Re: [MBZ] Hot under the collar
Has the thermostat been tested to confirm it's working properly? It seems that thermostats can fail early. Also if the radiator is old, it could be partially blocked. What are the hose temps coming out of the radiator? I have the opposite problem insofar that the TE won't get past 80 much, should sit at about 82. May well have to pull the thermostat to see if it is operating as it should. Anyway we made it to Queensland and I am sitting here in shorts and T shirt. We saw that Russian sattelite break up while we where in Cobar http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/jul/11/australian-meteorite-most-likely-part-of-russian-satellite was pretty specky. Hendrik who was advised by the NSW highway patrol as to what the speed limit is On Sat, Jul 12, 2014 at 9:33 AM, Jim Cathey jim.cathey...@gmail.com wrote: I forget, have you given it a citric acid flush? -- Jim On Fri, Jul 11, 2014 at 12:38 PM, clay redgh...@comcast.net wrote: Froggy is having inconsistent cooling issues. I was taking her for an italian tune up this past weekend. I meant to climb the foothills of the Cascades about 32 miles out of town (seattle) doing 70mph. I made it only 22 miles before I had to pull off because the temp was climbing up to the red zone. Got to a service station and drizzled a gallon of water over the block and rad to get temp down. I decided to head back home and give it a better look. No visible leakage. The system was holding pressure fine. I checked the oil for water, but only found it to be black and nasty. This within 500 miles of a change. I am suspecting the shop did not really change the oil. So, I gave it all new oil. Thermostat was changed, along with new hoses and water pump last summer. The AC does not function, so that should have no impact on temps. I have replaced the hood pad, and there are no cats living in the engine bay to add to the heat soaking. Transmission filter and fluids were change two years ago, about 2k miles. Anybody have insight? clay 2002 s430 - Victor, a Stately well tailored chap 1974 450sl - Frosch - Two tone green 1972 220D - Gump - She was green, simple and ran 1995 E300D - Gave her life to save me against a Dame in a SUV POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
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http://www.pieffepivision.com/cm/ziqm.kqdm Hendrik Riessen 4/7/2013 7:26:31 AM ybm 4/7/2013 7:26:31 AM Hendrik Riessen ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] ADMIN, mail bounces again
Just what you need on your birthday Hendrik who has ceased to have b days, I am actually getting younger From: Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net To: mercedes Mailing List mercedes@okiebenz.com; Banned List ban...@okiebenz.com Sent: Sun, 25 April, 2010 12:56:27 PM Subject: [MBZ] ADMIN, mail bounces again I think there is something going on with our host. They did some changing around the other day, and the list was down for almost a day for some reason. Since then I have been getting more than the normal amount of subscribers having their subscriptions disabled due to bounces. At first today I thought it was limited to earthlink and pacbell, but now I am seeing comcast and a whole bunch of others. In fact, I am even seeing gmail kicking messages back. So I guess there is somethign screwed up somewhere. I have a ticket in so will hopefully get it fixed soon. -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 95 E300, 92 500SEL, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 350SDL, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Off the topic: Australiana
I usually have a pocket knife along with a screwdriver, tape measure, electrical tape...ahhh hang on this is starting to sound strange, anyway I carry bits and pieces in my pocket that come in useful for work and a pocket knife can be classed as an offensive weapon and possession of an offensive weapon on licensed premises is a no no. Hendrik who is not some sort of weirdo outback tourist killerhonest From: John Reames jwrea...@comcast.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sat, 24 April, 2010 3:53:17 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Off the topic: Australiana Well... Umm were you going to open boxes perhaps? -- John W Reames jwrea...@comcast.net Home: +14106646986 Mobile: +14437915905 On Apr 24, 2010, at 0:39, Hendrik Riessen mb82u13...@yahoo.com.au wrote: Well yeah that's right, carrying a knife is now illegal unless you have a lawful excuse to do so. Technically if I am in a pub with my pocket knife in my pocket I am breaking the law. Hendrik who is trying to fit into a modern PC world, with some success (not in jail.yet) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Off the topic: Australiana
I am not kidding, I am trying to be reasonably PC. Hendrik From: Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sat, 24 April, 2010 8:08:32 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Off the topic: Australiana You're kidding, right? --R On 4/24/2010 12:39 AM, Hendrik Riessen wrote: Well yeah that's right, carrying a knife is now illegal unless you have a lawful excuse to do so. Technically if I am in a pub with my pocket knife in my pocket I am breaking the law. Hendrik who is trying to fit into a modern PC world, with some success (not in jail.yet) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] a favour (that's how the Queen spells it)
Well I have had a look around at my ISP website and found that they do have some sort of anti spam filter in place, I disabled it and will see if that fixes it? Unless my old email address heni...@ozemail.com.au has been disconnected from the MBZ list. Hendrik From: Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tue, 13 April, 2010 8:29:12 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] a favour (that's how the Queen spells it) Hendrik Riessen wrote: It seems that the problem is with mail from okiebenz to my main email address at heni...@ozemail.com.au seems to be working fine with this yahoo email address. I am getting other mail on the henifay addy, so I don't know why exactly this happening. I tried swapping over to windows (which runs on a separate hard drive) and that made no difference, tried a different email program (kmail), using the web mail on my ISP website but nothing seems to be able to get mail from okie to henifay happening. I bet your email provider is using a filter, probably the Cisco one, that kills all mail from the server that the lists are on. Randy Bennell had that problem a week before it hit you, and his bounce messages to Kleb gave a link to Cisco's ratings site, which at the time rated the server as Poor. (The last time I checked, it had been upgraded to Neutral) Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Off the topic: Australiana
Well yeah that's right, carrying a knife is now illegal unless you have a lawful excuse to do so. Technically if I am in a pub with my pocket knife in my pocket I am breaking the law. Hendrik who is trying to fit into a modern PC world, with some success (not in jail.yet) From: Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wed, 14 April, 2010 11:14:15 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Off the topic: Australiana Americans love Crocidile Dundee, because it is like a modern Davey Crockett. Most Americans have never heard of Davey Crockett, but DO know about Crocadile Dundee. The spirit of freedom and independence, and the yearning for the same is in every human. Thus the popularity of Dundee, Start Wars and the like. It sounds like the OZ of old, where men are men and all citizens are free and independent is even further down the UK/France sewer of wimpification, PC and socialist rubbish than we are. Dundee movies VERY popular. We really like Crocodile Dundee; even I like him, especially when uses lines such as, That's not a knife; THIS is a knife. Wilton - Original Message - From: Hendrik Fay heni...@ozemail.com.au To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 2010 4:26 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Off the topic: Australiana Hi Alex Finally got round to responding, apologies for the delay don't know if this will get through due to email issues - as you all know. There is definitely a gremlin in the system that H can't find. I've never heard of the Outback steakhouse (emigrated here 22 years ago from NZ) have been to Broken Hill where Mad Max Movies were made. Yes it was tragic what happened to Steve Irwin but in my opinion he was the most irritating human being to come out of Oz. Georgia (daughter) would like to know if any of you have heard of: Dame Edna Everage or Norman Gunstan and how popular were the Crocodile Dundee (Paul Hogan) Movies in the US. The team have to do a skit at the FPS conference on Australia. Have to agree why couldn't they have got an actual Aussie actor to do the voice over for Outback Steakhouse commerical's there are plenty of them in the US - that's shameful. Fay Yup. Outback Steakhouse, Steve Irwin, and the Mad Max movies pretty much sum up all the average American knows about Australia, I think. Having been to Oz and heard some really thick accents there, especially in Tasmania, I wince every time an Outback commercial comes on the TV---couldn't they have gotten an actual Aussie actor to do the voiceover, instead of an American trying (and failing pitifully) to do the accent? Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] (SPAM?) Re: Off the topic: Australiana
Well your half educated then Hendrik From: Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wed, 14 April, 2010 11:28:20 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] (SPAM?) Re: Off the topic: Australiana Georgia (daughter) would like to know if any of you have heard of: Dame Edna Everage or Norman Gunstan and how popular were the Crocodile Dundee (Paul Hogan) Movies in the US. The team have to do a skit at the FPS conference on Australia. Dame Edna and Dundee, yes. The others, no. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] RARE Mercedes Wagon W123 Roof Rack Bars.....and Luggage Cover/Dog Gate - $350
They are not really designed as a dog gate, more as a safety net for when you got stuff piled up back there, I tried it as a dog gate after I found one for S124, you know what, it took my Jack Russel (who is celebrating his third birthday today) all of 5 seconds to get around that 'dog gate'. Hendrik who paid AUD 100 for a SH luggage cover/cargo net but it was the wrong colour and I still have one for a S123 From: LWB250 lwb...@yahoo.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sat, 17 April, 2010 7:57:40 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] RARE Mercedes Wagon W123 Roof Rack Bars.and Luggage Cover/Dog Gate - $350 Heck, I would just pull a Kaleb, buy them and turn around and put them on eBay. People still pay stupid money for these. Dan --- On Fri, 4/16/10, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: From: Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net Subject: Re: [MBZ] RARE Mercedes Wagon W123 Roof Rack Bars.and Luggage Cover/Dog Gate - $350 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Friday, April 16, 2010, 5:22 PM It would probably double the value of my TD, so not really something I need. --R On 4/16/2010 4:54 PM, LWB250 wrote: I would jump on this - the roll up cargo cover was a $1000 option when new. I tried for years to find one when I had a 123 wagon Dan --- On Fri, 4/16/10, Rich Thomasrichthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: From: Rich Thomasrichthomas79td...@constructivity.net Subject: [MBZ] RARE Mercedes Wagon W123 Roof Rack Bars.and Luggage Cover/Dog Gate - $350 To: Mercedes Discussion Listmercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Friday, April 16, 2010, 9:37 AM http://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/1694687648.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1989 Mercedes 300SE Brake weirdness
It affects the nut holding onto the steering wheel. Hendrik who is a big nut From: Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310 meade.m.dil...@navy.mil To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Fri, 23 April, 2010 2:12:43 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1989 Mercedes 300SE Brake weirdness How does ABS do more harm than good? Not arguing, trying to learn the limitations of a system I have on three cars. -Max -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Jim Cathey Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2010 10:12 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1989 Mercedes 300SE Brake weirdness I really don't understand why you don't just fix it. It's a safety system with proven worth - why not repair it? Except on loose surfaces, where ABS can actually do more harm than good. (Such as fresh snow or slush, or gravel, or [like the road immediately outside our driveway] a steep gravel road often covered in fresh snow or slush!) ABS is nice enough, but once it starts acting up so that you can no longer trust the brakes, and the easy/obvious repair attempts don't work, then I say that I'd rather disable it than mistrust the brakes, or dump thousands for new ABS parts into a car that cost less than that in the first place. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Off the topic: Australiana
You'd wanna be careful using the term 'coonskin' down under. Although we have coon cheese and it ain't black either. Hendrik From: Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thu, 15 April, 2010 9:11:59 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Off the topic: Australiana Yessir! THat'd be a coonskin cap. Rich folk wore raccoon coats and hats. Frontiersmen wore a coonskin cap I used to watch Davy Crockett when I was a kid. It was a pretty popular show in NZ. He wore a racoon hat didn't he? From: Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wed, 14 April, 2010 11:14:15 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Off the topic: Australiana Americans love Crocidile Dundee, because it is like a modern Davey Crockett. Most Americans have never heard of Davey Crockett, but DO know about Crocadile Dundee. The spirit of freedom and independence, and the yearning for the same is in every human. Thus the popularity of Dundee, Start Wars and the like. It sounds like the OZ of old, where men are men and all citizens are free and independent is even further down the UK/France sewer of wimpification, PC and socialist rubbish than we are. Dundee movies VERY popular. We really like Crocodile Dundee; even I like him, especially when uses lines such as, That's not a knife; THIS is a knife. Wilton - Original Message - From: Hendrik Fay heni...@ozemail.com.au To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 2010 4:26 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Off the topic: Australiana Hi Alex Finally got round to responding, apologies for the delay don't know if this will get through due to email issues - as you all know. There is definitely a gremlin in the system that H can't find. I've never heard of the Outback steakhouse (emigrated here 22 years ago from NZ) have been to Broken Hill where Mad Max Movies were made. Yes it was tragic what happened to Steve Irwin but in my opinion he was the most irritating human being to come out of Oz. Georgia (daughter) would like to know if any of you have heard of: Dame Edna Everage or Norman Gunstan and how popular were the Crocodile Dundee (Paul Hogan) Movies in the US. The team have to do a skit at the FPS conference on Australia. Have to agree why couldn't they have got an actual Aussie actor to do the voice over for Outback Steakhouse commerical's there are plenty of them in the US - that's shameful. Fay Yup. Outback Steakhouse, Steve Irwin, and the Mad Max movies pretty much sum up all the average American knows about Australia, I think. Having been to Oz and heard some really thick accents there, especially in Tasmania, I wince every time an Outback commercial comes on the TV---couldn't they have gotten an actual Aussie actor to do the voiceover, instead of an American trying (and failing pitifully) to do the accent? Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Testing 123
Is this working or dodgy like my mail thingy? Hendrik who is also a bit dodgy From: Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net To: mercedes Mailing List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tue, 20 April, 2010 11:16:45 AM Subject: [MBZ] ADMIN List was down most of the day today, if you have sent any mail to the list, please resend so it will get posted. Thanks -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 95 E300, 92 500SEL, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 350SDL, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] It's getting close to ANZAC day...........lest we forget
Subject: Fw: well said, sir You will enjoy reading these... Makes you think eh. Secretary of State, Dean Rusk, was in France in the early 60's when DeGaulle decided to pull out of NATO. DeGaulle said he wanted all US military out of France as soon as possible. Rusk responded Does that include those who are buried here? DeGaulle did not respond. You could have heard a pin drop ~~ There was a conference in France where a number of international engineers were taking part, including French and American. During a break, one of the French engineers came back into the room saying 'Have you heard the latest dumb stunt Bush has done? He has sent an aircraft carrier to Indonesia to help the tsunami victims. What does he intended to do, bomb them?' A Boeing engineer stood up and replied quietly: 'Our carriers have three hospitals on board that can treat several hundred people; they are nuclear powered and can supply emergency electrical power to shore facilities; they have three cafeterias with the capacity to feed 3,000 people three meals a day They can produce several thousand gallons of fresh water from sea water each day, and they carry half a dozen helicopters for use in transporting victims and injured to and from their flight deck. We have eleven such ships. How many does France have? ' You could have heard a pin drop. ~~ A U.S. Navy Admiral was attending a naval conference that included Admirals from the U.S. , English, Canadian, Australian and French navies. At a cocktail reception, he found himself standing with a large group of Officers that included personnel from most of those countries everyone was chatting away in English as they sipped their drinks. A French admiral suddenly complained that, whereas Europeans learn many languages, Americans learn only English. He then asked, 'Why is it that we always have to speak English in these conferences rather than speaking French?' Without hesitating, the American Admiral replied, 'Maybe it's because the Brit's, Canadians, Aussie's and Americans arranged it so you wouldn't have to speak German.' You could have heard a pin drop. ~~ AND THIS STORY FITS RIGHT IN WITH THE ABOVE... Robert Whiting, an elderly gentleman of 83, arrived in Paris by plane. At French Customs, he took a few minutes to locate his passport in his carry on. You have been to France before, monsieur? the customs officer asked sarcastically. Mr. Whiting admitted that he had been to France previously. Then you should know enough to have your passport ready. The American said, 'The last time I was here, I didn't have to show it. Impossible. Americans always have to show your passports on arrival in France ! The American senior gave the Frenchman a long hard look. Then he quietly explained, ''Well, when I came ashore at Omaha Beach on D-Day in 1944 to help liberate this country, I couldn't find a single Frenchmen to show a passport to. You could have heard a pin drop. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1989 Mercedes 300SE Brake weirdness
Pull the ABS relay (under the black cover that says ABS) and see if the problem is still happening. The ABS system will give a short test pulse when you first take off and Kaleb is right, dirty or inoperative sensors will play havoc but the symptoms I had was that there where a few test pulses and then after a few hundred meters the ABS light would come on. Not sure about the 126 chassis but I know that 201 sensors will fit in a 124. Hendrik whose 124 has 201 ABS sensors out the front From: Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tue, 20 April, 2010 10:04:21 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1989 Mercedes 300SE Brake weirdness that is the abs operating. If you were on dry pavement and not slipping, then the wheel sensors are probably dirty. Kathmandu wrote: Hello folks, I have some weird happinins' going on with my brakes on my 300SE. It has ABS on it and I have little experience with it in general as I have avoided the things purposely on all cars I've had until the Mercedes. I am reasonable competent in the mechanics area and I have worked on brakes before but this is new to me. Yesterday when driving home from Wally World the brakes started an odd pulsing when coming to a moderate stop. It is usually just before the car comes to a full stop, maybe a second or so. The pedal pulses up (not a softening of the pedal like a master cylinder problem) and the front brakes make a sort of twang sound like a spring vibrating. It doesn't affect the stopping ability, doesn't grab, pull to a side or anything and it only affects the front brakes as far as I can tell. Doesn't do it every time I stop nor has it done it in reverse. I have checked the brake fluid and I put the car on ramps and inspected the brake system for obvious problems like fluid leaks or loose parts and I've found nothing wrong with the brakes visually. I checked for any other problems with the suspension while I was there and didn't find anything amiss. It's almost like as I'm coming to a stop the fluid suddenly expands or the volume increases firming the pedal for a fraction of a second then returns to normal. No warning lights are on and the pads are in good shape, the rotors are less than a year old. I'm gonna pull the tires off tomorrow if it doesn't rain and have a closer look but I'm betting it's some ABS module flakiness. Any help would be appreciated. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.801 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2822 - Release Date: 04/20/10 01:31:00 -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 95 E300, 92 500SEL, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 350SDL, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Off the topic: Australiana
Thanks Wilton. 'That's not a knife is Georgia's favorite line to she is hoping they can put it in to the skit they have to do From: WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wed, 14 April, 2010 10:55:23 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Off the topic: Australiana Dundee movies VERY popular. We really like Crocodile Dundee; even I like him, especially when uses lines such as, That's not a knife; THIS is a knife. Wilton - Original Message - From: Hendrik Fay heni...@ozemail.com.au To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 2010 4:26 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Off the topic: Australiana Hi Alex Finally got round to responding, apologies for the delay don't know if this will get through due to email issues - as you all know. There is definitely a gremlin in the system that H can't find. I've never heard of the Outback steakhouse (emigrated here 22 years ago from NZ) have been to Broken Hill where Mad Max Movies were made. Yes it was tragic what happened to Steve Irwin but in my opinion he was the most irritating human being to come out of Oz. Georgia (daughter) would like to know if any of you have heard of: Dame Edna Everage or Norman Gunstan and how popular were the Crocodile Dundee (Paul Hogan) Movies in the US. The team have to do a skit at the FPS conference on Australia. Have to agree why couldn't they have got an actual Aussie actor to do the voice over for Outback Steakhouse commerical's there are plenty of them in the US - that's shameful. Fay Yup. Outback Steakhouse, Steve Irwin, and the Mad Max movies pretty much sum up all the average American knows about Australia, I think. Having been to Oz and heard some really thick accents there, especially in Tasmania, I wince every time an Outback commercial comes on the TV---couldn't they have gotten an actual Aussie actor to do the voiceover, instead of an American trying (and failing pitifully) to do the accent? Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Off the topic: Australiana
I used to watch Davy Crockett when I was a kid. It was a pretty popular show in NZ. He wore a racoon hat didn't he? From: Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wed, 14 April, 2010 11:14:15 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Off the topic: Australiana Americans love Crocidile Dundee, because it is like a modern Davey Crockett. Most Americans have never heard of Davey Crockett, but DO know about Crocadile Dundee. The spirit of freedom and independence, and the yearning for the same is in every human. Thus the popularity of Dundee, Start Wars and the like. It sounds like the OZ of old, where men are men and all citizens are free and independent is even further down the UK/France sewer of wimpification, PC and socialist rubbish than we are. Dundee movies VERY popular. We really like Crocodile Dundee; even I like him, especially when uses lines such as, That's not a knife; THIS is a knife. Wilton - Original Message - From: Hendrik Fay heni...@ozemail.com.au To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 2010 4:26 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Off the topic: Australiana Hi Alex Finally got round to responding, apologies for the delay don't know if this will get through due to email issues - as you all know. There is definitely a gremlin in the system that H can't find. I've never heard of the Outback steakhouse (emigrated here 22 years ago from NZ) have been to Broken Hill where Mad Max Movies were made. Yes it was tragic what happened to Steve Irwin but in my opinion he was the most irritating human being to come out of Oz. Georgia (daughter) would like to know if any of you have heard of: Dame Edna Everage or Norman Gunstan and how popular were the Crocodile Dundee (Paul Hogan) Movies in the US. The team have to do a skit at the FPS conference on Australia. Have to agree why couldn't they have got an actual Aussie actor to do the voice over for Outback Steakhouse commerical's there are plenty of them in the US - that's shameful. Fay Yup. Outback Steakhouse, Steve Irwin, and the Mad Max movies pretty much sum up all the average American knows about Australia, I think. Having been to Oz and heard some really thick accents there, especially in Tasmania, I wince every time an Outback commercial comes on the TV---couldn't they have gotten an actual Aussie actor to do the voiceover, instead of an American trying (and failing pitifully) to do the accent? Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Off the topic: Australiana
Good point. We have an inflatable knife that we thought could be used. Fay From: Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thu, 15 April, 2010 9:22:46 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Off the topic: Australiana Hendrik Riessen wrote: Thanks Wilton. 'That's not a knife is Georgia's favorite line to she is hoping they can put it in to the skit they have to do Can you still take a cardboard replica of a knife into an 'educational' institution in the USA without getting arrested? Mitch. (who is implying that you don't even think of taking a 14 Bowie in there) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Off the topic: Australiana
Thanks Phillip, that info helps enormously - Crocodile Dundee was made in the 80's - way before my children's time. I guess my kids only know of the movies cos of the re runs on tv every year around Christmas I thought a few of you might of heard of Dame Edna, but suspected Norman Gunstan would be a long shot. Fay From: Fmiser fmi...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thu, 15 April, 2010 2:02:48 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Off the topic: Australiana Hendrik Fay wrote: Georgia (daughter) would like to know if any of you have heard of: Dame Edna Everage or Norman Gunstan and how popular were the Crocodile Dundee (Paul Hogan) Movies in the US. The team have to do a skit at the FPS conference on Australia. Interesting you should ask. Last weekend I was with a bunch of high school and collage aged kids and made reference to Paul Hogan, (That's not a knife. This is a knife!). Blank looks. I said. That from the movie Crocodile Dundee. No one had heard of it. So at least with that group it would not do so well. *smile* Regarding Edna Everage or Noramn Gunston - I rather doubt the average person in the USA has any clue who they are. -- Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Facebooking
Long as you know how to time the injection pump. Did ya get my email the other day? We seem to be experiencing some technical difficulties. Hendrik who has a lot of Diesel engines From: Mountain Man maontin@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Mon, 12 April, 2010 12:08:39 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Facebooking Hendrik wrote: who is using Fays facebook to pretend he is up to speed with all the new fandangled social networking thingys We don't know what social networking is - at least I don't. Email is too advanced for this 240D driver... mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Facebooking
Just to took a big crap down the hole. Washed hands (well no I didn't), now having a beer and typing BS on the computor. Hendrik who takes his morning constitutionals in the morning, whilst playing solitare From: Walt Zarnoch zarnoch...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Mon, 12 April, 2010 12:13:19 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Facebooking I'm 20 and I still don't get the whole facebook/myspace/etc thing. Tell everyone what you do every second every day yada yada yada. sickening. I have one but never update it, better things to do. Walt, who is contemplating buying facewookie.com as a joke... On Apr 11, 2010 10:38 PM, Mountain Man maontin@gmail.com wrote: Hendrik wrote: who is using Fays facebook to pretend he is up to speed with all the new fandangled... We don't know what social networking is - at least I don't. Email is too advanced for this 240D driver... mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.ok... ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Hendrik might be back
Yes it seems my other email addy has problems, this is my yahoo email. Hendrik who is getting sanesort of From: Wonko the Sane don.b...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Mon, 12 April, 2010 11:49:33 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Hendrik might be back That one made it to the list. On Sun, Apr 11, 2010 at 8:10 PM, Hendrik Riessen mb82u13...@yahoo.com.auwrote: Hi ya gang, seems like there is a problem with mail going to my other email address, hummnh Anyway see how this works. Hendrik who is getting annoyed with stupid computers ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- When the gods wish to punish us, they answer our prayers. -- Oscar Wilde ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] a favour (that's how the Queen spells it)
Could the list members send me an private email to heni...@ozemail.com.au just a note saying test will do I am trying to figure out why mail from okiebenz is getting bounced and if other servers are also refusing my address. Thanking you very mucho Hendrik who has still not managed to get to the bottom of this problem and it is stressing the missus out no end ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Facebooking
Ahh come on Kaleb, all the kids are doing it, apparently twitter is worse. These social networking sites are for the more outgoing person I suppose. Hendrik whose missus is keeping an eye on the teenage daughter on facebook From: Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Mon, 12 April, 2010 12:32:32 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Facebooking I sure as hell dont get it. I get on my facebook maybe once a month, or if Im really froggy, maybe once a week. I dont give a crap about what all these people are doing. Walt Zarnoch wrote: I'm 20 and I still don't get the whole facebook/myspace/etc thing. Tell everyone what you do every second every day yada yada yada. sickening. I have one but never update it, better things to do. Walt, who is contemplating buying facewookie.com as a joke... On Apr 11, 2010 10:38 PM, Mountain Man maontin@gmail.com wrote: Hendrik wrote: who is using Fays facebook to pretend he is up to speed with all the new fandangled... We don't know what social networking is - at least I don't. Email is too advanced for this 240D driver... mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.ok... ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.801 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2804 - Release Date: 04/11/10 01:32:00 -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 95 E300, 92 500SEL, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 350SDL, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] a favour (that's how the Queen spells it)
It seems that the problem is with mail from okiebenz to my main email address at heni...@ozemail.com.au seems to be working fine with this yahoo email address. I am getting other mail on the henifay addy, so I don't know why exactly this happening. I tried swapping over to windows (which runs on a separate hard drive) and that made no difference, tried a different email program (kmail), using the web mail on my ISP website but nothing seems to be able to get mail from okie to henifay happening. Hendrik who is running out of ideas From: archer arche...@embarqmail.com To: mb82u13...@yahoo.com.au Sent: Mon, 12 April, 2010 11:19:08 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] a favour (that's how the Queen spells it) Could the list members send me an private email to heni...@ozemail.com.au just a note saying test will do I am trying to figure out why mail from okiebenz is getting bounced and if other servers are also refusing my address. Thanking you very mucho Hendrik who has still not managed to get to the bottom of this problem and it is stressing the missus out no end -- Have you talked to your ISP and your elected representative in the government? You might also try to get through on a different computer. Gerry ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Hendrik might be back
Hi ya gang, seems like there is a problem with mail going to my other email address, hummnh Anyway see how this works. Hendrik who is getting annoyed with stupid computers ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Facebooking
Seeing that we are now friends with some fella in Oklehoma we came across a funny looking critter standing next to a long white 123, is that you? Hendrik who is using Fays facebook to pretend he is up to speed with all the new fandangled social networking thingys ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Try this
I don't know Roger, where all a bit gun shy now. There is no near naked ladies jumping at us, is there? Hendrik who is still dreaming of skydiving Godesses landing all over the place relng...@aol.com wrote: The Grimsel Pass is in Switzerland. http://www.gamaniak.com/video/3625 RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] this could be a good deal
Maybe a 1k car for someone looking to strip it apart but as far as one of the best driving machines ever you would be hard pressed to find better. Far as the reverse goes, may be it needs new shifter bushings or some new ATF. Hendrik stuck with a stoneage 300TE Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: That is not a good deal. Its about a 1k car. Allan Streib wrote: http://louisville.craigslist.org/cto/1573685028.html Would the reverse only works sometimes likely be something easy or bad news? Allan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Don't try this
I had a look at the vid and at the start thought what a crazy stunt, thinking that the road was blocked off but when I saw the oncoming traffic I changed my mind to dangerously stupid insane idiotic and irresponsible stunt. I don't care if that idiot wiped himself out but there was a good chance he could have smacked into one of the motorbikes coming the other way. Hendrik WILTON wrote: What a surprise for those on the bikes and cars when he passes 'em! Wilton ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Oil Consumption
I seem to remeber reading that MB specs is 1% oil use versus fuel used, or in other worrds for every 100 litres of fuel it is OK to use 1 litre of oil. However this might not be for your particular engine. - Original Message - From: Robert Rentfro [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List Mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2008 12:53 PM Subject: [MBZ] Oil Consumption So..I'm consistently at 1 qt of oil burned (not leaked at all) every 630 mile these days. Should I be concerned? Bob R. '77 300D 188K ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.5/1228 - Release Date: 16/01/2008 9:01 AM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Cut and polish and it will be good as new
http://cgi.ebay.com.au/190-SL-MERCEDES_W0QQitemZ300190451310QQihZ020QQcategoryZ101895QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem At least the steering wheel is on the correct side for the US et al ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Where to Find Wiper for 190 replacement
I'm a fan of replacing the whole blade assembly as someone else pointed out. The tension goes out of them over time and they don't work as well. For a few bucks it's a great safety item. Nothing worse than driving with smears all over the window. Also put a bit of windshield wiper detergent into the reservoir to help clean the windshield. 123 wiper blades and assemblies are no problem and can be bought anywhere but I think only MB had the big mono wipers. Hendrik - Original Message - From: Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2008 2:01 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Where to Find Wiper for 190 replacement We purchased a Bosch wiper blade at Napa according to their look-up book. Just tried to install it. It's about 4 inches too short. Where do I get a correct [87 190D] one? There are two types of wiper on a 201, the long monowiper and the earlier double-wiper style. No doubt the chart gave you the short one. You can also just measure the length of the one you have and get the same length off the rack in the correct back profile (shape of the rubber extrusion). -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] which six
So if one of the motronic computers goes south it'll be cheap to replace? Did the wiring harne$$ go bad on you or the next owner. I think just about everyone on this list would prefer the maintenance/repair cost of a CIS/E M103 over the motronic M104. A lot of indies are capable of fixing a KE but some just don't have the equipment to handle the motronic, this limit's your repair options. Also I do not believe that your 89 had points, from memory MB did away with points in the 70's and what do you mean by exposed ignition, in good shape the KE ignition system can withstand a lot of wetness perhaps not as much as the motronic but if the wiring loom is crumbling in the motronic you are gonna be in trouble with moisture. Also what is different about the spark plug boot on the motronic? This is one area where just about every petrol powered car has an achilles heel in regards to moisture. I know some have a cover built into the boot that shuts off the hole where the spark plug sits, the M110 should have had that. Nobody is disputing that the 104 has more power but the torque figures are not quite as impressive and that's the thing about the 24 valve motor, it really only craps on the 12v motor at higher revs and in everyday driving you don't really get in the powerband. Sure if you are a bit of a leadfoot then the 24v motor is better but as an everyday workhorse the 103 wins in my opinion. What about fuel consumption between the 2.6 and 2.8, given that the 2.8 has electronic fuel injection it should have been a bit better on the juice. Hendrik - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2008 4:46 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] which six So if I was wanting to go fast on the autobahn then yes the M104 would be better but if I was gonna have a motor that I have to maintain and fix myself then I would choose a 103, also whilst the 104 has more power it does not have that much more torque than the 103. My '89 2.6 M103 with 158hp (or thereabouts) had a distributor, points, CIS, and an exposed ignition system. My '95 2.8 M104 with 194hp had Motronic and therefore no points or distributor and the ignition wiring was protected from moisture and it had electric injectors. The plugs lasted longer but changing them was more difficult. It also had a MAF which was replaced once under warranty. It's hard to imagine that any of the M104's infamous headgasket and front cover leaks would not have been repaired long ago. Mine were fixed in the first year I had the C280 and did not show up again. M104 wins. RLE ** Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape. http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp0030002489 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.2/1223 - Release Date: 13/01/2008 8:23 PM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] air und oel
Technically the oil in every motor (except small two stroke) helps to disapate the heat or in other words take the heat from a hot spot and spread it around a bit. Think oil jets under the pistons of turboed MB Diesels. Some air cooled motors do not have a fan to blow air around the fins ie. small stationary motors, some motorbikes. As a side note, Deutz used to have trouble with their air cooled Diesel engines in trucks because they would get hot as hell going up a hill and then once over the top would cool down too quickly and crack the heads. Hendrik with a couple of air cooled engines - Original Message - From: Tom Hargrave [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2008 6:56 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] air und oel You'll find out in a hurry that they are air cooled. Thanks, Tom 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: mercedes@okiebenz.com mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: 1/14/08 12:47 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] air und oel IIRC, the 911 isn't really air cooled. Oil cooled might be a better description. Don't most of them have oil capacaties greater than the water capacity of my 300SD, and large oil radiators? That is a valid theory but try removing the fanbelt and see what happens. RLE/ Five aircooled and one watercooled Porsche. And four VWs. ** Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape. http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp0030002489 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.2/1223 - Release Date: 1/13/2008 8:23 PM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.2/1223 - Release Date: 13/01/2008 8:23 PM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Hendrik never gives up, which is learnt from Roger
Well I think there is plenty of info to say the original question has been answered. Far as the you beaut MB V6 goes, the new Toyota quad cam V6 is much the same. 200kw/268hp 10L/100K's or 23.5mpg although it is a 3.5 litre and the MB V6 3.5 also puts out 200kw but uses a little bit less fuel. Although we dn't get the 3 or 3.5litre over here but only the 2.2 and 2.8 and a Diesel. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2008 11:53 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Hendrik never gives up about 1mpg less. The M112 C320 hovered around 19-20mpg and the '08 C300 does 19mpg. Which is damned good considering it's weight and horsepower, 228. My opinion of which six is based on which compnents are likely to fail earlier than the other and what has been engineered out and I maintain the M104 is better. Not as good as the V-6s, you undersatnd. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: New Apple operating software
This gets me thinking, why don't they build a Linux distro based on a web browser interface. The problem I see is that a lot of people are scared of Linux because it has a reputation/perception as being more difficult to use than windoze. To be honest it is due to the need to manually install stuff, whereas windoze is designed for ease of use. Having a web browser interface will overcome a lot of these apprehensions because most computer users are familiar with a web browser and how to navigate around it. If linux is to grow they need to come up with a standard that programmers can work with to build easy to use software that is self installing. Obviously within the linux community there are divisions along the lines of those wanting to build easy to use stuff with an industry standard and those who are linux purists and have a secret agenda to keep non geeks out of linux, fearing if linux becomes too popular it will push them out and make their work redudant. This is understandable from the point of view that one dominat flavour of linux will squash the other flavours into oblivion. Nobody wants to work on a dead end project. I guess that is the first problem that has to be solved, the battle between one dominant linux and having lots of little penguins going off into different areas to see where they end up. Anyway I have to reinstall ubuntu due to clumsy button pushing. Hendrik - Original Message - From: Alex Chamberlain [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, January 13, 2008 7:18 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: New Apple operating software On Jan 12, 2008 10:56 PM, Gary Hurst [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: most people who are on the internet are not sophisticated users. basically, they are using a web browser and an email client. maybe some light word processing. Not even that much, by my observation. A lot (most?) people who aren't very tech-savvy just use webmail. They often aren't even aware that mail clients, or any internet software other than the browser, exist---to them, the internet IS just the world inside the browser. And Google Docs ought to fill anyone's need for light word processing. Basically, 50% of home computer users would be happy with a Linux machine that went straight into Firefox when you turned it on. (The other half are gamers, which is a whole different issue.) Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Which six?
Obviously yes, it takes all the stuff learnt from the 103 and goes up to the next step but it's drawback is it complexity. Apart from some of the early ones (3 litre ones) it uses motronic fuel injection/ignition (2.8 and 3.2 litre) and has 24 valves. Whilst motronic is more efficient, if there is a problem you'll need a tow. M103 uses KE jetronic and unless your fuel pump dies will keep going unless there is an ignition problem but even those are easier to fix. So it is fair to say that the 103 is a potentially more reliable motor but the 104 is more efficient. However from my point of view reliability is more important than efficiency, fuel usage for the M103 is round about 12-13L/100ks in town (about 8 cruising at 110kmh) the 104 in 2.8 displacement does a bit better around town but not that much better on the open road. I think the 3.2 litre 104 is about the same as the 3 litre 103. Here is a discussion on this topic http://www.benzworld.org/forums/w124-e-ce-d-td-class/1189311-m103-vs-m104.html More info http://www.continentalimports.com/ser_ic100345.html So if I was wanting to go fast on the autobahn then yes the M104 would be better but if I was gonna have a motor that I have to maintain and fix myself then I would choose a 103, also whilst the 104 has more power it does not have that much more torque than the 103. Hendrik - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, January 14, 2008 11:54 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Which six? The 3.0 Liter Inline 6 cylinder M103 engine (much more reliable than the M104) ... Absolute nonsense. The M104 is better in many ways. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 300E 5 speed
About the 16 wheels on that car, did they make those mags in 16? I got a set like that on my 201 and they are 15. Hendrik - Original Message - From: Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, January 14, 2008 11:28 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 300E 5 speed No, I dont see how it would be more reliable. If anything, the other way around. Craig McCluskey wrote: On Sun, 13 Jan 2008 18:26:29 -0600 Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-300-Series-5-SPEED-1986-300E-5-SPEED-MANUAL-TRANSMISSION-WITH-UPGRADES_W0QQitemZ190190082351QQihZ009QQcategoryZ6330QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem The 3.0 Liter Inline 6 cylinder M103 engine (much more reliable than the M104) ... Is this true? How reliable is that? What kind of mileage on what kind of gasoline? Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 300D, 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.2/1223 - Release Date: 13/01/2008 8:23 PM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: New Apple operating software
Linux is getting easier to use every day, there are various linux versions and I would not use one that is more than a few months old. Ubuntu have just gone to version 7.10 which addresses a lot of issues. One of the issues I have is with my video card which seems to have been addressed in 7.10 but still takes a bit of fiddeling. At the moment I am installing ubuntu 7.04 which picked up my direct internet connection and will upgrade to 7.10 before putting my video cardback in the box. You can run most linux distros off a live CD which won't require much space at all but for performance a hard drive install is best. You may want to make a couple of CD's and see which distro is best for your system before commiting to a hard drive install. Hendrik - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes List Mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, January 14, 2008 1:07 PM Subject: [MBZ] OT: New Apple operating software I would like to know Linux software is easy to use for all of you. Please let me know that size hard drive that is required to run these versions. I would remove the modem, and tv tuner before install. Maybe the Iomega and Floppy. Thanks. to all Douglas ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] two S-class questions
1. I think the euros had high compression motors while the US and Oz did not. 2. Could be all sorts of dramas but fuel pump relay getting hot could be one or in tank fuel strainer blocking could be another. - Original Message - From: Sunil Hari [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List Mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, January 13, 2008 1:20 PM Subject: [MBZ] two S-class questions 1) How is the Euro version of the 1983 380SE? I know the US version was darn near crippled. But I vaguely recall the Euro versions being sweet. http://columbus.craigslist.org/car/536056105.html 2) On an 87 300SE, can anyone think of a simple reason why it would run for about 1/2 an hour, then shut off? http://columbus.craigslist.org/car/537103329.html No affiliation or association with either of them; I'm actually considering getting my first S-class. -- Sunil Hari [EMAIL PROTECTED] 513-205-7474 614-441-8164 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.2/1221 - Release Date: 12/01/2008 2:04 PM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OM603 Engine Vibration
Hard to determine vibration issues by just looking, also unless done properly can be dangerous. Mercedes does recommend that the bolts not be re used, although some do but I am not mentioning any names. - Original Message - From: Peter Merle [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2007 4:04 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OM603 Engine Vibration Thanks, not a bad idea , what about raising the rear wheels and running car and looking underneath for issues? Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] clunky downshift 300TE
I got a chance to test drive that 300TE that I got my eye on, seemed alright except for a real clunky 4-3 shift. You know when you are cruising along and give it a bootfull, usually the downshift should be smooth but in this car it is real neck snapping clunky. I am guessing something is a bit sticky in the box somewhere because all the other shifts are normal and as expected. Experience preferred but guesses accepted. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 87 300D did it's job, RIP
I can't find one specific for an 89 300TE but here is the price of a 93 300TE 2.6 http://www.carsales.com.au/car-research/details.aspx?Cr=0__Ns=pCar_YearMade_Int32|1||pCar_Make_String|0||pCar_Model_String|0__Nne=20seot=20trecs=1silo=1005Make=MERCEDESModel=300TE__N=1090+4294964559+281__sid=1141180EAB23R=cs19931116.09:07:29 MB have been fleecing the Oz buyers for years, - Original Message - From: Sunil Hari [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2007 10:14 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 87 300D did it's job, RIP what kind of benz cost $120,000 in 1989? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 126 chassis front spring removal ..
I bought an aftermarket copy on stealbay for about 250 US beans, did the job on the 123 very safely. - Original Message - From: Rusty Cullens [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2007 1:57 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 126 chassis front spring removal .. You know that we rent the Klann spring compressor for $75.00? Rusty Cullens ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 87 300D did it's job, RIP
Don't really remember, probably somewhere between 70 and 80 cents. http://www.aph.gov.au/LIBRARY/pubs/rn/2004-05/05rn28.htm - Original Message - From: Alex Chamberlain [EMAIL PROTECTED] What was the exchange rate between Aussie dollars and USD in 1993? Alex Chamberlain '87 300D et al. ___ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 126 chassis front spring removal ..
No, the only safe way to do this is with a proper internal compressor. Thr problem with that one is that it compresses from one side and the spring can jump out the other. - Original Message - From: dave walton [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2007 2:45 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 126 chassis front spring removal .. Would something like this work? http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Troy-1-Ton-Hydraulic-Coil-Strut-Spring-Compressor-Kit_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ35625QQihZ003QQitemZ130155502475QQrdZ1QQsspagenameZWDVW -Dave Walton ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 126 chassis front spring removal ..
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1801-Mercedes-Benz-Strut-Coil-Spring-Compressor-Tool_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ35625QQihZ019QQitemZ290165001781QQrdZ1QQsspagenameZWDVW This is the one I got and it did the job without the price tag, although I had to enlarge the hole on the 123 for it to fit. Perhaps I should have used some KY. Shipping from that seller was pretty quick too. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Coil-Spring-Compressor-Suspension-Repair-Tools_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ35625QQihZ002QQitemZ120165946852QQrdZ1QQsspagenameZWDVW Here is one with a buy it now option. So basically you will need to use the tool three times to make it worthwhile, if you only think you'll need it once then rent from Rusty. Also remmeber that these things have a resale value and as such can be sold once no longer required. - Original Message - From: Rusty Cullens [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2007 2:47 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 126 chassis front spring removal .. Cost on these now is $965.00 plus shipping. Renting is the only way to go. Rusty Cullens ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 126 chassis front spring removal
Yes and I removed a 123 spring with el cheapo external spring compressors, second time I tried this the spring slipped out and jumped across the garage floor. I have now invested in a proper compressor. How much is my life worth? More than 300 bucks. You may be able to use that tool to do the job but there is no margin for error. Anyway you have been warned, not everyone gets a second chance. If you are going to persist with a MacPherson strut coil compressor I will advise you to not have anyone near it when you are using it. You do not want to take the head off your little helper. - Original Message - From: dave walton [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2007 4:04 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 126 chassis front spring removal .. I appreciate the input. Saying it won't work is different than saying you should not use it. To be honest, after handling one to do the job, I find it to be adequately heavy-duty to be used safely. I prefer the quick hydraulic operation to manually tightening and loosening a bolt. One man's opinion... -Dave Walton ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Getting taken by mechanic currently
Tell them they are dreaming, those jobs are pretty easy DIY except for rebuilding the alternator. Pull the alternator and take it to a reputable auto sparky for an overhaul, the alternators are nothing out of the ordinary. The thermostat could be about right if the cover needs replacing (MB no longer make the plastic thermostat cover and the metal ones are pricey but a good S/H one should do the job). Anyway ask Rusty what the going rate is for those parts. - Original Message - From: Zoltan Finks [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2007 4:23 AM Subject: [MBZ] Getting taken by mechanic currently How does this sound to y'all? About $750 dollars to replace the alternator, and the tensioner pulley and its shock. and about $160 to replace the thermostat. The alternator the guy wants to sell me is some $350. He won't accept outside parts. Is this price what I should expect? Anybody want to buy an 87 190D? Brian ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Getting taken by mechanic currently
I would just find another mechanic, going back to those thieves will only spell trouble. More than likely they use the cheapest parts they can find and do a crappy job if you start getting smart with them. What I look for in a mechanic is fairness, I am willing to pay good money for a good job. A good mechanic can make car ownership that much more enjoyable and having the ability to take your car in to him/her and say fix it please, without having to go through the how much is this gonna cost dance, is a bonus. - Original Message - From: Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Diesel List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2007 5:20 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Getting taken by mechanic currently Either find another mechanic or rustle up several different sources for the alt, print 'em and take 'em in with you, preferably when he's busy. Tell him you don't mind taking it in the behind but you'd like him to lube you up first. -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] clunky downshift 300TE
The problem I have with vaccum theory is that it is only the 4-3 shift, generally speaking vaccum issues affect all changes to a degree. Although if the 4-3 shift mechanism is a bit sticky, a touch of extra/less vaccum could compensate for that. This is the same for the stuffed flex plate theory, there would be issues all through the shifts, perhaps not to such a degree. As much as I would like it to be something as simple as renewing flex plates, I somehow don't think it is that easy. Otherwise it may well have been done by now because a car is much easier to sell without a clunky gearbox Also it would seem that the box shifted better while the fluid was cold but once up to operating temperature gave the neck muscles a good workout. It is also load sensitive, in other words if you floor it the little elf gets the sledge hammer out but if you gently accelerate he will only use a little hammer to bang third gear into place. - Original Message - From: Bill Ringgold [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2007 4:15 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] clunky downshift 300TE I am no expert on this, but when I was having that clunk [like someone was hiding in the trunk with a sledge hammer] it was a vacuum problem. Went ok for a year after I got it fixed, but I am not having a rebuilt put in. BillR ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] overheating engines
That is why there are radiator pressure caps fitted to cars, so unless the wrong cap is on the engine the expanding coolant theory is a bit shaky. Was there any steam action? Is the correct cap on the expansion tank (it should be stamped on the cap, 120 I think)? If there was an expulsion of steam I would say yes you are in the poo poo but if it just got up the 120 mark then you should be pretty right, however every engine is different and just because old cast iron engines can be overheated for a half a day without ill effects does not mean a aluminium and cast iron engine is the same. Remember that MB engines are designed to go up to 110 on a regular basis and as such a little spike to 120 should not be a killer. However sensible design would state that a warning light in conjuntion with a buzzer would be prudent but then how are they gonna make money from cooked engines? - Original Message - From: Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Diesel List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2007 8:49 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Getting taken by mechanic currently Remember what happens when you overheat the engine: The coolant turns to steam. The steam takes up a LOT more space than the water does. In an earlier post I'd said like 6x I did a little search and apparently it's more like 1500x!!! That much extra pressure has to go somewhere, blowing the headgasket is a really common result. I don't think the head cracks from pressure though, I think the head cracks from the temperature differential through its mass. The hottest part of the head, the combustion chamber, wants to enlarge from the heat of combustion. Thats normally held in check by the coolant which wicks that heat away. Once the coolant is steam the heat concentrates and now the lowest part of the head wants to expand. Unfortunately its connected to the rest of the head which is heating up more slowly and doesn't want to expand or doesn't want to expand as quickly. Thats when you get cracks. Overheating is NEVER good. -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] overheating engines
I don't have the info at hand but to what degree does coolant raise the boiling point? I am trying to dig into the memory banks to remember automotive cooling systems 101 and the effect of the radiator cap in raising the boiling point. This is called the pressure cooker principle, where temps of 100d Celcius+ are achieved by raising the pressure within the cooker. So yes a hot motor 100+ will have more pressure in the system than a motor at 85d C but if it is enough to cause damage is hard to tell. However given the fact that the radiator cap did not blow (unless it is the wrong one) is a indicator that no damage was done but it is a 20 year old motor and just that little bit of extra pressure could perhaps maybe in some circumstances done something which may cause problems further down the road but personally I would just keep going. However we are all just guessing and no one can give you a definite answer in regards to damage done. It's like asking how a auto box will last once it starts flaring in the shifts, my Mum's lasted years and is only now starting to die properly. Sure we could have fixed it when the first signs of trouble started but we didn't. - Original Message - From: OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2007 11:25 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] overheating engines That's the key - did it hit the 120 mark and that's as hot as it got, or did it exceed the range of the gauge, and actually was much hotter? On 9/26/07, Zoltan Finks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Good word. No, no steam and the engine really didn't even feel overly hot when I opened the hood. Brian ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] GPS receivers
They have come down in price a bit, you can get one of those in car navigator thingys pretty cheap now a days, then there is the GPS in a phone, which comes with directional stuff as well and then there are the plain old hand held co-ordinate receivers. Basically depends what you want to do with it. - Original Message - From: Craig McCluskey [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2007 2:12 PM Subject: [MBZ] GPS receivers My next door neighbor is looking at getting a GPS receiver. He found that Consumer Reports doesn't rate them, so he wants me to ask all of you. He's looking at the Garmin C340 and Garmin NUVI350. Does anyone know anything about them, or about what makes a good GPS receiver? Thanks, Craig P.S. It would be nice to have one when we drive to the IowaQ, but I guess I'm too cheap to shell out for one. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Anyone give me a grand for my 83 300TD?
Yeah I'll have it, delivery it to Adelaide, SA please. Cheers mate - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Saturday, August 04, 2007 10:21 AM Subject: [MBZ] Anyone give me a grand for my 83 300TD? NEED CASH TO BUY A TRAILER RIGHT AWAY!! Who would like to have my 83 300TD? I'll deliver it within 500 miles for $1000 cash. Mike ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.11.4/935 - Release Date: 3/08/2007 5:46 PM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Tourism?
You might want to adjust your humour modulator Roger, a slight tweak to the left should do it:-) Actually while travelling I have meet a few yanks but most of them pretend to be Canadian:-)) - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2007 10:02 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Tourism? I realise that usually the only Americans that travel outside of the states are wearing funny clothes, have very short hair cuts and carry rifles but yes life exists outside of the USA as well and yes we do have trouble with odometers. Hmm. So you are saying that Australia, as just one example, does not benefit from American tourism since we don't travel? Hardly. The cash flowing into Oz from US tourism must be in the billions of dollars per year. Although I have not yet had the pleasure of visiting your country, I have been here and there. Such as: Canada Mexico Iceland Netherlands France Germany Belgium Denmark Luxembourg Italy Yugoslavia Austria Switzerland Lichtenstein United Kingdom China Taiwan Malaysia Singapore Thailand Japan RLE ** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.10.16/914 - Release Date: 23/07/2007 7:45 PM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] windshield misting over after A/C shutdown ('85 300D)
Using the A/C is supposed to clear foggy windows, might be a blocked drain
hole or some such thing.
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] windshield misting over after A/C shutdown ('85 300D)
lately, anytime i shut off the A/C after using it while driving,
moisture vapor becoming condensation blowing onto the windshield
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Re: [MBZ] Odo reset 190DT
I've got one in my 230E that says 430,000kmhs, it may die tommorrow or in 20 years time but it will fail (well I think it is starting to slip, so tommorrow is probably a better guess than 20 years). Perhaps the previous owner of the 230TE, that odo came from never used the reset button, no way of knowing really. - Original Message - From: Sunil Hari [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, July 23, 2007 1:12 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Odo reset 190DT on my former 300D, both odos were still working perfectly at 292Kmi. On 7/22/07, Hendrik Riessen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That's like asking, If I change my oil regularly will my engine never break? Unfortunatley with the mechanical odo's they will break eventually, even if you only reset when stopped. It is a ordinary design and there is no way of fixing that. What I am saying is that conventional wisdom is to reset tripmeters when they are not turning. Whether you do or not is up to you, just like changing the oil is up to you. - Original Message - From: andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, July 23, 2007 11:30 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Odo reset 190DT So if you only reset the trip counter when the vehicle is stationary does this GUARANTEE that the odometer will NEVER break??? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Sunil Hari [EMAIL PROTECTED] 513-205-7474 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.10.14/912 - Release Date: 22/07/2007 7:02 PM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Odo reset 190DT
The 123's where the worst affected out of all MB's in regards to odo failure, guess they had a few too many come back broken and decided to increase quality standards. However the 124 and 201 chassis have not yet done the avearge mileage of the 123 chassis. - Original Message - From: E M [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, July 23, 2007 3:15 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Odo reset 190DT Mine is still ticking at 340,000 kms in the 300E. It's funny this is brought up as I'm looking at several cars now. Once they say the cars odo doesn't work, I usually walk away from it. Do you guys take your cars with brokes odos in to a shop for an oil change once in a while, just for the paperwork? You would show somebody that you bought oil, but how do they know you haven't poured it into other cars for the past 5 years? :-) Ed 300E-334,000 kms odo working 911SC-58,000 kms yes, that odo is correct and working too. hee hee ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Odometers
No one is saying that reseting on the move once or twice a year is a big deal, however when it becomes a habit then the problems start. Think of it a sending a shock through the system, everything is turning nicely and you slam the brakes on. Would you regularly lock up the rear wheels via the handbrake? No, why not? Because something in the back of your mind tells you that this can't be good for the drivetrain, same with the little reset button. Anyway i think this subject has been covered from just about every angle and what people do to their cars is their business. The advice stands, whether people choose to follow or ignore matters not. - Original Message - From: Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2007 1:20 AM Subject: [MBZ] Odometers Having just become intimately familiar with the guts of the offending unit, I can in no way see how resetting the trip odometer, moving or not, can place any significantly greater torque on the drive gear. If it does, the amount is nearly trivial and the drive gear is already about to fail. It takes _considerable_ torque to roll over a bunch of dials at once, that drive gear is supposed to be _tight_. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Odometers
I know it is hard to understand but there is a whole bunch of places outside the US of A. A lot of those places have vehicles which are not available in the good ole USA. Like the 230TE. Just like other parts of the world never got models available in the good ole USA like the Diesel S class and 123 coupe. Further it may come as a shock to learn that people outide of the good ole USA have learned how to use a computer and access the internet and even how to sign up to mail lists/forums. I realise that usually the only Americans that travel outside of the states are wearing funny clothes, have very short hair cuts and carry rifles but yes life exists outside of the USA as well and yes we do have trouble with odometers. - Original Message - From: Fmiser [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2007 10:37 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Odometers But a 230TE - maybe you guys _are_ discussing non-W123s -- Philip, whose W108 is gone, so there's nothing but W123s now. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Odometers
Well you have just explained why it is a bad idea to reset on the move. What causes more wear/damage? Shifting gears while stationary with the engine off or shifiting gears while on the move? - Original Message - From: Fmiser [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2007 10:54 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Odometers It seems than at Tue, 24 Jul 2007 10:17:56 +0930, Hendrik wrote: No one is saying that reseting on the move once or twice a year is a big deal, however when it becomes a habit then the problems start. Think of it a sending a shock through the system, everything is turning nicely and you slam the brakes on. Would you regularly lock up the rear wheels via the handbrake? No, why not? The first thing that happens when the reset button is press is the drive gear is lifted so the tripometer is now de-clutched. As the button is pressed further, the gears spin back to zero. When the button is released, the last action is to re-engaged the odometer drive to the tripometer. It's like shifting gears than locking the brakes. Sure, it causes wear - but so does pulling out of the driveway. Or sitting in the seat. --Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.10.16/914 - Release Date: 23/07/2007 7:45 PM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] [OT] Linux drivers wanted
Didn't know that or wasn't paying attention, anyway I applied for a sub but Kaleb will probably turn me down because I am such a crap stirrer. I'll ask over there for opinions but thank you to everyone who has replied thus far. - Original Message - From: OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, July 22, 2007 12:55 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] [OT] Linux drivers wanted You'd hardly suspect it, based on all the OT OS talk here, but we have a dedicated Linux list, http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/linux_okiebenz.com, with most of the regulars from here who care about Linux --- This question would be ON Topic there! Last I heard, Ubuntu was the flavor of the week ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 02 sensor?? Where?
Well yes you can change it, or you can test it to see if it is working. Genuine MB sensors are expensive but aftermarket ones can be used. If you are really keen to chnage it, have a look at your exhaust system, usually it is just in front of the cat (alytic converter) or it could be closer to the exhaust manifold. It should have a shield around it and require a 22 mm(?) ring spanner to undo and they are usually VERY tight so make sure you get a real good grip on it. The procedure is to undo the wiring to the O2 sensor and then feed the wires through the ring spanner, make sure you use a combination spanner so you can get another large spanner onto the 22 mm one. It is NOT advisable to use a hammer to whack the spanner. - Original Message - From: E M [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, July 23, 2007 10:23 AM Subject: [MBZ] 02 sensor?? Where? Hi Everyone, Have fun waxing and just playing with the 300E today. Was thinking of changing the 02 sensor just as a maintance thing as I don't know when it was last done and the car has miles. Think I can find the thing!!! anyway, it's an '88 300E gasser. Where should I look? Thanks, Ed 300E ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Odo reset 190DT
That's like asking, If I change my oil regularly will my engine never break? Unfortunatley with the mechanical odo's they will break eventually, even if you only reset when stopped. It is a ordinary design and there is no way of fixing that. What I am saying is that conventional wisdom is to reset tripmeters when they are not turning. Whether you do or not is up to you, just like changing the oil is up to you. - Original Message - From: andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, July 23, 2007 11:30 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Odo reset 190DT So if you only reset the trip counter when the vehicle is stationary does this GUARANTEE that the odometer will NEVER break??? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] lug bolt removal
And when you put em back on a torque wrench is the go... I did come across some auto torque sockets on ebay, which I suppose is designed for lazy people who use air tools a lot. Ok Ok, if I had an air compressor.. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, July 22, 2007 6:15 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] lug bolt removal For lugnuts a ratchet is TOTALLY the wrong tool and its real easy to break 'em unless you've got a 3/4 ratchet...The right tool is a lug wrench thats shaped like a crank. Truth be told, the best tool (open your wallet) for lug bolt removal is a 1/2 17mm six point deep socket, a six inch extension and a 14 swivel bar. The deep socket sits on the bolt shoulder and using this you will never twist off a frozen lug bolt. I wouldn't consider using that silly factory lug wrench and an x-wrench is too big to carry in the car. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] lug bolt removal
Oooh you are so going to get it when Marshall reads this. - Original Message - From: LarryT [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, July 22, 2007 11:17 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] lug bolt removal Don't have any personal experience, but previous discussions on other lists have had several people talking about these 12v impact wrenches. here's one: http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/displayitem.taf?Itemnumber=92349 not as cumbersome as an X-Wrench and I'm told the torque is impressive. The ad says 150 #'s. YMMV ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] [OT] Linux drivers wanted
I was going to say something about penguins but this is a family list. Anyway I had a gutfull of the Micro$oft stuff ( I seem to spending half my time on the computer trying to stop adware/malware/viruses and God knows what else from taking over my box), I tried all the scanners and installed the you beaut Billy Gates anti virus software (which has a 90 day free trial and then you cough up cash because of their inability to build a good OS) but crap still comes through. So basically I have to give the computer a complete reboot to clean everything but am sick of having to keep installing a mutitude of programs just to keep XP running. So I am seriously thinking of challenging myself to learn how to install/use a linux OS, at the moment I am looking at Debian http://www.debian.org/ because it is free free, unlike some other UNIX based stuff. However Debian is a huge download (22 cd's worth) but that is a truckload of programs, most of which I will probably never even use or know what they are for. However I did install openoffice and while it is a bit slower than office97, it has a pooload more buttons to push and should kick bottom running on an open OS. Anyone with experience wanna give me some advice. And to all the fruit lovers, not even thinking about biting into a Apple because I have a recently upgraded intel box with a crappy OS sitting right next to me and until Jobsy builds a OS to run on that I am not going to the fruit and veg market. Thanking you in advance, Hendrik (I signed just in case Marshall keeps a Penguin or two) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Odo reset 190DT
However it is good practise to only reset the tripmeter when the car is stopped, particularly on the 123 chassis. A good driver shouldn't be fiddling with reset buttons while they are driving anyway. I know, I know, most drivers do anything but drive. They do things like read the newspaper, talk/text on the phone, do the nails, fiddle with the stereo, eat/drink, have sex, etc, etc Then when the big bang occurs they come out with the old I only took my eyes off the road for a second, which is all very nice except for the dead kid who was just chasing his football. I don't know the situation over there but here the authorities are busy dumbing down the laws to take into account peoples stupidity. Some roads around town you can only 40k's an hour and getting caught talking on the phone is a couple of hundred bucks. There was just a case where someone got fined for talking on his hands free because the police deemed pushing the talk button on the phone was illegal. Kinda stupid when you consider that you can fiddle with the radio all day long. - Original Message - From: Tom Hargrave [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Frederick Moir' [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, July 20, 2007 7:11 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Odo reset 190DT There is nothing in the mechanism that will cause the button to stick or fail only when you are moving. Thanks, Tom 256-656-1924 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OnT - tank-on-empty - oil lights
That depends why the low oil light came on, if it's a malfunction of the low oil warning system then the engine won't seize but if came on cause the oil is escaping from the engine then it is a matter of minutes. - Original Message - From: OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 10:20 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - tank-on-empty And, we need one for the low oil light - how long till the engine seizes?? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] - tank-on-empty - Number of Miles on Reserve
Might pay to teach your son to put more fuel in the car when the light comes on, it is considered bad to reset the trip meter with the car in motion (well it is in the notorious W123 trip/odometers). I personally don't understand why some people only refuel when they are very near empty. However if money is tight and pay day is a couple of days away, some have no option but to. - Original Message - From: andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2007 2:03 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] - tank-on-empty - Number of Miles on Reserve My son resets the odometer counter to zero when the reserve tank light comes on so he knows how close to the edge he is skating... ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 300e fuel issues. . ??
Cold enrichment is more for idling than when the car is in motion. I am not 100% up to speed on the last versions of the CIS/E system but the basis of all CIS/E systems is that even without any electric input they continue to work. That is why MB was so reluctant to let go of the sytem, even when just about everyone else went to full electric fuel injection (which MB did in 93/94). However every CIS system needs fuel pressure to work, if your fuel pressure is wrong then it may give the impression of fuel stavation. http://www.humanspeakers.com/audi/timing2.htm at the bottom of this page is a basic layout of the KE (CIS/E) system http://covintechnical.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/tech_2.htm http://ffp-motorsport.com/tuning/kejetronic.php http://web.archive.org/web/20060104183213/mb.braingears.com/ have a dig around in here for tech stuff How long since you checked your O2 sensor, maybe when it gets to operating temp it starts to send out bad vibes to the computer. It may be possible to diconnect it to see if there is any change. Blocked fuel tank? I would say no because the symptons would not be so regular and would repeat themselves during the course of driving. It has to be remebered that the CIS system pumps a lot of fuel with something like 90% being returned to the tank. This is the same reason I am not thinking blocked fuel strainer and/or fuel filters. My theory is there is enough fuel in the pump and line to get us the 1.5 mile. But at that point the pump must take over, and for whatever reason it is struggling. Either the filter is occluded, or their is air getting into the system. I understand from my mechanic that this car has two fuel pumps, and they are known for causing issues. Sounds good on paper but when you realise the amount of fuel that is pumped through the system If air gets into the sytem you would have a fuel leak. If you have fuel pump issues then the problem would not be so regular but more intermitten. Anyhow we need some more info before we can start to track down a likely culprit, such as engine operating temp when the problem occurs, is the car fine once it gets past the 1.5 mile mark and any other odd things that are happening. Has your mechanic checked the trouble codes? From about 88 on the CIS/E system has self diagnostic abilities. - Original Message - From: Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2007 1:36 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 300e fuel issues. . ?? Troy Kocher wrote: Listers, Recently my 'new' 300e seems to be having a fuel supply issue. . Each morning about 1.5 miles from home it begins to starve for fuel. Sounds like a cold enrichment system is shutting off too suddenly or too soon. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] - tank-on-empty - Number of Miles on Reserve
The problem with the 123 set up is that the little wheel spins on the little shaft and what happens when you press the little reset button while moving is that you put extra pressure on the little wheel which spins on the little shaft and eventually the little shaft turns but the little wheel does not and then you have to take the instrument cluster out and do a very fiddly job of repairing the little wheel so it turns with the little shaft again. Far as refuelling goes, nothing wrong with doing what you do if there are plenty of service stations along the way but I would not recommend it when you are not sure about fuel avaiability. I realise the situation over there is different to what we have here but a golden rule when driving in the outback is to have enough fuel to get to not the next fuel place but the one beyond that. Reason being that sometimes a small outback fuel station may have shut down, run out of fuel, or have another reason for not being able to supply fuel. - Original Message - From: Tom Hargrave [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2007 10:10 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] - tank-on-empty - Number of Miles on Reserve Resetting the trip while moving hurts nothing. The real issue is that a small plastic part inside disintegrates with age. And as far as filling up when almost empty, I do it all the time. I burn about 2 tanks of fuel a week filling up when I have to means I only have to stand in front of the pump twice a week, as opposed to 3 or 4 times a week. Thanks, Tom Hargrave ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 300e fuel issues. . ??
To save yourself a lot of grief and frustration you are best to take it to a good mechanic who has the tools to test your machine. The O2 sensor can be tested, as well as fuel pressure and just about everything else. This saves you time and money in the long run. Just recently on the Ozbenz forum there was a fella who had trouble with his 180E which turned out to be broken wiring due to clumsy mechanics. Something like that can only be found with experience. We could sit here for weeks guessing and you could spend a lot of money replacing components, which may well not require replacment. I had stalling issues with my 190E which turned out to be a broken throttle return spring, thus not allowing the fuel cut off switch to activate, thus the system did not know that the foot is off the throttle and the system has to go into idle mode. You may have a dodgy RPM sensor and numerous other things could be your problem. Also we should not automatically assume that fuel is the problem, if you have ignition problems we could fully rebuild the fuel system and still have problems. A dodgy ignition system does feel very similar to fuel starvation symptons, loss of power, stalling, etc. So you can see that it is a very complex system that when working properly is a joy but when the gremilns bite, they bite hard. - Original Message - From: Troy Kocher [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2007 12:05 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 300e fuel issues. . ?? I haven't replaced the O2 sensor. Don't exactly know where to find it. I'll see what I can dig up. . Your thought here is that once it warms up it begins behaving better? I'll observe the operating temp more closely, but I believe it is at the normal temp when it happens. . The only other think I've observed. This actually happens intermittently, when coming to a stop it occasionally 'coughs' briefly like it's not getting fuel. I haven't observed anything that would lead me to a pattern here. Although in the three weeks since I purchased it this whole issue has worsened. The morning issue has been going on the last 5 days, but the overall coughing has been happening since I bought it. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] James May on the 123
Send me the airfare money and you got a deal:) - Original Message - From: Rich Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2007 1:25 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] James May on the 123 How about you pop over and do mine? --R Hendrik Riessen wrote: I have had no problem aligning glove box lids on 123's, it is a matter of understanding the design. I found two small screwdrivers and a larger one work wonders for those weird nuts. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Just saw this in Popular Machanics re: tires
Genius, pure genius. I suppose he polishes it with sandpaper as well and details the engine with a sandblaster? - Original Message - From: Kevin Kraly [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2007 2:34 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Just saw this in Popular Machanics re: tires I thought it was the American way to use a pressure washer on anything you can't clean with a leafblower. That's exactly how our neighbor was. One day, he even got the bright idea to dry off his truck with his leafblower. Kevin in Portland, OR 1983 300SD 267Kmi, Ursula ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Coin op
I'm just amazed that Rodger cleans his own cars, I would have thought he would go down to the scout clean a car day and haggle them down to 50c for a complete detail inside and out. - Original Message - From: John Robbins [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2007 9:48 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Coin op [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You don't have the coin-op self-service car washes? They're everywhere here, and are used heavily Those aren't pressure washers, of course. Huh? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - tank-on-empty
I've got a great idea, I'll keep driving my Benz till it runs out of fuel and then tell the world how much of an idiot I am because I can't manage to organise fuel for my vehicle. Anyway it is hard to determine how far it would go after the light comes on bercause in all mine the yellow triangle likes to flicker for a while before deciding to stay on. I guess that is a design, sort of like a like a gentle tap on the shoulder that turns into a kick up the backside. So where would you start measuring from, the first flicker or when it stays on? - Original Message - From: OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List Mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2007 12:26 PM Subject: [MBZ] OT - tank-on-empty What won't they think of next? This is a MUST VISIT web site with marginal MB content (looks like only E class drivers run past the low fuel light) --- http://tankonempty.com/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Way too much OT?
Yes, you are. I love hearing the cardigan wearing, apple loving mob going on about how great their OS is. Question is, if it is so great why do they have to keep telling themselves and everybody else? Perhaps this is the only place in the universe where they are tolerated? Phehaps there is no specific iluvAppleandhatewindow$anddriveaMercedes forum on the planet? Perhaps because of the lack of fun programs for the Apple OS they have to spend their time going on about how great it is? Who knows? Who cares? Anyway it's back to strip poker for windows for me:0 I'm sitting here nude while the girls have not even lost a bra:( - Original Message - From: Walt Lasher [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes List Mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 5:47 AM Subject: [MBZ] Way too much OT? Maybe I'm an old stick in the mud, eh? Walt Lasher W140 S350 Seattle ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Just saw this in Popular Machanics re: pressure washers
Ahh well that's different, those are taxpayer owned vehicles. There to be used and abused as much as possible. - Original Message - From: Scott Ritchey [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 8:06 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Just saw this in Popular Machanics re: tires In a prior life, we washed Army vehicles with a fire hose, literally. We had driven those things through streams, shallow bogs, and small ponds maneuvering while maintaining cover. Those much more experienced than me knew exactly where to direct the hose to blast out caked-on mud in the many nooks and crannies. These things were OD flat, so they didn't shine, but they seemed to get pretty clean at the old wash rack. Scott Ritchey ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] WAY OFF TOPIC disallowed Re: my $50 lombard is now upgraded
Sorry, the topic police have declared this to be way off topic and as such you are going to cuba to spend time in a government facility. The war on off topic posts continues and we will win. - Original Message - From: Gary Hurst [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Banned List [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Mercedes Discussion List Mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 8:24 AM Subject: [MBZ] my $50 lombard is now upgraded 256 meg ram, os 10.4.10, firewire. brilliant cosmetic condition. screen is like new. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Just saw this in Popular Machanics re: tires
Yeah, if you know it to be 100% clean but if it is anything like mine then it is full of crap just waiting to blow out onto that freshly washed duco. That and blowing dust off the ground onto the freshly washed car. Like I said pure genius. On the rare occasion that my cars get a clean I use a chamois to get rid of the excess water. Seeing I only wash the cars every three months or so it is not a big deal. - Original Message - From: Allan Streib [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 10:54 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Just saw this in Popular Machanics re: tires Actually, drying a car with a leafblower does not sound like a bad idea to me. Other than the noise annoying the neighbors. Allan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT? - tank-on-empty
Why is this OT? Talking about the Benz low fuel warning system is not OT, is it? I am sure that a lot of the readers sleep a lot better now that they know their warning light is not the only one that flickers. - Original Message - From: OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 12:00 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - tank-on-empty That's my take on it also --- On 7/17/07, Hendrik Riessen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've got a great idea, I'll keep driving my Benz till it runs out of fuel ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Trans resurrection
tools? You mean the lap top with the fancy software which will tell the tech to replace the gearbox with a new one. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 1:48 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Trans resurrection Well, how about if a trained MB tech came over with his tools while you lounged nearby, sipping a forty. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] James May on the 123
I have had no problem aligning glove box lids on 123's, it is a matter of understanding the design. I found two small screwdrivers and a larger one work wonders for those weird nuts. - Original Message - From: Rich Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, July 16, 2007 1:08 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] James May on the 123 The glovebox lid, for example, would not yield even to Jeremy Clarkson and his Cotswolds Screwdriver*; it would come off only by reversing the process by which it was attached in the first place. In isolation, it seems like an unnecessarily complex one, but time has proved it to be unbelievably fit for purpose Is he talking about the same glove box lid as my TD has? Huh? That will not stay aligned, the light tends to come on randomly, the latch barely engages... and this after multiple efforts at fixing it. Oh, and those screws with the slots separated by non-slots. --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Just saw this in Popular Machanics re: tires
Just about every workshop (including MB) uses high pressure cleaners to clean the cars prior to working on them. However any damage they do will be passed onto the customer. Ahhh sorry sir, your routine maintenance service has unfortunatley turned into a very expensive exercise Another reason to do your own work. - Original Message - From: Alex Chamberlain [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2007 9:13 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Just saw this in Popular Machanics re: tires On 7/15/07, Walt Lasher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So if you insist on using your pressure washer to clean your wheels and tires, be careful not to get too close, especially if the nozzle of the pressure washer is set to a narrow angle. Better yet, don't use a pressure washer anywhere near a car at all! They will force water through seals into the interior, cause mysterious electrical gremlins under the hood, and strip the newer, less-durable environmentally safe exterior paints right off. Alex Chamberlain ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Old benz vs old Chev
It wasn't until the mid 90's that Ford in Oz had independant rear suspesion. GM had it a bit earlier but the early independant set ups used to chew tyres at an alarming rate unless upgraded with redesigned components. No wonder they can't sell their cars, the average car buyer in Oz is getting more sophisticated and blind brand loyalty is starting to fade. - Original Message - From: Tom Hargrave [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, July 16, 2007 11:58 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Old benz vs old Chev At least the system translated to an independently sprung rear end - American iron from the same period ran a straight axle across the back. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Ice Road Truckers
Well you can always switch channels to something more stimulating like bikini girls jelly wrestling or the good old spitting into a spitoon contest. What about a nice food eating contest, I know I have a great idea, how about we get some large white people to see how many starving african kids they can eat in an hour or so. - Original Message - From: Allan Streib [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, July 16, 2007 12:16 PM Subject: [MBZ] OT: Ice Road Truckers OK, the first episode was kinda intersting, but how many shows can you make about semi trucks driving on ice? I'm already bored. -- 1983 300D 1966 230 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] w123 wagon at pick-a-part in Olympia WA
The taillights and reversing lights are always worth grabbing. - Original Message - From: Zach [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Saturday, July 14, 2007 9:58 AM Subject: [MBZ] w123 wagon at pick-a-part in Olympia WA There is a W123 300TD at the pick a part near the airport in Olympia WA, motor and tranny are gone but the hydraulic struts, rear calipers, and some other wagon-specific bits are still there. FYI. -Zach ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Anybody watch Mythbusters? Just tested WVO in SD
Yes but are they really knowledable or just a couple of actors playing the part? It's one thing to read a script but quite another to know something about what goes on under the bonnet of a car. Sort of like when the nasty aliens actually invade earth, are Bruce Willis, Arnie, Mel Gibson and Co going to get together and beat then back? - Original Message - From: Zoltan Finks [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: mercedes@okiebenz.com; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2007 3:38 PM Subject: [MBZ] Anybody watch Mythbusters? Just tested WVO in SD Also, it's amazing to me that sometimes automotive knowledge can be so separate from other engineering knowledge. These are two very knowledgeable guys in lots of different areas of engineering, but neither of them could find the fuel line on a couple of different cars. Brian ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] REALLY nice 220D
Yeah, be a bit freaky if you are used to celcius. - Original Message - From: Zoltan Finks [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2007 5:43 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] REALLY nice 220D Funny how this older model has english readings, yet newer models have metric readings (temp and oil pressure). Brian ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] REALLY nice 220D
You no likey blue interior? How about his? More to your taste? WARNING---PURISTS DO NOT LOOK---WARNING--- MAY PAY TO COVER KEYBOARD WITH A PROTECTIVE PLASTIC COVER http://cgi.ebay.com.au/MERCEDES-300SEL_W0QQitemZ220129370993QQihZ012QQcategoryZ135586QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem Be pretty cool dropping the kids off at school in that with the boom box at full blast. - Original Message - From: Zoltan Finks [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2007 5:43 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] REALLY nice 220D Oh how I want this auto. The only thing I don't like about it is the blue MB tex. Just don't like MB tex in blue. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Anybody watch Mythbusters? Just tested WVO in SD
Yeah but we are not talking about rebuilding a MB gearbox, just finding the fuel pipe. If you have a basic understanding of how a car gets it's fuel you should be able to work out which is the feed pipe and which is the return line. Anyway they seem like nice fellas, if they had the big ego thing happening they would have edited out the part about them standing there looking for a fuel line. - Original Message - From: John Robbins [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2007 10:32 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Anybody watch Mythbusters? Just tested WVO in SD Hendrik Riessen wrote: Yes but are they really knowledable or just a couple of actors playing the part? You can only be an expert at so many things... and they do build and design lots of stuff on their own. They also weren't actors in their work before Mythbusters... ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Anybody watch Mythbusters? Just tested WVO in SD
So Maccas is now your fuel station as well:) I'll have a couple of big macs and 10 gallons of oil, thanks. - Original Message - From: dave walton [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2007 10:55 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Anybody watch Mythbusters? Just tested WVO in SD I've been running 100% WVO in my 87SDL since April with no mods whatsoever to the car. There is a bit of hesitation when you accelerate until it gets warmed up. More so on cold mornings. -Dave Walton ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W123 Beater Review
Corridor Bloody luxury, we used to live in a shoebox in the middle of the road. I'd give me right leg to be able to live in a corridor. - Original Message - From: Jeff Zedic [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2007 8:26 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] W123 Beater Review On 12/07/07, Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ok boys, 3 drivers, NO garage OR flat concrete to work on, 5 123's (3 D, CD, TD) , 300SDL, and the BioBeast. We used to DREAM of living in a corridor! Jeff Zedic ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Another reason why alcohol and using the internet don't mix
http://www.autotrader.com.au/iteminfo/adnumber_6523907_loc_locRZSQregtAVSCdistRZSQAVSCstateRZSQ9AVSCregRZSQ_off_9_sect_Automotive_sort_otRZSQ0BJDZfdRZSQSellingPrice_sqt_0_srchby_mmbsRZSQMakeAVSCsrchbyRZSQmkmdlAVSCmkdlsRZSQMercedes-BenzMRFX420SEMRFX420SELMRFX500SL_stpg_1_subs_Used+Cars_ After a dozen stubbies they all look the same. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] '89 560SEL
Nothing more expensive than a cheap Merc. Check for rust, auto tranny operation and how the engine starts cold. A new seat base and window winder are small fry in the scheme of things. The air con could be just a couple of O rings or more expesnive than that but no way of telling until the system has some dye in it. For 2.2k you can't expect too much when you are buying a car that was a lot of money to buy new. Although if you do end up buying this car, check for drugs throughout it. Apparently these machines are favoured by middle level drug dealers due to the status and performance. You do hear urban legends about people buying used top end luxury cars and finding stuff like drugs, money and/or guns hidden within them. - Original Message - From: BillR [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2007 11:11 PM Subject: [MBZ] '89 560SEL Hi - I'm still looking for a reasonably cheap vehicle for my daughter to drive while awaiting the ability to buy Donald's 300SEL. A guy a few miles South of me has a 1989 560SEL with 200,080 miles and 'needs some Freon'. I know these can be expensive to get into decent shape if not cared for properly. What should I look for should I go check this one out? He says that one of the widows needs 'some gear thing', and is asking $2,200. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Daimler' $37 billion blunder.
Yeah well back then there was a frenzy of mergers with the thinking being that volume and market share is more important than quality. As I don't have shares in Daimler I couldn't give a rats. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2007 12:20 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Daimler' $37 billion blunder. In the August issue of Car Driver, Csaba (Chubba) Csere, provides interesting reading on how much it cost Daimler to own Chrysler for 7 years. Having ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] '89 560SEL
The problem is if the law finds it first. - Original Message - From: Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2007 1:02 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] '89 560SEL finding stuff like drugs, money and/or guns hidden within them. Lawyers, guns, and money? Hey, if _I_ found guns and/or money hidden inside then lucky for me. (I've no use for either of the other two commodities.) -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] CIS rebuild kit
What excactly are you after? Rebuild the distributor? If you know which cylinder is bad then you can swap injectors with another cylinder to see if it is the injector. - Original Message - From: Trampas [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, July 09, 2007 9:37 AM Subject: [MBZ] CIS rebuild kit Does anyone know if you can buy a rebuild kit for a CIS unit? I have narrowed down the slight miss at idle on my 560SEL to a cylinder not getting fuel at idle. Trampas ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
