Re: [MBZ] Pretty 1989 Jaguar XJS on BAT

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https://youtu.be/5QbP5YwGsT4?si=atr_5ykLysWnaSAF
In case it doesn't jump to the right place you want to be at 15:31 when he 
removes the air cleaner.
Curt

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  On Thu, Jul 25, 2024 at 5:26 PM, Craig wrote:   On 
Thu, 25 Jul 2024 14:21:18 + (UTC) Curt Raymond via Mercedes
 wrote:

> IIRC '89 would already have the Terminator broccoli injection system.
> While not super efficient it was pretty reliable... Curt

"Terminator broccoli injection system"?!

What in the world is that?


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Re: [MBZ] Pretty 1989 Jaguar XJS on BAT

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IIRC '89 would already have the Terminator broccoli injection system. While not 
super efficient it was pretty reliable...
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  On Thu, Jul 25, 2024 at 8:12 AM, mitch--- via Mercedes 
wrote:   On 2024-07-24 19:59, Craig via Mercedes wrote:


> Well, I'm looking for something to put in my '89 Chevy van, which did
> come with V-8s from the factory.
> 

In 1989, it was a SBC, not even a LT-1.
For the last 25 years or so the new ones have been LS series, and a 
great improvement, with the exception of the cylinder deactivation 
models and bad valve trains.

But, if I had a 1989 Chevy, would I just throw a junkyard 350 in it, or 
would I computerize it and upgrade to an LS something with a modern 
transmission?
I'm thinking that even at 60% of the MPG the 350 is the economical 
choice.


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Re: [MBZ] Pretty 1989 Jaguar XJS on BAT

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Vice Grip garage hilariously dropped a Hemi 5.7l into a square body Chevy. 
Apparently there is a kit.

I think the Hemi 5.7 is a better engine than the 5.3 ls. It certainly makes 
more horse power and torque in stock form.

-Curt


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Good point, Mitch. It’s probably been that way for the last couple of decades, 
I’m thinking. I’ve heard the term “LS swap” a lot of times in the past, but 
since this is not something I would ever do, being a purist, I’ve never paid 
that much attention to it.

-D

> On Jul 24, 2024, at 2:52 PM, mitch--- via Mercedes  
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> 
> Holy cow, look at what a lowly Ace sells for.
> I'm thinking that if Carrol Shelby never stuck a Ford V8 in an Ace and called 
> it a Cobra, these things would not go for six digits.
> Same goes for Alpines. If not for the Tigers, Alpines would probably sell 
> like MGBs.
> https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1958-ac-ace-2/
> 
> And Craig, nobody puts a SBC in anything anymore.
> The phrase of the century is "LS Swap It"
> http://jaguarspecialties.com/XJ6C-P1.asp
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Re: [MBZ] 617 oil pan gasket

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I replaced the pan gasket on my 1952 Farmall Super M last summer. That uses a 
nice thick cork gasket which will take up a lot of slop but the pan had been 
bashed into something, or possibly several somethings, causing the mating 
surface to not be even close to flat.

I spent about an hour laying the pan on a (mostly) flat surface and 
prying/bashing on it to get it as flat as possible. Then I used a thin coating 
of RTV to glue the gasket to the pan. When that had mostly setup before I added 
another thin coat of RTV to the engine side of the gasket and hoisted it into 
position for the install.

The machine still marks its territory but where I had previously been adding 
about a quart of makeup oil every time I used the machine it now needs maybe a 
pint every other year.

I would expect a 617 pan to be able to tolerate some straightening...

-Curt



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 wrote: 





Pan was probably overtorqued and warped at some time in the past. RTV may be 
the only answer now or a new pan.


On Sun, Jul 21, 2024, at 17:05, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote:
> Well it can't really hurt to apply some RTV if it was done before.  Then 
> keep an eye on it and check for flat if you have to get a new gasket
>
> --FT
>
> On 7/21/24 4:51 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
>> Dropped the pan on the 617 doing the turbo oil drain. Whoever removed pan 
>> before used rtv on it. I had a new pan gasket in stock but thing might be 15 
>> years old. Torqued bolts to spec. Filled with oil, pan leaks badly. 
>> Tightened them down just a bit more and leaks slowed down but still leaks. 
>> Assuming the old gasket is too hard and old to seal. Or, perhaps someone 
>> tighten pan too much in the past and it’s no longer flat? Anyway, do y’all 
>> put a light coating of RTV on both sides of the gasket when installing? Or 
>> should they be dry? I read online folks recommend a light coating but 
>> thought I would get the consensus here for when I order a new gasket and 
>> pull the pan again.
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Re: [MBZ] 240D

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I've got class 8pm to 1am next week which I hate. I'll be tired but it will be 
hard to sleep at 1 and I probably won't be able to sleep much past 8. Gonna try 
to get a nap each afternoon...
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  On Fri, Jul 19, 2024 at 6:18 PM, Bob Rentfro via 
Mercedes wrote:   Last night I stayed up until almost 
midnight waiting to go fetch SIL from the ER after having heat stroke on his 
UPS route.  I was a yawning, tired mess, but he was in worse shape. He took 4 
bags of fluid and felt much better, I was still tired. 
And, I’m sure youz guyz can relate to this, even after hitting the hay at 0100 
I was still up, sans alarm, at 0515 like normal. 

AZBob

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> On Jul 19, 2024, at 2:32 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> On 19/07/2024 4:01 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes wrote:
>> Just had a conversation last night over beers about the laziness and 
>> apparent lack of motivation in today's young generations. Definitely an old 
>> man topic. LOL.
>> 
>> Allan
>> 
> I am more concerned about my own laziness and lack of motivation than I am in 
> that of the young folks. I find it difficult to motivate myself to do things 
> after our evening meal. I used to accomplish stuff after supper but not so 
> much any more.
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Re: [MBZ] CrowdStrike

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Oh yeah, Crowdstrike have just about admitted that they screwed up, they've 
already released a patch.

I just now realized that I have a bunch of actual systems in a lab that I need 
for next week's class which I can't access. There is one I NEED to the point 
where I cannot run class without it. I've actually got 2 because they're so 
critical. Guess which systems in my lab our IT group decided would REQUIRE 
Crowdstrike?

5 other systems I can reach are fine, the 2 I can't live without are not fine. 
They are physically attached to some hardware I need which is why there are 
only 2 of them.

Next week's class is 8pm-1am, I'm going to go up to the northern estate so I 
can day sleep without my wife being around. Guess I need to run to the office 
(90 minutes one way) before I go...

-Curt


On Friday, July 19, 2024 at 02:32:02 PM EDT, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
 wrote: 





That’s why I’m almost positive it’s something configuration related, rather 
than something to do with signatures or Bad Actor stuff.

Once I know more I’ll report back.

-D

> On Jul 19, 2024, at 11:27 AM, Curt Raymond  wrote:
> 
> Its also Windows only.
> 
> -Curt
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Friday, July 19, 2024 at 02:15:10 PM EDT, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
>  wrote: 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> I would add that because this appears to be linked to CrowdStrike and its 
> products, companies that don’t use it aren’t affected, which is why there is 
> a hodgepodge of companies that are and others that are not.
> 
> I definitely would not want to be one of CrowdStrike’s PR people right now - 
> or their CEO.
> 
> -D
> 
>> On Jul 19, 2024, at 10:43 AM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> All of our systems our dealers use have been done all day due to a 
>> CrowdStrike outage. The airlines were heavily affected. I’m flying as we 
>> speak just so far everything has been on time. 
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] CrowdStrike

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Its also Windows only.

-Curt




On Friday, July 19, 2024 at 02:15:10 PM EDT, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
 wrote: 





I would add that because this appears to be linked to CrowdStrike and its 
products, companies that don’t use it aren’t affected, which is why there is a 
hodgepodge of companies that are and others that are not.

I definitely would not want to be one of CrowdStrike’s PR people right now - or 
their CEO.

-D

> On Jul 19, 2024, at 10:43 AM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> All of our systems our dealers use have been done all day due to a 
> CrowdStrike outage. The airlines were heavily affected. I’m flying as we 
> speak just so far everything has been on time. 
> 
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Re: [MBZ] CrowdStrike

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I run 3 VM machines for every student for every class. This week there are 5 
students plus me, so 18 VMs. We're required to have Crowdstrike on everything 
bt I built the template that these VMs copy from all the way back in 2021 
using an old version of Crowdstrike which apparently can't update itself.

Guess whos VMs are up and working right now so students can take their exam? 
Laziness (and failure to update) for the win...
Yeah they're more likely to get compromised but they'll automatically be 
deleted at the end of the day today anyway.

-Curt


On Friday, July 19, 2024 at 02:10:35 PM EDT, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
 wrote: 





My former employer uses CrowdStrike. It’s a wonderful product and does a lot of 
really geat things from a security standpoint. That said, it’s also heavily 
embedded in the endpoints, so if something goes south, well, I guess today is a 
good example.

As I understand it, there was an update or patch that borked everything. It’s 
got to be fixed from the command line, meaning that you can't just push out a 
fix and hope it works.

Back in the day when I did desktop support we referred to this process as 
“sneakernet.” In otherwords, having to walk around and “touch” every last 
machine.

I’ve had a few exchanges with the Crowdstrike admin at my former place, and 
needless to say, he’s cancelled all of his weekend plans.

Wow, I do not miss this. At all.

-D

> On Jul 19, 2024, at 10:43 AM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> All of our systems our dealers use have been done all day due to a 
> CrowdStrike outage. The airlines were heavily affected. I’m flying as we 
> speak just so far everything has been on time. 
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Re: [MBZ] 240D

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Interesting color, not quite china blue. Could be a respray or it could be just 
the camera...

-Curt




On Friday, July 19, 2024 at 01:05:20 PM EDT, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes 
 wrote: 





I just randomly saw this:

https://offerup.co/ZmnJPlDBmLb

Have to go check that out I feel. Cannot believe the AC is cold.

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Re: [MBZ] '82 300D

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Agreed, it'd look 100% less like baby barf...

-Curt




On Friday, July 19, 2024 at 11:40:00 AM EDT, Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
 wrote: 





I would prefer white, grey or silver over the yellow.

Randy


On 18/07/2024 10:00 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:
> Well not great, the color is better than white, gray, or silver. Might be
> Maple yellow
>
> On Thu, Jul 18, 2024, 9:51 PM Dwight Giles  wrote:
>
>> good question. my 300CD which I am transferring to my nephew is China
>> Blue  I would like a darker color but not fixed on that
>>
>> On Thu, Jul 18, 2024, 9:06 PM Andrew Strasfogel 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> What is an acceptable color?
>>>
>>> On Thu, Jul 18, 2024 at 7:22 PM Curt Raymond 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Agreed. Beige...

 -Curt




 On Thursday, July 18, 2024 at 06:24:59 PM EDT, Dwight Giles via Mercedes
  wrote:





 not moved by the color...
 Dwight E. Giles Jr.
 Bissell Cove
 Wickford RI


 On Thu, Jul 18, 2024 at 5:04 PM Andrew Strasfogel >>> wrote:

> If there are no major issues you really can't go wrong.
>
> On Thu, Jul 18, 2024 at 4:50 PM Dwight Giles 
> wrote:
>
>> tempted
>>
>> On Thu, Jul 18, 2024, 4:41 PM Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Seems like the asking price is from a decade ago..
>>>
>>> On Thu, Jul 18, 2024 at 4:39 PM Bob Rentfro via Mercedes <
>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>>
 I feel like he's tried to sell this before:

 https://www.facebook.com/share/vbgCoUgWNp9VnSad/


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Re: [MBZ] '82 300D

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Agreed. Beige...

-Curt




On Thursday, July 18, 2024 at 06:24:59 PM EDT, Dwight Giles via Mercedes 
 wrote: 





not moved by the color...
Dwight E. Giles Jr.
Bissell Cove
Wickford RI


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> If there are no major issues you really can't go wrong.
>
> On Thu, Jul 18, 2024 at 4:50 PM Dwight Giles 
> wrote:
>
>> tempted
>>
>> On Thu, Jul 18, 2024, 4:41 PM Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Seems like the asking price is from a decade ago..
>>>
>>> On Thu, Jul 18, 2024 at 4:39 PM Bob Rentfro via Mercedes <
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>>>
>>> > I feel like he's tried to sell this before:
>>> >
>>> > https://www.facebook.com/share/vbgCoUgWNp9VnSad/
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Re: [MBZ] 1957 180

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Certainly not the steering wheel of an "Expertly restored" example...

-Curt




On Thursday, July 18, 2024 at 12:15:58 PM EDT, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes 
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I don't believe that is the interior of a $12K specimen.  Is that a legit color 
combo?

https://www.facebook.com/share/RgtgyWFr32RZwbjP/

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Re: [MBZ] 2022 Cadillac Escalade DIESEL

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This is the 3.0 liter v6 diesel, not a v8.

I haven't heard anything about the Duramax v6 good, bad or indifferent. I have 
heard bad things about the RAM v6 diesels eating themselves. There are theories 
that the DPF regens too often and causes issues.

One thing I don't like is that the timing belt is on the back of the engine 
under the bellhousing. So to replace the timing belt either the engine or the 
transmission/transfer case has to come out. The Duramax apologists tell you 
"Well, its only got to be done once every 120,000 miles" sure, great but its a 
major service for thousands of dollars

-Curt


On Wednesday, July 17, 2024 at 11:15:15 AM EDT, Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
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On 17/07/2024 9:48 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:
> wtf.
>
> https://bringatrailer.com/listing/2022-cadillac-escalade-5/
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Thinking about buying that, Andrew?

A friend has a Tahoe with the diesel. They have pulled a travel trailer 
all over the USA with it in the past couple of years.

Randy



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Re: [MBZ] An Odd Duck

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Beauty, you should buy that...

-Curt




On Wednesday, July 10, 2024 at 12:27:31 PM EDT, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes 
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Thans FBMP for making these old things randomly pop up on my feed.

This is interesting.

https://www.facebook.com/share/kHYSdB9BGZNSwk7g/

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Re: [MBZ] Limp Mode

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VW has this weird "shadow limp mode" where it goes into limp but doesn't 
trigger the check engine light.

Mostly on our (diesel) cars it happens when the fuel filter gets restrictive. I 
*think* I remember it happening once for the air filter but I'm not so sure...

Usually when it happens I can restart and have it run normally until the first 
time I give it the beans. At low power usage it's usually okay.

-Curt


On Tuesday, July 9, 2024 at 03:13:35 PM EDT, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes 
 wrote: 





And, of course, I decided to hop in the ML and drive it up to the Walgreens to 
see if the issue is still an issue and I suppose you all know exactly what 
happened…..
It drives perfectly normal now.

When the scanner arrives I will see what I’m working with. 

AZBob

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> On Jul 9, 2024, at 10:41 AM, Bob Rentfro  wrote:
> 
>  
>  I'm waiting on the scanner to arrive so I can validate the diagnosis before 
>I order parts. 
> 
>  
> 
> 
>  Or, order parts now and just do it because it will likely kack in the 
>future? 
> 
>  
> 
> 
>  AZBob 
> 
> 
>  
> From: Mercedes  on behalf of Buggered Benzmail 
> via Mercedes 
> Sent: Tuesday, July 9, 2024 4:55 AM
> To: Mercedes Discussion List 
> Cc: Buggered Benzmail 
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Limp Mode 
>  
> 
> 
>  
> Scan it and see if you have solenoid codes.  Any codes would suggest 
> inability for TCM to talk to the conductor plate (I’m assuming 163?). The TCM 
> is under the steering wheel a bit to the left, you can pop off the connector 
> and see if there is any fluid that has wicked up. If not check the connector 
> at the transmission for fluid inside it. If those are dry it’s likely CP time 
> which on a 722.6 is not expensive but a bit of a bother to swap (not as much 
> as 722.9). Figure $200-250 for new CP and fluid and filter (which you should 
> do anyway if it’s been awhile).  Plenty of utubers on how to do the job. 
> Valvoline Maxlife is a fluid you can use. 
> 
> —FT
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
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>> wrote:
>> 
>> After going to the Diamondbacks game to watch another crushing defeat, I 
>> got in the ML and started driving home and it wouldn’t shift out of what 
>> felt like second gear. I initially noticed it was very sluggish taking off 
>> (like it was taking off in second). I’m guessing that’s limp mode. No nasty 
>> lights on the dash.  
>> Drove home taking surface streets.  Ugh. 
>> 
>> Now what?
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Again, With the Torbo

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

I've ridden in the backseat of Dwight's 300CD to go get breakfast but thats 
about as far as I would want to go in it...

-Curt




On Monday, July 8, 2024 at 06:09:59 PM EDT, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
 wrote: 





As a former 1985 W123 coupe owner, I say this:

Pros: Bad*ss car when everything is tweaked. Probably the closest performance 
as a vergasser if you crank up the boost. Best drivetrain in all of the W123 
model line. W123, but smaller. The driving experience in general is similar to 
the sedan.

Cons: Don’t plan on driving anywhere with more than one other adult and maybe a 
couple of Thalidomide babies (nod to P.J. O’Rourke there, sorry, couldn’t 
resist.) This is what caused me to let mine go - I couldn’t haul either of my 
teenage boys in the back, as they could barely fit.

Some unique parts to these, specifically the quarter windows as previously 
mentioned. They don’t work worth a damn even when they’re intact, but g-d 
forbid you have to get parts for them or work on the regulators. Almost on the 
list with W108/W114 blower motors.

Solid example from the pictures, but not $17k or even $10k solid. If he paid 
$17k for that I would question his mental state. I could see maybe $7k-$8k if 
it checked out OK, but without a Dean treatment it’s nowhere near a $10k car.

-D

> On Jul 8, 2024, at 2:40 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> One big PIA with the 300CDs is the rear quarter windows getting knocked off
> the regulators.  Make sure they both work smoothly.
> 
> On Mon, Jul 8, 2024 at 5:32 PM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> $17k! That is pretty much insane.  One hopes it might be in absolute
>> perfect condition but I doubt it.  John might have decided to blow the
>> kids' inheritances on this car, bucket list thing or something or was in
>> some sort of state and not thinking clearly.  And was it sitting in the
>> back yard the whole time? That is no bueno.
>> 
>> --FT
>> 
>> On 7/8/24 5:10 PM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes wrote:
>>> Here is what the seller replied when I asked all the requisite questions:
>>> 
>>> “I have no information other than this. John, who died, bought the car
>>> for $17,000 just before he died. It was delivered to the house parked
>>> for at least 2 1/2 years but was started on occasion.  As far as I
>>> know, John never got to drive it.
>>> I have driven the car from the back yard to the front yard. “
>>> 
>>> Interesting….
>>> 
>>> AZBob
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On Jul 8, 2024, at 1:44 PM, Bob Rentfro  wrote:
 
 
 I can't shake this one from my brain. I  might go give it a look with
 money in my pocket but it's so hard to get motivated to do anything
 outdoors (114 at this present moment, on its way to 118).
 
 Someone said $5K would be reasonable? I'm not sure how quickly a
 vehicle unloads in an estate sale. What are coupe red flags?
 
 I also noticed, this second time looking at it, that there seems to
 be grease oozing from the driver's front hub. Big deal? Can't say
 I've ever seen that before.
 
 Never had a coupe. But I certainly don't want to latch on to
 something that is going to be more of a headache than having a 45
 year old car already is.
 
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Re: [MBZ] W211 PS fluid

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IIRC the rule of thumb is that if its got a serpentine belt it uses PS fluid, 
if its a v belt its ATF.

I put ATF into the PS pump on my '85 190D (serpentine belt) and it leaked it 
all out. Not sure if it was already leaking or the ATF ruined it...

 -Curt

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My '04 E500 is low on power steering fluid. Do these just use ATF or something 
more exotic?
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Re: [MBZ] Moose Day

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Between Dad and I we've shot 3. Dad's permit is probably the best zone 
possible. Dave's is a zone we don't hunt but he's going to hire a guide.
Curt

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  On Fri, Jul 5, 2024 at 6:12 PM, Andrew Strasfogel 
wrote:   WIth luck you may actually SEE one...

On Fri, Jul 5, 2024 at 5:51 PM Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
 wrote:

Speaking of mooses, dad got picked for a permit this year. His buddy Dave too. 
I'm the backup on dad's hunt, Dad is the second for Dave.
With luck we'll have plenty of moose steaks this fall 
Curt

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  On Fri, Jul 5, 2024 at 5:33 PM, Clay via Mercedes 
wrote:   Ungulates do not approve of bicycles

https://youtu.be/HiRU9FkORK8?si=MkZsA7ARGA3w-WI7 
<https://youtu.be/HiRU9FkORK8?si=MkZsA7ARGA3w-WI7>


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Re: [MBZ] Moose Day

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Speaking of mooses, dad got picked for a permit this year. His buddy Dave too. 
I'm the backup on dad's hunt, Dad is the second for Dave.
With luck we'll have plenty of moose steaks this fall 
Curt

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Re: [MBZ] DEF system eliminated - 2012 Sprinter 2500

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I haven't heard complaints about the DEF system on the Sprinters like I have on 
MB's passenger vehicles. Maybe the Freightliner influence made it better?

VW's DEF system seems pretty solid. At least I've never had an issue with it in 
my 2015 Jetta. That reminds me, I have no idea the last time I filled it...

-Curt


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Huge performance boost

--FT
Sent from iFōn

> On Jun 27, 2024, at 9:21 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
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> 
> I spend $12/year ($1/month) on DEF fluid for each of my 2014/15 Bluetecs.
> Why would I want to disable the system?
> 
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>> 
>> With the money saved on DEF he bought a pinhole camera to take the photos.
>> 
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Diesel Cadillacs

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I was under the impression that GM got it figured out by '82 or so but the 
damage was already done.

That said, even if they "figured it out" reliability wise they never did make 
as much power as they should have. If a 3l OM617 can make 120hp the 5.7l v8 
diesel ought to have made in the 150-160hp range, instead it was more like 
100...

-Curt


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 wrote: 





General Motors diesel cars ruined the diesel car market in America for a
very long time. They did not "get it right" and then did not support what
they built and sold.

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> My dad almost bought a ‘79 Eldorado Barritz Diesel but he decided on a’79
> Toronado diesel instead.  I thought that Eldorado was the living end for an
> American made car … as I was driving around my ‘72 220D invoking the ire of
> all the staunch UAW men in our little town.
>
> AZBob
>
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Re: [MBZ] MB heads, advise please

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When I was driving my '83 240D I was getting CarQuest 15w40 for like $4/gallon.
One time they had 3 gallon jugs that had leaked. They'd each lost maybe a pint. 
The guy knew me and let me have them for $1 each. It felt like Christmas.
Curt

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2010.
I put it in everything.

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Re: [MBZ] MB heads, advise please

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

Where do you get it?
The ad is funny in mentioning its good for high sulfur fuel. AFAIK that's super 
illegal in the US...

I like M1 TDT because its easily available. Which is what really annoys me 
about the 2015 Jetta which requires oil that meets VW's spec.

I think I've mentioned that I had been using LiquiMoly 4100 in Angie's Golf but 
the price has gone up 50% to nearly $50/gallon. Last oil change I switched to 
Rotella T6 because it was on sale at Tractor Supply for $25/gal. The VW 
community says it'll meet the standard for that car although its not listed. 
Lots of people using it over 100,000 miles.

-Curt


On Thursday, June 27, 2024 at 04:11:33 PM EDT, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
 wrote: 





I've been using this lately.

https://www.lucasoil.com/product/15w-40-magnum-high-tbn-ci-4-oil/

Modern diesel oils are for modern engines, not old sooty OM617s.

It's not great for cold starts, admittedly. But I don't like to drive my W116 
in the winter anyway, trying to keep the rust from progressing any more than it 
already has.

Allan


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> Back when I was an MB Diesel head, in all of our OM 61x and OM60x 
> engines I ran Mobil 1. Oil analysis at every change showed that we were 
> OK going 20,000 miles between changes. YMMV.
>
>
>
>
> On Thursday, June 27th, 2024 at 2:28 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
>
>> 
>> 
>> If you live somewhere that it gets cold at all and you want the dang thing 
>> to start when its cold out Mobil 1 Turbo Diesel truck, 5w40 is the way to 
>> go. With conventional 15w40 I never could get a W123 to start much below 
>> about 10F. With TDT I got my '83 240D to start at -10F which was important 
>> to me at the time.
>> 
>> A block heater removes that issue pretty much entirely as long as you can 
>> plug it in.
>> 
>> IIRC the limiting factor for oil change interval (OCI) on a 617 is the soot 
>> loading which (again) IIRC limited you to something like 5,000 miles. You'd 
>> want real oil analysis to know for sure.
>> 
>> The only conventional oil I stock anymore is 15w40 to put in my '52 Farmall 
>> Super M. It uses 2 gallons of the stuff and for the limited amount it runs 
>> every year conventional oil is just fine. Everything else from the 
>> lawnmowers to the pickup (diesel tractor, 2 diesel VWs, pressure washer, 
>> generator, etc) gets synthetic. The cars at 10,000 miles as spec'd by VW, 
>> the pickup is about the same based on the oil change indicator in the 
>> truck's computer.
>> 
>> -Curt
>> 
>> 
>> On Thursday, June 27, 2024 at 03:14:19 PM EDT, Troy Kocher via Mercedes 
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> I'm a lurker for many years. I've owned 5 W123's in the early 2000, and am
>> really in the mood for one again.
>> 
>> Back then we went back & forth on Mobil1 & conventional diesel oil. Could
>> you guys offer the most current wisdom.
>> 
>> I'm looking at a 1985 300d w/ 320kMi.
>> 
>> Thanks
>> Troy
>> 77 240d
>> 81 300d
>> 83 300cd
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Re: [MBZ] MB heads, advise please

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

I ran long OCIs on the OM601 cars I had but not on the 616, of course both that 
I had leaked/consumed oil so I never bothered with synthetic and analysis...

-Curt

 On Thursday, June 27, 2024 at 04:05:44 PM EDT, OK DonN via Mercedes 
 wrote: 

Back when I was an MB Diesel head, in all of our OM 61x and OM60x engines I ran 
Mobil 1. Oil analysis at every change showed that we were OK going 20,000 miles 
between changes. YMMV.




On Thursday, June 27th, 2024 at 2:28 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
 wrote:

> 
> 
> If you live somewhere that it gets cold at all and you want the dang thing to 
> start when its cold out Mobil 1 Turbo Diesel truck, 5w40 is the way to go. 
> With conventional 15w40 I never could get a W123 to start much below about 
> 10F. With TDT I got my '83 240D to start at -10F which was important to me at 
> the time.
> 
> A block heater removes that issue pretty much entirely as long as you can 
> plug it in.
> 
> IIRC the limiting factor for oil change interval (OCI) on a 617 is the soot 
> loading which (again) IIRC limited you to something like 5,000 miles. You'd 
> want real oil analysis to know for sure.
> 
> The only conventional oil I stock anymore is 15w40 to put in my '52 Farmall 
> Super M. It uses 2 gallons of the stuff and for the limited amount it runs 
> every year conventional oil is just fine. Everything else from the lawnmowers 
> to the pickup (diesel tractor, 2 diesel VWs, pressure washer, generator, etc) 
> gets synthetic. The cars at 10,000 miles as spec'd by VW, the pickup is about 
> the same based on the oil change indicator in the truck's computer.
> 
> -Curt
> 
> 
> On Thursday, June 27, 2024 at 03:14:19 PM EDT, Troy Kocher via Mercedes 
> mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> I'm a lurker for many years. I've owned 5 W123's in the early 2000, and am
> really in the mood for one again.
> 
> Back then we went back & forth on Mobil1 & conventional diesel oil. Could
> you guys offer the most current wisdom.
> 
> I'm looking at a 1985 300d w/ 320kMi.
> 
> Thanks
> Troy
> 77 240d
> 81 300d
> 83 300cd
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Re: [MBZ] MB heads, advise please

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

If you live somewhere that it gets cold at all and you want the dang thing to 
start when its cold out Mobil 1 Turbo Diesel truck, 5w40 is the way to go. With 
conventional 15w40 I never could get a W123 to start much below about 10F. With 
TDT I got my '83 240D to start at -10F which was important to me at the time.

A block heater removes that issue pretty much entirely as long as you can plug 
it in.

IIRC the limiting factor for oil change interval (OCI) on a 617 is the soot 
loading which (again) IIRC limited you to something like 5,000 miles. You'd 
want real oil analysis to know for sure.

The only conventional oil I stock anymore is 15w40 to put in my '52 Farmall 
Super M. It uses 2 gallons of the stuff and for the limited amount it runs 
every year conventional oil is just fine. Everything else from the lawnmowers 
to the pickup (diesel tractor, 2 diesel VWs, pressure washer, generator, etc) 
gets synthetic. The cars at 10,000 miles as spec'd by VW, the pickup is about 
the same based on the oil change indicator in the truck's computer.

-Curt


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 wrote: 





I'm a lurker for many years.  I've owned 5 W123's in the early 2000, and am
really in the mood for one again.

Back then we went back & forth on Mobil1 & conventional diesel oil.  Could
you guys offer the most current wisdom.

I'm looking at a 1985 300d w/ 320kMi.

Thanks
Troy
77 240d
81 300d
83 300cd
06 E320 CDI
06 S500
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Re: [MBZ] 300D 2.5 Turbo injector nailing?

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

I did the delivery valve seals on my '84 190D and IIRC the injection pump 
seemed louder after doing the job than before. Also as I remember (and it's 
been probably 10+ years) that noise declined over time.

I'd throw a bottle of motor oil or ATF into the fuel tank and run the car a 
little to see what happens. I wonder if maybe the leaking delivery valves get 
quieter because of some looseness and the tightening of them makes them louder.

Almost 20 years ago I paid a "trusted mechanic" to replace dv seals on my '85 
190D. At some point he shifted one of the valves which then caused the engine 
to try to run away. He had to bring in a specialist to get it right again. I 
ended up paying him something like $1000 on a like $200 job. That's why I did 
it myself on the '84 190D. Its not a hard job, but you need to go slow and keep 
your wits about you...

That was when I decided "Why pay somebody to screw up something I can screw up 
perfectly well myself?"

-Curt


On Wednesday, June 26, 2024 at 08:12:21 PM EDT, Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes 
 wrote: 





To keep things less confusing, I’m asking this question separately from the 
idling issue which Kaleb identified as the voltage overload relay. 

So I took my car to the shop three weeks ago in order to fix a broken lower 
ball joint- stupid Boston potholes. They ended up rebuilding the whole front 
suspension- replaced lower control arms, shocks etc. Car drives great now.
While it was there I asked them to replace the delivery valve seals and washers 
since I just don’t have time to do it. Now the car makes a nailing noise at 
idle. They say it could be the injectors. I’m wondering if they screwed up the 
delivery valve job. It is actually a very good shop so I don’t want to just 
jump to conclusions of incompetence because they really are a very competent 
and exceptional shop.

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Re: [MBZ] This is Sort of Cool

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

Same thing happens in the lantern community, some old guy dies and the old 
timers get all upset because his collection sells for "less than its worth." If 
it were worth more, it'd sell for more at auction. I feel like auction is the 
ultimate determiner of value.

Those same old guys will bemoan the loss of the old days when you could pick up 
some super rare item for peanuts...

-Curt


On Tuesday, June 25, 2024 at 12:27:53 AM EDT, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
 wrote: 





Youngest son has been a follower of railcar graffiti artists since he was 
little. Rather than engage in such behavior, he mentioned that he thought it 
would be cool to get some old O-gauge boxcars and try airbrushing them. MMM put 
me in touch with some of his railcar fans but nothing panned out - I do 
appreciate the effort, MMM!

A few weeks ago I noticed a listing for a Lionel collection on FBM. 
Interesting. I got distracted and moved on.

Last week I remembered it again and decided to reach out. I did, and “Randy” 
came up with four O-gauge boxcars for $50. I went over and picked them up on 
Friday. I didn’t see the “collection,” but his wife had been posting individual 
items that were pretty rare, like the “unloading boxcars” where the guy is 
tossing boxes onto a platform, stuff like that.

To my point, Randy was all torqued about how everyone wanted to cherry pick his 
collection and not buy it outright, or if they did, pay him $0.25 on the dollar 
for it. I told him it was like that with cars as well…I felt sorry for the guy, 
but the times they are a changin.

-D


> On Jun 24, 2024, at 6:30 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> Hoovie bought some old woody at auction and thought he got a good deal. 
> Looked pretty nice. He remarked that these cars appealed to old farts and now 
> that they’re dying off there isn’t a lot of appreciation for the old stuff 
> much anymore; hence, “low” prices on them. I bet the old guys still think the 
> cars are precious though but an auction will show what they are worth
> 
> --FT
> Sent from iFōn
> 
>> On Jun 24, 2024, at 4:28 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> How far from the Dan estate?
>> 
>>> On Mon, Jun 24, 2024 at 3:59 PM dan penoff.com via Mercedes <
>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> I love cars from the 1930s and early 1940s, they were so boat-like and
>>> cavernous inside.
>>> Just watched a Humphrey Bogart movie last night, “Conflict,” that had an
>>> absolutely beautiful 1941 Buick Limited Touring Sedan. I was in lust. The
>>> inside of this car must be the size of a small gymnasium.
>>> [i477026.jpg]
>>> I haven’t looked it up, but I’m wondering how long this thing was?? These
>>> things are frightening cheap as old cars. There was one in a Mecum auction
>>> in May that went for $15,000.
>>> 
>>> [322818.jpg]
>>> 1941 Buick Limited Series 90 Touring Sedan at Indy 2024 as L124 - Mecum
>>> Auctions
>>> mecum.com
>>> -D
>>> On Jun 24, 2024, at 12:42 PM, Curt Raymond  wrote:
>>> This era of car hasn't appreciated in the way I would expect it to. It
>>> seems like baby boomers are more interested in the cars of their childhood
>>> than that of their parent's era.
>>> Interestingly the cars of GenX (my generation) sucked (the malaise was
>>> strong) so we're into the cars of our parent's generation and even those
>>> from before.
>>> Is that a Maaco paint color? I don't like it, looks unnatural.
>>> -Curt
>>> On Monday, June 24, 2024 at 03:29:21 PM EDT, dan penoff.com via Mercedes <
>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> Too bad there aren’t any interior pictures.
>>> 
>>> [445766522_835270961929576_4064922336072185994_n.jpg]
>>> 1937 Oldsmobile 63987 actual miles Runs, drives, stops, Straight 8 motor<
>>> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/480393591339909/>
>>> facebook.com
>>> -D
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Re: [MBZ] This is Sort of Cool

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

This era of car hasn't appreciated in the way I would expect it to. It seems 
like baby boomers are more interested in the cars of their childhood than that 
of their parent's era.

Interestingly the cars of GenX (my generation) sucked (the malaise was strong) 
so we're into the cars of our parent's generation and even those from before.

Is that a Maaco paint color? I don't like it, looks unnatural.

-Curt


On Monday, June 24, 2024 at 03:29:21 PM EDT, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
 wrote: 





Too bad there aren’t any interior pictures.


[445766522_835270961929576_4064922336072185994_n.jpg]
1937 Oldsmobile 63987 actual miles Runs, drives, stops, Straight 8 
motor
facebook.com

-D

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Re: [MBZ] Somebody needs this

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

I was kinda sorta shopping those for use on the farm where a small dump truck 
might be useful.
For a user truck you can import one from Japan for half that much.

That said I discovered that you can't register a Kei truck for the road in 
Maine. I *might* be able to register it as an offroad vehicle which, around 
Caribou, allows for limited onroad use but in that $4,000 range I can buy an 
actual 1ton truck with a dump body pretty easily...

-Curt




On Monday, June 24, 2024 at 01:47:48 PM EDT, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
 wrote: 





Rich?
https://carsandbids.com/auctions/9XxV6ANz/1986-suzuki-carry-dump-truck-4x4
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Re: [MBZ] MB parts cyber attack

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

I notice the US govt is finally trying to crack down on Kaspersky which is 
clearly compromised because of meddling by the Russian government...


It's too bad, they used to make what seemed like a good product but, again due 
to meddling of their own government, they clearly can't be trusted...

-Curt


On Saturday, June 22, 2024 at 02:27:34 PM EDT, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
 wrote: 





Believe it or not, it’s nation states that are the best at this because they 
have unlimited resources. Think China, North Korea, Russia.

They’re not stupid, either, as part of their deal is marketing these product to 
third parties. “We developed this great piece of malware, want to buy the 
source code so you too can harass others and exploit their weaknesses?”

Very few bad actors develop their own stuff, they’re either buying the stuff to 
DIY or modifying code they’re finding in the wild.

-D

> On Jun 22, 2024, at 9:36 AM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> And I’m sure for each set of advancements made for protection the bad guys 
> make advancements on how to hack.
> 
> AZBob
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jun 22, 2024, at 8:37 AM, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>>> 
>>> No part of our policy for handling these scenarios involves paying
>>> ransom.  We have defenses, in depth.  I hope we never need 'em.  An
>>> attacked system will never be trusted until it has been erased and
>>> redeployed from scratch.  Offline, offsite backups are involved.
>>> There WILL be data loss, but at a manageable level.
>> 
>> It's pretty amazing to me that after years of seeing this happen to 
>> companies large and small, that any business doing anything online, to say 
>> nothing of a business whose primary product is online services, does not 
>> have a detailed, tested, and verified backup and recovery strategy, and a 
>> plan of response for incidents like this. But it keeps happening.
>> 
>> And maybe they do, and it's just taking a while. Standing up new systems and 
>> recovering data can take time. It takes a lot longer if you are doing it by 
>> the seat of your pants and not following a tested plan. It takes even longer 
>> than that if you discover that the nightly backups you thought you had 
>> haven't actually been working for the last six months.
>> 
>> Netflix tests their recovery processes by randomly introducing corruption 
>> and failures into their infrastructure and making sure that they can detect 
>> it and repair it. They don't trust a plan that's only been documented; they 
>> force themselves to prove that it works.
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Re: [MBZ] MB parts cyber attack

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

My favorite ransomware story comes from a customer who works for a big 
university. Apparently some student was looking at some website they shouldn't 
have been (IT screw up) while connected to our (broadcast IT, different group) 
storage system. The cool thing about our system is that our server never really 
sees your files as files. So the ransomware locks up all of the student's files 
"Pay us money or else". Fortunately the administrator of the system has been 
through class with me. Student has read/write access to his own data but only 
read access to anybody else's data. The administrator deletes the student 
workspace, and re-images the workstation. Problem solved, at least for the 
university.

Student complains "Where is my data? I'll sue."

"Oh, about that. We'd like to talk about the repercussions of your allowing 
ransomware inside of our system..."

-Curt




On Saturday, June 22, 2024 at 11:09:09 AM EDT, Jim Cathey via Mercedes 
 wrote: 





> And even if they pay the demand, there is no guarantee their data will be 
> recovered ...

The usual ransomware flow is that they break into your systems, and then encrypt
every file they can find.  Pay them and they'll give you the key...

That model works, sort of, for businesses about as sophisticated as a sports
card shop, where the trickiest thing there might be a large spreadsheet.
How well do you think an _active_ database tolerates finding its files
(slowly) being encrypted underneath it?  Know any larger businesses
that don't need a real database?

Take a carton of eggs, put it in a locking box, drag it behind your car a few 
miles.
The key... it's not really going to do you much good.

Put it another way, you're going to TRUST these people?  In their integrity
and their ability?  We don't.  No part of our policy for handling these 
scenarios
involves paying ransom.  We have defenses, in depth.  I hope we never need 'em.
An attacked system will never be trusted until it has been erased and redeployed
from scratch.  Offline, offsite backups are involved.  There WILL be data loss,
but at a manageable level.

Were I in charge of one of these companies, I might be tempted to offer the
ransom amount to the bounty hunter world instead.  "Will no one find me
this turbulent priest?"  Perhaps that might slow their roll.

-- Jim



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Re: [MBZ] He Has the Passport for this Car

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

Quite a fetching combination...

I don't consider the ask too bad considering its 51 years old. Price a 1973 VW 
Beetle or, more excitingly a 1973 VW Thing.


-Curt

On Thursday, June 20, 2024 at 01:14:51 PM EDT, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes 
 wrote: 





https://lasvegas.craigslist.org/cto/d/las-vegas-1973-mercedes-benz-220/7758564720.html

I'd look at this if I was in Vegas. I don't recall ever seeing a black one. 
This black surely isn't 040 is it?

The ask is mind numbing but these are becoming scarce, so I had best get used 
to it.

AZBob


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Re: [MBZ] Anyone remember these?

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

Originality I suppose. 

-Curt



On Monday, June 17, 2024 at 02:19:56 PM EDT, Craig via Mercedes 
 wrote: 





On Mon, 17 Jun 2024 18:03:06 + (UTC) Curt Raymond
 wrote:

> Yeah, the v4 engines were a big upgrade because they were 4 stroke...
> 
> -Curt

So, why in the world did the current seller take out the V4 engine and
put the 3-inline engine back in ???



Craig

> On Mon, 17 Jun 2024 17:57:53 + (UTC) Curt Raymond
>  wrote:
> 
> > 2 stroke engine, no oil injection, premix.
> > 
> > If you were coming down a hill in gear the engine would be above idle
> > but would only be getting an idle level of oil fed to it. No crankcase
> > oil...
> 
> OH! I had not thought of that.
> 
> No wonder they had a "coast at low throttle" option!
>
> Craig


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Re: [MBZ] Anyone remember these?

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

2 stroke engine, no oil injection, premix.

If you were coming down a hill in gear the engine would be above idle but would 
only be getting an idle level of oil fed to it. No crankcase oil...

-Curt


On Monday, June 17, 2024 at 01:52:32 PM EDT, Craig via Mercedes 
 wrote: 


On Mon, 17 Jun 2024 13:13:13 -0400 mitch--- via Mercedes
 wrote:

> ... but engine braking down a mountain with little to no fuel would
> result in damage from oil starvation.

That's weird. How would feeding it more throttle cause the oil to
circulate more?

Did they want you to coast down the mountain using only wheel brakes to
keep your speed low?


Craig


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Re: [MBZ] I filled up the CL600 at Costco today

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

That's about what we're paying. 
I got diesel for $3.59 yesterday which is the least I've paid in years.
The Golf turned in a disappointing 43 mpg over just under 1000 miles, but 400 
of that was at 85-90mph.
The eye-talian tune up did it's job though, car starts better and runs smoother 
with no visible smoke.
Curt

Yahoo Mail: Search, Organize, Conquer 
 
  On Fri, Jun 14, 2024 at 6:52 PM, Allan Streib via 
Mercedes wrote:   Regular $3.49 here today, has been 
climbing the past week.

On Fri, Jun 14, 2024, at 18:47, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote:
> $2.80 for reggalah and $3.40 for hi-test.  Prices dropped some from last 
> time I was there.  17.2mpg in the V12 beeste in mixed town/country driving.
>

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Re: [MBZ] MI MItch - is it "Bolt" or "Volt?"

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

Volt was a stupid name from the beginning. It caused confusion, people though 
it was an EV when it wasn't.

Bolt has been a disappointment because nobody knows what the heck it is. Again, 
stupid name.

I'd like to drive one though, sales were high enough that GM has canceled the 
canceling and say it'll be back for the 2025 MY...

-Curt


On Friday, June 14, 2024 at 09:06:37 AM EDT, mitch--- via Mercedes 
 wrote: 





First generation Volt, the original plug in hybrid.
1.4L iron block NA four cylinder plus 50 mile (when new) battery, in a 
beefed up first generation Cruze chassis with a hatchback body and, 
IIRC, standard leather interior.

There was a 2nd gen with the 2nd gen Cruze chassis and aluminum block 
GDI 1.4 engine.

And there is the Bolt, a tiny CUV with a BIG battery and no engine.
As soon as I heard the Bolt name, I thought that's stupidly confusing. 
In Japanese Katakana writing (Japan's way of writing western words), V 
and B are the same letter.


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Re: [MBZ] Super stock 240D on BAT

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I like the exterior color, not sure about the black interior.


Odd that with all those pictures there isn't any of the center console...


-Curt


On Thursday, June 13, 2024 at 10:10:31 PM EDT, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
 wrote: 





My kind of car.

On Thu, Jun 13, 2024, at 14:48, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:
> Totally unloaded with crank windows and power nothing.
>
> https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1980-mercedes-benz-240d-25/
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Stupid nickle and dime stuff

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That's what gave me the idea that the speedo is off, then yesterday driving RT 
1 other cars normally max out at 60mph but most of the time the cars I was 
following were doing 65 indicated in my car.

It occurs to me I should have paid more attention to the mile markers on the 
highway. If the mileage is reading high it should show up in the car thinking 
its traveled farther than it actually has. Probably wouldn't show up over 1 
mile but should over 10 or 100...

-Curt


On Monday, June 10, 2024 at 11:23:23 AM EDT, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
 wrote: 





I usually check mine against the roadside "Your Speed" signs that are often set 
up in construction zones. But I don't really know how accurate those are, and I 
could see the motivation for having them set a little high.

On Mon, Jun 10, 2024, at 10:08, Craig via Mercedes wrote:
> On Mon, 10 Jun 2024 08:59:35 + (UTC) Curt Raymond
>  wrote:
>
>> The '05 Golf ate the miles up yesterday, we did Peterborough, NH to
>> Waterville, ME in one 200+ mile run. I *think* the speedo reads 5mph
>> slow which might explain the 45mpg.
>
> I got into the habit of using a GPS receiver as a speedometer -- makes it
> easy to see the speedometer and odometer errors.
>

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Stupid nickle and dime stuff

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I'm going to try a GPS speedo via my phone on the way home. I *think* I can 
adjust the speedo within the VW software, need to try it when I get home.

-Curt

On Monday, June 10, 2024 at 10:09:41 AM EDT, Craig via Mercedes 
 wrote: 





On Mon, 10 Jun 2024 08:59:35 + (UTC) Curt Raymond
 wrote:

> The '05 Golf ate the miles up yesterday, we did Peterborough, NH to
> Waterville, ME in one 200+ mile run. I *think* the speedo reads 5mph
> slow which might explain the 45mpg.

I got into the habit of using a GPS receiver as a speedometer -- makes it
easy to see the speedometer and odometer errors.



Craig

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Stupid nickle and dime stuff

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I forgot to mention the positive effects of the long term high speed run. While 
I haven't started the car yet today (ie cold start) when I stopped for 
groceries I noticed a significant reduction in smoke at startup.
The PD engines in the second gen TDIs (first gen would be '97 through '03 VE 
engines, third gen is the common rail like my 2015) are notorious for a little 
puff of smoke on cold start. This car had gotten so it was making a little 
cloud of smoke on cold starts and sometimes smoking for a mile or three down 
the road. I *think* it had a dribbly injector (sounds like a personal problem, 
HA!) which I'm hoping has cleaned up after a good hard run. If not I'll feed it 
a little Diesel Kleen before the run home.

-Curt




On Monday, June 10, 2024 at 08:48:15 AM EDT, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes 
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Yes, the bladder was the limiter on my Jettas too. 

AZBob

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> On Jun 10, 2024, at 2:00 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> The '05 Golf ate the miles up yesterday, we did Peterborough, NH to 
> Waterville, ME in one 200+ mile run. I *think* the speedo reads 5mph slow 
> which might explain the 45mpg. Some of that is no doubt the around town 
> driving I'd been doing though.
> My bladder limited us to Houlton for our next top, only 170 miles, 
> disappointing ;) Most of that was at 85mph indicated.
> 7 hours flat from Peterborough  to Caribou, Google says 430 miles, they say 
> 6:30 but I think that'd be a tough number to hit...
> 
> I got diesel for $3.79 in Waterville. Didn't really need it but it was the 
> cheapest I'd seen to that point. On the way back I'll stop in Clinton, it was 
> $3.75 when I cruised through.
> 
> -Curt
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Saturday, June 8, 2024 at 10:35:40 PM EDT, Craig via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On Sun, 9 Jun 2024 01:24:09 + (UTC) Curt Raymond via Mercedes
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Tomorrow I'm going to take it to the great northern estate. The car
>> smokes more on startup than I'd like, a 450 mile highway run ought to
>> clean the cobwebs out of it.
> 
> Have a safe trip!
> 
> 
> Craig
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Fun times today with the S550

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Summerville has gotten gentrified, its where the hipsters have taken all the 
"r"s that the rest of the state has thrown away...

-Curt




On Monday, June 10, 2024 at 08:29:22 AM EDT, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
 wrote: 





Woostuh or Wustuh

Kwinzee

Ruhveeah (or, often, “Fukkinreveeah”)

Dawchestuh (or just “Dot”/“Dawt”)

Meffuh

Sumvull (or, more generally “Fukkinsumvull”), Gateway to Meffuh, home of the 
Bahneys 

Conkit (where Pawl Reveeah went)

Billricker

And on the weekends you go “Nowheah, just downnacape” or if you’re a swell, you 
can take ya cah on the steamuh ovuh ta Mahthuh’s Vinyuhd

—FT


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> On Jun 10, 2024, at 7:38 AM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Having spent a lot of time in Massachusetts, top of my list was always 
> “Wooster.” (Worcester for those not familiar with the local vernacular.)
> 
> -D
> 
> 
>> On Jun 10, 2024, at 4:50 AM, Curt Raymond  wrote:
>> 
>> Like when we went to the Coleman convention in Michigan, Char-lot...
>> 
>> People get funny about that. Of course in Maine we have Calais, not calay. 
>> For that matter Mass has Peabuhdee.
>> 
>> 
>> -Curt
>> 
>> 
>> On Sunday, June 9, 2024 at 12:59:56 PM EDT, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Exactly. First time I visited there (1980) I tried correcting someone when 
>> they said the name. I was promptly informed that this (“Yo-Semite”) was the 
>> correct pronunciation.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>> On Jun 9, 2024, at 6:14 AM, Curt Raymond  wrote:
>> 
>> Pronounced the way Apple did for their OS?
>> I joked it was yo-semite...
>> 
>> 
>> Curt
>> 
>> Yahoo Mail: Search, Organize, 
>> Conquer
>> 
>> On Sat, Jun 8, 2024 at 10:29 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes
>>  wrote:
>> Family reunion for Mrs. Dan. Liberty, “Yosemite” (pronounced phonetically, 
>> not like the national park) and Danville, KY. Great place, great people.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>> 
> On Jun 8, 2024, at 7:59 PM, Craig via Mercedes 
> mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:
> 
> On Sat, 8 Jun 2024 23:41:29 + "dan penoff.com via Mercedes"
> mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
 Strong work!
>>> 
>>> Yes, indeed!  🏋️‍♂️
>>> 
>>> I wish you success in completing the rest.
>>> 
>>> 
 -D from the depths of southern KY/Appalachia
>>> 
>>> What in the world are you doing there?!
>>> 
>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Fun times today with the S550

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Most people see Worcester and automatically add an h that isn't there...

-Curt




On Monday, June 10, 2024 at 07:38:12 AM EDT, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
 wrote: 





Having spent a lot of time in Massachusetts, top of my list was always 
“Wooster.” (Worcester for those not familiar with the local vernacular.)

-D


> On Jun 10, 2024, at 4:50 AM, Curt Raymond  wrote:
> 
> Like when we went to the Coleman convention in Michigan, Char-lot...
> 
> People get funny about that. Of course in Maine we have Calais, not calay. 
> For that matter Mass has Peabuhdee.
> 
> 
> -Curt
> 
> 
> On Sunday, June 9, 2024 at 12:59:56 PM EDT, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Exactly. First time I visited there (1980) I tried correcting someone when 
> they said the name. I was promptly informed that this (“Yo-Semite”) was the 
> correct pronunciation.
> 
> -D
> 
> On Jun 9, 2024, at 6:14 AM, Curt Raymond  wrote:
> 
> Pronounced the way Apple did for their OS?
> I joked it was yo-semite...
> 
> 
> Curt
> 
> Yahoo Mail: Search, Organize, 
> Conquer
> 
> On Sat, Jun 8, 2024 at 10:29 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes
>  wrote:
> Family reunion for Mrs. Dan. Liberty, “Yosemite” (pronounced phonetically, 
> not like the national park) and Danville, KY. Great place, great people.
> 
> -D
> 
> 
>>> On Jun 8, 2024, at 7:59 PM, Craig via Mercedes 
>>> mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> On Sat, 8 Jun 2024 23:41:29 + "dan penoff.com via Mercedes"
>>> mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>>> Strong work!
>> 
>> Yes, indeed!  🏋️‍♂️
>> 
>> I wish you success in completing the rest.
>> 
>> 
>>> -D from the depths of southern KY/Appalachia
>> 
>> What in the world are you doing there?!
>> 
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Stupid nickle and dime stuff

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

The '05 Golf ate the miles up yesterday, we did Peterborough, NH to Waterville, 
ME in one 200+ mile run. I *think* the speedo reads 5mph slow which might 
explain the 45mpg. Some of that is no doubt the around town driving I'd been 
doing though.
My bladder limited us to Houlton for our next top, only 170 miles, 
disappointing ;) Most of that was at 85mph indicated.
7 hours flat from Peterborough  to Caribou, Google says 430 miles, they say 
6:30 but I think that'd be a tough number to hit...

I got diesel for $3.79 in Waterville. Didn't really need it but it was the 
cheapest I'd seen to that point. On the way back I'll stop in Clinton, it was 
$3.75 when I cruised through.

-Curt




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 wrote: 





On Sun, 9 Jun 2024 01:24:09 + (UTC) Curt Raymond via Mercedes
 wrote:

> Tomorrow I'm going to take it to the great northern estate. The car
> smokes more on startup than I'd like, a 450 mile highway run ought to
> clean the cobwebs out of it.

Have a safe trip!


Craig


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Re: [MBZ] Fun times today with the S550

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Oh geez,

Years ago Angie and I went on a cruise where the main dining room was 
Versailles. We met a couple of former army officers who were trying to tell us 
that they had eaten there but clearly didn't know how to pronounce it. "Ver, 
ver, Versales." 

They'd also told us how they were staying in the president's suite and how 
they'd spent big money on it. So I somehow slipped into full sarcasm mode "You 
mean Versailles? Like the treaty that ended World War 1? It was in all the 
papers."

-Curt

On Sunday, June 9, 2024 at 01:56:22 PM EDT, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
 wrote: 





Like Versales

--FT

On 6/9/24 12:59 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:
> Exactly. First time I visited there (1980) I tried correcting someone when 
> they said the name. I was promptly informed that this (“Yo-Semite”) was the 
> correct pronunciation.
>
> -D
>
> On Jun 9, 2024, at 6:14 AM, Curt Raymond  wrote:
>
> Pronounced the way Apple did for their OS?
> I joked it was yo-semite...
>
>
> Curt
>
> Yahoo Mail: Search, Organize, 
> Conquer
>
> On Sat, Jun 8, 2024 at 10:29 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes
>   wrote:
> Family reunion for Mrs. Dan. Liberty, “Yosemite” (pronounced phonetically, 
> not like the national park) and Danville, KY. Great place, great people.
>
> -D
>
>
>> On Jun 8, 2024, at 7:59 PM, Craig via Mercedes 
>> mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:
>>
>> On Sat, 8 Jun 2024 23:41:29 + "dan penoff.com via Mercedes"
>> mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:
>>
>>> Strong work!
>> Yes, indeed!  🏋️‍♂️
>>
>> I wish you success in completing the rest.
>>
>>
>>> -D from the depths of southern KY/Appalachia
>> What in the world are you doing there?!
>>
>>
>> Craig
>>
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Re: [MBZ] Fun times today with the S550

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

Like when we went to the Coleman convention in Michigan, Char-lot...

People get funny about that. Of course in Maine we have Calais, not calay. For 
that matter Mass has Peabuhdee.


-Curt


On Sunday, June 9, 2024 at 12:59:56 PM EDT, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
 wrote: 





Exactly. First time I visited there (1980) I tried correcting someone when they 
said the name. I was promptly informed that this (“Yo-Semite”) was the correct 
pronunciation.

-D

On Jun 9, 2024, at 6:14 AM, Curt Raymond  wrote:

Pronounced the way Apple did for their OS?
I joked it was yo-semite...


Curt

Yahoo Mail: Search, Organize, 
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Family reunion for Mrs. Dan. Liberty, “Yosemite” (pronounced phonetically, not 
like the national park) and Danville, KY. Great place, great people.

-D


> On Jun 8, 2024, at 7:59 PM, Craig via Mercedes 
> mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:
>
> On Sat, 8 Jun 2024 23:41:29 + "dan penoff.com via Mercedes"
> mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:

>
>> Strong work!
>
> Yes, indeed!  🏋️‍♂️
>
> I wish you success in completing the rest.
>
>
>> -D from the depths of southern KY/Appalachia
>
> What in the world are you doing there?!
>
>
> Craig
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Re: [MBZ] Fun times today with the S550

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Pronounced the way Apple did for their OS?I joked it was yo-semite...

Curt

Yahoo Mail: Search, Organize, Conquer 
 
  On Sat, Jun 8, 2024 at 10:29 PM, dan penoff.com via 
Mercedes wrote:   Family reunion for Mrs. Dan. Liberty, 
“Yosemite” (pronounced phonetically, not like the national park) and Danville, 
KY. Great place, great people.

-D


> On Jun 8, 2024, at 7:59 PM, Craig via Mercedes  wrote:
> 
> On Sat, 8 Jun 2024 23:41:29 + "dan penoff.com via Mercedes"
>  wrote:
> 
>> Strong work!
> 
> Yes, indeed!  🏋️‍♂️
> 
> I wish you success in completing the rest.
> 
> 
>> -D from the depths of southern KY/Appalachia
> 
> What in the world are you doing there?!
> 
> 
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[MBZ] OT: Stupid nickle and dime stuff

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

Angie's '05 Golf has, I think, become my '05 Golf and she's taken over my '15 
Jetta.

Back about March the alternator quit, there are a stack of choices, I ended up 
going with a used one. It was slightly cheaper than a "new" made in China off 
brand or "rebuilt" Bosch. New Bosch is available but $450...

The ABS light has been on and off, I knew I'd whacked one of the rear sensors 
doing brakes. Fortunately replacements are cheap cheap. Unfortunately after 19 
years they have to come out in little pieces. VW uses an irritating array of 
torx and allen head fasteners. This one is allen head. I'd replaced the 
passenger side rear, the one I smacked, in April. I did the other one 
yesterday. Its a lot easier the second time. I even thought to use the dremel 
with a drum sander to clean the hole, its not ideal because its covered by the 
hub but not too bad.

It was also due for a timing belt back in April, 80,000 miles in almost 10 
years.

That got us past safety inspection today so I also changed the oil. I put in 
Rotella T6 5w40. I had been using Liquimoly 4100 but that stuff is running 
nearly $50 for 5 quarts. I got T6 on sale at Tractor Supply for $25/gal. It 
isn't registered for VW 505.01 that they specify but lots of people in the TDI 
community have been using it long term. Shell claims they just haven't bothered 
to submit it for VW's testing. We'll see, I'd hate to ruin the engine but, on 
the other hand, its almost 20 years old with 230,000 miles...

Tomorrow I'm going to take it to the great northern estate. The car smokes more 
on startup than I'd like, a 450 mile highway run ought to clean the cobwebs out 
of it.

-Curt

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Giant venomous flying spiders will not parachute into New Jersey this summer

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

Sounds overcooked. Wild goose is red meat and should be treated as such, never 
to be cooked beyond 150F, ideally 145...

I usually pound 'em out to get them more tender, lightly season with a rub like 
my favorite Dinosaur BBQ rub, then brown in a cast iron pan on the stove and 
into the oven for 4-6 minutes. We do a similar cooking style (without the 
pounding) for venison backstrap.

The legs and wings go into the slow cooker for a MINIMUM of 8 hours of 
braising. Comes out just like pulled pork.

Bird hearts are a treat not to be missed. I hate thinking about how many we 
threw away before I decided to try them. Sliced into about 1/4" thick rounds, 
fry in a hot cast iron pan with some BBQ rub, they're so good. I did one from a 
turkey a few months ago, so good.

-Curt


On Friday, June 7, 2024 at 10:41:21 AM EDT, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
 wrote: 





My former FIL would go hunt those things on the Eastern Shore every 
winter and bring a bunch of them home to cook later.  The MIL marinated 
them in red wine and herbs for a day or two then baked them in the 
oven.  They were always dry and tough and chewy and didn't have a good 
flavor to my tastes.  He gave us some at different times and I kinda 
learned to cook them, marinated the same way but then put them in the 
oven low and slow and they sorta tenderized to where they were 
tolerable, but the taste was still nothing particularly likeable.  I 
tried some on the smoke once for about 6-8hr and it was like a shoe sole.

--FT

On 6/7/24 10:13 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:
> If my hunting buddies can't figure out how to make Canada goose breast edible 
> (hint, don't overcook it) then it seems unlikely...
>
> -Curt
>
>
>
>
> On Friday, June 7, 2024 at 09:14:38 AM EDT, Andrew Strasfogel via 
> Mercedes  wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> Within 2 days someone will publish a recipe book for these critters.
>
> On Fri, Jun 7, 2024 at 1:44 AM Allan Streib via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
>> Good news, I guess.
>>
>>
>> https://www.inquirer.com/news/new-jersey/joro-spiders-new-jersey-pennsylvania-philadelphia.html
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Giant venomous flying spiders will not parachute into New Jersey this summer

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

If my hunting buddies can't figure out how to make Canada goose breast edible 
(hint, don't overcook it) then it seems unlikely...

-Curt




On Friday, June 7, 2024 at 09:14:38 AM EDT, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
 wrote: 





Within 2 days someone will publish a recipe book for these critters.

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> Good news, I guess.
>
>
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Re: [MBZ] [Okietalk] Fuel prices

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

I sure haven't seen that in a long time.

Interestingly around the great northern estate diesel has held steady around 
$3.99 from April into June. In in north central MA we're averaging more like 
$4.09 with a big spread from $3.99 to $4.49.

I may be headed back north this weekend, my class next week starts at 5am. I'm 
thinking to take my 2015 Jetta TDI with its 49mpg @ 95mph vs the 24mpg @ 70mph 
2018 RAM 1500.

-Curt


On Thursday, June 6, 2024 at 10:43:04 PM EDT, Craig via Mercedes 
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I was surprised recently to see diesel LESS than gasoline!


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Re: [MBZ] OT I'm pretty sure I should if I knew where Saskatoon was

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

2023 Coleman Convention was there...

No, I didn't go.

-Curt


On Tuesday, June 4, 2024 at 01:06:40 PM EDT, mitch--- via Mercedes 
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On 2024-06-04 10:55, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:
> You don’t want to know where Saskatoon is, believe me.

A small town where nothing much happens, called Saskatoon.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jFEIVkSHaJU


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Re: [MBZ] O.T. Small Air Compressors

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

I've got a 20something gallon HF compressor, had it 5 or 6 years now. Super 
handy but also super loud. Not a problem in my situation but I see now they've 
got much quieter options. Mine might go live on the great northern estate and 
get a quiet one for here.
The only complaint I have is that it's hard to start in the cold. It doesn't 
have a proper unload valve to isolate the compressor from the tank at startup. 
A relatively minor complaint though.
Curt

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  On Sat, Jun 1, 2024 at 1:13 PM, Bob Rentfro via 
Mercedes wrote:   This Fortress brand HF sells…anyone 
have one? Specifically, I’m looking at a 6 gallon ultra quiet pancake one to 
use for airing bicycle tires, hand truck tires, blowing schmutz off of stuff 
(again, specifically, I’m going to be servicing the 30 Concept 2 rowers at our 
CrossFit gym).  The other one that caught my eye is a comparable Husky 
compressor sold at Home Despot. 
Do we know if one is any better than the other? 

AZBob

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Re: [MBZ] OT: friends of Dan's?

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

If you're pulling weapons on kids that are fishing you're doing it wrong, 
trespassing or no...
Curt

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  On Wed, May 29, 2024 at 3:50 PM, dan penoff.com via 
Mercedes wrote:   A few observations here:

1.) “Detention” ponds, as our former developer called them (and I regualrly 
mocked them over this, too) are private property in subdivisions, and you 
almost always see signs stating no trespassing/fishing, etc. It’s not about 
being a d*ck with these, they almost always contain some less than pleasant 
residents, like alligators, which will gladly come out and consider you for 
their next meal. Really. So as a lawyer, Randy can appreciate the risk exposure 
in a situation like this.

2.) As with those old dudes that yell at the kids when they walk on their lawn, 
often times gaining access to these water features involves walking through or 
across someone’s yard. Say what you want, but it’s trespassing. We had an issue 
with this in a former home where we backed onto a wooded area with a detention 
pond in it that was popular with the local kids, and we had no fence in the 
backyard like our neighbors, so the neighborhood kids would cut through our 
yard to get to it. That wasn’t a problem for us, but when people from outside 
the neighbohood started showing up, parking on the street, leaving trash and 
making a lot of noise with boom boxes and such, we put a stop to it. Not sure 
what drove the sudden interest in the place by outsiders, but we didn’t mind 
the neighborhood kids walking through as they were respectful and didn’t make 
messes or noise.

3.) The first incident the writer references would be typical in our former 
neighborhood. Someone would go out and let the people know it wasn’t cool to do 
this, and they would leave. No biggie.

4.) The second incident, with the guy wielding the knife, is a random psycho 
event and not unusual for Florida as there seems to be a lot of bizarre folks 
in Florida, especially in more rural areas (which this used to be.) Starkey 
Ranch is a HUGE area that’s literally thousands of acres of single family home 
development, so statistically speaking, there’s bound to be some off-kilter 
folks there.

With the recent changes in concealed carry laws in Floriduh I would be more 
concerned about someone who is carrying. I can outrun a guy with a knife.

-D


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[MBZ] OT: friends of Dan's?

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

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Re: [MBZ] OT - Ultrasonic Cleaners

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

I've got a cheap one from Amazon, 1l I think. It's terrible, does basically 
nothing.
A buddy has a 1gal unit that came out of a lab at UConn. His is amazing, you 
can watch brass come clean. The water turns gross fast.
I'm on the lookout for a "real" one...
Curt
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  On Tue, May 28, 2024 at 8:24 PM, dan penoff.com via 
Mercedes wrote:   Looking at these for general small 
parts cleaning and such. I see a lot of “imported” models on Amazon, of course, 
but how to tell the difference or what’s better/worse?

3 liters is the right size for me, I have determined, so I’m working with that 
as a point of reference.

Anyone use/own one of these, and if so, your recommendations?

TIA,

-D
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Re: [MBZ] OT. 1982 Apple IIe - everything included! $200

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

That's a good price considering it's got the monitor.
Funny that 25 years ago they had basically no value.
Curt

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  On Sat, May 25, 2024 at 7:26 PM, Rich Thomas via 
Mercedes wrote:   This is probably worth getting?

https://www.facebook.com/share/uGPmnaj3ApC8ErYS/?mibextid=79PoIi
--R
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Re: [MBZ] Ot Interesting automotive news

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

I wouldn't own a Jeep but I've been quite happy with 3 different Dodge pickup 
trucks over the last 25 years.
The current 2018 RAM 1500 V6 is surprisingly good. 300hp is quite sprightly in 
a truck capable of 24mpg highway.
Curt

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  On Fri, May 24, 2024 at 6:29 PM, Allan Streib via 
Mercedes wrote:   Chrysler, Dodge, and Jeep have been 
passed around so much over the past 20 years I would not consider owning one.

On Fri, May 24, 2024, at 18:24, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes wrote:
> Stellantis agreed to cut prices and launched an unusual incentive program 
> after hearing gripes from dealers.
> 
> This spring, a group of Jeep and Ram brand dealers told executives that their 
> parent company’s resistance to lower prices was to blame for unsold cars and 
> trucks piling up on their lots, people familiar with the meeting said. The 
> automaker has cut some prices 
> since the dealer 
> meeting and took the unusual step of paying dealers bonuses to accept cars 
> from the factory. Stellantis’s U.S. sales hovered below 9% of the market in 
> the first quarter, and fell to 7.7% in April. That was down from around 10% 
> last year and 12.5% in 2020, according to research firm Motor Intelligence—a 
> massive decline in an industry where a half-point drop is enough to rattle 
> car executives.
> 
> --FT
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Re: [MBZ] The Miracle of AI

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

We've got a policy and some kind of closed ai system. I didn't look too close 
as I don't want or need any air in my job.
Curt

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  On Fri, May 24, 2024 at 6:13 PM, dan penoff.com via 
Mercedes wrote:   Allan,

Has your employer issued guidelines, or denied the ability to use AI? This is a 
good question for everyone who is currently employed.

We researched this heavily last year in order to draft a policy for AI. 
Essentially, unless it’s a sanctioned “closed” AI system like Microsoft’s, you 
can’t use it. Not only that, the example about the pizza is a excellent way to 
show how “bad” AI can be sometimes. Also, think about this: If you’re using AI 
with your employer, and you put somehting in that 
protected/proprietary/private, it’s going to be there for anyone else to tease 
it out, or just find it organically while they’re using the AI system.

Nope. Just like DNA testing. Once they got it, you can’t take it back, and you 
can’t prevent it from being shared.

-D



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> I haven't quite figured out what the point of AI is. It's "trained" on 
> essentially the content of the web, so it's trained on mostly garbage. Even 
> if it's able to regurgitate some good information, what's the advantage of 
> that when you could just consult the original authoritative sources directly?
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Re: [MBZ] The Miracle of AI

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

I listened to a podcast that suggested that when asked for a random number AI 
will disproportionately answer 7 because humans will disproportionately answer 
7.Apparently humans build our own cognitive bias into things. Big surprise...
Curt

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  On Fri, May 24, 2024 at 5:44 PM, Allan Streib via 
Mercedes wrote:   I haven't quite figured out what the 
point of AI is. It's "trained" on essentially the content of the web, so it's 
trained on mostly garbage. Even if it's able to regurgitate some good 
information, what's the advantage of that when you could just consult the 
original authoritative sources directly?

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Re: [MBZ] I bought an EV

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

I'm sorta half shopping for another old Snapper rider mower to convert to 
electric. I want to do a 2 motor swap, one for propulsion, the other for 
cutting. Use 2x (maybe 4x) 18v Makita tool batteries to power it.
For the average homeowner electric is a better choice than grass, especially on 
a 1/4 acre or smaller lot.
Curt

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  On Mon, May 20, 2024 at 11:28 PM, RICK HAWKINS via 
Mercedes wrote:   So, folks,

I drove over to Bluffton SC and bought an EV and carried it back to tybee on my 
rollback.

Actually it’s a Ryobi zero turn 30 inch cut LiH battery powered lawnmower.

It is pretty odd … it runs and steers with a right hand joystick and the only 
conventional control is a foot brake.

I’ll take it off the truck tomorrow …. I think they cost $3k and this one is 
like new with tags … guy said he to it discounted from Home Depot .  I paid $2k 
and figure if it sucks I can probably sell it on.

Mercedes content … I’d have moved it in the sprinter but I have a press in it . 
I drove up to Oakton VA last week and moved a couple of presses for a bunch of 
$$. I have to take them to Summerville, sc but I’ll do it next week. The rusty 
sprinter with 390,xxx miles performed flawlessly and I think I got about 20 mpg 
dragging a trailer all the way and with 2500 lbs of presses coming home .

Xx rick

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Re: [MBZ] Great, All Original

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

Safety too I think. Its difficult to make glass structural.

-Curt




On Thursday, May 16, 2024 at 12:37:13 PM EDT, Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
 wrote: 





On 15/05/2024 8:12 PM, Craig via Mercedes wrote:
> On Wed, 15 May 2024 15:13:21 -0400 Allan Streib via Mercedes
>   wrote:
>
>> Yeah roughly the same size as a W123, nearly identical in length and
>> width but the W110 had a shorter wheelbase compared to a W123 Saloon.
>> The W110 roof was a bit higher and more rounded I think, resulting in
>> more interior headroom. Great visibility too.
> It seems amazing car design has progressed over the years to reduce
> visibility!
>
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Aerodynamics, in an effort to make the vehicle quieter and more fuel 
efficient, I would assume.

Randy


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Re: [MBZ] Nice -- 1967 Mercedes-Benz 250s,$9,000

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

The YouTube tuner community is heavily into the Holley Sniper setups. Not cheap 
but reports are that driveability is high...

-Curt




On Wednesday, May 15, 2024 at 10:36:04 PM EDT, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
 wrote: 





Yeah that’s basically like a TBI I guess, if it can be tuned to work well 
should be reliable and maybe a bit more power

--FT
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> On May 15, 2024, at 8:38 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> That’s actually pretty cool, even if it’s not stock. It’s a nice looking 
> example and still not that bad under the hood. I had a buddy with an old 70s 
> Ford that put a Holley FI system on it, and it worked quite well. I’ve 
> wondered if there would ever be a viable option for a car like this. It would 
> make it so much more efficient and reliable.
> 
> -D
> 
>> On May 15, 2024, at 3:35 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Some interesting mods
>> 
>> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/432567099377658
>> 
>> --
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Re: [MBZ] Great, All Original

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

I don't have a handle on how big those cars are. Are they about the same size 
as a 123?

I feel like the 1.9l VW TDI is an excellent modern diesel to transplant. Its 
smaller, lighter, and with minor mods more powerful than a stock 617 turbo.

They also start a heck of a lot better when cold...

-Curt


On Tuesday, May 14, 2024 at 02:26:54 PM EDT, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
 wrote: 





I would keep it simple, no electronics or emissions, maybe drop a 617 in it, 
there should be room; they had straight-six engines in W110s.

If the floor and rockers aren't rotted out yeah it could be something to just 
have fun with. 


On Tue, May 14, 2024, at 12:59, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes wrote:
> Good rat rod bones. Upgrade with modern diesel drivetrain and have fun
>
> --FT
> Sent from iFōn
>
>> On May 14, 2024, at 12:48 PM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> That guy has been trying to sell that for years. Initially, I think he was 
>> asking around $5K.
>> 
>> AZBob
>> 
>> From: Mercedes  on behalf of dan penoff.com 
>> via Mercedes 
>> Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2024 9:32 AM
>> To: mercedes@okiebenz.com 
>> Cc: dan penoff.com 
>> Subject: [MBZ] Great, All Original
>> 
>> No doubt about that…
>> 
>> 
>> [438024078_451368763945443_7808100615519965404_n.jpeg]
>> 1962 190 d 
>> Mercedes
>> facebook.com
>> 
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] W116 300SD with rare Inca Red paint

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The color is gross. I don't dislike that radio...

-Curt




On Friday, May 10, 2024 at 11:44:58 AM EDT, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
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Very attractive and original, save for the aftermarket radio in the dash...

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1980-mercedes-benz-300sd-38/
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Re: [MBZ] Electric Vehicles

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

You don't lose it, you're just not using it right now. You can charge to 100% 
whenever you want.
Lets be honest though, everybody knows the stated range is a lie. Just like 
stated horsepower on gas engines is a lie...

The same is true for your phone BTW. If you charge your phone to 100% every 
night the battery won't last as long. My current Motorola will generally go 2 
days on one charge and I let it do so. If it runs short during the day I charge 
it however much I have time for right this moment.

Time will tell if it helps or not...

-Curt


On Wednesday, May 8, 2024 at 08:12:26 PM EDT, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
 wrote: 





Hoovie just posted a vid on his Cybertruck and had the Weezurd do an inspection 
on it. 

He also mentioned that in daily use it only charges to 80% to preserve the 
battery. If you want to go on a trip you can charge it to 100%. WTF?  So right 
off the bat you’re losing 20% of your states range. 

--FT
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Re: [MBZ] Electric Vehicles

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

That was 3 years ago...

-Curt




On Wednesday, May 8, 2024 at 05:17:52 PM EDT, Allan Streib 
 wrote: 





You may want to think again on the Bolt, or be sure you have good fire 
insurance.

https://www.nhtsa.gov/press-releases/recall-all-chevy-bolt-vehicles-fire-risk


On Wed, May 8, 2024, at 16:09, Curt Raymond wrote:
> I had to look up the Bolt, interestingly it was to be discontinued at 
> the end of 2023 and then strangely met its sales goals so they've 
> un-discontinued it and claim it'll keep going into 2025 at least.
>
> If I were going to get an EV its the one I'd look for, starting price 
> $27k, listed range 259 miles which we can assume is more like 250. This 
> is not an "around the town car" like people seem to assume. Its small, 
> sure but that's what I want in a commuter car. People bitch about 
> putting in a charging port but ignore what it would cost to install a 
> gas station...
>
>
> GM screwed the pooch naming the hybrid the "Volt" and saving "Bolt" for 
> the EV. I hope whoever made that decision got sacked, they truely are 
> an idiot.
>
> -Curt

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Re: [MBZ] Electric Vehicles

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

FBMP has several new-ish Chevy Bolts for under $20k, the depreciation on them 
seems pretty brutal, theres a 2019 for $13k. Down more than half in 5 years.

I haven't driven one yet, ought to.

I suspect GM discontinuing them was hard on the value, I bet a lot of people 
saw them getting discontinued and don't realize that isn't true anymore...

-Curt




On Wednesday, May 8, 2024 at 04:32:40 PM EDT, Jim Cathey via Mercedes 
 wrote: 





> All of us have multiple cars, it'd be just a matter of choosing the other one 
> on a day when the electric car doesn't meet your needs.

Exactly.  I have nothing against electric cars.  I am hugely opposed to the fad,
and the ill-considered legislative me-too that's going on.

Something like a used Tesla would work very well as a member of our household,
except that they're outrageously priced.  I hate video games with wheels, and my
wife hates parking outdoors, but somehow I suspect we'd both manage to adapt.
Reality will not be denied.

Ideal one would be older, with the 'lifetime' free charging.  And we'd have to 
arrange
to mostly _not_ charge at home in order to take advantage of it, cheapskate 
that I am.

Not that we're looking.

-- Jim



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Re: [MBZ] Need a key everything works good , As is car 1998 Mercedes-Benz sl-class SL 500 Roadster 2D, $4, 500

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

Is there no tuner community for MB?

In the VW world I can contact Malone and have the "tune out" the immobilizer 
for my car if I so desire. This is done mostly to allow transplanting the 
engine into a non-VW chassis like putting a TDI in a Jeep, but AFAIK can be 
done for any VW.
I can also buy aftermarket keys for VWs, for most years anyway, that can pretty 
easily be coded to my car with a cheap USB cable.

I'm surprised how little aftermarket support there is for MB.

-Curt


On Wednesday, May 8, 2024 at 12:54:23 PM EDT, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
 wrote: 





MB (or DBAG) needs to make the tech open source ad let the matrix build new 
analogs. It’s basically some kind of RFID or coded RF signal. I’m not sure the 
129 key itself is actually  coded but obviously the fob has something in it. 

My buddy had some little box that could read the RF signal from a later Benz 
fob and duplicate it in another fob “blank” you can buy on Amazon or wherever 
but the issue seems to be the tech in these particular fobs although I’m not 
sure. Cars with the earlier EIS needed that unit to make a duplicate but I 
think later cars like the keyless go versions are just a RF code that can be 
copied and written. He said he could make them for me if I got the virgin 
blanks. Once flashed the fob can’t be reused. He made me a new key for the 
R500, those blanks are like $10. I found the keyless go blank for $40 or $50 
from some vendor, he said they were on eBay and Amazon too but I searched and 
it wasn’t clear what was what. 

He told me that basically if the key is close to the cloning device the key can 
be copied which has all kinds of issues with theft etc. so if he would be 
sitting next to someone who has a key in pocket or purse he could clone the key 
in just a couple minutes. Scary huh?

--FT
Sent from iFōn

> On May 8, 2024, at 12:39 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> That seems even sillier. If MB can make the cars, then they can make the 
> parts including keys if they want to.
> 
> There must also be some form of work-around possible.
> 
> Randy
> 
> 
>> On 08/05/2024 11:31 AM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:
>> I’m sure Jamie could provide background if he had time, but as I understand 
>> it, they couldn’t find a vendor who would/could make them.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
 On May 8, 2024, at 9:15 AM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
  wrote:
>>> 
>>> That is truly ridiculous. Mercedes should step up and make things like 
>>> that readily available.
>>> 
>>> Randy
>>> 
 On 08/05/2024 11:09 AM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:
 Fobs are for sure, not sure about the “Mickey Mouse” hard key with the 
 RFID chips in it. Same with W140s and W163s, too.
 
 -D
 
>> On May 8, 2024, at 7:47 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
> I think keys for R129s are pretty much unobtainium.  Plus it looks rough.
> 
> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/1549645479227404
> 
> --
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>>> 
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Electric Vehicles

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

What is the efficiency of the fuel supply? Gotta include the transportation 
costs there too, every gallon of diesel burned hauling fuel counts there.

I'm not saying its worse or better, I'm curious about it...

-Curt


On Tuesday, May 7, 2024 at 02:30:51 PM EDT, Jim Cathey via Mercedes 
 wrote: 





I would like to see a PSA where the systemic efficiency of EV's was modeled,
using plumbing.  Specifically a water analog starting with a large tank 
representing
the generating station, with dripping pipes and joints that represent the 
efficiency
of the transmission and distribution losses, and a leaky filler hose that 
represented
the charging efficiency of the EV battery.  And a car that drips representing 
the
battery self-discharge rate.

I think the visual image of 'filling' the pseudo-EV using sweating, dripping,
and spraying pipes and nozzles would dismay many of the would-be-smug
proponents, and ought to go a long way towards tempering the unjustified
exuberance that faction currently has.

A nice avuncular voice-over starting out: "Imagine if we could SEE the electrons
we are using to fuel our nationwide EV fleet..."

I believe our grid is something like 50% efficient, leaving out all the ills of 
batteries.
This will NOT be a dry demonstration!

-- Jim



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Re: [MBZ] Electric Vehicles

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

I've used it, "autopilot" is a really stupid name, you're right, adaptive 
cruise control with a little extra.

I drove in Burbank, CA, heavy Saturday afternoon traffic on the 5 freeway, 
barely any lane markings. It held station just fine for the couple miles I 
tried it. Pretty amazing actually but I kept my hands on the wheel and stayed 
alert like you're supposed to.

-Curt


On Tuesday, May 7, 2024 at 01:59:36 PM EDT, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
 wrote: 





Also, Tesla's "full self drive" is a myth, or at least it might not be what you 
think the name implies. It's adaptive cruise control with lane keeping and a 
bit of navigational awareness. 

There are plenty of stories of Teslas in FSD mode slamming into bridge 
abutments, other vehicles, fire trucks with lights and sirens active, etc.

I would be afraid to use it. I might try it on a bright sunny day on a clear 
road with good lane markings, but I'd be watching it closely. Many Tesla owners 
say it terrifies them regularly.



On Tue, May 7, 2024, at 12:49, Allan Streib via Mercedes wrote:
> Tesla owners have a blind spot. They think that because the car meets 
> their needs (or they have adapted to its limitations without admitting 
> as much), it would meet anybody's needs.
>
> On Tue, May 7, 2024, at 12:19, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:
>> Tesla owner friend of mine drives anywhere/everywhere and is always close
>> to a charging station.  Very cool car, particularly in full self drive.  I
>> would own one if I could afford it.
>>
>> I almost purchased a Mercedes B250E but the 87 mile range was too short, so
>> I purchased a 2015 ML 250 Bluetec instead with a 600 mile range.
>>
>> On Tue, May 7, 2024 at 1:05 PM G Mann via Mercedes 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I will remotely consider owning an EV only when they come with a spare 5
>>> gallon container full of electrons for when it is out of charge and out of
>>> range of a place to plug it in.
>>> Point 1: They are over priced
>>> Point 2: Battery service life is limited and replacement costs far exceed
>>> the value of the car when the battery dies.
>>> Point 3: Disposal of the dead and unrepairable very expensive battery
>>> presents a huge environmental toxic waste problem, for which there is no
>>> current or near future solution.
>>> Point 4: Even at the current ownership density, the electrical grid is over
>>> task to provide sufficient electrons to "gas them up", and, strictly from
>>> the engineering view, rebuilding the electrical grid to meet present and
>>> future demands [if we all only drove EV's] would cost many Billions of
>>> dollars, and take decades to approve new power generation plants, since
>>> coal and nuke are now virtually outlawed, all viable streams have been
>>> dammed and producing at capacity, [example, Lake Meade draw down in last 3
>>> years left it nearly empty.]
>>> Point 5: If you give proper consideration to the environmental damage
>>> mining and processing of rare earth materials causes, world wide, to
>>> produce the exotic EV batteries, then add the disposal environmental
>>> problems , lack of ability to recover rare earth materials from the "dead
>>> batteries" the highly touted "EV" comes off the assembly line with an
>>> environmental toxic load that far exceeds its capacity to "Save the
>>> environment"  and that is brand new, never driven, even.
>>> Bottom line, EV's are a man made environmental disaster produced under the
>>> governmental guise of "saving the world"..
>>> { Short rant complete, note the Mercedes has structurally withdrawn from
>>> the EV marketplace.. }
>>> G. Mann ...
>>>
>>> On Tue, May 7, 2024 at 9:37 AM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> > The chinee are flooding Euro markets with cheepcheep EVs, in UK they are
>>> > like £12k, cheeper than anything any brit or euro builder can build and
>>> > cheaper than any other vehicle on the market.  A big RORO dumped off
>>> > like a thousand of them a few weeks ago at some UK port.  They are
>>> > likely low-powered, low-range tin cans that might appeal to some if they
>>> > have travel that would fit within the limitations of a low-end EV.  Saw
>>> > a report that the chinee are building so many more EVs than needed for
>>> > domestic consumption that they are also dumping them in Germany etc.
>>> > where they are awaiting release to the markets (if that happens).  If
>>> > the brits and euros cut their own throats with EV mandates and allowing
>>> > chinee imports that will be the death of local auto manufacturing, EV
>>> > products or not.  Not sure they would be approved for US markets but who
>>> > knows what our elected fools will do.
>>> >
>>> > The other issue that is looming as EV adoption increases is charging the
>>> > things.  You would need a home charger of some significant capacity to
>>> > charge them quickly (probably minimum 40A if not much more).  For those
>>> > who don't have their own house where they could install a charger, they

Re: [MBZ] OT - Looking for a Chainsaw?

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

We've got the regular charger but I think only small-ish batteries. The picture 
I had posted isn't clear, that might be the small battery too. I think the 
small one we have is 2ah, the "big" one is maybe 4. I'd like a 5, the 4 cuts 
out just short of when I'm tired.

The charge time on the standard charger isn't too bad, an hour maybe? Time to 
have a cuppa and relax a bit. The battery will cut a whole loader load of wood. 
So I haul it back and charge my batteries while charging the saw. Or, if I'm 
feeling really froggy, split the load...

-Curt




On Tuesday, May 7, 2024 at 01:31:52 PM EDT, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
 wrote: 





Quite true, and something I mentioned previously.

I just dropped a shade under $200 at HF for the saw, a 5AH battery and a 
“regular” charger. I had a gift card for $11, a store credit for a return for 
about $80, so my “net” was around $100 for the total.

I would have liked to get the faster charger, but it was on sale this week and 
they were cleaned out of them.

-D


> On May 7, 2024, at 8:39 AM, Allan Streib  wrote:
> 
> When you compare the cost of the Milwaukee you have to remember that with 
> another brand you'll need to buy a battery (or two) and a charger that you 
> would not need otherwise.
> 
> Yes if you already have a compatible HF battery and charger then that changes 
> things. Though I'd guess that a cordless drill would take a smaller battery 
> than a chain saw?
> 
> I have two of the Atlas batteries. The mower only needs one but it has room 
> for two for extended run time. It uses them sequentially. The chainsaw takes 
> one, and it's nice to have another one so that you can swap in a charged 
> battery if you are doing a lot of cutting and drain the first one.
> 
> 
>> On Tue, May 7, 2024, at 09:52, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:
>> Thanks Curt and others!
>> 
>> Yes, I have a boatload of Milwaukee M18 tools, so I’m heavily invested
>> in their products. Not sure I can justify the cost of one of their
>> chainsaws when I consider the amount of use versus cost.
>> 
>> I have a Bauer drill from a few years back, not sure how I ended up
>> with it and I’m not sure it’s a 20V one. It’s probably still in a box
>> somewhere, I’ll have to look. The Atlas does look nice, but it’s
>> another system, a road I really don’t want to go down with another tool.
>> 
>> I’ll have a look in the garage today and see what I have as far as the
>> Bauer drill, if I can find it. My local HF has the saw but no chargers
>> or batteries, thanks to the sale they’ve got going right now. Might
>> have to buy the saw and wait a week or two for them to restock chargers
>> and batteries.
>> 
>> -D
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Re: [MBZ] Electric Vehicles

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

Grant, point 3 is wrong, there are giant battery shredders that automatically 
separate batteries into their separate components. They do it inside of a magic 
fluid so the lithium doesn't catch fire as would like to do.

I feel like a lot of the arguments against electric cars are "humans are too 
stupid to make this work." which ignores our ability to make all sorts of stuff 
work. 120 years ago all the brightest minds of the age said that gas fired cars 
were idiotic, why pay for gas when you could get a horse? Besides which you'd 
need to get gasoline somewhere, grass was everywhere...

Now that I think of it just about every argument against electric cars now 
reflects a similar argument against gas powered vehicles in the time of the 
horse. The largest being "Electric cars can't replace gas powered cars in every 
way." well no duh, and they don't need to. A 200 mile capacity electric car 
will replace 80-90% of most people's needs. All of us have multiple cars, it'd 
be just a matter of choosing the other one on a day when the electric car 
doesn't meet your needs.

-Curt


On Tuesday, May 7, 2024 at 01:05:22 PM EDT, G Mann via Mercedes 
 wrote: 





I will remotely consider owning an EV only when they come with a spare 5
gallon container full of electrons for when it is out of charge and out of
range of a place to plug it in.
Point 1: They are over priced
Point 2: Battery service life is limited and replacement costs far exceed
the value of the car when the battery dies.
Point 3: Disposal of the dead and unrepairable very expensive battery
presents a huge environmental toxic waste problem, for which there is no
current or near future solution.
Point 4: Even at the current ownership density, the electrical grid is over
task to provide sufficient electrons to "gas them up", and, strictly from
the engineering view, rebuilding the electrical grid to meet present and
future demands [if we all only drove EV's] would cost many Billions of
dollars, and take decades to approve new power generation plants, since
coal and nuke are now virtually outlawed, all viable streams have been
dammed and producing at capacity, [example, Lake Meade draw down in last 3
years left it nearly empty.]
Point 5: If you give proper consideration to the environmental damage
mining and processing of rare earth materials causes, world wide, to
produce the exotic EV batteries, then add the disposal environmental
problems , lack of ability to recover rare earth materials from the "dead
batteries" the highly touted "EV" comes off the assembly line with an
environmental toxic load that far exceeds its capacity to "Save the
environment"  and that is brand new, never driven, even.
Bottom line, EV's are a man made environmental disaster produced under the
governmental guise of "saving the world"..
{ Short rant complete, note the Mercedes has structurally withdrawn from
the EV marketplace.. }
G. Mann ...

On Tue, May 7, 2024 at 9:37 AM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> The chinee are flooding Euro markets with cheepcheep EVs, in UK they are
> like £12k, cheeper than anything any brit or euro builder can build and
> cheaper than any other vehicle on the market.  A big RORO dumped off
> like a thousand of them a few weeks ago at some UK port.  They are
> likely low-powered, low-range tin cans that might appeal to some if they
> have travel that would fit within the limitations of a low-end EV.  Saw
> a report that the chinee are building so many more EVs than needed for
> domestic consumption that they are also dumping them in Germany etc.
> where they are awaiting release to the markets (if that happens).  If
> the brits and euros cut their own throats with EV mandates and allowing
> chinee imports that will be the death of local auto manufacturing, EV
> products or not.  Not sure they would be approved for US markets but who
> knows what our elected fools will do.
>
> The other issue that is looming as EV adoption increases is charging the
> things.  You would need a home charger of some significant capacity to
> charge them quickly (probably minimum 40A if not much more).  For those
> who don't have their own house where they could install a charger, they
> have to rely on public chargers or in their apartment complexes etc.  It
> takes quite a bit of time to charge an EV although supercharging can be
> fairly fast but 2 problems -- the batteries can't take multiple
> sequential fast charges so will drop charge rate and increase charge
> time, and if multiple cars are at multi-outlet charging station there is
> not enough current from the grid to do them all at once, so the chargers
> choke the current among each charger and then it takes longer.  So you
> see these long queues at charging stations when everyone decides they
> need juice for tomorrow, or they are on a trip and hit a charging
> station along with many others, and they can sit for hours waiting for
> the queue to move.  Both these issues are pro

Re: [MBZ] Electric Vehicles

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

I had to look up the Bolt, interestingly it was to be discontinued at the end 
of 2023 and then strangely met its sales goals so they've un-discontinued it 
and claim it'll keep going into 2025 at least.

If I were going to get an EV its the one I'd look for, starting price $27k, 
listed range 259 miles which we can assume is more like 250. This is not an 
"around the town car" like people seem to assume. Its small, sure but that's 
what I want in a commuter car. People bitch about putting in a charging port 
but ignore what it would cost to install a gas station...


GM screwed the pooch naming the hybrid the "Volt" and saving "Bolt" for the EV. 
I hope whoever made that decision got sacked, they truely are an idiot.

-Curt


On Tuesday, May 7, 2024 at 12:20:57 PM EDT, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
 wrote: 





Current battery technology, while much improved over the old lead/acid "golf 
cart" batteries is still the limiting factor. The energy density is too low, 
the batteries weigh too much, and they have complicated electrical and 
temperature management needs.

The car you are describing sounds somthing like a Nissan Leaf, Chevy Bolt, or 
Ford Focus EV (I think the Bolt is in limbo and Ford don't make the Focus EV 
anymore). They are smaller, and lighter, but as a result they have a driving 
range that is unsuitable for anything but daily local use. Most people want 
more than that if they are spending multiple 10s of thousands on a new car.

Charging is another issue, even if the energy density and weight issues are 
solved you are just not going to be able to pump that much power through a 
standard 15A wall socket in your garage. So you need to have a charging system 
installed, and possibly a service upgrade to your house, which adds thousands 
more dollars. Or rely on commercial rapid charging stations but those degrade 
the battery quicker.

Then there are the batteries, they have a limited lifespan, are not easy to 
replace, expensive to replace, don't perform well in very hot or very cold 
weather, etc. 

There are just so many unsolved problems. Though I like the idea of such a car, 
the reality is that we can't make them yet.


On Tue, May 7, 2024, at 10:58, Randy Bennell via Mercedes wrote:
> I am not a real fan of the electric vehicles being pushed upon us by the 
> fools who think they are wonderful, but I see enough propaganda on a 
> daily basis to make me think about them.
>
> Some of you folks are engineers etc and likely have a better grasp of 
> this sort of thing than I do, so here are my current thoughts on the 
> subject.
>
> It appears to me that most of the current crop of electric vehicles are 
> high powered and very quick. Some or perhaps most are also all wheel 
> drive. They are also generally quite expensive. They require high 
> powered chargers to charge in reasonable periods of time and the 
> batteries do not last for the long haul and are expensive to replace.
>
> I am wondering why. Would it not make a lot of sense, if one is trying 
> to make a wholesale change to the vehicle world to build lesser 
> vehicles. Use smaller motors that use less power. That should either 
> extend the range or permit smaller batteries of perhaps both would be 
> possible. That should also result in lower electrical use for charging 
> purposes so it would be less expensive to operate them. If the battery 
> was smaller, it should weigh less and special tires might not be 
> required and the tires should last longer. Most would not require all 
> wheel drive so there would be maybe 2 motors rather than 4 of maybe 
> even, only one motor like we have enjoyed in the past. Smaller batteries 
> should be less expensive to replace. Maybe they could even be swappable 
> entities rather than require a lot of work to replace. Despite the fact 
> that "luxury" cars are  popular, there must be a market for more basic 
> cars without all of the electronic gadgetry in cars like the Tesla.
>
> Randy
>
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Re: [MBZ] ** THIS IS NOT A MERCEDES ** 1959 Mercedes-Benz m-class, $33, 990

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

"I want top dollar for my gorgeous car but I'm not smart enough to use 
Facebook."



On Tuesday, May 7, 2024 at 10:30:34 AM EDT, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
 wrote: 





I'm confused

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/1110071633548736

-- 
--FT
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Re: [MBZ] OT - Looking for a Chainsaw?

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

We do an awful lot of trimming but the trees are alive and I'd like to keep 
them that way. The value of the lumber goes down if they're damaged. The 
electric saw makes it easy to take limbs off right up to the trunk...

-Curt

On Tuesday, May 7, 2024 at 01:59:08 AM EDT, G Mann via Mercedes 
 wrote: 





For trimming limbs, from a downed tree, I find a sharp axe is much easier
to deal with than batteries or cords, or gas chainsaw. It always starts, no
gas to mix, and never needs carb cleaned, and, it's easier to carry.

On Mon, May 6, 2024 at 8:13 PM dan penoff.com via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> And they (Milwaukee) do have a number of options, so maybe I’ll look at
> that. Need to do some research on them, too.
>
> -D
>
> > On May 6, 2024, at 7:58 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > Some good points, Allan, thanks!
> >
> > I’m heavily invested in the MIlwaukee “M18” platform, so I may look and
> see what they have. Never thought to look there…duh!
> >
> > -D
> >
> >> On May 6, 2024, at 6:59 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> Just to add, I also have their electric push mower, which uses the same
> batteries.
> >>
> >> Except for the color and branding, it looks identical to a lot of the
> electric mowers sold at Lowes, Amazon, and other places. I don't know if
> the batteries are interchangable but I think they are all made by the same
> Taiwanese or Chinese manufacturer.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Mon, May 6, 2024, at 20:42, Allan Streib via Mercedes wrote:
> >>> I'm happy with my Harbor Freight Atlas battery electric chainsaw. I
> >>> doubt it would hold up to daily professional use but for what I need
> it
> >>> has done fine so far.
> >>>
> >>> If you're already invested in another battery system I would probably
> >>> stay with that. I don't think there's a whole lot of difference in the
> >>> saws.
> >>>
> >>> Yes, not fooling with carbs every spring, mixing two-stroke oil and
> >>> gas, trying to get it to start and stay running -- so nice.
> >>>
> >>> Allan
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Mon, May 6, 2024, at 19:59, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:
>  Stihl, I would expect, but does anyone have any experience with their
>  battery-operated saws? I don’t need to fell 100-year-old Ponderosa
>  pines onmy lot, I’ve got a guy to do that for me. But - I need to
>  de-limb and do other light trimming.
> 
>  Battery just makes so much sense these days. I’ve got a decent used
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> as
>  I can’t get it started to save my life (it does run on ether,
> though!)
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Re: [MBZ] OT - Looking for a Chainsaw?

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The trick to keeping a 2 stroke engine running is the canned gas from the 
hardware store, it lasts indefinitely, doesn't gum up in the carb.

I need to break out the brush cutter (think string trimmer with a metal blade) 
to clear some trails on the great northern estate. Last year I burned a whole 
gallon of gas through it which at $25/gallon for the canned gas is expensive 
but I've wasted an awful lot of mix gas that's gone bad from sitting. I've also 
wasted a bunch of time and effort cleaning carbs from dirty gas.

This year I plan to mix one gallon of pump gas, I'll use that for most of the 
day but the last refill each day will be canned gas just in case I end up 
leaving it...

-Curt


On Monday, May 6, 2024 at 09:43:51 PM EDT, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
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I'm happy with my Harbor Freight Atlas battery electric chainsaw. I doubt it 
would hold up to daily professional use but for what I need it has done fine so 
far.

If you're already invested in another battery system I would probably stay with 
that. I don't think there's a whole lot of difference in the saws.

Yes, not fooling with carbs every spring, mixing two-stroke oil and gas, trying 
to get it to start and stay running -- so nice.

Allan 


On Mon, May 6, 2024, at 19:59, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:
> Stihl, I would expect, but does anyone have any experience with their 
> battery-operated saws? I don’t need to fell 100-year-old Ponderosa 
> pines onmy lot, I’ve got a guy to do that for me. But - I need to 
> de-limb and do other light trimming.
>
> Battery just makes so much sense these days. I’ve got a decent used 
> Stihl in the garage right now that needs a carb rebuild, I suspect, as 
> I can’t get it started to save my life (it does run on ether, though!) 
> I’m looking for easy, not more work.
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Re: [MBZ] OT - Looking for a Chainsaw?

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Honestly I'd suggest Harbor Freight. I've got the cheapo Bauer trimming saw 
that punches way above its weight: https://photos.app.goo.gl/p62DUZYds2BFJ7cp8

Its been the primary firewood getter at camp for the last couple years. I've 
fallen behind so this year I'll break out my Husky and do some serious cutting.

The only let down on the Bauer is the chain tensioning mechanism, it doesn't 
stay tight reliably. If I bought another I'd go for the Atlas which has a more 
conventional system that requires a tool. The Atlas is a bigger, more powerful 
saw anyway.

Otherwise since I'm already in the Makita ecosystem I'd go Makita, I've been 
very happy with their stuff.

Stihl isn't actually highly rated for their electrics, or wasn't a few years 
ago when I last looked into it. They know how to make a saw but they don't 
really know electric. Chainsaws are pretty well worked out, the electric drive 
is the more difficult part...

My buddy that firewood seller gave up on Stihl after he had to have his big saw 
rebuilt for the I don't remember how many times. He got a red saw but I can't 
remember the brand. He seems happy with it...

I've got Husky 445, good homeowner saw. The charge air system means it really 
doesn't smoke. The plastic bottom end of the saw keeps it light. I did upgrade 
to a semi-chisel chain which made all the difference.

-Curt


On Monday, May 6, 2024 at 09:00:04 PM EDT, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
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Stihl, I would expect, but does anyone have any experience with their 
battery-operated saws? I don’t need to fell 100-year-old Ponderosa pines onmy 
lot, I’ve got a guy to do that for me. But - I need to de-limb and do other 
light trimming.

Battery just makes so much sense these days. I’ve got a decent used Stihl in 
the garage right now that needs a carb rebuild, I suspect, as I can’t get it 
started to save my life (it does run on ether, though!) I’m looking for easy, 
not more work.

-D
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Re: [MBZ] Interesting but I think price is too high

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We get that in New England too, especially in the farm county up north.

-Curt

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grown up in the Midwest don’t understand the thrill of sitting out on the 
(enclosed) porch and watching the whole process of a big storm blowing up. 
Something I never tire of, but don’t see much of anymore, either.

-D

> On Apr 29, 2024, at 9:34 AM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Two nights ago we had a batch go through. First time in 40+ years I went to 
> bed with a tornado warning underway. 
> Lightning struck a 525kV line tower about 400 yards from the house as we were 
> watching the sideways rain. One kind of forgets how impressive that is. The 
> whole experience was a little overwhelming to my youngest daughter who had 
> never experienced the routine having lived in AZ all her life. 
> I finished all the projects my dad had ready for me (rear brakes on the Ram I 
> traded him, replacing a couple of janky boards on his expansive deck and 
> prepping it for staining, setting a precast concrete stoop off his front 
> porch, fetching and installing a modem for his house), we’ve done the 
> requisite family visits introducing the new granddaughter, so it’s time to 
> fly back to AZ tomorrow. 
> Little Inch is busting some top teeth through so the trip home might be a 
> little fussy. 
> 
> AZBob
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>> On Apr 29, 2024, at 9:21 AM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Better get out of Caterpillar Land before the next batch of Kaleb’s 
>> windstorms come your way.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>>> On Apr 29, 2024, at 5:40 AM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hey, I’m in Peoria right now. We go back to AZ tomorrow.
>>> 
>>> AZBob
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
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> On Apr 29, 2024, at 7:22 AM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
 
 A little high but for $4-5k would be a good deal esp if you had a trans 
 to pop in the one that won’t move.
 
 —FT
 
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Re: [MBZ] Jetta TDI 5 speed wagon on BAT

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Same year as Angie's Golf although hers has the BEW "Pump deuce" engine and I 
think this is an older VE type. I prefer the older engine although I guess the 
BEW can make more serious power. In any case a stage 1 tune takes it to 110hp 
for about $300. Totally worth it, it's the tune the Euro engines already have 
That price is absurd, the car looks nice but not that nice... Gen 4 cars are 
getting a little hard for find but they're still around.
Curt

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rare?  Desirable?
https://bringatrailer.com/listing/2003-volkswagen-jetta-diesel-wagon/
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Re: [MBZ] Happy Birthday, Kleb!

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Ah right, I'd forgotten about Jamie. Bad on me, I've met him a few times.

-Curt




On Thursday, April 25, 2024 at 08:14:15 AM EDT, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
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Jaime still lurks around and he is younger than me. Not sure who else might be. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Apr 25, 2024, at 6:07 AM, Curt Raymond  wrote:
> 
> Really? I had assumed you were the youngest on the list. I've got another 
> other year of my 40's, guess that makes me the youngest...
> 
> -Curt
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Wednesday, April 24, 2024 at 04:43:42 PM EDT, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
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> 
> 
> 
> This is my last year in my 40s.
> 
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> Sent from my iPhone
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>> On Apr 24, 2024, at 3:40 PM, Allan Streib  wrote:
>> 
>> Happy Birthday!. Are you at the age yet where your birthday cake looks like 
>> a prairie fire?
>> 
>> 
 On Wed, Apr 24, 2024, at 15:13, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
>>> Y’all should take up a collection to buy me an Okie acres yard queen
>>> for my birthday.
>>> 
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> On Apr 24, 2024, at 2:57 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
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 It’s Okieboy’s birthday! Happy Birthday, Kleb!
 
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Re: [MBZ] Happy Birthday, Kleb!

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Really? I had assumed you were the youngest on the list. I've got another other 
year of my 40's, guess that makes me the youngest...

-Curt




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This is my last year in my 40s.


Sent from my iPhone

> On Apr 24, 2024, at 3:40 PM, Allan Streib  wrote:
> 
> Happy Birthday!. Are you at the age yet where your birthday cake looks like 
> a prairie fire?
> 
> 
>> On Wed, Apr 24, 2024, at 15:13, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
>> Y’all should take up a collection to buy me an Okie acres yard queen
>> for my birthday.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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>>> It’s Okieboy’s birthday! Happy Birthday, Kleb!
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Those Saab wagons are cool. I drove one once where I realized I had no idea how 
to drive a column shift manual.

It was a short ride, I found 1-3 eventually. Never did find reverse. Had to get 
out and push to get turned around. Fortunately its a light car.

-Curt


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Re: [MBZ] OT: TDI brakes

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Which reminds me of a trick I've taken to:

The wheels on the VWs (both the Golf and Jetta) are enclined to weld themselves 
to the rotors. I used to put anti-seize on but as you probably know that 
"mechanics glitter" can make an awful mess if you touch it.

Watch Wes Work on Youtube uses fluid film so the last time I had the wheels off 
I tried that, a quick spray on the wheel where it contacts the hub. Wheels come 
off again no problem. I'm sold, of course the car does smell of sheep for a 
couple days...

-Curt


On Thursday, April 18, 2024 at 04:04:19 PM EDT, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
 wrote: 





I just did all four corners on Mrs. Dan’s W211, and despite being very clean 
underneath yet coming from the Tri-State area (Chicago) the rotors were not 
keen to come off. It took some soaking with homemade penetrating oil and a few 
days before they would come loose. I cleaned up the flanges and greased them 
for the next time. Everything else was fine.

-D

> On Apr 18, 2024, at 3:55 PM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> When I did front and rear on my 2014 Jetta it was much less dramatic than 
> that since we don’t have the rust issue here in the AZ. 
> 
> AZBob
> 
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> Sent from my iPhone
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>> On Apr 18, 2024, at 12:50 PM, Michael Esh via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Nice Work!  Brake work is satisfying and I always feel safer doing it 
>> myself.  
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Apr 18, 2024, at 1:59 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> So my 2015 Jetta TDI has needed brakes for awhile now, they were pulsing 
>>> something terrible. I'd blamed it on Angie's riding the brakes. She does 
>>> but in this case I think it was actually my fault.
>>> 
>>> The pins on the front brakes had very little grease left. Pads looked fine 
>>> but I think the rotors were cupped, causing some of the pulsing. The pins 
>>> also had a coating of dried schmutz, presumably the remnants of the grease. 
>>> I soaked them in brake fluid and cleaned with a wire brush and very fine 
>>> steel wool. I found I had a spare in my parts bin so I swapped that in for 
>>> the worst one.
>>> 
>>> When I reinstalled I coated them with a thick layer of Sil-Glyde silicone 
>>> pin lube. I only discovered it a few years ago and clearly needed to put 
>>> some on the last time I did these brakes.
>>> 
>>> The rear pads were worn but the rotors were trashed, big chunks out of 
>>> them. I had to spend considerable time cleaning the caliper frame to get 
>>> the new pads in. I think that rust jacking had trapped the pads and stuck 
>>> them to the rotor which destroyed it.
>>> 
>>> Anyway when I had the car in for a new timing belt recently they quoted me 
>>> $1500 for this job, all in I paid around $250. Took me just under 5 hours 
>>> all told and it would have been quicker but after I did the fronts I 
>>> cleaned up and took it for a ride which is when I realized I needed to do 
>>> the rears too...
>>> 
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[MBZ] OT: TDI brakes

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

So my 2015 Jetta TDI has needed brakes for awhile now, they were pulsing 
something terrible. I'd blamed it on Angie's riding the brakes. She does but in 
this case I think it was actually my fault.

The pins on the front brakes had very little grease left. Pads looked fine but 
I think the rotors were cupped, causing some of the pulsing. The pins also had 
a coating of dried schmutz, presumably the remnants of the grease. I soaked 
them in brake fluid and cleaned with a wire brush and very fine steel wool. I 
found I had a spare in my parts bin so I swapped that in for the worst one.

When I reinstalled I coated them with a thick layer of Sil-Glyde silicone pin 
lube. I only discovered it a few years ago and clearly needed to put some on 
the last time I did these brakes.

The rear pads were worn but the rotors were trashed, big chunks out of them. I 
had to spend considerable time cleaning the caliper frame to get the new pads 
in. I think that rust jacking had trapped the pads and stuck them to the rotor 
which destroyed it.

Anyway when I had the car in for a new timing belt recently they quoted me 
$1500 for this job, all in I paid around $250. Took me just under 5 hours all 
told and it would have been quicker but after I did the fronts I cleaned up and 
took it for a ride which is when I realized I needed to do the rears too...

-Curt

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Re: [MBZ] 300D Manny

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My 2015 Jetta TDI is a hoot and a hollar, 140ish post-dieselgate HP scoots it 
along nice. It'll pull hard up around 95mph which is as fast as I've ever cared 
to go. Its maybe a little bigger than a 123 inside. I can ride in the backseat 
with the front seat setup for me. If I put the front seat all the way back I 
can't get the clutch all the way down.
Slightly more tinny than a 123 but the engine is quieter so its probably a 
wash. Not quite as comfortable a ride as an MB...

-Curt


On Thursday, April 18, 2024 at 01:26:08 PM EDT, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes 
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My initial test drive of a VW TDI was a 2001 Bug.
Up to that point having only driven my NA MB diesels and the mid 70's GM 
diesels, I tromped on the foot feet to get us out into traffic and gave 
everyone in the bug whiplash. I was astonished at the get up and go.
After I got the TDI Bug for oldest girl child to drive around PRK, I got my 
first 300D turbo and was going to swear off NA units.until I found a low 
mileage 240D manny that I couldn't pass up. I enjoyed the great fuel mileage 
driving back and forth to the old nuke plant and the engaged driving a manual 
requires but missed the scoots.

AZBob

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Subject: Re: [MBZ] 300D Manny

I was astonished when I started driving a TDI and finally had a turbo that's 
spooled and working at 900 rpm. The turbo is so much more effective on those 
cars.

I've never driven a newer MB diesel, I'd hope the turbo gets going sooner...

-Curt


On Wednesday, April 17, 2024 at 02:51:17 PM EDT, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
 wrote:





Always wanted a manual in my 300D. Settled for shifting between "S" and "D" as 
needed.

Turbo is a bit slow to spool up on these, so you'd need to learn to not let the 
RPMs fall too much during shifts.


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Re: [MBZ] BAUER 5.7 Amp, 6 in. Short-Throw Random Orbit DA Polisher/Sander for $39.99

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

Vibratory tools have been out for awhile but I don't think the cutters were 
very good. Newer ones are much better and way more precise than you can be with 
a sawzall.

I've got a Makita cordless one, its going to get exercised next month cutting 
new heading ducts into the great northern estate. The builders put in new 
floors but didn't cut in any ducts, which is fine, I'm ordering nickle plated 
grates anyway.

-Curt


On Thursday, April 18, 2024 at 12:56:05 PM EDT, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
 wrote: 





Yeah, I got one of those a long time ago, too - the one with the fixed head. I 
just needed a Sawzall equivalent for some demo work. It’s still in my toolbox 
10 years later. I don’t use it much.

On a related note, has everyone discovered “multitools,” the things with the 
blade that sticks out and vibrates? When I replaced the service door on the 
garage in Flagstaff, I bought a nice M18 Milwaukee one. Cut through stuff like 
buttah, and flush, too! Just used it again last week. Why didn’t someone think 
these up years ago? Even a corded one would be nice.

-D

> On Apr 18, 2024, at 12:09 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I forgot about my recip saw. I got the HF one with the rotating head. Its 
> awfully convenient to be able to rotate the blade into position without 
> having to move the handle...
> 
> -Curt
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Thursday, April 18, 2024 at 11:45:23 AM EDT, Buggered Benzmail via 
> Mercedes  wrote: 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Years ago I bought a HF recip saw for $20 when the main ring gear in my old 
> (early 80s)  Sears recip saw (rebranded Milwaukee) stripped. Parts for it 
> NLA. I figured the HF thing would last long enough to finish the job and here 
> it is like 12yr on, a bit worse for the wear but still recipping and I’ve 
> pretty much beat the shite out of it. They still sell them for $20 too, I 
> should probably get a backup. 
> 
> I have a $12 angle grinder too I got for my welding classes and that thing 
> isn’t bad either. At those prices I have no expectations so however long they 
> last exceeds my expectations. 
> 
> --FT
> Sent from iFōn
> 
>> On Apr 18, 2024, at 11:09 AM, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> I got one of those grinders when they were on sale for $9.99. I figured if 
>> I got one job done with it, it was worth it. I don't use it very often but 
>> it's still working fine.
>> 
>> I bought a Hercules battery powered impact driver and built a deck with it 
>> last summer. Never gave any hint of struggling.
>> 
>> I have an Atlas battery powered chain saw, and an electric push mower, and 
>> both are great so far. I just used the chain saw to cut up a fallen tree a 
>> couple of weeks ago and it did great. So nice to get it out after a winter 
>> and not deal with mixing 2-stroke fuel and trying to get it started.
>> 
>> I have had to return one or two of their ratchet wrenches, but never a 
>> problem exchanging them.
>> 
>> 
>>> On Thu, Apr 18, 2024, at 09:56, Curt Raymond wrote:
>>> I was telling a friend last week that Harbor Freight tools have really
>>> improved in the last 10 years and I think the electric tools are where
>>> the real improvement has taken place.
>>> 
>>> I've got one of the very cheap Central Electric angle grinders, I think
>>> it was $20 or less, that I bought to cut off some bolts under the house
>>> at the great northern estate. It's eaten a hot supper and kept on
>>> going. The switch is a little flaky but I've beaten the ever loving
>>> snot out of that thing. It doesn't owe me a cent...
>>> 
>>> -Curt
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Thursday, April 18, 2024 at 10:04:46 AM EDT, Allan Streib via
>>> Mercedes  wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Yeah the Bauer tools are "OK" probably decent enough for household use.
>>> 
>>> Hard to go too wrong at that price.
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Thu, Apr 18, 2024, at 08:57, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote:
>>>> Good deal for a RO DA unit for paint correction
>>>> 
>>>> Heavy Duty Dual Action Variable Speed Polisher
>>>> 
>>>> https://go.harborfreight.com/email/2024/04/e182939-64528
>>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] BAUER 5.7 Amp, 6 in. Short-Throw Random Orbit DA Polisher/Sander for $39.99

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

I forgot about my recip saw. I got the HF one with the rotating head. Its 
awfully convenient to be able to rotate the blade into position without having 
to move the handle...

-Curt




On Thursday, April 18, 2024 at 11:45:23 AM EDT, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
 wrote: 





Years ago I bought a HF recip saw for $20 when the main ring gear in my old 
(early 80s)  Sears recip saw (rebranded Milwaukee) stripped. Parts for it NLA. 
I figured the HF thing would last long enough to finish the job and here it is 
like 12yr on, a bit worse for the wear but still recipping and I’ve pretty much 
beat the shite out of it. They still sell them for $20 too, I should probably 
get a backup. 

I have a $12 angle grinder too I got for my welding classes and that thing 
isn’t bad either. At those prices I have no expectations so however long they 
last exceeds my expectations. 

--FT
Sent from iFōn

> On Apr 18, 2024, at 11:09 AM, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I got one of those grinders when they were on sale for $9.99. I figured if I 
> got one job done with it, it was worth it. I don't use it very often but it's 
> still working fine.
> 
> I bought a Hercules battery powered impact driver and built a deck with it 
> last summer. Never gave any hint of struggling.
> 
> I have an Atlas battery powered chain saw, and an electric push mower, and 
> both are great so far. I just used the chain saw to cut up a fallen tree a 
> couple of weeks ago and it did great. So nice to get it out after a winter 
> and not deal with mixing 2-stroke fuel and trying to get it started.
> 
> I have had to return one or two of their ratchet wrenches, but never a 
> problem exchanging them.
> 
> 
>> On Thu, Apr 18, 2024, at 09:56, Curt Raymond wrote:
>> I was telling a friend last week that Harbor Freight tools have really
>> improved in the last 10 years and I think the electric tools are where
>> the real improvement has taken place.
>> 
>> I've got one of the very cheap Central Electric angle grinders, I think
>> it was $20 or less, that I bought to cut off some bolts under the house
>> at the great northern estate. It's eaten a hot supper and kept on
>> going. The switch is a little flaky but I've beaten the ever loving
>> snot out of that thing. It doesn't owe me a cent...
>> 
>> -Curt
>> 
>> 
>> On Thursday, April 18, 2024 at 10:04:46 AM EDT, Allan Streib via
>> Mercedes  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Yeah the Bauer tools are "OK" probably decent enough for household use.
>> 
>> Hard to go too wrong at that price.
>> 
>> 
>>> On Thu, Apr 18, 2024, at 08:57, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote:
>>> Good deal for a RO DA unit for paint correction
>>> 
>>> Heavy Duty Dual Action Variable Speed Polisher
>>> 
>>> https://go.harborfreight.com/email/2024/04/e182939-64528
>>> 
>>> --
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Re: [MBZ] BAUER 5.7 Amp, 6 in. Short-Throw Random Orbit DA Polisher/Sander for $39.99

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

Which Atlas saw do you have?

We've got the Bauer ultra cheapie one which has been a solid saw other than the 
tensioner stinks. The Atlas appears to have a more convention chain tensioning 
system.

I really like electric for a trimming saw because of the way the saw stops 
pretty much immediately when you let go of the trigger. This is doubly true for 
when I'm up on a ladder.

We've got some spruce trees on the great northern estate that are between the 
house and the telephone lines (definitely telephone, I know the difference) 
that need to go. They're not too high yet so I think with the electric saw I 
can take them down piece by piece off a ladder. An electric saw will be the way 
to go...


-Curt


On Thursday, April 18, 2024 at 11:09:10 AM EDT, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
 wrote: 





I got one of those grinders when they were on sale for $9.99. I figured if I 
got one job done with it, it was worth it. I don't use it very often but it's 
still working fine.

I bought a Hercules battery powered impact driver and built a deck with it last 
summer. Never gave any hint of struggling.

I have an Atlas battery powered chain saw, and an electric push mower, and both 
are great so far. I just used the chain saw to cut up a fallen tree a couple of 
weeks ago and it did great. So nice to get it out after a winter and not deal 
with mixing 2-stroke fuel and trying to get it started.

I have had to return one or two of their ratchet wrenches, but never a problem 
exchanging them.


On Thu, Apr 18, 2024, at 09:56, Curt Raymond wrote:
> I was telling a friend last week that Harbor Freight tools have really 
> improved in the last 10 years and I think the electric tools are where 
> the real improvement has taken place.
>
> I've got one of the very cheap Central Electric angle grinders, I think 
> it was $20 or less, that I bought to cut off some bolts under the house 
> at the great northern estate. It's eaten a hot supper and kept on 
> going. The switch is a little flaky but I've beaten the ever loving 
> snot out of that thing. It doesn't owe me a cent...
>
> -Curt
>
>
> On Thursday, April 18, 2024 at 10:04:46 AM EDT, Allan Streib via 
> Mercedes  wrote: 
>
>
>
>
>
> Yeah the Bauer tools are "OK" probably decent enough for household use.
>
> Hard to go too wrong at that price.
>
>
> On Thu, Apr 18, 2024, at 08:57, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote:
>> Good deal for a RO DA unit for paint correction
>>
>> Heavy Duty Dual Action Variable Speed Polisher
>>
>> https://go.harborfreight.com/email/2024/04/e182939-64528
>>
>> -- 
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Re: [MBZ] BAUER 5.7 Amp, 6 in. Short-Throw Random Orbit DA Polisher/Sander for $39.99

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

I was telling a friend last week that Harbor Freight tools have really improved 
in the last 10 years and I think the electric tools are where the real 
improvement has taken place.

I've got one of the very cheap Central Electric angle grinders, I think it was 
$20 or less, that I bought to cut off some bolts under the house at the great 
northern estate. It's eaten a hot supper and kept on going. The switch is a 
little flaky but I've beaten the ever loving snot out of that thing. It doesn't 
owe me a cent...

-Curt


On Thursday, April 18, 2024 at 10:04:46 AM EDT, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
 wrote: 





Yeah the Bauer tools are "OK" probably decent enough for household use.

Hard to go too wrong at that price.


On Thu, Apr 18, 2024, at 08:57, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote:
> Good deal for a RO DA unit for paint correction
>
> Heavy Duty Dual Action Variable Speed Polisher
>
> https://go.harborfreight.com/email/2024/04/e182939-64528
>
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Re: [MBZ] 300D Manny

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

I'd always assumed a 240D 3.0 would be an "adequately powerful 240D". 

As somebody who lives where its kind of hilly a 240D with its 50mph max 
sustained hill climbing speed was a drag. I used to hit some hills at 70mph so 
I could crest at 55. A 190D has the same power but a little less weight and 
could hold speed up the hills.

I was very happy with my '98 Jetta TDI, at 90hp it had enough power to 
accelerate up those hills so I recon a 240D 3.0 would probably be able to 
sustain speed or maybe accelerate a little.

Of course there would be a fuel use penalty on the NA engine.

-Curt


On Wednesday, April 17, 2024 at 04:04:48 PM EDT, Craig via Mercedes 
 wrote: 





On Wed, 17 Apr 2024 13:50:09 -0500 Allan Streib via Mercedes
 wrote:

> Always wanted a manual in my 300D. Settled for shifting between "S" and
> "D" as needed.
> 
> Turbo is a bit slow to spool up on these, so you'd need to learn to not
> let the RPMs fall too much during shifts.

My 240D/3.0 (which is now at Okie Acres) had a OM617.912 naturally
aspirated engine. It got up and went acceptably, though not like my
current W116 300SD ...


Craig


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Re: [MBZ] 300D Manny

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

I was astonished when I started driving a TDI and finally had a turbo that's 
spooled and working at 900 rpm. The turbo is so much more effective on those 
cars.

I've never driven a newer MB diesel, I'd hope the turbo gets going sooner...

-Curt


On Wednesday, April 17, 2024 at 02:51:17 PM EDT, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
 wrote: 





Always wanted a manual in my 300D. Settled for shifting between "S" and "D" as 
needed.

Turbo is a bit slow to spool up on these, so you'd need to learn to not let the 
RPMs fall too much during shifts.


On Wed, Apr 17, 2024, at 12:00, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes wrote:
> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/959721412262078/
>
> I wonder what this would drive like?
>
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Re: [MBZ] EV AMG

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

It's time to give up on the idea of EVs as economy cars...
Curt

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  On Fri, Apr 12, 2024 at 2:09 PM, Bob Rentfro via 
Mercedes wrote:   I got all my chores done, so I sat 
down to watch The Masters, which is being brought to me by Mercedes. They just 
had a commercial for an AMG that is an EV. 
They quoted some crazy horsepower values, but I wasn’t paying attention. There 
just seems to be something foundationally wrong when you use AMG and EV in the 
same sentence. 

AZBob

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Re: [MBZ] The eclipse

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You bet. I saw 3 or 4 last year. Coulda shot one but I didn't have a bear 
permit.

-Curt


On Thursday, April 11, 2024 at 11:33:07 AM PDT, Andrew Strasfogel 
 wrote: 





Any black bears to attract/eat tourists?

On Thu, Apr 11, 2024 at 1:00 PM Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
 wrote:
> LOL,
> 
> If I could have been there I might have given it a try. The biggest problem 
> in the great northern estate right now is that the water isn't turned on.
> 
> I finally ordered a sediment filter which is the last piece needed. The next 
> time we're up there I need to install that and get a new pressure switch for 
> the pump. I also need to remove the last of the galvanized plumbing...
> 
> Of course the system hasn't been tested since we got all new plumbing, 
> there's bound to be a few leaks.
> 
> -Curt
> 
> 
> On Thursday, April 11, 2024 at 09:55:02 AM PDT, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
>  wrote: 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> C’mon, Curt! I can just see the listing:
> 
> “Rustic Rural Retreat!”
> 
> -D
> 
>> On Apr 11, 2024, at 12:50 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Similar in Maine, they were worried about huge crowds overwhelming 
>> facilities, apparently the reality was fairly mild.
>> 
>> I'm a little disappointed we hadn't prepped the great northern estate to the 
>> point we could have rented it. I've heard of folks who rented a house for 
>> $1000/night. I'd have been happy with half that...
>> 
>> -Curt
>> 
>> 
>> On Wednesday, April 10, 2024 at 07:15:31 PM PDT, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
>>  wrote: 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> The city officials here were saying to expect several hundred thousand 
>> visitors. We got maybe a tenth of that. A lot of restaurants stocked up and 
>> are going to have a lot of food waste in the next week or two. They’re not 
>> happy.
>> 
>> 
>> On Wed, Apr 10, 2024, at 20:03, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
>>> Here in TX there were people that flew in from all over the world to see 
>>> it. 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>>> On Apr 10, 2024, at 3:43 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
>>>>  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Had about 4 minutes of totality here, quite a sight but not something I'd 
>>>> fly across the country to see. It is rather amazing how much light you 
>>>> still get with any bit of the sun exposed, then the sudden change to 
>>>> twilight when it's totally obscured.
>>>> 
>>>> Got lucky and had a cloud-free afternoon.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On Tue, Apr 9, 2024, at 13:08, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:
>>>>> I'm teaching in Las Vegas, we got maybe 1/3 to 1/2 eclipse here. One of
>>>>> my friends had eclipse glasses so we got a pretty good look.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Sadly the great northern estate was right in the path of the totality.
>>>>> Wish I'd been able to be there. A bunch of my family went...
>>>>> 
>>>>> -Curt
>>>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] The eclipse

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LOL,

If I could have been there I might have given it a try. The biggest problem in 
the great northern estate right now is that the water isn't turned on.

I finally ordered a sediment filter which is the last piece needed. The next 
time we're up there I need to install that and get a new pressure switch for 
the pump. I also need to remove the last of the galvanized plumbing...

Of course the system hasn't been tested since we got all new plumbing, there's 
bound to be a few leaks.

-Curt


On Thursday, April 11, 2024 at 09:55:02 AM PDT, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
 wrote: 





C’mon, Curt! I can just see the listing:

“Rustic Rural Retreat!”

-D

> On Apr 11, 2024, at 12:50 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Similar in Maine, they were worried about huge crowds overwhelming 
> facilities, apparently the reality was fairly mild.
> 
> I'm a little disappointed we hadn't prepped the great northern estate to the 
> point we could have rented it. I've heard of folks who rented a house for 
> $1000/night. I'd have been happy with half that...
> 
> -Curt
> 
> 
> On Wednesday, April 10, 2024 at 07:15:31 PM PDT, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
>  wrote: 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> The city officials here were saying to expect several hundred thousand 
> visitors. We got maybe a tenth of that. A lot of restaurants stocked up and 
> are going to have a lot of food waste in the next week or two. They’re not 
> happy.
> 
> 
> On Wed, Apr 10, 2024, at 20:03, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
>> Here in TX there were people that flew in from all over the world to see it. 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Apr 10, 2024, at 3:43 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Had about 4 minutes of totality here, quite a sight but not something I'd 
>>> fly across the country to see. It is rather amazing how much light you 
>>> still get with any bit of the sun exposed, then the sudden change to 
>>> twilight when it's totally obscured.
>>> 
>>> Got lucky and had a cloud-free afternoon.
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Tue, Apr 9, 2024, at 13:08, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:
>>>> I'm teaching in Las Vegas, we got maybe 1/3 to 1/2 eclipse here. One of
>>>> my friends had eclipse glasses so we got a pretty good look.
>>>> 
>>>> Sadly the great northern estate was right in the path of the totality.
>>>> Wish I'd been able to be there. A bunch of my family went...
>>>> 
>>>> -Curt
>>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] The eclipse

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

Similar in Maine, they were worried about huge crowds overwhelming facilities, 
apparently the reality was fairly mild.

I'm a little disappointed we hadn't prepped the great northern estate to the 
point we could have rented it. I've heard of folks who rented a house for 
$1000/night. I'd have been happy with half that...

-Curt


On Wednesday, April 10, 2024 at 07:15:31 PM PDT, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
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The city officials here were saying to expect several hundred thousand 
visitors. We got maybe a tenth of that. A lot of restaurants stocked up and are 
going to have a lot of food waste in the next week or two. They’re not happy.


On Wed, Apr 10, 2024, at 20:03, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
> Here in TX there were people that flew in from all over the world to see it. 
>
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>> On Apr 10, 2024, at 3:43 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Had about 4 minutes of totality here, quite a sight but not something I'd 
>> fly across the country to see. It is rather amazing how much light you still 
>> get with any bit of the sun exposed, then the sudden change to twilight when 
>> it's totally obscured.
>> 
>> Got lucky and had a cloud-free afternoon.
>> 
>> 
>>> On Tue, Apr 9, 2024, at 13:08, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:
>>> I'm teaching in Las Vegas, we got maybe 1/3 to 1/2 eclipse here. One of
>>> my friends had eclipse glasses so we got a pretty good look.
>>> 
>>> Sadly the great northern estate was right in the path of the totality.
>>> Wish I'd been able to be there. A bunch of my family went...
>>> 
>>> -Curt
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Re: [MBZ] National Propaganda Radio reporting we will have to live with inflation for a while longer

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

I don't expect substantial rate cuts any time soon. 0% interest is not 
reasonable...

-Curt


On Wednesday, April 10, 2024 at 07:18:15 AM PDT, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
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Still waiting for those rate cuts, guys…

Interestingly, I got a notice from a credit card provider of a change in terms 
- they are jacking their interest rate to almost 35%! I thought they could 
only charge whatever the max for usury was in the state, which I thought was 
around 29%.

Sucks if you carry balances. Might be cheaper to go see Guido. A little more 
dangerous, of course, but...

-D

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> "higher than expected"
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Re: [MBZ] The eclipse

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

I'm teaching in Las Vegas, we got maybe 1/3 to 1/2 eclipse here. One of my 
friends had eclipse glasses so we got a pretty good look.

Sadly the great northern estate was right in the path of the totality. Wish I'd 
been able to be there. A bunch of my family went...

-Curt


On Monday, April 8, 2024 at 01:39:40 PM PDT, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
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I spent the eclipse at Southfork Ranch (for those that remember the show).  It 
was a nice event and cloudy skies to start off. As the eclipse started, it was 
hit and miss with the clouds clearing. Right at the last 2-3 minutes to 
totality, heavy clouds started rolling in. Right at the time, nothing to see at 
all except a dark normal cloud evening. Within about 5 minutes after totality, 
clouds cleared and hardly a cloud in the sky.  

Here are some pics for you. 




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Re: [MBZ] Eclipse

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Sadly no. I've got to be in Las Vegas...
Apparently most of my family is going to be there. 
The estate is mostly ready to go except the well pump needs a new pressure 
switch. It looks like the one on there is original. Jim Cathy said the pump 
looked to be 100 years old. Pretty good service...
Oh the furnace isn't hooked up either, the wood stove works though...
Curt

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  On Fri, Apr 5, 2024 at 8:39 PM, Frederick Moir via 
Mercedes wrote:   Curt.
Will you be viewing the eclipse from the Great Northern Estate?
-- 
Fred Moir
Lynn MA
Diesel preferred
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Re: [MBZ] Green/green coupé 1980 Mercedes G-Wagon 300GD, $18,500

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We saw a newish G500 in Caribou the other day. I opined that I'd like one of 
these old ones. I think MB USA really missed out by not having them available...
Curt

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  On Fri, Apr 5, 2024 at 3:19 PM, Bob Rentfro via 
Mercedes wrote:   That is very cool. Getting quite 
scarce. Usually the only time you see one it’s been snagged by one of those 
joints in SoCal that rebuilds/fancy-izes them to sell for $60K

AZBob 

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> Looks cool
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Re: [MBZ] Milan brown W116 300SD on BAT

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Cool car, terrible color...

-Curt



On Friday, March 29, 2024 at 11:03:54 AM EDT, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
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Might be able to snag it for cheap.
https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1979-mercedes-benz-300sd-31/
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