Re: [MBZ] Gold 18s - 1988 190E - 62k miles - $8,500

2024-02-11 Thread Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes
Wow. That’s really bad. That’s like a $2k car, maybe, not that I would pay 
that, the seats look good. 

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> On Feb 11, 2024, at 9:30 PM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes 
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> Butt ugly
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Gold 18s - 1988 190E - 62k miles - $8,500

2024-02-11 Thread Dwight Giles via Mercedes
Butt ugly

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Re: [MBZ] Benzing today— 92 400E is aliiiiive!

2024-02-11 Thread Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes
Yeah I should order an 8 too. 

--FT
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> On Feb 11, 2024, at 6:48 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Excellent!
> 
> Bummer about the 7mm vs. 8mm. I think I have both, as I’ve got a set of those 
> things. One of those, “Darn! I wish I had one of those!!” tools, for sure. 
> Bought them right after I got my first W140/M119.
> 
> -D
> 
>> On Feb 11, 2024, at 4:36 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> I think you told me that back when so I bought one of those spring drivers 
>> 7mm but the nuts on the big hose clamps are 8mm. I just used a wobble 
>> extension and a u-joint and oriented the clamp screws so I could put the 
>> socket on. That part was actually fairly easy once I got the whole thing 
>> oriented properly.
>> 
>> When I put the ETA in I hooked a piece of wire on the spring and had it 
>> tensioned so I could just slide it right on. That worked well. I had another 
>> wire on the throttle lever too and was able to get that on easily.
>> 
>> --FT
>> Sent from iFōn
>> 
 On Feb 11, 2024, at 6:26 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I just realized - the key to R on the M119 MAF is a new boot and a 1/4” 
>>> 7mm socket on a long extension with a wobble. Or, if you want the 
>>> purpose-built tool that makes it easy-peasy (to tighten the clamps, that 
>>> is) get one of the 7mm sockets on a long springy extension that can flex. 
>>> Those make it really easy.
>>> 
>>> For goodness' sake, whatever you do, don’t get the throttle spring unhooked 
>>> at the front on the intake manifold. I had to do that with a boroscope.
>>> 
>>> -D
>>> 
 On Feb 11, 2024, at 3:31 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
  wrote:
 
 I got the “new” ETA that was in the trunk of the car (eBay special from 
 the PO) on the car maybe 2-3 weeks ago. Today I got the MAF assembly on it 
 which had me cussing any German engineer who worked on the M119 design. 
 Anyway I got it on.
 
 Put a good battery in and after one sputter it fired right up!  Did not 
 want to idle well but after running a bit it was trying. Ran fairly well 
 at higher RPMs but would die falling back to idle. I adjusted the new 
 throttle cable a bit and found one vacuum line that had come off. Seemed 
 to run a little better but still died going yo idle. All the vac lines are 
 new and I think routed correctly but I’ll have to verify.
 
 Anyway it was a good step. ABS and ASR lights are on, I need to put the 
 computer on it and see what’s up.
 
 No gauges working so I’ll have to CHANGE THE FUSES to see if that helps.
 
 I should probably put in some new petrol too, no telling how old this 
 stuff is.
 
 --FT
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Re: [MBZ] OT: TVnality

2024-02-11 Thread Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes
I’ve got a couple “big” TVs in the FROG but shipping would probably be killer

--FT
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> On Feb 11, 2024, at 5:52 PM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes  
> wrote:
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> The cabin's CRT TV crapped out last month, and I had my son bring it
> home.  Zenith model B25A11Z.  He said the vertical deflection shrank
> down, and then there was a loud noise, black screen, and bad smell.  I
> don't want anything newer down there, as this one's nearly theft
> proof, so I'd like to fix it (myself) if possible.
> 
> I found a schematic of the TV, enough to look at, anyway.  There is a
> big power transistor in the horizontal drive, and in-circuit probing
> with the Fluke DMM shows a B-E short, which cannot be good.  2SD2499,
> which is a Horizontal Output Transistor.  (Which means a certain class
> of specs, along with an internal flyback diode and a biasing
> resistor.)  I can get 10 of them from China for about $5, so I ordered
> them.  Shipping to be slow...
> 
> I replaced the HOT, but that did not fix things.  I got the Variac
> hooked up, and brought in an oscilloscope and a DMM.  Running
> relatively low (25V) line voltage, for safety, showed that the 140V
> output of the SMPS was working, and the +5V logic supply was good.
> So, things are sort of working.  I could hear the speakers gently pop
> on and then off when the power button was pressed.  I could see the
> base drive of the HOT go on briefly when started, but after less than
> a second it shuts off again.
> 
> Probing around showed no voltage at all on the output windings of the
> flyback transformer, and only then did I notice the giant crack in its
> housing!  Burned, and split.  So, that's where the magic smoke had
> come from!  I had been looking for physical damage, I don't know how I
> missed that one.  The TV's CPU is looking for flyback output voltages
> at startup, and seeing none it shuts the horizontal drive down for
> safety, and to prevent further damage.
> 
> So, I need a new flyback, if I want to fix this thing.  95-4601-01.  I
> found one for sale online, at $50 plus shipping.  I think... not.  An
> alternate shown on the schematic is 95-4372-01; I found one of those
> and made a $5 (plus shipping) offer on it.  It might not even work,
> and I might not get it.  This is starting to look pretty unattractive.
> 
> Or... there was a $20 Panasonic TC-P50G15 (8/2009) plasma TV on
> Craigslist, with remote.  (But no stand.)  An infinitely better TV,
> and certainly cheap enough, but big, heavy, and much more attractive
> to thieves---who would probably not recognize its lack of commercial
> value from afar.  I bought it anyway.
> 
> Those Panny plasmas are _very_ nice TV's, we have three of them already.
> (The first one was $1100 new, almost the same model as the $20 one.)
> 
> -- Jim
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Re: [MBZ] OT: TVnality

2024-02-11 Thread Jim Cathey via Mercedes
I notice that the retro-gamers have some interest in CRT televisions,
but so far as I know a plasma TV is just as good as a CRT, so far
as that goes.  A lack of latency and motion artifacts is the goal.

In direct view video there is CRT, plasma, LCD, and OLED.  ALL
flat-panel TV's are either plasma, LCD, or OLED.  Plasma is now
gone, so they're either LCD or OLED.  No exceptions.  The usual
'LED' TV is just an LED-backlit LCD TV.

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] Benzing today— 92 400E is aliiiiive!

2024-02-11 Thread dan penoff.com via Mercedes
Excellent!

Bummer about the 7mm vs. 8mm. I think I have both, as I’ve got a set of those 
things. One of those, “Darn! I wish I had one of those!!” tools, for sure. 
Bought them right after I got my first W140/M119.

-D

> On Feb 11, 2024, at 4:36 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I think you told me that back when so I bought one of those spring drivers 
> 7mm but the nuts on the big hose clamps are 8mm. I just used a wobble 
> extension and a u-joint and oriented the clamp screws so I could put the 
> socket on. That part was actually fairly easy once I got the whole thing 
> oriented properly. 
> 
> When I put the ETA in I hooked a piece of wire on the spring and had it 
> tensioned so I could just slide it right on. That worked well. I had another 
> wire on the throttle lever too and was able to get that on easily. 
> 
> --FT
> Sent from iFōn
> 
>> On Feb 11, 2024, at 6:26 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> I just realized - the key to R on the M119 MAF is a new boot and a 1/4” 
>> 7mm socket on a long extension with a wobble. Or, if you want the 
>> purpose-built tool that makes it easy-peasy (to tighten the clamps, that is) 
>> get one of the 7mm sockets on a long springy extension that can flex. Those 
>> make it really easy.
>> 
>> For goodness' sake, whatever you do, don’t get the throttle spring unhooked 
>> at the front on the intake manifold. I had to do that with a boroscope.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>>> On Feb 11, 2024, at 3:31 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I got the “new” ETA that was in the trunk of the car (eBay special from the 
>>> PO) on the car maybe 2-3 weeks ago. Today I got the MAF assembly on it 
>>> which had me cussing any German engineer who worked on the M119 design. 
>>> Anyway I got it on.
>>> 
>>> Put a good battery in and after one sputter it fired right up!  Did not 
>>> want to idle well but after running a bit it was trying. Ran fairly well at 
>>> higher RPMs but would die falling back to idle. I adjusted the new throttle 
>>> cable a bit and found one vacuum line that had come off. Seemed to run a 
>>> little better but still died going yo idle. All the vac lines are new and I 
>>> think routed correctly but I’ll have to verify.
>>> 
>>> Anyway it was a good step. ABS and ASR lights are on, I need to put the 
>>> computer on it and see what’s up.
>>> 
>>> No gauges working so I’ll have to CHANGE THE FUSES to see if that helps.
>>> 
>>> I should probably put in some new petrol too, no telling how old this stuff 
>>> is.
>>> 
>>> --FT
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Re: [MBZ] OT: TVnality

2024-02-11 Thread dan penoff.com via Mercedes
I have what I believe is the 55” or 60” model of this in my garage in the FL 
house. I rarely use it, more because I rarely work in that garage. It’s a 
beautiful TV, built like the proverbial brick doghouse. Mine started ghosting 
ever so slightly some years back, and TV technology having moved on to LED, we 
bought something larger, newer and cheaper.

Love it! I don’t care about the ghosting for a garage TV, it’s barely 
perceptible as it is. I’m definitely moving it (and the associated HUGE 
articulated wall mount) to the AZ garage. That one has a 40” LCD Visio in it, I 
think.

Well done!

-D

> On Feb 11, 2024, at 3:51 PM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Or... there was a $20 Panasonic TC-P50G15 (8/2009) plasma TV on
> Craigslist, with remote.  (But no stand.)  An infinitely better TV,
> and certainly cheap enough, but big, heavy, and much more attractive
> to thieves---who would probably not recognize its lack of commercial
> value from afar.  I bought it anyway.
> 
> Those Panny plasmas are _very_ nice TV's, we have three of them already.
> (The first one was $1100 new, almost the same model as the $20 one.)
> 
> -- Jim
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Benzing today— 92 400E is aliiiiive!

2024-02-11 Thread Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes
I think you told me that back when so I bought one of those spring drivers 7mm 
but the nuts on the big hose clamps are 8mm. I just used a wobble extension and 
a u-joint and oriented the clamp screws so I could put the socket on. That part 
was actually fairly easy once I got the whole thing oriented properly. 

When I put the ETA in I hooked a piece of wire on the spring and had it 
tensioned so I could just slide it right on. That worked well. I had another 
wire on the throttle lever too and was able to get that on easily. 

--FT
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> On Feb 11, 2024, at 6:26 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I just realized - the key to R on the M119 MAF is a new boot and a 1/4” 
> 7mm socket on a long extension with a wobble. Or, if you want the 
> purpose-built tool that makes it easy-peasy (to tighten the clamps, that is) 
> get one of the 7mm sockets on a long springy extension that can flex. Those 
> make it really easy.
> 
> For goodness' sake, whatever you do, don’t get the throttle spring unhooked 
> at the front on the intake manifold. I had to do that with a boroscope.
> 
> -D
> 
>> On Feb 11, 2024, at 3:31 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> I got the “new” ETA that was in the trunk of the car (eBay special from the 
>> PO) on the car maybe 2-3 weeks ago. Today I got the MAF assembly on it which 
>> had me cussing any German engineer who worked on the M119 design. Anyway I 
>> got it on.
>> 
>> Put a good battery in and after one sputter it fired right up!  Did not want 
>> to idle well but after running a bit it was trying. Ran fairly well at 
>> higher RPMs but would die falling back to idle. I adjusted the new throttle 
>> cable a bit and found one vacuum line that had come off. Seemed to run a 
>> little better but still died going yo idle. All the vac lines are new and I 
>> think routed correctly but I’ll have to verify.
>> 
>> Anyway it was a good step. ABS and ASR lights are on, I need to put the 
>> computer on it and see what’s up.
>> 
>> No gauges working so I’ll have to CHANGE THE FUSES to see if that helps.
>> 
>> I should probably put in some new petrol too, no telling how old this stuff 
>> is.
>> 
>> --FT
>> Sent from iFōn
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Re: [MBZ] Benzing today— 92 400E is aliiiiive!

2024-02-11 Thread dan penoff.com via Mercedes
I just realized - the key to R on the M119 MAF is a new boot and a 1/4” 7mm 
socket on a long extension with a wobble. Or, if you want the purpose-built 
tool that makes it easy-peasy (to tighten the clamps, that is) get one of the 
7mm sockets on a long springy extension that can flex. Those make it really 
easy.

For goodness' sake, whatever you do, don’t get the throttle spring unhooked at 
the front on the intake manifold. I had to do that with a boroscope.

-D

> On Feb 11, 2024, at 3:31 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I got the “new” ETA that was in the trunk of the car (eBay special from the 
> PO) on the car maybe 2-3 weeks ago. Today I got the MAF assembly on it which 
> had me cussing any German engineer who worked on the M119 design. Anyway I 
> got it on. 
> 
> Put a good battery in and after one sputter it fired right up!  Did not want 
> to idle well but after running a bit it was trying. Ran fairly well at higher 
> RPMs but would die falling back to idle. I adjusted the new throttle cable a 
> bit and found one vacuum line that had come off. Seemed to run a little 
> better but still died going yo idle. All the vac lines are new and I think 
> routed correctly but I’ll have to verify. 
> 
> Anyway it was a good step. ABS and ASR lights are on, I need to put the 
> computer on it and see what’s up. 
> 
> No gauges working so I’ll have to CHANGE THE FUSES to see if that helps. 
> 
> I should probably put in some new petrol too, no telling how old this stuff 
> is. 
> 
> --FT
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Volvo fun

2024-02-11 Thread Allan Streib via Mercedes
2009 XC90. Bought it only because I knew the seller and he had cared for it 
meticulously. It needed rear wheel bearings, he didn't want to spend the money, 
and he gave me a good deal.

It's been a good car overall. Comfortable, well made, pretty easy to work on 
overall. It's a two wheel drive model, which in this car is front-wheel drive. 
The engine is a 3.2 liter inline 6, basically a Ford engine I think, Ford owned 
Volvo until 2010. Transmission is by Aisin. It tows our little pop-up camper 
fine.

It's probably comparable to an ML320, though I've never owned one of those.

Just under 200k on it now. I've owned it since 2018.

I was able to unclip the wiring harness in a few other places and raise it up 
enough so that I can work on it in a neutral standing position. That is going 
to help a lot. Now I can't find my solder, may have to buy some. Going to 
finish this up tomorrow.


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> I know you have referred to the Volvo previously, but I don't recall all 
> of it. What year, and model is it, what mileage on it, and has it been a 
> good car?
>
> Randy
>
>
> On 11/02/2024 3:57 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes wrote:
>> I found a wiring diagram, and I've been able to work out how to disassemble 
>> the connector plug. The individual connectors were crimped on to the wires. 
>> The crimp that was on the insulated part of the wire I can reopen, but the 
>> crimp that actually made the connection is too flattened. I'm thinking I can 
>> either try to solder the wires directly back on to the connectors, or solder 
>> on some pigtails, and then solder those to the original harness with 
>> heat-shrink tubing to seal the connections. Then reassemble the plug.
>>
>> This is not going to be fun, as I'll have to work bent over and reaching 
>> about halfway down in the space between the engine and radiator. Will need 
>> some way to hold things together while I solder -- alligator clips I suppose.
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Feb 11, 2024, at 15:23, Allan Streib via Mercedes wrote:
>>> Well I found the problem and it's the ham-fisted mechanic who was
>>> working on the car (that's me).
>>>
>>> The intake manifold runs down between the engine and the radiator and
>>> converges at the throttle body which is near the bottom of the
>>> radiator. Hard to see around it and hard to reach it from above or
>>> below. I overlooked a connector on the bottom of the throtle body
>>> housing and when I pulled the assembly up and out it just ripped the
>>> wires out.
>>>
>>> https://drive.google.com/file/d/1AT5c-txDnCydPNf94TJS4qT39LRtkrYW/view?usp=sharing
>>>
>>> Now I have to find a wiring diagram somewhere and figure out how to
>>> reconnect the plug.
>>>
>>> https://drive.google.com/file/d/1gMet72dITNAl66OVuceYOshLc3DMXobN/view?usp=sharing
>>>
>>>
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[MBZ] OT: TVnality

2024-02-11 Thread Jim Cathey via Mercedes
The cabin's CRT TV crapped out last month, and I had my son bring it
home.  Zenith model B25A11Z.  He said the vertical deflection shrank
down, and then there was a loud noise, black screen, and bad smell.  I
don't want anything newer down there, as this one's nearly theft
proof, so I'd like to fix it (myself) if possible.

I found a schematic of the TV, enough to look at, anyway.  There is a
big power transistor in the horizontal drive, and in-circuit probing
with the Fluke DMM shows a B-E short, which cannot be good.  2SD2499,
which is a Horizontal Output Transistor.  (Which means a certain class
of specs, along with an internal flyback diode and a biasing
resistor.)  I can get 10 of them from China for about $5, so I ordered
them.  Shipping to be slow...

I replaced the HOT, but that did not fix things.  I got the Variac
hooked up, and brought in an oscilloscope and a DMM.  Running
relatively low (25V) line voltage, for safety, showed that the 140V
output of the SMPS was working, and the +5V logic supply was good.
So, things are sort of working.  I could hear the speakers gently pop
on and then off when the power button was pressed.  I could see the
base drive of the HOT go on briefly when started, but after less than
a second it shuts off again.

Probing around showed no voltage at all on the output windings of the
flyback transformer, and only then did I notice the giant crack in its
housing!  Burned, and split.  So, that's where the magic smoke had
come from!  I had been looking for physical damage, I don't know how I
missed that one.  The TV's CPU is looking for flyback output voltages
at startup, and seeing none it shuts the horizontal drive down for
safety, and to prevent further damage.

So, I need a new flyback, if I want to fix this thing.  95-4601-01.  I
found one for sale online, at $50 plus shipping.  I think... not.  An
alternate shown on the schematic is 95-4372-01; I found one of those
and made a $5 (plus shipping) offer on it.  It might not even work,
and I might not get it.  This is starting to look pretty unattractive.

Or... there was a $20 Panasonic TC-P50G15 (8/2009) plasma TV on
Craigslist, with remote.  (But no stand.)  An infinitely better TV,
and certainly cheap enough, but big, heavy, and much more attractive
to thieves---who would probably not recognize its lack of commercial
value from afar.  I bought it anyway.

Those Panny plasmas are _very_ nice TV's, we have three of them already.
(The first one was $1100 new, almost the same model as the $20 one.)

-- Jim


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[MBZ] Benzing today— 92 400E is aliiiiive!

2024-02-11 Thread Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes
I got the “new” ETA that was in the trunk of the car (eBay special from the PO) 
on the car maybe 2-3 weeks ago. Today I got the MAF assembly on it which had me 
cussing any German engineer who worked on the M119 design. Anyway I got it on. 

Put a good battery in and after one sputter it fired right up!  Did not want to 
idle well but after running a bit it was trying. Ran fairly well at higher RPMs 
but would die falling back to idle. I adjusted the new throttle cable a bit and 
found one vacuum line that had come off. Seemed to run a little better but 
still died going yo idle. All the vac lines are new and I think routed 
correctly but I’ll have to verify. 

Anyway it was a good step. ABS and ASR lights are on, I need to put the 
computer on it and see what’s up. 

No gauges working so I’ll have to CHANGE THE FUSES to see if that helps. 

I should probably put in some new petrol too, no telling how old this stuff is. 
 
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Volvo fun

2024-02-11 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes
I know you have referred to the Volvo previously, but I don't recall all 
of it. What year, and model is it, what mileage on it, and has it been a 
good car?


Randy


On 11/02/2024 3:57 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes wrote:

I found a wiring diagram, and I've been able to work out how to disassemble the 
connector plug. The individual connectors were crimped on to the wires. The 
crimp that was on the insulated part of the wire I can reopen, but the crimp 
that actually made the connection is too flattened. I'm thinking I can either 
try to solder the wires directly back on to the connectors, or solder on some 
pigtails, and then solder those to the original harness with heat-shrink tubing 
to seal the connections. Then reassemble the plug.

This is not going to be fun, as I'll have to work bent over and reaching about 
halfway down in the space between the engine and radiator. Will need some way 
to hold things together while I solder -- alligator clips I suppose.


On Sun, Feb 11, 2024, at 15:23, Allan Streib via Mercedes wrote:

Well I found the problem and it's the ham-fisted mechanic who was
working on the car (that's me).

The intake manifold runs down between the engine and the radiator and
converges at the throttle body which is near the bottom of the
radiator. Hard to see around it and hard to reach it from above or
below. I overlooked a connector on the bottom of the throtle body
housing and when I pulled the assembly up and out it just ripped the
wires out.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1AT5c-txDnCydPNf94TJS4qT39LRtkrYW/view?usp=sharing

Now I have to find a wiring diagram somewhere and figure out how to
reconnect the plug.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1gMet72dITNAl66OVuceYOshLc3DMXobN/view?usp=sharing





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Re: [MBZ] OT: Volvo fun

2024-02-11 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes
When you are bent over working on this, just keep thinking about the 
hourly rate the shop would be charging you, probably including  to 
repair this, even if they, like you, had inadvertently created the problem.


Randy


On 11/02/2024 3:57 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes wrote:

I found a wiring diagram, and I've been able to work out how to disassemble the 
connector plug. The individual connectors were crimped on to the wires. The 
crimp that was on the insulated part of the wire I can reopen, but the crimp 
that actually made the connection is too flattened. I'm thinking I can either 
try to solder the wires directly back on to the connectors, or solder on some 
pigtails, and then solder those to the original harness with heat-shrink tubing 
to seal the connections. Then reassemble the plug.

This is not going to be fun, as I'll have to work bent over and reaching about 
halfway down in the space between the engine and radiator. Will need some way 
to hold things together while I solder -- alligator clips I suppose.


On Sun, Feb 11, 2024, at 15:23, Allan Streib via Mercedes wrote:

Well I found the problem and it's the ham-fisted mechanic who was
working on the car (that's me).

The intake manifold runs down between the engine and the radiator and
converges at the throttle body which is near the bottom of the
radiator. Hard to see around it and hard to reach it from above or
below. I overlooked a connector on the bottom of the throtle body
housing and when I pulled the assembly up and out it just ripped the
wires out.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1AT5c-txDnCydPNf94TJS4qT39LRtkrYW/view?usp=sharing

Now I have to find a wiring diagram somewhere and figure out how to
reconnect the plug.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1gMet72dITNAl66OVuceYOshLc3DMXobN/view?usp=sharing





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Re: [MBZ] OT: Volvo fun

2024-02-11 Thread Allan Streib via Mercedes
I found a wiring diagram, and I've been able to work out how to disassemble the 
connector plug. The individual connectors were crimped on to the wires. The 
crimp that was on the insulated part of the wire I can reopen, but the crimp 
that actually made the connection is too flattened. I'm thinking I can either 
try to solder the wires directly back on to the connectors, or solder on some 
pigtails, and then solder those to the original harness with heat-shrink tubing 
to seal the connections. Then reassemble the plug.

This is not going to be fun, as I'll have to work bent over and reaching about 
halfway down in the space between the engine and radiator. Will need some way 
to hold things together while I solder -- alligator clips I suppose.


On Sun, Feb 11, 2024, at 15:23, Allan Streib via Mercedes wrote:
> Well I found the problem and it's the ham-fisted mechanic who was 
> working on the car (that's me).
>
> The intake manifold runs down between the engine and the radiator and 
> converges at the throttle body which is near the bottom of the 
> radiator. Hard to see around it and hard to reach it from above or 
> below. I overlooked a connector on the bottom of the throtle body 
> housing and when I pulled the assembly up and out it just ripped the 
> wires out.
>
> https://drive.google.com/file/d/1AT5c-txDnCydPNf94TJS4qT39LRtkrYW/view?usp=sharing
>
> Now I have to find a wiring diagram somewhere and figure out how to 
> reconnect the plug.
>
> https://drive.google.com/file/d/1gMet72dITNAl66OVuceYOshLc3DMXobN/view?usp=sharing
>
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Re: [MBZ] It needs a new computer and that is all, 2005 Mercedes-Benz 320 diesel, $850

2024-02-11 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Sold to Someone.

On Sun, Feb 11, 2024, 11:49 AM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> but you could have it rebooted by anyone!
>
> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/356545630551396
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Volvo fun

2024-02-11 Thread Allan Streib via Mercedes
Well I found the problem and it's the ham-fisted mechanic who was working on 
the car (that's me).

The intake manifold runs down between the engine and the radiator and converges 
at the throttle body which is near the bottom of the radiator. Hard to see 
around it and hard to reach it from above or below. I overlooked a connector on 
the bottom of the throtle body housing and when I pulled the assembly up and 
out it just ripped the wires out.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1AT5c-txDnCydPNf94TJS4qT39LRtkrYW/view?usp=sharing

Now I have to find a wiring diagram somewhere and figure out how to reconnect 
the plug.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1gMet72dITNAl66OVuceYOshLc3DMXobN/view?usp=sharing


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Re: [MBZ] What a Maroon --Price is firm do not offer anything. 2007 Mercedes-Benz s-class S 550 Sedan 4D, $6, 500

2024-02-11 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
No negotiating, remember?

On Sun, Feb 11, 2024, 11:40 AM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Junkyard bumber, could be a reasonable deal
>
> Has rebuilt title from a blowout that broke the rear bumper.
>
> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/1593594271410598
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[MBZ] 2012 E350 - 76k miles - $12,800

2024-02-11 Thread Allan Streib via Mercedes
Pretty dark window tint, but it does make an otherwise boring car slightly more 
attractive IMO.

https://westky.craigslist.org/cto/d/murray-2012-mercedes-benz-class-76k-mi/7716625368.html
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[MBZ] Gold 18s - 1988 190E - 62k miles - $8,500

2024-02-11 Thread Allan Streib via Mercedes
https://chicago.craigslist.org/nwi/cto/d/hammond-mercedes-190/7716624364.html
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Re: [MBZ] convertavle top stand,$50

2024-02-11 Thread Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
I recently picked up perfect condition red hard top for my 73 that came with stand and cover for $300. I thought that was a hell of a deal. Sent from my iPhoneOn Feb 11, 2024, at 11:17 AM, Robert Rentfro via Mercedes  wrote:Boy, if I needed my contertavle top stowed, that’s a good deal. Do those have an MB part numbers? AZBob Sent from Mail for Windows From: Floyd Thursby via MercedesSent: Sunday, February 11, 2024 10:00 AMTo: Mercedes Discussion ListCc: Floyd ThursbySubject: [MBZ] convertavle top stand,$50 Held a hard top from a 1987 Mercedes sl560 https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/795107602192660 -- --FT___http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com  

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[MBZ] 1998 Mercedes-Benz E320 (***PRICE NEGOTIABLE***)

2024-02-11 Thread Robert Rentfro via Mercedes
https://phoenix.craigslist.org/cph/cto/d/phoenix-1998-mercedes-benz-e320-price/7716170605.htmlSent from Mail for Windows It’s not tan or silver or black or white, but it does have the AZ paint option. AZBob

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Re: [MBZ] convertavle top stand,$50

2024-02-11 Thread Robert Rentfro via Mercedes
Boy, if I needed my contertavle top stowed, that’s a good deal. Do those have an MB part numbers? AZBob Sent from Mail for Windows From: Floyd Thursby via MercedesSent: Sunday, February 11, 2024 10:00 AMTo: Mercedes Discussion ListCc: Floyd ThursbySubject: [MBZ] convertavle top stand,$50 Held a hard top from a 1987 Mercedes sl560 https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/795107602192660 -- --FT___http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com  

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[MBZ] convertavle top stand,$50

2024-02-11 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes

Held a hard top from a 1987 Mercedes sl560

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/795107602192660

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[MBZ] It needs a new computer and that is all, 2005 Mercedes-Benz 320 diesel, $850

2024-02-11 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes

but you could have it rebooted by anyone!

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/356545630551396

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[MBZ] WHYWHYWHYWHY -- 2006 Mercedes-Benz cls-class CLS 500 Coupe 4D, $5, 000

2024-02-11 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes

Buen carro anda duro

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[MBZ] What a Maroon --Price is firm do not offer anything. 2007 Mercedes-Benz s-class S 550 Sedan 4D, $6, 500

2024-02-11 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes

Junkyard bumber, could be a reasonable deal

Has rebuilt title from a blowout that broke the rear bumper.

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/1593594271410598

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