[MBZ] Can somebody explain runs but won’t start

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

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[MBZ] 2007 v 2008 and later ML towing

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

If what I am seeing is correct the towing capacity if the 2007 ML is only 5k 
lbs where the 08 and up is 7k. Why would it be different?


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Re: [MBZ] Very interesting but the rust might be terminal

[Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes]

Given the rust, $500 max

--FT
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> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/352285116432003/
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[MBZ] Very interesting but the rust might be terminal

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Re: [MBZ] Fuel prices

[Rick Knoble via Mercedes]

Hmm. There are military tensions building someplace in the world and that might 
have a wee bit of something to do with it. Hopefully cooler heads prevail and 
no issues arise.


Rick

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Subject: [MBZ] Fuel prices

Is it just me or does it seem like fuel prices are increasing massively
on a daily bases in the last week or so?


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Re: [MBZ] OT - Gray Market Cars

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That's a long article and for having the "25 year import rule" in the title 
it's strange that it never explains what the rule is. It just wraps up with 
"Decades later, the 25-year rule remains in place, and there’s no sign it’s 
ever going anywhere."


On Fri, Jan 21, 2022, at 8:13 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:
> Good article on Jalopnik about gray market cars with a lot of Mercedes 
> content in it:
>
> https://jalopnik.com/the-25-year-import-rules-history-is-more-complicated-th-1848322467
>
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[MBZ] OT - Gray Market Cars

[dan penoff.com via Mercedes]

Good article on Jalopnik about gray market cars with a lot of Mercedes content 
in it:

https://jalopnik.com/the-25-year-import-rules-history-is-more-complicated-th-1848322467

-D
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[MBZ] Fuel prices

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

Is it just me or does it seem like fuel prices are increasing massively 
on a daily bases in the last week or so?



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Re: [MBZ] Another copart ML

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

Seems like its better to find one that already has the hitch and 
integrated wiring.  I know on the 08 the wiring harness is right up 
under the drivers dash to hook up a brake controller.  I have heard on 
the earlier ones the harness is all the way in the back and you have to 
run it up to the front to hook up a brake controller.


On 1/21/2022 6:38 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes wrote:

No they don’t all have tow setup. I put a hitch on the former wife’s 2011 yo be 
able to put on a bike rack but didn’t do the nanny

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On Jan 21, 2022, at 6:23 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
 wrote:

Of course I just noticed it does not have the trailer hitch. Thought these all 
came with it.  Without it, kind of defeats my purpose of wanting to use it to 
tow on occasion.


On 1/21/2022 5:14 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
This one has also ran a few times and still not sold.  Rebuilt title but at 
least its listed as run and drive.

https://www.copart.com/lot/31357612/clean-title-2007-mercedes-benz-ml-320-cdi-ne-lincoln

If you look it up on the russian site, you can see the IAA auction from 
previously with the damage which caused it to have a rebuilt title, since 
fixed.  Damage was not bad at all.

https://autohelperbot.com/en/car/4JGBB22E37A209157_21535780


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Re: [MBZ] Another copart ML

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No they don’t all have tow setup. I put a hitch on the former wife’s 2011 yo be 
able to put on a bike rack but didn’t do the nanny

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> On Jan 21, 2022, at 6:23 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Of course I just noticed it does not have the trailer hitch. Thought these 
> all came with it.  Without it, kind of defeats my purpose of wanting to use 
> it to tow on occasion.
> 
>> On 1/21/2022 5:14 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
>> This one has also ran a few times and still not sold.  Rebuilt title but at 
>> least its listed as run and drive.
>> 
>> https://www.copart.com/lot/31357612/clean-title-2007-mercedes-benz-ml-320-cdi-ne-lincoln
>>  
>> 
>> If you look it up on the russian site, you can see the IAA auction from 
>> previously with the damage which caused it to have a rebuilt title, since 
>> fixed.  Damage was not bad at all.
>> 
>> https://autohelperbot.com/en/car/4JGBB22E37A209157_21535780
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] GL 642 starter

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That means he’ll only have to go out to the back 40 and dig under the pile to 
see it.

-D

> On Jan 21, 2022, at 7:17 PM, OK Don via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> That's why you write it on the car near where you measure it.
> 
> On Fri, Jan 21, 2022 at 6:14 PM dan penoff.com via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> But what happens in a year or two when he goes looking for them?
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>> 
>>> On Jan 21, 2022, at 7:06 PM, OK Don via Mercedes 
>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Check them all, write the Amps down near the battery or measuring point,
>> so
>>> if you think they might be getting slow in the future, you have a
>> reference
>>> number. Hmmm - I did that for the airplane, I'll go and do it for the car
>>> and truck tomorrow - take my own advice!
>>> 
>>> On Fri, Jan 21, 2022 at 5:50 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> 
 The only other 642 I have is the R320 and to me it always seemed to turn
 over slow also, so not sure if it’s a good benchmark. I might check the
 e300 606 just to compare. Or maybe one of my 648 cars.
 
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> On Jan 21, 2022, at 5:39 PM, OK Don via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com>
 wrote:
> 
> Have you measured the amps on another car with a similar sized/type
 (fuel)
> engine to see if 300A is in the ballpark?
> 
>> On Fri, Jan 21, 2022 at 4:25 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>> So you all recall I did some testing due to car turning over slow.  I
>> had figured it was time for a replacement starter but the 2 year old
>> battery tested bad, so I replaced it with a new AGM battery.  It
>> seemed
>> to turn over faster the other day but still not as fast as I figure it
>> should.  Starter still drawing about 300 amps.  Yesterday the wife
>> left
>> and it was probably around 20 outside.  She said it cycled thru 2
>> keyless go starts but timed out.  Took the button out and used key and
>> started it.  Earlier today with it around 30 outside, she left, and it
>> turned over very slowly with first cycle before timing out.  2nd cycle
>> it finally started.  I am thinking I am probably going to have to go
>> ahead with the starter replacement anyway.  As mentioned before, I
>> can't
>> really even see it from above, or below while its on the lift. Looking
>> at the procedure in WIS it basically appears as if you have to get it
>> up
>> on the lift, support engine with engine support fixture (which I don't
>> have), remove engine mount and engine mount arm?  This is going to be
>> a
>> whore of a job.  Jono?
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>>> pause and reflect." Mark Twain
>>> 
>>> “Basic research is what I’m doing when I don’t know what I am doing.”
>> Wernher
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> 
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Re: [MBZ] GL 642 starter

[OK Don via Mercedes]

That's why you write it on the car near where you measure it.

On Fri, Jan 21, 2022 at 6:14 PM dan penoff.com via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> But what happens in a year or two when he goes looking for them?
>
> -D
>
>
> > On Jan 21, 2022, at 7:06 PM, OK Don via Mercedes 
> wrote:
> >
> > Check them all, write the Amps down near the battery or measuring point,
> so
> > if you think they might be getting slow in the future, you have a
> reference
> > number. Hmmm - I did that for the airplane, I'll go and do it for the car
> > and truck tomorrow - take my own advice!
> >
> > On Fri, Jan 21, 2022 at 5:50 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> >> The only other 642 I have is the R320 and to me it always seemed to turn
> >> over slow also, so not sure if it’s a good benchmark. I might check the
> >> e300 606 just to compare. Or maybe one of my 648 cars.
> >>
> >> Sent from my iPhone
> >>
> >>> On Jan 21, 2022, at 5:39 PM, OK Don via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Have you measured the amps on another car with a similar sized/type
> >> (fuel)
> >>> engine to see if 300A is in the ballpark?
> >>>
>  On Fri, Jan 21, 2022 at 4:25 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
>  mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>  So you all recall I did some testing due to car turning over slow.  I
>  had figured it was time for a replacement starter but the 2 year old
>  battery tested bad, so I replaced it with a new AGM battery.  It
> seemed
>  to turn over faster the other day but still not as fast as I figure it
>  should.  Starter still drawing about 300 amps.  Yesterday the wife
> left
>  and it was probably around 20 outside.  She said it cycled thru 2
>  keyless go starts but timed out.  Took the button out and used key and
>  started it.  Earlier today with it around 30 outside, she left, and it
>  turned over very slowly with first cycle before timing out.  2nd cycle
>  it finally started.  I am thinking I am probably going to have to go
>  ahead with the starter replacement anyway.  As mentioned before, I
> can't
>  really even see it from above, or below while its on the lift. Looking
>  at the procedure in WIS it basically appears as if you have to get it
> up
>  on the lift, support engine with engine support fixture (which I don't
>  have), remove engine mount and engine mount arm?  This is going to be
> a
>  whore of a job.  Jono?
> 
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> >>>
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> >>> pause and reflect." Mark Twain
> >>>
> >>> “Basic research is what I’m doing when I don’t know what I am doing.”
> >> Wernher
> >>> Von Braun
> >>> 2013 F150, 18 mpg
> >>> 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg
> >>> 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph!
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> > pause and reflect." Mark Twain
> >
> > “Basic research is what I’m doing when I don’t know what I am doing.”
> Wernher
> > Von Braun
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> > 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg
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Re: [MBZ] GL 642 starter

[dan penoff.com via Mercedes]

But what happens in a year or two when he goes looking for them?

-D


> On Jan 21, 2022, at 7:06 PM, OK Don via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Check them all, write the Amps down near the battery or measuring point, so
> if you think they might be getting slow in the future, you have a reference
> number. Hmmm - I did that for the airplane, I'll go and do it for the car
> and truck tomorrow - take my own advice!
> 
> On Fri, Jan 21, 2022 at 5:50 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> The only other 642 I have is the R320 and to me it always seemed to turn
>> over slow also, so not sure if it’s a good benchmark. I might check the
>> e300 606 just to compare. Or maybe one of my 648 cars.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Jan 21, 2022, at 5:39 PM, OK Don via Mercedes 
>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Have you measured the amps on another car with a similar sized/type
>> (fuel)
>>> engine to see if 300A is in the ballpark?
>>> 
 On Fri, Jan 21, 2022 at 4:25 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
 mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
 
 So you all recall I did some testing due to car turning over slow.  I
 had figured it was time for a replacement starter but the 2 year old
 battery tested bad, so I replaced it with a new AGM battery.  It seemed
 to turn over faster the other day but still not as fast as I figure it
 should.  Starter still drawing about 300 amps.  Yesterday the wife left
 and it was probably around 20 outside.  She said it cycled thru 2
 keyless go starts but timed out.  Took the button out and used key and
 started it.  Earlier today with it around 30 outside, she left, and it
 turned over very slowly with first cycle before timing out.  2nd cycle
 it finally started.  I am thinking I am probably going to have to go
 ahead with the starter replacement anyway.  As mentioned before, I can't
 really even see it from above, or below while its on the lift. Looking
 at the procedure in WIS it basically appears as if you have to get it up
 on the lift, support engine with engine support fixture (which I don't
 have), remove engine mount and engine mount arm?  This is going to be a
 whore of a job.  Jono?
 
 
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>>> 
>>> --
>>> OK Don
>>> 
>>> "Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to
>>> pause and reflect." Mark Twain
>>> 
>>> “Basic research is what I’m doing when I don’t know what I am doing.”
>> Wernher
>>> Von Braun
>>> 2013 F150, 18 mpg
>>> 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg
>>> 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph!
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> 
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> pause and reflect." Mark Twain
> 
> “Basic research is what I’m doing when I don’t know what I am doing.”  Wernher
> Von Braun
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Re: [MBZ] GL 642 starter

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

Good advice 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 21, 2022, at 6:07 PM, OK Don via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Check them all, write the Amps down near the battery or measuring point, so
> if you think they might be getting slow in the future, you have a reference
> number. Hmmm - I did that for the airplane, I'll go and do it for the car
> and truck tomorrow - take my own advice!
> 
>> On Fri, Jan 21, 2022 at 5:50 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>> The only other 642 I have is the R320 and to me it always seemed to turn
>> over slow also, so not sure if it’s a good benchmark. I might check the
>> e300 606 just to compare. Or maybe one of my 648 cars.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Jan 21, 2022, at 5:39 PM, OK Don via Mercedes 
>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Have you measured the amps on another car with a similar sized/type
>> (fuel)
>>> engine to see if 300A is in the ballpark?
>>> 
 On Fri, Jan 21, 2022 at 4:25 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
 mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
 
 So you all recall I did some testing due to car turning over slow.  I
 had figured it was time for a replacement starter but the 2 year old
 battery tested bad, so I replaced it with a new AGM battery.  It seemed
 to turn over faster the other day but still not as fast as I figure it
 should.  Starter still drawing about 300 amps.  Yesterday the wife left
 and it was probably around 20 outside.  She said it cycled thru 2
 keyless go starts but timed out.  Took the button out and used key and
 started it.  Earlier today with it around 30 outside, she left, and it
 turned over very slowly with first cycle before timing out.  2nd cycle
 it finally started.  I am thinking I am probably going to have to go
 ahead with the starter replacement anyway.  As mentioned before, I can't
 really even see it from above, or below while its on the lift. Looking
 at the procedure in WIS it basically appears as if you have to get it up
 on the lift, support engine with engine support fixture (which I don't
 have), remove engine mount and engine mount arm?  This is going to be a
 whore of a job.  Jono?
 
 
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Re: [MBZ] GL 642 starter

[OK Don via Mercedes]

Check them all, write the Amps down near the battery or measuring point, so
if you think they might be getting slow in the future, you have a reference
number. Hmmm - I did that for the airplane, I'll go and do it for the car
and truck tomorrow - take my own advice!

On Fri, Jan 21, 2022 at 5:50 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> The only other 642 I have is the R320 and to me it always seemed to turn
> over slow also, so not sure if it’s a good benchmark. I might check the
> e300 606 just to compare. Or maybe one of my 648 cars.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Jan 21, 2022, at 5:39 PM, OK Don via Mercedes 
> wrote:
> >
> > Have you measured the amps on another car with a similar sized/type
> (fuel)
> > engine to see if 300A is in the ballpark?
> >
> >> On Fri, Jan 21, 2022 at 4:25 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
> >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> So you all recall I did some testing due to car turning over slow.  I
> >> had figured it was time for a replacement starter but the 2 year old
> >> battery tested bad, so I replaced it with a new AGM battery.  It seemed
> >> to turn over faster the other day but still not as fast as I figure it
> >> should.  Starter still drawing about 300 amps.  Yesterday the wife left
> >> and it was probably around 20 outside.  She said it cycled thru 2
> >> keyless go starts but timed out.  Took the button out and used key and
> >> started it.  Earlier today with it around 30 outside, she left, and it
> >> turned over very slowly with first cycle before timing out.  2nd cycle
> >> it finally started.  I am thinking I am probably going to have to go
> >> ahead with the starter replacement anyway.  As mentioned before, I can't
> >> really even see it from above, or below while its on the lift. Looking
> >> at the procedure in WIS it basically appears as if you have to get it up
> >> on the lift, support engine with engine support fixture (which I don't
> >> have), remove engine mount and engine mount arm?  This is going to be a
> >> whore of a job.  Jono?
> >>
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Re: [MBZ] GL 642 starter

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

The only other 642 I have is the R320 and to me it always seemed to turn over 
slow also, so not sure if it’s a good benchmark. I might check the e300 606 
just to compare. Or maybe one of my 648 cars. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 21, 2022, at 5:39 PM, OK Don via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Have you measured the amps on another car with a similar sized/type (fuel)
> engine to see if 300A is in the ballpark?
> 
>> On Fri, Jan 21, 2022 at 4:25 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>> So you all recall I did some testing due to car turning over slow.  I
>> had figured it was time for a replacement starter but the 2 year old
>> battery tested bad, so I replaced it with a new AGM battery.  It seemed
>> to turn over faster the other day but still not as fast as I figure it
>> should.  Starter still drawing about 300 amps.  Yesterday the wife left
>> and it was probably around 20 outside.  She said it cycled thru 2
>> keyless go starts but timed out.  Took the button out and used key and
>> started it.  Earlier today with it around 30 outside, she left, and it
>> turned over very slowly with first cycle before timing out.  2nd cycle
>> it finally started.  I am thinking I am probably going to have to go
>> ahead with the starter replacement anyway.  As mentioned before, I can't
>> really even see it from above, or below while its on the lift. Looking
>> at the procedure in WIS it basically appears as if you have to get it up
>> on the lift, support engine with engine support fixture (which I don't
>> have), remove engine mount and engine mount arm?  This is going to be a
>> whore of a job.  Jono?
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] GL 642 starter

[OK Don via Mercedes]

Have you measured the amps on another car with a similar sized/type (fuel)
engine to see if 300A is in the ballpark?

On Fri, Jan 21, 2022 at 4:25 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> So you all recall I did some testing due to car turning over slow.  I
> had figured it was time for a replacement starter but the 2 year old
> battery tested bad, so I replaced it with a new AGM battery.  It seemed
> to turn over faster the other day but still not as fast as I figure it
> should.  Starter still drawing about 300 amps.  Yesterday the wife left
> and it was probably around 20 outside.  She said it cycled thru 2
> keyless go starts but timed out.  Took the button out and used key and
> started it.  Earlier today with it around 30 outside, she left, and it
> turned over very slowly with first cycle before timing out.  2nd cycle
> it finally started.  I am thinking I am probably going to have to go
> ahead with the starter replacement anyway.  As mentioned before, I can't
> really even see it from above, or below while its on the lift. Looking
> at the procedure in WIS it basically appears as if you have to get it up
> on the lift, support engine with engine support fixture (which I don't
> have), remove engine mount and engine mount arm?  This is going to be a
> whore of a job.  Jono?
>
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Re: [MBZ] What a Random Batch of Stuff

[Michael Esh via Mercedes]

Yea, the guy has been around a long time and it sounds like he is trying clean 
up his place.  In the past his parts have been overpriced in my opinion. 
Maybe I’ll take a trip over there in the spring.  Way to cold and snowy right 
now.  

Mike 


> On Jan 21, 2022, at 3:40 PM, mitch--- via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> On 2022-01-21 14:48, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes wrote:
>> Could be a source for stuff?
> 
> Hudsonville. I could be there in 90 minutes, probably under a half hour for 
> Mike Esh.
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Re: [MBZ] Another copart ML

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

Of course I just noticed it does not have the trailer hitch. Thought 
these all came with it.  Without it, kind of defeats my purpose of 
wanting to use it to tow on occasion.


On 1/21/2022 5:14 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
This one has also ran a few times and still not sold.  Rebuilt title 
but at least its listed as run and drive.


https://www.copart.com/lot/31357612/clean-title-2007-mercedes-benz-ml-320-cdi-ne-lincoln 



If you look it up on the russian site, you can see the IAA auction 
from previously with the damage which caused it to have a rebuilt 
title, since fixed.  Damage was not bad at all.


https://autohelperbot.com/en/car/4JGBB22E37A209157_21535780


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[MBZ] Another copart ML

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

This one has also ran a few times and still not sold.  Rebuilt title but 
at least its listed as run and drive.


https://www.copart.com/lot/31357612/clean-title-2007-mercedes-benz-ml-320-cdi-ne-lincoln

If you look it up on the russian site, you can see the IAA auction from 
previously with the damage which caused it to have a rebuilt title, 
since fixed.  Damage was not bad at all.


https://autohelperbot.com/en/car/4JGBB22E37A209157_21535780


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Re: [MBZ] GL 642 starter

[Allan Streib via Mercedes]

On my Volvo XC90 the battery is in the very back of the car, under the floor 
just in front of the tailgate. Even with a brand new battery I think the 
starter sounds slower than what I am used to in other cars. I think part of it 
is that with only 12V and a 10 foot distance (maybe more, allowing for routing 
of the cable) you're just going to have some losses unless your cabling is the 
size of a garden hose.

On Fri, Jan 21, 2022, at 5:59 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
> It would basically be impossible.  The starter would have to be removed 
> and readjusted (pointed down) to get at the connections on the starter 
> to check or remove.  Battery is inside the car so I guess you could do 
> it with a super long cable assuming you could somehow get to the starter 
> connections.
>
> On 1/21/2022 4:56 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes wrote:
>> I guess the difficuly being that he says "I can't really even see it from 
>> above, or below" ("it" being the starter), so it might be hard to get at the 
>> cable attachment points with the meter leads.
>>
>> On Fri, Jan 21, 2022, at 5:51 PM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes wrote:
>>> The starter _might_ be bad, but the cabling is just as suspect.
>>> There are at least three high-current cables involved, and all
>>> should be tested for voltage drop while starting:
>>>
>>> Bat+ to starter
>>> Bat- to frame
>>> Frame to engine
>>>
>>> You can do it with two tests:
>>>
>>> Bat+ (center post) to bolt end on starter
>>> Bat- (center post) to engine block
>>>
>>> You'll almost certainly need more than one set
>>> of hands to do these tests correctly.  Hint: none
>>> of the contacts you make with the meter should
>>> be to any part of any cables in question.
>>>
>>> You need a fast-reading meter, one that can track
>>> voltage fluctuations well.  An old-school analog
>>> meter is ideal, but a Fluke (with its analog auxiliary
>>> scale) will do.
>>>
>>> If you're losing anywhere near a volt in any of the
>>> cabling, that's way too much.
>>>
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Re: [MBZ] GL 642 starter

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

It would basically be impossible.  The starter would have to be removed 
and readjusted (pointed down) to get at the connections on the starter 
to check or remove.  Battery is inside the car so I guess you could do 
it with a super long cable assuming you could somehow get to the starter 
connections.


On 1/21/2022 4:56 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes wrote:

I guess the difficuly being that he says "I can't really even see it from above, or 
below" ("it" being the starter), so it might be hard to get at the cable attachment 
points with the meter leads.

On Fri, Jan 21, 2022, at 5:51 PM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes wrote:

The starter _might_ be bad, but the cabling is just as suspect.
There are at least three high-current cables involved, and all
should be tested for voltage drop while starting:

Bat+ to starter
Bat- to frame
Frame to engine

You can do it with two tests:

Bat+ (center post) to bolt end on starter
Bat- (center post) to engine block

You'll almost certainly need more than one set
of hands to do these tests correctly.  Hint: none
of the contacts you make with the meter should
be to any part of any cables in question.

You need a fast-reading meter, one that can track
voltage fluctuations well.  An old-school analog
meter is ideal, but a Fluke (with its analog auxiliary
scale) will do.

If you're losing anywhere near a volt in any of the
cabling, that's way too much.

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] GL 642 starter

[Allan Streib via Mercedes]

I guess the difficuly being that he says "I can't really even see it from 
above, or below" ("it" being the starter), so it might be hard to get at the 
cable attachment points with the meter leads.

On Fri, Jan 21, 2022, at 5:51 PM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes wrote:
> The starter _might_ be bad, but the cabling is just as suspect.
> There are at least three high-current cables involved, and all
> should be tested for voltage drop while starting:
>
>   Bat+ to starter
>   Bat- to frame
>   Frame to engine
>
> You can do it with two tests:
>
>   Bat+ (center post) to bolt end on starter
>   Bat- (center post) to engine block
>
> You'll almost certainly need more than one set
> of hands to do these tests correctly.  Hint: none
> of the contacts you make with the meter should
> be to any part of any cables in question.
>
> You need a fast-reading meter, one that can track
> voltage fluctuations well.  An old-school analog
> meter is ideal, but a Fluke (with its analog auxiliary
> scale) will do.
>
> If you're losing anywhere near a volt in any of the
> cabling, that's way too much.
>
> -- Jim
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Re: [MBZ] GL 642 starter

[Jim Cathey via Mercedes]

The starter _might_ be bad, but the cabling is just as suspect.
There are at least three high-current cables involved, and all
should be tested for voltage drop while starting:

Bat+ to starter
Bat- to frame
Frame to engine

You can do it with two tests:

Bat+ (center post) to bolt end on starter
Bat- (center post) to engine block

You'll almost certainly need more than one set
of hands to do these tests correctly.  Hint: none
of the contacts you make with the meter should
be to any part of any cables in question.

You need a fast-reading meter, one that can track
voltage fluctuations well.  An old-school analog
meter is ideal, but a Fluke (with its analog auxiliary
scale) will do.

If you're losing anywhere near a volt in any of the
cabling, that's way too much.

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] The copart ML runs thru again

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

Yep

On 1/21/2022 4:33 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes wrote:

There will be others. When you get emotionally attached to the idea of a 
specific car, that's when you lose your objectivity and end up paying too much.


On Fri, Jan 21, 2022, at 5:26 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote:

Well you have a deposit on file so I would assume you lose your deposit
then the car goes back up for auction . I am still pissed I lost this
one.  This is a game I have been playing for the last month, came out
the winner in the last 4 auctions and some dude shows up out of the blue
wanting it real bad.  I guess it was not meant to be.

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Re: [MBZ] The copart ML runs thru again

[Allan Streib via Mercedes]

There will be others. When you get emotionally attached to the idea of a 
specific car, that's when you lose your objectivity and end up paying too much.


On Fri, Jan 21, 2022, at 5:26 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
> Well you have a deposit on file so I would assume you lose your deposit 
> then the car goes back up for auction . I am still pissed I lost this 
> one.  This is a game I have been playing for the last month, came out 
> the winner in the last 4 auctions and some dude shows up out of the blue 
> wanting it real bad.  I guess it was not meant to be.

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Re: [MBZ] Wheels

[Allan Streib via Mercedes]

Finally got to looking at this... as a reminder I already have a set of 18" 
snow tires so I am looking for an extra set of wheels to mount those on, so I 
can change them without having to have a tire shop involved.

According to that website, the OE wheels would be 7.5Jx18 ET49, center bore 
67.1, bolt pattern 5x108.

The only vehicle that comes up for those parameters is the Volvo XC90, 
2003--2014.

If I add some +/- to the offset and center bore I also get a Citroen. Not sure 
how far I can reasonably deviate on those.

So as far as salvage wheels it looks like I don't have any other options.


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> Oops, forgot the link.
> https://www.wheel-size.com/
>
> On 2021-12-09 16:30, mi...@mitchellhaley.com wrote:
>
>> You might check here and see what else matches,
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Re: [MBZ] The copart ML runs thru again

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

Well you have a deposit on file so I would assume you lose your deposit 
then the car goes back up for auction . I am still pissed I lost this 
one.  This is a game I have been playing for the last month, came out 
the winner in the last 4 auctions and some dude shows up out of the blue 
wanting it real bad.  I guess it was not meant to be.


On 1/21/2022 4:22 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes wrote:

What do they do if you win a bid and don't pick it up?


Rick

From: mercedes@okiebenz.com
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To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
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Cc: ka...@striplin.net
Subject: Re: [MBZ] The copart ML runs thru again

True. I sure did not need this at all but after I regretted selling that 
project one I had, I had this one hung up in my mind. I could have had it 
yesterday for $3k if I would have taken the copart guy up on his offer when he 
called yesterday. Even at that it was way too much money. The guy who bid it up 
is a dummy IMO. No way it’s worth that and I saw it in person.

Sent from my iPhone


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wrote:

Bidding one increment below reserve is one way to make sure it sells I guess.

And the seller proved us wrong by exercising patience and eventually getting 
what he wanted.

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Re: [MBZ] Ooookkkk

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

Sounds like a good deal

I guess the old lady is available?

On 1/21/22 4:17 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote:




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[MBZ] GL 642 starter

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

So you all recall I did some testing due to car turning over slow.  I 
had figured it was time for a replacement starter but the 2 year old 
battery tested bad, so I replaced it with a new AGM battery.  It seemed 
to turn over faster the other day but still not as fast as I figure it 
should.  Starter still drawing about 300 amps.  Yesterday the wife left 
and it was probably around 20 outside.  She said it cycled thru 2 
keyless go starts but timed out.  Took the button out and used key and 
started it.  Earlier today with it around 30 outside, she left, and it 
turned over very slowly with first cycle before timing out.  2nd cycle 
it finally started.  I am thinking I am probably going to have to go 
ahead with the starter replacement anyway.  As mentioned before, I can't 
really even see it from above, or below while its on the lift. Looking 
at the procedure in WIS it basically appears as if you have to get it up 
on the lift, support engine with engine support fixture (which I don't 
have), remove engine mount and engine mount arm?  This is going to be a 
whore of a job.  Jono?



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Re: [MBZ] Marketing Minimalist

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It's in excellent condition


On 1/21/22 5:17 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:

https://tampa.craigslist.org/pnl/cto/d/new-port-richey-2002-mercedes-s500/7435930943.html

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Re: [MBZ] The copart ML runs thru again

[Rick Knoble via Mercedes]

What do they do if you win a bid and don't pick it up?


Rick

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True. I sure did not need this at all but after I regretted selling that 
project one I had, I had this one hung up in my mind. I could have had it 
yesterday for $3k if I would have taken the copart guy up on his offer when he 
called yesterday. Even at that it was way too much money. The guy who bid it up 
is a dummy IMO. No way it’s worth that and I saw it in person.

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> Bidding one increment below reserve is one way to make sure it sells I guess.
>
> And the seller proved us wrong by exercising patience and eventually getting 
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[MBZ] Marketing Minimalist

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https://tampa.craigslist.org/pnl/cto/d/new-port-richey-2002-mercedes-s500/7435930943.html

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Re: [MBZ] 211 tires -- this works out well, so far anyway

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Sounds like a plan!

On Fri, Jan 21, 2022 at 4:05 PM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
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> I ordered a pair of tires for the 05E320 wagon off Amazon, best price I
> could find (same as El Mercado de Wal).  They will ship to a tire shop
> for mounting, I found a place that will do them for $16 each, which
> turns out to be right next to the campus where I am taking my welding
> class.  So you can make an appointment when you buy the tires.  I did
> that for right before my class, can drop the car off, walk over to
> class, walk back and the tires should be done.  Waiting to hear back on
> the appt.
>
> I'm going to put the takeoffs on the front of the 04E500 as those tires
> are completely shot, probably due to bad ball joints or control arms or
> something.  The old rear tires on the wagon are not real bad but getting
> worn, the fronts are fairly new, they will be better than what is on the
> E500 now and will last until they wear out or I get the front end
> sorted, whichever comes first.  I'll throw the wheels in the back of the
> wagon and have them do the swap at the same time as the new ones get
> mounted.  The E500 has a pretty new pair of Michelins on the back, same
> size, so this should work out OK for now and give me a bit of peace of
> mind driving it.
>
> These are Continental ContiProContact All-Season Radial Tire - 225/55R16
> 99H
> <
> https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07D9BT44R/ref=ppx_od_dt_b_asin_title_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1>
>
> not cheap at $162.81 each, wow.
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[MBZ] 211 tires -- this works out well, so far anyway

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

I ordered a pair of tires for the 05E320 wagon off Amazon, best price I 
could find (same as El Mercado de Wal).  They will ship to a tire shop 
for mounting, I found a place that will do them for $16 each, which 
turns out to be right next to the campus where I am taking my welding 
class.  So you can make an appointment when you buy the tires.  I did 
that for right before my class, can drop the car off, walk over to 
class, walk back and the tires should be done.  Waiting to hear back on 
the appt.


I'm going to put the takeoffs on the front of the 04E500 as those tires 
are completely shot, probably due to bad ball joints or control arms or 
something.  The old rear tires on the wagon are not real bad but getting 
worn, the fronts are fairly new, they will be better than what is on the 
E500 now and will last until they wear out or I get the front end 
sorted, whichever comes first.  I'll throw the wheels in the back of the 
wagon and have them do the swap at the same time as the new ones get 
mounted.  The E500 has a pretty new pair of Michelins on the back, same 
size, so this should work out OK for now and give me a bit of peace of 
mind driving it.


These are Continental ContiProContact All-Season Radial Tire - 225/55R16 
99H 
 
not cheap at $162.81 each, wow.


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Re: [MBZ] What a Random Batch of Stuff

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Hudsonville - hard core Dutch country. Tough to imagine any deals there.

-D

> On Jan 21, 2022, at 3:39 PM, mitch--- via Mercedes  
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> On 2022-01-21 14:48, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes wrote:
>> Could be a source for stuff?
> 
> Hudsonville. I could be there in 90 minutes, probably under a half hour for 
> Mike Esh.
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Re: [MBZ] oh my... 450 sl benz - $6,000 (jacksonville)

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Too new for an engine fire, most likely. Those were the 1975-6 models with the 
“mini-cats” under the hood. Used to see at least one of them a month on CL 
around here where the engine compartment and hood were toasted.

-D

> On Jan 21, 2022, at 4:31 PM, OK Don via Mercedes  
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> 
> DId it have an engine fire? Or is that how the paint ages after 43 years of
> sitting in the sun?
> 
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> 
>> This is, uhh, interesting
>> 
>> 
>> https://jacksonville.craigslist.org/cto/d/jacksonville-450-sl-benz/7435812524.html
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] oh my... 450 sl benz - $6,000 (jacksonville)

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IDK where the '79 had its catalytic converter, but if under the hood that might 
be part of it? Maybe the hood pad/insulation is missing as well?


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> DId it have an engine fire? Or is that how the paint ages after 43 years of
> sitting in the sun?
>
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>> This is, uhh, interesting
>>
>>
>> https://jacksonville.craigslist.org/cto/d/jacksonville-450-sl-benz/7435812524.html
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Re: [MBZ] oh my... 450 sl benz - $6,000 (jacksonville)

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DId it have an engine fire? Or is that how the paint ages after 43 years of
sitting in the sun?

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> This is, uhh, interesting
>
>
> https://jacksonville.craigslist.org/cto/d/jacksonville-450-sl-benz/7435812524.html
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Re: [MBZ] I'm not sure the blackout look works on a silver car 2007 MERCEDES-BENZ S600 ~~ V12 ~~ Bi-Turbo ~~ On sale ~~727-388-1516 ~ - $14, 990 (TAMPA BAY WHOLESALE CARS INC.)

[Allan Streib via Mercedes]

It's not terrible, but it doesn't do much for me. Just makes it look like a 19 
year old owns it.

On Fri, Jan 21, 2022, at 4:03 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote:
> https://tampa.craigslist.org/pnl/ctd/d/clearwater-2007-mercedes-benz-s600-v12/7435795256.html
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https://tampa.craigslist.org/pnl/ctd/d/clearwater-2007-mercedes-benz-s600-v12/7435795256.html

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[MBZ] oh my... 450 sl benz - $6,000 (jacksonville)

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This is, uhh, interesting

https://jacksonville.craigslist.org/cto/d/jacksonville-450-sl-benz/7435812524.html

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Re: [MBZ] What a Random Batch of Stuff

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On 2022-01-21 14:48, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes wrote:

Could be a source for stuff?


Hudsonville. I could be there in 90 minutes, probably under a half hour 
for Mike Esh.


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Re: [MBZ] The copart ML runs thru again

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Probably so. 

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> Looks like the guy did you a favor 
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>> On Jan 21, 2022, at 1:28 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
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>> 
>> I set my max at $3200, somebody from Georgia wanted it real bad and quickly 
>> ran up the bid to that. I threw in a couple more bids up to $3400 and lost. 
>> Reserve was $3500 so I’m sure that guy will end up with it. Oh well. After 
>> fees that is way too much for that without even knowing if it runs or not. 
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Re: [MBZ] The copart ML runs thru again

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True. I sure did not need this at all but after I regretted selling that 
project one I had, I had this one hung up in my mind. I could have had it 
yesterday for $3k if I would have taken the copart guy up on his offer when he 
called yesterday. Even at that it was way too much money. The guy who bid it up 
is a dummy IMO. No way it’s worth that and I saw it in person. 

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> Bidding one increment below reserve is one way to make sure it sells I guess.
> 
> And the seller proved us wrong by exercising patience and eventually getting 
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Re: [MBZ] The copart ML runs thru again

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Looks like the guy did you a favor 

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> On Jan 21, 2022, at 1:28 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
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> I set my max at $3200, somebody from Georgia wanted it real bad and quickly 
> ran up the bid to that. I threw in a couple more bids up to $3400 and lost. 
> Reserve was $3500 so I’m sure that guy will end up with it. Oh well. After 
> fees that is way too much for that without even knowing if it runs or not. 
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Re: [MBZ] The copart ML runs thru again

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Bidding one increment below reserve is one way to make sure it sells I 
guess.


And the seller proved us wrong by exercising patience and eventually 
getting what he wanted.


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[MBZ] What a Random Batch of Stuff

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Could be a source for stuff?  

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[MBZ] The copart ML runs thru again

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I set my max at $3200, somebody from Georgia wanted it real bad and quickly ran 
up the bid to that. I threw in a couple more bids up to $3400 and lost. Reserve 
was $3500 so I’m sure that guy will end up with it. Oh well. After fees that is 
way too much for that without even knowing if it runs or not. 

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Re: [MBZ] That's not the E350 we're looking for....

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

Not really,

F350 = 1 ton pickup truck
E350 = 1 ton van

-Curt






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That seller is seriously confused.

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Re: [MBZ] Runs well, just a jerk of you Runs great and everything works 1985 Mercedes 300D W123 - $6, 800 (Southside)

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Ask whether the hood can actually latch fully.

On Fri, Jan 21, 2022 at 9:43 AM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
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> looks nice, blue/blue
>
> */Engine with 168k miles has been replaced two years ago, transmission
> about 6 years ago…
> /*
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> https://jacksonville.craigslist.org/cto/d/jacksonville-runs-great-and-everything/7435649901.html
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Re: [MBZ] Has a CRACK WINDSHIELD 2006 Mercedes Benz CLS500 $FIRM$ - $7, 000 (Charlotte)

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At least he tried to color match the duct tape to the torn leather.

On Fri, Jan 21, 2022 at 10:04 AM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
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> Cracko Bell
>
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>
> On 1/21/22 9:43 AM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:
> > To Taco Bell? Love the patch on the driver’s seat bottom cushion.
> >
> > -D
> >
> >> On Jan 21, 2022, at 9:40 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes<
> mercedes@okiebenz.com>  wrote:
> >>
> >> Just the thing for those midnight runs
> >>
> >>
> https://charlotte.craigslist.org/cto/d/2006-mercedes-benz-cls500-firm/7435227462.html
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Re: [MBZ] Loudvision Ceo: I am a LLC mechanic so I can do work my self 2007 Mercedes-Benz CLS-Class CLS 550 Coupe 4D, $3, 500

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Stylish 4 door coupe.

On Fri, Jan 21, 2022 at 10:18 AM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
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> Please send Loudvision Ceo some commas
>
> needs driver side rear air shock..shock will let up but leaks down once
> the car sits for a while or over night stays up while your driving also
> needs lower ball joints I ordered them alredi and the tool do it with
> should be here by Friday
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Re: [MBZ] 2003 E320 - 120k miles - $3,350

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Less than Chicago, but not zero.

On Fri, Jan 21, 2022, at 12:04 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes wrote:
> My biggest question is how much salt do they use on the roads in Louisville?
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> Rick
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> Looks fairly clean and comes across as an honest ad. A bit of a dent on 
> the driver's door. Price seems a little high, but miles aren't bad. I'd 
> believe that the brake "mulfunction" happened concurrent with the brake 
> work, but is that the message you'd get if the brake shop didn't 
> replace the wear sensors?
>
> Color scheme is boring also.
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Re: [MBZ] 2003 E320 - 120k miles - $3,350

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Same boring colors as my 04E500. I am driving it today. It feels too bright. 

I’d scan for SBC errors but it could be wear indicators

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> On Jan 21, 2022, at 12:01 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
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> Looks fairly clean and comes across as an honest ad. A bit of a dent on the 
> driver's door. Price seems a little high, but miles aren't bad. I'd believe 
> that the brake "mulfunction" happened concurrent with the brake work, but is 
> that the message you'd get if the brake shop didn't replace the wear sensors?
> 
> Color scheme is boring also.
> 
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Re: [MBZ] That's not the E350 we're looking for....

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That seller is seriously confused.

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Re: [MBZ] 2003 E320 - 120k miles - $3,350

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My biggest question is how much salt do they use on the roads in Louisville?


Rick

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Subject: [MBZ] 2003 E320 - 120k miles - $3,350

Looks fairly clean and comes across as an honest ad. A bit of a dent on the 
driver's door. Price seems a little high, but miles aren't bad. I'd believe 
that the brake "mulfunction" happened concurrent with the brake work, but is 
that the message you'd get if the brake shop didn't replace the wear sensors?

Color scheme is boring also.

https://louisville.craigslist.org/cto/d/louisville-mercedes-benz-k-clean-title/7435473617.html
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[MBZ] That's not the E350 we're looking for....

[Allan Streib via Mercedes]

https://toledo.craigslist.org/cto/d/toledo-2003-e250/7435604658.html
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[MBZ] 2003 E320 - 120k miles - $3,350

[Allan Streib via Mercedes]

Looks fairly clean and comes across as an honest ad. A bit of a dent on the 
driver's door. Price seems a little high, but miles aren't bad. I'd believe 
that the brake "mulfunction" happened concurrent with the brake work, but is 
that the message you'd get if the brake shop didn't replace the wear sensors?

Color scheme is boring also.

https://louisville.craigslist.org/cto/d/louisville-mercedes-benz-k-clean-title/7435473617.html
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[MBZ] Nice Flahduh car way overpriced 2003 Mercedes-Benz E-Class E 320 Sedan 4D, $6, 000

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/3006228106265128

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[MBZ] AMG E55 Decals (E55 Look) 2004 Mercedes-Benz E-Class E 320 Sedan 4D, $3, 500

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

My ID says Benzamin Franklin

For 3500$ you can't beat it i may be somewhat negotiable on price but 
will only negotiate in person!!! Please bring your ID and your Cash


https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/234688022168169

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[MBZ] Loudvision Ceo: I am a LLC mechanic so I can do work my self 2007 Mercedes-Benz CLS-Class CLS 550 Coupe 4D, $3, 500

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

Please send Loudvision Ceo some commas

needs driver side rear air shock..shock will let up but leaks down once 
the car sits for a while or over night stays up while your driving also 
needs lower ball joints I ordered them alredi and the tool do it with 
should be here by Friday


https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/987465345456185

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[MBZ] This looks reasonably decent 1990 Mercedes-Benz 350sdl, $3, 000

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

Might be a bit overpriced considering it looks like stuff is taken apart

Driven 207,000 miles


   Seller's Description

Try this one last time. Runs and drives just needs cosmetic things like 
light bezels and seat covers. Just ordered new glow plugs they'll be 
here next week. Has new tires and bulbs all the way around, new radiator 
hose and coolant. Has clean title. 3,000 obo possible trades


https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/914294795895227

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[MBZ] Overpriced by about $1k 2000 Mercedes-Benz E-Class E 320 AWD Wagon 4D, $3, 250

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/473316271021980

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[MBZ] The crankshaft pulley fell off and will require an extraordinary effort to repair. 1982 Mercedes-Benz Mercedes-Benz 300 D Sedan 4D, $500

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

   Seller's Description

Selling my dad's 1982 Mercedes 300D turbodiesel. Has the 5 cylinder 3.0L 
diesel. The crankshaft pulley fell off and will require an extraordinary 
effort to repair. Hasn't been started in 5 years. The turbocharger was 
removed and used on another car, otherwise, this car is 100% complete. 
Asking $500. Can deliver for a fee.

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/3176777022543884

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Re: [MBZ] Has a CRACK WINDSHIELD 2006 Mercedes Benz CLS500 $FIRM$ - $7, 000 (Charlotte)

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

Cracko Bell

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On 1/21/22 9:43 AM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:

To Taco Bell? Love the patch on the driver’s seat bottom cushion.

-D


On Jan 21, 2022, at 9:40 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes  
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Just the thing for those midnight runs

https://charlotte.craigslist.org/cto/d/2006-mercedes-benz-cls500-firm/7435227462.html

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[MBZ] hood needs to be repainted, vehicle has a rebuilt title, 2004 Mercedes e500, 83k miles - $1 (Clearwater) only asking 4900....obo....

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

Xenu has infested the hood, needs to be CLEARED

https://tampa.craigslist.org/pnl/ctd/d/clearwater-2004-mercedes-e500-83k-miles/7435525882.html

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Re: [MBZ] Has a CRACK WINDSHIELD 2006 Mercedes Benz CLS500 $FIRM$ - $7, 000 (Charlotte)

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To Taco Bell? Love the patch on the driver’s seat bottom cushion.

-D

> On Jan 21, 2022, at 9:40 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
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> Just the thing for those midnight runs
> 
> https://charlotte.craigslist.org/cto/d/2006-mercedes-benz-cls500-firm/7435227462.html
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[MBZ] Runs well, just a jerk of you Runs great and everything works 1985 Mercedes 300D W123 - $6, 800 (Southside)

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

looks nice, blue/blue

*/Engine with 168k miles has been replaced two years ago, transmission 
about 6 years ago…

/*

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[MBZ] Has a CRACK WINDSHIELD 2006 Mercedes Benz CLS500 $FIRM$ - $7, 000 (Charlotte)

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

Just the thing for those midnight runs

https://charlotte.craigslist.org/cto/d/2006-mercedes-benz-cls500-firm/7435227462.html

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Re: [MBZ] Check engine light is on but been on since I had it. 2008 cls550 - $9, 000

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Cool looking car, but overly optimistic (and sensitive?) seller.

-D

> On Jan 21, 2022, at 9:36 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
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> 
> Had it put on diagnostic machine an they couldn’t find anything they say 
> those cars are just sensitive.
> 
> https://charlotte.craigslist.org/cto/d/charlotte-2008-cls550/7435470636.html
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Re: [MBZ] How much is wrong with this 420 Mercedes Benz ML - $5, 000 (Augusta)

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Need to lose the wheels. Tow hook cover is missing.

-D

> On Jan 21, 2022, at 9:34 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
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> *1995 mercedes benz e420*
> 
> *https://augusta.craigslist.org/cto/d/augusta-420-mercedes-benz-ml/7435597998.html
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[MBZ] Check engine light is on but been on since I had it. 2008 cls550 - $9, 000

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

Had it put on diagnostic machine an they couldn’t find anything they say 
those cars are just sensitive.


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[MBZ] How much is wrong with this 420 Mercedes Benz ML - $5, 000 (Augusta)

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

*1995 mercedes benz e420*

*https://augusta.craigslist.org/cto/d/augusta-420-mercedes-benz-ml/7435597998.html
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Re: [MBZ] Curt…Can’t Go Wrong?

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

This.
A friend had a Jetta with the 1.8T gas engine and tried to stretch the timing 
belt interval, at 5,000 miles over the belt snapped. Fortunately his didn't 
damage the bottom end but it was top end rebuild time.

I find the auto-box makes these very boring to drive. Newer ones have a DSG 
which I find irritating to drive. If you like it that car will have (I think) 
the vernerable ALH (or AHU I forget) engine which is simple to work on and 
should reliably make 50mpg with a manual trans. It *might* have the newer PD 
engine, I can't remember the cut over. The PD engine is more powerful but 
slightly less efficient.

-Curt






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With VWs it's crucial to change out the timing belt at or before the factory 
specified mileage. Be sure that "diligent on maintenance" includes that, or 
plan on doing it immediately if you buy the car.

On Thu, Jan 20, 2022, at 4:51 PM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes wrote:
> So tempted….
>
> AZBob
>> 
>> 
>> https://denver.craigslist.org/cto/d/sedalia-vw-jetta-gdi/7435338647.html
>>  
>> 
>> Bob Rentfro
>> Nuclear Operations Training Instructor
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Re: [MBZ] Curt…Can’t Go Wrong?

[Bob Rentfro via Mercedes]

Unless maintained well, yes they suck. And the dual mass flywheels. Also a PIA. 

I’ll likely reach out to this dude and ask some questions 

AZBob

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> On Jan 20, 2022, at 9:30 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes  
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> That and I've heard VW automatic transmissions suck. Bad.
> 
> 
> Rick
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> 
> With VWs it's crucial to change out the timing belt at or before the factory 
> specified mileage. Be sure that "diligent on maintenance" includes that, or 
> plan on doing it immediately if you buy the car.
> 
>> On Thu, Jan 20, 2022, at 4:51 PM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes wrote:
>> So tempted….
>> 
>> AZBob
>>> 
>>> 
>>> https://denver.craigslist.org/cto/d/sedalia-vw-jetta-gdi/7435338647.html
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Bob Rentfro
>>> Nuclear Operations Training Instructor
>>> 5801 South Wintersburg Road, Tonopah, AZ 85354-7529, M.S. 7896
>>> Office 623.393.6372 Cell 623-695-2072
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Re: [MBZ] Hey Az Bob

[Bob Rentfro via Mercedes]

I’m about 5.5 hrs from Orange. 
I rarely look on eBay any more.   

AZBob. 

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> On Jan 20, 2022, at 10:31 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> How far are you from Orange, CA? I know you sometimes talk about going to CA 
> to pick up a car.
> 
> This seller on eBay always has cars that go for very low bids. Might be worth 
> a look.
> 
> https://www.ebay.com/itm/2004-Mercedes-Benz-E-Class-E-320-/304322382364
> 
> Parts car.
> https://www.ebay.com/itm/1982-Mercedes-Benz-300-Series-300-SD-/304322261951
> 
> Beater for the son.
> https://www.ebay.com/itm/2006-Toyota-Corolla-CE-/373886059081
> 
> All of their cars.
> https://www.ebay.com/str/justdonated
> 
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> Rick
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