco, covered some medical stuff 
and some left over that disappeared into the former wife's accounts 
somewhere I never figured out.  On another aspect, I called her to come 
collect me after the incident, she showed up and after consulting with 
the EMTs on medical aspects, was speaking to the deputy who was standing 
there, and the dumbass driver's dumbass girlfriend mouthed off to Dr. 
wife about something, that was escalating rapidly, I pointed this out to 
the deputy and suggested she might want to intercede in that exchange...


Interestingly enough I was at a community meeting last evening and the 
judge/magistrate was there, he has been retired for a coupla years now.  
Didn't get a chance to speak with him, but we have spoken a few times 
since then, seeing each other at various meetings and he is a good 
friend of another friend, and he remembers me and the case and was 
pleased I think to mete out justice under that law for the first time.  
Plus the dumbass and his low-rent shyster were annoying.


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Re: [MBZ] Old Diesel Engine Start up Best Sounding Engine - YouTube

[G Mann via Mercedes]

Amazing, the old English Diesel still has all the OSHA approved safety
guards in place.. ;))

On Tue, Jun 8, 2021 at 6:56 PM M. Mitchell Marmel via Mercedes <
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> One for K'leb's collection:
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mVyVNmqfeRk
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Re: [MBZ] Old Diesel Engine Start up Best Sounding Engine - YouTube

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

Did you notice the guy in the dark blue only had one arm?

this one is better  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-BE476MvO_g

On 6/8/21 9:55 PM, M. Mitchell Marmel via Mercedes wrote:

One for K'leb's collection:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mVyVNmqfeRk
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Re: [MBZ] Cheap Chinese lifts

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

And you always lift the car off the floor a few inches and go around and 
give it a good push and rock to make sure it is not going to fall off 
and turn you into Wile E Coyote


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On 6/9/21 7:29 AM, Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes wrote:

Allan,
Trial and error and some common sense!

I have a Mohawk asymmetrical lift and a balanced load isn't always obvious
due to the angle of the columns.  But you can determine if you're heavy in
one direction or the other based on the load felt on some of the rollers.

Jaime



On Tue, Jun 8, 2021 at 11:54 PM Allan Streib via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:


When you use a two post lift how do you know where to place the lift
arms so the car is balanced?

Allan

Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes  writes:


Somewhat hard for everyday knickknacks but easy for bigger expensive
items such as a car lift. I ordered a Mohawk 2 post lift for my garage
a few weeks ago. 100% made in the USA. Hugely expensive but I don’t
care.

Sent from my iPhone


On Jun 8, 2021, at 9:54 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <

mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

Hard to do.


On Tue, Jun 8, 2021, 9:48 PM Dwight Giles via Mercedes <

mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

Yes. Stay away from Chinese stuff.

Dwight Giles Jr.
Wickford RI

On Tue, Jun 8, 2021, 7:15 PM Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes <

mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

Why support China? Why risk your life under a Chinese lift?  Get a
Rotary or a Mohawk.

Sent from my iPhone


On Jun 8, 2021, at 7:11 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <

mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

I have been looking at cheap Chinese lifts with good reviews over
the last month or so. I have been busy and not ordered one. I see
now the prices are up almost $500 from when I looked a couple of
weeks ago. Wtf?

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Re: [MBZ] Cheap Chinese lifts

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

Why the price increases?  Hmmm, have to take that discussion to Okietalk...

Max Dillon
Charleston SC


Jun 8, 2021 8:15:27 PM G Mann via Mercedes :

> Check the price of steel over the past 60 days. Steel has risen in price
> over 150%. That, along with the price of fuel, which impacts ship fuel, and
> road fuel, also, has impacted the end price of Chinese goods.
> 
> On Tue, Jun 8, 2021 at 4:15 PM Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> Why support China? Why risk your life under a Chinese lift?
>> Get a Rotary or a Mohawk.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Jun 8, 2021, at 7:11 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I have been looking at cheap Chinese lifts with good reviews over the
>> last month or so. I have been busy and not ordered one. I see now the
>> prices are up almost $500 from when I looked a couple of weeks ago. Wtf?
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: [MBZ] Cheap Chinese lifts

[Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes]

Allan,
Trial and error and some common sense!

I have a Mohawk asymmetrical lift and a balanced load isn't always obvious
due to the angle of the columns.  But you can determine if you're heavy in
one direction or the other based on the load felt on some of the rollers.

Jaime



On Tue, Jun 8, 2021 at 11:54 PM Allan Streib via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> When you use a two post lift how do you know where to place the lift
> arms so the car is balanced?
>
> Allan
>
> Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes  writes:
>
> > Somewhat hard for everyday knickknacks but easy for bigger expensive
> > items such as a car lift. I ordered a Mohawk 2 post lift for my garage
> > a few weeks ago. 100% made in the USA. Hugely expensive but I don’t
> > care.
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> >> On Jun 8, 2021, at 9:54 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> Hard to do.
> >>
> >>> On Tue, Jun 8, 2021, 9:48 PM Dwight Giles via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Yes. Stay away from Chinese stuff.
> >>>
> >>> Dwight Giles Jr.
> >>> Wickford RI
> >>>
> >>> On Tue, Jun 8, 2021, 7:15 PM Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>>
>  Why support China? Why risk your life under a Chinese lift?  Get a
>  Rotary or a Mohawk.
> 
>  Sent from my iPhone
> 
> > On Jun 8, 2021, at 7:11 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > I have been looking at cheap Chinese lifts with good reviews over
> > the last month or so. I have been busy and not ordered one. I see
> > now the prices are up almost $500 from when I looked a couple of
> > weeks ago. Wtf?
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
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