Bob Rentfro wrote:
Here in the stinkin desert, unleaded did a $2.86 to $3.04 back to $2.98 then
to $3.09 thing this week.diesel is staying 'tween $2.89 and $3.04
depending upon where you go..
I paid $3.39 for premium yesterday; my TDI has exploded and it took $71
to sate the 140. Ouch.
http://www.epica-awards.org/assets/epica/2004/finalists/print/images/26201b%20%20%20BIM%20Hung%20ShoeP-A.jpg
Allan Streib wrote:
Could not find "KKK" on the web, I'm sure you can imagine what I found
instead!
A turbo for your 123?
Got a URL or address for them?
It's actually K&K - http://www.kkmfg.com/
Tom
Rich Thomas wrote:
Seems reasonable, would be kinda fun to drop a tuned diesel in some old
car.
There's a guy here in St Louis with a very nicely restored '70 Monte
Carlo with an ex-Dodge Ram Cummins 6BT under the hood. I saw it at a
car show on Easter and was walking right past when he s
or, "Autocrossing for Putin"
http://englishrussia.com/?p=835#more-835
I came across this today and am wondering what exactly it is - looks
like a temporary registration or tax receipt for some Americans picking
up a Grosser in Germany.
http://thomas.savage.org/grossercertificate.jpg
Tom
Dave Wakin wrote:
Anyone know a trick to get the darn thing loose? I am assuming Mercedes make
a socket that fits it better then my oil filter socket - Rusty, can you get
such a thing?
103 589 02 09 00 It was under $20 a few years ago. Works a treat.
Tom
Zach wrote:
I sold a euro warning triangle holder latch thingie to some guy on
eBay, now he wants the triangle too but I dont have one to sell him.
Anyone who wants to make a few bucks email me offlist and I will hook
you up.
I think the part # is 126 890 0014. Check Rusty or your local MB p
Christopher McCann wrote:
saw a pic of a parade in NK with, I think, THREE 600 Limos.
Tyrants and despots generally tend to have excellent taste in cars. The
Kim supposedly has 20 or so in his bunker, which is maybe the largest
such collection in the world. Idi Amin, Ceausescu, Mswati, Pol
Howard Fulford wrote:
On 3 Apr 2007 Hendrik Riessen wrote:
"Please be seeing 126 and another capitalistic car in picture with beautiful
traffic lady wearing huge hat."
Yes - only a huge hat and a white painted circle as protection against what
will undoubtedly become rush-hour traffic at some p
http://www.tema.ru/travel/choson-4/_MG_0322.jpg
Rick Knoble wrote:
http://stlouis.craigslist.org/car/301778505.html
Wow. This car seems to be more "black market" than "gray market."
Doesn't appear to have a DOT tag in the door jamb, metric
instrumentation, fire extinguisher still under the seat. Very cool.
Wonder what its story is.
Pr
Alex Chamberlain wrote:
Really? There sure were manual 126 sedans, I've seen one (though it was a
twin-cam 280, I think). I'm surprised they wouldn't have made a stick 126
coupe for at least some non-US markets.
Only the six-banger 126 was available with a stick and all the SECs had
V8s. M
Terry Geiger wrote:
This 500 SEC is gray market with 5 speed manual. I bet it likes fuel.
Hi Terry,
Mercedes, alas, never made such a car, though it is possible someone has
taken it upon themselves to rectify MB's oversight with this one. More
likely that someone stuck a 500SEC badge on a 28
Rich Thomas wrote:
That is just wrong.
But I notice too that the look is what is known as "donked" where you
jack up an old Chebbie and put some big wheels on it with a garish paint
job and do something to the doors. I saw a bunch of Donks (and Boxes
and Bubbles) last week in KY, seems to be
I seem to recall someone on the list (Mitch?) mentioning that they had a
190E 16v parts car. Would you please contact me off-list?
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Thanks,
Tom
Alex Chamberlain wrote:
I know some people here (Levi?) have experience with Subarus. Is there any
good mailing list, web forum, etc. out there? The only ones I can find with
a quick Google search seem devoted to souping up WRX models. My
girlfriend's '98 Legacy has a slipping transmission
I
Christopher McCann wrote:
http://images.google.de/imgres?imgurl=http://erdgasfahrzeuge.harzenergie.de/ContentFilesMantel/Bilder_Fahrzeuge/muellfahrzeug_gr.jpg&imgrefurl=http://erdgasfahrzeuge.harzenergie.de/Content.aspx%3Fmpid%3D53%26ch%3D3&h=168&w=267&sz=17&hl=de&start=1&tbnid=4uwL8l00shkFEM:&tb
Tony Wirtel wrote:
Tom-
Yea but...if you compare inspection in PA to NY, NY is a joke. At
least that was the case when I was there 6 years ago.
When I moved to Mississippi in 1996 and went to get my Grand Prix
inspected, the guy at the counter just said "Five dollars." I gave it
to him, he
V Layton wrote:
What do you mean, not the apparent long-out-of-production holy grail of
euro lenses do you? The closest I've ever come is a car that was
originally equipped with them and lost in the Federale-ization.
Like these:
http://roger.klimke.free.fr/cariboost1/crbst_10120.jpg
I think
Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:
Dont forget, your used parts purchases from Okiebenz are what funds this
list.
You should put a bunch of cheap parts on St Louis craigslist for cheep
and I'll buy them from you on impulse like I did this last lot. As it
is I call you when I need something, but when I
V Layton wrote:
PS My Club IS cooking along, (too much too fast actually, but
nonetheless exhilerating for me) and we have 3 events planned in St.
Louis this year, I don't know if anyone cares to be updated on my
progress, I don't want to be a pest...
I care! :)
Wish I'd have known you we
Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:
Anybody got any good info on properly setting up and
adjusting these dual zenith carbs?
I don't know anything about those beasts, either, but you should know,
especially given the provenance of that car, who has all the answers:
http://jaimekop.com/CarbManual/
Tom
I finally got a chance to throw my multimeter at the finny today. There
was quite a bit of corrosion on the exposed parts of the resistor links
and glow plugs preventing consistent readings as to where all the volts
were going, so I just pulled the plugs and checked their resistances
individua
Marshall Booth wrote:
I would certainly suggest a water sequestering agent in fuel that's been
setting for months or years. Once the water is bound, the algae dies and
there's no need for a separate algaecide (or you can drain the fuel -
that's the most complex, but safest solution).
Old die
Thanks for all the tips, guys. I didn't get a chance to work on it
yesterday, but should be able to get to it in the coming week. I'm
hopeful that it won't have any problems with algae. The car has been in
climate controlled storage all this time; last spring I revived an '83
300D that had b
I'm going to attempt to resurrect a '65 190Dc in the next week or so.
The car is unbelievably clean and all original but hasn't been run in
many years. I'm not familiar with these older diesels and have only
looked at the car for about five minutes so far but have confirmed that
the glow plugs
Trampas wrote:
I have always said it is more than just the car, it is if the owner can
afford the maintenance. I have seen a 1970 Oldsmobile go well over 350k
miles. I have seen Ford Escorts with 200k miles. Generally it all comes down
to keeping the car repaired and maintained. Most people that
Chris Kueny wrote:
My 1985 300TD has a noise coming from the rear, which I had my indy 'fix' last
year. It has the following traits: It is clearly in time with speed, and
sounds like hammering. It is most pronounced on hard acceleration, goes almost
away while coasting, and if I decelerate,
Gary Hurst wrote:
i expect this sort of thing in places like san francisco. but the fact that
it has even taken over georgia is something to think about
Sorry to hear of your loss, Gary, and sorrier to hear another tale of
the apathy of those sworn "To Serve and Protect." But you should kno
Craig McCluskey wrote:
So, what's DRM?
Directly Reporting (all your secrets) to the Manufacturer (Microsoft)?
That's not far off, actually. Digital Restrictions Management:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_Rights_Management
Tom
Werner Fehlauer wrote:
IIRC, the Kemp museum outside of St. Louis has one of these. Must be a real
"clattering", sloooww beast, though. Putting your money into a new/used
Sprinter Class B motor home would probably cost less, and certainly be less
hassle!
(Catching up on old mail...)
Sadly,
Kevin wrote:
Anything different if the car seems to not be a US spec car? The timing chains
get upgraded the same year?
All the non-US/Canadia 3.8L engines had the double-row chain from the
start; the single-row chain was unique to the North American market in
an attempt to reduce internal fr
I've always liked this one: http://thomas.savage.org/plate.jpg
I was at an ALPCA meet once (http://www.alpca.org/ - yes there exist bigger
nerds than old diesel owners) and a guy had a display containing 3M TA3
plates from three different states.
Just yesterday I saw one you'd appreciate, Loren
Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:
yea, it works. I will find out more about it to see what it fits
What is the six-digit number? (ie, 717.400) The epc knows all OE
installations.
Tom
My old 344k miles 300D just started after two glow cycles at 16 degrees
F with a crankcase full of 15W40 conventional oil, marginal injectors, a
year-old valve adjustment, and a rack damper bolt that I'm pretty sure
is set in too far, after sitting outside for over a week. What a
fabulous car.
Craig McCluskey wrote:
I didn't see anything about this. Please explain. (I do know what you mean
by the "Blue Oval", it's the mortgaging the rights I'm curious about.)
New CEO Alan Mullaly has put nearly all of Ford's assets up as
collateral to finance its Way Forward turnaround program. Am
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
As a salesman I always ran these cars way over 200K miles. The first and
second generation 1986 to 1995 Taurus and Sables. Look at the mileage on
this one. 3.0 Liter was the better engine, no head
gasket problems. Tom Scordato
After several emails to the seller, s
In related news, Carrera GT meets telephone pole in NY:
http://www.elisetalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=31654
Tom
Sunil Hari wrote:
what's the problem?
Le probleme est elle est en France, alors. 300 euro pesos is a pretty
nice price for something so desirable and unobtanium on this side of the
pond.
Tom
With only one 5-speed
Only one small problem, though...
http://www.mercedesw123.info/forum/viewtopic.php?t=2356
D'oh!
Tom
Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:
Im thiking about trying out the month to see how it is and compares to
the installed version
It is pretty good; I've been using it for about a month. Not quite as
fast or as easy as the installed version and there are no prices listed,
but all models are there, you c
Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:
When they were brand new with warranty they could be had for that much.
Yeah, but when they were brand new you could go down to Jackie Cooper
and buy one in that condition in any color you wanted. Nowadays there
are perhaps only twenty left in the whole world in that
John Freer wrote:
Must be a Euro, look at the manual A/C and the vin wouldn't work.
Wonder if it is a turbo?
The correct VIN is WDB1231931F000701; it is a euro and a turbo. I don't
think it could be an '84, though, with serial #000701. I'm guessing
it's really an '81.
Tom
Gary Hurst wrote:
so one of the other guys came to shoot him. but he was ready. and the two
met to settle their difference. one was on one side of the 250 and the
other on the other side. they emptied their clips moving around my car.
both were hit and bleeding on the ground.
I love that s
Donald Snook wrote:
Is there any difference in aftermarket windshields or is all about the
installer?
Both. Make sure you get a name-brand replacement like PPG or Pilkington
and check with Scholfield to see where they send their windshield jobs.
If you're paying for it yourself, make sure
Rusty wrote:
Bringing anyone with you? A significant other maybe?
Why would I want to do a fool thing like that? Remember how much fun
Kaleb was when he was a skinny bachelor as compared to now? Besides,
you-know-who was the reason I missed the last 'Q.
Tom
Gary Hurst wrote:
you are not coming to the rustyQ, little tommy?
I am indeed, sir, now that I've realized that it is in fact on the 28th
and not the 21st. I guess my RSVP on Banned was a little low key.
Tom
A friend of mine has an '87 300SDL in need of new brake support/caster
joints. I've been under the car and it looks like the job can be done
with the coil springs in place, unlike the 123. Can it? If so, the job
looks pretty simple - any tricks or things to look out for?
Many thanks,
Tom
OK Don wrote:
Great pics! It doesn't look like you'd easily retrofit a US 198 with
Euro headlights!
Actually, that is a US car with euro lights. The roadster had different
headlight assemblies than the gullwing and the US/euro units interchange
just like any other MB.
Tom
Frank Pembleton wrote:
PS That's a great looking ashtray in your Gullwing!
Why thank you. I'm mighty proud of that dash; just finished installing
the gauges on Friday. And fit the hood properly.
We've decided against bothering with storage fees in favor of some new
data tags and a Belaru
Minimal MB content:
http://thomas.savage.org/pca/
Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:
I guess he is snubbing us then.
Speaking of which, has anyone heard from Dave M lately?
Tom
OK Don wrote:
Wow - that's cheap! The dealer in OKC wants a cool million for his ---
That's actually very high for that car. Even in those bad pictures, the
engine compartment is pretty messy and lacking all proper decals and
tags, the coil and ballast resistor are wrong, and the wiper moto
Joe Knight wrote:
Presumably the 'Nitrous Oxide Systems' sticker on the back of the convert is
more body art a la the phony tail pipes.
They're just for show.
Don't see any signs of plumbing
for same in what I take to be the engine compartment pic. What's with the
breather in that pic, any
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
<<.240D as performance art. Basically a very knowledgeable longtime
Mercedes fan owner interested only in function and cost.>>
Are you sure the owner didn't bring the car just to thumb his nose at the
rest?
The possibility was raised several times, but I think bot
Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:
So which one is vince?
I don't think I got a pic of him. Really nice guy, though.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> That Milan Brown 300D is a twin of my 300D although it's newer. Mine was
> cleaner, though.
Must have been one clean 300D, not that I doubt you, knowing your
Last weekend Vince Layton and Club 123D sponsored the first annual
All-123 car show. Nine cars in attendance, covering the spectrum from a
NOS 240D to a not-so-new 240D, a 300CD convertible, and a bunch of daily
drivers in between. I took a few pics of some of the more distinguished
attendees
Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:
That is possible Derail, whowever, they were grey market cars. There was
no US version 500SL in the 107 body.
I'm with Kaleb on this one - per John Olson's book "The SL Experience",
The 500SL (as well as the 280SL, 300SL, and 420SL) was never officially
imported to t
I had the opportunity to drive a W128 cabrio today. Imagine my delight
to discover that the ignition switch actually has a position labeled
"Fahrt." The other two were "Garage" and "Halte."
Tom,
Now wants a Ponton
Euan wrote:
Hi there colleagues
Were the W123 instrument clusters interchangeable? I'm looking at buying the
cluster from a 1982 280E, to replace my 1985 300TD cluster. One way of
fixing the bouncing speedo needle.
I guess if the cluster unit itself doesn't fit, the individual instruments
Sunil Hari wrote:
I take my broken keys to the dealer and they consistently give me new key
heads free of charge. Even they acknowledge that the quality has dropped.
I must have gotten one of the last of the "good" key heads when I last
replaced one in 2003 - still showing no sign of distres
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-200-Series-D-1968-EURO-DIESEL-MBZ-220D-FRESH-240D-MOTOR-NO-RESERVE_W0QQitemZ4649377275QQihZ002QQcategoryZ6329QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
He makes a big deal of it being a euro model, but the rad support says
491, making it a US model.
Tom
Vince, George, and any other St Louisans out there,
Bentley of St Louis is sponsoring a European Auto Show this Sunday from
11:00-3:00 at Plaza Frontenac, to benefit Shriners Hospital. I'll be
there for most of the show with the Kemp Museum and a '54 Gullwing. It
would make a nice venue to m
Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:
Yes, the CA uses the 722.4, and I THINK, but am not sure, that you can
use one out of a 190. In any event, the 85 version 722.3 can be used in
place of the CA 722.4
Oh really? This is good to hear. So an OM60x has the same bellhousing
as an OM 61x? Does the 201 tr
Marshall Booth wrote:
The earlier 722.3 transmissions will work on '85 cars, but the '85 722.3
transmission won't fit onto an earlier car/engine. I'm NOT sure about
the 722.416 transmissions from '85 California certified 300D/TD/CD/SDs,
but they do have a high stall speed torque converters and
A friend's brother has an '85 300D from California with 240k miles and
an apparently toasted transmission. I know 1985 was an odd year for the
300D/SD and even wierder for those models sold in the California
Republic. It is my understanding that Federal-spec '85s used the good
old 722.3 trans
or, "How to ruin a 140"
http://youtube.com/watch?v=jSdmiYIRGwo
http://youtube.com/watch?v=ZBjodvyXBsE
Tom
andrew strasfogel wrote:
Thalidomide babies were born w/o limbs so they should not be called
amputees.
I know. It is a quote from our own erstwhile Richarde Sexton (probably
purloined from P.J. O'Rourke); the back seat in a 107 is "good only for
Thalidomide amputees."
Tom
George Gregory wrote:
Dogtown is good, but considering where you work, I had you figured for a
Maryland Heights type of guy.
I'm glad I was wrong on that, though.
But why live in the City? It's a hellhole.
I still have to drive to Chesterfield and Edwardsville most days, too,
so a somewhat
George Gregory wrote:
Never in the world would I have you picked as a CWE type.
I'm more the type who is tired of driving 100 miles a day and paying too
much to live in a cornfield. But I concluded this weekend that as I'm
not a Thalidomide amputee I fit into neither the back seat of a 450SL
V Layton wrote:
Hi Folks! and Tom,
There were too many schedule conflicts for yesterday, so all those
signed up have agreed on a new nate, June 10th (saturday) I hope this
frees you up Tom, and of course anyone with a W123 can join the festivites.
Hi Vince,
Hopefully I'll be able to make
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/05/24/AR2006052402362.html
Tom
Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:
Really? Why would that be?
Because garages kill cars.
Right off the bat, the brakes are FUBAR, the fuel tank is full of rust,
the fuel system is full of Minwax, and everything rubber needs to be
replaced. Since "storage" translates as "in a shed in humid Arkansas,"
George Gregory wrote:
Most clubs and organizations of this type try to get as many participants as
possible INCLUDED which is the opposite of your policy of EXCLUDING.
You just haven't been the same since you went Hollywood and forsook your
diesel, George. :) Fortunately some us are still k
David Brodbeck wrote:
It's so clean, the Virgin Mary herself would be honored to reach in and
change the fuel filter.
I recently resurrected an '83 300D that is nearly as clean as that one
(minus all the used car spray'n'shine). 148k miles and not a single
scratch, dent, or speck of rust; j
Zeitgeist wrote:
I know I'll probably be hunted down and shot for suggesting this, but
I've often thought it would be fun to put together a 170D or 180D
street rod with the full Finnish Super Turbo setup and complete W124
suspension and running gear undercarriage treatment. That would be
one un
hue wong wrote:
Hi all!
I have always loved these older mercedes.
Does anyone have any idea how hard it might be to
round up parts (engine and tranny and I suspect other
type of suspension and such will be needed) or if
another type of engine would bolt in?
Hi Hue,
I believe the W187 used th
Mike Canfield wrote:
So what is the real name of them? A # like most MB's?
I think officially they were marketed only as model names like every
other MB until the advent of the /8 "Strichacht" w114/w115 in 1968.
"S-Class" wasn't used until the the w116 and the silly notion of
assigning ever
Bob Rentfro wrote:
I think they are supposed to, but they could just go buy new eyes. Seems
like there is metric butt-loads of moola flowing around thereand I bet
you and I helped pay for some of those sweet rides with the $3.199 #2 we're
buying lately.
I'm only contributing at $2.75/gal
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Doesn't $3500 seem awfully cheap? Might there be something wrong with it??
You mean like it needs an evaporator, wiring harness, and head removal
because a glowplug is broken off in the head? Perish the thought!
It is very cheap. I sent the guy an email; if it is
Zoltan Finks wrote:
Yes, that was me - the originator of this twisty thread.
Actually, to me, Candy-Apple Red is not the same as the Cherry red on the CD
in question here. Candy-Apple is a deep *metallic* red that has a very
distinctive look - can be very impressive. Although I must admit that a
Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:
you bought new springs? I bet those were expensive? Uses ones would
have been much cheaper Im sure.
I thought very briefly about used, but needed them ASAP and figured used
ones would be as bad as the springs I took out. I don't remember the
cost, but it wasn't mu
L. Mark Finch wrote:
I have no plans to tackle this repair on my own, but would be
interested in any theories as to what the hell happened.
123 springs are known to break sometimes, after a couple million
compressions and a couple million salty winters. I don't think I've
ever heard of one
Jim Cathey wrote:
Cars for sale are prefectly fine.
Even Fords? (Sorry, couldn't resist, and thanks for all the fish.)
Good one. It took a second, but...
Anyway, where do Fords figure into this? I thought we were talking
about cars?
Tom
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Every Honda and it's ilk are silver. I go to the MB dealer and the lot is
full of silver, gray and the occasional black.
Boooring!
Indeed. The w123 was available in 62 colors over its production run.
The w203 is available in nine - white, two blacks, three grays, t
Hendrik Riessen wrote:
http://www.caraudiodiscount.com/acatalog/becker_navigation_bluetooth.html
Oh man is that cool. Not as cool as the Panasonic CQ TX5500, but cool
nonetheless.
http://www.audiocubes.com/images/f_panasonic_cqtx5500d.jpg
Tom
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Stop saying Cummings.
God bless you.
Tom
Craig McCluskey wrote:
We had an '89 Grand Caravan that started leaking transmission fluid around
'92 or so. I took it to a local independent to have the pan gasket
replaced, but then decided to take it to the dealer. They completely
rebuilt the transmission at no charge.
The old three-speed a
Rich Thomas wrote:
/*Question? */-- on my diesel I read of the B2 piston and vac problems
leading to shift problems. Does the SL have this same setup?
I'm afraid I have little advice to offer but to say that the 722.0
tranny in a 450SL doesn't have a B2 piston. B2 was only used in 722.3,
I met a guy today who owns a '73 280SEL M130 that's been taking up space
for too long and that he'll never get around to doing anything with. It
hasn't been run in maybe 15 years and is eaten up with midwestern rust.
He says it ran like a top when he parked it after the floor pan gave
way an
John Berryman wrote:
Hey Y'all,
I've been meaning to share a tool tip with you folks for quite some
time now. I'm pulling the IC out of a 201 using 2 of the paint can
openers with round bottle opener. The business end is like a bent
over screwdriver tip and the bottle opener end provides a
Jim Cathey wrote:
But I believe that all one usually does is to pinch off the rubber
fuel line from the tank with vise-grips. Gently!
That's what I do, anticipating replacing the hoses every time. They're
often hardened by age and will leak when pinched. But the hose is cheap
and if it ca
Sunil Hari wrote:
If it's $26/L in singapore, wouldn't it be cheaper to buy 4-5 gallons via
phone from Rusty or someone in the US, then have it shipped to Singapore?
Or better, become Singapore's discount Mobil distributor ...
Sort of, I guess if you really wanted oil. Part of it is that ther
Curt Raymond wrote:
Gang,
My wife and I were down in Connecticut last weekend for a retirement party. On the way home we stopped at the Mohegan Sun casino. On the way out of there we stopped at the gas station to use the bathroom (not to fuel up at $3.48!) and I noticed among the way over p
Zoltan Finks wrote:
Ohh, that sucks, Tom. Sorry to see that. Hope you can enjoy the 333,333 mark
anyway. I always wonder about those pieces of semi tread. One more reason I
don't ride a motorcycle anymore.
I always wondered about them, too. But now I know. I am immensely
enjoying the big ski
My car just turned 333,333 miles. Most people would take a picture to
celebrate. Alas, I did this instead: http://thomas.savage.org/smashed.jpg
Big piece of flying semi tire tread. Hey Kaleb, how much for a new
wiper arm assembly?
Be careful out there,
Tom
Jeff Zedic wrote:
If you can read French then you'll see that the two round lights are
what came on the "bottom of the range" W123's. I always thoght they were
just the earlier lights.
They are both. Originally the "square" Bosch lights were fitted only to
the 280s (and maybe the lesser mod
Craig McCluskey wrote:
I have seen some odometer palindromes recently:
I'll see one this evening: 333,333
Tom
'82 300D 333,297
...Or not. It only has half as many switches as it needs. In the Dr
Dre era before 26" spinners and before underbody neon lights, this was
the ultimate street machine:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=4629145179
Tom
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